Deb's back, and she's got a fresh cup of coffee ready to take it into the AM. In case you don't know it...

Post obscure parts of the World of Darkness you'd like to see in 2.

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There's an option with the plus patch to not cast animations, the guy playing it must have disable it during installation.

I will also put in a nosferatu run when the nights are longer, and before the sequel comes out.

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Ugh why is Chinatown so racist bros?

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because Asian accents are racist

whats some /vampire/-core music
youtube.com/watch?v=Sx5FP0SSEYc

Aren't mages supposed to be ridiculous? Or maybe that's the space station tech dudes

So Yea Forums, which clan has the best song at Succubus Club and why is it Tzimisce?
>youtube.com/watch?v=vympzV240mM

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I'm still holding out for Deb to show up somewhere in the next game, but I'm afraid to hold my breath for it.

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Every character with an Asian accent was done by an Asian voice actor.

youtube.com/watch?v=wa0pK7u5CGY

It's hard to nail that industrial gothy feeling.

It's racist dude

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No fucking way are you not exaggerating.

Make an effort to do things differently when replaying it. Like try an Unarmed build with Gangrel, or a high/max Humanity run, or a low/zero Humanity run, or max out all your Disciplines and then learn a 4th Discipline, or just use completely different solutions to every quest that allows multiple solutions, etc. There's a surprising variety in how you can approach the game.

Listen to the full albums of bands featured in the game while playing

Haven't they confirmed new Deb of Night? Or am I mistaken?

wtf, man, that’s racist

Bauhaus. Especially their first album.

Personally, some old school Visual Kei comes pretty close to that flamboyant gothy vampire aesthetic.
>youtube.com/watch?v=HlXSl4Nv5YM
>youtube.com/watch?v=mSzfNkZRNu0
>youtube.com/watch?v=xAxlJRpZy1o
Bonus points for Malice Mizer, because they made this incredibly cringy musical short movie about a vampire kidnapping a girl(male).
>youtube.com/watch?v=Vdd58pTaK8A
But some death rock is also good.
>youtube.com/watch?v=H7yAltXbnvE
No unfortunately, the actress wants though. What they did confirm, as far as I remember, was something similar.

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I thought the voice actress confirmed that she hadn't been asked back yet, but I could be wrong.

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>people are still optimistic after seeing this unemotional golem

Where my blood mages at?

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This is sad

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Tremere scum will taste justice.
-ToreadorGang

It is sad. There was a similar Facebook post from Chiasm saying they didn't ask her to come back either, even though she was willing. I have nothing against Schaffer and Mitsoda, but I think people really started worshipping them as celebrities too much and overhyping what it means for only them to be working on the sequel. Many more people contributed to the music and dialogue of the original and none of them are working on 2. VtMB's OST was great but Chiasm, Darling Violetta, and Genitorturers get talked about just as much as the hub themes, maybe even more.

If you haven't already, do a Malkavian run.

The Toreadors care about justice?

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i'm still kind of hoping to be surprised that they're putting some great bands in this like the previous one, but some seem to want to go for a modern tone and modern tone does apparently not equate to gothic rock.

>but some seem to want to go for a modern tone and modern tone does apparently not equate to gothic rock.
Yeah, the music playing in the club they showed has people repeating the catchy lyrics but it just doesn't feel right in tone. Lots of people are complaining about the loss of goth stuff in the sequel. 2's club looks more like a disco club.

some do
whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Madame_Guil
All vampires have some individual traits regardless of clan.

God look at that fat fucking losers pro pic

I hope that song was a placeholder or that each another area has atleast more gothic stuff. If not, then people will mod in music, but it won't be the same nonetheless.

yeah they are, this guy is just a vampirefag

These threads kept getting Magefags coming in and derailing them by talking about powerlevels. Someone made that chart to troll them.

The ending was so unbelievably shit that it killed my enthusiasm for a second play-through. Matrix Toreodor was fun though

i liked the ending. What would you have hoped for instead?

Clan stereotypes are just stereotypes. But you're more likely to sire someone who shares your views and weird kinks, thus perpetuating clan culture.

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i can never unsee that giraffe neck. but i'm sure they'll fix it.

very true

Anything besides "A WINNER IS YOU" or the alternate Fallout 3 solution to ending a story. Thinking of Fallout some sort of post credits ending section giving some form of context to your actions and their consequences would be an ideal fix.

who's the artist for this?

