Is Valve washed up?

I think they should just stick to improving Steam, lately their games seem to inevitably fail, except Alien Swarm, that game was fun

The way they gauge your value to the team is beyond retarded

You get scored monthly on how much the other members of the team deem your productivity. You're not clocked for how much you're actually there. So its a popularity contest where you constantly should work on the thing everyone is working on

>twitch views
please slice your own throat

>>Using twitch as a guage for success

It's a good way to gauge things.

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The new matchmaking update for Dota 2 is great, everyone I know loves the change.

oh no no no

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>Will we see the fall of a giant in our lifetime?
Does steam still makes money?

kill yourself you low iq shill

I'd actively root for them going bankrupt if it wasn't the case that they hold my steam library hostage

Nobody actually plays their assigned role because the same update has a bug that made reporting players impossible. Merging party and solo MMR has flooded matchmaking with "ancient 7" players that were archon solo. Combine the two and everyone in divine/immortal is being paired with players that are not qualified to play in their bracket.

Reminder that it's be in steady decline.

I made this image awhile ago, and it used to be at a steady 100k.

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>11.8k viewers
>Washed up
Zoomer detected

>gay discord thread

Why is Underlords losing when it's a much better game than TFT? I'm genuinely confused

based doombros
how's dug nowadays

>30% cut from sales
Why bother making game when they're making bank selling other people's game.

Most, if not all the popular autochess streamer went onto TFT

It didn't help that at launch, Underlords was a piece of shit game, like really bad so it turned a lot of people off. It's better now, but it wasn't at launch

Has been for years.

Ok what else are we going to use as success? Lets look at all the succesfull games valve is releasing, oh wait, the last good game they had that was an original IP was portal. Everything else flopped catastrophically. Except Dota. Dota is literally the only game that keeps them afloat, and to a minor degree CS. Which to be fair is an updated game more than 10 years old now.

Legit made me uninstall dota. I played around 15 games with the new matchmaking. And every single one of them was a catastrophy. Even when winning the quality of games is absolute dog shit. And lets just ignore the fact they decided to go towards the LoL forced meta.

Dedicated Autochess players are playing the actual Autochess.
Casual players are playing TFT.
Nobody wants to play Underlords because Valve is doing a horrendous job at balancing it.

>Experimental update is broken

Epic Store has already replaced Steam as the digital distributor of choice

"popularity contests" are often the right to do things. if you succeed in life in lots of contexts ends up being a popularity contest. for instance, releasing a successful game is a popularity contest. do you think it shouldnt be one? shouldnt the games that most people want to spend money on be the games that people spend the most money on?

>Mandatory experiment with your entire playerbase's ranked mode
Big brain decision there

>has more players p[laying ul than other gaychess games >losing
are you an idiot?

Can't be worse than riot.
TFT actually has more rng than the original

Read my post a second time.

Every big success Valve has had has been from them being pioneers and breaking ground with new ideas. Now they just chase trends and not only do people hate them for it, they aren't even good at it.

I don't have to read shit
delete your awful thread and tell your discord friends to stop shittying up the board

>And lets just ignore the fact they decided to go towards the LoL forced meta.
They're not forcing anything. The same three core meta has been in the game since dota 1 days, and they're not forcing you to go 2-1-2 like in League of Legends. Trilanes still exist, or maybe even a 2-1-1 with roaming support.

Don't hace to buy sclaped ticket for TI Mr.Zhang?

I'm not being paid for bugtesting

Valve employee spotted

Every game play patch is a experiment too.
We are nothing but icefrog lab rats

Design by committee gives you Artifact

stop shitposting and leave the board

>Epic Store has already replaced Steam as the digital distributor of choice

Steam drones may not like hearing this, but it's true.

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nothing i said has anything to do with design by committee. are you retarded?

They are going towards it. They are focing a midlane - offlane - hard carry - soft support - hard support.

Even if it were just que by farm priority, it would be slightly constrictive but still doable. But you actually force people into roles now.

>Illiterate
>Angry
>Sub-70 IQ
Hi Gabe Newell, tough day at work, huh?

>literally delete this

Retardation beyond belief, Epic Store is the ONLY platform you can get the game on for PC and console players are luddites who still prefer physical copies.

>its this shitty thread again
neck yourself tranny

What do you think happens when everyone is peer pressured into working on the same project. You get a design by committee game aimed at making money first and being good second.

Being assigned to a project is one thing, being told you can work on anything BUT will be shunned if you don't work on that project just gives you bitter employees hating the cashgrab game they have to work on

Why are Steam drones so cringe?

