When asked about the future cast additions of #GBVS...

when the game is plain simple and basic there is no reason to not add more character initially
since for the most part they will all just played the same
they literally just want to sell them as DLC

post the one screenshot with the lobby names

No Arulu, no buy

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>Make a fighting game
>Instead of focusing on a quality launch roster and gameplay mechanics, focus on a dumb RPG mode that gets old super fast
>Announcement completely flops and nobody is excited for the "new" character that plays almost exactly like two of the already existing characters plus a long single player RPG mode with co-op no one asked for.

I was pretty hyped for this game, but after EVO, not so much.

The only thing that'll save this is of it launches at 40 bucks.

>Post beta
>Special meter still only has ONE use
>UI still has all information placed on the top portion of the screen
>Still can't turn off the easy inputs
>Nothing was done to increase the skill ceiling even a little bit, all characters are 2 hour to master at best characters.
>It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they won't add queuees and rematch options for lobbies as well.
>But hey! Story mode with RPG mechanics.

NOBODY CARED ABOUT M.O.M. MODE IN GUILTY GEAR XRD AND NOBODY WILL CARE ABOUT THIS SHIT STORY MODE

Wait...Not PC?

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the way they're going about with this game is so peculiar
>been a sponsor in the fgc for a couple of years
>get a veteran company in the genre with a decent rep to make the game
>have their esports team shill and play the game for them
>going well so far
>"we know the fgc well and arcsys knows the technical know-how"
>beta comes out
>people aren't too impressed
>more news come out
>delayed
>roster is shit
>no one seems to care about the rpg stuff
>tell the press that you have more DLC characters already in the works than the base roster
>but free evolite so that there's like million copies sold already am I right haha
wtf are they doing
it's like they're doing this on purpose

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This is my greatest worry about the game. There's so much coming next year that can just steal Granblue's thunder. The release dates for UNICL-R and GG can bury this game

>>Special meter still only has ONE use
There's nothing wrong with this tho.

its coming to PC but not at launch and no crossplay guaranteed yet

I knew they were saving all the good characters for DLC, fucking jewish tactics. Watch the first batch be full of cute girls like Naru, Vampy, Cag, etc that they know people will spend money on.

I'm gonna bitch every thread about Lowain and Ladiva having absolutely nothing to show yet while Percival was already playable. Can't even promote their goddamn grappler function

You're generously assuming there will be an install base for this game that'll actually be playing this game and not buying only for the gacha related bonus.

If they can make the game feel faster and more responsive then I could see it being more popular. Increase walk speed, making running feel snappier, open up the combo system at least a little bit more, give everyone more command normals.

true, if it's revealed the game will cost less this is perfectly acceptable.
Full price for 11 characters (in a simplified fighting game, no less) and a tacked on beat-em-up/rpg mode is unacceptable.

>If they don't fix fundamental issues with the base game and ignore what pro fightan gamers says should be addressed
Like what? I'm genuinely curious.

>beta comes out
>people aren't too impressed

I saw the exact opposite.

finna preorder my special edtion bros

I could see them do a repeat of what they did with BBTAG, where the base game was less than full price and the season pass covered the rest.

>Gran and Katalina are the same
Holy shit, Yea Forums attempting to talk about FGs

Identical FUNCTIONS.
The numbers are different as in Kat has better frame data on her fireball and pokes while Gran has faster lunge and more damage on DP, also Gran is faster while Kat has access to an armored parry.

But they are both Shotokan Karate style characters.

For comparisson, SFV launched with 16 characters and out of these only Ryu and Ken were representating the shoto archetype, then you had 3 charge, 2 grappler, 2 brawler, 2 rushdown, 2 zoner and 2 footsie.

You're really sure of yourself, are you user? Like you aren't afraid that you'll end up in pic related?

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And Necalli, that is also Rushdown, but I forgot about him.

Will you have to roll lootboxes for characters?

Percival at least has the fire stacks and 5D command grab which is interesting. But yeah like said Perci already being playable yet the more unique characters that were announced first weren't is a really bad look for the game.

I fail to understand why is it that Ladiva (Fastiva), their main grappler function and also, in my opinion, the most interesting character so far, is yet to be playable when she was one of the first announced.

>crossplay
Sony don't wanna, only game they allowed it for was SFV which was funded by them in the 1st place.

Yes don't forget Granblue is taking their archetypes from SF2. People can forgive the small roster in UNIST or guilty gear because each character is unique and original.

So far we've had Gran a shoto, Katalina a shoto, the small girl is akuma, the furry is birdie/poison, Percival is another shoto/Sagat, the grappler will be Zangief, Lancelot is basically Ibuki... etc

What the fuck does that have to do with a fighting game of 11 characters and 15 paid dlc coming day one?? Are you stupid bro?

kek

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>the furry
Standards have really changed.

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that seems like information you're supposed to not tell everyone especially like half a year before release

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>the small girl is akuma
Where's her fireball? Where's her tatsu? Where's her teleport? She's only got a demon flip and 1 function, air fireball, is missing from that.

>the small girl is akuma
not even close to accurate
>the furry
who
>Lancelot is basically Ibuki
he plays more like leo

Casuals will drop this game after a week when all the chads who have fundementals frametrap them to death and mashing the a button doesn't work anymore.

Who do you think started the anti campaign? Nice one smoothbrain

This is mandatory for literally any FG, no exceptions. They might stay for RPG mode though, I know I will.

Akuma-lite then, which is even lazier.
I don't want to sound too negative I tried the beta and I'll probably buy it in the future and play with my friends who don't play fgs. The problem is that characters have limited combo options and there isn't even a huge roster to make up for it.

And even if my comparisons were not perfect I still stand that I haven't seen anything that original from the game.

There will literally never be crossplay any fighter that isnt SF.

When you boil a character a character's moveset down to barely a handful of moves, it's easy to churn them out in no time.

>So far we've had Gran a shoto, Katalina a shoto, the small girl is akuma, the furry is birdie/poison, Percival is another shoto/Sagat, the grappler will be Zangief, Lancelot is basically Ibuki... etc
Fucking retard.

>Gran
Ken+Ragna
>Katalina
Ryu+Orie
>Ferry
Dhalsim+Rachel
>Charlotta
Honda+Akuma
>Lancelot
Chipp+Leo
>Ladiva
Raiden(SNK)
>Percival
Order Sol

should i even get this for ps4? since it;s ASW i know for a fact it's coming to Pc/Switch.

You can wait for PC if want.

>fighting games on Switch

Lol

Holy shit, Yea Forums attempting to talk about FGs

>property of a gachafag company
>spinoff ends up being jewish
woah

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Who still plays games on pc?

Bro I probably own more fgs than you, if you're in Europe we could play.

