Has ever a videogame ruined an entire generation?

I wouldn’t say any single game has really ruined a generation, but some of them have had very damaging effects, yes. For example, Minecraft’s success made selling unfinished games become a widely-accepted practice, branding it as “early access”.

WoW

After it, was only downhill: Minecraft, LoL, PUBG and currently Fortnite.

CoD4

like what? cause im pretty old and i havent seen such a shift in culture like with fortnite

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Explain.

Matrix I guess did fuck over a lot of trenchcoats

Pokemon.

>473833615
based

But Minecraft was never labeled as a early access. It had and alpha and beta state sure but I remember DayZ actually being the first game that coined the term.

Morrowind. Completely decimated actual RPGs from being made

nintendo has ruined like three generations by now

Remember pogs and crazy bones and pokemon cards? Being a kid in the mid to late 90s was "interesting".

Yeah.

Undertale

so they make 10% less rpgs now? learn english

They made Metal Gear Solid?

no, snow flakes just like to thing it had some sort of cultural impact on girls, when in fact girls had been doing that shit long before this garbage movie

this, fuck pokemon.

>hurr gotta catch em all

Literally a brainwashing catchphrase to get you to buy more shit. Disgusting.

Considering all the ramona copycat attention whores on instagram definetly.

CoD
Minecraft.
Smash.
WoW.

>friends in uni freaking out and playing pokemon
>all surprised I never played it
>look at newest game they're playing
>dated and boring visuals and brain dead gameplay
I will never understand this shit.

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ThEy MaDe mEtAl GeEr sOliD?

No, but your English teacher did

>No one posted it

youtube.com/watch?v=S--pKrAt-F0

Minecraft was/is cool, fuck you. Creative, SMP, redstone, all cool.
It also didn't start shitty early access trend, Notch never lied about what it was and sold it for cheap as hell and provided updates for free for years.

You still understood.

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>reading comprehension
Maybe it's you that should learn English* user. Morrowind zoomers are pathetic.

How have I not heard this before?

nice ESL grammar

Counterstrike. It pushed people towards lame ass realism.

Only retarded people and autists played it

Ever since BG2, not only does every other cRPG has to have romances but also be set in the most generic setting ever.
BG2 gave the player only the feeling of having a grand adventure which isn't bad in itself, but none of your choices matter (escaping from spellhold) or makes sense (paladin will align with the thieves guild regardless of alignment) and the freedom to do quests in any way you please became nonexistent (the skinner murderer) and devolved into simply being "kill X to solve this quest".

>dated and boring visuals and brain dead gameplay
describes every japanese game released

meanwhile in 2007

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absolutely no PC in 2007 could run Crysis looking like that, at playable framerate
not a single one

Minecraft

Shit taste.

On topic DOTA. Killed customs and started the moba craze.

Japanese game studios usually have a small budget and barely sell. Pokemon has no excuse.

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Actually the turning point was Dragon Age: Origins, ever since then romance became a must-have in RPGs. It attracted tons of women(literally because they're fat) to the genre and since then gameplay has been made less intricate.

Fortnite, Cod MW3 and onwards and that it desu.

If anything defending those games is for zoomers

I’m 28 and Pokeon is just as bad as fortnite. Bet you buy their yearly low effort releases and think you’re somehow better than sports/cod/fortnite players.

Heeeey this man know whats up hahahaha

people forget how AWFUL pokemon was at its peak.

>enabled Epic Games to start shit throwing contest with Valve
>made some decent games 1 year exclusive to their scam of a launcher
>started the worst trend yet, Hell even survival was a better meme
>gorillions of cancerous streamers sprouted from this game

Isn't Ramona Flowers a poor man's Kate Winslet from Eternal Sunshine anyway?

Oh my fucking god crazy bones. Shit like that is why I love opening crates so much.

I played customs from the release of ROC and they got far tougher to find other things. Especially other mobas. Tides of Blood was more fun than Dota right off the top of my head.

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None of the kids on here saw that movie. Clementine.

As hilarious as this video is, there's 2 things.

