Is this worth the wait Yea Forums? Or are there other preferred manufacturers?

Even games that don't technically "require" one are made better by running in 1440p at 120fps.

Why are they taking so long

>Blind fanboyism
>Based
pick one

>Bought 2070 5 days ago for $480
Already thinking of returning it. Spent 2 hours going through lists of games and shit to see if there was anything worth redownloading and there isn't. Plus everything coming out in the next couple of months is all multi-plat anyway.

I'm new to PC gaming. My gf got me a pre-built for my birthday. I have a 2070RTX I7 9700k 16gb DDR4. Weren't graphics cards a lot cheaper before? I saw the Newest Nvidia one was like 1100$ and that's ridiculous. Also what are the best fans? I have 3 already installed and liquid cooling but I'm afraid of overheating nonetheless.

They're too busy selling ASIC Miners to buttcoin cucks
If you wanna get your hopes up
overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-pulse-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-38x-sp.html
The >pulse model is up for pre-order in the UK so at least they have something before September though everyone should try and get the Nitro+ models

Wait for 5800.

>2060 Super costs same as 5700XT
Have you seen the prices on the custom 5700XTs? They are at the same price range as the RTX 2070 Super.

Why are you trying to spread misinformation you nvidia shill?

For me, it's Ampere.

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the custom models are coming out in less than 1 week, just wait.

regular 2070 is actually slower and the 2070s is $100 and it's barely faster than a 5700xt

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That's just one game

If you care about emulation and running older games don't buy AMD. Their OpenGL support is hot garbage and it extends to emulating as well. The other problem with this series is it's the Polaris replacement with a premium price and is a stop gap at best, there is no reason for them to have been priced that way as mid range cards. These cards are going to be in replacement territory inside a year with the release of PS5 and PC enthusiast demanding better hardware and specs over what's going to go in one of the consoles. Add to it the fact that in order to even OC these cards now you have to fuck with the power play settings and are otherwise clock locked.

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If you're looking for that cinematic 24fps experience, I have a 560ti I can sell your for cheap.

>Add to it the fact that in order to even OC these cards now you have to fuck with the power play settings and are otherwise clock locked.
u wot?

>CEMU has Vulkan
>Yuzu has Vulkan
>RPCS3 has Vulkan
>Dolphin has Vulkan
The only real issue is PCSX2

why would I ever buy AMD when I can buy Nvidia with better performance with a bit more price.

AMD is only for CPU

The bios in the 5700 has to be modded to overclock. Don't count on the others being user friendly either.

>Muh console with their current gen budget laptop cpu and gpu will render your $500 GPU barely adequate within a year.
2020 is going to be entertaining, no matter the actual outcome.

Vulkan is hot garbage and I have had an AMD card long enough to understand what a bunch of assholes their developers are and how fucking slow they are when it comes to implementing fixes. If Nvidia can release a powerful card without the RTX meme it's the next one going in my rig.

I've heard that other brands have better GPU performance, but I've got a really high-end AMD cpu. Should I switch to using an Nvidea graphics card or does it not really matter as long as I can just run the games?

PS5 and Xbox are going to have cut down 5700's so they will have at least weak parity with PC hardware which is completely unacceptable from a PC enthusiast standpoint. Both companies are sand bagging and playing games with margins and fucking their consumers raw.

vega56 is a fantastic gpu and dirt cheap now
1070ti used is also cheap
5700s are fine
rtx series is a fucking joke and will be thrown under the bus next year because its a new gpu core layout

If you have 3 fans and liquid cooling you're fine.

>Vulkan is hot garbage

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I have no idea wether to buy an amd cpu or intel cpu for my new pc. Certainly don't want to deal with bios updates causing problems and motherboard on board fans overheating and unnecessarily running with ryzen. /pcbg/ certainly isn't helping with their amd shilling.

oh god why does it look so ugly when their rx500s were the best looking cards around

I always go for Amd because of Freesync

Go read their forums and see how many problems people have and what the responses are. For emulation and playing older games AMD is a bad choice period.

