Do shills actually exist on Yea Forums?

Do shills actually exist on Yea Forums?

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Of course they do. Yea Forums is a social platform like any other.

source: my ass that works in the game industry

Yes, I'm a PR representative at Nintendo. There are dozens of us here actually

As in, paid? Unlikely. On leddit, though? Definitely.
As in free unpaid volunteers? I always shill for underrated gems or prejudiced games.

I'm almost certain there are some Ubisoft shills around on Yea Forums. The frequency in which threads are made as a new Ubisoft title is weeks away from releasing is unusually large from the amount of threads, posts & attention Ubisoft games generally gather on Yea Forums, and Yea Forums doesn't feel the need to talk about ALL modern releases, so it's perfectly plausible that Yea Forums wouldn't bat an eye at a new Ubisoft game.

Yes, also they do it for free.

Ubisoft.
The amount of pre-E3 "leaks" about the new Watch Dogs was insane, and not a single person has spoken about that game since it was revealed. Plus that fucking Assassin's Creed sticky.

Remember Borderlands? Of course they exist. It's just not as widespread as people think.

That does explain all the shitty nintendies threads.

t. so(y)ny

Just like jannies, they do it for free. Mostly with waifushit games

Absolutely. There are no doubt paid shills, and of course, unpaid "shills" that just want to get their favorite games more exposure so they can have more discussion about it eventually. Generally it's easy to spot which is which.

The recent marvel game had a ton of shills a few days before and into it's release. They then disappeared instantaneously.

google lenoncinium

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Retarded faggots can't tell the difference between paid shills and fanboys

Did you not see the Black Ops 4 shill campaigns? 10 or so threads every day each with the same picture and 3 or 4 catch phrases.

Yes. That one guy that used to spam that shitty wojak that is holding the newest Star Wars game is definitive proof, since EA also posted wojak on their twitter too. Its blatantly obvious at this point.

What the fuck are those 'recent clients'?

not a real site

My favourite one is where they don't promote their own game, but shit on the competition. I'm still buying Cyberpunk 2077 and no amount of shitposting can change that.

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while you're at it google rantic as well

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Everything exist in Yea Forums. It’s literally a brainwashing website. Unless you wear your tin foil hats.

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well there's only like 15 mentions in all of the archives so i don't think they're doing a very good job

That's the wrong question, user. What you should be asking is "Do counter-shills exist?" and the answer is "Yes."
There are people on this board right now being paid by big name companies to shit on anything that tries to go against the current marketable trend or status quo. You see, there's much more money in a market if it's trends stay stable, so anything that steps outside that median (ie. By being good, innovative, or just all around different) risks changing popular opinion and hurting someone's bottom line.
Don't fall for their tricks.

I think it's mostly people that want people to talk and share stuff about a thing they like or really hate to feel like they're part of something and to validate their opinion rather than actual advertising. Problem is, they don't realize it's advertising a game/system no matter if it's positive or negative and they're basically doing it for free.
Though sometimes there are actual shills and you notice them immediately because they're so bad at hiding the fact, especially if it's a new game.

you tell me

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Yes, but more often than not it's just some autist doing it for free.

whoops wrong board

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Yea Forums turned me into a tranny

Game Freak DEFINITELY has shills on Yea Forums, you see people defending SwSh left and right.

>Ironic Shitposters who pretend to shill
>Actual shills who join in on shilling
>Idiots who find themselves in good company and do it for free as a result
Pick one of three, they all lead into the others all the same.

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Mortal Kombat shills were insufferable

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Thanks for confirming snoyfags have paid shills on Yea Forums

That's literally not shills then, just fans. You have to be paid to do it to be a shill.

It's basically confirmed that there are shills here due to a lot of shit going on and people so delusional they seemingly defend actually retarded things.
HOWEVER
I feel like they're less common than most people assume them to be. Assume stupidity before malicious intent.

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I have been on /vp/ for a while, mostly lurking, and I don't think they're actual paid shills, just delusional autistic fanboys that feel personally attacked when someone points out bad things about Pokémon in general.

Yeah.
But I think that every single console warrior is doing it FOR FREE.

shills are synonymous with fanboys now

You people might have forgotten but when Borderlands was about to come out the shills were out in fucking force, it got to a point where Yea Forums was full of BL shill threads at any given hour and i do believe it was Randy Pitchford the one leading the charge.

Now you may be thinking "that cant be real", but just look at Randy's antics.

