Why the fuck did retarded Bethesda and normies think that the main undercurrent of Fallout was le 50s?
For anyone who played the first two games it was very very obviously mainly styled after Mad Max and 80s Punk and Metal. Truly only the opening songs and a few of the designs had anything to do with the 50s, and even then it was more to just evoke a 20th century feel.
I would have loved to see more Fallout games carry the original style. The original had fucking Desert Eagle's and a G11's.
Michael Cooper
The point was 50's optimism about nuclear power/weapons juxtaposed with 80's pessimism about nuclear power/weapons. Bethesda isn't totally off the mark in Fallout 3, Fallout 4 and 76 definitely screw it up though.
Juan Gonzalez
it's a mixture of both. look at the designs of practically anything pre-war and it's obvious. bethesda really didn't go overboard in that aspect.
Xavier Myers
76 isn't a Fallout game.
Parker Morales
Really, who cares? Just ignore it. I'm so sick of people grandstanding about how bad it is when those same people ate up Fallout 4 which is just as bad. The only reason we have 76 is because these fucking retards encouraged Bethesda to go further down this path.
Zachary Baker
thanks for your input to the thread in the form of a trite insult for a universally reviled game.
Easton Rogers
Your average "person" (a word I use loosely) cannot actually think in abstract thoughts or even consider the underlying themes or concepts within a work of art. They simply slurp up the most surface level consideration of it and are happy. Worse, however, are the 110-115 IQ fiends who are slightly smarter than your average person, roughly one standard deviation above, who assign meaning to absolutely everything using their brand new powers of deduction and abstract thought and are thus unable to enjoy anything unless it hides "deep" and "complex" themes just below the surface. Often they will not actually analyse anything for themselves and will simply repeat what their favourite YouTuber said, or what someone on Reddit explained to them in the most simple terms.
A normalfag says: >dude it's like cool mutant fights and shit in the future wasteland man lol shit's cool
A 110-115 IQ FIEND says: >Fallout is... deep. It's about violence and... what if... the cold war... went hot?
Michael Gomez
bethesda didnt understand pre war/ post war dichotomy. they thought it would be funny to blend past and present together. fallout was about traversing a destroyed world and occacionally seeing pre war things as a stark reminder of what had been lost. bethshit fallouts are about killing mutants to innappropriate 50s radio hits.
Jack Campbell
Bethesda thinks Fallout is about shooting mutants in the face with wacky meme weapons while 50s music plays in the background.
Joshua Wood
Motherfucker, I've beaten 1 & 2. 200 hours each spent on them. The developers themselves clearly saw the games as a 50's retro future society post nuclear apocalypse. I fucking hate you fart sniffing intellectual faggots who think you know what the fuck you're talking about.
Jace Wright
Im sorry Yea Forumsros, i tried playing Fallout 1 once and i just couldn't
Henry Carter
>implying themes arent the most normietier trash storytelling meme
Bro its like..deep...because uh...its themes
Carson Evans
fo1 and fo2 are pretty objectively bad gameplay wise. its obvious newvegas,3 and 4 are better but pseuds will tell you otherwise
Nicholas Butler
lol
Jace Long
I was born in 2001 but I played both 1 and 2. Sounds like you just didn't set combat speed to max and play with a 10 agility character.
Josiah Taylor
If you only consider combat to be gameplay then I would agree. The combat is terrible in Fallout 1 and 2, and marginally better in the later games. Every single other aspect of the game is better in 1 and 2 though, and many of those aspects could be considered gameplay.
Chase Garcia
>max combat speed zoom zoom
James Gomez
It was always 50s retro futurism and adoption of atomic energy and/or consequences thereof
Connor Nguyen
The difference is that the gameplay in FO1 and FO2 is there to act as a vehicle for story telling. Yeah, it kinda sucks, but the characters and world are really enjoyable. In FO3 and FO4, the gameplay is basically all you have, as the characters and writing are extremely neutered and boring. The only Fallout game that manages to have acceptable gameplay is Fallout 4, but Fallout 4 is such a fucking dull and uninspired game for the most part that simply having 5/10 shooter gameplay doesn't make up for it. Great narrative and writing + bad/mediocre gameplay > average gameplay and bland/boring narrative/writing.
