Why dont you play fighting games?
Why dont you play fighting games?
Joshua Gonzalez
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Leo Martinez
Noah Thomas
I have no one to play with and playing just with the computer is boring, also the games don't have a goal, just to be as good as you can, I like games to have a goal so when I stop playing I feel like I finished them, not just dropped them
Aaron Perez
But I do
Bentley Perez
You guys realize juri is a nymphomaniac right
Brayden Powell
because im not a nigger
Juan Bennett
i do and i fuckin suck
Hunter Rodriguez
I don't handle them well. Too stressful for my taste.
Xavier Sanchez
Post the instant loss.
Mason Cooper
Yes and?
Blake Howard
But I do. I enjoy the intensity of 1 on 1 combat.
Lucas Perry
I do, but I only play superior Arcsys games
Nicholas Russell
I do. Well I'm hiatus because I've injured my arms, but prior to that I did
Ian Jackson
The followup should've been her getting happily married
Joshua Morales
Lucas Diaz
Too busy lining my brain with cum I guess
Brody Sanchez
Anthony Rodriguez
I'm not asian or black so I have no chance at winning in them anyway
Zachary Rivera
Well that's a twist.
Jose Phillips
they require too much effort and aren't satisfying to me
i love juri tho
Nathaniel Murphy
My old man reflexes makes it impossible to have good execution
Joseph Young
Reflexes are such a meme
Aaron Gutierrez
I play scarlet weather rhapsody because I have a vast intellect.
Cameron Peterson
Boring. I don't play any online competitive games. I only play single player story focused games.
Julian Cruz
I'll need to see it to believe for myself
Josiah Morgan
Not an excuse, Alex Valle still plays and beats up youngsters.
William Jenkins
Cameron Sullivan
Kevin Harris
Valle kept playing since he was young, so his reflexes are better than the average guy at the same age, a casual player won't have the same level of preservation
Easton Sullivan
I'm bad at them and don't enjoy them enough to spend my time learning how to get good at them.
Luis Brooks
Currently playing MK11 and Tekken.
May try SC6 soon.
Jayden Ortiz
He also has like 30 years of experience behind him. I only play a few weeks out of the year and get whomped online and can't even do "basic" combos in SF. I just poke and do specials, that's the extent of my skill.
Robert Collins
yes, but a casual player won't be fighting infiltration or bonchan or oil king or whatever. I'm sure this guy has still been playing video games, and as long as it wasn't walking simulators or something, i'm sure his reflexes are fine.
Henry Perez
1. Fighting games are dead on PC besides SFV which put a rootkit on and Tekken which I'm not a fan of
2. None of my friends/coworkers play even on console
I pretty much just want what Tekken has but for Street Fighter
>Decent roster
>Good soundtrack
>Good artstyle
>In-depth training mode
>Well-populated unranked matchmaking mode that just lets me play against other people
>Things I know that I'll clap for when I see them
I may just be nostalgic for games I played in high school but I LOVED MVC3/SFIV and I just wish that Capcom could put out another fully-featured game like that instead of piecemeal bullshit.
Grayson Robinson
He's uses his superior experience to make sure he never finds himself in situations where he needs to use his reflexes to win.
Samuel Butler
Bentley Carter
I don't have access to tournaments or training partners
My internet is also trash so being a wifi warrior isn't an option
I still practice from time to time so when the rare occasion comes up where I find actual people to play with, I can still be on a decent level with them
Also there are barely any good fighting games to play right now outside of Tekken and UNIST
Sure SamSho seems nice but I wouldn't ever be able to get anyone to play that shit with me
Christopher Allen
All of my friends are shit at fighting games. I have no locals anywhere nearby. Online is shit most of the time.
Alexander Kelly
I live in a third world country so every match would be a lagfest with players thousands of kms away.
I have literally given up on ever enjoying fighting games
Christopher Evans
That too. The main games I have played in the last year were American Truck Sim and Cities Skylines. I don't have the experience nor the reflexes for fighting games, though I do enjoy the characters and like dabbling in them here and there.
Andrew Long
Because i'm not a fan of memorizing ridiculous combo lists that require me to twist my arcade stick six or more times and slam in buttons simultaneously. I prefer beat-em-ups when it comes to arcade games.
Adrian Murphy
>good art style
We had that in 3 and 4, just not anymore. Q or 12 would have looked gorgeous in 4's aesthetic too.
Austin Johnson
If I'm gonna play multiplayer ita usually something at least 4 player with my bros. Otherwise I just stick to single player
Hudson Williams
>Juri being the dom in an Instant Loss
perfection
Christopher Garcia
I do, though. In fact I love them. The problem is that I'm not spending money on PS4 or Switch online and my PC can't run the modern active games (of course it can run Fightcade but I'm not always in the mood for those).
I just downloaded Akatsuki Blitzkampf yesterday though. I had watched some gameplay before but I'm now really impressed with the systems, the sprite work, and the music. Kanae is a lot of fun (not surprising since I play grapplers 90% of the time), love her oki and 6C loops.
Jace Turner
At this point, I only play fighting games. I don't have patience for anything else.
Brandon Howard
I almost wish I was like that so I could focus on them but I have a good-sized single player backlog. I have that EVO fever right now though. I even downloaded that Footsies game just to try it.
Jason Watson
Too hard, friends won't bother with them.
Wyatt Barnes
Unless you live in central africa or a remote island in Oceania, there are probably SFV players around you.
Blake Howard
I do. I've bought at least ten different fighting games this gen. I have slow internet though so I usually play offline.
Carter Anderson
This.
>tell friends about free SFV week so we can all play together
>5 days pass
>check in to see what's up
"yeah I couldn't get it working, sorry, it looks dumb anyway"
Julian Martinez
>Decent roster
>Good soundtrack
>In-Depth Training mode
I'm not a big fan of SFV but if you pick up AE you get these. SFV has a really robust suite of Training options and getting the first couple seasons-worth of characters makes the roster pretty solid (although parts of S3 like Cody, G, & Sagat really help fill it out). Music is definitely better than SFIV's as well; only example of IV being better is Poison's theme.
SFIV had a good aesthetic going with the ink but man the models did not age well. The best-looking ones were the Ultra IV newcomers that came from SFxT, and also Oni (I really like some of the effects on his attacks). SFV isn't the prettiest game in the genre (not at all compared to anything Bamco or ArcSys are putting out really, barring BBTag's technicolor nightmare) but it's a step up.
Jordan Morris
>Why dont you play fighting games?
It's pretty hard to play when the left hand is on the keyboard and the right hand is on the "stick".
Lucas Miller
>fighting games are dead on pc
>what is guilty gear, unist, fightcade, blazblue
Retard, kill yourself.
Joseph Brooks
What are the good training options? Genuinely curious. The frame data bar goes in real time in 1/60s of a second which is too fast to even read, let alone be useful. I can't believe they made it this way. I still have to go online to look up the stats.
Easton Wilson
LOOOOOOOOL
Lincoln Allen
I'm 18 and my reflexes have always been garbage. I can actually see the stuff coming a second away sometimes but I just stand and drool there like a tard
Jordan Adams
Jordan Sullivan
I haven't played the game in a while but I recall being able to do a lot of things with recordings and wakeup options as well as some frame data, and I hear that it's gotten more features over time.
I think FighterZ has gotten the most post-launch Training improvements though. The frame data and reversal options are actually really good these days. I wish it had hitboxes though; I want to see exactly how stupid some of Bardock's moves are.
Luis Miller
You're one of those left handed fightstick users
I understand
John Robinson
LOOOOOOOOL
Kill yourself retard.
Austin Clark
fighting games are no longer worth getting into, that's why.
Yea Forums discussion on fighting games nowadays is just:
>HITOMI IS MY WIFE
>I WANT TO LICK RAMLETHAL'S ARMPITS
Fighting games also used to ship with all of their content on the fucking disc. Now it's just:
>6 US DOLLARS FOR TIRA
>6 PAID DLC LEGACY CHARACTERS FOR TEKKEN, DESPITE HARADA SAYING OTHERWISE
>PLEASE ENJOY OUR PREMIUM PRICED MOBILE GAME MK 11, NOW PAYS US MORE MONEY FOR SOUL STONES
Fighting games used to have robust content to enjoy, both offline and on, now it's just:
>Play online against glorified ultra difficult AI, shh, we don't speak of customization anymore, just enjoy product, consume and then move onto other fighting game
Fighting games used to retain a community longer than a month, now it's just an over saturated market:
>gee, which new fighting game flavor of the month can I pick now and enjoy for a week and then drop, because my zoomer pee pee is drawn to another waifu sim--er, I mean fighting game coming out next month!
