Super Smash Con 2019

>no dick

B A S E D

Bros... no...not like this...

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Reminder that if you are happy that Samsora won that match YOU are the reason this game is a fucking laughing stock and YOU are the reason this game will never be good

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Peach - High IQ
Joker - Low IQ

SNIFF

time for comms to be ruined?

How about Bowsette instead?

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*floats below the stage at evet oportunity*
psss nothin personnel spic

Zero is also streaming it for 10k viewers.

He isn't gay, jsut very feminine

>nigger dad is absent
>instead of letting little Sam roam the street and hang out with gangs mama sora coddle and is extremely present in his life
>Samsora grows sheltered and sassy due to being best friend with his mom but isn't a druggy.

so ultimate is good for commentary, upsets, and the oddball character?

I wanna have sex with Princess Peach, it's not fair bros

>not wanting to see a player finally beat the one other person he's been struggling with for ages
Also, nice trannylover photo, faggot

BEST BOY

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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO MELEEBROS WTF

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I want to see sam win a major

I think both players are amazing and deserve praise for giving us an amazing set

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wtf i love peach now

files.catbox.moe/pf2q5r.mp4

seething tranny that hates peach

>spic and watch is going to get destroyed by marss
>Mktaco already downloaded
Based Marss is gonna deport the beaners

keep seething spic

post yfw Leo ends up winning anyway

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Leo downloaded and being passed around Piratebay like an Epstein slave

Anyone got any hot takes for Smash Con so far
I unironically really enjoyed Kel's commentating, she's waaaay better then Vicky

Seething Jokerfag

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WOOOOOOO

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seething

Are you 'people' really complaining about using tactics and stategy to win again?

>if riddles just sucked up his pride and camped arsene we would have a Ken in top 8

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>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>this meta
So basically every character in ultimate is Jigglypuff

Where's that wall, amigo?
Should've beaten us at EVO but you were too busy shooting up schools and malls my boy.

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Both did well but it was nice seeing Samsora finally overcoming Leo.

jump off a cliff, spicfag

just about everything has hated tactics, strategies, and various forms of "shit that don't belong in the game"

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there is no rules fighting joker. you use what works for you, because if you suck at pressuring, you NEED to keep away while arsene is up.

thank god sakurai gave us this based character that you can feel no guilt for using any tactic against

>Tweek vs. MKLeo grand finals
>Tweek up 2-0 again, last hit again
>gets reversed 6-0'd again
>Leo doesn't even pop off, just stares at Tweek with a blank expression and his cold, soulless Mexican eyes
>Tweek finally snaps and starts strangling Leo on the main stage, banned from smash forever
Can't wait.

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Fuck off bitch, Melee will still be going strong 5 years from now while Ultimatefags will have moved on to the next shitty watered down Smash game.

Would be a cool storyline if he wasn't playing Peach

How the fuck can you be someone who dislikes Joker but be okay with how Peach plays this fucking game?

You can't without being a massive faggot and having massive mental damage

You only need that against Arsene because Arsene is far too deadly to go against head-on.

he never stood a chance...

She's very insightful, but gets too loud. Vikki has learned to tone it down recently and her commentary has gotten better because of it. Kels should follow suit and reserve her excitement for worthy plays.

Haha white folk absolutely dabbed on.

LET'S GO PELO

>tag is "they"
zozzle

What does his name mean again?

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Wow he camped him under the stage for 20 seconds every time arsene was out it only took him 6 set losses to figure out he could do that that was so hyp.. Fucking gay ass peach nigger.

He probably would've stuck with Richter

The End of Smash Con

>WOOOOOOOO
Is this the Bethesda intern

i want peach to peach bomb with my fat, greasy and hairy ass

calm down mkleo

>How the fuck can you be someone who dislikes Joker but be okay with how Peach plays this fucking game?
I never said I disliked Joker, you fucking faggot. Use your brain.

How does WOOBRO keep bringing SOUL to every tourney?

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>years of melee niggers shitting on smash 4 because of muh viewership
>ultimate beating melee in viewership

HAHAHAHAHA FUCK MELEE FAGS

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Holy shit lmao

he actually damage-drained arsene's meter more than he lamed him out

Well she's actually a professional so knows her shit.

Blame Arsene

god is my revenue

You are okay with Peach not only existing in the game but you are okay with her winning matches in any capacity.

