Zelda

How is it unreasonable?
If it's the crux if his argument, then he should at least be able to explain it.
And you don't have a horse in this race to begin with. If I were me (and I am me) I would tell you to fuck off right back.

1 + 1 = 2, there's nothing to explain, official text say it's a parallel world, not a different timeline, totally different things.
You can't explain how much people resemble other people from the "Original" Hyrule and still say is a different timeline.

Or. You know. You could just quote the creators.

Oh. Wait. You can't because they were ambiguous as fuck about it.

Termina probably doesn't exist in Adult/Downfall timeline, only if the "timezones" are 1:1 and even if that is not the case, Termina without Link is doomed.

>"A parallel universe, also known as a parallel dimension, alternate universe or alternate reality, is a hypothetical self-contained plane of existence, co-existing with one's own. The sum of all potential parallel universes that constitute reality is often called a “multiverse". While the three terms are generally synonymous and can be used interchangeably in most cases, there is sometimes an additional connotation implied with the term "alternate universe/reality" that implies that the reality is a variant of our own, with some overlap with the similarly-named alternate history. "
Now explain to me, in detail, where the creators explicitly differentiate between parallel world and alternate timelines.

Majora's mask came from Termina. It was going to return eventually. And Skull kids fuckery had been going on well before links arrival.

Got b& in another thread, eh?
Way to go, champ.

In OoT the Skull Kid is still wearing the mask you give him as a child 7 years in the future, and in the Child timeline (Where MM takes place) He doesn't have it.
That's because Link never gave him that mask after Zelda sent him back to the past, back to a time prior to their first meeting, so he stole Majora's Mask from the Happy Mask Salesman triggering the events of MM.
In the other timelines the Skull kid never went to Termina or at the very least never had any reason to steal any masks.

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>he doesn't know the lore

By lore, did you mean fan wank?

The creators don't care about that and will never, as far as we know (Officialy) Majoras Mask is a dream. Confirmed by the last "Official" Book, which is shit.

Unlike HH the new one wasn't written by Nintendo and can be dismissed.

If you have to put "official" in quotes or say "as far as we know" to clarify it, there not anything remotely official about it.

He doesn't die, he eventually returns to Hyrule and settles down. TP Link is his descendant.

But it was approved by Nintendo.
Yeah, that what i meant by "official". in my opinion even the HH timeline is wrong, fan already had a coherent timeline theory in which it only had 2 Branches and everything fitted somewhat perfectly.

>But it was approved by Nintendo
Give be quotes from HH saying Termina was a dream.

it wasn't HH, i think it was Hyrule Enciclopedia, and like i said, it doesn't matter what the fucking books says, at end it's always "subject" to change and "fans" can "Interpret" the timeline as they want.

Nothing because Termina isn't real, it's a dream world.

See above and stop discussing this bullshit, the official answer is that is parallel world in Skull Kid and Link's dreams, and official statements > headcanons

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Twilight Realm/Dark World

>official statements
>Termina is a dream world

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>he doesn't know
That's what happen when you forget your homework

Happy Mask Salesman doesn't appear in Adult Link's Hyrule (Though he appears in the ending). Best explanation is that Ganondorf taking over Hyrule (Or link helping his business in the past) kept the HMS from finding Majora's Mask.

As far as I'm concerned anything that isn't in the game/s itself is pure fanwankery. That goes for any excuse Aonuma finds later to shit on Ocarina of Time link.

What happened to the land that would become New Hyrule in the Child and Decline Timelines?