Evan Perry
I got as far as getting the water chip before stopping due to massive anxiety I still enjoyed what the game offered though, it's just scary because of the really weird uncanny early 3D that I'm not used to in the slightest
FO1/2 gameplay is as good as any classic CRPG. Don't blame the game for you being raised on push-to-win adhd shooters.
Jack Evans
Those RPGs didn't have particularly engaging gameplay, either. It's fine for what it is, a vehicle to carry a player through an interactive world and it doesn't detract from the experience, but it's not "good" by any means. Hell, it doesn't have to be "good" when the main point of the game is to experience the world.
>200 years after the end of the world >Still fuckloads of unlooted buildings >Civilisation barely exists >Pre-war corpses holding post-war drugs, weapons and money >Despite 200 years with access to a shitload of pre-war knowledge in the form of documentation, holotapes, et cetera, people still build shanty houses and subsistence farms Bethesda just didn't really give a shit, especially in 4 and 76.
Nathan Nguyen
What piece of shit asshole makes a completely random guy go off to some irradiated shithole without so much as a warning Fuck the Brotherhood
Mason Thompson
>no CRPGs have good gameplay Are you hearing yourself right now?
Jack Bell
New Vegas is so fucking overrated
>barely finished >writing makes you a god >legion has no depth >map is big but empty and bland
Levi White
Sperg detected
Nathan Cook
1 year
Joseph Brown
The G11 was Fallout 2, wasn't it? Along with the Jackhammer, FAL, Thompson, and the other /k/ tech. New Vegas brought back some of that- albeit with the names filed off and slight details changed instead of using real names like F1/2- and then of course 4 took a steaming shit made of pipe guns.
Aiden Rivera
Guys, I like the Bethseda games and the first 2 games.
I've played every game in the series, even BoS
Benjamin Edwards
I didn't say "no", I said those with similar gameplay to Fallout. It's extremely detached and not super interactive.
It was rushed out, but the thing is about Obsidian is that even if they were given all the development time in the world they likely wouldn't have made a complete game anyway.
Logan Myers
A highly underrated post.
Joseph Evans
because fallout 3 feels like it's designed and written by someone who had the original games and their plots described to them and then put all of it together without any consideration for logic which is why you get shit like Megaton and 50's music since that's what plebs think fallout is all about
Eli Diaz
Meaning that aesthetically and somewhat culturally it was almost the same world as hours up until at least the 90's. Not counting technology of course and that there is a lot more Art Deco.
Isaiah Davis
Wow you're such a cool dude for liking everything. You really showed us cynical oldfags!
Carter Howard
That's not remotely true
There is no divergence, even all the way back to the 1600s shit is different.
Alexander Cook
Wrong, homo. I am a normalfag, I have a tested IQ of 92, with absolutely no atypical neural traits, and my only hobbies are exercise and drinking lots of WATER. YOU'RE the sperg compared to me.
Ryder Bennett
It's really telling to compare the settlements in FO2 (Vault City, Reno, NCR) to anything in a Bethesda game. And yet FO2 still manages to feel more bleak and dangerous.
>It's extremely detached and not super interactive. Yeah maybe if you literally only play FPS games. What about RTSs, are they too 'detatched' for you too because you don't get to control ever soldier in real-time?
David Smith
Because they don't want you, outsider
Bentley Wood
>even all the way back to the 1600s shit is different. What's this?
James Garcia
RTS games are typically more interactive than CRPGs and more in-depth, that's not a fair comparison. CRPGs aren't bad for their gameplay, but their gameplay is typically just a worse version of superior management games.
Don't remember his name but there is a Japanese Emperor who gets snatched by space jews.
Plus there is the ruins Jack Cabbot found
Jason Parker
The Bethesda titles are flanderizations of Fallout.
Christopher Sanchez
Nice iq obsession sperg
Xavier Robinson
kys
Anthony Morris
>Noticing my obsession That's something a sperg would notice!
Benjamin Robinson
If you don't like Bethesda fallout games, just stick with 1, 2 Tactics and BoS because if Bethesda didn't get the IP those would be the whole series, maybe, maybe Van Buren would have released but I doubt it
Levi Gonzalez
>their gameplay is typically just a worse version of superior management games. Name some then. What are these games of which Fallout and Baldur's Gate are a 'worse version'.
If you break it down into its most basic parts, they're just worse versions of better, larger scale turn based strategy games like HoMM. I am not sure why you are defending something like the extremely simple and rote gameplay of CRPGs so hard.