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When my gane is finished you know im shill posting

It's currently happening right now, there are threads popping up about a new Need for Speed game, out of nowhere. Maybe a decade ago those threads would have been sincere but NFS is now a shitty franchise churned out by people who have no joy or love for the series.

yeah

Yep, been several proven incidents over the years (Notably the Tomb Rider one back when we called it Viral Marketing), both professional and DOES IT FOR FREE fags. This should not come as a surprise since Yea Forums doesn't exactly have any kind of barrier of entry or user system so shitting out a shill thread out every few hours and bumping is fairly easy on their end and actual shills use several sites at once, it isn't like they only do it on Yea Forums and that is it for what they need to do for the pay.

Me too.

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Those are the obvious ones.

No, Yea Forums just really likes a Harry Potter Kim Kardashian mobage cloneOF COURSE SHILLS EXIST.

Can't even tell if the controversy "worked", because even after the game launched there was controversy over too many black people

It got the word out about the game.

>Be me
>See the same shill posting blant viral marketing
>Spam Nigger and Cunny till they become saturated with Loli and Waifu posting.
>Mod kills thread
Shit isn;t even that hard to do

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No, because if it gets public you advertise on a website/board, that uses "faggot" and "niggers" every 10 seconds, you can bury your game.

That's the case for most shills. The point of shilling is to steer the people who're close to your beliefs towards a direction that suits you by giving them well-thought "tools" that they can effortlessly copypaste as arguments or cultural memetics, that they probably wouldn't otherwise develop on their own. This was in fact the case of Trump support on this site - memes that were obviously foreign and too soft for the culture of this site, dead ones at that which died just a year ago and stopped getting reposted, suddenly flooded in again with full adoption rate and everyone magically started spamming them everywhere. It's not that they were interesting or funny that made people start using the dead green frog meme again and not reply to frogposters with "dumb frogposting redditor" as was the custom of that time, it's the fact that there was a latent Trump-supporting group here and all they were waiting for was someone to give them the tools to shit up every board and shill for their new idol with minimal effort, which they did. The same memes were then strategically posted on other sites where supporters were present, like /r/Yea Forums, and at that point you don't even have to shill anymore because they will just do it for free. The exact same thing was also repeated earlier by stormfront who produced all the nazi content that's currently being spammed by /pol/, posted it just a few times here until it gained traction, and no further shilling was needed as the dormant nazi group here now had the tools to shill for it themselves. Think about it, every single argument and "redpill" that /pol/ has ever posted is either a finely-crafted infographic that someone else produced for them, a video of Hitler's speeches spiced up with dramatic music, again produced by someone who knows what they're doing, or simply a meme under the form of editing comics or creating stereotypical caricatures, in the exact same fashion.

Yes, EA, Bioware and Andromeda were infamous for it. Plenty of games also have copy pasted OPs trying to spark discussion.

It's a well known, indisputable and objectively true fact that en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_management companies exist. ORM companies are basically shilling companies. If you notice carefully, many threads that purport to enjoy or seem to use rote and unnatural ways to spark conversation about certain AAA games happen exactly when you'd expect an ORM company to be contracted to shill during that critical period of time where a game's sales are analyzed to see if it's a success or not. For that reason, it is also an objectively true fact that the best reviews and discussions of a game usually come after a few months of release.

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nintendo definitely has shills here. this is why every decision they make, no matter how asinine, is defended incessantly. it's also why the catalog is always flooded with redundant smash threads even though they have a general on /vg/.

Yes, and on all boards.

Yea Forums has cross-site fanboys and publisher shills.
Yea Forums has former browsers who got into the comic/animation industry that shill by defending their circle of animators from criticism.
Yea Forums has studio shills.
/g/ has platform shills.

And all of it got worse when Hiro reformatted the site into 4Cchannel and opened this place to even more advertisers.

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>Assume stupidity before malicious intent
That's what people with malicious intent say.

>Best selling game of AAA company that has its fifth mainline sequel got recognized
Holy shit what a miracle

Absolutely they do

Do you mean fanboys who want to defend corporations or paid marketers? Because both exist on Yea Forums and have been here for years. Yea Forums's "cesspool of the internet" stigma died out over a half-decade ago and advertisers know how much circulated traffic this place gets.

>the natzees are new here guys i swear they came with drumpf!

This is how you spot a newfag.

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Old Yea Forums was liberal. We made fun of Bush.

