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God the new squall looks terrible.
everyone looks awful in the remaster
left: soul
right: soulless
It genuinely looks like their faces should be swapped.
Honestly pretty funny that they referenced it.
Why didn't they just use the KH model
He looks like that girl from kingdom hearts
That's Leon.
Kingdom Hearts tier bland face
why the baby face?
B-but Yuffie said
>Remaster
>Everything looks even less detailed from a distance
>updated models
>but the exact same low res backgrounds from the original game
This is more like a model swap than a remaster of any kind
>ruined tidus
>ruined squall
>ruined tifa
>ruined cloud
>ruined snow
>ruined jecht
why can't Team Ninja do anything right
Kek
Hope they don't ruin Zell.
Still his best look
>no fur
it's shit
Still mad how he wasn't in KH3
>another babyface
what the fuck
>"Mom said it's my turn to play"
Tell that to your momma
I'm glad larxene is getting more use
I'd rather just replay the original thanks
I fucking wish
Me: based
You: gay
His face was totally fucked in the original, too.
Go back and watch the cinematics again.
he looked like a cheeky cunt
now he just looks like a baby
I like the part where Squall screams "YOU FUCKED UP MY FACE" and shoots Seifer a couple of times
Still no date for switch?
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
Japanese character design 101.
Lol man...Rinoa looks like a girl without any ass or any legs, she looks worse than tifa in remake
>Irvine with a gunblade
>WOW SUCH SQUALL
Compare the two exact same shots then pass judgement.
He also looked like a fucking retard when he wasn't smiling at the camera.
Rinoa was always plain and ugly. Not to mention horrible personality.
He is certainly not as handsome as in the original, but I swear all the people that are unironically claiming he looks like a girl, must be gays in denial or straight up gays. He still doesn't look like a girl he just looks more lame.
it's almost like his design is the best thing about him
>long hair
Fag
I really hope there's a way to change back to the original graphics, since dotEmu's doing this.
he's more attractive than you'll ever be fatty
It looks like they just shoop'd the long hair on.
could be worse,could've been short hair and beard
No, it's a remaster, not a remake.
Looks horrible, fuck Dissidia for ruining Squall, he was supposed to be masculine not some asian K-Pop faggot.
That's not much better. In fact, it's a lot worse.
Squall acts like a bitch, so it's only natural to give him girly face. I am fine with that.
Squall doesn't act like a bitch. He complains but gets shit done
he is always Asian kpop
Me: doing your mom
You: playing your xbox in the room next to us trying not to hear the loud moans of your mom
Nah, he's neither. He's supposed to have bitch boy vibes, obviously inspired by River Phoenix. His model looks more like Keanu Reeves though.
Go watch any of the original FMVs you retard.
you look terrible
That's a mod, not the hd remake
I know.
final fantasy has the worst character designs. Why does he need three little belts on his foreharm?
he was always kpop asian
he looks nothing like river Phoenix
they said noctis was based on kurt Cobain too, and yet timeskip noct looks like john wick
Amazing.
It's fantasy
It's designed to look cool
Final Fantasy character clothing wasn't made for real world usefulness
>It's designed to look cool
then why does it look stupid and gay
Because Nomura is a hack with a leather/belt fetish
Because Nomura was only capable of design for like 3 years. And KH is none of those years.
because you suck dick
Really? Looks like a typical final fantasy/jrpg character
Same soulless look the Japanese are great at
Yeah, the west is so much better
Is your example really a game that was completely rejected and created by a bunch of inexperienced people?
I’m not talking about incompetence, I’m talking about a generic look
Mass Effect is a triple AAA game series made by a AAA dev, this is western standard
Mass Effect is an AAA game made by an AAA inexperienced dev team.
His point still applies, though: Japanese JRPGs have this stereotypical "characters must look like clowns" design. There are exceptions (Dark Souls, Final Fantasy Tactics, Persona even), but the rule is there.