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As far we know that land could just be one of the big land masses from AoL/BotW

The Tower of Spirits would still be there

>muh zelda timelines
just don't even bother with this garbage

>Just don't discuss videogames
never change Yea Forums

hyrule historia irreparably broke the zelda timeline, there's no longer any point in speculating about it

All it really did was split ALttP into its own timeline when it's supposed to follow FSA

The tower of spirits, the spirit tracks and the lokomo were created by the spirits of good after seal Malladus, no Malladus means no tracks, no tower, no lokomo, etc

And you know, even if the tower was there at some point of time BotW happens thousands years after every other game so the tower could have been destroyed

Malladus pre-dates Link and Tetra ever showing up
It also took them months/years to find the land, so I doubt that the land is anything you would find near Hyrule

At a certain point you just have to stop taking the devs seriously about what's canon if they don't bother making any mention or hint of it in the actual game or any of the subsequent games.

>it's supposed to follow FSA
In FSA Ganon is a new Ganon (not the one from Ocarina of Time) after the previous ones died and reincarnated, and this new Ganon didn't even became king of the gerudo. Meanwhile in the Oracles series Twinrova mentions the guy they are resurrecting is the king of Gerudo (and if ALTTP was supposed to be after FSA, Vaati and FSA Ganon should be alive inside the Four Sword, which makes impossible the resurrection of Ganon's prior incarnation).
FSA is visually based on ALTTP, but that's all.

FSA actually tells how Ganon got is trident and FS was included in the LttP GBA port as an attempt to tie the games together

You're assuming the HMS is the one from Hyrule but we never meet a corresponding one from Termina. We only see Skull Kid and Link traveling the lanes between worlds or whatever. He supposedly knows Link from learning Saria's Song and he knows the Giants from Termina. Skull Kid could have jacked the mask from Termina's HMS, gone towards Hyrule or the Lost Woods in between or however it works, and once he lost Tatl the mask started taking over and plotting doom due to losing the influence of both fairies.

they even mention the name "Ganondorf".

>Malladus pre-dates Link and Tetra ever showing up
Malladus was indirectly created by Link and Tetra, ST is confirmed to happen a hundred years after WW and the Malladus' backstory mentions he appeared in the land of the spirits of gods a hundred years before the events of the game, meaning he appeared for first time arround at the same time as WW.
Considering the Ganondorf from the Adult timeline is confirmed to be death for good and free from Demise's hate, that Malladus, Ganon and Demise are the only characters to ever be refered as "demon king" and that Malladus' final form is literally not!Ganon it's pretty obvious Malladus is just Demise's hate in another form.
>Link and Zelda kill the Demon King Ganondorf
>the hate of the Demon King Demise leaves Ganondorf
>like the curse dictates Demise's hate still reincarnates to destroy Hylia and her hero even without Ganondorf
>Demon King Malladus is born and sealed for 100 years by the spirits of good

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Yes, the intention at the time was to fix LttP's backstory after WW broke it.

The Tower of Spirits was already then when Link and Tetra arrived. The first battle against him had already occurred. What Tetra did by arriving was provide the ideal vessel for his eventual resurrection.

>it's pretty obvious Malladus is just Demise's hate in another form.
God fucking damn it. I hate Skyward Sword

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>the trident
That's even another contradiction with ALLTP. In ALTTP Ganondorf became blue Ganon after defeat his enemies and obtain the complete Triforce, meanwhile in FSA they state this new Ganondorf (which again, is confirmed to be different from OoT Ganondorf because this one is no king) transformed into blue Ganon thanks to the dark powers of the trident.

And the ALTTP-FS tie can't be considered canon when it's so random, you literally can make your four Links use the Master Sword even when Link needs the Four Sword to divide himself, you just randomly pick in a menu the Master Sword and Link automatically has the legendary Master Sword without trials, stones, pendants, etc, he just magically has it, it's as canon as BotW Link getting WW Link's shirt from a magic chest summoned by the Sheikah Slate

god I hate skyward sword

It's not canon because the plan was scrapped in favor of HH's 3 timelines, but at the time of development, the plan was to tie LttP and FS together

Hyrule Encyclopedia was written by actual fanfic writers and directly contradict what was shown in the game because Skull Kid existed in Termina WITHOUT THE MASK. The same dumbass book called the Great Sea 'illusionary' and said that Kokiri were Hylians left in the forest and affected by the Deku Tree's magic to turn them into forest srites, which makes one wonder why the fuck Link was an outcast if forest magic can make them into one of them.