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Player are the one doing it.
When Valve starts patching the game so 2-1-2 is the only viable playstyle with heroes only being able to fit one role, then I will believe you

Cope

SAY IT WITH ME:
FLAT HIERARCHY

EARN 80K A YEAR STRESS FREE
JUST MAKE A (((GAME))) OUT OF A POPULAR MOD
CALL IT WORK
GABE TRUSTS HIS EMPLOYEES

Console players are 50/50 on digital to physical purchases int he west.

Flip this around and it is now true.

> You get a design by committee game
no you dont. theres no reason to assume that stack ranking leads to design by committee. each team has a leader and the leader of the project makes decisions and people decide to work under that leader and follow his ideas, just like in a normal company. the only difference is that people can switch between projects freely, but within a project it isnt some kind of anarchy otherwise nothing would get done.

>being told you can work on anything BUT will be shunned if you don't work on that project just gives you bitter employees hating the cashgrab game they have to work on
there are plenty employees at valve working on random shit that few people work on or care about. you just dont see it because you probably dont pay attention to the tech that valve produces and you only care about games

>>NOOOOO THIS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN

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because auto chess gets boring after a 2weeks it was never going to be lasting trend, tft is dropping too

Cringe so drones Steam are why?

Done

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>Plenty of people
I can name all the people working on TF2 right now.
>EricS (unfirable)
>Driller (only one allowed to talk with anyone else at Valve)
>Jill (diversity hire)

Based

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like i said, you only care about games. its fine to only care about games. but when youre trying to criticize a company as a whole, especially a company whos biggest success isnt a game (steam is a platform, like amazon or facebook), then you need to start looking at what theyre producing as a whole and not only games

Compared to the 99% on PC? As I said, luddites.

>players are the ones doing it

WOOOW You must be an observational genious. Let me guess, in LoL the players had nothing to do with the enforced meta, the devs one day came up with the best way to play right?

Ofc the players are doing it, and valve is pushing them into it bit by bit. Why? Because the less options you have strategy wise the easier it is to get into the game. That is why they are pushing roles on heroes in their descriptions because the game is hard. And the more you simplify the ideas behind how to play it the easier it is to get someone new in it. But because you simplify things these new players cant thing for themself, so you over time end up with literal npcs, and i dont mean the ironic term npc being thrown around, but actual people who just read what the game tells them and are fine with that, not a single independent thought required.

What someone picked dazzle mid, report and move on, dazzle is a support as clearly shown in the description, oh what? He hard counters their melee mid? Does not matter, its a support. Back to the sidelanes.

Same thing is happening with lanes. Enemy last picks brood and would shit on you, so i move mid with a support to effectively 2v1 her denying her lvl 2 effectively shitting on her early and mid game.

Que a barrage of GTFO of my lane, shitter, bad gank, go support sidelane, stop stealing xp. I was high mmr, not top 1000 players high, but high enough for this shit to not happen before the matchmaking changes. Now i had morons who could not think 5 seconds ahead in every single game.

EVERY SINGLE GAME. 4 out of 5 people on my team were absolute morons. And guess what, same thing on the enemy team. Which resulted in absolute garbage no fun games, even if i won them.

>Xi getting BTFO by japan as we speak
>still hasn't pulled his forces off a Norwegian basket weaving forum

Xi is finished

Steam had one of the worst sales ever recently, burying indies for the big name AAA titles like Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty. It was impossible to discover ANYTHING

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Steam hasn't had ANY competition until last year, and Epic is making enormous progress coming out of literally nothing.

Who cares about Twitch? The #10 highest viewer count on twitch right now is literally porn.

...why do you care?

*makes your game unplayable in mandatory update following DRM server shutdown*
nothin personnel... digital...

and then right after that they introduced steam labs. dilate discord tranny

thanks for the post tim

>They introduced VR shit after the VR trend died
...what does that prove?

Steam's official player count numbers aren't that great either, pretty poorly actually. I actually don't understand why its called Dota Underlords, when like 2 months later now the actual Underlords who will have gameplay balance implications aren't even in the game yet.

What? CSGO was on the verge of death until Valve took the reins themselves

jesus christ dude at least be aware of what the people you hate so much are doing store.steampowered.com/labs/

>and then right after that they introduced steam labs

Any proof that people use this?

One of the reasons the discovery queve worked in previous sales was that you got cards for searching for games. You didn't get anything for using the queve this sale. What an utter failure.