You could remove the absolutely unnecessary belts on his pants and arm, as well as the smaller straps on the side of his trousers and the design would be much better.
To add to this, since I always forget to finish my posts: I think good character design is when you have enough elements to make your character unique and recognizable. Squall would still be recognizable without all those shitty belts. Same with Lulu: from the waist up anyone can recognize her and her clothing MAKES sense. So why add those shitty belts on the bottom? They are not needed. Remove the belts on her arm and modify the lower part of her dress so that it shows some leg, but get rid of the shitty belts. There you go, Lulu is fixed.
I hate you.
And I really hate you.
That's what jap girls wanted at that time (and still do I guess)
You know remember the dude who got surgery to look like Squall.
Remember the dude that was obsessed with FFVIII and killed his parents with a katana.
Consider me interested
I remember a thread where a guy had a Squall wig
Dude was sephiroth fanboy
Now this is the definition of soul vs soulless.
>reminder that fanboys wanted this kind of horrible remaster for FF7R instead of what we got
I don't know about you guys, but Selphie appeared in my dreams yesterday and said I could join them in Balamb garden. I love this game so much so I am going to do it today, wish me luck.
the remaster looks pretty good but they still didn't do his hair right, not sure if that's how Nomura wants him to look now or just nobody noticed
hope the voice acting thing is true tho, that'd be pretty cool
What are you talking about? He looks cute
To protect his arm
Just got VIII for my PS1 enjoy the SOULLESS remaster cucks
>Still mad how he wasn't in KH3
that perfectly sums up KH3
River Phoenix?
I'm pretty sure it's limited to spanish news but he was like our Columbine in that regard, was called the "Catana [sic] Assassin", killed both parents and her 9 year old sister because he was dissatisfied with his family and tried to run away to Barcelona to meet up with a girl he chatted with (this is late 99 mind you) but was caught in the process and forced to stay in home. After killing them, he tried to go to Barcelona again, but was caught at the train station.
His parents had bought him the katana because he liked FFVIII so much, apparently. Lots of sensacionalism.around it, he apparently has since then been reinserted in society, has family and kids, found God, etc.
Headline says: "Murcia's parricide killed like his virtual hero did"
Didn't know River Phoenix was alive by '99.
Is Zell 12 in this remaster?
Filthy gaijin this is peak Nippon we're talking here.
That's the joke, user. And you ruined it. Squall was modeled after him.
I'm very sorry.
Hah!
Haha. Chinese bootleg face.
What the hell are you guys fuckin talking about? Never in my life have I ever heard anyone ever complain about character designs other than here. And well all know most anons are fucking retarded. So I’m just saying you guys are dumb.
The new models are actually done by the same guy that made the original models, also the artstyle just looks like dissidia psp
>Remastered Selphie
Can't fuckin wait
Wasnt he Mickey knight
youtube.com
>Voiced by the most bland VA
>Quistis voiced by the most delicious VA
KEK
Rinoa has always been the blandest FF chick in my eyes.
so what now. is this a remaster or just shitposting?
The FF8 remaster was announced at around E3 time.
to limit his power, when he takes them off you know he's fighting for real
oh wow. how did I miss that. thanks
So it's a low budget remake, not a remaster?
Source?
There are already images of it.
It's a model swap
only things remastered are the models and (some) textures
Reverse-engineered code + new models by the original modeler
>Rinoa has always been the blandest FF chick in my eyes.
same
but then Luna happened and Rinoa got dethroned as the most bland FF game and worst love interest in a FF game
Didn't they actually find the code?
Luna gets a pass from me because she's a blonde but yeah, she wasn't exactly a great character either.
>dress is white instead of eggshell
>lining is dirfferent
>no shadowing on the back
>whole model looks bland whereas the original had lots of value differences
>squall's outfit has 10x less wrinkes and therefore less values as well
>lining is missing th gap
Thanks I hate it.
