Age of Empires 2: Definitive Edition

So kipchaks are chu ko nus on a horse? Probably gonna have shitty accuracy

Anyone with the beta key, how does the game run? Any frame drops?

How to get into beta?

Reminder that this game is almost 100GB

Why did this game succeed so well in comparison with the other AOE games?

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1 is too simple in comparison
3 had too many weird ideas like cards and the way resources were collected
2 just aged the best I suppose

>hill bonus increased by 50%
wtf bruh thats shit
>+1 cav archer armor leading to a whopping 7 armor
is this a joke civ?
>18 range trebs
literally no difference between 18 and 17 unless youre having a treb war lol
>shittier Farimba
>another malian knockoff with expensive as shit +1 pierce armor on trash
HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHA
>insta shit cav
>teamates can make what I assume are going to be 10 mangudai
lel, shit tier civ
at least they have siege onager
these guys might actually be viable due to siege onagers and konniks actually seem like they might be strong
cant wait to play more fucking scens like Gay of Thrones, the Shitness, and the fucking retarded messes that Robert makes

AOM>AOE2>AOE1>AOE3

Balance patches:
>General: Elite Skirmisher upgrade cost increased from 200w/100g to 230w/130g
>General: Herbal Medicine effect increased by 50%
>General: All Gates have 0/0 armor while building
>General: Palisade Gate cost increased from 20w to 30w
>General: Watch Tower HP reduced from 1020 to 700 in feudal age. HP restored back to 1020 in Castle Age.
>General: Elite Battle Elephant attack reduced from 16 to 14.
>General: Supplies moved to Feudal Age
>Teutons: Receive Herbal Medicine
>Teutons: Murder Holes & Herbal Medicine free
>Britons: Warwolf cost increased from 500w, 250g to 800w, 400g
>Franks: Cavalry +20% HP bonus only available from Feudal Age
>Goths: Lose Supplies
>Incas: Slingers -1 attack (reduced from 5 to 4)
>Italians: Genoese Crossbowman reload time reduced from 3 to 2
>Khmer: Receive Faith
>Khmer: Receive Hussar
>Khmer: Lose Shipwright
>Koreans: Receive “All non-siege units cost -15% less wood”
>Koreans: Lose “Fortifications built faster”
>Malay: Harbors base attack reduced from 6 to 3. Bonus attack vs Ships increased from 9 to 12.
>Malay: Forced Levy changes gold cost into food cost
>Malay: Forced Levy cost changed from 1000f 600g to 850f 500g.
>Persians: Town Centers and Docks work +5% faster in Dark Age.
>Saracens: All Archers now deal +3 bonus damage vs buildings.
>Saracens: Market costs -100w (instead of -75w).
>Saracens: Mamelukes +5 armor vs Halberdiers
>Spanish: Missionaries heal as quickly as normal Monks.
>Spanish: Missionaries affected by Husbandry.
>Slavs: Receive Faith
>Slavs: Farmers work 10% faster (lowered from 15% faster)
>Slavs: (Elite) Boyar training time reduced to 15s (from 23s/20s)
>Vietnamese: Receive Husbandry

Expanded with some other general changes that an user has mentioned, and cleared up

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2>M

>buying the same game a third time
Yeah I'll stick to voobly thanks

>Tatar niggas when playing on gold rush/acropolis

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What's so great about voobly? People swear by it

Based AOMchad

seems about right, although AOM worked really well but just didn't reach the same level of popularity. I guess 2D was more cozier.

For me personally AOM is too complicated and god powers/titans just seem silly

damn, I'm so hyped for this game.

>too complicated
Brainlet

I'm retarded, but I don't get how forced levy will change. Does it bump the food cost of the unit?
Also, koreans may be less memey now
Overall, I'm hype!
>tfw no beta key

Pretty big nerf attempt for high level play quick walling.

It bumps the food cost because the new tech 'supplies' lowers food cost

>tatar unit generates gold
Interesting.... I wonder if that's abuseable

I'm dying to see the animation of the Bulgarian unit falling off his horse

I got into the beta on steam but every time I try to launch the game I get an error about missing the executable file.
any ideas?

Validate files?

did that, and Ive tried re-installing

the exact error is
missing executable: E:(steam directory)\steamapps\common\Phoenix\AoE2DE_s.exe

>We wuz kangs II
Cringe

>game has black people in it
oh the horror

>European focused game has blacks shoehorned in
Rewriting herstory is cool guys!

>european focused game
????????????