Fighting games used to be about the community, but now it's about:
>GUYS DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THAT PAKISTANI WHO WON EVO? SO COOL, *celebrity gossip intensifies*
Fighting games no longer reward the player equal in proportion to the time put in to git gud at them.
Jaxon Moore
>BBTag's technicolor nightmare
Shit taste
James Bennett
Been busy with FFXIV lately, about to get back into SamSho now that Rimururu is out.
Isaiah Hall
I do, I have over 300 hours in SCVI, but it’s hard because if I take a break to play other games for a while it feels like I have to do all this catching up and relearn things like I’m studying for a class or something
Video games shouldn’t feel like studying, I already spent 28 years of life to get a doctorate, I don’t need a minor in frame data for every character
Aaron Smith
Jonathan Davis
>230 players
>this is supposed to be a lot
are you retarded? that's dead as fuck. you wouldn't even be able to find anyone to play with unless you like playing with japs on the other side of the world.
Landon Stewart
because getting good is not fun unless you have at least one friend who is at your skill level and equally as dedicated to the game.
Brody Nelson
You're retarded, I open up a lobby and in 5 minutes it's full. Kill yourself retard. If you're desperate you can also go play with a d*scord.
Justin Diaz
Nobody to play with, i play smash with my friends soetimes bt they arent very good and quit pretty quick when i start playing seriously
Oliver Cruz
Shit's insane. I watch these Tekken commentators and they'll say "that move is +4" or whatever and it's like how can you even remember that, each character has like 120 moves and there's 50 characters, and you remember the frame data for every thing to be able to pull it out at a second's notice? That is some Rainman shit right there.
Camden Powell
full of japs and brs with 10f of delay. if you think that's playable i don't know what to tell you.
Bentley Jackson
>fighting games look like the hypest shit ever
>fgc is just my type of autism
>so many aesthetic fighting games (MvC, Skullgirls, GG)
>many many games and fighters to choose from
>have the reflexes of a geriatric retard
>any talk of learning frame data bores me to death
>becoming pro sounds like a nightmare of a task
I can't see how learning about all this frame data bullshit can still render the game fun so ill just remain a casual for now
Connor Gutierrez
I'm EU and I find players every time I open a lobby with good connection, the same thing is happening in Guilty Gear too.
Thomas Martin
sure you do. boot up blazblue and take a picture of the lobby list i fucking dare you.
Matthew Anderson
Nolan Roberts
Odds are you'll never be a pro, but the fun comes in just getting to the highest level you can get to and always overcoming that next plateau. Don't try to think of it as an all or nothing deal when it comes to improvement.
Ryder Nguyen
GAMER
Hunter Hill
this board is hetero exclusive brother
gonna have to ask you to leave
Parker Morales
how do we fix it
Jaxson Thomas
>have the reflexes of a geriatric retard
Don't bother then. If you cannot react to most mixups you will never be anything bit shit.
Cooper Young
This. Follow Roo's advice and just have fun.
Chase Cook
Cause I don't know how to learn the game and online keeps blowing me up.
Joseph Howard
We don't. Corporations are too greedy for real fighters to stand a chance.
Ryan Cook
Nice feet
Ayden Carter
Used to in college, played a shitton of umvc3 cause people can just hop over to the room, plug in, get drunk and start playing. I just can't recapture that magic and playing over network is just lame.
Connor Gutierrez
Too hard to understand especially if it's the movement minus SC6 and Smash which is a lot more free than more traditional fighting games. Only one I kinda understand is UNIST. I would like to learn SFV though
David Jackson
>Love fighting games
>Rural area
>Terrible internet
>Nobody I know plays them
Zachary Moore
I don't need to play them to masturbate to their girls.
Samuel Cox
Frame data is kind of a meme. Not entirely, but the piece of actually knowing the specific numbers is a meme. You simply need to know ‘this move is pretty slow, this move is pretty fast’
The frame data is there and it’s accurate but the actual numbers are unimportant and are mainly something middling brain-style tournament players swear by. You get much more mileage out of instead focusing on in game experience and codifying it as ‘when Bob does that move and I block, my low kick is guaranteed’
Daniel Edwards
Same situation for me, but I still try my best to enjoy them.
Blake Rodriguez
This. Frame data boils down to "Can I punish that on block, and if so, with what?" At most you compare two numbers from two different moves once and then make a connection, and the latter is what you memorize.
Jordan Evans
>tfw lab monster and can enjoy fighting games solo if necessary
I've put 1100+ hours into Marvel 3 Training Mode alone. I've got close to 300 in DBFZ's as well. Spent my whole evening on the 8th cracking open Janemba in the lab.
Brayden Carter
I do but only for like a few months
it's really impressive to me how a lot of people can play the same shit for more than a decade and still continue to be play it
Juan Gonzalez
I want to get inty Guilty Gear but don't even know where to start. Should I just get the latest iteration or start from some previous game? It's all so daunting seeing that long list of games.
Noah Phillips
I suck and im too lazy to improve
Daniel White
There's a new one being developed now so maybe wait for that and get in on ground zero.
Bentley Kelly
It’s all about fundamentals.
Landon Myers
The thing about Guilty Gear (and a lot of fighting game series) is that before DLC and even after for a little while there were a LOT of iterations on the same game released as new games. OG players of the series will have preferences for certain versions in the middle because of how a system worked or how their character was strong in that version, but generally you only need to care about a handful. The main ones to play for Guilty Gear are GGXX Accent Core +R and GGXrd Revelator 2, the most recent versions of XX & Xrd.
I'd recommend trying them out so you get a feel for what Guilty Gear "is" but you don't need to get too deep into learning them because a new game that promises to be a little easier to get into is coming in the next 18 months. Xrd in particular has a really great tutorial that will give you the basics.
Bentley Taylor
nICE kolin
Ryder Reed
It’s fun when you git gud
Isaac Thomas
>People saying that they have bad reactions/execution as a reason to not play
Just play SamSho my man. You make 3-5 correct reads and you win; if you can cancel a normal into a special or super then you can do 90% of the combos.
Easton Adams
That's what also makes it so confusing. If you go my single player story to differentiate the games those are the ones to go by?
Levi Cook
i play samsho but i suck. shitty old man reflexes and remembering frame data and punishes can be a chore. still, fighting games are the most aesthetic genre next to shmups so i always come back after a break from a long losing streak.
Cooper Thomas
I live in Seattle and I’m a WiFi Warrior. Where do I even start?
Benjamin Perez
I know that's why I play them for months before stopping compared to the usual few weeks on every other video game
for a decade though? yikes
Cooper Rivera
Terrible netcode and matchmaking coupled with garbage offline community. I'd rather just fap to the characters.
David Richardson
Guilty Gear in particular has a fucked up and confusing story, so much so that stuff introduced in Revelator & Rev 2's supplementary material is required to fully understand the climax of the very first game. You can really just get by with reading a synopsis of 1/X/XX/2 (2 isn't a fighting game at all but is VERY important to Xrd's story) and watching the Xrd story modes (it's not even a playable story, they basically do in-engine OVAs).
Also only like a third of the playable cast is important to the main plotline.
Jacob Hall
I want to get good at tekken but it's so boring in a beginner level. I go to training, practice kbd for 15 mins, get bored and log off for the day. I want to learn kbd and my character's bnbs and options before going online otherwise I would just he wasting my time mashing. Fuck kbd. It's a useless input barrier that shouldn't even be in the game
Jace Butler
>ywn get to sniff Juri's rubber suit after a long day of beating the shit out of people
Nathan Torres
>feel bad when I lose
>feel bad when I win
I'm starting to feel like it's time to let go.
Matthew Parker
Start by getting off of Wifi. Save that, look for local groups in your area, I'm sure there has to be something.
