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Didn't they stopped making single player campaigns?
I hope it's not as clean cut as MW2 where of course im not going to root for the mass shooter
>Looks like the new CoD might actually be good
Half the campaign is going to be some pozzed shit about white helmets and some little girl. So no, not that part anyway.
I'm completely unironically hoping this game turns out good.
>we are not gonna tell who's right or wrong, it's just a coincidence that the campaign will be told from one perspective
Sure
>oneangrygamer
fuck off, shill
>not shitting on trump is somehow an indication itll be good
You guys have really fucking low standards
because OP is a newfag
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To be fair killzone does that and its pretty clear the side you actually play as are the aggressors. The helghast aren't innocent but they aren't pure evil either, most of the war is your fault.
How much does Billy D pay to advertise on this site?
word has it he sends the janitorial staff a one-pound packet of chicken nuggers every new year's
Spineless alt-right pandering. MW won't getting my money.
Retard journalists and leftists thinks "politics" in games just means fuck Drumpf and don't realize it actually means the stuff you see in MGS which makes you sympathize with all extremes and subvert expectations.
I hope they use the little girl to show how people become terrorists since we know that both her parents were killed by russian forces she might reenact no russian when she grows up
(OP)
Spineful not-woke pandering. MW will be getting my money.
>oneshillfaggot
yikes and cringe.
I can't imagine anything less interesting than a game that presses culturally relevant, in-the-moment buttons for attention and then doesn't have the spine to actually pick a side or make a point.
Daily reminder just like with EA, Activision made a WW2 game recently that featured playable black woman characters. Unlike EA, they just let that be quiet feature in the background for whoever wanted it and focused on the gameplay and not the wokeness. One did ok one did not do as ok.
>All those comments in his article saying centrist should be shot and killed like the left
Are these people genuinely retarded and not know what centrism is?
Maybe because it's a video game, not a propaganda piece
>www.oneangrygamer.net
end self
The point is no one wants this shit, people want Price's team and US Army stuff.
>"Muh both sides"
They know what centrists are they just don't like anyone that doesn't completely agree with them
Stop spamming the same reply tranny we heard you the first time, it's the only viable source for gaming news
>killzone 2 ends with a somber as fuck moment where the allies actions fuck things up even worse and causes the shitshow of killzone 3 where ISA soldiers get trapped on helghan
>killzone shadowfall shows the negative ramifications of the ISA winning in the end and displacing helghan people but nothing interesting comes out of it and the game is kinda weak, especially it being mostly espionage and shit stealth instead of open warfare events
>guerilla studios goes and makes le open world game instead of more killzone
it would be the only console shooter I'd want to play anymore and there's no way they'd make it interesting anymore after horizon succeeded
>www.oneangrygamer.net
Fuck off /pol/
>www.oneangrygamer.net
You have to go back
>oneseethingnigger
at least archive that shit
>Right or wrong
So left is the wrong side cant fool me CoD devs.
I wish more games were political. Politics is interesting and different ideas clashing with one another is interesting but everybody thinks politics = left-wing political correctness for some reason
actual political intrigue requires some research and one very basic understanding that everyone believes they are the good guy and you can't just make all your villains mustache twirling nazis to achieve this
me in the middle
Pretty sure the average CoD player doesn't have enough brain cells for anything more meaningful than 'Press F to pay respect'
>for some reason
CoD has always had a good PR campaign. They also know when to shut the fuck up when they get negative feedback from trailers and the like.
ok tranny
centrist are literally leftist. They believe in women's rights, trans pride is okay and refugees are welcome. Centrist re virtue signaling cucks.
The campaign in CoD is like the kid's menu at Hooters, nobody actually uses it but it's still there.
Bruh MGS is pretty explicitly against war and imperialism
Outer Worlds was suppose to be doing the same shit but that doesn't change the fact everyone's a mutt and ugly.
most people still don't get that "no Russian" meant "DON'T SPEAK RUSSIAN WE ARE DOING A FALSE FLAG ATTACK AND DO NOT WANT IT TIED TO ANYTHING RUSSIAN"
you call yourself a game journalist and what to be taken serious
lmao no xd
So what's the lesson here? Gamers have no principles? It doesn't matter whether you have black women in your game?
me on the right fuck niggers
>Having a point = propaganda
>I only consume media that doesn't say anything and isn't about anything
Fuck you.