Christopher Garcia
Get the fuck off my board
Logan Morris
I might agree if we were talking about the same games. But Fallout went from one to the other pretty clearly. It's not people reading too much into it, it's just a jarring change in direction.
Jaxson Davis
This I like how the tone/setting of Fallout is something some of the"hardcore " fans can just bullshit in whatever they feel like at the moment. before FO3 >oh no FO3 won't be retrofuturistic enough FNV comes along >oh this is totally cool FO4 comes >no, where's muh realistic tacticool weapons >oh no, Bethesda included some 70-80s song, Lore Rape, I'll just ignore NV did exactly the same >but no, no, no, Fallout was actually supposed to be the 80s Punk and Metal
They themselves can't figure out what Fallout is "truly" about and frequently contradict themselves. >50s retrofuturism vs whatever else they some up with >survival or rebuilding society >campy vs super-serious >real life weapons vs sci-fi ones
A lot of things were visually from that era, the Highwayman? the Poseidon reactor? perhaps culturally they weren't in the 50s.
Oliver Morris
>instant reply
Eli Richardson
Transformers was actually good guys
Mason Turner
I was also born in 2001 and didn’t set the combat speed to 10 because I’m not a fucking ADHD cunt, also Fallout 2 is objectively worse than 1.
Jackson Wood
Yeah Classic FO had all this bizarre neo-gothicicsm going on in addition to all the 50s and 80s stuff, it was really a strange collection of aesthetics but it really gave the games some intrigue and personality.
Mason Cook
The future is now old man
Carter Perez
Asperger's Syndrome.
Levi Evans
>I am not sure why you are defending something like the extremely simple and rote gameplay of CRPGs so hard. I am not sure why you are attacking it without providing a single real argument or concrete example of an issue you have with it.
Ryder Ortiz
>Reddit sucks Bethesdas dick >Yea Forums only counts 1, 2 and new vegas as canon
Fuck
Jonathan Stewart
I have no particular issues with it, I just don't find it particularly engaging compared to just about any other form of game interaction. I see it as a bicycle, something that gets me from point A to point B with as little fuss or flair as possible and is fine for what it does.
William Gonzalez
Is is possible to do a BB Gun only run?
Jack Powell
The thing about the 1950s was that it was the introduction of the transistor and everything that brought with it (portable transistor radios, modern computers, miniaturized technology)
The Fallout Universe never invented transistors and everything is still vacuum tube based (Well technically Mr House invented the first transistor chip called the Platinum Chip in New Vegas in 2077).
Either way normalfags think that vacuum tube technology is 1950s since that is where that technology was used at its latest in our world before we switched to transistor based technology.
The music quality, television sets and technology looks very "50s" because that is what people associate that level of technology with. In reality it's more like how the world would look like in 2077 if we never invented the transistor and kept developing vacuum tube technology.
Anthony Ross
Wrong thread buddy
Owen Morgan
Yeah, those were great, they managed to create a sense of scale and a unique eerie feel, don't know why they abandoned them when they could've worked even better in 3D
If you like watching the exact same combat animation over and over slower on purpose that's fine, but I was just trying to give a tip to someone who didn't like the combat a way to make it more bearable for them.
Of course Yea Forums will find a way to be elitist about literally anything.
Caleb Cook
This pretty fairly sums it up. Bethesda wanted to make an post-apocalyptic 1950-60s game, originally they were post-apocalyptic games where the world ended in the 50s-60s and everything since had continued. Bethesda hasn't done shit for any of their franchises in the last almost 20 years now. They have no idea what they are doing. They bought out most of the developers of their hits and replaced them with Bethesda Game Studios who clearly can't make a game to save their lives. Just like Blizzard, all of their new, incapable team members ride on the legacies of their predecessors and the only reason their games are even popular is because the older games in these franchises were actually good. There are two main reasons that Fallout is now a CoD clone: Their team doesn't know what they are doing and they need to cater to casuals for sales.
I really hate to be a hipster, but the video game industry was so much better before it became mainstream and FPS games like Halo and CoD became cool.
There isnt any lore that proves this, IIRC they mention a transitor as early as 2027 too.
William White
>I see it as a bicycle, something that gets me from point A to point B with as little fuss or flair as possible and is fine for what it does. Cycling has more 'depth' and is more 'engaging' than any strategy game you could throw at me mate.