I sided with Lacroix so for me it wasn't exactly a win. Maybe that's why i liked it

>Highschool, in the gaming nerd circle
>Be the guy who has a metric fuck-ton of dice so get invites to groups often.
>Invited to VtM game, sure why not.
>Make a Chad Ventrue that can only feed from red-heads.
>Take several points in herd and say I have several live-in employees, all red-heads, who I feed from.
>Several sessions in, party gets wrecked by Assamar assassins, barely alive. Take everyone back to penthouse, bank favors for letting them use my herd.
>GM describes all herd members as thin, waifish, jailbait redheads, malnurished to the point of looking like children, all wearing skimpy maid/butler/chef outfits.
>mfw

And that's why I don't play vampire with anyone.

That's the Fallout 3 solution, i.e. kill the pc to avoid having to give a proper ending. It's very clear they hadn't thought out the ending beyond the design doc of pick a faction, blood hunt, cask goes BOOM by the time they ran out of money. Simply put it's not just the level designers who were told to wrap up pronto. Just something, anything, to give your choices some context in the wider world. But I guess since the meta-plot was still going on they were limited on that front as well.

>the nosferatu’s shitty network security is what finally broke the masquerade

>something similar

I can live with that.

What'd be cool would be if there were 2 radio stations: 1 for talk, and 1 for music. The talk radio would be crazy shit like in the original and with a humor focus. The music would be dark dance music like in the original, but like a full album's worth of tracks that play on repeat with fake commercials in between.

No shit?

>but i'm sure they'll fix it.

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>"A WINNER IS YOU"

nigga what the fuck did you do? there's like 5 endings, at least a couple of which even have an alternate variation. if you got a "good" ending then you were in the minority.

>What'd be cool would be if there were 2 radio stations: 1 for talk, and 1 for music
I'm pretty sure thats going to be a major dlc focal point. Different "podcasts", online radios and shit, each one of them five dollars.
At least the tv stuff is still on.

What mods are worth playing? I'm not counting the Plus Patch as a "mod".

Been waiting on my mates to start running a game. Rate my character.

Tabletop games are the fucking best for taking the piss.

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That is some serious bullshit if they lock radio behind DLC.

My neck is augmented.

Clan Quest Mod is probably the best one with the highest quality new content. You can also choose to mostly leave the base game alone while only getting its new content.

DMC5 sold music as DLC. Wouldn't surprise me if VtMB2 does it.

It's still a title from Paradox and this offers a nice way to explore that dlc money while looking like a "good" guy.

Source?

There seems to be a lot of talk about DLC and this game, and they confirmed some Season of the Wolf thing down the line, but I'm pretty worried the game will tank and we'll never get anything extra. I mean, if they fucking release it the same time as Cyberpunk as the current window says they will, they've already shot themselves in the foot. Nevermind how rough that E3 showcase made it look.

I'm CAUTIOUSLY optimistic.

i'm hoping for a delay to Q4 or something. It needs polish that's for sure and i dont want the game to die again by competing against the hottest ting on the market just like vtmb 1 did.

Same. My hope is that they polish things like the animation the most. I'm prepared for it to have a bunch of fan patches and fixes, which would be fitting considering the previous game's legacy, but things like animations are much harder to crowdsource. Clipping problems, AI problems, texture problems, and bugs are easier to fix with time, but I don't think I've ever seen a game get improved animations from fan patches.

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Is there a list anywhere of everything that it adds?

>autumn
>brisk, comfortable weather (unless you live on the verge of the equator)
>beautiful scenery
>long nights
The best season, truly.

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very true and i hope the devs realise this. Problem is that vtmb 2 works with a higher polygon mesh count on their models compared to vtmb 1 so things become naturally harder to animate, especially emotive faces.

go to moddb

>but I don't think I've ever seen a game get improved animations from fan patches.
VtMB still hasn't gotten Gangrel's level 5 warform not landing every melee hit in a combo fixed. Most of the more serious bugs have been fixed but yeah, anyone thinking fan patches will fix all the issues we've seen so far is being a little unrealistic.

post some great unused tracks
youtube.com/watch?v=rEgkOfLGFVM

>tfw Toreador with Malk bf

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I don't see the changelog on the download page though, you probably get it in a text file after installation.

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is that twisted grim's?

fucking based!