You are a cancer to the game

>leffen makes a video saying that you only have to wait arsene out for the match to be more winnable
>it works
>then goes to show the entire population of spacies in melee how to actually fight against a floaty character
So he basically solved two games right?

cope

gTHREE
mADS
iA
rSET

Stop. This is a thread for talking about SSC, take your game war shit somewhere else.

>wojak
why are you people so addicted to this ugly thing

It's okay Pablo. He's not out yet.

Gerbils in my rectum

Gargles
immense
man
Rods

>views already back down to 64k
It was just MKLeo losing that spiked it. Melee is still king.

>gmir

ask the autistic melee faggots starting shit you biased nigger

@473801590
Don't even deserve a (You)
I have no idea what your brain-damage is, but you're a faggot.

Most of the cast can't really afford to try to camp out Arsene

>playing smash with someone
>call his character gay
>bro don't do that you know better
what the fuck do I do

>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO COUNTERPLAY YOU HAVE TO LET LEO WIN
Okay spic

By forcing him to approach by projectile camping.

Get
In
My
Roastie Pussy

>king
>smash
a very low bar

get inside my rear

Kill yourself, peach lover

I like Ultimate more than Melee, that doesn't change the fact that you're contributing to inane game war bullshit. Go away.

>taunt to almost get bodied combo
I bet Marss felt the sweat between his crach on that one

yeah, mkleo did throw a lot of eihas and eigons

This stupid ass really taunted?

Maister deserved to land a 9 on him.

C&C reboot is looking a little rough

MEXIBROS, WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING? THIS IS OUR GAME, OUR GAME!

PAY
THOSE
BILLS

imagine how puffy her pusy would be

I could say literally the same thing about Hbox losing. Cope.

>banjo head
>not sure if to be happy or be annoyed by furfag

apologize for your rude language and call it homosexual

This A lot of characters have to go into disadvantage state to avoid Joker.

That's what Marss does. That's what he's always done.

higher than any fighting game

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cringe

66k, and Zero restream it so that 8.5k more viewers.

>counterplay is literally just running off the stage and floating for 10 seconds in the middle under part before grabbing the ledge and doing it again
Why did it take 6 entire match losses and 3 games for this nigger to figure this out?

Stop talking like you're on Yea Forums in real life, that's what

>no stinky lines

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If I get a 9 Maister will too on his next hammer.

>do that
>get cancelled
give me a real answer please

too bad my 5 nulifies your 9

What's wrong with peach? She requires twice as much skill and technical knowledge of any high tier character. Has to work to rack up damage and does not have any ridiculously early kills. She's not super dominant or prevalent in the meta, and only samsora is getting real results. It's bitching like this that will cause actual fair top tiers to get nerfed into the ground and allow for dlc power creep bs

OH FUCK

Literally most of the ultimate players make that face

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gay in many regions

Viewershipfags should kill themselves. Please.

fuck you
I've been calling shit gay well before I ever came on Yea Forums

Peach doesn’t need to approach she can just pull turnips unanswered it’s been this way since melee.

>woke up this morning and the knuckles on my hand were bright red
>hand feels even more stiff and uncomfortable than usual
is there any cure for arthritis

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>crouching under all these attacks
based

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and smellier too

i still saw more projectiles out of joker, so i fail to see your point

Remember these people because these are the people who are responsible for this shit game

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First, as mentioned, that's easier said than done for most characters.

Second, it's pointless for pretty much everyone (except Samsora, Marss and Tweek) as Leo can trash them without arsene anyway

>they started it
hahahahahaha

it's okay port we can play pacman one day

He had to do that because he loses if he approaches peach and Samsora started camping first. It didn’t even work for him as you see literally none of joker’s projectiles landed.

>already back to 67k again
lmao stay deluded you retarded melee fag

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Yeah, I know Smash games are being watched. We are here watching them.

do you have an actual argument or are you just mad your favorite character or player lost?

totally

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lol maister what the fuck was that

The fuck? Lmao

read the thread you illiterate faggot

Maister choking

gold is my right

Meister what the fuck

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>G&W player being blackmailed
This is why ultimate sucks

MAISTER NO

The fix is in

Why does every marss set have to have a dumb SD?

>seething this hard because people call your game boring going to the extent of making images that have nothing to do with the game or saving them just to shitpost without actually giving retorts

I mean, I get that people can be mad for the slightest things but you are taking it to another level, take your pills

What the fuck was that

>these parachute chokes
What the fuck?

The absolute unit

captain zack sends his regards

>CAPTAIN MARS
EE
BASED
AS
FUCK

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kek

THE FIX IS IN

Top level gameplay

>throwing

Gays Into My Rectum

what a god

Why does chat keep spamming Zack? Who is he?