What game companies don't seem to get is that the simpler the game is, the quickest this takes effect.
Casuals will NEVER, EVER be able to stand up against FG veterans, its like babies on wheeled baby walkers trying to race against a grown man.

why do people force this narrative
unist threads have persisted since the jp console release and the gg guys made so much threads they got kicked to /vg/

>>Ferry
>Dhalsim+Rachel
She doesn't have a teleport, she's way closer to Poison+Birdie.

I played the beta and had fun. There was also new tech being found literally every hour the beta was up and then it ended. You can bet there's gonna be more when its out for real.

The "nothing new" argument can be said for literally any FG of the past decade. I don't see why you should be playing anything other than SF2 or the 1st GG with that line of thinking.

SFII Dhalsim didn't have a teleport, either. At least, not until Turbo.

Retards keeping buying their nonsense.

>Defending 11 characters on launch, similar characters, and a worthless 1 player mode
>For $60 plus tip
Granblue fags are really brainwashed.

>keep

>it's like they're doing this on purpose
Of course, because despite what Cy games says about their fuck shit mobile game just fueling what they really want to do. It's all just a front so you go spend money on their mobile game. Never trust Gacha shit, they will continue to produce mediocre "real games" to draw people to their shit mobile games.

>I played the beta and had fun. There was also new tech being found literally every hour the beta was up and then it ended.

I watched the evo tournament, trust me the game doesn't support any crazier combos than we saw in the beta.

>The "nothing new" argument can be said for literally any FG of the past decade.

No it doesn't watch anything any character from GG or UNIST, hell even SFV had new archetypes with laura being a grappler with a fireball.

Poison and birdie aren't from SF2 either.

And were probably among the people calling SFV launch roster "tiny" when it was 16 character strong and while very varied functions.

She has nothing from Birdie and saying Poison when she is a fucking ripoff of Whip from KOF tells me a lot about you.

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Granbluefag here, not paying the slightest bit of attention to this trollop, go shout at the retards that actually like fighting games

>laura being a grappler with a fireball
>new archetype
you cannot actually be serious right now

>She has nothing from Birdie
Small projectiles that help with mixups and extending combos
A far away grab that works as a hit
She can rev her whip the same way Birdie does

>> SFV had new archetypes with laura being a grappler with a fireball.
Okay.

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>gran and katalina are the same

buying this for the rpg mode?

I only played BB on my psp and I spend more time reading text than fighting sorry if I didn't remember that char.

>sorry im a retard who thinks he knows what he's talking about
apology and concession accepted

Didn't Killer Instinct have Crossplay?
Also, ArcSys games didn't have crossplay because they couldn't afford it, but Cygames can easily afford servers for that so it's possible.

An user showed me the grappler from BB, but it still defeats your point which was that there isn't original characters in the last 10 years.

hot take faggot too bad you dont know what youre talking about

>8 characters revealed
>5 dudes

Fuck off seriously. GBF is a waifu game. I'm not buying a crappy sausage fest.

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>original doesnt mean good
>n-no it does! SFV had original and it was good!
>its not original
>w-well granblue still shit!
retard alert

Ferry was the most fun character because she felt like an actual ASW designed character.

Nobody likes potatoes. They are so ugly.

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nah, potato was the most fun, ferry was braindead, extremely efficient and strong, but braindead

Are there any unpredictable/stance characters yet? Everyone I've seen looks standard and easy to read.

Man you're really no fun.

Imagine how porn sites would look in a fantasy world.

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Dude you're fucking retarded if you think Iron Tagger "fireball" is anything like Laura's.
Enjoy your 1 autocombo per character you fucking mongoloid.

KI is Microsoft so that different. Sony will never let anything but potential huge sellers get crossplay. I wouldnt be surprised if SFVI doesnt have it after SFV's abysmal launch.

>GBF is a waifu game
times change gramps. Age of the homos now

Seems like that's what they're doing. The game costs 6k yen on Amazon, but every other new game I see costs 7-8k, so it'll probably cost $40-$50 when it comes to the west

speaking of crossplay, anyone know why the power rangers game is still only xbox and switch? it has crosplay now, but i suspect the pc version is being held hostage cause of the stadia release.

Here, have another.

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Add too many waifus and you run the risk of the game not being taken seriously by the FGC which you may not care about personally but Cygames does because they want in on that sweet e-sports money.

i dunno, im having fun watching you implode personally

>time has changed

they literally announced a season pass. your basically gonna pay for waifus as it always has been in GACHA games.

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Then go 50:50 not fucking 5:3.

It still doesn't work the same way as Laura's slow fireballs.

Except every time they release paid character rankings fujos are lucky to get one male in top10.

Twitter likes don't make money.

>n-not the same!
holy hell the damage control

Feels fucking good. Not that I'm going to buy this dumbed down garbage now that GG2020 is coming out, in the same year, mind you. I just like that based cygames is dabbing on your waifufags who wont even play the game by making all your precious female characters DLC, so you have to buy them like the paypig you are.

Who even gives a shit about this game now that a new guilty gear is coming out next year. Arcsys really shot themselves in the foot with that one.

>It's the have tons of characters so you can find you like gachashit having a fighting game
>Then proceed to have the smallest rooster ever
Dead on arrival niggas

It's not damage control is having eyes that can see. Are you really unable to see the difference in the archetype?

>It still doesn't work the same way as Laura's slow fireballs.
Really? It charges. It combos. It resets. It's used by a brown girl with a rack. Seems like it's working the same to me on a character with more going on than SFV's shallow meta.

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So this post is obviously retarded but is there anything in the idea that this game actually draws from SF2 instead of shitty anime games?

Where did I implode?

The starting roster is exactly 50:50 though.
Female: Katalina, Charlotta, Ferry, Metera, Zeta
Male: Gran, Percy, Vaseraga, Lancelot, Lowain
Other: Ladiva

It'll probably end up at that level, they are just playing it safe with the launch.

The only thing I'm seeing is you nitpicking whenever it suits you while denying others nitpicking back when it doesn't.

>all these people rightfully arguing about the dlc problem
>my favorite character is already in so I won't have to pay
Feels good

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Can you read the part where I mention "slow fireballs" meaning their use is too allow you to switch sides and mix the opponent. Laura's fireball is like a lite version of Aegis reflector it's not meant as a serious fireball.

>smallest rooster ever

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It's means "don't say shit you know can't take back." Because saying the game will be dead on arrival will look very stupid if the opposite happens.

If you want to call a nitpick saying that Laura's "fireball" is not the same as Bullet and Iron Tagger more conventional fireballs go ahead but I'll call you an idiot.

>other
There is no other you stupid fucking retards. There are only two sexes you morons, and the grappler is a crossdressing MAN.

That's a lot of goalpost moving. Oh, I mean a specific type of fireball! Fuck off faggot, grapplers with fireballs didn't start with Laura and they certainly aren't a new archetype.

>Granblue fags are really brainwashed.
What can we say? We love gold bricks.