I just checked and you are right about the first part, the tower was there loooong before Link and Tetra arrived, but the rest is wrong, by the time Tetra and Link arrived Malladus was already sealed (and Tetra never interacted with Malladus, that was ST Zelda). You are still right about the tower but like I said BotW happens thousands years after any other Zelda game, the land of the spirits of good could still be part of BotW's Hyrule and the tower not being present would just mean the tower didn't last these thousands and thousands and thousands years.
Not like this matter since nothing indicates this land is in BotW but hey, it could be, who knows

>I hate SS
I don't know, I think Ganondorf's death in WW is even more amazing and has even more significance after SS because he finally freed himself from Demise's strings and died as his own person with his own beliefs, he was a puppet before but in his last moment he was free, like a big "fuck you, I'm not resurrecting and fighting these two again" to Demise

>I think Ganondorf's death in WW is even more amazing and has even more significance after SS because he finally freed himself from Demise's strings and died as his own person with his own beliefs, he was a puppet before but in his last moment he was free, like a big "fuck you, I'm not resurrecting and fighting these two again" to Demise

That's not what that fight was about though. It's about Link and Tetra liberating themselves from him and his obsession with Hyrule. It's a personal triumph. Tying it to some grand curse and cycle of reincarnation completely ruins it.

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>It's about Link and Tetra liberating themselves from him and his obsession with Hyrule
That's the thing, in this battle GANONDORF wins too, because he liberates himself from Demise's faggotry. Link and Zelda say fuck you to Ganondorf, and Ganondorf says fuck you to Demise and refuses to keep participating in this reincarnation game, the next time Demise wants to attack Hylia's kingdom he will need someone else because Ganondorf stopped being his puppet.
The three characters of the final fight won freedom after left something behind, one lefts his companion sword behind, other left her inherited kingdom behind, and the last one left his hate behind, it's pure kino

Too bad Link's achievement aren't that great considering he could only defeat ganondorf with the triforce's wish.
If it wasn't for that, ganondorf could easily beat link and tetra just like he always does in WW.
The true MVP was the Lion King, if it wasn't for him, Adult Timelien would be another Downfall timeline.

The cycles existed already. They just weren't named concepts until SS and HH.

There's a difference between a theme and a named entity within the world.

Ganondorf completely loses because Hyrule is destroyed and that's the only thing in the world that ever meant anything to him. He's attacking Link and Tetra out of spite with a "If I'm going down I'm taking you with me" mentality.

Tetra says it before the fight. From her and Link's perspective it's just about being able to go home and make the most of their lives without Hyrule

Ocarina of Time Link couldn't defeat Ganondorf while he was still a child either. That's why he was sealed away for 7 years.

It wasn't set in stone the way it was in Skyward Sword. Wind Waker was still able to get creative with the same concept.

>he could only defeat ganondorf with the triforce's wish
Link or the King didn't wish for Ganondorf to be defeated. The King wished for Hyrule to be flooded completely and to end the chase for its old glory. After that Ganondorf was beaten in a fair fight with Link and Terra.

>2 on 1
>Fair fight
I've always wanted a Zelda game to have Ganon looking for a partner to fight Link and Zelda

>Ganondorf completely loses
He won freedom, he was released from Demise's curse, he will never go back just to get his ass kicked by Link and Zelda again, he will never go insane consumed by his hate ala BotW Ganon, he will never follow Demise's steps again because he gained freedom. Sure, he's not aware of this, but that doesn't matter, what it matters is that SS stablished Ganondorf was born out of Demise's hatred and WW-Ganondorf still managed overpower the curse and defeat Demise in that sense, and that's something that makes WW-Ganondorf even more based,

He literally "gave them a future", that almost implies Link and Tetra are immortal and will achieve whatever that future is.
WW Ganondorf could literally not win after that wish.
But in OoT is different, Link was a literal child, he needed to be stronger to beat him, Toonlink wasn't that much of a child compared to Young Link.