I wonder how they're going to avoid politics in a game that's apparently going to be about the brutality of war
lmao
LITERALLY "if you're not a reactionary you're a leftist radical Antifa Marxist"
How is saying "both things a shit" being neutral?
>Deus Ex isn't about contemporary politics
Yeah okay fake gamer boy, come back when you actually played it instead of listing meme games from Yea Forums-approved lists
Damn, just like outer worlds and Far Cry 5, both based and redpilled games amirite? neck yourself CoDnigger
>guy on the left looks like a soi caricature
>guy in the middle looks like a stereotype jew
>guy on the right looks like a typical anglo white dude
hmmmm
>2020 -0.33
>still playing calladoody
That's because it's appropriated from a Nazi strawman image with only the text changed
>A bad game is good because of politics
>A good game is bad because of politics
Quit revolving your life around politics you dumb puppets. Don't you see this is exactly how media, talking heads, extremists, and politicians want you to act? Let me guess, you watch a talking head on YouTube or some alternative streaming site.
>OneAngryNewfag
>OneAngryShill
>OneAngryCuck
lmao
>its almost fucking 2020
what the fuck why does time advance. i was 15 only 7 years ago
Explain to me how that refutes my point?
Why are you sharing a screenshot of some random user's opinion here?
They can't, but Amerilards are so used to killing Arabs by this point they don't see anything political about it.
Its a edit of a image shitting on horseshoe theory.
In the interview, the interviewer asked, "is modern warfare political?" the answer was no because you have to assume he's talking about Trump and other world leaders because it's a stupid question.
Still trying too hard, shill.
Don't make social politics the focal point of your advertising campaign. Let he gameplay be the focal point.
Yep, it was originally a alt-right strawman comic. One of the less obnoxious ones because it didn't misstate the left-wing position too badly.
People are playing Minecraft again. People are playing wow classic again
People are going to play the shit out of this and halo when the time comes
>Explain to me how that refutes my point?
It's an explicitly political game that explicitly takes a political stance relevant to modern-day politics
I don't think that question has to mean about any specific person. Just the idea of a country being in another country is political but yeah the question's a little vague
But why though
>cod
>good
pick one
Wanna know how I know you're not a leftist
>le ebin morally grey single player story, so innovative, never been done before
Do you play any fucking other video games?
Weak
RENT FREE
People were fucking shitting themselves dude, what the hell are you on about?
No it won't. It's still call of duty you dumbshits. The only reason they're not going full sjw is because they're pissing enough people off with their shitty monetization models.
It's going to suck just like every call of duty since black ops and some of you will defend it because tribal /pol/ shit and some of you will condemn it because of tribal /pol/ shit but not one single fucking person will give one single fuck about about this shitty game because it's just another fucking post black ops cod and they all fucking suck. Fuck you, faggot.
Calm down Trumptard
>Retard journalists and leftists thinks "politics" in games just means fuck Drumpf and don't realize it actually means the stuff you see in MGS which makes you sympathize with all extremes and subvert expectations.
I only ever see right wingers on here saying that MGS isn't political.
Never claimed to be, but please expound, especially if you happen to have the original.
The game had a playable black male protagonist in one story, and playable white female protagonist in another story, but not both.
>i dont wanna commit to ether side the ideology
Because you think completely misrepresenting the leftist position is accurate, was the implication, which I thought was pretty obvious
Not the brightest crayon in the shed eh
> alt-right
Fuck off lefty. You're a fag and no one likes you which is why you lost to the second most insufferable political candidate in history.
>all the resettrannies itt seething over oneangrygamer
No, they just ran out of time for Black Ops 4 and scrapped it for Battle Royale
That doesn't refute my point. Deus Ex doesn't go simplistically "fuck Obama" and "fuck white men" which was my point. You can be critical of modern day politics and not be petty. Again MGS was literally this. You are helping my argument here not hurting it.
>colonize places like Yea Forums
hm that's some WHITE MAN stuff isn't it?
Because people clearly care more about the gameplay.
Not nearly as bad as EA. Don't be dishonest now.
>Deus Ex doesn't go simplistically "fuck Obama" and "fuck white men" which was my point.
Neither does any other game Yea Forums complains about. It's just that nowadays whenever any game has any sort of political point Yea Forums goes
>HURR LE DRUMPF ORANGE MAN BAD
I am a right winger, MGS is political.
and?