1) SP movie was a comercial failure (reasons vary) so it ruined nothing since it's niche basically.
2) These are just the typical 21st century Nufemale.

Most importantly.... Who the fuck wouldn't fuck Ramona Flowers?!

Pong

>Has ever a videogame ruined an entire generation?
>COD4, MW2, and BLOPS werent at that point yet
There was a turning point where Cod games got filled with ratkids(we called them this in Spain)/zoomers and it was MW3/BO2, before this they were less than 50% of the audience

Fuck you, That was a great ad

say sike right now

So brain-dead gameplay and zoomer visuals?

I think you are not considering that vydia is no longer considered a weird hobby, at least not as much as it used to be. Also you get to use internet as soon as you are born so they are more likely to know about the newest shit

shoo shoo now zoom zooms

It's shitting on homestruck\scott pilgrim audience though.
The hollywood part is just there to remind them how pozzed the ip's are.

After learning she previously fucked 7 other dudes, I sure wouldn't want to touch that std ridden ho

No the game is pretty bad. Many JRPGs surpassed it in terms of depth and also fun. It's only good for the half baked monster collecting gimmick which other games do much better now.

>ADHD's missing the point of Bryan implying girls like Ramona already existed throughout the US and self-absorbed, small town idiots like Scott were only just noticing because nothing exciting was going on in his life until she ran through his narcissistic mind

Bryan said much of Scott Pilgrim was his impression of subcultures he saw while he was growing up in Leaf Country. It didn't invent or influence shit. It was a reflection of what was already happening, like all media. One of the most often cited examples of an overt Manic Pixie Dream Girl in media in fact was in Eternal Sunshine, itself making satirical commentary on what it considered a stock character already further illustrating how dated the appearance and behavior was by then, which predates the Scott Pilgrim movie by six years and comic by several months.

>B-but Scott Pilgrim made it cool and popular for a new crowd of kids
No. Scott Pilgrim just made kids like (You) notice it, a graph of your attention span is not equivalent to actual trends.

All that said, is absolutely correct.

this is probably the most valid answer we're going to get in this thread, this game opened hordes of previously untapped demographics up to the normalization of microtransactions

MOBAs killed off the traditional base building RTS.

SHE SAW RAMONA FLOWERS
AND FELT SO EMPOWERED

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>Ever since BG2, not only does every other cRPG has to have romances
No, that was only the first push. VtMB didn't have it and I'm sure if Deus Ex stayed in development longer it wouldn't gotten one either. But the infamous alien side boob truly cemented this as a requirement.
DA:O was only polishing away irregularities at that point, perfecting the formula so to speak.

My first games were hoop-and-stick and throwing-rocks-at-the-short-kid, kiddo.

>deleted posts
Nanda the fuck?

Holy shit, what happened here? Did some nintendie janny get mad over the pokemon bashing?

Ramona flowers a fat.
Lisa Miller best girl.

Yeah I'm sure neo-feminism, porn, mtv / reality tv, social media et. al jewry had nothing to do with it.

Truth. This is ultra normie fodder

They created FFVIII/FFX?

MEW does things to me goddamn

METAL GEAR

Short black hair and pale skin are so sexy, though.

yup

Metal Gear.
it killed 2d adventure games like Alundra.
It shifted the taste in videogames where "Wind waker is kiddie shit no one wants to play"
It made politics an integral piece of videogame storytelling like CoD.
It started the trend for Overhyped false representation of gameplay trailers with no backlash.
Regardless of the quality of Metal gear as a standalone product, you can't deny how damaging it was for the gaming medium whole and how many generations of gaming it ruined

>pale skin.
>skin.

COD.
Minecraft.
CS.
WoW.
Pokemon.
Morrowwind/Oblivion/Skyrim.
Smash Brothers.
Legend of Zelda.
Halo.
Goldeneye.
Half Life.
MOBA trash.

There is no other answer but this. The industry went somewhat downhill in 2006 after the last peak of 2004-2005. But cod4 in 2007 is what sealed it. Even though i kinda like cod4, it was what spawned cancerous shit that we are dealing with nowadays.