Better than most final fights where Zelda prays to the Gods and they deign to lend them Light Arrows or sealing power or whatever.

All he had to do was WAIT two minutes before complete the Triforce. Just kill the children using the fragment of the Triforce that makes you super strong and literally immortal and once they are dead you extract your fragment, put it with the other two and then you asks the whole Triforce for whatever you want, that would have been the proper way to behave

To each his own but that interpretation completely ruins the fight for me

>He literally "gave them a future", that almost implies Link and Tetra are immortal and will achieve whatever that future is.
WW Ganondorf could literally not win after that wish.
But that's part of the theme of the fight. In Ganondorf's eyes, that wish is self contradictory because there is no future in a world without Hyrule and by killing Link and Tetra he was going to prove it.

>But in OoT is different, Link was a literal child, he needed to be stronger to beat him, Toonlink wasn't that much of a child compared to Young Link.

Young Link is 9
Adult Link is 16
Toon Link is exactly 12.

He's closer to Young than Adult.

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He outright states he had no interest in killing Link before the King fucked him over

Oh, don't get me wrong. WW is the best final fight in the series by a mile. I was just throwing out an idea I'd like the series to try. If Nintendo absolutely insists that Ganon remain a generic big bad then give him a partner with a real story and connection to Link/Zelda

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Now that I think about it, the only Links to ever defeat Ganon/dorf on their own are the adults, right? OoT young Link never beat Ganon, TLoZ young Link needed the Triforce of Wisdom, ALBW Link the Triforce of Courage, WW Link had Zelda's help (and Ganondorf was still stronger until he lost his Triforce) and FSA Link had his fire power multiplied 4 times thanks to the Four Sword

We'll just have to see where the BotW sequel takes it.

That's just dumb

It's arrogant. Ganondorf doesn't fully respect Link and Tetra because they're not the hero and princess that he remembers. It's a boomer/zoomer conflict

The difference between WW Ganondorf and every other Ganon/dorf is that he achieved his goals, that is, conquering Hyrule, too bad that victory didn't last too long cause the goddess were a little bitches.

But he didn't and that was his biggest mistake, WW Ganondorf was too soft, didn't even kill link and tetra when he had the chance but to be honest they couldn't do shit against ganondorf, he was too good, that was until the king made his wish of course.

9 to 12 is a pretty big fucking difference, you are almost a teen at that age.
Even so, Toonlink pre-wish JOBBED pretty hard, lost again ganondorf 2 times without even scratching him.
But you are right, Ganondorf refused to leave his dream of seeing his land again but it was too late by that.

Yes, Link always needed help to beat Ganon, but Toonlink had it best, he couldn't lose against ganondorf because of the King's Wish.

Not him but BotW happens in an era and timeline in which Ganondorf is literally too angry to die, all he wants is the destruction of the goddess and everything she ever loved, even Hyrule, there's no way he's remotely close to his WW-self, he will just be evil. Probably amazingly evil, but still just an evil guy

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>9 to 12 is a pretty big fucking difference, you are almost a teen at that age.
>Even so, Toonlink pre-wish JOBBED pretty hard, lost again ganondorf 2 times without even scratching him.

He's still a 12 year old kid against a centuries old immortal wizard.

There's a reason the Master Sword decided that OoT Link needed to be 16, not 12.

>Yes, Link always needed help to beat Ganon, but Toonlink had it best, he couldn't lose against ganondorf because of the King's Wish.

I still think that the King was speaking in metaphors with that part of the wish, simply speaking of how he saw that Hyrule had become a burden to the world at large

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The game ends when the mask collector disappears.

Nothing, because termina was created by the mask. It's not real, like the island in Link's awakening.