I never used the meme of soul/soulless before, but the new models look really bleak and too plastic.
>dress is white instead of eggshell
Even in those early days of the World Wide Web, finding decent Rinoa doujins was an exercise in disappointment and impotence. No good artist ever picked her as a theme for porn and for good reason. Granted, in general FF8 has some of the lamest doujins of the FFs.
>Square Enix decided to refine the characters when the direct port was nearing completion, resulting in a major schedule change. However, with the efforts of battle programmer Hiroshi Harada, character modeler Tomohiro Kayano, and character designer Tetsuya Nomura, all of whom are members of the development team of the original Final Fantasy VIII, the RPG was revived, and is now being prepared to roll out within the year.
digitaltrends.com
Because tripp pants exist.
Thanks. I really really hope they didn't just scrap what they had done and make a swapping thing with the original models.
NEVER ever buy a "remaster" put out by Squenix!
Looks like a 10 year old boy.
The FFX ones look even worse in motion. It's like they heard people constantly calling Tidus a baby face and decided to take it literally
Bought it anyway lol. Currently playing through X-2 and it's more fun than X
because you're an american chad
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>His face was totally fucked in the original, too.
>Go back and watch the cinematics again.
Are you retarded?
He looks totally okay in the original.
Maybe you're a paid squenix shill?
You're not the only one bro, I prefer that pixelated mess on the left aswell. Especially because I can't even tell if he's supposed to have only 1 eye or not.
Hair looks disgusting.
Dragon Quest IV-VI, Romancing SaGa 2, FFXII and Last Remnant are mild to great. Not all remasters they do are bad.
I forgot about this one. Thanks for reminding me
here's my 2 second paint fix
tha't's what they did, that's why it looks shit
It looks like he should show up in XV, not VIII
The model doesn't even remotely look like the KH model what are you on about?
Same shit happened to FF9, they supposedly lost the original backgrounds, so instead of remaking every background they just rip the shitty low res ones. Thanks squenix.
but wasnt the ff9 rerelease originally for android? low res backgrounds arent really noticeable on that platform.
This can' be fucking real.
The lightning is better in the released version, but unfortunately the model looks exactly like that
Looks fine, just doesn't really look like Squall.
>Still no release date
>those backgrounds
I think I'm sticking to playing the original on an emulator, tyvm
Will be revealed or released in TGS, surely. If not, the next Direct is the safest bet.
Nomura, ladies and gentlemen.
Yuna is far from the worst example you could have picked.
That's all I needed to see to avoid the remaster
wait, they made the background blurrier?
Gigapixeled 2x (SN None RB High), then in Photoshop logo erased, cropped, saved with quality @ 12.
Adding voices would automatically ruin the game, btw.
I think it's one of the best. With Tidus, it's pretty clear they botched him; with Yuna, it's just that they didn't like how "regular" she looked in the original game and decided to exaggerate her features until she's pretty much unrecognizable (and generic).
I think everyone has noticed. He looks nothing like VIII Squall, it's pure Dissidia Squall.
CRYSTAL CHRONICLES WHEN
CHRONICLE CRYSTALS WHEN
The whole can't figure out how to fit FF characters in was complete bullshit. Squall doing the hallow bastion computer shit in KH3 makes way more plot sense then zexiqutotlionfaglion. Nomura just wanted to push his gay OCs.
having zero (0) nostalgia for FFX I do not see the problem
I can't wait t play the remaster of FF VIII because at least now you'll be able to see the character models properly and the battles will look more updated with better animation. I don't understand how anyone enjoyed FF VIII when the character models looked like jumbled up pixels and the battles were so low res and boring visually.
Literally retarded if you think the old one looks better. Take off the rose colored glasses, you stupid hipster faggots. I bet you'll say that the polygon playdoh garbage that was FF VII is better than the remake of FF VII coming out next year.
Is there a PC mod out that fixes this though? I feel like PC always gets these kinds of fixes.