Well I think the first game is faaaar beyond the usual standard of buggy when it comes to niche PC titles, so the fact it not only works now, but also has cut content restored and brand new mods, is impressive.

I think fan patches COULD elevate 2 beyond what we've seen, but again, I'm cautious. Plus I would much prefer a good, complete, working game came out in the first place.

Sounds like a poor GM.
Generally I allow players to describe their own possessions and resources.

This. Too many STs are too controlling.

We all agree Jeanette is best girl, right?

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pisha

I prefer VV.

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Let see what ToreChads did
>Arikel is the favorite and one of the oldest of Caine
>Her brother and sister Antediluvians SEETHE with jealousy because of her beauty and power
>Clan "curse" is boon to make her Kindred feel alive
>inspiration for the Path of Humanity
>Arikel is still up and running without causing too much havoc; might be in Greece
>Toreadors are the leaders of culture
>so hedonistic, they can topple empires like Rome and Carthage
>Ventures and Brujah still SEETHE at Toreadors because they believe Toreadors caused their pet empires to fall which they did lol
>founded the Camarilla
>Started the Renaissance
>started many trends really
>can manipulate kine with just words or just a bit of Presence
>sex appeal so strong even the most cold Tremere fall for them
>Malkavian lovers flock to them
>Gangrel and Nosferatu pine for them
>Venture prize them
>guardians of Elysiums
>throw the grandest parties where if you're not invited, you're basically a nobody
>hide behind the facade of being airheads while manipulating you and others
>leave oldfags in the dust by getting with the times
>best girls from the Clan of the Rose
>makes anti-shills SEETHE
When did you noticed Toreadors are the most powerful Clan, Yea Forums?
Also, they might have caused the Holocaust to get inspiration from the suffering of Jews.

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>recently finished my 3rd playthrough in a row
>decide to give it a break
>have nothing else to play

....god damn it, how many times am I going to play this thing?

I played both oWoD and nWoD until White Wolf went under, and desu Mage was easily the strongest. The only reason being that your abilities were at most levels only limited by your imagination. I can't tell you how many times we had sessions end because the players managed to do some stupid shit like manifesting a house-sized cinder block on a mansion with a bad guy inside, or just strike the BBEG with a bolt of lightning because they know his fucking name.

I'm not saying that they're absolutely the strongest, but as a game line it's one of my favorites because of how wild shit gets when your character becomes a master in a few spheres/arcana

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Sorry, I don't know.

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How do you play malkavian combatwise? I know they offer the most when it comes to social stuff but I feel like they are the dullest clan when it comes to combat

Level up Dementation to max and watch the havoc. Highlight is doing it in the Chinatown club and dancing while everyone kills each other.

Toreador chads unite!

That's just Clan stereotype. Your Vampire can be anything really. Maybe the most optimized build, you having fun is more important.

I'm thinking of doing either Tremere or Malkavian, cant decide if I want to blow up a room with bloodboil or make everyone go insane, I guess dementation is better since some some enemies attack the surviving enemies due to berserk?

Feels good, a thing most Kindred can't do, to be a Tore-Chad.

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CC out the ass while beating stragglers senseless with the bush hook

So which character(s) are people expecting to return?

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It would be cool to show more splats from other books of WOD but they weren't really meant to mix.

I'd catalogue her collection of 52 demons if you know what I mean.

I mean her ars goetia
She'd laugh

do malks have weird dialogue during speech/intimidation/seduction lines?

>VtMB still hasn't gotten Gangrel's level 5 warform not landing every melee hit in a combo fixed.

When the fuck is this going to be fixed? Because that's some serious bullshit.

>doing it in the Chinatown club

I never even thought to do that. That is fucking brilliant.

>tfw only one who likes Giovanni

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Are Malks too smart to be completely sane or too stupid to not be insane?

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Yes.

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I personally went with this:

>Melee build
>max out Dementation
>keep any good guns to use on bosses (also always make sure the flamethrower has max ammo since that thing turns all boss fights into easy mode)
>never wait to upgrade armor, always buy it as soon as it's available

A Firearm build is also viable, largely due to them having Auspex, but I personally didn't bother to put any points into it and found Melee to work just fine.

>they offer the most when it comes to social stuff

Isn't that more Ventrue's thing?

The reason they aren't more popular is because they didn't get included in the video game as player characters. Imagine if they had though. And imagine all the fucking porn of them! Incest + necromancy + vampires = LITERALLY INFINITE FETISH FUEL

I like them too. Too bad about their Kiss.