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We have threads that are word for word "Why aren't you playing her [gacha] game" or "Play her game" reposted dozens of times per week. What the fuck do you think.

archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/swarmfront/end/2014-01-01/

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someone post the anthem shill png trainwreck

Sometimes but not offen

>we
I'm sure only 2% of Yea Forums users were here before 2015

More like old Yea Forums made fun of who ever was alive. Only ones we didn't make fun of are people who treat others like shit

Why wouldn't they? Fun fact! The creator of rick and morty admitted to shitting on his own cartoon on Yea Forums to give it attention

>I can't play this game/I am a noble brand warrior/I hate the series/I'm a bored faggot
>spam threads about the game, pretend to be an open shill/redditor/sjw to turn people off from it
Why do these kids do that?

no, just deranged retards doing it for free

Almost a convincing argument until you notice just how poorly Shareblue did shilling for Clinton and Shareblue was an organization with the full backing of hundreds of thousands of dollars of donations and propaganda specialists. Stormfront had almost no such expertise and wouldn't have suddenly gained that capability in the years immediately preceding 2016, but you're partially right when you said it was a latent Trump-supporting group that created the momentum of the phenomenon you saw. No, what you saw were individuals already skilled at creating online content, latching onto ideals they supported, and simply having fun with it while feeling good about it.

There are some other factors but if you want to understand what happened in 2016 you need to start from there. Unless of course, your post was meant as disinfo. But I feel like it isn't, it's falling into the same rote accusation of association with Nazis to try and discredit what happened and most people who do that aren't smart enough to be doing it so people on the opposing side make the same mistake of making those rote accusations instead of trying to truly understand their enemy.

Old Yea Forums made fun of idiocy. New Yea Forums still does. Newfags don't understand what anonymity does for freedom of expression or freedom of thought. Through a gestalt understanding of current events, Yea Forums has a far better grasp of what is going on and has also retained enough true morality to have escaped the pre-made, pre-authorized thoughts allowed to normies. On a brief tangent, anonymity was a pandoras box for those who maintain the status quo that moot slightly opened. If the internet was fully anonymous, and communication was free and not judged upon your identity but judged by the content of what you said, the world would be such a free and fair place. As it is, the internet is no longer the free frontier it once was and is now for most people a chain upon their necks and blinkers upon their eyes.

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Yes.

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>2013
>">Everyone silently laughing at /r9k/ bittervirgin redpillers, /x/ conspiritards and /g/ buttcoin millionaires."
This guy must have killed himself for missing the BTC train

Yup, archives show you.

Yes. And that sounds like a question a shill would ask, shill.

Except stormtards are the same internet generation as we. They're not faggots who does stuff for the highest bidder without understanding web cultures like pajeet and slav services. Most of all, they're fuelled by ideological paranoia, not money, and that's as potent as it comes.

>this was 10 years ago
i am literally turning to fucking dust

Great post

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>Almost a convincing argument until you notice just how poorly Shareblue did shilling for Clinton and Shareblue was an organization with the full backing of hundreds of thousands of dollars of donations and propaganda specialists
The constant shareblue/CTR obsession is actually a misdirection of the elite shills behind all of this. I know this because stormfront did the EXACT same thing by constantly mentioning JIDF as a misdirection as to how they are not shills and they're the people's champions who fight against those organized shills on the other hand. The truth is that JIDF was never even present here, if it's not obvious from the ever-increasing anti-semitism of this place and that it certainly wouldn't be at these levels if they were, however, stormfront were infiltrated and proven to be here countless of times. So what's more likely, that JIDF was actually here, or that they were a misdirection of the present shills?

Same thing goes for SB/CTR. If they were a multi-million shilling OP specifically targeting Yea Forums, then how come support for Hillary kept declining to non-existent? Because they weren't ever present here, perhaps on /r/politics and sites like this, but not on Yea Forums. What was present was the Trump campaign delegating memes to the Trump discord who then shat up /pol/ with carefully-crafted agitprop to make it seem like some outside shilling entity is trying to convince them to vote for Hillary, in the exact same 1:1 fashion that Stormfront did with JIDF. Stuff like CBTS/Qanon/XYZgate are just an extension to this shilling that only prove this, and are painfully obvious to be instigated by an outside entity. That schizo boomer circlejerk is *definitely* not Yea Forums culture and would definitely not evolve here naturally, and guess what, the exact same tactic is always employed in them - preemptive accusation of the opposite side that they're the shills.

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the only shills are /pol/tards trying to convince horny Yea Forumsirgins to try and fuck so they can "save the white race".

>Old Yea Forums made fun of idiocy
And now Yea Forums worships a billionaire who hasn't tackled a single issue.

not only that, there are members of the dunkey DF in this very thread right now.

Yes, but honestly most posts that look like shilling are usually just shitposters.