>European focused
>with huns, turks, and vikings in it
sure sweets whatever you say

An Aztec vs Lithuanian matchup could result in a rare relic race, I like it.

thank fuck an excuse to delete COD BO3

What continent are vikings from?

For the most part it's designed competently, and I think the medieval setting is what lends itself to more people liking it. On top of this, it's got nice offerings for all kinds of players.

This bait is weak.

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That's with the texture pack, the size without it is ~29 GB.

It's okay (if u have spare 94gb then feel free to use the 4k pack) i hope this will have some kind of a crossplay with the hd edition

3 still has a very good competitive scene, it's just much smaller in comparison because it's pretty much been left in the dirt compared to AoE2 which has been getting constant revivals

right Im retarded I forgot to set the beta opt in to the closed beta and needed to download 20 gb more data

>not adding the new civs to the map
I'm curious where you would place the Tatars on a map like this

>implying Scandinavia is European
nice try Johan I see through your lies

I think AoE2's revival is thanks mostly to content from people like T90 and Spirit of the Law, it's what got me back into it

>3 still has a very good competitive scene
>youtube.com/watch?v=wGvT18n0AY8
Faggy Youtuber aside I wouldn't touch 3 with a 10 foot pole after this came out

>long time AoE2 fan, want to get into beta
>you need an xbox live account
>try to make one
>An unexpected error occurred. Please try again later.
I just want to get INTO THE BETA
MICROSOOOOOOOFT

>implying spiffing brit knows what the fuck hes doing in the game
Spiffing is alright in some games (mostly paradox) but holy shit he has no idea how to play AoE3, hes clearly playing against the easiest AI and he even lost the first game

my grandmother could beat the easiest AI in AoE3

I mean more along the lines of
>Any game that lets you fuck with online shit by editing local files
That's just a shitshow waiting to happen

>you need an xbox live account
Do you really? I thought it was a steam beta

aom is game of my childhood, it will always have a special place in my heart above all others even if its so niche

The game literally depicts the Celts winning the Battle of Falkirk straight out of the tutorial, you fucking lard gargler

that channel does those videos as a series if you haven't noticed. he likes playing games and exploiting them to make it seem like their unbalanced

aoe3 isnt unbalanced but its obviously not as competitive as aoe2

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>have played endless hours of every aoe game
>have never touched campaign
Am I missing out?

>can only fuck with the home city xp and level information
its not like you're actually changing the game itself, you cant fuck with unit info or resources you just can unlock all the home city cards right away.... which if you are playing online I would hope you've either done this exploit to have the cards or grinded the fuck out of your home cities like the rest of us

>european focused
it never was tho?

not really, other than doing holy man in AoE 1 there's not really much

yes
go play the Age of Mythology vanilla campaign right the fuck now user
fucking delete this right now user

AoE campaigns in order
AoM > 3 > 2 > 1

Anyone know when 1 or 2 are coming to steam?

2 is already on steam, hopefully Microsoft will be moving 1 over from the windows store

That's because it's an older picture from when Rajas came out.

Assuming you mean DE, 2 is just listed as 'Fall', whereas 1 is coming this month

>leitis
Damn, I didn't even know that was a word, and I'm a native lithuanian

its probably 1 gold per 5 hits or 1 gold per kill
if its either of those its incredibly weak.
the only way iit would be worth using is 10 gold per kill or 1 gold per hit

>leitis is as much as a boyar except it will demolish Tks and Boyars
w e w l a d s

why do boomers likes to play farming simulators?

you dont have to buy it again
also voob is poop

>Lithuania
>Unique tech: tower shield

really?

>herbalism
>herbalism for free on top of murder holes and crenelations
hope you lads like castle drops

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>Changed Korean bonus

Archer units are a given, but would this mean ships are cheaper too? Seems like they'll be much better on water.

>kipchak will have a total of 8 attack + multiple arrows adding up to 12 damage 4 confirmed against pierce armor type units
are you fucking kidding me? thats just a mounted chuk which is twice as expensive
>muh siege onagers
enjoy getting raped by britons and ethiopians baka desu

You never learned about leičiai in school?

thanks for posting. They weren't kidding when they said they weren't messing with the game.

traditionalists afraid of change

worst part is its just pierce armor, fucking +1 pierce armor on trash units. should have been +20 hp or +1 total armor or really it should be +1 armor and +1 attack.
what are they going to win by negating the aztec skirmisher +1 attack or vietn skirm?
It just seems like a useless tech
Viets already have +1 armor on their skirms in addition to 8 more hitp and italians have +1 armor on skirms and malians have +4 armor on pikes.
it just doesnt make any sense why it would be so bad

I like the supplies tech, many see more longswordsmen.