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I never bothered to do a side-by-side comparison or anything, but I THINK their dialogue is ALL rewritten?

wait, you can learn a 4th discipline? how the hell did I miss this?

You can get it from Beckett. Only got it as a Grangel, you get celerity which breaks the game even more.

I'd guess that Beckett's the most likely, since he's a neutral travelling scholar and can pop up wherever something interesting is happening.

Though I kind of expect/hope the Voermans to show up somewhere, considering what a fan favorite they are.

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I have never played this game but I like the Deb of night radio broadcast you posted

It's not in the vanilla game, you can only do it with mods.

>that clan novel where the giovanni chicks bite some dude's dick

god i wish that were me

Didn't they also break his jaw and it would feel like having acid injected into your dick?

I think it might be only in the Plus Patch, but I haven't played vanilla in years, so I don't remember for sure. Maybe someone else can confirm?

Anyway, if you're playing the Plus Patch (and maybe possibly in the base game, but again I don't remember) you can talk to Beckett after you complete the Giovanni quest. IIRC if you have maxed out ALL 3 Disciplines by that point then he'll offer to teach you a new Discipline.

This was (sort of) intended to be a feature in the game. The original game files contain an icon that says "New Discipline Learned". What capacity exactly they intended for this to be used in is anybody's guess, but wesp5 added something similar in as part of his "restoration patch" (read: the Plus Patch).

And again, if this actually IS in the base game then my mistake. But I'm 100% certain that it's at least in the Plus Patch.

>Too bad about their Kiss.

wat.

Most vampires cause people to feel pleasure when they "kiss" (bite), but the Giovanni cause excruciating pain.

Well that's odd.

To expand upon the previous poster the Giovanni find several ways to go around this.
Drugging victims into unconsciousness before feeding or making withdrawals from blood banks (here their business-side comes in handy) or just plainly murdering the humans during feeding.
That last part tends to draw un-welcome attention though. The curse as a whole does. For when other vampires feed, the victim can easily brush it off as part of a passionate night especially if their mind is already influenced with alcohol or drugs as many often are. But for the Giovanni the victim will be in too much pain for any illusions.

A few of the Giovanni actually welcome this. They see it as a constant reminder that they are monsters and no longer human. That it prevents them from becoming distracted by mortal illusions such as love and affection as some others often do.

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Hopefully as few as possible. I’d rather the game tell it’s own story instead of it being endlessly “Hey it’s that guy again!” and “I get that reference!”

How do you say based in Italian. They have the right idea too. After all, we humans don’t seduce cows, we kill, butcher and consume them. Vampires who go the seduction route are humanity cucks.

>After all, we humans don’t seduce cows, we kill, butcher and consume them.
Dairy cows. That's more like the feeding most vamps do.

If only Deb wasn't a smoker she would be a cutie

Anybody else think Gimble is one of the scariest quests in the game? I feel like it only exists to show you the humans can be really fucked up too.
>Exploring his creepy basement with the lingering thought in your mind that he could come back.
FUCK

I wish Chinatown had more quests. It has like 1/4th of the stuff in Downtown and Santa Monica. It really shows the game was rushed out in the side content near the end. It's a shame because Chinatown has a lot of good sidequests.

What's the song at 7:41?

youtube.com/watch?v=x4l-S4sQg2g

One I really want is Yukie. Bringing an older Yukie back for a series of sidequests where you hunt various WoD monsters with her would be kino. Plus, she was just one side quest in 1, so it wouldn't be too much of a MEMBER THIS CHARACTER moment.

THIS

It is only some of them. Others do use seduction. Just as some Giovanni are at-home on the trading floor buying businesses while others are at-home in a crypt enslaving ghosts. Ultimately as long as you stay with and help the family (and respect your elders), the Giovanni aren't dogmatic hardliners.
The Giovanni are quite fascinating to me. They have attitudes which fit in with both the Sabbat and the Camarilla. Both of whom are often their "business partners" without ever becoming too attached to either.
Even the Giovanni family members who aren't vamps are already shady. Putting their fingers alike into crime, exploitative business, morbidity and their cousin's cunt.
They have Scottish cannibals, Aztec mystics and Boston bankers all alike in their minor families.
They are perhaps the only vampire clan for whom "Clan" is actually 100% accurate. A group of close-knit and connected families. Exclusionary without, competitive within yet fiercely loyal to eachother.

