Classic is officially dead

>Small server selection
>Layering
>Forced to play with Ecelebs and Ragnaros players
>Trade chat filled with jajajajajaja/INV TO ASMON LAYER
>World immersion will be ruined
>Millionaire streamers will dictate how the game is played

You're not going home.

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What did I miss?

Might as well play on a private server than give Blizzard money for this meme of an experience.

>Streamers

Lmao imagine being american and having to deal with this shit. European streamers are few and far between and nowhere near as popular or cancerous.

500 threads of the exact same shit like this

post yfw you didn't fall for the classic meme

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Just don't play on the server they play on?

Lots of fearmongering of streamers and their fans choking the life out of the servers.

That streamer looks fucking creepy

you mean everyone wont be sucking method's dick on one of the two servers they decide to camp on? yeah ok

>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE NOT GOING HOME MOMMY HE'S ENJOY OLD GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT THE FUCK THIS YEAR TRUMP WILL LOSEEEEEEEEEEE

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imagine playing on NA servers

But that's only on NA. Who cares about you mutts.

SHAZZCHADS RISE UP!!!

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just get some friends and start ganking them

...right, because Method surely won't have a giant following, right? Oh wait, you're just a shitposter most likely. Method is one of the biggest WoW Raiding Guilds ever, and they're from the EU. Actually, EU has way more popular, good guilds in WoW than the US.

Well the good thing is that even if Blizzard fucks Classic up so bad everyone stops playing, we still get all the correct data so in the future private servers will be 100% blizzlike.

TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
Imagine not dropping this game the moment cata was released.
Also how much of a drone do you have to be to ever trust Blizzard ever again.I am glad I played for a while on classic private server and then never touched the game ever again.

>w-we are going home
lmao

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Holy shit you need a life. You need people to talk to, this is just sad.

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Early pre-nerf Cata was kino.

How much of a memespec is enhance shaman?

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These threads are either falseflags by classicucks to actually generate ANY debate before it hits live or seething FFXIV fags that can't cope with the fact that their MMO is shit

Which one are you?

Method doesn't have any popular streamers since josh got permanently banned. Method has never influenced the game anyway so it doesn't even matter. They don't accept shitters

stop projecting, weeb

is that merula

>TSU
What did the Potter fags mean by this?

no, that's cristiano ronaldo

>TORtanic shitposting this hard about a 15 year old game
Pathetic

>>Small server selection
I thought this was a good thing, you'd complain if there were too many servers

>90% of the population play on streaming servers
>every other server is a wasteland of leftovers

back in my day we would just gank e-celebs, has anything changed?

Yeah. Those ecelebs now have thousands of slaves willing to drop everything that they're doing to suck eceleb dick

They have 40 bodyguards at all times now that streaming has gotten bigger. Even if you successfully gank them, it doesn't matter because the whole server has been warped around them anyways.

>projecting
Oh you poor man

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>kill a streamer on his server once
>Blacklisted by his cult of personality following|
>Silenced by mass reporting
>Kill him a second time
>Banned by mass reporting

imagine owning a pc so you can play all the games you want as much as you want, but you decide to watch someone else play.
even jeb bush has more energy.

It doesn't matter how many bodyguards they have literally all it takes is 1 good rogue to kill anyone.

Mark my words all streamer cucks will get griefed 24/7 and they will either

a) go back crying to retail to farm more mongs and mounts
b) re-roll like little bitch ass pussies on pve

There is literally no way a big streamer like asmon lasts more than a few weeks in pvp classic

FFXIV is dying, so now they are going into panic mode.

>forced to play with Ragnaros players
Oof, that's a major deal breaker

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LAYERING.... HOME

>>Millionaire streamers will dictate how the game is played
Reminder while you barely exist because you play 10 hours a day while still being forced to go to 8 hour regular job, they millionaires will call themselves hardcore players because they play the game as their "job"

Lel, you actually believe this? Delusional as fuck blizzdrone.

They said layering was only in for the first 2-3 weeks because of congestion and then it'll get turned off.

I really hope APE fags and streamers will go to Golemag

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>trusting in a company that ruined the game you wanted to play to make the game you want to play

Have you seen the number of servers? Layering is literally never getting turned off.

it's working for Jagex so surely Blizz can do it too

Yeah, let's take Blizzard at their word.

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Okay, ffxiv fucktard. Everyone is going to believe that those 100% avoidable scenario suddenly trigger random people on Yea Forums so that we have threads crying about classic 24/7. Sorry to say it, bub, but the king is coming back.

Daily reminder Classic is already fucked and our only hope now is for someone to steal all their data and make a new private server

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amerikeks...