Must have forgotten about it. "Valaku reforma" was pretty boring

at least teuts can now take on franks in castle age instead of needing to wait till late imp

>implying I'm not just going to feudal rush the fuck out of you

ALLAH ALLAH

Bulgarian swords tho
that +3 armor puts them at 7 melee and 8 pierce armor
they are going to incredibly irritating to deal with
also malay with only 50 food two handed swordsmen now

>European focused
>has China, Mongolia, Japan, Korea, Aztecs, Incans

Based retarded racists

Age of Mythology was god tier no pun intend
Aoe3 was okish
Aoe2 had decent campaigns in Afro and Rajas, other than that only Barbarossa was good.
Attila was fun Khan was fun Joan was fun others are meh tier

the original game was 90% Euro civs
only alts were turks, saracens, mongols, chinese, and japanese

Yeah I didn't think about the far reaching effects, just that currently when I think of typical militia line it's men-at-arms rush or post-imperial trash killing and not much between.

That 1 range cav will be sick in groups.

That's 5 out of 11, not 90%

in Tartaria? Russia
slavs go in Ukraine and Muscovia

>expansions include more of the world
>somehow including African civs is stepping over the line

you literally just listed almost half the civs in the original game

this game never was "european centric" you're delusional for no reason

boo weakening towers.

ngl am pretty excited to have a mounted Kamayuk.
I just hope they dont reduce its speed of attack. I can just imagine them ripping down trash units, with the extra range they are immune to cataphract, druzhina, and elephant trample dmg which is a very underrated aspect of kamas and I think it will finally be noticed with steppe lancers

mongols were in the game in so far as they were in Europe, ie its not like early mongol tribes who had no euro contact, saracens in the same boat, turks in teh same boat, there arent medieval turks despite it being a medieval game they are late period turks because thats when turks entered europe
Japan has samurai which werent really around as they are in the game until European contact.
It is a euro centric game

>that fedora incel acting and voice

>>Malay: Forced Levy changes gold cost into food cost
wait what the fuck they are taking away their infinite sword spam?
that's kind of shit to be quite honest
Malay are severely underpowered the only other thing they have are cheap elephants and their novelty fish traps

They aren't, they mean the gold cost of barracks units becomes a food cost. It's to compensate for the supplies tech

This is some cope if I have ever seen it.

Ok great, and none of the civs in the game would have gunpowder units without contact from the Chinese, nor knowledge of horse domestication without contact from Central Asia. What's your point?

Firstly, Europeans came from Central Asia and Europeans domesticated the horse.
EHG/ANE/Yamna peoples domesticated the horse and are the reason any sort of animal domestication exists at all, all of those groups were European, not from the continent but Europeans today derive over 50% of their genes from those people.
Secondly, what does Europeans taking gunpowder from China have to do with anything?
THe game is based around a European view of civilizations.
Euroepeans only saw the Mongols when they invaded, the game sets the mongols with the techs they had when they invaded Europe
same for the turks

I took it as they cost 80F, 0G after tech instead of 60F, 0G

I also love AoM, but in this board I've heard multiple times that the general consensus it is that the game itself is pretty imbalanced. Personally I don't see much of that issue.

I don't know much about its competitive scene but I'm surprised Zeus kept getting nerfed just before the Chinese expansion hit Extended Edition (so Bolt can't kill the Norse's starting Ulfsark, etc), and even in the upcoming patch he's still getting nerfed with the favor bonus.

Everyone on Yea Forumseddit is just salty Atlantis is head and shoulders above everyone else in terms of strength and they are depicted as blonde and Nordic.
This board has a hate boner for the tall and fair Atlantans beating the shit out of swarthy Gayreeks, Snowniggers, and literal Niggers with their superior villagers and god powers

That's because Supplies now exists, you mong. Forced Levy got cheaper to compensate, so the units are only more expensive by an extra 5 food each in the end.

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I thought Atlanteans were the ones who had a weaker lategame but stronger earlygame, with things like the Promethean rushes and Murmillo + Turma spam.

If it's based on a European view, then what's wrong with the African Kingdoms? The Malian Empire definitely had contact with Europe, so did Ethiopia and the Berber states. What's your issue?

>80% faster hussars
Found my civ

Still waiting for my beta key, not sure why it's taking so long

>this month
Sauce??