King's Wish was like two in one, Flood Hyrule and give hope and future.

>mass reply for 2 sentences
cringe

I'm not sure you're allowed to do a 2-in-1. I think shit like hope and a future were vague metaphors and that's why Ganondorf was laughing at them

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>There's a reason the Master Sword decided that OoT Link needed to be 16, not 12
I think that's either Link taking extra time to wake up after reach proper age or Rauru deciding Link's time to wake up on his own (since in Hyrule you are officially an adult at your 16/17). I mean, if a 12yo Link wasn't strong enough for the Master Sword they would just sleep everytime they try to get it, but no, several 12yo Link tried and managed to control the sword without weird comas, meaning 12yo is enough for the sword. Even BotW Link is said to have been using the Master Sword since he was 12/13 in BotW's art and story book

i mean, we don't know the rules of the triforce, but the triforce didn't start to shine until the king said his full sentence.

He needed to be 16 to be able to fulfuill his role as the Hero of Time. WW/BotW Link may have been strong enough to use the sword at 12 but they were not strong enough to beat Ganon. Two different things

He has to finish speaking but I treat his wish as being for the flooding of Hyrule with a fruity speech attached to it. He might not have considered that Ganondorf would use his final few moments to kill the kids instead of him.

But other games prove 12yo Link is strong enough to beat Ganon if it has one fragment of the Triforce and OoT Link HAD one, he should have been able to beat Ganon at his 12. In fact ALBW Link defeated the fusion of Ganon, reincarnation of the hate of the demon king Demise, Yuga (Ganon's counterpart and probably the reincarnation of the hate of the Demise of that world) and Hilda (Zelda's counterpart, reincarnation of the goddess of time of that world) who had not one but TWO pieces of the Triforce.
The hero of time had no excuse, he should have been able to beat Ganondorf ass after only 3 years of sleep

>But other games prove 12yo Link is strong enough to beat Ganon if it has one fragment of the Triforce

Which ones? The LttP games have Link at 14-15.

Ok, just transcribed this.
"Gods of the triforce, hear that which i desire!
Hope! I desire hope for these children! Give them future!
Wash away this ancient land of hyrule
Let a ray of hope shine on the future of the world!!!"
Triforce starts to shine
"Let our destinies finally be fulfilled...
Ganondorf! May you drown with Hyrule!!!"
Ganondorf starts to laugh
"This is foolishness...
Very well, then..
Allow me to show you...
Your future...
Yes... Allow me to show you...
Just what hope you have...
... See how much your precious Triforce is worth!"

The true wish of the king was to give hope to the children, ganondorf after this, he already knew he was done and just was struggling to fight against the triforce.

>Hope! I desire hope for these children! Give them future!
Wash away this ancient land of hyrule
See, based on this, I interpret him to be saying that washing away Hyrule is his way of giving them hope
>Ganondorf! May you drown with Hyrule!!!"
See, he's not expecting Link and Tetra to kill him. He's expecting him to drown with the flood. Ganondorf sees the opening to kill Link and Tetra with his final few minutes

>The true wish of the king was to give hope to the children, ganondorf after this, he already knew he was done and just was struggling to fight against the triforce.
No, he wanted to prove that any idea the King had of hope beyond Hyrule was full of shit. Recall his speech before the Puppet Ganon fight. He argues that by flooding Hyrule the Gds had actually screwed over the people who lived there. He was trying to kill Link and Tetra as his way of proving this notion

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You are right, look at all the things MM Link did.

ALTTP manual says Zelda is 16 so that Link probably was 16 too, not 14/15, but I'm not talking about these ones, I'm talking about ALBW Link like I said in my previous post.