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>posts this image more than trannies probably post on this board
I want /pol/ to leave...
>having to pay rent
lmao imagine not being NEET
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>you lived long enough to see COD become a based series.
>Because people clearly care more about the gameplay.
That does not follow. Both games can be enjoyed for their gameplay. Both games can be hated for featuring black women. It's almost as if that wasn't actually the point.
Unless you're saying gamers are just sheep who will hate whatever they're told to hate even if they don't actually mind something when the people who'd tell them to hate it didn't find out about it
I want you to leave.
Is a Call of Duty game about to be the most based game to come out this year?
why is autistic_frog so obsessed with oneangrynewfag
PSA if you're buying it for any reason other than to dab on consolefags you are big gay.
>tfw GOTY will be a fucking call of duty game
Its 2010 again bois
probably honestly
i would honestly buy this if it had regional pricing. Fuck paying american prices in a third world country.
Post actual interview we don't need some eceleb to tell us it's based
Ooooh scathing.
It's Billy D himself astroturfing his shitty website.
He was really bad about in the leadup to Mortal Kombat XI, making like 100 articles about how the women don't like blow-up doll bimbos anymore.
Part of Wolfensteins ad campaign made reference to the MAGA slogan.
The latest Wolfenstein also references Trump bad see pic related.
Rage 2 had a character that parodied him in the most petty way possible.
You are wrong and you lose. Fuck off back to resetera.
That does follow. Your advertising campaign is how you advertise and sell the game. One choose politics. One choose gameplay. One of those two did better.
Can you explain how that works? I mean $60 is $60 right?
>gameplay looks solid
>first modern warfare since trilogy ended
>we will see price again
>devs are not shoving in politics
It will be kino for all those reasons.
>Please give my leftist journalist website some traffic
Absolutely not.
FREEDOM AINT FREEEEE!
>3 games out of the hundreds that come out.
Try harder.
You can live a couple weeks for 60$ in some parts of the world
>no game does this!
>uh.....umm...errr.......3 recent games are not enough!
again fuck off back to resetera
In simplest terms imagine if as an american you had to pay 240 dollars for every game. That's equivalent to paying $60 for a game here. If they drop the price by 1/3rd then they will see a lot more than a dozen buyers because my country has a ton of nerd gamers.
>One choose politics. One choose gameplay. One of those two did better.
Right, so gamers are shallow bitches who will hate one of two functionally identical games and praise the other just because it was sold to them differently
Is what you're saying
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Relax dude he was asking for the video
>no one likes you which is why you lost to the second most insufferable political candidate in history.
That was only because of the electoral collage, objectively speaking.
>Part of Wolfensteins ad campaign made reference to the MAGA slogan.
>The latest Wolfenstein also references Trump bad see pic related.
>Rage 2 had a character that parodied him in the most petty way possible.
lol that's barely anything
Also the "MAGA slogan" wasn't even political m8, it was just referencing current events.
No, what I am saying is gamers want to see gameplay not identity politics.
Well considering how much fucks reeee about anything political that you'd only feel safe playing Elmo's Number Adventure, I figured you'd give more examples.
But both games had both of those
>lol that's barely anything
>no games does this
>lol 3 examples is not enough
again fuck off back to resetera.
Where does this say 'fuck Trump'?
What the fuck is wrong with you OP?
A: Why would you trust what they say in that regard?
B: How would this make the game not shit?
It's really that bad? Well it feels good get lucky
COD devs called em out hard. Everyone has a different version of what being political means. For SJWs it means forcing right think on people. For everyone else its just using political allegory. New Vegas was a very political game, but it wasn't the leftist DRUMF BAD MARXISM GOOD kind of political thought policing.
Is this just what happens to cultures that aren't exposed to real mortal threats and war?
The argument was this doesn't happen. I showed it did in 3 different games.Now you are backpedalling. You lost user. Now play the "not that user but" card and other dishonest shit to save face.
1 game based its advertising campaign around it.
Nowhere
I hope so i really miss the good single player campaigns that CoD used to have
No. Things are cheaper here too. We are paying our country's pricing for everything so its not bad unless we buy something like a italian supercar etc. Local goods cost cheaper too so the standard of living here for normal people is pretty decent.
He's right though.
Wish you trannys would just kill yourselves already.