Robert Bennett
It just looks like you're using the same 5 moves though
Jaxson Bennett
nobody even KBDs until high level
t. red rank
Jose Garcia
>feel bad when I win
why
Hunter Torres
Stop playing SFV
Lucas Perez
because my brain shuts down under pressure most of the time I keep buying them though
Alexander Rivera
he probably feels like he didn't win by skill but by being lucky and guessing a lot, or something like that.
Aiden Richardson
Hudson Gutierrez
what a retard, just backdash and sidestep if you can't kbd
also on what controller do you play
Jayden Lopez
I went to locals
now I need to figure out basic social skills
Nathan Ramirez
you sound like a 11yr girl
Alexander Allen
Better spider on the right
Asher White
Never really played them growing up, I feel like the only community that still plays is autistic try hard that don't stop playing
Bentley Cooper
Harder than multiple 1-link frames for sure.
Jackson Bailey
I don't want to spend 200 dollars for a decent fightstick
>you don't need a fightstick
fuck off yes I do, I literally can't do half circles with the shitty dualshock 4 pad
Elijah Davis
It's easier when you're at those places, because everyone is there for the same reason. You all have something relate-able to talk about that you're interested in.
Just play some matches and talk after, or during casual games. Most players like giving advice about their character.
Andrew Cooper
LIIIIIINK
Jaxon Ross
Evo winners have won using pads, user. Some of the best in the FGC are on pad, too. There's no excuse for yourself.
Logan Nelson
play on keyboard then retard
Brody Long
>, I literally can't do half circles
You just might be shit
Henry Allen
Its mizarusketch you can see the signature in the first pic
Ethan Scott
Sebastian Ortiz
Some of the best players use pad actually, it's all comfort and preference.
You can do it if you practice. KBD on ds4 pad hurts my thumb though.
Matthew Hall
>I literally can't do half circles with the shitty dualshock 4 pad
How? Literally just roll your finger from one direction to the opposite over down.
Justin Lee
it all boils down to practice, some of the best players in the world right now use pads, and pads are becoming more and more common as the arcade generation fades away.
Wyatt Taylor
>Karin 2.0
How do we stop her form destroying the balance of the game?
Austin Reed
Playing samsho, practising GG and KoF98
Has RL been thrown out of any other community lately? If even LoL and the FGC won't take you then you must truly be the biggest of cunts.
Adam Cruz
kys
Jackson Bennett
That's literally all I play
I'm an overcompetitive asshole and unironic edgelord
Benjamin Foster
POST THE SOURCE RIGHT FUCKING NOW
Owen Johnson
Mika a cute
Adam Flores
>WiFi
Why do you insist on making an enemy of everyone you encounter online?
Nolan Cook
madman
Brody Edwards
Is this THE Richard Lewis from Curb Your Enthusiasm, the same Richard Lewis who coined the phrase "the ___ from Hell"?
Bentley Howard
no dumdum
Jonathan Nguyen
Sometimes I feel bad when I win because I think the other guy didn't have fun or I was too hard on him.
Jaxson Gutierrez
wasnt that hard to find
rule34.xxx
Zachary Johnson
Me on the right underneath
Dominic Perez
nah, it is the one who got banned from leddit for constantly posting his own articles
Joseph Harris
People CAN win on pad, but honestly stick is better, and I saw this as someone who never touched an arcade stick in my life until Tekken 7 came out. QCFs are so much easier, let alone half circles. Hori RAP4 Kai is around $130, maybe less on sale. It works on PC and PS4 so you get two sticks in one almost.
Anthony Anderson
Who cares that they had fun or not? You're playing to beat them. If they didn't have fun because they lost then they're not enjoying the game. If you don't have fun playing a fighting game winning or losing you shouldn't play it to begin with.
Zachary Butler
>Karin 2.0
How do we stop her form destroying the balance of the game?
Dylan White
Stop playing, then the meta never develops
Chase Kelly
-My IRL friends don't play. My friends that did play quit or have fallen out of practice. Most of my other friends have zero interest in the genre.
-Playing online is garbage due to lag/latency
-Capcom fighting games suck this generation
>Mahvel isn't a thing this generation
I used to play fighting games as an serious-business-online-ladder-grinder, but now I just play casually so I can look at pretty waifus.
Landon Sanders
WAT'S WRONG? YA NEED A CUP O' CAWFEE?
Ryan Parker
I play on dualshock 4 and use d pad. Also you need kbd to be good at the game that's like saying don't special cancel is street fighter. Not trying to say all people who can kbd are good but all good people kbd regularly
Isaiah Moore
But life is about winning or losing.
Isaac Sanchez
Honestly the PS4 Dpad fucking sucks for quarter circles. I prefer the Xbox One Controller's Dpad for fighters but Microshit got rid of the wire and are forcing bluetooth connection
Austin Price
I dunno, her fireballs are annoying as shit. also it seems like every single one of her buttons and specials is safe or plus as fuck, and i'm sitting over here with a -6 fierce, and a -7 forward roundhouse
Jaxson Sullivan
About to blow my FM wad on her, Poison, and Honda.
I just am hesitant that at the end of the year there'll be a bundle with them, Kage, and some more newbies for a better price.
Isaiah Brooks
I used to play them all the time but SFV kinda killed the vibe for me, and it really hasn't been same since although I still play them, just not as much. I do want to start getting back into them way more now. On another note does anyone here play Tekken and have experience on stick and pad? I haven't played much of the game and want to get to learning it but I've always heard small talk of people say some things such as movement is easier on pad. I don't mind learning either but I'd like a little insight on this.
You really don't. When I first started I was on pad but then I switched to Stick and initially regretted my purchase because it felt so different but after a while I was much more comfortable on stick and it became my go to controller. It really comes down to personal preference and how much time you want to invest. No peripheral is going to make you better for your lack of time investment.
Alexander Garcia
>all good people kbd
i think saint doesn't kbd at all
Matthew Morris
>but honestly stick is better
its literally just preference
I play on stick because its more comfortable for me but there are plenty of top players that play pad because they like it more
Punk, ProblemX, Sonicfox etc. win huge events on pad they're arent trying to intentionally gimp themselves as a powerplay
Hunter Wilson
Discuss.
Evan Reed
And the way to win is to defeat yourself.
Connor Sanchez
Doesn't look too difficult unless the time window is a bitch between motions
Andrew Cooper
Because you need the reaction time of a 12 year old or you have to sniff adderall and on top of that they aren't very interesting to me to begin with
Dominic Baker
>Vindicator rank in Tekken
>Can still do this easy in a match
Explain this executionlet
Liam Turner
you're supposed to cancel st.hp into hands no matter. On block cancel into light hands so youre +2, on hit cancel into h or ex hands so theyre fucked up. Even if you cant reliably hit confirm off it every form of hands is unpunishable
FM is free so you might as well get them now and build some FM off of leveling new characters unless you really love costumes and shit
Zachary Sanchez
No i know about the cancel, and spacing it so that you always can cancel, but it does make it very predictable and they can react with v-reversal.
Austin Reyes
>Muh reactions
Literally no pro player plays fgs purely on reactions
Bentley Jackson
Which game is that for? Depending on the input leniency, you could just wiggle the stick back, forward, back, forward on the diagonals.
Julian Jones
Okay kid. The reality is different
Justin Miller
SNK input read isn't that lazy, even tekken isn't that crap.
Mason Scott
i wish that was me.
Jeremiah Perez
in that situation you forced a brick of v meter for free or you can take vt2 and cancel into the running bear to punish the vreversal for free and get a set up
Matthew Murphy
Keep making excuses for not getting gud.
Jayden Bennett
>not playing solely through reactions
Aiden Thompson
This is why Smash is the most popular fighting game.
And fuck off if you don’t think it’s a fighting game. At minimum, it’s a platform fighter.
Grayson Scott
because it requires an autistic amount of memorization. I'd rather fill my head with actually useful information
Leo Fisher
WTF is that nigger doing
Aaron Long
Too much adderall?
Tyler Bennett
Just the right amount to play fighting games competitively
Christian Powell
It's a joke
Caleb Hall
Because they're mostly too fast and too complicated for my tiny brain to get better at, and I hate losing so much that I get genuinely angry and sad if I lose too much.