>even the fatties have better hygiene than smashfags
how do they do it?

DAYUM who is that in the middle?

Match fixing?

Is Maister having a stroke?

maister is beyond fucking tilted

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found another one of captainzack's boy toys

>Thowing
>Rigged
>Choking
Choose one user

Commentators making jokes about a fix is goddamn hilarious

>tfw the adderall wears off midset

>Click on stream.
>It's the Animal Crossing stage.
>Turn off stream.

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>missing the point
>doubling down
hahahahahahahahaha!

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God I love this commentary

match fixing?

GIMR RIGGING GAMES TO GET VIEWS

Keep sucking Peach cock, buddy

If maister loses like this I'll be so sad

>you 1-1'd?
>make it look convincing, doomp it

They don’t

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God game and watch is so boring to watch this is dragging on for way too long. No wonder his fans are so autistic

>tilted
The fuck does this mean?

HIT THAT NINE ON HER WHITE ASS MAISTER

Mad and playing poorly because of it.

sloppy ass shit maister

RIGGED

It basically means nervous. It comes from pinball, when people who were getting nervous would literally tilt the machine.

nice try melee cuck

Nairo is gonna get anally ravaged

Quick, someone look up how many times Captain Zack and Maister have interacted

"On the edge" but in a bad way.

nairo will win

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>better complexion than smashfags
holy moly

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt_(poker)

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He had a good run

you hate to see it

Yea Forums is kill

Zack rigging extra hard tonight

>Maister, make it believable

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>maister was doing really good everywhere else
>might have won if not for the sd's
F, what a disappointing way to end his run

are you literally 12

not kill just constipated

>Maister

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WHAT
THE
FUCK
WAS
THAT

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The fuck was that, maister wtf

last match was fixed

Fuck I wish I had some adderall

Take a shower already, stinky

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Yes but now all of the people that said Smash 4 would kill Melee and that it was the better game trash on it like they never enjoyed it. Just like you'll inevitably do with Ultimate when the new game comes out.

If that was a fix, that was so disappointing. I really enjoy watching Maister play.

Is it just me or is this top 8 better than melees?

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user anyone could SD 3 times after making it to top 8.

so maister vs marss had to be collusion, right? that made no sense

Sorry watching sets

did the thread fucking die for a bit for anyone else?

who do you think maister is in a relationship and how did zack find out?

>retarded marvel subhuman is also a meleegro
yikes

yeah, I thought that was my shitty internet
what was that?

yup

>you people
what the FUCK does that mean? the racism on this board is fucking insane

yeah, I got a few connection errors

King Crimson randomly cutting small chunks of stream so it keeps skipping for me

[throwing intensifies]

fuck palutena women are for breeding

How much did Leo pay for all these SDs

Nairo, please

Probably someone posted real c*nny

what you don't like puff and marth on opposite sides of a tree waiting for it to go away?

>ultimate top 8 is more entertaining than Melee top 8

wtf happened?

I think the thread died for a bit because everyone was flooding it with rigged match posts

It was Zack.

Ultimate is actually a good game though. The things you meleefags think is wrong with it are nitpicks that no one with logic gives a shit about. Ultimate will outlive melee

>suicides left and right
no

Who the fuck are you kidding you retardedmelee fags? Everyone was celebrating when your trash game got cucked out of evo

I thought this con was supposed to be the biggest smash event ever and there's only a handful of people in the audience

nothing happened,you just have shit taste

Melee is older than you are, eat shit fags

The whole site doesn't go down when someone posts CP

No need to fix any of nairo’s matches because he’s garbage

literally the exact same thing happened when Maister played Marss at Full Bloom
who writes this script?

wojakfags are subhumans

Like clockwork :^)

That's what happens when Hbox plays like shit

FUCK MARRY KILL
PEACH PALU ZSS

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Zack was jealous as Ally, a Canadian player, was getting high placements because he's a One-Trick Bayonetta and now that Ultimate makes Bayonetta play Smash instead of Marvel 2, all the Bayo's started to drown in pools as expected.

They were in a relationship, which was frowned upon because Zack was like 16 and Ally was pushing 30 at the time of their relationship. and he basically blackmailed him into throwing matches because he couldn't handle being a washed up has-been and that Ally was actually a good player. It was all for naught because Ally was bullied out of the community because Zack's goons kept calling him a pedophile until it stuck and all Zack got was a slap on the wrist (he lost his sponsor) even though Ally was the victim in all of this.