Ayden Bailey
>80s Punk and Metal. the original interplay games were covered in retro and art deco stuff. they did of course also have mad max and some punk, but not anywhere to the point of being the main theme and style of the game.
what bethesda did totally wrong was turn fallout into a cartoon. 4 and 76 feel bizarre and take the campiness way too far.
Joshua Jenkins
Fallout 2 was way worse with the camp imo
Zachary Clark
Why do retards who have never played Fallout 2 keep repeating this?
Broken Hills in FO2 is better written than ANYTHING in Fallout 1.
those appear randomly when traveling and could technically be skipped by just leaving as soon as you enter
Jackson Wright
>I really hate to be a hipster, but the video game industry was so much better before it became mainstream and FPS games like Halo and CoD became cool. You do know what site you're on right?
Caleb Phillips
Yea Forums is full of zoomers who are anti-hipster who unironically defend things like Minecraft now
Sebastian Long
Why are Deathclaws so fucking unkillable in New Vegas?
Level 15, 75 Guns, still get bodied unless I snipe
Jose Brown
How did the boomers not run out of ammo after 200 years?
Nathan Hall
Out of interest, do you consider your high intelligence the reason you are single?
Nicholas Evans
PLEASE refer to No u.
Juan James
At least FO1 doesn't have talking deathclaws
Carson Carter
You are right about that, but I prefer having actual roleplaying and stats mattering in FO2. (Charisma literally doesn't work in FO1 outside of two instances IIRC)
Aaron James
It's a video game.
Exploring the extent of rapid genetic mutation is one of the most fascinating and underplayed aspects of the Fallout universe. I was actually stoked that 76 was using mutated cryptozoological creatures as enemies. It's a fantastic avenue to add variety to the world.
Isaac Sullivan
>bad gameplay Fucking Zoomers
Jaxson Sanchez
>install sprint mod >load up on jet, like 20 of em >sprint my ass right past past the boomers defenses
Fucking godly
Adam Cox
Fallout was about campy juxtapositions. That's literally the only unifying theme in both the originals. Every town was a vehicle to tell a new story about survival in the wasteland and each would have something like the player working to make extremely addicted street drugs to profit of the hopeless people in the wasteland... or say fuck it and star in a porno. The problem is almost entirely voice acting being so expensive that it takes away from development and cannot have as much writing behind it.
Look at VTMB, it has great voice acting and writing, but awful combat and honestly pretty bad level design in general. The game is propped up by its writing but due to the cost of recording so many lines, dev time and budget had to be cut elsewhere. Bethesda are even harder jews than activision was though so of course they put out shit games
Christian Thomas
18 months ftfy
Jayden Hall
>I like how the tone/setting of Fallout is something some of the"hardcore " fans can just bullshit in whatever they feel like at the moment. Most of these people came into fallout when they got 15, visited Yea Forums and NMA and found out that making half of their personality about hating new is fun and made you an interesting person. Also there are a lot of opinions about how fallout should be.
I really like the Lovecraftian stuff in 3 and 76 desu
Also using urban legends and cryptids as FEV enemiea is a really cool choice in my opinion
Ryan Adams
>was born in 2001 Get the fuck out
Andrew Fisher
There was a lot of 50s in Fallout actually, look at every single car for example.
Henry Morales
It can totally work if they don't go overboard. Alas Mothership Zeta and Scorchbeasts.
We just need Bethesda to stop when they're ahead.
Cooper Jenkins
Saying you were born in 2001 would have gotten you beaten up 5 years ago. But now its the norm in this shithole
Samuel Miller
All the shit in New Vegas is tolerated because it's actually a good game. For example I turned off the radio and listened to Mark Morgan instead, that's not something you can do in 3 or 4.
The 50s was before the Great War though so everything from that era was like that. Everything that was scavenged, built, and developed after the Great War is 80s industrial punk.
Nicholas Foster
It's definitely a mix, especially in 2 which introduces settlements more advanced and neat than anything in 3, NV or 4.
do you even fit through doors with an ego that size?