You're talking about minor details in massive games. Grow a thicker skin. Seriously you people can deny that games about American interventionism in the Middle East are apolitical but a game makes a throwaway reference to Trump being a retard in an optional readable as basically an easter egg and it's the height of SJW propaganda
You people are a joke
eg rent in america is like $2000 a month and here its like $300 for really good apartments in the heart of the city.
lol
New Vegas was made by SJWs
>they don't negatively reference Trump
now backpedaled to
>grow a thicker skin
Can someone explain how the left just lies on a whim like this? This is like borderline sociopath behavior.
So what's the actual leftist position?
I go from not a lefty to a lefty in one post.
The electoral college worked exactly in the way it was designed, to keep a few large states from dominating. Clinton ignored the rust belt, she lost the rust belt, and lost the election.
>1 game based its advertising campaign around it.
Hence
>gamers are shallow bitches who will hate one of two functionally identical games and praise the other just because it was sold to them differently
Not quite, hes a leftist but hes far from an SJW.
based
redpilled
cute
need i say more
>wolfenstein the new blood
Jesus fuck man I thought you'd at least be able to come up with something that, if you'd squint, at least looked like it had themes of resisting the Trump administration, but you're seriously just this petty.
Nevermind that Yea Forums already got its panties in a bunch about punching Nazis
the left cant meme is the best meme.
No. Gamers just care more about gameplay then anything else.
Which does Yea Forums prefer?
Cod campaigns with cog in the machine themes? (MoH-WaW)
Or,
Cod campaigns with blockbuster themes? (MW2-Present)
Honestly both are pretty based
>So what's the actual leftist position?
On what?
Sorry m8 I only remember that the image was bog-standard /pol/ shit
>resisting the Trump administration,
You did it again. That was not what we were talking about. You liberals are lying psychopaths.
It truly is the gift that wont stop giving.
>the game is good or bad based on politics not game play
What happened to this shit hole?
>he laughed at my pede hat
>better post a screencap from reddit
lol
Yeah, I feel like this term is intentionally nebulous and malleable in order to serve the needs of whoever feels like shitting on a political opponent at a given time, but he's been dragged through the mud by Yea Forums's anti-SJWs for his views plenty enough that I think I can safely call this one. There is no objective definition, but people who hate SJWs sure seem to think he's one, and no one else cares what an SJW even is.
tldr lol
Both games have pretty comparable gameplay.
Look man, we're going in circles, just admit that something doesn't add up here. Gamers are easily riled sheep who don't actually hate "political correctness" unless there's someone there to tell them it's bad.
>"OMG he didn't make fun of daddy trump!!"
>"Instant pre-order :)"
God you faggots are pathetic
How about real estate? A lot of my EU frens complain on expensive it is over there while its pretty affordable in my state
the left cant meme because its impossible to be left and have a sense of humor
>"alt-right pandering"
>has niggers and special forces women in it
I'd call you a delusional retard, but you're a tranny so that would be redundant
It's not even a real screencap. Literally a false flag.
lol
Lots of false flagging happening in here.
>You liberals are lying psychopaths.
It's kinda worrying how quickly you fascist scum resort to this rhetoric. And before you take umbrage: don't call me a fucking lib you Nazi.
And yes, that is what we were talking about. You think Yea Forums knows about minor easter eggs when they decide to complain about games before they're even released? Clearly those are not the issue. You're just dredging them up as justification after the fact.
...
>Right or Wrong
People can't be this stupid, can they? I guess I didn't expect much from oneangryincel, but this confirms his stupidity. Anyone who thinks politics are "right or wrong" instead of benefiting different people is a mongoloid. Pretty much your average American voter.
Quite expensive as we have a lot of foreigners hoarding up houses in major cities. Like $200k for a 2 bedroom apartment in the middle of the city.
>this is something we are to celebrate in 2k19
>don't call me a fucking lib you Nazi.
Not even that guy but you're a fucking caricature, man.
lol
>Both games have pretty comparable gameplay.
That's irrelevant. I am talking about how they choose to advertise the games. I agree that if EA nixed the social politics and focused on the game and didn't have the head say "Don't buy the game if you don't like it" it would have done better. It's actually not a bad game. But they made a stupid choice.
We are not going in circles. I made a point you have been trying terrible semantics and other redit tier arguments to refute and nothing is working. I know how this goes.