>inb4 ALBW Link is as old as ALTTP
I thought the same until they released his second adventure and he was a toon Link like WW Link, making him only 12yo.
If this 12yo Link can just grab the Triforce of Courage and the Master Sword and beat a Ganon-not!Ganon-not!Zelda fusion that has the Triforces of Power and Wisdom the hero of time should have been able to wake up as a 12yo and use his Master Sword and Triforce of Courage to beat a Ganon that only had the Triforce of Power.
Hell in fact 9yo Link managed to beat Ganon even without the Master Sword just because he had the Triforce of Wisdom in the very first game of the franchise

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>I thought the same until they released his second adventure and he was a toon Link like WW Link, making him only 12yo.
That's not something that had thought up when making the game. I think it's one oif the dumbest things they;ve ever done

The triforce wish is absolute, doesn't matter how things happened, they happened BECAUSE the triforce wish was on effect.
Everything else is irrelevant, the king wish is pretty self explanatory, he describes what he wants, he's not having a philosophical battle with the triforce, he's being literal.
We can even see this effect on future games, Spirits Tracks is set on new lands far away from Hyrule, that was what the king wanted.

"... See how much your precious Triforce is worth!"
By this phrase alone, Ganondorf knows he's fighting against the triforce, that's why he decides to fight the "children".

>"... See how much your precious Triforce is worth!"
I think he;s making a stronger statement on his view of the world. He's so certain that there's no notion of hope in a world without Hyrule that not even the Triforce can change that

I mean, it could be interpreted many ways.
In my opinion, when i saw ganondorf laugh i felt kinda sad, the laugh felt ironic more than anything, and i think he deciding to battle link was more of a struggle and denial.

It was genuine laughter. The King's wish went so completely against his view of the world and came from someone who once ruled over the land he was seeking so fervently. It was honestly hilarious to him

it couldn't be genuine laughter, the moment and the situation was not a moment to "laugh" about.
All the efforts he had were crushed in that instant, you can even see ganondorf extending his arm in disbelief in the cutscene.
He knows more than ANYONE the true power of the triforce.
I also think the wish was hilarious to him, but the laugh was more to himself.

>Now that I think about it, the only Links to ever defeat Ganon/dorf on their own are the adults, right?
Adult Link in OoT needed the power of seven sages to stand up to Ganondorf while TP Link had help from both Midna and Zelda and he doesn't even fully kill Ganondorf because Zant technically delivered the final blow. BoTW Link is arguably the only one that can possibly kill Ganon without any help.

It's a reflection of his warped psyche. It was truly funny to him. It was the dumbest thing he's ever heard anyone say, let alone wish on the Triforce

ALTTP Link killed Ganon on his own, if you count the Silver Arrows as 'on his own'.

I would. It's just a weapon

In that case, he beat Ganon. And not just normal Ganon, but a Ganon in control of the whole Triforce.

Very true because the maidens were only necessary to gain access to the castle, not combat Ganon.

Yes, LttP is the most powerful Link. Fierce Deity cucks can go fuck themselves

well, i agree with you but i don't think he laughed just because of that, it was multiple reasons.

Let me tell you about cycles! Seriously Skyward Sword caused more problems then answered anything.

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When you contrast his speech during the Puppet Ganon fight to the King's it makes perfect sense. The two ideas are at odds

it got attacked by isis

to be fair, ganondorf was pretty much immortal after OoT, he's THE GANON.

WW Ganondorf is ganon at his peak when considering personality, design, motives, etc.
I like when the villain is good and not just a generic villain, just like nintendo did with bowser.

You realize pretty much everything in Hyrule Historia has been pretty much wrong and contradicted by Nintendo themselves right? I distinctly remember a quote by one of the main Zelda guys saying Termina is real and not a parallel world or illusion.

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>I distinctly remember a quote by one of the main Zelda guys saying Termina is real and not a parallel world or illusion.
That's not from HH. That's from a new book called Hyrule encyclopedia

I'm really hoping they do something worthwhile with him in BOTW2

>there's a new one
Link to a pirated copy? Need to see this joke shit.