There are undoubtedly indie game devs / their buddies who shill here.
Im skeptical that AAA companies would shill here. More likely just fanboys shilling for them.

That’s your fault.

and redditors

Yes, but everybody who screams shill on people who like a video game they don't is retarded. Perfect Dark was shilling. Borderlands was shilling. Talking about the Call of Duty reboot the day the trailers came out is not shilling

Probably but they're not as common as the usual I don't like the game so I'll call you a shill posters.

>everytime a new decent size game comes out there are endless low effort threads and faggots defending the game to their dying breath
>also those 1000s of times shills have been here for the past 16 years

Yes. Source: Yearly pre-release cod threads that die immediately on launch day.

Yup. twitter.com/girlsfrontlinee/status/1082540562429861888

"We" made fun of anything that can be made fun of, and still do.
It's completely unrelated to political orientation.

Naturally that will be stuff that isn't really covered by the mainstream, because the jokes run dry rather fast, and you don't need to post the jokes here to make them at all, you can tell them your IRL friends and family without any trouble.
That's why Yea Forums and *chan as a whole may often seem contrarian. "We" simply don't post "our" non-contrarian positions here. There is no reason to.

Bush, for example, was protected by his "War on Terror" shit for a very long time.
Openly criticizing him for it wasn't really possible until the mid 2000s, if you didn't want to get regarded as a lefty terrorist.
Nowadays that problem would be mass immigration. Criticize that, and you are an alt-right bot.

probably since hiroshimoot is willing to sell data that could be used to figure out how many views a post get

Yes, but not as many as people think.

I'd say there is definite shilling on this website. According to metrics like Alexa Yea Forums is around the 600th-800th most visited website on the planet. Considering there are millions upon millions of websites that is a significant ranking. There are millions of unique users visiting this site every month. Any kind of website with that kind of traffic will attract companies that will try to advertise their products on it, whether through ads, or through hiring people to advertise their products while trying to look like just another user.

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Hiro is already selling all of us out by using Cloudflare.
They see each and every post of (You) in realtime with IP address. Even through TLS/https.

If you ever plan anything anti-establishment, don't do it here.
It's not as anonymous as you may think it is, and it's not only up to Hiro and the mods, if you get reported for anything.

B-But that's all part of the plan! 4D CHESS! He may not look like he's doing anything but behind the scenes he's doing a lot!

Yes, so many Nintendo shills here who won't admit that the company has been irrelevant for years

Influencer teams, social media engineers, "data collection teams", etc.
Paid shills exist, yes.

t. Worked for CNN on an influencer team in 2016

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So snoyfags SEETHING that they can't get a single game all year?

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What was it like?

Who here WON'T shill a game that they love? Hell, what is the point of a video game forum if I can't talk about my favorite vidya? The only real problem is when it's off topic, but I just hide that shit.

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And what proves it is that as opposed to a rabid faggot fan spamming the same threads for days here? Because Yea Forums NEVER see those ever

I didn't work on the teams, I basically coalesced all the reports into something easy for the higher ups to read.
This was in early 2016, I left before the election really got into swing.
Basically the tactics swapped between "try to get people to hate Trump" to "talk about hillary forever".

He's talking about actual shills, not just the buzzword that zoomers like you seem to think means "anyone who speaks positively about a game"

Most of them are just severely autistic and brainwashed fanboys that will go to any length for their corporation which is far worse and more damaging than shills.
they're all barneyfag tier obsessed with this shit too. Some of them have been picked out of the crowd but there is still a ton more.
the majority of posts here are nothing more than middle school tier manipulation tactics at this point.

I must admit, I shilled MHW and Iceborne.
Not much, but I did it for free.

Now I don't do it anymore because Capcom finally decided to show all the shit they're adding.

i shill my indie games here from time to time
only on shitty bait threads of gamedev threads though

yeah but I don't think people have it right. People who work directly for the company aren't here, they hire people out and they either spend X amount of hours here among other sites, or they post X amount of posts. If you think an actual employee is here, on company time, posting this shit, you are dead fuckin wrong. Some seem to be a lot more dedicated than others, though

remember?
youtube.com/watch?v=HE2XZK3xiac

Waifufags are the biggest shills on the entire site
They do it for free

You mean soulsfags. More like were

ever since borderlands
there's also CIA posting on /pol/

this was obviously ironic
>links about where to pre-order
>saying DA 2 was good
>telling people to buy the deluxe edition
obviously someone trying to rile up Yea Forums

there are definitely shills, but i hate that it's become so widespread that you can't like anything without being called a shill now.
the word itself has pretty much lost meaning like every other spammed word nowadays

If you've been here for 4+ major Ubisoft releases, it should be obvious that there are.