You mean like in your screencap? Best way to sell a bunch of contrarians on your message is convincing them that the opposition is trying to convince them of the opposite.
>The electoral college worked exactly in the way it was designed, to keep a few large states from dominating.
Democracy
woosh
You implied there was no anti Trump rhetoric in these games.
Then you said 3 examples wasn't enough.
Then you completely changed the argument to references of "resisting the trump administration"
You are a sociopath like most liberals and have no problem lying on a whim during a debate as minor as this one.
>every state has an equal say
yeah that's pretty democratic
In an ideal world maybe, but we've reached a point where a cabal of hyper rich pedophiles are spending their billions to convince the uneducated to vote against their own interests. You are half right, its no longer about right and wrong. now its good vs evil
Luckily identity politics keeps good men infighting with one another so evil will eventually prevail.
why is shitting on trump so taboo? are the right-wingers so thin-skinned? no politician is sacrosanct.
>That's irrelevant.
No, it's exactly the point. Gamers care about gameplay except when they apparently don't. You say it was about the advertising, but then CoD had all the same things Battlefield advertised and that didn't cause gamers to recoil in disgust. Conclusion: they don't actually give a shit about it. They're sheep who went along with the bandwagon.
You made a point that I've since refuted several times and you're just repeating it in lieu of giving an answer. That's going in circles.
Haha yes! The left's content is subpar! We consume much higher quality propaganda!
You can't tell me this isn't a /pol/ retard pretending to be a liberal. No real liberal acts this way.
the so called moderation team
Is amazing how this retards dismiss everything like for example when that asshole from EA told people they were uneducated and if they dont like the game they shouldn't buy it , i mean whats the point of that IMG other than just farm (you)'s ?
>ethan
which gamergate criminal is that?
>game series about war and corrupt military industrial complex
>not political
they could release a game that was just a reading of das kapital, and you 80 iq subhumans would advertise it for free, if they said they weren't being political in a statement to some blogger
Because people who support Trump think politics didn't exist before they started pretending to understand it three years ago. These people actually don't know that shitting on the president is the norm.
You've yet to give three examples of "anti-Trump rhetoric" if we're going to bitch about goalposts.
>You are a sociopath like most liberals and have no problem lying on a whim during a debate as minor as this one.
Lol yeah, again, I think this says more about your mental stability than mine dude. People can't just disagree with you or be mistaken about something, no, they are inhuman Agents of the Deceiver whose malicious denial of the Truth must be resisted!
the left cant meme
No democracy is
>every person has an equal say
Not
>every state
You're right, liberals don't act that way, I already told you I'm not one. Are you actually illiterate in addition to merely politically illiterate?
Wrong.
Okay lib.
>When simply saying that you aren't going to force political agenda into your game causes leftists to start shrieking and ripping their hair out
No it's irrelevant. When you spend millions on advertising you do this because this is how you want to sell your game to people. They choose to focus on social politics instead of gameplay which is what COD WW2 did. One did well the other didn't despite both having elements of "woke" politics. This is a failure in advertising. Always has been my argument no matter how much you try redit tricks to imply otherwise.
Losing an argument and refusing to admit that is not "running in circles" but go ahead and claim it's "running in circles" since you are preparing your exit strategy from this debate. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Nah, if a game merely features Marx in it because it's set in the 19th century then the developer can insist that it's apolitical until the sheep come home but it won't placate Yea Forums.
an art
Its boring after 4 years and usually indicates the piece of media was made by a dumber person, so it will probably be low quality.
They secretly know he's a shit President and don't want it rubbed in their face after all this time supporting him. It's the sunken cost fallacy.
Mocking Trump is anti Trump rhetoric. How is it not?
You changed your argument three times. You can try and fail to do the redit deflect the argument trick back at someone. I have been consistent you have changed your arguing like a lying liberal sociopath.
hope you're ready for another four years
I'm pretty sure voting hasn't mattered for a long time. Country has the same owners even if they do rotate figure heads around. But, yeah they keep the stupid population fighting among themselves.
When you decide to not have an opinion, you are effectively taking side with the status quo. Everything is political and pretending you can opt out is stupid at best and dishonest at its worst.
>leftist memes are literally right wing meme edits and "NO U"
You can't meme because leftism is an ideology for bugmen.