Don't forget that the guy who takes all the credit for Metal Gear is a worshiped hack who's still trying to make games into movies

I'M AN MKULTRA VICTIM
THERE'S POISON IN MY SYSTEM

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I don't think the industry went downhill and I'm likely older than you. You just grew up.

Good thing I only like Metal Gear Solid

What shift in culture? You mean children doing dumb dances? That's nothing new.

Ramona was very lewd i fapped a lot to her, wished for some porn a lot.

lmao holy fucking shit do people not know what manic pixie dream girl is?
this kind of character archetype goes back to the 30s
it gained prominence in the 50s and 60s
and quite frankly I think FLCL had more impact than Scott fucking Pilgrim for 30 year-old boomers and zoomers

Minecraft?

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There was this period between 2007-2010~ in which everything was dull brown, fun stuff like Guitar Hero was waning off and military FPSs were just gaining ridiculous popularity. Aesthetically things are generally better now with popular things, as in Fortnite, which has a level of creativity put into it. Of course, there were outliers to this industry trend, not everything was just that.

Minecraft, Undertale, Fortnite

>this kind of character archetype goes back to the 30s

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Mass Effect 2/3

Yeah but I got tired of AAA shit sometime in the early 2000s so it didn't affect me much.

>this kind of character archetype goes back to the 30s
20s. Flappers/Vamps vs "homely wife" sorts were a popular theme.

A flapper is not really similar to manic pixie dream girl unless you really stretch it.

You sure? What's the archetype you're talking about in the 30s, then?

why are so many posts getting deleted?

wow ruined the mmo genre

Sorry, I'm not that user. I would disagree that it was a thing in the 30s.
Flappers are more like Sukeban.

I looked up supposed examples of early MPDGs and they're not very good.
Marilyn Monroe in Some Like it Hot is just a blonde ditz. And Hepburn in Bringing Up Baby isn't that one dimensional.

Wikis ruined MMO

They're all from one guy. He got banned.

>Flappers are more like Sukeban.
I don't agree with that at all. Flappers, in the movie stereotype anyway, were urbanites that "lured" the men in with dancing and new forms of music, giving those men the impression of high, and sort of alternative, life; hence the connection I'm making with the manic pixie dream girl. Obviously, this is from the masculine perspective, which most movies had. Sukeban are... not that? They're delinquents in all-girls gangs, their attire is a subversion of school attire, most of the time at least (while flappers dress provocatively in contract, not derivation, of "the homely wife"; although you could take this point and say that sukeban sometimes dressed more "western" than the official culture) and their image is not really defined by male perspective in the same way. I really don't see the connection here.

Contrast instead of contract.

World of Warcraft
League of Legends
Fortnite

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Welp, this is it Yea Forums, think i'm just gonna end it here, I dont think I can take this shit anymore.
>epstien shit has me freaking out
>just lost 3k in stocks
>family wants to kill me
>keep hearing niggers and homos giggling 10 feet from my window every night
>get gang stalked every single day
>older brother has recently came out as a tranny and has admitted he has sexual feelings for me
Since you guys have always been my favorite board, and kept me entertained. I'll return the favor. I'll be streaming my suicide in about 10 minutes. In the mean time, I shall answer any questions, suggestions, etc

>inb4 go out in a blaze of glory
No, not going to ruin other peoples lives.
>inb4 why dont you make your own thread
ISP is blocked or some shit. so just posting this in first thread i see.
>inb4 is there anything i can do to change your mind
Nope, its Happening.

stream URL and quick rundown:
pastebin.com/mBNpUHbA

See you all soon.
~RI

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this. the demand for the cards was fucking nuts. some stores would sell booster packs for as much as $12.

The guy who made the song knows that.

Flappers weren't all magic pixie dream girls or anything like that but there were quite a few characters at the time who fell into both categories. Clara Bow's character in It (1927) for instance is a pretty textbook MPDG.

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Gone Home

*sip* ahh i remember when league of legends was a monolith that couldn't be taken down. I remember all those copycat mobas and that push towards esports in every competitive game on the market.

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TLoU changed the course of this generation for the worst.