>Rikku at the back
clear improvement
Listen up, if this hair looking like Yuna thing was a Freudian slip of some sort, or an unconscious design decision when making this remaster, there's a chance that Yuna's actual hair is being worked on for something. Ya get what I'm saying? X-3 Cuntfoormd
>the battles will look more updated with better animation
No, they won't. The animations of FFVIII are fine, there's no reason to change them, and there's no proof of them changing them. Your point about FFVII is pretty null too.
>Babyface syndrome
They made Tidus look like a 10 year old.
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What's it like being a hipster? Does it make you feel superior to everyone else?
Well, the battle system in VIII was trash to begin with. Draw is a garbage mechanic, but at least the game will look 10x better visually so that's a big plus to me.
Left PS2, right PS4
Why did they outsource their Final Fantasy remasters yet did the Kingdom Hearts ones in-house?
for some reason the uniform is much more detailed in the original version
>muh draw muuuhh draaaaw
Amerilard brainlet detected. Learn 2 play.
Least they made her look 22 years old... barely
>FFVIII
>Drawing magic
Why do so many people play this game as a complete brainlet.
Nice deflection! It doesn't look that much better either. It looks like a PS1 game with some Dissidia PSP models swapped in.
I think it's because by DDD they were still working and familiar with the KH engine.
god, that remix of the ff8 battle and boss music is absolutely atrocious
pass on this cringe shit
>HURR SOULLESS SOULLESS XDDD
>the battle system in 8 is too difficult for me
See: and:
look at her legs, from stikk to thicc
anorexic Rinoa is clearly better.
you faggots will complain about anything it looks great.
Shill spotted.
Christ, why didn't they just directly port the original into HD? It couldn't be that hard.
Just like his father, what's your point?
The rest look great (Rinoa is a bit too dollified but whatever). Squall looks outright like a different dude.
On your side but honest to god total shit advice. Get Quistis and Zell card beginning of the game, get your refine skills as soon as possible, level as little as possible and get enc-none when you can. Junction so GF has HP-J and Str-J. Curagas (from tent) to your HP Don't heal, characters are in constant yellow hp, bosses can't do shit because if you didn't level they're worth nothing. Let loose with limit breaks. Profit.
it's pretty baffling how character models from some PS2 era games (like FFX or Silent Hill 2 or 3) still hold up to this day
hell, they even look better than the ones in a couple of AAA games today
>Turning Squall in to generic anime protag
>Soul
It's literally like they wanted to make him look more boring.
lol i have no stake in this, i've never even played ff8 maybe it doesn't LOOK exactly like the original squall, but it certainly doesn't look "bad" by any stretch
Unironically soulless.
Squall is supposed to be an introvert who's been thrust into leadership. He hides his massive insecurities behind a stone cold facade. His original model gets that across far better than the remaster. The remaster is basically the Dissidia pretty boy anime version, he could be any random JRPG protagonist.
Tifa sure was a late bloomer
you act as if they look SO different.
Why can't you faggots stop being miserable for a second?
Who fucking cares if the character looks a little bit different. the game is exactly the same.
This.
I thought Squall was already very gay back then, now he looks like the member of one of those Korean gay boys band.
why are his cheeks so fucked? they changed his Pheontype completely
Are you retarded? It's the same dude, but a better model.
>His original model gets that across far better than the remaster
he looks more expressive in the remaster dummy
In the English dub she sounds a lot older than 22 and that makes her seem older, so it's not just that she looks older than 22.
In the original Jap dub she sounds much more like 22: youtu.be
That being said, the Jap voice actress was probably a lot older than 22.
Changes the feel of the whole game.
They do.
Would it really kill them to improve the chocobo controls though, or at least have added a mid-race reset button
Read the post properly, dunce
No it's not, the hair, expression, and facial shape are significantly different.
Proof?
>intentionally positioning the character so that the face looks as bad as possible
The face physiognomy is pretty much different.