Their childlike minds won't allow them to enjoy anything without a pseudo-intellectual slant, and nothing is more pseudo than left wing politics.
but it happens to every politician in every country. i mean, the right spent 8 years screaming and cryiing because a black dem was in charge.
>women's rights
literally 90% of people believe in this
>trans pride is okay
literally 70% of people believe in this
>refugees are welcome
nah, they don't believe that
Ok good. I wouldn't admit to being a liberal either it's embarrassing to identify with them.
No, you just don't get the point I'm making.
In its simplest form, why do gamers hate an advertising campaign that focused on something that gamers don't actually hate? It makes no sense. You keep saying "well they hated the ad campaign" but that doesn't answer my question.
>meme ownership
>meme theft
lmao
Yes but they didnt put FUCK OBAMUR! in every single movie game and tv show.
Btw im not american so idc about your internal politics but I DO have to suffer through your media (as you seem to have cheated your way into a cultural victory). So that's why I 'support' trump on the internet.
they scrapped in blops4 for the battle royale mode and they lost such a large number of sales the game went on sale for $30 less than a month after launch. It was a pretty decisive failure. Obviously you could chalk it up to the entirety of blackout being worthless and buggy and shit, or zombies being rehashed, though the mp was pretty good. But the big one is lack of campaign, believe it or not a lot of people played the campaign. Maybe not 100% it or collect everything, but it's so rare to hear about someone who doesn't play the campaign. It's usually just a fucking action movie filled with setpieces, dumb fun.
Vote for him if you like, I'm not from America so I get to watch this shit hole burn up from the outside.
>redit tricks
>redit deflect
Your diseased mind sees ghosts everywhere huh
You may think you've been "consistent" but if you have then you've just been incredibly vague. Your inability to communicate your garbled thoughts to the outside world doesn't make me a sociopath, you schizo.
>between 24% and 90%
what the fuck are these statistics? that range is ridiculous
>why do gamers hate an advertising campaign that focused on something that gamers don't actually hate?
Because at its simplest form a game is something that requires input from your hands (most of the time) to manipulate gameplay on the screen which is "fun". When you don't advertise based on what you will spend most of your time doing and in fact focus on woke politics, yes it is a turnoff based on the medium.
How deep we going with these redit semantics because I am pretty good at refuting this stuff when liberals try this trick??
Hit a nerve? Bugmen can't make memes because they're soulless. Leftists don't have souls, and marxism is an ideology for insects.
Nah, leftists like to appropriate right-wing memes because right-wingers are always projecting so it's easy to turn their shit back on them. But in leftist spaces, you know, the ones you never visit, they have their own memes too.
because right-wing media isn't mainstream. it's crazies like infowars.
Not only is that flat out false, but this is a fucking video game not a political soap box. Madden being about football isn't some huge statement against niggers and you brainwashed retards who demand everything must be political need to stop injecting your dogma into everything
>Mocking Trump is anti Trump rhetoric. How is it not?
Answer the question. Don't dodge or are we going to go with "not that guy but"?
>trans pride is okay
>literally 70% of people believe in this
Spoken like a liberal. Won't save you from the gulag.
so this... is the person... calling you a race traitor online...
Point still stands you fuck with the world's entertainment the world will fuck with you. Not very hard to understand. Well anyway I've been reading books and watching animes lately to escape american media.
So it's going to play it neutral and let answers up to the player or something? That's pretty cool I guess, I just find it odd this is coming from a fucking shooter, and not a RPG.
Western devs today have they priorities kind of skewed.
>right wingers are always projecting
>"RACIST SEXIST FASCIST HOMOPHOBIC TRANSPHOBIC ISLAMAPHOBIC WHITE MAN!"
leftism is nothing but projecting.
>we got our own memes though
Care to post some leftist memes? I want to laugh.
>I believe in everything the left believes in but won't identify with the left because then that puts standards on me I have to defend so I will pretend to be apolitical
You aren't as smart as you think.
>Yes but they didnt put FUCK OBAMUR! in every single movie game and tv show.
Yeah, right-wingers are uncreative and in fact shit on creative pursuits so they had to make do with saying it on talk radio or painting it all over their pick-up trucks.
Btw that Roseanne reboot did explicitly praise Trump and shit on Hillary because the star is a literal QAnon loon
a funny leftist meme is that trans women are women
i'm sure you've seen others like it
Why are leftists always such diseased looking weirdos?