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Shit ton of characters could do that before SFV Birdie Capcomfag.

>ketchup on eggs
Disgusting

And I'll call you a deflecting, nitpicking retard, deal?
>w-where did i deflect
From the moment you started trying to push this convo away from the fact SFV isn't original by trying to start an argument about fireballs.

If you want to be a robot about it you're right there are characters with command grabs that also have some sort of fireball.
I just saying that when you think of archetypes mentioning Laura as a new one is still true.

It's a fujogame now, everyone know that and the last stats showed during the GBF stream proved it.

>waifufags crash the servers
>fujofags buy the merch
We all support the game in our own way.

Only a fool would buy this game at launch when they've made it clear they're half-assing it.

FUJOS GET OUT

But I used Birdie and it worked pretty well.

NO BEA NO FUCKING BUY

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Last ranking was full of male characters fucking liar.

Thats the problem. Fightin games are most active at launch. By the time the complete edition comes out the online will be a ghost town.

Hell naw, that shit is great. Your tongue must be busted.

>fool
You mean Whale, I bet there'll be a lot of whale that buy it four times to get all of the bonus

How is Laura a new archetype? Go ahead and explain how she's brand-spanking new when all she is is a rush grappler with a slow fireball which are both things that Bullet did several years before she was even conceived.
And before you try to weasel out by saying Bullet's fireball is fast, it isn't. It's a fireball used for stopping opposing projectiles, oki tool, mix-up tool, and a combo tool which are all things your Laura uses hers for.

Gacha players are massive idiots so Cygames have nothing to worry about.

No whale need any gold bricks at this point

still not 5:3 but you just wanted to shit on muh trans character. It was so fucking obvious from the start.

>From the moment you started trying to push this convo away from the fact SFV isn't original by trying to start an argument about fireballs.

The argument was about archetypes and I still say that I haven't seen a grappler that uses slow fireballs to mix you up. If you want to stop at the mention of "fireball" tells me you lack any sort of discerning capabilities.

Never play the gacha game. What does the gold brick do?

gbf.wiki/Gold_Brick

When Street Fighter does it it's ok.

Explain this go ahead

It's basically requiered to unlock the most powerful stuff and the availability is limited.

>the gold brick has more value than the actual game

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I literally dont care, If the game is fun and competitive then im fine with it

it buys you sex with any of the grubbles

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Laura's "fireball" works as a lite aegis reflector, they're slow enough that allows her to switch sides and cross the opponent up.

...

I’m not even the same guy though. I’m correcting you on your illogical statement of other. There is not “other” deal with it. Stop promoting the theory and ideology of a crackpot who pushed two young boys to suicide. And if you don’t know what I’m talking about, I suggest you read up on the man who invented gender theory.

That’s not a new archetype. That’s just a function added to her attack so she has something to set her apart. That’s like saying Ken isn’t a shoto cause his shoryuken is multihit and has a fire effect.

Is basically an Uncap for Weapons.
Weapons are used in a Grid of 10 (you use 1 as Main Hand for the MC).
And this GRID makes your characters more stronger depending on the Skill said Weapons have.
That being said, you can only get the strongest weapons from the gacha and to get a weapon to his maximum potential you need 4 copies of the same weapon or one copy and 3 Damascus bar/Gold bar.
Damascus bar only work on Weapons, Gold bars are more important early games because you need them to UNLOCK THE STRONGEST CHARACTERS IN THE GAME, and those characters are grindable so it isn't as P2W.

So it allows for crossup while its active. What do we call that in FG terms? A mixup. Which is exactly what Bullets fireball can do as well. A different type of mixup but a mixup nonetheless. Its slow, has fast recovery to allow for character movement, the charged up version is for combo extensions.

You gonna deny that or even better, try to again, pass it up as something completely different going by their trajectory rather than their purpose?
>one travels on air
>one travels to the ground
That's all you got. Now try again, refute it.

ill only buy it if they release Cagliostro

I don't fucking care about your trans problem, kys braindead faggot.

Don’t forget
>tries to use the visuals to carry them in the competitive side
>already a terrible idea
>new Guilty Gear trailer comes out
>completely shits on all of ASW visuals prior
>the new GG trailer managed to double the views of Granblue’s reveal in 6 days compared to Versus life time which was all the way back in December

This game is beyond fucked in its current position and it doesn’t have the street fighter name to have people to keep playing it, not buy it kind you cause their bonuses will do that just fine, but actually play it after that. I want them to fix it and fix it fast since Versus still has its potential, but there is zero faith of them living up to it now

>That’s like saying Ken isn’t a shoto cause his shoryuken is multihit and has a fire effect.
I hope you understand that function in Laura changes the way the character is played while also being one of the scariest part of the character while the multi hit of ken's dp and tatsu are pure flair.

No, it doesn’t change her significantly enough to change her archetype, you’re just being a pretentious twat about it cause you don’t wanna admit you were wrong.

It takes a LOT more than one move having a secondary property for a character to be of a different archetype. Fucking Blazblue characters had entire gimmicks tied to them, and even then you didn’t have people saying Ragna was a new archetype cause of his life steal, or Noel cause of her chain quazar. He was still a shoto-like balanced archetype and she was still a rushdown, despite their drives changing up the way the characters handle considerably compared to say Ryu or Cammy.

>So it allows for crossup while its active. What do we call that in FG terms? A mixup. Which is exactly what Bullets fireball can do as well. A different type of mixup but a mixup nonetheless. Its slow, has fast recovery to allow for character movement, the charged up version is for combo extensions.
Man you really don't have any arguments if you have to resort to calling them both "mixups" to end the discussion with no deeper insight.

I'll repeat it for you again, Laura is a fast grappler with a semi aegis reflector built in. That's a new archetype. Seth in SF4 had a fireball and a command grab but rub those 2 brain cells you have left and think what's the difference in him and laura.

I’m not the one with the trans problem, “otherfag” learn basic biology you dumb cuck.

>Laura is a fast grappler with a semi aegis reflector built in
That’s not a new archetype. She’s a speedy grappler with a projectile. Her projectile having unique properties is just “flair” as you put it. It doesn’t change the fact that she’s a speedy grappler with a projectile. Or is Bullet a new archetype as well cause of her drive? Fucking idiot.
>oh no, she’s just NOT a speedy grappler, she can chase down opponents with a homing function, it’s a new archetype
This is what you sound like you moron.

>These two guys are still going at it

> you’re just being a pretentious twat about it cause you don’t wanna admit you were wrong.
Lmao you can't tell the difference between a visual effect and a functional effect and want to call other people wrong.

PSO2 as well

Its actually 1 retard and 2 anons laughing at the retard.

>Iron Tager isn’t a grappler guys! He’s a new archetype, he can pull people to him with the power of magnets
>Terry Bogart isn’t a shoto-clone, his fireball travels along the ground changing up the way he plays significantly, he’s a new archetype
Fucking moron.