The connection I see is both were women/girls flaunting current conventions that felt suffocating etc.
I don't see the defining aspect of the Flapper as seducing men with some sort of bohemian care free lifestyle, but more that they were rejecting the previous conventions for women of that societal class as well as the temperance movement.

Minecraft represents the type of freedom and possibility games can have instead of being an interactive movie or a lootbox gambling, doll dressup simulator.
It's not the games fault lets players are cancer and microsoft bought it.

I enjoyed TLoU,but this is true.Hopefully the sequel is an improvement.

Ohh, I see. Good point. Our discordance is that the manic pixie dream girl is not really a "type" of girl as much as an stereotype as viewed by boys/men, and try to see some sort of emancipation through them - function that I can see in the representation of the flapper and their "dangers". Of course, if you take flappers objectively the societal reason behind them is sort of different.

Sure you mean to suggest he learn maths. Because in English class, while they may choose to reveal the origin of the term, they would teach the current definition of decimate.

I blame the last of us for being the reason why AAA games are now pretentious walking simulators.

WoW ruined MMOs forever

>Quake
>Counter Strike
>CoD: Modern Warfare
>Fortnite

Minecraft and fortnite.

HALO was the Fortnite of its time.

Day Z, the mod.

Call of Duty 4 probably. It didn’t ruin its own generation, but it set the stage for the shit show we have today

its a cult classic especially for its cut aways are you mcfucking serious. If it bombed at the theatres but everyone still liked it then that makes it objectively god tier.

>Watched it for the first time after all of my friends praising it and saying I’d love it for years
>they couldn’t be more wrong

What is this shit crnge garbage? Writing was all over the place, le video game references were forced, MC was a fucking asshole who doesn’t learn his lesson, the women were actually brain damaged. The only redeeming thing about it I found were the visual and sound effects were fun to watch but that’s as far as it went.

Anyone who grew up with a Nintendo 64 and games like Mario 64 and Banjo Kazooie inevitably grew up to be an obese manchild. There is literally no exception to this.

>are you mcfucking serious. If it bombed at the theatres but everyone still liked it then that makes it objectively god tier.

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Shave your legs

Ramona Flowers was so fucking weird in that movie.
Her actress looked photogenic only in certain scenes like the OP pic.
But then in other scenes like pic related she looked way more older than she's supposed to be.
The wigs also looked way too oversized holy shit.

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>That pic
Fuck I hate that meme so fucking much.
It fits the comic but it feels pretty condescending towards anyone else it's directed to and feels like a straw man when used incorrectly.

The manic pixie dream girl must be the worst fucking archetype in media.

Undertale. Herald of s o y face types.

Minecraft was getting there but Notch was a prick so that straightened up the types who played his game.

You must be very young.

>but Notch was a prick so that straightened up the types who played his game
So did Toby Fox. Leave newfag

I wouldn't know since I only know about their exploits in Yea Forums and I have no active social media anymore.
Notch still gets threads from time to time and he's pretty based.

IIRC Toby Fox has made several tweets mocking the fanbase and a lot of people believe that Deltarune was specifically created because he regretted appealing to tumblrfags in Undertale. That's why Deltarune has a less onions combat system and no moralfag decision making. That's also why Undertalefags aren't losing their shit over Deltarune, it's appealing to Yea Forums way more.
Someone who acted a lot more like a tumblrfag was ironically the LISA dev who had a mental breakdown, proceeded to call all men toxic, cancelled his WWE love letter project and began collaborating with SJWs. The tables kinda turned there.

Oh shit you're right. Deltarune just flew under my radar so I forgot about it. Maybe you and that other user are more on point. But still I didn't like what the Undertale fanbase was like. And in comparison Minecraft types were just not so offensive to me in comparison.

Edgar Wright's cinematography and transitions are god tier.