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Vampire culture and population means major players will be alive for a long time. Even if you don't like it, it's storywise and universe wise relevant that many vampires will reappear in signs of Gehenna

I think that'd be a fun way to bring in a varied amount of monsters.

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Yeah, I don't need it to be a full roll call from the first game, but there are only so many long-term vamps running around getting involved in big events, so I wouldn't think it'd feel too forced to hear from a few of them.

I can appreciate that people want the sequel to be able to stand up on its own merits though, as opposed to having all the most interesting characters just be cameos from the first Bloodlines.

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No idea, there's a song list of everything that mod changes but I don't think it's from that. It might be something the video maker used. He still seems active so you could probably leave a comment on the video and ask.

All the preorder bonus stuff was basically nostalgia pandering

bumping for this

when talking to Beckett about the sarcophagus he’ll namedrop Anders Johansen, but it sounds like “Anders” was from a separate sound clip.

why is Wesp so autistic?

best reason to talk about it to be quite honest.

Beckett says his name in the vanilla game too but I don't remember it sounded off. He's chopped up old audio to try and use it in a new way a few other times though, but it always sounds bad.

It makes even more sense if you play it.

>mysoggyknees is bad

Fuck off back to r/games discord tranny.

You are an astonishingly gigantic retard if you take that seriously. It's literally using a pic of Steven Seagal and his name is Giuseppe Manletti.

"I was being an SJW ironically lol"

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I had quite the laugh, not bad at all, user.

"I'm too fucking stupid to see something obvious when it's talking about insecure manlets, black samurai, and using a picture of a celebrity that constantly gets made fun of lol"

He was describing Steven Seagal, user. How did you missed that?
There's more to life than SJW and /pol/.

I just installed the mod and I'm looking through the files so I'll let you know if I find it.

Yeah it's not in the game files so it must be something the video maker used. It sounds really familiar for some reason but I'm not sure what it is, so you'll probably have to ask him if you want to know.

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fake rudi

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Thanks for the effort, dude.

Yes and no. A Mage‘s abilties are basicaöly only limited by player imagination, but if thw ST actually pays attention to Paradox a Mage can be fucked over way more than other game line protagonists.

/wodg/ stopped being sustainable on that shitpile of a board about 5 years ago, though.

this could be titled regression.webm

>devs make shitty diversity quota character in VTMB2
>a tranny Malk because malks are fan favorites and etc
>but they realize too late what this could mean
just fucking imagine this happening

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Replaying the game again and it hits you that VTMB2 will be nowhere near as good as VTMB1

It's a most of clans thing. And unless you're playing as Nagaraja, Baali or something similar (which you obviously don't in Bloodlines) you can most likely pull out a social character anyway.

At least in the plus patch.

>My brain is like a fried egg and you are my drug of choice.

>>I missed you... did you miss me?
>Like sanity missed me. Lunch time!

He'd make a remarkable Tzimisce.

nice
lines with attached skill checks have the same texts for Malkavians as others

>lines with attached skill checks have the same texts for Malkavians as others
U wut m8?
>No! The baron needs a right hand for his left, not a simpering slave...
I don't remember how it was in original/older non-plus version, but literally all of Malk dialogue is different.

I doubt it's any different in the basic patch.

Possible but I also doubt wesp just wrote those lines himself. From what I remember all the lines were in the .DLG files but unused (most likely due to concern it will be too confusing to players coming with no tabletop background), same as some of the animations.

What I would give for a Hunter the vigil RPG with the amount of charm Bloodlines has

Daeva > Toreador and I'm not even a fan of Requiem.

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sorry, i forgot to add "in the vanilla game"

Of course, although not every single one is unique, but it seems like most still are. They probably assume most people would be using Dementation for that anyway, which has all unique lines. And this is from the vanilla game.

You have to assume that most of the people talking about the differences between plus and vanilla actually have no idea what they're talking about. Lots of people will assume stuff from the plus patch is in the vanilla game or attribute anything good from the game to the patch.

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It doesn't give the impression of them being closely related, what the fuck.

more like visual gay lol

>My friend is in need of the gifts I come bearing.
Nah.

How does he feed?

A LOT of people played basic on their first playthrough years ago, promptly installed plus so they'd never have to play through the sewers ever again, and never touched basic ever again. So people tend to forget what was or was not in basic.