Worst part is that most of them will be obvious picks that should have been in the base roster to begin with. These morons actually managed to somehow exclude every character that has any real fan following not because of dev favorites. The character a majority of people actually like without needing that dev favoritism is Percival. We got a REALLY fucked up roster if having characters like Vira and Sandalphon would unironically make the roster more interesting. And I’m already mad to think Vira is already taking up a dlc slot and whatever other dev pushed characters instead before the ones people would genuinely enjoy. I thought they would understand this for a fighter that you don’t have to pick the most basic bitch characters especially for Granblue which honestly would have a stronger roster going off popularity polls which is not something you can say often.

>tfw spent 30$ so I could finally get Athena via suptix
I love her so much bros...

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>only 11 characters at release
what were they thinking
fucking dropped, call me when there's 30+ characters at least

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So, life steal, and chain quasar are visual effects and not mechanical functions? Gotcha. Nice to know you don’t play fighting games.

If you're a troglodyte who can't understand how Laura's fireball changes the way the character is played from every other character then there isn't much to talk about.
Let me guess Venom from GG is not a new archetype just because his fireballs have different properties.

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He’s not a new archetype, he’s a set-up based Zoner. He’s a unique take on it, but he’s not a new archetype. It seems you don’t understand what the word “archetype” means.

I was referring to him comparing Laura's slow moving fireball to Ken's fiery dp.
>Nice to know you don’t play fighting games.
Why do people have the need to throw this constantly in their arguments, very original.

Literally the only reason I’m getting this game. I don’t give a shit how big or small the roster is. I already have my main.

Man you still don't understand the difference between visual and functional effect, uhmaazing.

Yeah, the post you replied to didn’t mention Ken’s DP at all. You should read more carefully instead of strawmanning against arguments you can’t win.

Yeah, because last I checked Zangief had the power to pull people to him from across the screen.

Game is looking more based by the day

There is when there’s nothing interesting to it, it’s either bait the super/hold on to hit confirm into super. Wow there’s your entire depth, especially when even the fucking browser has more depth to its meter than versus and that’s just fucking sad. Everyone should have a unique self buff super like Ferry or a max mode ala KoF where it shuts down cooldowns of your specials for a bit

Doesn't his V-trigger let him do exactly that?

Let me guess for you there are only "zoner, rushdown, grappler" is that really how you look at every fg character?

>what is v-trigger 1

ARMPITS

Beta was fun and the 1 player mode also looks fun

>hear dlc characters are planned
>plan to buy game when the deluxe edition with all the characters in it
>lose interest in the game over time
anyone else do this? I haven't played SFV yet because of this.

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>Yeah, the post you replied to didn’t mention Ken’s DP at all.
He interjected a convo I was having with other user and tried to put a bunch of words in my mouth I just responded to the original point I was having with the original user.

I just want my Kamen Rider character and I have no doubt I'll get him

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So Zangief’s only iteration is SFV? A game that came AFTER Iron Tager was invented. Oh wait, let me guess, SFV Zangief is a new archetype guys, THAT’S it.

Seth can do that too

Exactly, he's not new because of the new gimmick, neither is Laura just because 1 retard said so.

And the original argument which got lost because of said retard is this: new doesnt always mean good. Whoever bitches about characters in this game playing like established archetypes doesn't know shit. Retard can attest to that with his hot takes.

fuck off pc cucks
i want it to be ps4 exclusive forever
i bought a ps4 and have literally no reason to touch it
it is getting dusty
gbfv is finally going to give me a reason to turn it on again

It means that Yea Forums posters have been proven wrong time and time again when they try to doompost a video game and say its dead.

>We got a REALLY fucked up roster if having characters like Vira and Sandalphon would unironically make the roster more interesting.
The current roster would get 10 times worse with Vira you fucking retard. NO ONE wants her.

>Whoever bitches about characters in this game playing like established archetypes doesn't know shit.
lmao a game with as much complexity as (1991) Street Fighter II. Too much gacha has fried your brains.

I can do this, consistently. You on the other hand, don't play fighting games if all you can think of is ways to downplay an FG before its even out.

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So are there people who unironically think its a black and white argument of "combos=complexity" or is this just an elaborate shitpost?

No, there are more archetypes than just those, and they can be either visual or mechanical. Like Glass Cannon or Ninja. You have Turtles like Guile as well, and Mixup characters, which can fall into a number of categories, but are typically more agreessive. You can also have archetypes based on a mechanic that defines a character. Like Rekkas. Or, characters that Transform, Charge their Meter like Order Sol, or the ever classic Mimic or Joke characters. Joke characters being either intentionally bad, or totally busted.

One good example is in Smash, Pichu was a joke character in Melee, and now he’s a Glass Cannon, despite having the exact same moveset.

Likewise, we can look at the classic double/duo/puppet character and see how it’s been done in all their iterations. From Eddie, to Carl, to Relius, to Celica, to Chaos, to Miss Fortune, to Rosalina and Luma, to the Ice Climbers, to every Jojo character in that Capcom Jojo fighter, you can see how much these characters have varied despite being part of the same archetype. Archetype is a means of categorizing a consistent trend, not something you “invent.” One look at the Ninjas in fighting games, and you’ll see that the archetype is predominantly visual given how different they all are.

Laura isn’t a “new archetype” she’s part of an existing archetype of speedy grapplers with projectiles. She’s no more different from her contemporaries than the Ice Climbers are from Eddie. Or Carl from Eddie if you’re gonna be a twat about Smash.

is it called granblue fantasy because the main characters name is gran and he wears blue

Vira at least has interesting gameplay potential with chevira

The name actually referrers to both the default names for the protag GRANblue FantasJIEETA

Does GBF have an english version? Can only find jp version on playstore

No she does not, that's literally the same argument that was used for ladiva. Stop making excuses to add forced garbage.

>Boober

this is your firs DLC character

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It's a browser game. Just go to the game's website and pick English as your language

Does she use the sword-and-shield or the gun? Either way, she's a lock.

> don't play fighting games
Award for most original comeback.
> if all you can think of is ways to downplay an FG before its even out.
I played the beta and I'll buy it in the future to play with my friends who don't play fgs, but yes I am downplaying it I expected a little more meat from Arcsys and if complexity wasn't the forte at least give me a huge roster, they're giving me neither so I really think my complaints are fair.

I wanted to upload footage of me playing Jam but the video is way too big.

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Based Ferrychad and with ArcSys shitty balancing, Ferry is going to stay at the top.

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What's fair is I won't have to suffer your existense in the game when I play online, thank fuck for that.

NO FARRAH
NO BUY

There can be more to complexity than just combos, things like parries, perfect guard, different options on the character select screen... GBvs has none of that.

Dude it's a fighting game for the gacha audience with autocombos and 1 botton specials, is it really that hard to believe?