>Oh shit you're right. Deltarune just flew under my radar so I forgot about it. Maybe you and that other user are more on point.
Yeah Deltarune completely changed up the perception of Toby Fox on Yea Forums. Especially once he dropped the Moralfag gameplay and tried to actually write a more RPG-type story.
>But still I didn't like what the Undertale fanbase was like
Toby didn't either. Pic related.
>And in comparison Minecraft types were just not so offensive to me in comparison.
Not if you didn't dig deep. Trust me, the Minecraft fanbase in 2012-2014 was Undertale-tier at points, especially in the Youtube scene. There was that one guy that made weird fetish porn of it on Youtube too. Can't remember his name. FuturisticHub or something like that.

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Gears of War

SHE SAW RAMONA FLOWERS
AND FELT SO EMPOWERED

I can't isolate a single precursor for the ubisoft tier open world with every POI and collectible already marked for you and 3-4 repeating unfun side activities that you need to repeatedly do to de-gimp your character, but whatever it was, that.

Modern Warfare and Gaylo turned so many people into drooling troglodytes

what in the actual fuck are you talking about? Tumblr types exploded when Deltarune came out. And the designs had just as much tumblr appeal than ever. Look at all the fags talking about fluffy boi Ralsei and all the wilding out about Suze. Everyone was streaming and talking about that shit. Step outside Yea Forums for 2 fucking seconds retard

This. That game effected more than FPS. SE were even influenced by it while they were making FFXIII.

I can't say any particular individual pieces of software had much effect on their own to ruin gaming as a whole, but rather I place the blame on two platforms.
>the Wii
I say this as a Nintendo fan, too. Not only did the Wii's success irreparably and massively damage Nintendo's quality as a developer, but externally the Wii's marketing and wide spread were responsible for first establishing "casual" gaming as a new and distinct market for people to chase. I guess you could point to Wii Sports as a key piece of software that facilitated this, but that's only so much of the equation.
>the smartphone
Fucking duh. The smartphone market scooped up a lot of the casual market the Wii carved out just in time when the Wii was losing its momentum as the gaming fad of babies and grandmas. Phone gaming was an obvious hit since smartphones became an almost necessary commonality by the start of the 2010s, and it quickly gave birth to incredibly lazy game development and reprehensible exploitative microtransaction mechanics. This damage is now even being felt on console and PC gaming.

Whatever weebshit that started turning red blooded men into braindead waifucucks

assassins creed 2

"Hardcore" industry sells concentrating themselves on military shooters or bland TPSs were infinitely worse than the Wii's family friendly appeal. Both are related though.

This is what I've noticed too. It isn't safe out there for one's sanity but one needs to look into the abyss sometimes to see the depths of gen z's depravity when it comes to their children's video games.

>Look at all the fags talking about fluffy boi Ralsei and all the wilding out about Suze.
Those are furfags. You can't stop those faggots, they exist universally.
SJWshites stayed as far away from the game as possible after hearing there was no moralfag system.

Yes
>Sonic
>Minecraft
>Fortnite

No, they didn't.

Didn't you post this exact same copypasta a few days ago? Just shut the fuck up already, nobody cares.

sauce on that pic?

C-U-M-B-R-A-I-N

This. Don't forget Metal Gear Solid also popularized long ass cutscenes. This game was the start of "Videogames stopped being games"

What would it take to get a video game about michael cera?

There's a Scott Pilgrim game.

They saw it when they were younger, cut them some slack.
You also seem like too miserable of a person to enjoy anything anyway

I'M A SCHEMER BOY
I'M A DREAMER BOY
I LOVE A GIRL THAT DON'T EVEN FUCKING NEED A BOY

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I can name a few.

Minecraft, Fortnite, Skyrim, Pubg, League of Legends.

>sony for creating
No
>and popularizing
Yes

GTA3.

Prove me wrong.

Final fantasy xv was just a horrible game that gave me depression and gaming fatigue. I had to go back to old gen consoles just to cure my gaming depression but I still have fatigue till this day because of all that disappointment. I stopped hyping games after that abomination of a action rpg.

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Dark Souls had literally poisoned the game industry.
Nothing against the game itself, though.

>wahhhhh every pixie girl has sex with everyone but me!1!!
seething incels

You're just fucking her, not marrying her you retard. No wonder you're still a virgin

All the considered good games ruined games, but due how retarded game developers are.
Every single mistake in all the good games are copied forever, all the good parts are mistaken.