SCVI is the only one I've managed to have fun with and that's because I can make custom characters and play the RPG mode. Or fight against my sister who is worse than me, and that makes me feel better, but then she doesn't want to play any more.
And I recently got into FFXIV which has the custom character dressup, and also has the shallowest difficulty curve in the world. It makes me feel good so I play that instead.
James Russell
Imagine thinking a half circle motion is too complicated
Xavier Price
I play fighters, but with no local scene it just doesn't feel as fun as it could be. Nothing betas playing locally.
Leo Collins
Levi Miller
>smashfags desperately try to define a subgenre so they can fit in
lmao
Levi Martin
>I hate losing so much that I get genuinely angry and sad if I lose too much.
Why though? Losing is how you learn and get better. It's like that Twilight Zone episode where the gambler dies and goes to heaven and every slot machine hits the jackpot every time and he realizes he's really in Hell. You need the losses to make the wins feel good.
Elijah Phillips
This is the modern game
Jonathan Bennett
I can't be bothered to spend hours and hours and hours in training mode. Thought about buying a Hitbox because i'm a brainlet and trying to play them
Jaxson Reyes
isnt that just a circle?
David Reyes
Gamer*
Daniel King
Yea i haven't messed around with vt2 yet, just been enjoying the 300+ damage combos with vt1 guaranteed.
Kayden Lopez
>I get genuinely angry and sad if I lose too much
I wish I could stop it
>it's video games why am I getting mad/sad
>just gets worse
Brody Evans
Because i have money to play them
Zachary Hernandez
Anybody got Piccolo's Super DBZ movelist where his Level 3 is literally a star?
Isaac Morgan
Blond fighter V
Brody Perez
vt2 is probably a little worse but its got some pretty good stuff, you can also get it twice in 1 round depending on how your opponent plays
Hunter Parker
I don't really learn most of the time though. I'd say like a small fraction of the time when I fail at something I actually learn from it, most of the time I just feel bad and don't learn anything. Like I can learn/remember some stuff easily, but anything else it just glides off like my brain is teflon.
I also have a problem where if I start losing I get the urge to keep losing because that's all I can do. Like I'm proving a point to some invisible observer that I'm trash and not worth anything.
When I originally got SCIV and started playing online I'd record my wins and losses and post on here about how I'd get wrecked 30 or 40 games without a single win. When I did eventually win a match it was kind of a let down.
Jayden Butler
Now you're motivated!
Justin Cox
teach me your ways
Kevin Perez
First thought: Gay
Cameron Peterson
I'm back to play Tekken after 20 years, and I still got a boner everytime I hit someone with phoenix punch
Isaiah Collins
>I don't really learn most of the time though. I'd say like a small fraction of the time when I fail at something I actually learn from it, most of the time I just feel bad and don't learn anything. Like I can learn/remember some stuff easily, but anything else it just glides off like my brain is teflon.
That's normal. It takes tons of repetition for something to click and be learned. Don't expect progress after just a couple defeats. Some people in these threads say they go 70 matches before their first win, but it'll come eventually. Just ignore your win/loss. Nobody cares but you, so just train yourself not to care either because it really doesn't matter.
Charles Morgan
I'm so tempted to pay the $10 for the s1-3 nostalgia costume pack. Please talk me out of this, but I want nostalgia Ibuki and it's $4 just for her's alone. At least with the pack I get 15 outfits total.
Ayden Brooks
If you ever get ED, you have your cure
Ethan Flores
Surprisingly insightful for a porn commenter
Nolan Long
>Ibuki player
might as well throw your money away its not like youll ever do anything worthwhile with it
Brandon Robinson
STOP SUPPORTING SCUMMY DLC PRACTICES, YOU SPINELESS ZOOMERS KEEP WONDERING WHY THIS SHIT KEEPS HAPPENING, IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE ENCOURAGING THESE DEVELOPERS TO DO MORE OF IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CONTROL THINKING WITH YOUR COCK
Thomas Scott
I don't know how to not care though. Literally cannot control it. Some days I am good and I can play and lose without being stressed out, but those days are incredibly rare and I don't know what makes my mind different on those days. Most days losing makes me feel bad. The whole point of fighting games is that you're supposed to win and if you lose it's all your own fault. How are you supposed to feel good about that? Unless you're deliberately trying to lose, which is the only way I can deal with playing on some days.
Luke Morgan
I really tried. But I just don't have the memory/reaction time/execution required for punishing/combos etc.
Juan Martin
I actually only played fightan and no other games but my friend with whom I used to play is going away to a different city for university ;_;
Luke Ward
I literally bought the season pass last night and I haven't played the game in months. I have the disc in the machine but I don't know if I will start it up again before I take it out for another game.
Carson Scott
>tfw no locals
Asher Johnson
>be a shitter against my far more experienced friends
>lose a bunch
>we all laugh, make jokes, have a great time
>play alone
>anxiety on going online with any fighting game knowing I'm a shitter
>They're probably laughing at me
>I'll end up in some video or stream getting trounced
>no bantz, only mean spirited trash talk
Playing with my friends every two weeks or so has to add up eventually right?
Hunter Davis
OP said fighting game not children's button masher
Henry Scott
BUILT FOR KARA BOGA
Robert Adams
>The whole point of fighting games is that you're supposed to win
The point is to have fun bro. You can have an awesome fight and still lose if it's a close battle and you fought well. Or you can beat up scrubs all day erry day and win but find no satisfaction in it.
Jeremiah Baker
If it's season 3 I bought that pass this week too. Totally worth it. I thought I would hate all the characters besides Cody, but G is fun, Sakura has her moments, and surprisingly I really like Blanka. Never liked him in the past but just flailing around like a wild animal is really fun.
William Miller
>gets ass kicked in tekken 7
>cursed to shitpost about it for all time
Kys bloody roar fag
Jace Johnson
All I want is for Juri to verbally abuse me
Is that too much to ask for?
Jose Flores
>That one mentally ill tekkuck crying about Bloody Roar
Every time
Aiden Foster
I'll take the physical abuse then
James Butler
I play fighters but this is true. Netplay is a travesty most of the time.
Juan Ross
I just played Skullgirls last night you dummy. I like Squigly and Filia.
Robert Anderson
I'm actually looking forward to getting back into Tekken with Zafina.
Elijah Evans
Youre like this guy I know who calls every single fighting game a button masher, claims to play them, and is literal shit at all of them. You are so inept you couldnt handle a true button masher like Storm. You will always be bottom tier no matter what you do in life
Luke Harris
Reminder tekken is a button masher and all of the things tekkucks claim is hard can literally be done just by mashing.
Christian Carter
Post rank and timestamp otherwise we know you are just salted
Blake Jones
i love my big butt wife!
Luis Flores
>Not maining the 'Cock
Still glad you actually play, though.
Mason Rivera
>screenname is tekkucks are mentally ill
>still took the time to learn KBD
Jayden Thompson
cool macros dude. What software are you using?
Nathaniel Mitchell
This is your mind on shart farter vortex
Tyler Gutierrez
>still took the time to learn KBD
you mean a total of 2 minutes? LMFAOOO
Evan Butler
I've never been in the latter situation so I can't tell you if you're right. 99% of the fights I've played in fighting games I've lost. It's not fun to lose all the time, if it were the games would reward you for losing.
Chase Fisher
Just play SamSho my dude
Luke Stewart
why does a secretary need to dress like this?
Caleb Cooper
Wow my porn thread ended up becoming actual vidya discussion cool
Mason Johnson
Well I can't play Virtua Fighter so what you want me to do?
Lincoln Morris
I used to, back when I had friends that did. I don't these days because I don't care to get better just to beat people online. I enjoy them when I'm playing, but victories feel hollow and unsatisfying and I never feel the motivation to launch the game again afterwards.
Bentley Collins
>no rank
>no timestamp
Ryan Lewis
>not physical abuse
fag
Mason Turner
I still dont know how to fight Mika
Brandon Lopez
Mash your buttons harder than her.
Grayson Ramirez
So hype for Tekken Season 3. Cant believe we are getting new moves. Hopwfully negan isnt so shit
Andrew Long
I mostly just do so semi-casually. I can't help but love the game and I come back to it every now and then simply because of how beautiful everything is and how smooth it plays.