So now it's basically a meme to say Zack wnever it seems like someone throws a match.

he should pick joker again just for laughs

Kill them all

Fuck ZSS, marry Peach, kill Palutena

anyone else noticing that leo is basically just straight up losing neutral over and over until arsene comes out, like every single stock
thought that was interesting

>fuck
Palu
>marry
ZSS
>kill
Peach

If you think watching Zain dashback grab, aMSa losing to a literal who due to bracket luck, and Hungrybox doing his usual shit for a hour was entertaining than I think you need to review your tastes

Holy shit, Nairo is playing so well. Why doesn't he always play like this?

I'm pretty sure Zack is banned from all official Smash tournaments now, they let him run EVO because everything broke the day before it.

RIGGED

Lmao I can't imagine seething this much because people enjoy a different game, kinda sad. I guess that's the state of zoomers though, high skillcap is intimidating to them

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What are you talking about user?
Maister can't win against top players.
The script says so.

>people start just ignoring Arsene and not fighting him at all
>suddenly Leo starts losing a lot more

>back to 70k
M-meleebros...?

That one fat guy with no one around him lol

>Fuck
ZSS
>Marry
Palu
>Kill
Peach

Fuck Zss
Marry Palu
Kill Peach

Zack hasn't been permabanned yet despite blackmailing and rigging matches?

Kill all three, fuck and marry true best girl who should be in Smash

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Zack is only banned from this event and 2gg events.

fuck palu
marry zss
kill peach

fuck samus
kill peach
marry palutena

Or better, Hero

Maybe not all, but at least all hosted by 2gg

People are starting to catch up with him.
Just like when he used Lucina and Ike, innovating then people figuring it out.
I like Leo but him just taking everything effortless is no fun, so this is great.

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sometimes it does when the shitposter is relentless. Usually the mods are quick to delete it but some mods decide to jerk off to it instead.

haha she was so funny remember her funny dance haha

NAIRO PLEASE

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he was banned from competing at this event and he's been banned from all 2gg events. i'd expect a permaban to be coming down the pipe soon enough

marry peach
fuck zss
kill palu

post it

>People are starting to take games off Leo
The mexico age is over

Nairo's unabashedly an emotional person and he's inconsistent as fuck in the same set depending on his momentum.

>Marth is l-lame to watch guys I s-swear
Hbox literally got 6-0’d too what else could you possibly want besides leffen zain gfs?

You're right, hero would be more hype

It's pretty crazy. Feels like MKLeo isn't defending properly. There's a lot of unsafe aerials coming out from Palutena.

>anytime leo loses a stock the crowd cheers

Fuck you guys, Leo is probably the coolest dominant player for his game. Hbox is a faggot as was Zero but Leo seems like a bro

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this fucker gonna get his region range banned...

LEO BROS WHAT HAPPENED
OH NONONONONONO

YOOOO

how do you say washed up in your country?

The big choke is coming.

>It's a Nairo beats MKLeo episode
I thought this one was lost footage?

NAIROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

JESUS CHRIST HOW IS NAIRO PLAYING SO WELL

Melee top 8 had random Peach and Zain wasting time, plus Hbox as usual.
only n0ne and Leffen were hype.
Ultimate isn't that hype to be honest but it's still new and fresh at least

>Joker is brok—

NOOOOOOOOO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
GET IT TOGETHER LEO

Always root for the underdog, faggot.

It's just the Underdog effect man, trust me everyone loves Leo

>Leo's actually shook

holy shit is this it?

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Where are the Heros? I thought he was OP?

Joker is the most boring character in smash history. He literally forced his opponents to stall.

JOKER EXPOSED

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NO YOU GUYS ARE RUINING THE GAME LEO CAN'T LOSE NO NO NO

>YOOOO
The absolute state of Yea Forums, of course when Ultimate top 8 is on all the zoomers come out

Hopefully he'll get discord links banned instead.

>people thinking maister threw
He fucked up in a similar way last time he played Marss
besides, if you were going to throw you'd do it in a way less obvious manner

Nah, Leo is great. I'm rooting for Nairo tho, it's been a long s time since he's played like this.

>Mexican
>First thing he does after winning EVO is make a fucking tweet about how happy he is
>doesn't even call his parents first and thank them for everything
he's a disgrace desu

what the fuck i wanted to see mkleo's secondary fuuuuuck why is he still going joker

People finally learning how to fight joker.

>it's fun to have the same person win over and over!

Remember guys, Nairo is the king of Jobber.
He's losing this.