The collecting part of mario 64, the shitty stealth minigame of zelda oot, the regen life and limited weapons from halo (elements that were only there to make the "strategy game on foot" work), the QTEs of shenmue...

I'm not joining your stupid ass Discord, tranny.

It fucking blows that the LISA dev lost his shit over his dad's death.

No it's a meme. Originally conceived by literal memes it attained some popularity among alt-rightists/nazis a few days ago and got a few hundreds thousands of views on Youtube so now literal schoolchilden are spamming every board on Turkmeni horse-statue incavation forum with it

How did Minecraft ever get popular again with shit like this?

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Are you implying that this isn't something the average videonoid dreams of?

Seething

>calling out whores is a nazi thing now
Man you can touch the hypocrisy in your post.

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>it attained some popularity among alt-rightists/nazis a few days ago
>Scott Pilgrim
Erm what?

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The scott pilgrim graphic novels are great. The movie is decent. Alt chicks are great, you kids are weeny retards.

Oh no you got me

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>Pic related
Holy shit there are a thousand other ways to fix your look instead of applying fucking years of foundation.
She could easily put some makeup that matches her skin tone to fix out all the zit/pimple stuff or just as easily use medical treatment to fix that up. Once that's done if she wants a more tanner skin tone instead of fucking applying makeup she could go to the beach and get some sun.
Why are people such lazy idiots?

Nobody fucking saw that movie or read the comic, how the fuck did it influence a whole generation?

>those fuck me eyes

Dota 2
League of Legends
CS:GO
Fortnite

Do console warrior really believe this stupid shit? How can Sony ruin a generation if nobody but them is doing the movie games. Third parties are not copying Sony at all.

id swipe her right pick left anyway its obvious whats under

She's expressly not one and her and Scott are supposed to both be unlikable shitheads that need to improve both inside and outside their relationship

Outside of a low res image, the right side face IRL looks all lumpy and is caked with dry ass makeup. Natty is unironically better.

This is retarded. The blue haired cunt type existed long before Scott Plilgrim, just look at that movie with Jim carrey and Kate Winslet.

It didn't change shit.

AAA so far of the year: Sekiro, DMCV, The Division 2, Metro Exodus, Anthem, literally not a single one is a walking simulator or is like TLOU at all.

The idea of some manic slut having like fiveteen other side boyfriends while the protagonist cuck sets out to "defeat" them is definitely more prophetic. Nobody gave a fuck about Scott Pilgrim, nobody was influenced by it, it just happened to be a lucky guess.

Actually based post, hit the hail on the head. The comic book writing left Scott underdeveloped and more like a poser on Yea Forums, and Edgar Wright lifted the work into a fun romp. Wallace and Kim are well written though.

>he doesn't know what a flapper is

Ruined a generation and every generation of gaming since.

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separate versions (Red/Blue) is pretty early on in the chain of bad decisions and jewmongering that led us to DLC/gacha hell

Shit, I'd say I was seeing that in the MySpace days years before this came out. BPD arthoes and sluts making men fall for them has been around from the early 2000s at least

>Sloppy controls
Does the critic have parkinson's?

>muh nazis

Man who has a crush on an manic pixie confirmed

Unless she has an actual condition those pimples will be gone on their own in due time, she looks good/better without makeup.

Mass Effect 3. It created a generation of whiny, entitled gamers. It was the peak of terrible, unfunny gaming meme culture. It was the dawn of YouTuber/steamer culture. It also showcased some of the worst business practices in gaming.

Pic semi-related.

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Assassin's Creed killed open world games
Grand Theft Auto buried them

It could be argued that flappers dwindled down due to the lack of economic upswing in the 30s and their almost complete defenestration in popular narrative due to the Hays Code.

?

WoW was the downfall of Blizzard. Everything they made after it was poop, wow included. People who have supported this shit deserve to die.

No, he took the stick part of the gaming stick more literally.

I don't. I meant the meme format in general. Not that particular version depicted here.