Andrew Smith
I'm bad. Very bad. Tried out DB FighterZ because I was told it's a good beginner's fighting game. Out of like 50 online matches I won maybe 2, and I'm sure one of them just gave up.
Blake Powell
>non-ex shoryuken is no longer invincible in V
defend this
Eli Ross
Uh, no, the soul calibur one.
Ayden Gray
Its a terrible fighter. Too fast for a beginner even though its simple to learn. Samsho is what you need
Tyler Evans
>battle costume
Gee I wonder what shes dressed for
Kayden Sullivan
>Bought Samsho on PS4.
>Barely touch it because I barely touch my ps4.
I don't know why I didn't just wait for the PC release.
Asher Lopez
KOF had super armor DP since god known when. Stop bitching.
Evan Campbell
Nobody wants to play that samugay game.
Andrew Cook
>why cant i just turn my brain off and dp every time my opponent dares be plus against me
learn to play the game Kenshitter
Elijah Williams
>Still no Hilde.
Mother fuckers.
Asher Walker
Wait youre actually fucking retarded. 200 people is plenty for fighting games. I played both GG and UNIST before their playerbase boost after evo. Never had issues getting people with 2-3f lag faggot.
Justin Bailey
Becuase itll be dead on pc in 2 weeks. Only tekken and sf have a good pc community
Aiden Cook
Embrace the future.
Cooper Bailey
>he doesn't bait DPs
Logan Cook
you dont have a fighter's mind or competitive spirit nor do you have a the mentality that supports dilligence in learning
you lack discipline
change yourself
Samuel Sullivan
>he loses against mashing kens
Bentley Bennett
Cause Capcom doesn't give a shit about my boy and the rest doesn't appeal to me all that much.
Cameron Martinez
Is Samsho actually a good beginner's fighter? I bought Samsho V Special and it was way too hard even against bots. Way too fast and I couldn't do anything.
Josiah Walker
>too much DLC
>service based model
>casualizing mechanics which results in same old characters or the Marvel 2 effect
SF4 was perfect. I don't know how people can stomach anime games. Most of them are just as jewish in money schemes.
Christopher Nguyen
Any recommend casual fighting game?
I fucking hate command moves that does 360/Rotate bullshit and hold/charge your ass bullshit whatever
Ethan Brown
Why does it always boil down to race with you? Practice if you want to be good. Stop blaming your own ineptitude on things out of your control.
Charles Smith
Kens are hard dude
>jump kick
>block it
>get thrown
>jump kick
>don't block it
>combo'd into DP
every time
Brayden Morris
Daigo has said that you get better at fighting games the older you get
Lincoln Cruz
She's a virgin who acts like she is sexual.
Matthew White
meanwhile he doesnt even get to top 32 using his cheater box
Thomas Brown
Smash bros
Hudson Diaz
I can only pull off this shit in practice on Tekken. Leniency is too low and with the stress of an actual match it's very hard to do.
Matthew Gomez
Except that charge or grapperlers are easiest to learn.
But a bitch to master.
Jason Wood
Any EUbros here? What do you play?
Thomas Jackson
>aa
>it's sfv so you trade
Ian Harris
>calling something out means you lose to it
Jackson Peterson
I've never had a problem finding matches on PC. Granted PS4 is probably way more popular but I just like playing games on my PC more.
Charles Davis
That motion will destroy your controller stick guaranteed
Thomas Lopez
Not everyone has the same attitude towards games that they have towards any other aspect of their life.
Kevin Barnes
Fighterz only requires 1/4 circles. You couple play a brawler like Xeno 2 or Storm 4.
Ian Richardson
360 or 720s are easy.
The issue is doing them raw.
Ryan Baker
>too much DLC
>service based model
pretty sure IV had more characters and stages, probably more skins too
Gavin Roberts
>i need thousands of people to have a player base.
show me one locals where you have over 1k players at any time please.
Jayden Wood
>bait DPs
>he doesn't DP at the same time with the confidence his will win out
Justin Peterson
I do, been playing Tekken 7 this last year and got to green ranks. Now going to return back to Guilty Gear Xrd and learn that so I'm ready for 2020. Play DBFZ every now and again, that game can frustrate me though, need to get to SSG rank with my friend. Kinda want to try SFV S4 but every time I reinstall that game I'm disappointing and don't have the FM for the new characters.
Jose Bennett
If you're dogshit maybe, people anti air with fucking crouch jab in sfv
>The issue is doing them raw.
if its hard to do stand 360 just do it off dash or tick
Christopher Brooks
>all 200 of those players are playing online in public lobbies right now and are in your region
retard
Josiah Hall
Yoriko's Pentagram requires very specific inputs for each direction, as they are signified by little sparks of light. Any sort of motion will not cause anything to come out.
Thing is, it's not a real "motion" as you have a lot of time to input all six directions in order (the command list omits the fact you have to go back to the initial direction to complete the pentagram). It's actually pretty easy.
Ayden Carter
kolin is built for ________
Caleb Phillips
I would refute this but I can care less about SFV at this point.
Luke Ortiz
just bought her nostalgia outfit cause fuck those pin stripe stockings.
is she really a karin 2.0, cause i would like to try Poison as well but i hear she is just as hard to us as Menat.
Daniel Sanchez
>people are now associating TK air fireballs as Arslan signature fucking move
America should've bombed Pakistan after Iraq so that curry nigger have already died.
Jose Gutierrez
you cant refute it because its true
Nathan Rivera
Not him but, I don't want to. How do you gain discipline when you're not interested in gaining discipline in the first place?
Levi Bell
I do. Bought king of fighters 14 last week, been practicing solo vs AI since the Online is dead, don’t have any friends who are into fightan games unfortunately.
Blake Reyes
I want her but also dislike the striped socks. Her other outfits don't look any better though. I'd play her default with color 8 but it's locked behind hard survival so fuck that.
Landon Robinson
Carson Brooks
I'm pretty sure that XIV on PS4 still have lobbies.
Nicholas Richardson
Drop the DualShock and get a hori mini for 30-40 bucks and git gud. I wasted so much time trying to be good with a controller but didn’t really get anywhere but than I tried fightstick and honestly I was worse for a lil while but than everything kinda clicked and I got exponentially better. King main btw just learned how to do his optimal carry combos and it feels so good to look back on my progress considering I was like u a chump who couldn’t even kbd
Leo Roberts
Yeah don't know why people are acting like SFV's DLC is something new. I got USF4 and it doesn't include most or maybe any of that. It is not a GOTY version or anything.
Adrian Gray
If only her face actually looked like it does in fan art. Any newbies getting into GGXRD or tekken 7 here?
Cameron Bell
Too stupid to learn combos, i always end up mashing and even the most simple motion, the hadouken, is too complicated for me.
I appreciate the girls though.
Ian Turner
I mostly just play Guilty Gear and, to a lesser degree, SamSho, but I play on PS4. I played UNIST for a bit when it came out, but I had some issues with it and I ended up losing the desire to play because of it, I'll still probably buy UNI cl-r though. I play a bit of Tekken, but I'm not crazy about it and I'm quite bad at it.
Wyatt Smith
I have it on PC. The only lobbies available are in Mexico with garbage ping.
Josiah Johnson
Those are some fucking gigantic tits.
Carson Reed
does she slow time or something when she does it? I see that its half speed but even so that seems super slow
Nathaniel Allen
handholding
Dominic Diaz
Buy hori mini. Cheap good fight stick to get better on until you decide to get a “real” fightstick like an obsidian or something
William Thompson
which outfit is better, beach police poison or nostalgia poison and by that i mean does nostalgia have a different face model. and not hormone induced.
Kayden Ross
Boring, require a huge time investment, competitive only, extremely repetitive
Wyatt Diaz
damn dude can you teach me how to "mash" perfect dash inputs like webm related?
Nathan Green
>took the time
it takes no time at all its literally baby easy mode
Carter Smith
That they are
Michael Gutierrez
jokes on you a single costume costs this much money now rather than buying them in packs of 5
Henry King
BlazBlue and Smash.