Are we seriously going to have a Nairo vs Samsora grand finals?

NAIRO UPRISING

Leo's great but it's just boring seeing the same person win again and again. No one disrespects him, they just want entertainment, absolutely everyone knows how much he's contributed to the scene compared to most players.

Still the Evo champion and number 1 on the power rankings :)

Unironically, what the fuck is happening to MkLeo

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They are just sad human beings and trash players. Same to everyone in this thread that like to complain about Joker and Leo. Fucking incels. Cheers for Paulu and Peach too. Sad

It would be pure fucking kino

>arsene upB
>actually worse than regular upB
what other lies has sakurai told us?

Can samsora beat tweek?

>smashcon
I don't know bro

nairo has beaten leo twice already. leo is 3-2 against him in ultimate
liquipedia.net/smash/index.php?title=Special:RunQuery/Match_history&Head_to_head_query[player]=Nairo

If this goes to game 5, Leo will wash Nairo

>unironically thinking nairo will win the set

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Kill all 3 and fuck the girl whos winning the tournament

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>if you were going to throw you'd do it in a way less obvious manner
That’s literally the exact same people said about sc2 when all the top Koreans were throwing matches for money lmao

Leo also plays one of the coolest top tiers in ult. Jokers got cool movement, combos, and just style everywhere but people hate the character cause leo dominates with him.

>hey guys
>what?
>what if we...don't rush Arsene?

How well did Hero perform? Do stupid fucks still say he's "broken"?

(You)

Ah yes, the "YEET", the true mark of a smash 4 player

It’s boring when the game actually requires skill to play and tournament results confirm this?

Make it less obvious next time 2/10

Nairo you fucking idiot you just had to wait like 2 more seconds

>marvel subhuman
>muh meleegro
keep seething, underage

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>Nario loses the moment he runs at Arsene Joker
Idiot.

Take out 2 of those and you'll be golden my man.

@473804264
yikes

you're trying way too hard man

lmao bro let me just dive headfirst into Arsene instead of waiting 5 seconds bro trust me

Wait why the fuck are they playing with game cube controllers?

This actually, superboomfan is lame in a game where you can do so much fun shit, hbox literally needs a broken character to win, and brawl and smash 4 were trash so they don't count

Nairo could've won that. He had to wait out Arsen for just a single second.

I don't mind leo at all he's chill, but Nairo is based and fuck Joker

Joker gain too much bar from getting hit, gain too little for hitting the opponent, and doesn't lose enough when getting hit with Arsene.

2 seconds is a long time

Literally only salem played him

OH NO NAIFUS

WE GOT TOO COCKYYYY

I want to say no, but if he beat Leo...

This is a gamecube game.

>don't rush Arsene
>win
>rush Arsene
>loses
hmmm

Nairo or MkLeo, lads?

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No one actually hates Leo, unlike Zero and HBox. The dude's pretty harmless. It's just that the more you win, the more people will want to see others win. It's pretty simple. Even if MKLeo still keeps winning, it's not like people are going to throw crabs at him or something.

It's boring when one player is more skilled than all the others. People want to see everyone reaching Leo's level, not Leo turning retard, you retard; and right now everyone is watching the meta develop on big stage.

GAME 5 LADS

>>>/facebook/

He found out about the epstien connections.

>zoomer humor

nairo

damn leo and his stupid plot armor

>charges usmash
lol y

Why is everyone suprised about Nairo doing so well? its a broken character vs another broken character.

FUCKING ARSENE

Jesus christ, fuck Arsene

>Arsene is bala-

Trying too hard to what? Who hurt you? You incels are literally depicting Peach as a sex object.

its the same shit as cloud limit
instead of being a reward of you live a stock to late % they want it to be a guaranteed undeniable bonus you get literally every single stock at least once
and then hes just a good character on top of it

nice impression of a twitter virgin, user, well done

becuase Nairo's washed, duh

>rebel gaurds your recovery
heh better luck next time kid

>what is 2-framing

>only beat his Ike
doesn't count

that was some pretty fucking heavy joker carry

>takes 70%
>gets full Arsene meter
And considering how long he usually lives, that's way too early

Ahh yes the counter arsene meta developing which consists of running off under the stage and floating for 10 seconds before grabbing the ledge and doing it again, such skillful “counterplay” that took months for top 10 players to figure out.

recoveries are utterly ridiculous now

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>broken character
>palutena
>broken

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>that upair killed
OK, that was fucking dumb

>over 100% lead
>edgeguarded multiple times
>LOL ARSENE
Fair and balanced.

will nairo ever not choke

Arsene is fucking trash

Leo's Joker is starting to look worse than his Lucina

fuck i meant edgegaurd

choke-iro

>what is a far easier bair/dair that he landed on multiple other attempts
???????????