This email I got

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>less than 3 weeks left in the month
>no word of a release date
>no advertising
They don't deserve the massive sales they're going to get including from me

>thinking I'm going to download the 4k texture pack when I've been playing this game at 1280x1024 for years

Anyone got screenshots?

hows the multiplayer in the beta? hd was shit because of the MP, they cannot fuck that up

may make feasible to make longswords to counter massing eagles in feudal. you will still have to catch up with their speed tho

The one game I played with an user had him disconnect but I think that was more due to his ISP.

Does anyone even see how much of a powerhouse fully armed Lithuanians are?
They now have +9 attack on their cavalry, thats a 16 attack Hussar, thats an 80 food unit that is going to tear into paladins. Steppe lancer will be a kamayuk, bu faster and now with 19 damage, that's insane, then their UU will have 21 damage that ignores armor.
That will be the most damage a non-siege non-counter unit can do to a fully upgraded unit
on top of that bombard cannon and almost full monastery, they are going to be monsters on the field, I think only, Persians, Mongols, and Incas (at full strength of course) could possibly beat them, I dont mean crush them I mean have a fighting chance.
Lithuanians seems incredibly OP.

only downside is they have basically no unique techs, their castle age tech is useless nobody uses TCs for their range, whats more their +1 pierce armor doesnt even off set missing plate mail.

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>I wasn't the original guy complaining about Afro Kangdoms

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nobody masses eagles in fuedal thats retarded, also its man at arms in feudal

>W10 only
Really now?

I've been rused

>still no north american civs

>didn't invent the wheel
>expect to compete against the strongest kingdoms in history

>krepost
Does this replace the castle?

No, it's an alternative building that cost less than a castle but also has worse stats and it can be used to advance to imperial just like a normal castle

Cool, reminds me of Hill Forts in AOM

AoE 4 when

>>shittier Farimba
They have Hussars and Paladins. Also have a way better Scout rush. Do you want them to have a better Farimba?

>was in aoe1 hd beta
>didnt get into this because I never uploaded my dxdiag
fug

It's a weaker but cheaper variant which only appears to train Konniks. Interested to see how it gets used.

>uploaded my dxdiag
>connected my steam acc
>still no key

Dont forget they also got the last attack upgrade

>Franks: Cavalry +20% HP bonus only available from Feudal Age
Is the only implication for this that their scout doesn't auto-win every early fight now? I guess it's easier for a TC to kill them too. Seems like they could've done something a little more substantial given how strong Franks are.

Considering that he's not acknowledging the Feudal bonuses Cumans get, I think user is just shitposting.

Don't forget that they lack plate mail armour. So their spear line will actually have 1 less pierce armour than a typical fully upgraded civ.

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They had nothing that even remotely came close to a large kingdom. Until wild horses introduced by the Spanish migrated north they were basically just isolated tribes.

I'm pretty ignorant of a lot of ancient history and always eager to patch holes in my awareness but I thought tower shields went out of vogue once the classical era ended. Mostly because kite shields accomplished more or less the same thing at a more efficient weight ratio.

>mongols were in the game in so far as they were in Europe
That's why only the very last mission of their campaign detailing their failed invasion of Europe sees them there?

they really hate tower rushes it seems.

cumans are really OP honestly, if they had bracer they'd be the best civ.
and lithuanians too, the +150 food bonus at start is a boost, plus if you collect relics you get extra free blacksmith upgrades.
and lol cav that ignores armor with 14-19 attack.

I think it is more stable and more people play on it
But I play on steam so what the fuck do I know

I feel you bro, same thing here

how desperate m$ for cash?
they made hd version already

It's both to try crossplay

I'm sure they will slowly add all their games on it, I'm pretty sure they said that or something similar

Well you already have USA representing civs, Malians, Aztecs, Mayans

>malians
Also the latter two are mesoamerican. Not North.

What civ they could add? Indians?

like I said USA is represented

MesoAmerica is not North America dumbass. It's Mexico.

Native Americans weren't a kingdom or nation. They're just a primitive tribe. They'd have nothing.

I was mutt posting if you had not realized yet, however MesoAmerica is in North America you absolute retard go look at a fucking map for once.

Yeah that's issue.
All I see they could have are colonial but they aren't that unique between them and they also got represented in AoE 3

>burger education
Mexico is North America

Me too user...

Are Franks really that strong? I thought they just had good cavalry

>I can finally play my people
Feels fucking шэп, мaлaйлap.