Hunter Morgan
Shes fucking busted and has nearly every tool in the game
>3framer
>crossup
>overhead
>anti air normals
>anti air specials
>arcing fireball like sim or can hit it again to make it horizontal and fast like ed
>invincible reversal
>command run pressure
>nearly every special is safe on block
>huge plus frames on normals
>annoying pressure strings
All thats missing is a command grab and an air fireball
Logan White
I still don't know why burgers are so averse of SNK fighters.
But well you should had gotten 98um or 02.
Samuel Carter
requires a lot of time to git gud which i don't have
learning all the mechanics in the game is stupid when they come out with the next game in the series which doesn't have the same combos or what have you
Jordan James
>implying SFV doesnt havr costume packs
Gabriel Ramirez
>4-5 costumes for 4.99
>now 1 costume for 4.99 + tip
Chase Bennett
It makes her specials and Supers more powerful for the duration of that "POWER UP" bar.
Alexander King
?
Connor Hall
Do you play BB on PC by any chance?
Juan Cook
t. seething stick fag
Hunter Lewis
why wouldnt they punish you during the input though?
Matthew Ramirez
Brayden Murphy
You paid 28 shekels for it?
Nicholas Robinson
Ill play SFV once they uncensor it in the US
Wyatt Parker
>got a higher res of those costumes?
Jason Bailey
I don't like getting pissed all the time
Hudson Diaz
just use mods you fucking moron
Camden Cooper
bro just get the PC version and uncensor it or download a million nude mods or some shit
Luke Rivera
The little balls of light have a hitbox so you can catch someone coming at you, and you can spend a meter to shield yourself while you perform the Pentagram.
Jack Edwards
here's your 4 costumes senpai that'll be 10 dollars
Nathaniel Foster
pls, for those who own both, which posion costume is better model wise.
summer or nostalgia.
Anthony Miller
The price per costume ratio in V is fucked compared to IV but just wait for a 50% off sale and it's about the same.
Jason Martin
You can compare them all here, though idk if the detail is high enough for you to tell
Chase Fisher
Run back home cryin to your momma.
Robert Jackson
Just go on the Capcom site they have high res images for every character and skjn
They might have a model viewer too but that might just be in game
Brayden Howard
What is even censored here?
Cooper Long
no rotation..
Juan King
Interesting mechanic, is the character any good?
Jaxson Cox
Yeah do like said though and look at the model viewer in game, though I still don't think you can rotate it, but should still get a better view of her face.
Adam King
Choose it well, Yea Forums
Michael Smith
Marvel, tekken and guilty gear. Honorable mention to KoF
Mason Perez
this is tekken players
Daniel James
Angel Walker
Juilty Jear
Matthew Bell
Please put the juggling clown back for Tekken.
Wyatt Cruz
whoever put the gigachad in Tekken's spot probably doesn't play Tekken cause even Tekken players embraced the juggling clowns image
Adam Harris
>forgetting the amount of arguments between franchises under discussion
Dylan Ross
Guilty Gear.
Adrian Morales
>I still don't know why burgers are so averse of SNK fighters.
We only just got them supporting tekken in decent numbers. Getting them to try anything different is really hard
>VF players not even in the image now
youtube.com
Anthony Ward
SamSho for PC when
Austin Robinson
What about soul calibur players
Camden Sanchez
I find weird since SNK fighters are pretty easy to learn. Ain't no SF2 but soon as you get accustomed with speed the rest is trivial.
Jacob King
It's going to die in a week.
Thomas Nguyen
>Marvel players
>Black Peoples
Pretty much accurate
Nolan Perez
Actual women with actual vaginas
Nolan Jackson
not if they allow cross play
Sebastian Hughes
Which they won't
Thomas Moore
Power Rangers for PC when
Jordan Perry
Most people seem to put Yoriko as mid tier at best as of AH3 Six Stars. She has comparatively long reaching normals, a Dhalsim divekick and a nice air fireball for zoning. Offense is mediocre without that pentagram power up, but you can treat her like a rushdown character when it is up due to it also making her quarter-circle forward special invulnerable and some other moves safer.
Kevin Jones
>Tekken
Brandon Gray
Henry Nguyen
i use the Hori Fighting Commander
Colton Walker
I partly blame XIII, cause it makes people think KoF is a combo series like . When most of the series has incredibly easy combos. For the most part though it is just brand loyalty
Aiden Smith
>buy KoF14 on sale
>do the tutorial
>see this shit
>refund
Kevin Sullivan
lazy fuck found
Julian Carter
I never learned shit, just used Chang and styled on the niggers on my school that did combos with Leona and Kyo.
Logan Ward
but that doesn't even look like a hard thing to do. Just a chain of specials and that's it.
Jonathan Price
>Pokken controller is perfect for literally every fighting game
>except SF's six button layout
Still the best 12 bucks I ever dropped on a controller
Lucas Green
whats that third thing that looks like a DBS powerup
Everything else makes sense
Cooper Fisher
I play kof98, kof02, alpha 3, and ST
Eli Johnson
Most of those combos are max stock BS, you rarely have chance to pull them on a match. But also 98 and 02 drops those kind of combos on challenge mode.
Albeit free cancel combos are really easy to pull.
Charles Hernandez
>"i'm smarter then everyone else"
fuck off
Kevin Ross
>do the tutorial
Where in the tutorial does it say do a combo of that length? Even in the trials it never gets much further than normal, normal, max, normal, special, super, dream cancel.
XIV's combos aren't really all that difficult.
Asher Cox
does mordhau or chivalry qt a high level count
Owen Lewis
Max mode.
John Scott
I'm fundamentally bad at mixups and RPS, which are in vogue. The core component of SFV is the wakeup game and I simply am not good at knowing which option the opponent will go for.
GG is fun though. There's usually some sort of defensive option that will make the situation better unless your opponent made a really good read.
Carson Nelson
no but I respect you for not being delusional and thinking it is
Dominic Davis
Justin Russell
You would do a similar movement to b-reverse shakunetsu or ken's roundhouse from a crouching position.
Chase Gray
that webm as an example is the same as calling button mashing high level mane, just because the other player doesn't know how to deal with a wiggly retard doesn't mean no one does
Hunter Ross
Lucia is what Kolin would have been if she wasn't such trash.
Jeremiah Foster
I imagine those are charge motions
does KoF allow you to do charges by holding DownBack into UpBack/DownForward? If that's the case then I imagine It's more doable
Dylan Torres
Christ. Chivalry's meta was so boring and braindead I'm glad I dodged Mordhau.
Blake Butler
Waiting for Riots fighting game
Levi Garcia
calm down, he's saying hes dumber than everyone else
He cant manage to hold knowledge on fightan and anything else at the same time, you should take pity on him
Ethan Parker
Yes it does. KOF actually have very few pure charge characters. And the ones that had were bonkers.
Angel Price
>Kolin
>trash
at worst shes a solid mid tier
Adam Gonzalez
It's hilarious how desperate consolefags are, jumping in every FG thread desperately trying to invalidate PC. Imagine how awesome it'll be when more people find out how much PC is better at everything.
Now, me personally, I want cross-plat. The sooner every game starts coming out with cross-plat support, the better.
Michael Bell
It's ok bro, your dark souls pvp and mordhau skills are totally valid and everyone really respects you.
Brandon Nelson
This is the minimum input precision needed to start playing the character. Is this supposed to be impressive mastery of the game?
Hunter King
because every year shitty developers release a game with my favorite characters removed and a bunch of shits i have no interest in learning right away
Andrew Brooks
Cammy's only good for being tossed by and between juri and chun
Landon Cox
but dark souls is garbage
Aaron Davis
If Juri posters were as dedicated to learning a fighting game as they were to posting Juri, then maybe there'd be a SINGLE GOOD JURI PLAYER!
Juri is not a bad character! No one who's actually good at fighting games plays her, because they're busy wanking over her! It's actually fucking despicably sad! Fighting games are LITERALLY dying because of Juri!!!
Aiden Long
>shitty edit
tekken fags are literally the worst
Liam Cooper
don;t rely on trials, 90 percent of them are just for flash. and i think they discourage new players so much. even pros drop max damage combos.