I want to cum inside Peach

Even IF Nairo beat Leo, you do know Tweek is still on winners side. Winner's Tweek is arguably the best player.

>pretending you know what youre talking about
yeah bro if he just ledgestalled like my fav player hungrybox he'd win easy!

As expected.

Told you guys, KING OF JOBBER

Nairetard

Tragic.

Nairo you fucking choker.

I don't know how you can defend Joker after that set.

LET'S FUCKING GO LEO

>Joker literally cannot be zero-to-death'd because he'll build Arsene before getting gimped

How so?

O MY POWER GHOST RECOVERY

Based, despite what these retards think Palutena is one of if not THE hardest character in the game, there's a reason not many do well with her

Worked before.

Leo just does not get phased. The longer the set goes on the more flustered his opponents get. Leo just has no emotions and can't be shook.

tell me after that game 3 that joker shouldnt be nerfed

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE FOR SO MANY TOP PLAYERS TO CHOKE SO HARD

THIS SHIT HAS TO BE RIGGED

>People will blame joker instead of nairo playing like an absolute idiot
This community sucks

Joker is legit mid-tier no matter what people say, this play is really impressive

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NAIFU ARMY THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TOURNAMENT

People are actually fucking trying now.

Recoveries in Ultimate are so fucking stupid, would anyone actually miss these stupid recoveries if they were nerfed in general?

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>the nigga running in place

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>Winner's Tweek is arguably the best player.
That was a huge "arguably" just last week

JOKER HATERS?

JOKER HATERS?

JOKER HATERS?
JOKER HATERS?
JOKER HATERS?

JOKER HATERS?

JOKER HATERS?
JOKER HATERS?

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god I hate Arsene so fucking much

It really shouldn't have, that was terrible DI

Like at EVO?

rip nairo but i think he's 4th now?

>DUURRRR LEO IS THE ONLY RELEVANT JOKER!!!!!!
Fuck this piece of shit character

I hope Leo is forced into more game 5s today. This was the third time today. Joker is getting figured out?

>/OURSPIC/
/OURSPIC/
>/OURSPIC/
/OURSPIC/
>/OURSPIC/
/OURSPIC/

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Nairo deserved to lose. All he had to do was wait a single second for Arsene to leave at the end of game 4.

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it literally is. did CaptainZack teach you nothing?

and its like 40% if hes at a stock disadvantage because he has lucario aura rubberbanding for some reason

Nairo is a professional choke artist. He gets antsy and makes dumb mistakes. The game was decided the moment he failed to seal out the first stock.

>you can't edgeguard Arsene

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Why the FUCK didn't he try to edgeguard that recovery??

joker carries players online so he'll be nerfed eventually

That motherfucker made me spit my drink out.

only part of that which was fucked was that leo got arsene despite doing ZERO damage himself. Otherwise Leo deserved all of that in my opinion

GIVE SAM YOUR ENERGY

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I usually defend Leo but this time Joker seriously carried him. He got bailed out so hard by Arsene. That was fucking bullshit.

Nairo and Samsora are favorites

Joker is definitely a high tier dude. Top 15 in the game easy

\o/

>almost 80k for ultimate
OH NO MELEEBROS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO

I doubt kameme complains about joker

>Doesn't wait for Arsene to run out
>shitty as DI that gets him killed at 80%
>only gets kills with backthrow
>can't even finish a gimp and let's joker get Arsene out
Get fucked Nairo

>character wins
>omg how can you defend this
you faggots love this patch culture don't ya.
ya'll can't git gud on your own?

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>both of our guys

WHO THE FUCK DO I ROOT FOR

Leo is just letting all these favored top players get 2 games up on him just to give everyone hope and them knock them down. Tweek, Zackray, now Nairo.

literally just don't get tilted and rush arsene like a moron

Comeback mechanics is such a shit concept.

>The game was decided the moment he failed to seal out the first stock.

He SEALED it, that stock is his if not because of Arsene bullshit recovery.

CaptainZack was never good. He was Bayo carried.

More like Leo is getting paid under the table to extend games to game 5

Rent free

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Joker is high tier but Leo is just so fucking good that he looks like the best character in the game.