>rtx series is a fucking joke and will be thrown under the bus next year because its a new gpu core layout
Unlikely. Ray tracing is the next step in vidya grafix but everyone who bought into this gen paid the early adopter tax as usual with new tech.

You do not necessarily need an AMD GPU paired with an AMD CPU if that's what you're asking.

This unironically
inb4 >FreeSync works on Nvidia cards now
Not all of them retards

What temp should I start to be worried? I downloaded speccy and it's in the orange when I check after an hour or so playing a game.

>BIOS updates causing problems
Like...? Check your motherboard vendor's latest BIOS.
>motherboard on board fans overheating
Get an X470 or B450 board.

I run Persona 5 with a 60FPS patch on RPCS3 with Vulkan. If I turn on OpenGL, the game turns into a slideshow with pop-in everywhere. I have a 1070.

Meaningful ray tracing will happen with the console gen after ps5 at the earliest. If it's not going to linger in limbo like VR or wither 3D television which might happen just as well.

970 master card. Runs anything on 1080p60fps with no problem.

>Puddle reflections and water in minecraft is the next step in graphics!

Just fuck off and die please. It's half a decade away from being a mature tech if it's actually pursued for that long before they next meme comes along and people who want serious performance do not want to pay the meme tax for cores they will never use.

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>>CEMU has Vulkan
>>Yuzu has Vulkan
Neither of them yet actually have vulkan.
Even though Cemu already fucking should have by now.

no

>gf got me a $1700+ rig
Goddamn, either she comes from money or you have a 9'' cock or something.
Anyway as long as your temps stay below 80C you're fine. Nothing terrible is gonna happen just above that either but the wear will be more intense.

>no
yes

>It's half a decade away from being a mature tech
Only if the industry keeps pushing towards it which won't happen without stuff like RTX.

youtube.com/watch?v=J6v7KX34tZk
I mean if you don't count beta builds then yeah

no

>in the orange
Take a screencap and show us, underage. 70C and under is standard under load.

Well, yeah, I don't. You can't even pirate the build because of some retarded fucking DRM. The absolute state.

They wont keep pushing towards it because the duopoly is going to get disrupted by Intel looking to snatch up the actual mid range market with mid range prices again and best bet is on them going for raw performance per dollar instead of dicking around with RTX. Given they are losing ground in CPU's it would also be beneficial for them to throw their weight around and actually pay people to work on the drivers and compatibility unlike AMD.

>What is playing with settings
There's literally nothing in his post that indicates that he mentioned playing MAX SETTINGS 1080p 60fps on every single game even ones released today.
You can even play most of the top VR games on steam with the 970, the ones that are unity based though. Not shit like Skyrim/Fallout VR, that's a hell fucking no to that.

>best bet is on them going for raw performance per dollar instead of dicking around with RTX
I disagree. AMD maybe but nVidia won't abandon the investment that easily.

Well 1400, got her a gaming laptop last for around the same price. I researched it and the motherboard isn't the best quality, neither is the power supply or ram sticks. Gonna upgrade when I get the money.
Naw a five or sixer lol.

Yeah let me warm it up first

i got an rtx2060 for $300 about 4 months ago and it's slightly disappointing for 1080p
like it does run everything at 1080/60fps, but on the newest games there's usually something i have to end up turning off or down,and the memory use usually end up close to 5.5gb so that's too close to the 6gb cap

according to the 5700 benchmarks it's certainly better than a 2060, but how much? no fucking idea. Seems to also be better than the 2070 for a lower price so there you go
memetracing was a meme and nvidia eye candy is not worth it in my opinion

if the 5700 comes bundled with a bunch of good games like re2re and dmcV at the start of this year, then i'd say it's a no brainer

AMD cheaped out and had Navi GPUs bundled with 3 months of Xbox Game Pass instead now instead of actual titles.

>buying AMD
lmao

raytracing is not a new technology. hardware just isn't powerful enough to do it in real time yet. when hardware gets powerful enough to do it then there's really no reason not to.