Juan Adams
seething
Lucas Kelly
>If Juri posters were as dedicated to learning a fighting game as they were to posting Juri, then maybe there'd be a SINGLE GOOD JURI PLAYER!
Logan Thomas
when's meltan
Matthew Lewis
Where's soulcal? where's unist/melty?
Isaiah Davis
I do. I just suck ass at them.
Gabriel Jones
>melty
>fanbase
Angel Watson
Frame data is not important.
youtube.com
Ayden Flores
Baikenfags are even worse because they actually don't play the game.
Jack Morgan
i don't consider wife beaters people
Alexander Perez
I just started actually. Playing Guilty Gear Xrd
Lucas Collins
Fixed
Benjamin Foster
No one does desu
Joseph Young
>imagine being too socially awkward to play fighting games
Charles Cook
Like clockwork, the obsessed Tekken hater has come to cry since Tekken is the most popular fighting game out right now, and he can't stand that.
Jacob Parker
but Infiltration doesn't play king of mexicans
Michael Long
>king of mexicans
Jack Johnson
Based Labchad
Christian Baker
What? That video has a section on frame data and why it is important
Elijah Cooper
based fighting games lover
William Butler
Yea, and that whole section boils down to the fastest and safest move in any situation wins. So instead of focusing of learning the data, just play normally. When you find a scenario where you can't explain what happens, look it up. Otherwise, it doesn't matter. Think of it like this, chances are if you went to Evo, 90% of the people playing couldn't tell you the frame data for their character. But they could tell you whether something is "safe" or "not". TL;DR Frame data just explains your experiences, but is worthless if you have none.
Hunter Foster
He won SamSho at EVO
John Gonzalez
Stuff like this scared me off locals. Everyone always seem to know each other and didn't want to play more than 5 games with me before fucking off to their group. It really feels like you have to be good enough to compensate for your lack of social skills to get people to run sets with you.
Elijah Powell
Just tell them you're new and you want to get in some sets. People like to show off their knowledge and will help you. You can also try bringing a setup. People will ask to play with you.
Jaxon Ross
old man reactions
I'm too slow for mobas at this point
Henry Nguyen
the new samsho for ps4 is great for beginners. even retards like me can have fun with it
Thomas Wood
would hang out with mahvel, kof and gg players
Nicholas Edwards
tekkenfags definitely know frame data by heart
Kayden Hernandez
No they do not. Do you really think every tekken player knows every piece of frame data by heart? That's crazy talk. Probably only the pros have an encyclopedia of frame data knowledge like that but even then it's probably just for the tournament characters.
Hudson Johnson
Find any spicy Janemba tech? All I've got is that anything optimal is basically not worth going for like rejumps/sideswitches because of really tight timing. And the corner orb setup from sliding knockdown is kinda iffy. He does have some semi-decent zoning with assists but without them he's in trouble.
Brandon Walker
No, recognizing which moves are safe and which are punishable are very important. Sure you don't need to learn the optional punish for every situation but it helps in recognizing frame traps and what not.
You're right when it is a part of matchup knowledge but to say it's not important is wrong.
Asher Davis
>Think about picking up a game.
>Look at SNK Heroines and hear its a simpler fighting game.
>Still full price on Steam.
>Look at the other fighting games.
>See they're more technical then ever, 3d or 2d.
>Ok, maybe I'll put in more effort this time.
>Do research to see if the communities improved at all.
>All autists obsessed with having $100+ fightsticks and complaining about today's fighting games not being more in-depth and technical.
Think I'll just stick to opportunistic play of mid 90's fighting arcade games, especially when I'm in Reno and Vegas.
Henry Howard
You mentioned evo so yeah I'm talking about pros. Most of the cast is tournament characters because tekken has good balance and low variety. That low variety also makes it easier to learn frame data (ie everyone's jab is 10 frames). And since Tekken is a turn based game, you have to know exactly what you're allowed to get away with on your turn.
Camden Rivera
Don't underestimate autism.
Brayden Sanchez
>Good soundtrack
>Good artstyle
>In-depth training mode
Tekken 7 doesn't have any of these. Still a great game; it's a shame they dropped the ball on everything not related to the gameplay itself.
Colton Richardson
At the level being discussed, which is assumed to be beginner, it definitely not important. And at any level the numbers themselves are only relevant within context. The point being that the focus should only being the results, as the values mean little outside of that. From the implied perspective, knowing and remembering the value won't change whether you win or lose an exchange. Terrible comparison but its like a child learning not to touch a stove, it doesn't matter if its 100°c or 101°c as their still going to get burned.
Brody Flores
The fighting game dilemma:
>Make the game simpler
>Lose original fanbase
>Make the game more complicated
>Fails to attract new players
And if it doesn't change, its just 'rehash' and it dies quickly
Jayden Baker
gameplay in tekken is dog shit the game is literally a button masher with no depth or complexity
Jayden Nelson
thoughts?
Nathaniel Carter
>Make good changes to game mechanics
>Fanbase shits on you anyway and immediately assumes it is "dumbed down"
Jackson Collins
The inputs are absolutely fucking retarded and unintuitive.
Jose Cruz
You can't listen to these without telling me the soundtrack is bad
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Jack Hill
My main takeaways from him are that he is a very useful point if you can master his gimmicks. He has almost no need for meter, since j.2M gives him knockdowns from any hit anywhere. His hitconfirms are also strong because of how big some of his buttons are (in certain directions); his 5LL reminds me a LOT of Bardock's which tells me he's going to win the scramble a lot and convert off of it. His 2H his hilariously vertical but it starts low so it won't have the problem Broly once did and it's so damn tall that you can probably catch super jumps and other weird escapes with it. His alternate Level 1 is tremendous because of its instant corner carry (although I encountered a bug where it literally cannot combo into Zamasu's Level 3).
The projectile counter being full invincible the moment it eats one, with the counter being a projectile itself AND letting Janemba cancel into any normal or special makes it a lot better than Jiren's projectile counter as well. His teleport is a straight-up gimmick but with the right assist he can use it to side-switch in a blockstring without leaving gap or use the backwards teleport to bait DPs since he can punish them with his good reach. Biggest bummer is that his regular Level 1 is one of those that makes all other supers go away after the first hit, which means you can't pull any weird shenanigans where his super hits first when you Z Change into him and the original character's hits after.
Lastly, I LOVE the assist. It's a very "lab monster" assist but I'm glad there's another one that tracks. Honestly, it's almost like a projectile Vajra, except it's balanced by not giving a knockdown every time. Still, the bounce it gives when they hit the ground gives you so many combo options for ground-to-air conversions before the j.2H Smash, and you can use it to set up things like Zamasu orbs/Flight mid-combo as well. It's not as amazing as Galactic Donuts but for a character that's definitely more of a Battery it's good.
Gabriel Lopez
You're right, I'm gonna tell you. The soundtrack is fucking bad, it's 90% wubs
Levi Morris
It's kind hard to update mechanics even if game stays largely the same. KOF for example switched to 3on3 in 03 and XI and people shat on it even if XI is pretty good game and had ton of fanservice.
Ayden Thomas
>Make the game more complicated
>Fails to attract new players
Has there ever actually been a case of this? Not an non-established IP comes out and is complex. But a fighter getting more complex and directly because of that becomes less successful.
Joseph Ortiz
SF3.
If wasn't people bitching about 3d, it was about being too complex.
Daniel Scott
Big nose
Aaron King
Clearly the correct response is that you should make a side game that's more accessible. Sadly the community reacts that they shouldn't have wasted the resources on other projects or this is obviously the dumbed down direction the main series is headed.
Another approach is that they could add characters that are easy to approach. Surprise! If you play that character, the community calls you a shitter unless the character is good. Then the character is just auto win plz nerf.
Fighting games have been fucked for the last decade or sol
Connor Bell
Why not play with a pad then?
Angel Carter
That was more arcades dying mixed with losing the recognisable faces. Also the early editions not being so hot.
Caleb Collins
Street Fighter 3.
Anthony Diaz
The original fanbase is getting old and dying off anyway or leaving the community to raise families, fuck 'em. Make the games easier so newbies can get in on the ground level. You shouldn't have to have played SF since 1991 in the arcades to stand a halfway decent chance at winning in V.