I legit didn't even dislike Joker for a long time, I thought people were just buttmad that Leo was dominating with a new main. But Leo legitimately got outplayed for a majority of that set and still won because ungabunga arsene.

Joker is what Hero is going to be in two months when nips maximize his efficiency

Keep saying it

getting rewarded for being hit is fucking stupid and every game needs to stop it

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Tell that to fucking DBFZ and GT Goku.

So, if Arsene encourages opponents to just play lame and avoid conflict for significant portions of matches which is terrible to watch and play against then should he be changed?

I honestly don't know why people keep hyping up his Arsene-Joker. MkLeo's base Joker is far more deadly than Arsene..He plays his best when there's no Arsene out.

People are learning the Joker matchup after EVO, but clearly there's still being mistakes made.

if joker is broken then why aren't more people playing him

Yeah remember when he won Evo? Oh wait his win against Leo was a fluke

Make Joker balanced with 1 change.

>still not even close to grand finals
UNLIMITED POWER

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>only joker
>in LOSERS
>Nairo might have won if he didn't choke (yet again)
also, see

God thing Nairo edge guarded with that Up Smash when Leo was below the stage right?
Fucking dumbass tranny dilate have sex seethe cope etc

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Lol you thought they were gonna make a 3rd party character bad?

>now your chance squirtle
>go ivysaur
>just a little more charizard
>get back charizard
>up the butt charizard

>game rewards you for getting carried off by 100+% in follow ups with a free recovery

Crutch character

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t. zoomer who never experienced UMvC3

>Stands on the edge and does some pathetic up smash instead of just down airing him

He deserved to lose.

nairo is a retard for trying to 2frame a recovery that goes in a literal straight line without a hitbox, when palutena has the easiest to hit spike in the entire game

That's because then he got sent to losers, and everyone knows Loser's Tweek is a terrible player that even your casual friends can beat.

Adapt, faggot

Samsora played the matchup right. Nairo was too, he just got too shaken by the end.

>do a smash attack with slow recovery frames the wrong way
>get punished for it
WOOOOOW BROKEN

>Bullshit recovery
If nairo jumped out and naired instead of Up smashing at the ledge like an idiot he would've killed leo

That recovery in game 5 was some bullshit, but honestly Nario threw it so hard in game 4 it's hard to not call it there.

You only get him once per stock.

Went from getting 0-100'd to the literal end of the blastzone to that. Good on Leo for capitalizing on that but hot damn I'm salty for Nairo.

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you know there's a rule stating racism isn't allowed outside of Yea Forums. I've been banned for it.

Because people are retarded
There weren’t many good Bayonetta characters at first either but look what happened to Smash 4

up smash has a shitbox that hit belows the stage, moron.

samsora overcame his mkleo demon so im backing him today

No Arsene. Oh, look at that, it's Sheik except way better.

He didn't get carried by the meter itself you fucking brainlet. The time's where Arsene came in clutch was when he made the initiative to get him back after losing him quickly. Twice he brought back Arsene by using rebel's guard on Paulutena edgeguard moves which is all about player skill and player agency, not just inting and getting Arsene as a comeback mechanic

cry more

arsene is much stronger but only lasts for 5-10 seconds

Lol; if you're implying in any way that Palutena is strong you're as wrong as it gets. There's a reason only Nairo scratches the surface of her skillcap - she's arguably the hardest character right up there with Peach. Keep coping.

less reward in damage taken to arsene meter
there, that's all he needs

damn melee fags look like that?

heavily reduce meter gained from being damaged, increase meter gain by dealing damage.

Do you not remember Zero? Everyone just seemed to choke against him.

Increase the amount of Arsene meter you lose when taking damage

Nuking entire teams with Dark Phoenix on Triple Xfactor was fun, but I'm not going to deny it being retarded as hell

Playing lame is gay and shouldn’t even be an option we should just nerf gay characters like peach and megaman.

He's talking about the Ally situation

Arsen meter can only be charged by the counter

literally just get rid of the leftover charge when you kill him with arsene on, make him start from the beginning

He got outplayed mostly in his Arsene form though. He was doing most of his damage and kills as normal Joker..

>Tweeks become a tranny

>Everyone mad

Go watch that game 5 and see how nervous Nairo was getting while Leo remained an emotionless stoic robot.
Save the emotions for after you win, not during the game.

wow where did all the joker haters go?