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>Smash
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

The characters needed to save this game

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wouldn't it be simpler to just use google images to look at her instead of paying $60 for a game you won't play past a month?

Did you bother to read my comment at all? Maybe pay attention to the part that I mention that's on my buylist.

>secondary garbage

Literally everyone but people like you?

My wife is already in so I don't really care. I'm grabbing the game either way.
If anything, I was expecting to shove all the popular characters as DLC for maximum jewery. The only way to top that would be to throw in a gold brick for every season pass.

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But you'll be playing with your casual friends so you can bully them and flex right? Why go online and invest time if you hate it so much?

>perfect guard
it has it

Those two are already locks for a cahracter slot, base roster or no, as much as I hate to admit.

Oh I get it now. You’re one of those Granblue autists from /gbfg/. Yeah irrational hatred because of lesbians or whatever. Listen shit for brains Vira isn’t my first choice either, but you’re deluded to think in comparison to the current base roster that you can’t do something more interesting with her in comparison. Now fuck off and cry for more yousexuals or whatever you do

I don't hate it, I had fun playing Katalina in the beta. But with a new GG on the horizon that will take most of my fg play time.

It's basically worthless.

says you, who are you again?

It did? now I only remember the weird dodge move.

>mobile games company
If you didn't think this game was gonna be a quick cash grab you were out of your mind.
REMEMBER MONKEY.

It only grants extra super meter. Which is fine I guess, but meter gain was already fairly strong in the beta.

Complexity in a fighting game doesn't always come strictly from what's in the game. The game gives you things to use and the way the players interact with them and utilize them is a lot of the time where a game's complexity comes from. Its always premature to say that until a meta is worked out in a fighting game.

The amount of times people die in the demo build of GBFV to supers on block because they don't know that a just guard would have reduced chip and saved them or that Percival's skybound art is actually a fireball so you can cross over instead of guarding, tells me there's still a road to go until that point (of course since it's pre release as well, but still)

No. Because I can’t play as a picture. Your argument would work for gatchafags who collect jpgs. I’m not a gatchafag, and a fighting game character isn’t a jpg. I’ll enjoy beating people online with the sexy 13 fox girl, and then moving onto local play with friends once that dies. Plus, I live in Japan, if it gets an arcade release, I’ll have a chance to play in Akiba from time to time as well.

>adult woman
>13
Lmao Japan.

>Complexity in a fighting game doesn't always come strictly from what's in the game.
I swear I'm not being confrontational on porpoise I really don't know what type of explicit or hidden complexity are you referring to in this game, the dodge move might have some utility but combos are very streamlined, every special in the game is very straightforward and have been done in other fgs, there isn't some crazy universal mechanic like in UNIST.
Understand that I'm not saying the game isn't fun, I'm just saying that it's demonstrably true that this game ranks on the lower side of the complexity spectrum.

>The amount of times people die in the demo build of GBFV to supers on block because they don't know that a just guard would have reduced chip
I don't know I saw the evo tournament for the game and chip kills were very frequent.

I just hate shitty characters and it has nothing to do with lesbians you delusional paranoid retard. Grea is a decent NOT FUCKING ANNOING AND UGLY character and a lesbian.

Time for you to boycott the game then.

Based potato brain man. Charlotta was really cool, thought she would be weak just eyeballing the other characters but her walk speeds and her jump normals are really good

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>ANNOING
Maybe
>AND UGLY
Now you're just being gay. I don't even like blondes.

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Ok retard

Feels good to never care about character count when your favorite characters/mains always get in.

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>I don't know I saw the evo tournament for the game and chip kills were very frequent.
That's what I am saying, the chip kills that happen are avoidable but it didn't happen because either people didn't know or weren't good enough to do them yet. Avoiding chip kills will be another layer to the game that people need to learn, there are only one or two definite situations where death was unavoidable and that was from players finding unblockable setups, mainly on Ferry and Lancelot

I want to bully her so much!

>Complexity in a fighting game doesn't always come strictly from what's in the game.
>The game gives you things to use and the way the players interact with them and utilize
That is literally things within the game. You can only use what is in the game, your number of possible interactions is limited to what options are in the game and how they interact. If you have less systems and/or options you have less ways to interact. This does in fact make the game simpler. There being variability in players doesn't change that, they only have so much to work with. The fact that the argument over GBV's complexity always devolve to we just don't know, rather than here is a long list of unique things that could occur speaks volumes.

>because they don't know that a just guard would have reduced chip
Pretty sure it doesn't. It just builds meter. If you have solid evidence it does more though I'd like to see it.

>people here are now trying to push chip kills as some unique major level of complexity to the game that’s even worth mentioning at all
This game is fucked

Most likely they are having trouble trying to find balance for a grappler in this kind of game. In beta poking was king and anti airs were strong as fuck so there was little point to jumping besides in a few rare situations

What's the meaning of that pic? She plays like Akuma?

She’s the E Honda function with a demon flip.

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Anybody else remember when you had to pay $60 for balance patches and maybe one or two new characters? Of course you don't. I'll take DLC bullshit over being forced to buy the same game over and over.

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Is Zeta a thirsty gyaru cockslut for Me?

>trying to push chip kills as some unique major level of complexity to the game

New and unique? No, not really. But if you're playing the game and find yourself with a smidge of health left against a character with EX moves and skybound meter on deck, knowing how and when to avoid chip damage is going to be a part of the game you need to understand to win, mainly knowing how to just guard and when to evade instead of just blocking. Its a fact of how the game is going to be played, don't understand why that makes you so upset

dont fuck your bro, bro

Can any GBfags tell me why they picked that character for grappler? Are there no other viable options? That is probably the lamest grappler in any fighting game ever.

>Anybody else remember when you had to pay $60 for balance patches
Sure. But then a lot of games waited till a later arcade version till they did a port, so you'd get a lot more characters and time for them to develop content. SC2 gave me an RPG mode and a full cast.

You are the faggot here if you unironically like that.

She had new content lined up so they went with some synergy.

You're one of the retards who keeps taking it in the ass from corporations

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>he fact that the argument over GBV's complexity always devolve to we just don't know, rather than here is a long list of unique things that could occur speaks volumes.
No the argument I'm putting here is about how players interact with the mechanics being key to a game's complexity rather than the mechanics themselves. Every game has players at the low levels playing differently than those at the top level because of how they choose to interact with the game which then defines in the public eye how a game is played

Not really in the grand picture of things, but one of her moves is an adjusted version of Akuma's demon flip where she can do a motion to jump into the air and then have options to either land and do nothing, do an overhead slash, cross up and do a low attack or stick to you and do an air throw

Pass

high iq post

More or less, GBF has tons of martial artists, but only Ladiva really qualifies as a grappler besides the MCs Luchador class.
Plus they released an SSR version with the announcement.

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Granblue has an actual Akuma you know.