Jack Diaz
How do I get a gf like the right
Isaac Nelson
You're 100% correct.
Reason: Panda
Luke Mitchell
Tekken became less and less popular as movelists went from 20 moves to 100+
Charles Peterson
I love fighting games but I only play single player because I'm too shit to play online but too good to play with friends
Brody Evans
The new samurai showdown has '90s design and it's also way more consumer friendly compared to the other games. The season pass was free for a while and I think there's a free dlc character when the most devs give out for free is a costume if you pre order
Owen Collins
All the crying in this thread. you all want me to believe you won't lay hands on the Riot FG when Ahri with her huge knockers is in?
James Sanchez
Yikes this is fucking awful, how can anyone listen to this shit?
Adrian Parker
We're getting to the point where all of the wannabe grognards who want their pretzel motions and 87 hit combos are being zoned out so fighting games can have some actual depth without the hollow, fake "skill" of "execution" making players fight the system before they can actually fight the opponent.
Quarter circles at most for specials, or special attacks existing as command normals, big combos being toned down in favor of big single hits mattering more (with big combos still existing more to style on people rather than being absolutely necessary for damage).
Wyatt Martinez
Pretty much what my thoughts on him as well, except I can't make him work with my other 2 characters well enough. He can assist the entire cast but the entire cast can't assist him. Namely, SSJ Goku and AGohan.
Its not like synergy is 0 but I feel he'd benefit more from other assists. Got him on mid atm since AGohan is much better for point with this team.
Grayson Moore
>you all want me to believe you won't lay hands on the Riot FG
i wont cause even if it is a good game riot will horribly mismanage it
Matthew Myers
I think they wrote an article about you:
thehardtimes.net
Jonathan Brooks
Highly doubt it would be based on LoL, too many characters
Asher Howard
Get a fightpad with a better dpad then.
Chase Campbell
For real, fighting games have the worst communities.
>playing online, always encounter hackers, people who quit just before they lose of people who scream nigger down the microphone because you cant mute mid match.
>always get bodied and never have chance to learn since they just combo you for five minutes straight.
They have the potential to be fun but they are legitimately just to autistic for the mainstream.
Juan Butler
>Quarter circles at most for specials, or special attacks existing as command normals, big combos being toned down in favor of big single hits mattering more (with big combos still existing more to style on people rather than being absolutely necessary for damage
So why does every one hate on bbtag?
Luis Lewis
Every time that anyone tries to do those 1 button special fighters it bombs hard.
Granblue might have a chance due cygames dropping money on it. But I really doubt that people going give a fuck about whatever riot is doing past first or second month.
Brayden Cox
I'm scared of playing online and losing
Ayden Cox
I'll be playing the fuck out of Ahri and any fem yordle that inevitably get added especially after the titty mods pop up
Dylan Wood
That's all the more reason to base it on LoL. Characters with pre-existing movesets, backstories and fan attachment. A guaranteed roster for years to come.
Cameron Morris
they can always make a teamfighter
Brandon Lee
Why would I play arcade games on a gamepad? I'm not a console player.
Robert King
Most of the new moves are boring to use and you can usually find one like it in multiple characters. You can only make do many punches and kicked before combos with different chars start looking similar
John Bell
if it has the depth of LoL there's no problem fitting 100+ characters in
Asher Ramirez
That's exactly what Capcom did in SF5 and everyone hated it, and its less successful than SF4
Connor Myers
Don't worry im in the same position as you
Jackson Carter
>always get bodied and never have chance to learn since they just combo you for five minutes straight.
tee bee haych, this. I don't know how you can learn matchups when the other guy just clobbers you and then it's on to a new guy with a new character who also clobbers you, repeat ad infinity
John Wright
True, good points. I just think it's more likely for Riot to attempt to branch off a little. You're probably right though, too much money to be made off an existing property.
Samuel Bell
Once you accept that you will eventually fail, you'll quickly come to realize there are people online worse then you.
Jacob Sanchez
dbfz didn't need depth to get characters in
and the lol roster would make it unarguably deeper since not everyone and their mother shoots lazers
Dylan Allen
Because it handled it's dlc methods and communications very poorly. All of those issues have been addressed, and now we're sitting in anticipation of 2.0.
You have to understand, if a game doesn't have SF numbers, anime FGC like to call a game dead without understanding what self perpetuating means.
Jeremiah Green
Except SFV isn't easy. I'm new and still getting my ass kicked. Combos are still too hard.
Lincoln Gray
I just like to play against the computer :)
Wyatt Rodriguez
that’s hot
Parker Hernandez
lol pussy
Andrew Parker
>>playing online, always encounter hackers, people who quit just before they lose of people who scream nigger down the microphone because you cant mute mid match.
Rage quitters are a thing but rest seems bullshit. Also first thing that anyone needs to learn is block, spacing and punishing.
Even if you don't know that dank 90% combo the basics will carry you through most of ladder.
Justin Williams
What game do you like the most?
Owen White
Aiden Howard
punishing means dank 90% combo, it's part of basics
Evan Turner
I'm glad someone else looks at his assist as a DBFZ Strider assist. His assist is amazing for combos but there are a few characters that an use it in neutral. Frieza/Janemba is such a good pairing since they both complement each other in combos AND neutral. There are also timings where you can call Janemba assist to punish a superdash make him very interesting.
Tachikawa is running TeenGohan/Janemba/Frieza and I truly believe that team has an insane amount of potential. Stuff like this reminds me of Kaimarts old team of Vegito/TeenGohan/KidBuu before they nerfed double supers.
youtube.com
At the end of the day I don't see people running him but I do enjoy seeing hyper synergistic shells doing work. I wish this game had more unique shells like this that isn't low tier+Bardock.
Luis Morris
Literally happened when I played USF4 online.
>first guy had lag switch he turned on second round, freezing him in place
>second guy reeeee's and screams nigger because I beat him first round
>almost beat third guy and he just quits, denying me fught tokens.
You can't even ban them on SF4 pc, its so fucking gay
Josiah Harris
Then stop playing kusoges with touch of death combos.
Robert Miller
super recognisable IP. If only 1% of the playerbase and former players, who will probably all check it out because it will be free, stick to it, it will be the largest fighting game there is.
Also the guy who announced it is the creator of ggpo (maybe it wa his brother). But that means it will have one of the best netcodes in the business totally flattening everything that is not MK. They can suit up the characters in all the skins they already made.
Yeah it would be super unwise to not base it on League characters. Also League characters are so not fleshed out that they can put in a lot more stuff.
Carson Adams
Maybe 1% of the people you face will be worse, mind you. The rest will body you relentlessly to death.
Austin Evans
i am literally too awful at them and cant apply whatever i learn during matches most of the time which gives me an incredible amount of frustration. it doesnt help that every fightan community in my region is small as fuck and the only members are people who played the series since it's inception.
so i dont play them anymore
Landon Evans
Mortal Kombat and Tekken. DBZF was fun too. Weirdly I did not like Injustice at all.
Tyler Richardson
I went online, got hit by snake edges over and over, stopped going online
Hunter Morgan
Depends on the game really. Regardless, you won't get better if you do play. You can't win if you don't try.
Austin Wilson
lol
Jack Harris
Yeah and rito has enough money for a decent launch roster, good graphics, good netcode and some tournament pull so there's a chance of it getting big. Setting is already somewhat fleshed out, lots of opportunity for single player modes and such. Hopefully the gameplay isn't fucking baby food though.
No Irelia no buy
Aaron Brooks
Really liking what I'm seeing out of the first few minutes, especially the use of the assist to convert off of raw DPs. Glad I'm not the only one on Yea Forums who adores team-building metas.
Luis Carter
This is the sort of thing people always say about spin offs in any medium, yet it rarely pans out. Having an established player base in another genre doesn't mean 1% will care, there isn't even a good chance 0.5% will and of those less will stick around.
Just look at how many huge IPs have gotten fighters in the past, DB is a cultural icon and can't sustain that 1%
Elijah Ross
DB never had a game with 100 million monthly players. Not even close.
Nathan Collins
the only flaw I see them in doing this is their lack of hand to hand fighters in lol
Vi is the obvious choice for a fightan and maybe after that you could have Ezreal as the Ryu but other than that there arent too many options