Data for Research

1) What is your real life political affiliation?
2) Did you support the Stormcloaks or the Empire?

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1) Economic left, Social right
2) The Empire

1) left-leaning centrist (have supported conservative candidates on occasion)
2) empire

1. Publicly apolitical, secretly President of the Pinochet Fanclub: Giving chopper tours when you don't really want 'em.
2 I didn't make it that far into Skyrim to pick a side. I uninstalled it and waited for the sex mods to get more advanced. Then I uninstalled it after jacking off once.

Whig.
Stormcloak.

>right wing libertarian
>stormcloaks

they didn't even have any political philosophy in skyrim outside of the concept of sovereign rights. op is underage

Left
Stormcloaks - Skyrim unironically belongs to the Nords.

1) Left, supposedly, but the single spectrum model is way too simplified. For example while I agree that worker ownership is a good thing I think markets have many upsides as long as they're well-regulated. UBI+socialism+markets+free enterprise is the model that makes the most sense in the world of tomorrow, in which automation will displace the vast majority of blue collar workers. True freedom must include the freedom to not serve or die and no other system offers that freedom. Capitalism minus UBI and communism both force you to play the part of a cog in order to survive. Laissez faire capitalism with UBI just allows the people at the top to drink up your income and leave you as poor as before. Socialism without markets leaves outcasts unable to pursue their unorthodox desires. There's a reason why Western homosexuals had more rights than Soviet ones for decades. Markets give the weird and lonesome leverage.

2) While the stormcloaks are ignoble racists that must be eventually crushed they serve as a useful contra to the Thalmor, who are literally trying to destroy the universe. Fund them. Overcome the empire. Gulag them.

This.

>There's a reason why Western homosexuals had more rights than Soviet ones for Decades. Markets give the weird and lonesome leverage
So, you're saying markets are bad, then

Individualism is a good thing.

>UBI+socialism+markets+free enterprise
I fucked up and forgot to include income caps.
+income caps.
Update notes: post now makes considerably more sense.

Conservative democrat.
Stormcloaks.

The Empire is gay.

Monarchist with Theocratic elements. Most important things are environmentalism, preserving human genetic/cultural diversity, producing great works of art and discovery about the universe for its own sake. For economics I'd go with an extensively regulated capitalist system. When someone asks my politics I say "haha I don't really know."

Stormcloak. The independence being successful or leading to a Thalmor take over is a win/win.

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Individualism within a collective is the only society worth living in. Rampant individualism, with no duty to, or love for, the collective, leads to sociopathic nihilism, like the modern West.

Fuck niggers.
Just wanted to be done with it at that point and rushed straight for edwin or whatever that dragon's called.

left
stormcloaks

even though ulfric is a racist retard, suppressing talos worship has to immediately stop. the thalmor have done such good 4d chess that it's hard to tell what's part of their master plan and what isn't,

Independent
Neither

1) Whatever benefits me at the moment/Independent/Swing Voter.
2) Stormcloaks, cause the Imperials were about to execute "me" at the start of the game.

Im more personally motivated then politically, Yadda Yadda Thalmore were behind it all and Stormcloacks were a Psy-Op and all that shit, but the whole point of their Skyrim thing was that is was Win-Win for them no matter your choice and the Empire was in full "Give a Mile" mode with the "Treaty" anyway.

Don't the Thalmor intend to literally unmake creation? Their defeat should be the highest priority, and the Empire is the greatest chance of that happening... even WITH those Stormniggers wasting an entire generation of the Empire's manpower. It will recover in 20 years, and they can focus on the elves then.

1) National Socialist
2) Empire

Creation can be a nasty place sometimes. Your attachment to it is biased because it's coming from the perspective of someone who knows nothing outside it.

Any society that won't allow its weirdest elements to live, love and make merry on their own terms, provided that their actions don't harm anyone else, is an unjust society. A worker's paradise in which all must conform to some idyllic idea of the nuclear family is, in some ways, worse than the neoliberal hellscape we live in now. The modern West, I'll have you know, does more to protect strange individuals from the tyranny of the collective than any other society to date. It just does this while squeezing the life out of every person who is not at the top. That's the part that needs addressing.

1) Apolitical
2) I don't care about Emil's poorly written political fanfic. I'm here only to pillage dungeons and kill dragons.

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This. If you actually want to defeat the Thalmor, supporting the Empire is the objective correct answer.

General Tullius literally tells you that they intend to fight off the Thalmor as soon as they have the strength again to do so, and the civil war in Skyrim and potential further balkanization of the Empire means this will never happen. Skyrim alone doesn't stand a chance against them.

1)Technocrat
2)Skyrim for Nords

/biz/-wing, so I support anything that makes my portfolio go up
Empire, because Ulfric didn't strike me as someone who had an actual plan beyond taking the Empire out.

"Unjust"? I actively don't want degenerates, malcontents, criminals, and anti-socials to be able to easily live their lifestyles. I don't want their crap to be promoted, talked about, or given air. The ability for these outliers to spread their cancer is not the metric for a just society. Thinking that says a lot about who you are as a person, more than anything.
The metric of how just a society is is how well people in your society can be safe and reasonably happy, and to be able to pair together and have children without things like disease, hunger, poverty and crime stopping them.