They've only made steam worse in the last couple of years too. Greenlight was a shitshow, the constant updates to the friends system is just fixing what isn't broke

And yes, this is a videogame board. I dont give a rat's nutsack about their tech shit if it means killing HL, starving tf2, fucking up dota and daring to show up with a cardgame after years of complaints

*pirates game back*
nothin personnel, locked down systems

>>Interviews say they're struggling to hire people because of their reputation for shitty work environment driving everyone off

Any links for this? genuinely curious what is being said on this matter. I know they're shitty to work at due to rumours.

Epic made one of the worst stores ever recently, burying their store for the nth time. It is impossible to like ANYTHING

valve invented VR shit

yada yada, its always the same. "they let games in the store and made me decide which games i should buy instead of deciding for me? waaaahhh valve so mean i dont want to choose just feed me more games waaaaah" fucking retarded cunt

literally everyone reacted positively to it so no reason to assume people dont use it

First point:
>Allow garbage on to store
>Do not filter it
>Now consumer confidence is dead because making a preferable decision is much more difficult
Second point:
>Nobody even noticed

>literally everyone reacted positively to it so no reason to assume people dont use it

Yes yes, the Steam drones like it. Any proof that the average Steam user uses it though?

>87 replies
>33 posters
obsessed

That was the chucklefuck living in his mom's basement that sold everything to Facebook the moment he saw the check.

>>Now consumer confidence is dead because making a preferable decision is much more difficult
if "consumer confidence" was dead theyd be picking that up in their stats as people buy less and less games. im assuming that steam is still growing massively which is why they decided to keep going in this direction.

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Why do you think they made steam labs (a filter on the games you see)? It's an attempt to stop the bleeding.

that does not support
>>Interviews say they're struggling to hire people because of their reputation for shitty work environment driving everyone off

kotaku.com/super-meat-boy-is-the-latest-port-to-sell-better-than-e-1822056498

>The Switch though has seen a number of ports sell better than anticipated. Despite already being out for over three years, the Switch version of Shovel Knight sold better than any of the other versions at launch according to its developer, Yacht Club Games. Wonder Boy: The Dragon’s Trap, Forma.8, and other games have seen similar success. SMG Studios noted in September that Death Squared sold more on the Switch in the first three days than all other platforms it released on combined, while the same thing happened to the Zelda-like exploration game Oceanhorn. And then there was SteamWorld Dig 2, Immage & Form’s action platformer that sold 10 times more on Switch than on Steam.
>that sold 10 times more on Switch than on Steam.

NOOOOO THIS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN - EVERYONE LOVES STEAM AND LOVES DIGGING THROUGH SHITTY GAMES FOR THE GOOD ONES

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>Why do you think they made steam labs
because there are enough people complaining online that running an experiment to see if they would like it is probably worth it. theyll decide if the experiment worked or not if people are actually using the tool or not. if they decide it didnt work then theyll probably shut it down or stop updating it, and if they decide that it works then theyll keep improving it

>Company has a lot of complaints from users
>This does not indicate poor performance

But Steam has had tons of filters, what's one more that'll fix anything?

you should understand that when you have 150 million users, 0.05% of them complaining amounts to a lot of people and a lot of noise. you shouldnt assume that a bunch of retards complaining here and on reddit actually have any effect on things at all. sometimes it is the case that they do, but a lot of the times they dont.

are you dumb? valve is the company in the world with the highest profit per employee, so people have this notion that only the best of the best can get in. so the quote is pointing to the fact that people in the industry often think that valve only hires super good people, not that people weed themselves out because they think its a shitty work environment

Make this thread again in a few weeks when TI is happening

If that's not a significant amount of users, why did Valve respond to it?

its called steam labs. its an experiment. have you played portal? the robot does experiments because it likes doing experiments. thats valve

Dude you're retarded, or you don't understand what Riot is doing with meta enforcement in League of Legends. What you're describing has literally existed for Dota's entire existence.

That's not Valve enforcing meta like Riot is with LoL. Riot literally bans you from the game for doing what you describe in your post.

imagine Yea Forums with no chinese propaganda

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>any anti valve sentiment is now chink propaganda
What were you boogeymanning before Epic?

Too busy sucking Valves cock to have an opinion

Also hating Origin, now Steam drones try to rewrite history that they're okay with "Origin exclusives" - bullshit, I saw faggots complaining.

>now Steam drones try to rewrite history that they're okay with "Origin exclusives"
Where have you ever seen this, other than the talking points script your manager handed you on this topic.

Way way back in the day of 2012, way before you knew what Yea Forums was, people fucking hated EA for making Mass Effect 3 Origin exclusive.

nothing. I don't care enough about companies to spend my time hating on them. I can't imagine how dumber I would have to be to start daily copy-pasta threads. This will be my last reply to any obvious chink propaganda anyway.

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>Be Steam drone
>Losing
>CUT AND RUN