>EU servers won't have any non english speakers
>EU won't have any streamers
>EU won't have layering
enjoy your meme i guess

Classic is ruined dude. I was excited about it but the language barrier and glorified twitch chat invading the trade channels will make the game suck hard

at least we've got memes other than twitch fags

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>Classic is ruined dude
No.
>I was excited about it but the language barrier
Name a game where this is an issue. Any fucking game. Even your beloved FFXIV doesn't have language specific servers.
>glorified twitch chat
Don't play on a streamer server then? Nobody is forcing you and you are blowing it out of proportion. Wow, looks like all your "issues" where really just nonissues.

i knew it was bullshit literally the first day it was announced

you sure showed me

>be spic
>only ONE sever for south america and its br
>if i play in USA servers the streamers are going to ruin everything in my path
>if i play in the br server monkeys will never let me in because i dont hes useless lenguaje
Fuck men im just want to play the game

>XIV living rent free in peoples heads
For fucks sake, this is a WoW thread. Talk about WoW.

>a million pvpers play from the start
lmao a million people dont even play normal WoW

Even if the number is 300k that's still nowhere near enough servers you fucking mong

Literally 90% of the playerbase would have to quit in order for layering to be removed

source on small server selection?

kill yourself wowfags

Retarded assmongoloid poster

so now people went from complaining Classic Wow was dead on launch to complaining that Classic WoW is going to be too big

WHAT?! SAPPY ON RAGNAROS?! WHO THE FUCK IS THAT?!

You must be a kike

>hey JUNKIE. Here is CLASSIC cocaine for you... just as you remember it! nothing like this new and improved cocaine which helped you get rid of your addiction... I mean you ARE going to relapse, aren't you?

>phasing during flying
>it drops you off the flying taxi

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daed gaem

One thing I don't understand about the whole server conversation is that people immediately assume they will have the same capacity as actual classic did. Technology has progressed leaps and bounds since then, do you really think they'll be that small? Have we had some kind of confirmation on the player limit?

3-4 rogues can kill someone instantly with a thousand people around him. 3-4 rogues with sapper charges can kill someone instantly with a thousand people around him, and those thousand people too.

lmao so? Let the fucking "king" come back. I'm not going back to that garbage ass grindfest and all the bullshit that comes with it. The market can handle more than one MMO.

Seriously who gives a fuck? Play what you want to play. Neither of them are going anywhere anytime soon. FFXI's garbage ass can attest to that.

Why don't jannies kill these fucking threads when they start?

XIV is doing great right now my dude.

Okay retard, you can stay assblasted as much as you want. Nobody wants you there anyways.

>Have we had some kind of confirmation on the player limit?
layering is the literal confirnation of player limit

Unironically why is a small server selection a bad thing? I would imagine being in a high pop server is good because there are more people to interact? Isn't this the reason why layering is a shit mechanic?
t. not an MMO player

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imagine playing on anything other than rp-pvp

why won't you play on private server like a normal person?

i tried to warn you

No, no it's not. It's confirmation of a restriction in place during launch. We have no idea what the current server capacity is.

How are streamers going to play this shit without getting Ninja'd every second

Jokes on you, I dropped before WotLK was released. No regrets, the game was already pretty fucked by BC, it was only getting worse anyway.

I’ll have fun, get fucked nerds. Layering is awesome and I can avoid all you faggot corpse campers and I’ll enjoy stream sniping all the streamers for shits and giggles. Could care less if BRs on the server too, they always stay in their containment guilds. You guys all sound like your trolling anyway so who gives a fuck what you think.

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That's what I'm asking. Small server selection means nothing considering we don't know the actual size of those servers too.

Classic is going to be bigger than Retail, theres no way they can remove layering

cope

It means layering isn't going away.

Classic's going to be shit because it's being made for a quick buck, not because people want to play it.

Classic WoW aka WoW 2019: Battle Royale

You should be getting your emails for a free week of Shadowbringers at this point. Time to come back.

Again how can you say that so definitively when the server list means absolutely nothing if we don't know the capacity of these servers?

Streamers FEAR the Richturpin blacklist

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You dumbass retards should have saw the signs when they started shutting down classic servers in World of Warcraft and saying "you think you want to play it but you don't" between Overwatch and WOW blizzard has some of the most loyal pay piggies in the world.

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Richturpin and Ooga gang will be the saviours of this whole debacle

>Literally 90% of the playerbase would have to quit in order for layering to be removed
>10% player retention
that might actually be a realistic estimation on blizzards part. They did good for once

ASMONGOLD OMEGALUL!!!! POGGERS!!!!!!

WAHHHHHH BLIZZARD DONT LAYER I LITERALLY WANT TO SIT IN A QUEUE FOR HOURS AND NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IN GAME WHEN I FINALLY GET ON

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Yeah, that's the vanilla experience.