AoC > AoF changes gave Franks a foraging bonus, the HP boost now including the Scout line and not just knights, and some Throwing Axemen changes, on top of their Castle Tech for Stable production. HP buff being changed to Feudal onward makes sure they won't have an even larger advantage in the Dark Age.

Beta key? I have the discs on my shelf and I also play it on Steam on occasion. Seriously though, the game uses pre-rendered graphics, you can't make it anymore pretty, it's just a sad cashgrab.

aye I got this email. only access to #1 but I assume they will now let me into #2

>retard

They're upgrading to 4k sprite resolution with 16 instead of 8 facings.

*sips*

>magyar different than huns
>the hun area is overimposed over the tatar area which is imposed over the cuman area
>so many literally who civs in SEA
>mali ehiopians even existing

WHAT THE FUCK WHERE THEY THINKING

meant for

They were thinking it would be fun.

>unless you have treb war
You havent seen many competitive AoE2 games, have you? They either ends in first 10 minutes to *insert random building or unit* rush or they last an hour and its ALWAYS treb wars.

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*dabs and buys a facelift of an old game he already owns 3 copies of*

It's blurry without the HD texture pack.
1080p isn't actually much higher than 1024p, you just get extra visibility on the sides but the general detail in the center is exactly the same between the two. Enjoy your blurry game.

Problem is it looks like shit without the pack.

AoE1 lacks the faction (and architecture) variety.
Basically not enough content.
DE remake of AoE1 did nothing to fix those two problems, it made it mechanically identical to AoE2 DE (so waypoints, queuing techs, can see how many villagers on each resource etc) so there's that but it just lacks architecture/faction/unity variety that AoE2 has.

>they really hate tower rushes it seems
Nigger, Teutons are now even more unquestioned best Tower Rush faction because they have free murder holes.

AoE1DE is coming to Steam this or next month while AoE2DE is coming in first week of December, you heard it here first.

Imagine if you could build defensive structures in starcraft away from your base :-)

Tower rush is very surreal.

Based leaker, i think i will finally buy AoE games then. The last time i played then was like 15 years ago and it was pirrated version ofc. Will it run on windows 7?

You mean free Herbal Medicine, they always had free Murder Holes. That's still something of a power jump that relies on having your towers still up in the Castle Age (although you still get the larger garrisons in Feudal).

>Based leaker, i think i will finally buy AoE games then. The last time i played then was like 15 years ago and it was pirrated version ofc. Will it run on windows 7?
AoE1/2DE? Nope.

Hope they fix netcode and desync.

Reminder how pretty it is.

They did ages ago, you'd know if you did research instead of basing your information on AoE2HD launch.

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How do you do this?

It does look very pretty though I was hoping we'd get some farm variety. Asian civs growing rice and meso civs with maize etc.

I'm kinda upset the farm plants are only green now.

There's already rice farms in Rise of Rajas mapsets, you make farms on the shallow water and they change accordingly.

>He plays non-Europeans
Explain yourself, cuck

I'm sorry I like playing the *nglish, Spanish, and italians

So i will have to crack the game to run on my system? It reminds me my old pirrate days :3

It's not a case of crack, it straight up won't boot.

How does it feel to be tech illiterate?

Chinese are sweet, their tech discount bonus is BASED.

>Teutons are now even more unquestioned best Tower Rush faction because they have free murder holes.
When castle age hits. Tower rushing is usually done in the Feudal age. Spanish probably do it better because faster build time.

I enjoy winning.

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this, who the fuck tower rushes in castle age

>TWF bought HD edition but I'm too brainlet for it

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play against ai with friends

Not him but
>Yea Forums
>friends
L M A O

I usually do until I feel confident to go against players but I clocked 20 hours and I still can't get a feel for what I'm supposed to be doing.

>Being retarded
Neck yourself, if you can't figure out what to do in this busted ass game then you're beyond help

how is AOE2 a "busted ass" game?

>He's also retarded

learn to fast castle, it should be illegal to play online if you don't know how to fast castle

Jokes on you, I'm both of the retardeds

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I've learned how to, I've even been practicing with the fast-castle scenario. Problem is I've got no clue what units to go for, how much production I should have, when I should attack, when to expect an attack, when to advance etc.

Watch some pro players like TheViper or whoever and see what they do and how they react. Of course, those kinds of players are also very good at dealing with pressure.

You have been visited by Laura the Riveter.

Come on anons, you c-can do it! D-don't let the thread die now!

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