>This. If you actually want to defeat the Thalmor, supporting the Empire is the objective correct answer

A coalition of nations is just as capable of doing that as one Empire.

The civil war is a huge obstacle to them working together, and the longer it goes on the weaker the parties involved get as they kill each other instead of their real enemies.

Full blown lefty that wants socialism in very specific industries.
Supported empire because stormfags are filthy barbarians that will create a society that will crumble after the war for independence and leave economic+social conditions in the shitter.

>I actively don't want degenerates, malcontents, criminals, and anti-socials to be able to easily live their lifestyles.
As long as someone's actions do not harm others it is not just to prevent them from taking them, yes.

>The metric of how just a society is is how well people in your society can be safe and reasonably happy,
The "malcontents" you speak of are people.

1) Fascist
2) Stormcloaks

>implying the Empire isn't occupied by long-eared jews

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I like how Empirefags pretend that the Thalmor arent spying on literally everything going on in the Empire and setting up plans to stop anything they try.
The Empire is fucked.
Nord+Redguard alliance would fuck up the Thalmor.

So people should just be able to cut themselves up with a knife, because they aren't physically hurting someone else? In less extreme examples, people should be encouraged to ruin their own lives with homosexuality, which will bar them from having children with a spouse and increase their likelihood of getting incurable disease, transgenderism, which will sterilize and mutilate them, or use drugs, which can easily damage the brain and body?
It's obvious to me that allowing these things to happen, normalizing and encouraging them, is Evil. Not """""just""""". Get help, user.

>National Socialist
bullshit, every person I have seen claim this on here is just an average racist American. Let me guess, you hate poor people?

Holy fuck, the amount of Stormcloak posters. No wonder the quality of this board is in the gutter.

these are data mining threads
either dont post or post false information

either alphabet organizations like the NSA are data mining or some globalist entity

skyrim belongs to the nords.

It's a libertarian who hates the poor, user. A National Socialist wants to raise up all of their people, from the middle class man and wife, to the depressed vagrant without any hope in their life.

>So people should just be able to cut themselves up with a knife, because they aren't physically hurting someone else?
I absolutely do support the right of people to euthanize themselves.

>In less extreme examples, people should be encouraged to ruin their own lives with homosexuality, which will bar them from having children with a spouse and increase their likelihood of getting incurable disease, transgenderism, which will sterilize and mutilate them, or use drugs, which can easily damage the brain and body?
Homosexuality correlates with a variety of material parameters. You're more likely to be gay the more biological older brothers you have, even if you are raised apart from them. The same effect is not replicated if you look at non-biological older brothers.
Homosexuality is not, by itself, damaging. Having children is not, by itself, good. Incurable diseases can be avoided by taking care. Transgenderism correlates with a variety of genes and is itself rooted in biology. Surgeries that improve one's state of being are never mutilatory.

You're the evil one, user. You seek to strip people of the freedom to do as they wish with their own bodies, to prevent them from loving who they'd like to love. This is the ultimate form of tyranny. A fascist colonization of the soul. The capitalist, who merely monopolizes your time and keeps you impoverished, can't possibly compete with your ilk.

granting the hugely loaded premises that accompany your argument, like that being a faggot is the same as cutting yourself and everything else you said; why is letting someone do that to their own body ethically "Evil"?

1. I hate niggers
2. skyrim belongs to the nords

im leftist i believe in abortions and I think the world would be a better place without bigoted white people :^)

stormcloaks

>all these leftist niggers choosing the nigger faction
Well color me black like a nigger, who would've thought?

1) nordic socialist democratic
2) Empire

1) literally Hitler
2) Stormcloaks

Left, the empire.

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Because they are a part of my people. Their well-being is my responsibility, and they will be best off finding a loving spouse and having a family, rather than indulging in a sexual fetish for thirty years, then dying an early death alone with no children. Imagine the desolation, loneliness, and regret. Then imagine a society that actively tries to push people towards that path, like ours.

But alas, it's very late. Keep in mind that Empire>Stormshits, every time.

>They will be best off finding a loving spouse and having a family, rather than indulging in a sexual fetish for thirty years
What are you basing this claim on? Empirical data shows that, for example, transitioned transsexuals are far less suicidal.

Anglo Supremacist
Empire

1) Libertarian
2) At first neither, but later on after reading up and playing Skyrim for a long time I settled on the Stormcloaks, because it's the more effective means of resisting the Thalmor.

Right leaning Nazi
Stormcloaks

Libertarian
empire

Labour.
Chose the Empire.

that's a lot of rhetoric, you didn't explain ethically why though. you just said "it's your responsibility" to help them, but why is it your responsibility? is this an argument out of empathy? how then does allowing someone to do something that might hurt only themselves "evil"?
>Then imagine a society that actively tries to push people towards that path, like ours.
so we shall imagine a society where you are in charge, and you decide what is correct and not correct, and push people towards paths only you approve of.

Libertarian
Empire

1, whoever has the most common sense at the moment
2, remain (empire)

Economically Racist Socially Homosexual

Stormcloaks