Adam Hall
what
Josiah Phillips
the only really bad thing fallout 2 did was to reveal that practically all vaults where social experiments. It never made sense and only serves as an explanation as to why society hasn't recovered more
Jonathan Phillips
>Why the fuck did retarded Bethesda and normies think that the main undercurrent of Fallout was le 50s? It's because Bethesda need to sele this game to masses. and it so happens to be, that masses don't really like all the negative vibes. They don't like seeing lots of dirt, blood and misery, as well as hearing it in terms of sound design and music tracks. So instead of that they prefer more happy-go-lucky themes, where you don't need to experience the horrors of the nuclear war. Just here! Have this awesome suit of power armor and a complimentary mini-nuke launcher! Now go ahead and "explore" this colorful and wacky world of Fallout™, cleansing it from evil Raiders™ and saving poor Settlements™!
I always thought the implication with the first game was that any vaults like Vault 15 were raped by mutants or had a problem and radiated all the inhabitants like necropolis
>It never made sense and only serves as an explanation as to why society hasn't recovered more
But yes, Fallout 2 works because the vaults should have opened by now, but at the same time, Vault 13 made it seem like vault dwellers were paranoid of the outside world so they didn't want to leave. Vault City though is proof that leaving can actually work
Blake Myers
seething
Luke Ward
...
Connor Price
Go away, retard. We're airing our grievances and although cynical, that post was entirely viable.
Ryan Wright
camp in fallout 1 was subtle. take the vault suit for example. you set out to explore the wastes in fucking bright pajamas. now Vault Suit™ is a recognizable, franchise defining feature.
Adam Hill
The bombs were never meant to drop
Oliver Rodriguez
3, NV and 4 have much worse gameplay
Jackson Turner
It hurts me metaphysically that I can't call the mods on this
Gabriel Turner
>Maybe was sung in the 1940s not 50s >A kiss to build a dream on was written in 1935 only to be adapted later in the 50s by Armstrong
Jack Walker
OP was clearly generalizing for simplicity but thank you for clarifying.
Zachary Russell
I'm more annoyed with the gratification of violence to be honest. Besthesda's fallout is dumb because it does not show violence realistically nor does it go overboard with it like DOOM or Serious Sam.
In the end gibs just don't fit in the game in my opinion because they add nothing.
Christopher Gutierrez
>let's spend an absurd amount of resources on deliberately faulty vaults to conduct social experiments >but since they're only used in the event of a nuclear attack (which we don't believe will happen) the experiments will only be conducted post-apocalypse. >in which case the results will be moot anyway since civilization as we know it has ended anyway >and in case there is no nuclear war (which we believe) the vaults will never be used and therefor not yield any results anyway
real galaxy brain logic
Jordan Gray
they hated him because he spoke the truth
Jacob Barnes
>all these boomers mad about a zoomer playing and liking boomer shit kek
Logan Adams
I played that shit for the first time last year, the gameplay is perfectly fine, neck yourself.
James Young
>it's actually a good game no it isn't. the only thing it has going for it is lots of branching dialogue trees. unfortunately everything surrounding them is a complete shitpile and waste of time.
Sebastian Bailey
>Besthesda's fallout is dumb because it does not show violence realistically Neither do the originals. > nor does it go overboard with it Except it does? SS doesn't have limb damage and Doom is a much newer and more focused game so obviously it has better gore.
Ethan Young
>it's not good because everything is shit These deep and insightful posts are the only reason I still come here.
Kevin Morris
He is not correct, Enclave expected the war to happen and the vaults were social experiments because they wanted to know how humans will behave in limited environments because their endgame was some dumb shit like going into space.
Charles Lopez
At least in originals you don't go around the map shooting supermutant heads off in slo-mo while listening to jazz music. It's just stupid.
Joseph Wright
The worst offender is UI, FO1/2 inventory management is kinda janky, but nuFO pip boy dickery is absolute garbage.
Dylan Jenkins
ok hol up, let me write you an essay about a game i don't like.
Brayden Davis
Well in FO2 I would play a minigame of "how many raiders can I gib in one Vindicator burst" instead
Owen Harris
>Going around exploding people with your fists in 2D is not stupid >Going around exploding people with your fists in 3D is stupid
How do you know I never played to original fallouts?
Colton Evans
>That's not remotely true Imagine being so fucking unbelievably retarded that you are 100% wrong and still think this is an ok thing to say. We're literally discussing actual Fallout lore, not your BoS fan-fiction. The world is more or less the exact same until after WW2, then the timelines starts to change more clearly. For the love of jesus christ screaming in agony on the fucking cross end your life.
Leo Fisher
>that shitty Health song Huh?
Michael Garcia
What are some good mods for Fallout 4? Havent't played it since a week before it released and I just pirated all the DLC and high res textures for it.