Do people not know what benchmarks are? Is googling a benchmark really so difficult that we need these questions?

He's just baiting a response for a reason for someone to post that same Forza Horizon 4 benchmark for 5700/XT again.

I'll do it
>OH NO NO NO NO NO
>WHAT'S WRONG NVIDIOTS, JEALOUS?
>HAHAHAHAHA
There, it's out of the way now.

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And that's my biggest problem with it. Forced adoption of inferior hardware with a massive post crypto premium slapped on it. It's insulting and while I understand that RTX seems great on the surface with not having to pre bake shit I am loath to think of what it means when developers can be even lazier than they are already. It does nothing but piss me off when people tout some puddle reflection that's picture perfect when the reality is the actual conditions to ever see that reflection push it out of the realm of realism that people claim it's all about. I'm too focused on objectives to care or notice it and I would argue most people are too. I don't care about some smeared reflection on a gun barrel or painting up ancient games that a 70 year old hooker either. Instead of consumers being annoyed by it it's turned into it's own monster because people see RTX as a status symbol like an Iphone now. Doesn't matter if it's an inferior product that's overpriced it's all about the brand and prestige these people feel in burning their money. I have the disposable income but I didn't get to that place by throwing money at stupid shit.

>Doesn't matter if it's an inferior product that's overpriced
It's not an inferior product though, it's just overpriced.

Forced adoption of what amounts to a gimmick at the moment makes it inferior. I would buy a 2080 right now if there was a discrete model without the RTX cores.

>still using a R9 280X
>only start playing some demanding shit at 900p and med/low settins in 2019
>Control min requirements it's a 280X
Dudes, this fucking card is pure magic.
To be fair, the only problem is that is getting very loud due to almost 100% usage, but still, a god sent.

but not the pulse

red devil also acceptable

>red devil

Loud, heavy POS. Don't listen to this user.

wait for the custom cooled cards, then yes it will be worth it over the 2060 and 2060 super even at 400$ price range. if you're an AMD shill or super impatient you can go with this card but it's hot as fuck. just wait like two or three weeks

I got REMake 2 and The Division 2 with my rx 570, not exactly a bargain either.

What's wrong with pulse?

Fucking peasant
Have you even played a game 144hz? Even shit a game is enjoyable at that framerate

What's the point if all devs can't optimize for shit and not even brute forcing their games can get you 60 fps at max

Why are the heatsinks on these cards so huge? Wasn't being 7nm suppose to benefit in using less power, more energy efficient, and I'm guessing, smaller cards?

I don't even see 2080's with shrouds that big. The 2060 is a fairly small card too which is what it's competing with.

For a card that's 7nm and has less power, less features than Nvidia, they are massive. Other than their upscaling software, I can't see why anyone would buy these unless I'm ignorant to other than being $50 cheap.

>buying low test cards

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>and I'm guessing, smaller cards?
No?
Shrinking node size has nothing to do with die size.
Navi is actually a bigger die than Polaris cards, 255mm2 vs 232mm2 for 500 series chip.

Why don't you guys just get a 2070s? Just save up for like an extra month and get a card that wont be low-mid range in a year

>2070s?
>paying 100 bucks more for 2% more performance compared to a 5700XT

Nvidia hasn't put out a high-end consumer card since the 600 series. The 2070 and 2080 use their mid-range architecture, you can tell by the chip bandwidth.

It still strongly outperforms every other midrange card at a way low pricepoint than what you need to beat it (and dunks on the OG 2070 at the same pricepoint)
>2%
Okay, friendo, have fun in Forza I guess

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$500 is not a "way low price-point"
Nvidia selling their mid-range cards for enthusiast prices is why I dislike them so much in the first place.

>1080ti just died
>No decent replacements in the current marker

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>post yfw people actually buy AMD GPUs

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I bought a 2070 a few months ago for my first pc only for them to come out with the 2070 super so I feel pretty asspained

What if it was the same price?

what's the best cost/benefit 1080p/1440p card right now?