Unless Blizzard pulled something out of their asses to magically make classic servers better than retail, then yes, we have an idea of what the capacity is. Sure, classic is less intensive so those servers will be able to handle more, but if there's any real player retention at all, those servers are 100% not going to be able to handle it without layering.

One of the worst specs in the game.
Some people may say you can use totems and nightfall, but Shaman is also the worst Nightfall user. You got no attacks, only autoattacks.

I'm looking forward to Classic but layering seems really unready from what I've seen/heard. I'm certainly concerned about cities in particular.

Blizzard never said layering would be limited to the first 2-3 weeks. That's something hopeful fans assumed. The only thing Blizzard said is that it'd be removed by phase 2.
And even that's looking suspicious with the number of servers.

Well I mean if random user in this thread is able to say that classic will crush retail in numbers then what makes you think blizzard isn't also aware of that? Would they not make preparations?
I understand doubts and frustration but when we have zero idea what will actually happen you're basically getting riled up for nothing. If it's shit then it's shit but if it comes out, things settle and layering is gone then you and many others effectively wasted hours screeching for nothing.
Also if they're installing new servers for Classic then there is a good chance they actually can handle more players (with the lesser power demand like mentioned by Classic) and there's no reason to worry. Stop wasting your time singing doomsday rhymes and selling your assets until we have proof the world is ending. I say this as someone with very, very little faith in nu-blizz

ah 10 minutes, just long enough to maximize ad revenue

>every other server is a wasteland of leftovers
No one stealing the mobs, no one standing in your way of grinding. It's great.

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you might as well just jerk off then if you're going to play by yourself

What reason would I have to assume Blizzard would put in the effort to improve classic servers when they already don't put in any effort to improving the retail servers?

based. it's quite underrated. ENjoyed the hc dungeons even as a casul

It boils down to three things
>streamers
>sharding
>intended server caps
If there are less servers to play on, then it means you will most likely have to play on a server with a big streamer on it, which is a godawful experience. Judging from the current server list, it will be impossible to avoid streamers. Additionally, one of the NA servers is going to be taken over by Brazilian monkeys, so it will be virtually be unplayable by non-huehues.
This time around, blizzard has implemented a thing called “sharding”, where basically if there are too many people in one area, that population will be split among multiple instances of that area. So for example, if you’re playing with your friend and your current shard reaches capacity, then your friend can vanish into another shard. This is really bad for server communities because it essentially makes every player impermanent, and prevents large-scale events from taking place. Blizzard has stated in the past that sharding in Classic only be a temporary solution to deal with the initial zergfest that will happen on release, and that it will be gone a few months after the game releases, but if server populations are reaching 15k+, they may just have to stick to sharding, which no one but Blizzard wants.
And the last problem with having huge servers is that the game simply isn’t designed around them. Economies will be fucked, and finite resources like ores and herbs will be camped. The original developers have stated in the past that the game having a 2-3k population cap was intentional, and the game was designed around this. Allowing servers to go above the intended cap basically destroys that foundational design.

Depends on your perspective. If classic really does fuck over retail in numbers as everyone says - why wouldn't they? It's the only smart business move. If there's even a possibility of it being a Jagex situation where classic actually becomes to main devline then again - why wouldn't they? Just makes them more money.
That being said they've also made nothing but wrong turns in the past few years even while attempting to butter up the community. So why would anyone think they could pull it off?
At the end of the day either one could be right. All I'm saying is that threads like these are incredibly pointless right now and serve as nothing but an angry echo chamber that could look absolutely retarded should the opinions be proven wrong. We have no idea. Even if one thing comes out - the server list - that looks like a bad sign we still can't take that and run with it. We don't know the capacity. Layering? We don't know if it will actually be turned off. Game population and retention? Nobody knows if classic will actually take off and survive in the current industry climate.

Why get riled up over it when we're going to see very soon what the result actually is?

Wow is great alone, other people just ruin it. I wish there was a solo version.

how is this a good thing? There are only a handful of servers while the expectations of players are prob >100k at least. You can always add merge servers afterwards

>LAWLZORZ I'M ON ASMON'S LAYER!! THIS IS AWSUM LAWL *ZOOMING* intensifies
Give them a week or two,they'll get bored and then everything will go back to normal.

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this
I don't think milion(s) players will continue to play classic, sure in the beginning but most people will be bored or think it's too hard and slow and go back to their weekly daily grind things and shuffle on with their lives instead of creating adventures because many people just don't want that

In addition to what's been said, Blizzard will ban people for doing that.

how low iq can you be

Yeah and Crash Team Racing wont have microtransactions either

>hes useless lenguaje
Paco....

im really torn on the issue. i want blizzard to fail because of what they turned wow into. but i dont want to give them money ever again. but if classic succeeds it will only show how much of a failure nublizzard really is.