>character is literally looking straight at the camera
>No it's not, the hair, expression, and facial shape are significantly different.
Yeah, he actually has a face in this and not a jumbled mess of pixels.
Whatever.
>Proof?
Right: Looks like he doesn't want to be there
Left: I don't even know what face he's trying to make.
Seifer's sloppy seconds. :)
They got the best one right though.
LOOK HOW DEY MASSACRED MY BOY
>stereotypical "characters must look like clowns" design. There are exceptions (Dark Souls, Final Fantasy Tactics, Persona even)
>Persona
>Dark Souls of all things
Lol im laughing by the way
I think what's happening for a lot of these remakes is the vague-ness of the original leaves faces up to interpretation. Even moreso, we imagine the smiling, frowning--the perfect face for every occasion. With FF8, I'm assuming all they did was slap a high resolution skin on the original model, so naturally the static face is going to look uncanny it mimes the scene. With FFX, although the graphics aren't nearly as old FF8's are, even that slight gap in graphics quality is enough to have people argue about the face.
And you realize that's all people are really arguing about. People all have their own opinion of what someone should look like.
I can't stop but laugh imagine him rushing to the toilet to take a shit and while dealing with all those belts
You think you're being reasonable but you're actually making sweeping generalizations and ignoring the actual nuances of the designs. If you think FFX and FFXHD Teedus are the same thing but one is just higher res, you're a massive retard.
Be honest. If right side was the original, you would prefer it.
Lol
So what you're saying is that it's okay to ruin the design because at least it's a higher resolution.
Well duh, if left was the "remaster" I would complain about a massive downgrade.
>undo the singular belt holding up his pants
>take a shit like everyone else
I don't get it
Holy shit that squall looks bad
A jumble of pixels isn't exactly a design
>I think what's happening for a lot of these remakes is the vague-ness of the original leaves faces up to interpretation. Even moreso, we imagine the smiling, frowning--the perfect face for every occasion. With FF8, I'm assuming all they did was slap a high resolution skin on the original model, so naturally the static face is going to look uncanny it mimes the scene.
Nah. Other characters in the same remaster are done well, even if a bit dolled (cowboy guy who I can't remember the name, Quistis, Zell, even Rinoa have just the right ammount of changes that have a resemblance with the original model). With Squall they just tossed the original concept of his face in the gutter and used the later designs by Nomura in Dissidia FF.
With FFX, they just washed up every single character while fucking up the lightning, which is almost half of what made the cutscenes viable. Reverse engineering without any positive attention to detail.
I forgot how much of a thot rinoa was. Time to replay it I guess.
Even the meme screenshot in the OP is a false representation of the original. Whoever took that screenshot didnt just take a screenshot at random, he obviously made an effort to make it look as bad as possible. Pic related is what his face looks like most of the time.
Quistis fans on suicide watch
:( F
Technically Squall is also Nomura's gay OC.
We all grew up together ha ha
We forgot about it
We are all tragic anime orphans ha ha ha
>Even the meme screenshot in the OP is a false representation of the original.
No way! Also, with the texture warping the PS1 usually had, there's quite a possibility that that's the way it looked.
You're also using an image with is rendered at a much larger res than what the PS1 could do.
>jumble of pixels
You know that FF8 was released also on PC right?
You could clearly see his face, also the new model has a round face and far more girly, it's very different from the original character design concept and official artwork.
You realize that's nowhere near PSX native res right?
He doesn't look like the guy in the CGs.
screnshotted off a YT video, brainlet.
ffs it was also released on PC.
Holy shit everyone on this board is a retarded contrarian bitter manchild, go play the original game you dumb fuck
Considering it was back in the day when PC ports weren't done well I wouldn't really care about it.
The existence of the PC version doesn't mean the screenshot is invalid. It just means that it's from a different version. What it does invalidate is the claim that the original didn't look that bad. It did on PSX.