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You can't just reply to your post an hour later and give it a (you) for your self confidence, buddy

>is about how players interact with the mechanics being key to a game's complexity rather than the mechanics themselves.
That isn't completely true though. The mechanics are the confines they have to work inside, a hard limit exists even inside flexible mechanics. And what is here really doesn't seem that flexible, it actually seems very restrictive. Something like an ex fireball in neutral is something you won't see, as it completely kills your zoning game. You are left with a simpler choice of go in or stop zoning after. Whereas in most fighters it can form part of it. Just saying the players will figure stuff out comes off as a cop-out. Rather than looking at systems and seeing how they don't offer that much.

You also still haven't confirmed Just Defend does stop chip, which is a centre to your other argument.

Because an odd ~40 people playing in all of Yea Forums playing fighting games doesn't save the rest from judgment

>I’m already mad to think Vira is already taking up a dlc slot and whatever other dev pushed characters instead before the ones people would genuinely enjoy
People enjoy Vira. Why are you mad?

thanks for the (you) shizofag.

Same, although I could use some more beef and potatoes.

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It's pain in the ass every time there's a disagreement about fighting games and people start using that as their core argument.
At least use it when someone obviously has no idea of how they work, like one time I saw a guy saying that fighting games don't have reactable moves, meaning he didn't understand that in 2d fighters you always block low and every overhead has enough start up that fits into the average reaction time.

Good job retard.

Good to know you gave up after I shut you down though.

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>using his phone and pretending it's another user
embarrassing

I mean, in the grand scheme of things, most of Yea Forums would rather post tits than play games, much less fighters. They're not wrong

>making excuses

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There are two issues that really hit me with this. First is that if the roster is meant to be bitch basic why the fuck can't I play Rackam? Okay you want a really simple obvious start, give me fucking Balthier. The base crew have potential and need to be introduced properly to a wider audience. With them all in (including Lecia and Noa) we'd be at 16 which would be a comfy base roster.

Second is missing so many obvious picks mean no wild picks can get in. We sure as shit aren't getting Sevilbarra or Lamretta any time soon. I get neither had much of a chance, but everyone had their handful of fun picks that could really add something to the game. Vira should be in the game, I don't care about her but there are many that do. Yet realistically she lack much potential outside a shoto with an install. So that is one DLC down who is probably adding fuck all to the game. Maybe in 2 years this game will have characters I want to play.

>still moving the goalposts
nice cope

>still moving the goalposts
You must be confusing me with another user

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Even if I was a samefag you were completely BTFO from his post about archetypes. You can't recover from that.

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Not the same user.

>PAID DLC HELL YEAH
the absolute state of Yea Forums

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Based mental illness anons

seek help

how is that any better than just the simple rule of "most people sucks at most things, only few are excellent"?
i mean even most people in /vg/ suck dick following that logic, and it's probably true, so why not just say that instead of implying Yea Forums is somehow a special case

seething gbfg tranny

Make no mistake /vg/ is worse than Yea Forums in this regard

Grapplers can be strong at keepaway too, a grappler may be slow, but must have good normals, or be very mobile but with bad normals.

You fuckers are the reason why Guilty Gear is now going to go down the same path as any other series that becomes mainstream.

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Charlotta is so fucking sexy. Can you imagine the smells that linger in those boots? I CAN'T WAIT TO LICK CHARLOTTA'S SMELLY FEET!

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If Ladiva has any kind of armor on startup for his abilities he will be so good with how this game works. Being able to dash, cancel into roll into a command throw with armor sounds mad scary for closing the distance

I always thought Arcsys made dbfz and granblue in order to fund the next gg.

>It's means "don't say shit you know can't take back."
everyone is anonymous here, what difference does what you said months ago even make?

bullshit/20

It's the trannies that like vira you idiot

twitter.com/ArcSystemWorksU/status/1159654937699086336
Straight from their mouths.

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I seriously don't understand what point you're even trying to make. Are you another one of those DAISUKE IS DUMBING DOWN GUILTY GEAR retards that's never actually played GG?

>we have an accumulation of the plentiful resources and experience.
It literally proves my point.

Is this Zooey? It looks off for some reason

I WILL MAKE IDOL ZOI HAPPEN EVEN IF I HAVE TO FUND HER MYSELF

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Artist fucked up her turnip hair.

Shhhhh, dont talk about it.

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Who are your never evers that you wish had a chance?

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Grea
Sen
Scathacha

What can I say? I just want someone to be a Wolverine function.

Shame he's a Harvin without a big hat like Box so there's literally zero chance of him ever getting in.

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How is 1 player mode worthless?

because sfv said so

wtf is sfv

Cause it is for people who really just want Relink and won't stick with GBV. Single player is fine, but at such an expense to the main game is a bad move. The whole point should be an solid expansive base, with extra content to pull people in and hopefully get them playing online and at locals.For all the talk of single player matters, Tekken 7 is growing the best out of any fighter and selling better than T6 despite completely shit single player.

Plus modes like that tend to end up grindy and boring. Every recent hyped up single player ends up being called a time waster by the people who demanded it. Even smash players who ended up cheating their way to unlocking everyone with a glitch.

why the fuck would i want to play with a bunch of losers online OR at locals? single player is king, and fighting games need to die again.

stone fold veveaustin

I hate loli in general, but I fucking love Scathacha

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Super Fighting Variable-Geo

its not, its just what seething fgc niggers keep saying about every game

Super Fighting Voltron

I WANT RELINK ALREADY CYGAMES
JUST GIVE IT TO ME ALREADY
PLEASE

oh right, forgot you guys have a hardon for the potatoes and sandal

Post more Zooey
I want her in Relink so fucking bad

I got you senpai

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Only 11 characters at launch, even more jew than SamSho.

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Lol I Zooey makes me uncomfortable

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*loli
Shit

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I wish there was more art of the Granblue girls in all sorts of different clothing like the Fate girls get.
I wanna see Zooey in modern anime fashion too

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What's wrong with her proportions
This image was almost really cute

Ladiva is prety much the only real grappler in the franchise, the only other character they could've reworked as a grappler was Sara with Graphos.

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>and while very varied functions.
I wouldn't go that far, the sfv cast played much too similarly

nice spine

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I mean Vira should have been in the base roster and not being a parasite taking up a potential dlc slot for a season which is 5 right now

rarely happens, but we got this

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that
Was she even in the race?
>tfw got the 2019 one

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Oh God, that's so cute
What is it from?

Samsho let you have the season pass for free without owning the game and secondly they added another character to said season pass for completely FREE as well. So of course it’s way less jewey than samsho

not the race, one of the free quests, where Walder gets Cag, Zoi, Siero and Vyrn to dress as sentai
GBF twitter, their art team has been putting out some bonus art for a few months now, celebrating stuff like live events, holidays etc

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She would be taking up a slot from these other "genuinely enjoyable characters" all the same by being in the base roster.