No meter from getting hit, but you get a little more from successful Rebel's Guard

>Ultibabies crying nerf this character after literally every match

This is why your will never be a legit competitive game

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>leo almost gets eliminated
>Stream almost reaches 80k
>manages to win
>stream goes back to 70k

lol

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Well, great thing he used it 3 times during this Top 8 and non worked, meanwhile his down air worked twice and once spiking Leo but didn't opt for that.
CHOKE

Fucking retard

I fucking hate magnetic ledges. Edge guarding shouldn't come down to a janky two frame window.

This game is going to time

Nairo was the king of chokers back in 4

But there was a lot of bayo players at first. Pink fresh started running xanadu, Captain zack started becoming relevant, and that 9b guy starting competing with the best in japan. Its literally only leo doing well with joker

Reduce meter gain

>3 minutes left
>both players have 2 stocks left

>increase meter gain by dealing damage
currently he doesn't gain any meter from dealing damage
if he gained meter from dealing damage then it's just be another smash 4 cloud entirely

Brawl was best game.

Rebel guard has the same block properties as a traditional counter.

>jokerfags are now shifting the blame to emotions
You idiots will use any excuse possible to defend this poorly balanced character

Joker couldn't survive that without Arsene wings.
Not many character can survive that.

The fact that he got get out of jail card when he got bodied is bullshit.
Nobody should be rewarded for playing like shit.

Just make it so he doesn't gain meter faster when he's down a stock. That's it. That's all he needs.

...

Edgeguard sequences shouldn't be so fucking long in the first place. Recoveries and ledges are too safe in Ultimate.

Put the players in a tier list

>Fucking retard
Nice ad hominem; it's apparent you can't refute my points. Good fucking luck going anywhere with Palutena, despite how easy she can be to pick up casually, winning against any competent opponent takes immense skill especially when compared to the effort of the likes of Peach/Joker. Then again; I don't expect much from someone who likely isn't in Elite Smash.

Because Joker gets rewarded more for getting beat on than doing well. Nairo put 70% on him and had him dead without taking a hit but Arsene bailed him out, and then all it took was one hit from Arsene to make it even again. It's awful design.

eat a dick

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>muh underdogs
America is literally a shithole with people with genetics as bad as niggers from africa no wonder people behave like this

Just started watching. Who put Leo in losers?

It's raining hard over here bros
Good mood good atmosphere

git gud

Samsora

samsora

Samsora by playing like a passive faggot

Stop replying to me and learn to read to the first post like that other tranny please.

PUNISHED SAMSORA
A MAN DENIED HIS MAJOR WINS

effaysora

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>America
Who?

Who the fuck even cares about the game? These should all just be nintendo porn threads. That's it.

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Not only thta but trying to 2frame with usmash when he has his dtilt that kill confirms and is easier to land.

Why didn't they just copy TvC for comeback mechanics?

make him gain less meter by doing damage or using rebel's guard instead of by getting hit

>he didnt enjoy how retarded Virgil was

eiga/eihan costs arsene meter to use. like 5%

you really really should get some sort of decent amount of like, super meter or something for being hit in a real fighting game so I guess Smash can only up the damage/knockback you do in that regard

Why is tweek playing as a girl

embarrassing no wonder this series died

Are you implying that the US isn’t the majority of the viewers on twitch and they don’t always go “muh underdog” in every single competitive thing ever

Thread is dying post tits

Why is Ultimate having higher viewership than Melee?

Except most of the stocks MkLeo lost were when Arsene is out. Face it, Arsene is powerful but not OP as people hype it to be. His aerial, while has nice range, is actually worse than his grappling hook in every way.

Arsene is a a down B summon with only like 2 uses per stock, after that it's just the counter/reflect attack

The only thing that would make me more upset is a Dark Phoenix clip.

I think you know the answer to that already user

Because Smash sucks

What happened to the lewdposters?

Melee waiting room

He's really about to take how the two "best" players

Think they migrated to the other thread already half of it is softcore shit too
Where's the tits

No you retard, Joker is supposed to have a mediocre recovery without Arsene but he doesn't, and if he ever does get gimped he gets enough meter from being hit a shitton due to his decent recovery options to activate Arsene and bail himself out, and suddenly he has advantage for no reason when he gets back on stage. That's a fucking failure of a character design.

No
I don't follow this stuff so I have no idea who it is.

>Loser's Tweek
absolutely free for Leo.

Ultimate is fun and not a solved game.

>It's that one Palutena player who thinks Ridley is broken because he can't win against him reliably despite playing a character that counters him

>Top 4 PGR is the remaining 4
I know people say that the top 3 is just leagues apart from everyone else but I feel like Samsora just reached their level.