Is it like that Historia was pretty spot on but Encyclopedia is shit and wrong?

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e-hentai.org/g/1459067/26848a63c3/
To my knowledge, this one had less involvement from Nintendo than HH did.

They're both nonsense

Historia was pretty spot on. Timeline was kinda controversial, but it was written by Aonuma and Miyamoto and kept things consistent.
Encyclopedia was written by people with no real association to Nintendo other than fansites, and has so many errors that the Zeldawiki site has started listing them. It said Kafei got turned into a Skull Kid at one point for fuck's sake.

I hope so, the wall drawings and the presentation of ganon (or what i assume is ganon) implies he will not be just another generic villain.

It's the kind of laugh you'd get out of a megalomaniac that has been teetering on the razor's edge of insanity for a long time, just as they snap and go fully mental. The laugh is Ganondorf losing his composure, along what little grip on logic and reason he still had left. It's a hollow laugh he uses to laugh away the fact that he is undoubtedly screwed; a lie to himself, more than anything.

He knows he screwed, but he also thinks the King screwed himself just as hard. The King wished for hope in a world without Hyrule but Ganondorf sees the two as one and the same. The rest of the world is a barren hellhole just like his old desert. He uses the Great Sea as evidence of this.

In his eyes, he's doomed Link and Tetra to a life of aimlessly wandering a lifeless ocean and passed it off as hope. That's funny to him

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God, just imagine this scene without the laugh.
A little thing as a laughter conveys so many emotions in different situations.

Yeah, the laugh brings the entire story together and gives the final fight its deeper meaning

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What bad things did WW Ganondorf do besides kidnaping kids?

Punching kids

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>Is it like that Historia was pretty spot on but Encyclopedia is shit and wrong?
It's exactly like that. HH had direct involvement from Nintendo and even listed Aonuma as its chief editor, HE was written by some faggots from a Japanese fan magazine.

to be honest, you too will hit a descendant of the guy who trapped you thousands of year in a prison, no matter the age.

>in a prison
For murdering the King and turning Hyrule into his personal dystopia

Well, yeah, but consdering what he had done previously, the prison did really help cause punching a kid is nothing compared to that.

The kid just wanted his sister back that he kidnapped for no reason

Well, ganondorf did have a pretty good reason, he wanted Zelda. Still, his methods of finding her were primitive.

He could have just realized that Aryll wasn't Zelda and Link have her instead of throwing them out to the ocean

not that ganondorf is a genius, his biggest achievement is waiting for a door to open. lol

Zelda Wiki is the Irate Gamer to Zeldapedia's AVGN.

Would it have? The ghost wolf mentor is an ancedtor of Link and passes on knowledge from his time. Some of his songs, like the Song of Healing, are FROM Majoras Mask. That'd imply that in Twilight Princess timeline, Majoras Mask occurred.

Kek, imagine fighting over which Zelda fan wiki is better

man, imagine if MM didn't exist, everyone would hate WW more. And that MM turned to be a fucking great game even though OoT set the bar too high.

If you follow Hyrule Encyclopedia then Termina never existed in the first place. If you follow common fucking sense, then it likely exists in all timelines as it's simply a parallel dimension with its own long history and lore.

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>man, imagine if MM didn't exist, everyone would hate WW more.
t. Zoomer
MM was hated at release for going to back to Kid Link. WW made that annoyance even worse

So why is this an issue?

I don't understand why the zelda fanbase is so desperate for their series to be seen as adult.

It was at a time when video games were transitioning from a childish to an adult hobby and Nintendo was seen as lagging behind in that area.

I'm just waiting for that to be another bait and switch like them teasing a playable Zelda

You tell me, wikifag.

I really don't know. Why is one better than the other?

I agree with you. Only reason you should use the wikis is for concrete based information such as bugs, item locations and cut features. Lore is derived from there game itself.

Stfu
That's not true.

AGree with what? I'm confused

Imagine actually believing this.