Wouldn't bother with it, I should have clarified and said without the post crypto insanity in the price point or the RTX tax. The only real reason I would want a new card is to push 1440 more easily but most of the stuff I play isn't that demanding anyway. Wouldn't touch VR even if someone gave me a headset for free either.

570

Mean to say "way lower" as you need to go up to 700+ for something noticeably better. Looking into it a bit more though and the 5700 xt does seem like a stronger alternative than it first appeared. -15 to +3ish percent difference at 4/5ths the price. I don't trust the fan though so maybe wait for aftermarket cooling

ray tracing doesnt require RTX, its done mostly on the gpu with brute force

>I don't trust the fan though so maybe wait for aftermarket cooling
Obviously.
AMD always runs hot and you generally have to wait for a Sapphire Nitro+ model for real cooling, or else a custom watercooling block.

Hey they turned their CPU's around, give them a chance.
That's true suffering, user

RTX runs real-time raytracing at like 40fps at best unless you're playing truly ancient games like that recent Quake demo.
Trying to run raytracing on a non-RTX card is an exercise in futility.

I wonder if Nvidia is going to light a fire under AAA studio asses any time soon because there hasn't been a killer game pushing hardware sales in fucking YEARS. My card is old but AAA games are so fucking shit now that I have no desire to play them and thus no need to upgrade.

lmao and jej, graphics-whoring isn't going to make AAA games any better.

because non-rtx cards dont compare to the brute force of a 2080ti

>Ray tracing is the next step in vidya grafix
yeah in literally a decade at best

Probably won't happen until they have to step up across all markets, so when new consoles come out. They're even claiming to have some kind of raytracing aren't they?

>r9 3900 STILL hasn't restocked for over a month now
AAAHHHHHH WHY I HAVE 600 BUCKS READY FOR IT AND IT AND A GRAPHICS CARD IS ALL THAT I NEED TO FULLY ASSEMBLE MY NEW PC IT'S NOT FAIR

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Software lags 4-6 years behind hardware. The current hardware needs 4-5 more years to even be in a usable state. The only reason it got pushed in the first place was slumping sales when cards were rapidly getting to the point where 4K 60 FPS was getting cheaper and adoption was slowing. Now the games been switched up again and they are trying to paint RTX as a premium incentive to adopt vaporware. This is where we currently are.

just get intel or a 3600..

>r9 3900
Not a real thing you retarded nigger, did you just combine the Ryzen naming scheme with an old AMD video card line naming scheme

ebay is literally flooded with them for $600 user, theyre $500 from newegg but like you said, out of stock. you already factored in the $100 e-scalper premium, whats the big deal?

its literally a R(yzen)9 3900X

Damn there really are a fuck load of Yea Forums memes in the wild. The rest of the site needs to step the fuck up

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I don't like Ebay and never set up an account. Guess I might break in about a week if this keeps up though

Current Ryzen is in its third generation, known as Zen 2 but usually as Ryzen 3000. Where did you get a 9th Gen Ryzen, time traveler?

>not a real thing
who's the retarded nigger again?
>BBBBBUT THERES AN X YOU FORGOT
shut up braindead white boy, go shoot up another school / beat it to sister (or dog) porn

He's obviously talking about the ryzen 9 3900, don't get your panties in a twist

70% of all posts with Wyatt, Hogan or Undercarder are (me)

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finna

>I don't like Ebay
u dont like deals user? i buy MTG lots for my channel every week and its usually always a profit. not to mention i buy fuckton of used older processors and out of triple digit purchases, ive had like 3 fail on me and they all refunded me my money except the one seller because it was "as is, untested" aka broken. i dont buy those lots anymore.

its called a naming scheme, like i3 i5 i7 i9

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>Built to perform
>Designed to win
Well, which is it, AMD???

Dedicated ray-tracing hardware is not "brute force"

It's not even ray tracing hardware. It's "turn noise into lightmap" hardware. The 1080 is slower at raytracing because they have to render more samples because the current implementation of the raytracing DX libraries don't have a software version of RTX built in. And the main demos of raytracing are intended to sell RTX.