Based Rich poster

the game is designed around a few k, like 2-3k per server. Having so few servers while knowing the prospects ARE WAY HIGHER. They can gauge the amount of players that are gonna play on classic based on this month's subscription, polls, and other indicators. There is no way in hell this few servers are gonna serve all expected players. They will rely hardcore on sharding or whatever technique to minimize server. This obviously diminished the gameplay experience. They cannot be so idiotic after the vanilla and wod launch fiasco. They know what they're doing and they're cutting corners hardcore.

how about we want adequate amount of servers without queues and sharding?

are there any big streamers going to play on EU servers?

>blacklisted by zoomer retards
thank god they won't reply to my LFM

See anons, this is the kind of people that killed MMOs forever.

Is this some kind of reverse shilling? For people supposedly hating this fag I sure am seeing constant threads about him.

You have to be 300% braindead retarded to believe nu-Blizzard, no matter how hard you crave for classic.

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That guy looks like a pedo. Those fanboys are pathetic.

Because these threads still discuss Vidya
You shouldn't demand threads be modded because you don't like them, then that's what everyone would do and Yea Forums would die and then you wouldn't be contained anymore.

Keep seething, blizzdrone

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I'm a RagnarosCHAD and nothing pisses me off more than amerimutt shitters having the audacity of talking shit when they are parsing lower than me in the same fight and fucking up every mechanic.

How is my gamingstyle stopping anyone else playing like they want?

I'll be playing on Bloodsail Buccbois [RP-PvE] so all of this is a non issue.
>no streamers
>stable realm pop
>comfy community

Can't wait.

>wow that 70 viever streamer will surely ruin my server
>ohh non english sp-
who the fuck cares, my guild is already set up, and no shitskins or women alowed
based german bros

PEPEHANDS

A jew bugman sowing chaos and distrust.

So nothing new.

>no shitskins or women alowed
>german bros
guild is 50% Turkish,at least.

Feels good to be playing on Zandalar Tribe since most idiots will avoid it just because it has RP before PvP.

Fuck Golemagg spics and Shazzrah slavs - Zandalar Tribe Chads RISE UP!

>infesting my kino server with your fake "rp"
die

Go play on a server that's completely dedicated to RP if that's what you want. It's not like anyone is going to crash your Goldshire Inn draenei horsecock unbirthing erp session anyways.

Zandalar Tribe will be comfy

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>Forced to play with Ecelebs and Ragnaros players
If you like PvP role on the RP-PvP server. Ya I know RP. But if they end up anything like EU Defias Brotherhood back in the day it will be fucking savage, and they will have no time for shitty ecelbs and thier shitty minnions. I remember Athene rolling on Defias duing TBC to start trouble wtih his followers, 'lets all laugh at the RPers' He lasted a day.

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Was probably going to roll on RP-PVE. Should be a streamer-free zone. Are the battlegrounds going to be cross realm? That's the only pvp I care for anyway.

the virgin pvper vs the chad rp-pvper

You asshats spammed "NEVER EVER" for years when we asked for classic.
You shit on us and told us we should take off our nostalgia goggles.
Now that we are getting classic and everybody is hype you spam us again with this shit.
Stop being a salty bitch and leave classic players be.

How does RP work in dungeons and raids? Does everyone have to speak in character when talking about strats and pulling?

This guy's antics should be a bannable offense. That's literally disrupting the server he's on. Literally a coordinated attack on one server. Dude also said he won't say what server he's going to roll on until release, so if you don't want to be in his shit hole, you HAVE to wait to play.

>Damn you Long Schlong Johnson, pull these beasts off me before I pull your spine out!

Generally people try to stay in character when talking in say/yell/whispers. Trade /general channels are less so. People take it as serious as they want to. Plus there are RP addons to give your character a description and personality. You can set yourself as in or out of character I think. Not sure about raids. Probably not too RP strict unless you join a guild that takes it super serious maybe.

INV TO ASMON LAYER

No not really. Most RPers have a spot where they RP. While some did, very few because RP while raiding does not really work. Some will type in an RP manor but you just go with it. The roles tend to be, you don't have to RP, just don't be a dick to those that are. On Defias RP was mostly PvP focused. Like we would set up patrols in Ashenvale to clear it of any dirty horde. While the patrols were up no Horde could quest without backup.

I need to find a website full of dwarven insults and banters.

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Remember to bring lots of booze for the dungeon run. A drunkard dwarf hiccuping and slurring insults sounds great.

Anyone who actually played classic for an extended period of time didn't want this.

Bring back josh, the only steamer on twitch worth watching

Layering makes the game look more buggy than your average private server.

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Ah..Eastern Europe... Suka blyads... home
Unironically going to be great with no bullshit from streamers and whiny western european fags who don't know the basic stuff.