Liam Hall
Also, is there a VR mod that works with the Rift and doesn't require me paying jewbucks to todd howard?
Anthony Cruz
>your_rarted.jpg There is a difference between actual 50's retro, art deco, and actual story and lore, than "le 50's".
Idiot brainlet can't understand that a game can have multiple influences.
Stay mad ho.
Xavier Martinez
>classic fallout wasn't le 50s When will this meme end for good? The very first thing you see in the intro for Fallout 1 is footage from a black and white TV that looks like this. It always was 50s retrofuturism, everything from the design of the robots, the computers, to the pre-war cars.
Old World Blues >doesn’t fuck with the lore (Mothership Zeta literally claims that the Great War started because of aliens) >great map you can come back to >lore-friendly loot that is second only to Lonesome Road’s loot >player home >immersive with the other DLCs >reddit quotes are entirely skippable, whereas the reddit of Zeta (dude aliens!) is a core concept >can actually make choices, can’t in Zeta
Oliver Perry
I finished 1 and the only hint that the world of fallout is stuck in the 50's are the intros and the weird cars. The rest of the game shows clearly a different colour and theme, maybe like some Anons say it's to show a contrast with the 50's optimistic spirit and the cruel actually reality the player is dealing or maybe they thought that aesthetically it would look better and more mysterious
>can make choices OWB literally has the fewest choices next to lonesome road
>kill the thinktank >dont kill the think tank wew,how hard
Nathaniel Miller
Please, stop, retard. The amount of ridiculous shit out there in Fallout that will come and kill you from dwellers to aliens is outlandish. Not even the dawn of mankind was probably this fucking dangerous for a human being. You know entire cities disappear overnight regularly, right?
And clearly there's a break in the chain of knowledge, many such repositories were completely lost. You go loot a random neighbor's house, tell me how many engineering documents you find you stupid faggot.
Kayden Wilson
How many choices does Zeta have? >kill the aliens Uhhhh....
Chase Gutierrez
the game universe in fallout obeys the metaphysics of 50's atomic energy infomercial shown in the beginning. like radiation turning people into zombies and causing rapid mutation instead of killing them. imagine playing fallout without any point of reference. you step into necropolis and see ghouls and super mutants. FEV serves as a backdrop but these mutants are introduced as creations of radiation.
Joseph Cruz
lets not pretend like this Chadwick gritty high T design hasnt completelly dissapeared from the whole industry. Fallout 1 feels like aeons ago.
if you look at the limpwristed boomers at Bathesda it makes 100% sense. also you dont deserve the cultural artifacts of a better society since you are complicit in this deranged shithole that is the sanitized bugmen capitalist concentration of the industry in california today.
I ACTUALLY have an IQ of 120 though, and you're a fag
When you're actually intelligent, themes mean fucking nothing to you. Guns and explosions and shit will always captivate an audience, dumb or not, but regurgitating """"themes"""" to a smart man in order to appear cultured is like if a teenage boy were to try and impress a 35 year old porn-star with all of his "vast" sexual experience he had with his highschool girlfriend.
Austin Jenkins
Your reading comprehension is shit, that's the exact same thing he just said, but using different wording
Adrian Walker
I have an IQ of 110, and I don't understand your post lol
Ryder Lopez
Does the extra 5 points mean you can do long division in your head? Fuck off
Grayson King
12 iq isnt the same as 120 user
Xavier Morris
Only a brainlet couldn't do long division in their head. It'll take a while, but yeah, any dumbass could do it. It's mostly just memorization.
Henry Baker
>All this assumptions without any meaning yet trying to look intelectual So this is the power of pretentious obsidrones.
Sebastian Adams
>Raiders™
I'm surprised that Bethesda kept their generic Raiders from FO3 when they did FO4, even after seeing FNV do all those different raider gangs and factions.
Thomas Smith
>Art Deco structures >dieselpunk vibes >1950s cartoon styles in the vault boy icons and animations >intro songs are 50s music >
Aaron Roberts
worst taste I've had the displeasure of seeing on this board >born in 2001 what the fuck
Brandon Wilson
The style is that the 50s optimism is supposed to contrast with the grittyness of the 80s punk new world, Bethesda just shits over all of it.
This is the most based and redpilled post that I've seen on here in a while. And I almost never use that phrase, but am making an exception. This user is very in tune with reality.