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I'll be only picking it up on pc so hopefully s1 is out by then
16 is acceptable I guess but s1 should be free anyway

No one plays fighting games on PC online. Please stop with this.
Go look at how quickly the communities die after a month or two

t. faggot coping with paying annual fees to sony for deader and lower quality games

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I only play on PC, I only watch stuff on PC, I only talk (by typing) to people on PC. The only other electronic with a screen I use is the cellphone, to listen music, use Yea Forums in the toilet, and to call my mother once a month.

There’s a difference between taking up a slot in the base roster when most people assume that’ll be the safe picks anyway, and then taking from the more finite dlc path which should be saved for more fun picks or fan picked. Percival is in the same boat as Vira. I don’t mind Percy in the base roster but him being as one of the only dlc characters we might get for an entire year out of the 5 I wouldn’t be as complacent in. And that’s Vira situation right now. I don’t want a season pass of characters everyone expected to be in the base roster to begin with because nobody expected cygames to be this retarded to think this was a smart idea

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PC is literally always the most resilient community for niche fighting games.

So why did they have Yuisis's VA at the last FES if they didn't announce anything?

>KOF
literally all KOF players are on fightcade on PC, its impossible to play KOF on any other platform

What do you mean? She has been part of the stream cast in other past streams
She just does a lot of work for cygames

I want the evolite, that is much rarer right now.

I was banking on Yuisis's announcement for Versus. A stance-switching character would be fantastic, and Yuisis would be a surprising, niche pick.

she looks so cute and very funny

If there is a stance switching character it will probably be Naru.

Yuisis has her chances to get in but Naru can also probably fill the stance change character

user why did you stop posting

That's what I mean when I say "niche"; if Cygames were to introduce a stance-switching character Naru would likely be the pick given her popularity.

Based and boxpilled.

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What the fuck is that surprise pick suppose to even mean now. They made that comment after Ladiva and all that was left were the boring obvious choices. Was it another lie or is there like an unlockable character like Siete or something

Yeah, I'm thinking it's a 12th unlockable but who knows

was putting a big nut inside Zoi

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youtube.com/watch?v=vXbXeW7ZyCQ

for anyone following this retarded conversation. this is laura's slow-moving fireball.

Sorry but my nut is for her only

my nut for her is bigger

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just fyi i've never played this character and barely played the game so i have no idea how hard this is to do. showing inputs probably would prove your point if it's actually complex.

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But she's my waifu user, you can't take her from me

>more dlc than the base cast
>GG is also next year
rip this game

don't even argue that their core usage and roles are completely identical. katalina's unique actions are at least actually interesting unlike gran's.

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Maybe if it is that it’s the antagonist unlock because if you look at the roster you notice there’s literally no bad guy or opposing force to the roster or story mode which is based on the main story beyond primal boss fights and those aren’t usually your end fight without some other fuck on their sides using the power or something along the way. It’s a weird ommition since nobody in the current roster has any reason to fight rah other beyond hey bro your my rival but still my friend shit. Maybe Sturm and Drang duo unit unlock hopefully

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there's nothing wrong with having a uninteresting meter. it's usually charged up late in the match and mostly used as a way to have a flashy finish. they could just not have a meter and you beat the opponent with some normals and specials, but at that point there's no real reason to not have a "finisher" meter, either.
also you can bait any move not just supers, so that's not really a point. it's just another move in the toolset to utilize how you can. for example, charlotta's super hits anything above her which could be used for some weird anti-air shit.

>announcement completely flops
gacha retards are flipping out about the faggy knight that's being added and are "just now going to get the game" because of the RPG mode.

it's gonna be loki

This. GG certainly has their A team working on it, so GBVS is getting the shovelware team.

That would be a genuine surprise 100% so I don’t believe it

Welp, this is it Yea Forums, think i'm just gonna end it here, I dont think I can take this shit anymore.
>epstien shit has me freaking out
>just lost 3k in stocks
>family wants to kill me
>keep hearing niggers and homos giggling 10 feet from my window every night
>get gang stalked every single day
>older brother has recently came out as a tranny and has admitted he has sexual feelings for me
Since you guys have always been my favorite board, and kept me entertained. I'll return the favor. I'll be streaming my suicide in about 10 minutes. In the mean time, I shall answer any questions, suggestions, etc

>inb4 go out in a blaze of glory
No, not going to ruin other peoples lives.
>inb4 why dont you make your own thread
ISP is blocked or some shit. so just posting this in first thread i see.
>inb4 is there anything i can do to change your mind
Nope, its Happening.

stream URL and quick rundown:
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See you all soon.
~AGW

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>not interested at all in base cast
No buy

Sen has a decent chance as a dlc character

All they had to do was cut most of the males and add the lewd females especially draphs. No female draphs on day 1 is a fucking travesty.

Did you make a discord just to bring attention to you being paranoid and suicidal?

KMR is my dad, believe it

I'd kill you if I saw you

arcsys really pulled a fast one on them but they seem to be doing a good job of sitting themselves in the foot

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Indeed. Worst part is Versus could easily stand on its own even with a new gg just fine if it wasn’t for cygames terrible decisions.

>Ky already prettier than any GB male
How did they obsolete their own game in so many ways.

The new GG could literally be Sol vs Ky the most basic characters in these games and they would still have more depth than the entire versus roster. I’m really sad about this.

Macho Vyrn will be playable as free DLC on april 1st.

What is Guilty Gear Rev 2’s online population like on PS4? Is it worth buying on sale right now

Small but dedicated, it’s the most alive anime fighter that’s not Dragonball if that means anything to you. Also depends on the sale. I’d say it’s worth the shot if it’s like 20 right

It’s 15 for me right now

Oh yeah go for it for sure then

What if the DLC characters aren't in fact DLC and can be obtainable by playing story mode by grinding crystals to roll an in-game gacha with a 1% chance of obtaining the character

Who the fuck is that, and does...it have the moon light greatsword

The thing on the top right at 0 seems something like a gacha but it just might be for colors

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>GGfags

like clockwork

kill yourselves

Those are weapons in that icon and those weapons look like Bahamut weapons from the browser game that you farm

Well, the single player definitely has gacha for weapons and Arcsys has done gacha for color palettes and stickers in the online lobbies for a while now.

Or for weapons for the RPG mode.

>game purchase include a digital code that allows you your choice between dama crystals, gold bar, sunstone or evolite
This is going to top charts for a weekend because of the Grubble codes that are included, but as an espawrts fightan gaem it'll be dead.
and now you know why there's no female draph in the release roster, either. They're gonna be DLC.

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It will probably be alive in Japan but fucked everywhere else
They also have been really slow with the evolite restock and that's probably part of the reason

Cope gachaslave. Demand better

Go back to doomposting about your own game being put further into the grave because your based Daisuke is a retard

Filthy cuckold

GG is an embarrassing game

Seethe

You are sad

fuck off toddler

Cope

mad

you say as your "beloved" franchise crumbles into ashes around you lol!

haha embarassing

typical western gamer post

lmao!!!

low iq and triggered

They hated him because he told them the truth.