Which video? Is it from an emulator that fixes the texture warping on PS1, which has been a thing for a few years? No need, or reason, to call me a brainlet. The models also look crisper than what they should, which leads to Rinoa's hair looking a bit off on the edges.
I also dislike that Rinoa now has uniform bangs instead of three separate ones the original design had; and her face is essentially Koei Tecmo's design instead of the very "normal" original. Everyone else is decent except those two.
He looks like a gender swapped squall desu.
Let's not pretend that regular gameplay Squall looked anywhere near cutscene/character design Squall either.
ree dont say thing i dont agree with
God those forearms
Yeah that's fair. Games back then were still more representational though, and we knew that gameplay model was supposed to represent the FMV design.
Could someone with a Twitter contact dotEmu about, since S-E said that the game looked pretty much the same before giving it a facelift, the possibility of there being a way or a switch between new graphics and the classic models, like they did with Wonder Boy?
Yuna looks weird in both
oh no no no no look at that background
This is really the best way to show how hard they fucked X's remaster. I wonder if X-2 fared any better.
He just looks like Lightning.
>left
SOUUUULLLLLLLL
>right
Soulless.
>Soul v Souless
Not really (Paine looks better than most other characters in FFX, but for the sake of consistency the fucked up Yuna is still there, no lightning effects either). It's more playable since it doesn't rely as much on those things anyway.
nu-Squall look like some generic anime host.
SOUL - SOULLESS
SOUL SOULLESS LMAOOOO SOUL GOOD NEW BAD OLD GOOD
I liked the crusty face.
Opinion: Rinoa is fucking ugly
I don't understand.
Is that a joke?
The model looks good, actually. Do you think he's ugly?
The arm belt at the very least looks like it has the purpose of holding the dress up, without it I can see it falling down. I also like how it pulls in the clothing to allow that weird shape the fabric takes as it flows down the arm. No argument on the lower ones though.
ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM
It looks like a generic anime character made by some chink
>he apparently has since then been reinserted in society, has family and kids, found God, etc.
What in the fuck.
But he's handsome isn't he?
What's the joke?
OMIGAWD THEY REFERENCED THE MEME
Is that because he looks like a girl?
on the inside and out
that's bone
He served his time and then received quite a bit of psychiatric treatment.
Did Rinoa have sex with seifer?
FF13 remaster when?
They better not ask $50 for this
If this we’re a fan mod you contrarian faggots would be jizzing all over it
Like all those fanmods that are universally considered abominable? This is slightly better and mostly an improvement, all right, but Squall doesn't look very good.
I see your point but keep in mind they are gonna charge full price for this and mods are usually free
Am I the only one who always thought that Squal and Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky look similar?
8 was my first FF and i still love it but fuck playing it again if the remaster has the retarded level scaling that punishes you for being higher level
Lol where? The only place they haven't looked for is Fukushima.
whatever
Because you're not a ten year old (I assume)
Left: Soul
Right: Souless
God damn you people are even more annoying than the people who would exclaim kino at everything they liked a year back or so
They lost the source code retard.
which activities would you like to see again?
He looks better, but he's still way off model.
soul
soulless
Lulu's belt dress existed to show off THE POWER OF THE PS2. Turns out the PS2 couldn't actually render it.
Oops.
It was also Nomura trying to fuck with the modellers to see if they could actually do the belts appropriately or not. The fucking tyrant.
Has he ever -not- looked like a bitch? He makes Cloud and Tidus look like Cro Magnon men.
>characters are all in high school
>"wow why do they look so young"
you forgot
>ruined Samus
Why the fuck is the background in the remastered so blurry
Pretty zoomed in image + bilinear filter applied to every background. Same happens with FF7 and FF9. Not a bit deal.
>ughhh why doesn't a JRPG character look like the perfect masculine manly man like myself
It's why I don't trust the semencerebrums who think that their Tifa model shows more respect to the original design, when literally every other character proves that they don't care at all.