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Level with me here. From an anonymous perspective reading other anons on Yea Forums, what's the difference? Substance in the discussion?
Yea Forums in no way shape or form is a gate to keep out normies and their simple-minded ilk.

>shill
no and it's basically an imported meme from /pol/ from the good old days of the JIDF memeing which here still has its old essence of
>posting an opinion/topic I don't like? has to be a shill!
I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if there are real shills on /pol/ ever since the 2016 election though
there are however extremely dedicated autists who will post about the same shit repeatedly, like the countdown threads for deadfire and the anti-deadfire dude who posted in literally every thread the same shit and even got called out by the mods.

every post has the same image hash, so unless you got a really dedicated troll

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Yes, whether they're doing it for free or not they definitely exist. Overly positive threads about the newest AAA release where you're dogpiled for the slightest criticism, they usually attack your character rather than outright calling you a faggot/nigger/whatever because those are still no-no words to them. It's incredibly transparent. The GoW twitter account manager was caught red-handed here, accidentally posting a screenshot with his account controls visible.

now imagine being an oldfag /pol/ack who remembers when the board actually had a sizable leftist/liberal minority and remembers the 2012 election tearfest, every time I see that pic of alex jones drinking champagne from 2016 I always remember him absolutely losing it the day after Obama was reelected, helps keep everything in perspective for me
also obligatory fuck off newfags acting like the board is x or x

I should add I doubt it is that low, traffic has only doubled since 2014 so I would say it's more like 1/4 to 1/3

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>Yea Forums in no way shape or form is a gate to keep out normies and their simple-minded ilk.
Unless you're willing to argue that there are people who visit Yea Forums at specific intervals before a Ubisoft release, only to discuss news about that game, I disagree.
You can tell that there's a design to the threads that discuss upcoming Ubi games. Everything from the amount of threads in the catalog to the interval between new games, to something "controversial" popping up about the game which immediately needs more threads. It all escalates with more and more threads at specific moments, to make sure users never forget that a new Ubi game's coming out. This was the case for For Honor, The Division and Asscreed Origins among others.

>Old Yea Forums was liberal.
Good job showing you weren't part of it.

Yes but not as many as some here would have you think.
Social platforms always have them but faggots who think "say something positive about a game i dont like = shills" are retards.

>Plus that fucking Assassin's Creed sticky.
For the Egyptian game?
That sticky was literally just to contain all of the WE WUZ KANGS AND SHIET threads from being spammed.

A sticky isn't always an endorsement, most of the time its for containment. When there is a sticky for something no one can bitch when the mods delete duplicate threads.
saying "REEEEEE IT WAS VIDYA" doesn't work when there is a fuckin sticky for it.

>And now Yea Forums worships
Stop acting like the media and treating /pol/ as all of Yea Forums

You underestimate how autistic some Yea Forumsirgins are

this is your average Tel Aviv shill or somebody getting payed to post from US military
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice

yes

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Shit dude, I'm getting tired. I think we should get off Yea Forums and get some sleep.

Not necessarily actual industry people but there’s plenlty of morons willing to play devils advocate and defend literally anything

Overzealous SJW’s? Unfeeling corporations and scummy Triple A capitalism? A president that Blames the media (except FOX) and videogames for all the problems?

You bet your ass there’s someone willing to go to bay over garbage.

The "play her game" or variants of that are actual shill threads. Usually they're paid zero dollars for it.

Yea Forums became an actual billboard like 4 years ago dude, get with the times. There isnt any board culture on Yea Forums, everything is geared towards advertisement, you don't see people talk about video games as a whole, just the current outrage or quiet marketing attempt of something new.

The console tan threads? Just more advertisement for console wars to feed the market.

Yea Forums is as much about vidya as a car dealership is about cars, you're just getting sold information in 'clever' ways so you'll buy something.

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>4 years ago
way to expose yourself as an electionfag, how has your 4 years here treated you?

no, just shit posters

Pretty much this. They're trying to influence the general conscience on Yea Forums and other places. Make no mistake, these marketing bureaus study the board culture and lingo to better blend in. They'll masquerade as genuine anons to push a narrative or perception.

Some time ago, I actually walked past by an auditorium at my uni where they had a lecture about online community culture. They had, I shit you not, futuba thread screendumps on the blackboard. It very much appeared to be a lecture about how to handle conversations in threads.

What exactly makes you think marketing shills and various other cocksucking influencers would infect every single social media platform but would leave Yea Forums alone?