Not being a full female draph roster (the most popular race) will be the main reason this garbage flops.

Fuck you. GG is the most respected fighting game in the FGC. Stick to granbabby or babbyblue, kid.

>all these responses one minute apart
Is this ironic or

Gachafags are cancer. They wouldn't last 2 seconds in guilty gear.

People joked about how hard they'd moneyhat the game like they did with Shadowverse, but if Cygames actually starts dropping big cash prizes for GBFV tourneys then it'll be a fun year of watching people force themselves to be interested in the game

>tfw I'm going to get GG 2020 and GBFVS

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They said they’re going to start out small, but even then small for them still could be large in general. It just sucks since this game is shaping up to be anime sfv even in terms of playerbase reception

Would never happen unless they can find a constant stream of funds like gbf or sv.

Their gacha literally is a constant stream of funds.

I’m going to as well. I just want Versus however to live up to its actual potential as a title, which it’s not there yet.

>haha there's NO WAY someone could ACTUALLY like a game that I (ME ME ME ME ME) don't like! That is LITERALLY impossible! Hahaha!

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More like I watched people jump onto the UNIst bandwagon hard over an EVO announcement and I want to see it happen even harder since the game is guaranteed to be there

But they're also making an anime and an JRPG. They also need to make up for their homo months too.

This but unironically. Faggot NPCs should get a grip.

They just need Gold Bar codes and they can make their cash back and some more.

Unfortunately they need to have the game actually keep players interested for most players so that they'll have an incentive to buy their Evolites

But they also need to push the characters who will show up in Versus in the mobage. And most of them aren't popular.

Dumbass, the anime was shat on by everyone but it still topped charts all because of gold bars. What do you think Evolites, which the max anyone has at the moment is 3, would do?

cope more doomposter

post yaias

The anime had the gold bars, two MC skins, and a limited SSR.

>he didn't see how well the Ladiva month did
Oh nononono.

What about Uma Musume and Zombieland Saga which were also loaded with gold bars? Those topped charts as well. You can't argue that no one will buy the game because it sucks when whales are willing to buy expensive BDs of crap anime just for some in-game items.

They don’t need to worry about longevity in terms of anime blu ray sales. That’s a one and done deal. The sales are guaranteed but beyond that the game itself needs to stand on its own legs

Reading comprehension is your friend user. What I said was that the game itself is popular GBFV can't rely on it to keep afloat. Because the game itself has its own share of problems.

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Whoa how did you unlock time travel in real life, friend?

What you said was that they need the game to keep interest so there's an incentive to buy Evolites, which I've repeatedly said is a dumbass statement because from previous cases, the whales bought the damn thing because of those items. They could just sell an Evolite for 60 dollars and the whales would still buy it regardless.

It's logic dumbass. If the game is to do well or has to be able to stand on its own two feet, it can't rely on the main gatcha game to keep it afloat. It's not at all similar to the anime.

yes!

It's circular logic on one hand you can claim that they can use the Gatcha game to keep people interested in Versus, but the truth is that only works once. Cygames obviously wants Versus to stick around unlike the anime where they just needed people to buy the discs and be done.

And they can't push the characters in Versus onto the playerbase since they aren't popular.

The roster is so bad I won't buy the game even if DLC saves it.
>11 character roster
>two fucking homoknights
>no female draphs
>no primals
>almost everyone uses sword, spear, or fist
>somehow have no gun or katana user
>no staff, harp, dagger, etc.
Honestly, how did this even get approved? It does an absolutely piss poor job representing the series.

Main roster will have a good breadth of the weapons from the series and guns aren't even that prominent. Primals are also in the game. One of the Homo knights had to get in with how popular they are and if you're going to have one, you need at least another to play the dynamic out to its maximum potential. Lance and Percy work out the best

No Female Draphs? Yeah, but we still get to see Ferry and Metera which is better for the cultured individuals anyway

stop using google translate to post

They’re releasing this game without Vira. Virafag or not cause I’m not, still says either they took a gamble and felt like they were forced to release the roster like this, or cygames genuinely are just batshit insane and not in the fun way.

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you are a schizo

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Mahira DLC WHEN

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You'd better define what you mean by 'do well'. If you mean sales, then you're dead wrong. If you mean having an active playerbase that compete in tournaments and online, then you'd be correct... For the most part. Shadowverse has an active tournament circuit internationally despite the meta constantly fucking itself up the ass, and the the highest tier decks constantly require people to put money into rolling Legendary cards every format. It's P2W. But people still keep playing, and why? Because of a million dollar pot.

I won't make assumptions and say the pot is enough to keep the GBVS scene alive, but if a million dollars is enough to keep a shitty card game alive, do you think it'll do the fighting game any good?

ook eek try speaking like a real human bean

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It's somewhat representative, in how slanted towards Sabers the game's units are. Just look at the breakdown of characters who benefit from an Ultima Sword instead of, like, an Ultima Spear. If you don't have the CORE fire team then why even make an ultima spear ha ha who the fuck uses speer besides Shiva, Sheep and Athena? And don't even think about an axe shit I think only Salsa would benefit ha ha ha oh no axe

Literally nothing I responded to you with in the first post was evidence of me being an ESL. However you were so triggered that someone would challenge the retarded inner workings of your smoothbrain that you resorted to a schizophrenic post to cope

ook esl kun don't be mad

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Not sure why is this even a surprise considering it's fucking gachashit company funding it and all.

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Not him, but how well it did?

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The other viable grappler is Gran himself, which is already a unit.
I would have loved that tho.

>puppet grappler
That would have been awesome. They better do that as dlc and not be lazy about it

I need a big tiddy draph gf

>we are in the reality that somehow neither of the alchemy duo are in versus

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Her sword looks like a popsicle

>guns aren't even that prominent
I can name you a shit ton of popular gun users

>two of them are even in your main crew
What is he smoking

This dirty old man was supposed to be a guarentee dammit.

You actually think Rackan and Eugen are popular? I think you're the one smoking and not that guy.

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character with gun that is popular =/= character is popular because of gun

>all these (you)'s
god damn, gacha salt is real.

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Cope doomposter

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Granblue in general is one of those series where you fap to the good porn but never actually play their games. Like with Fate.

Eustace is pretty damn popular though.

I'd mating press a potato

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Oh I don't doubt that at all. He's literally core fujos. Hell, if we're actually talking about actual popular gun user then Eustace would be my first pick as well.

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>character with gun that is popular =/= character is popular because of gun
And sword characters are not popular because they have swords.

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very based

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I love you user

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thanks

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Got any Zooey lewd?

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the ones by ASGO are the best

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