Darkest blue: Majority support same-sex marriage — 80-89%
Dark blue: Majority support same-sex marriage — 70-79%
Blue: Majority support same-sex marriage — 60-69%
Light blue: Majority support same-sex marriage — 50-59%
Blue-white: Plurality support same-sex marriage — 40-49%
Red-white: Plurality oppose same-sex marriage — 40-49%
Red: Majority oppose same-sex marriage — 50-59%
>"EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL"
fuck off with your critical theory bullshit marxist cunt. What's political about mario kart?
what it could be
>spec ops SP because the dev isnt poor like Insurgency devs
>over the top but grounded in reality
what it will be
>2007 gameplay
>M*tt D*ymon-tier plot
Most of the European countries are Centrist you should have a look there if u wanna know what a centrist is .
>When you don't advertise based on what you will spend most of your time doing and in fact focus on woke politics, yes it is a turnoff based on the medium.
Are you trying to tell me that gamers thought Battlefield wouldn't have gameplay? Did they not think it might be similar to the previous eight instalments in the series, just with black women? You're still painting a pretty dismal picture of the intellectual capacities of gamers.
Also I like how you make a point and from that moment on anyone arguing with you is just using tricks and lies because they're a sociopath.
>I am pretty good at refuting this stuff when liberals try this trick
You're really not. Also, still not a liberal.
>Care to post some leftist memes? I want to laugh.
I am going to show you the fuck up you racist alt righter. Behold.
Been playing BF4 a lot lately and have realized that I really want an infantry-only shooter, but without retarded chokepoints, grenade spam, airburst, mortar, etc. Everyone does everything in their power to avoid gunfights.
Seeing as BF4 is older now, every infantry server has at least five or six folks using no recoil/spread/breath and minimap or ESP scripts
I know this because I started writing my own overlay scripts and recoil/spread scripts
they are attracted to leftism due to ressentiment and being a disgusting mutant is a fast path to inferiority
OH NO /pol/BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY
How is "make America Nazi-free again" mocking Trump, you schizo?
That could easily be a Photoshop. It doesn't even make any sense
What does this have to do with trannies you fucking imbecile?
>drumpf and his son will go to prison this time!
lmao
Most people who support gay marriage are fine with trannies, right?
Ah yes, leftists are the real racists, and this is definitely not right-wing projection
>Support gun ownership but not being a bible thumping racist with a victim complex.
>Have no problem with homosexuality as a concept, but as a community it is rife with pedophilia and mentally ill insane people chopping their own dicks off and trying to proclaim this is normal behavior
Its hard not to be a centrist. Both sides have some good ideas that then get bogged down by utter retardation
It was a one off experiment with BLOPS 4 that was such a monumental disaster that Activision has gone out of it's way to emphasize the Campaign in the Modern Warfare remake.
$30 price drop in less than 3 months after release.
>Are you trying to tell me that gamers thought Battlefield wouldn't have gameplay?
No. Nowhere did I say this or allude to this and this is another desperate deflection attempt by you to attempt to misquote me to change the argument.
>Also I like how you make a point and from that moment on anyone arguing with you is just using tricks and lies because they're a sociopath.
No not anyone. Just the people that do that.
>You're really not. Also, still not a liberal.
Yea I know I know. A guy that believes everything the left believes and dislikes the right but won't adopt a liberal or democrat label because then you will be forced to defend the label and be judged by those standards. We all read rules for radicals.
trannies have cognitive impairments due to autism
I do believe in everything the left believes and never denied it. I will deny that liberals believe it.
You're definitely not as smart as I am.
Not him but you are most certainly a disingenuous liar and a typical Marxist using the English language's flexibility of definition to your advantage. Hyperbolic statements don't make you look smart.
>but as a community it is rife with pedophilia and mentally ill insane people chopping their own dicks off and trying to proclaim this is normal behavior
This is a huge problem and the gay community needs to deal with it. NAMBLA should be outlawed and people need to stop being afraid to speak against pedophilia because they're worried about being called a homophobe.
t. bifag
They were mocking his campaign slogan since sociopaths on the left keep comparing him to being a Nazi.
I posted a picture in that post to make things easier from the 2nd Wolfenstein game. Do you think that picture was flattering him?
>some marxist sounds dumb in this photo without proper context this must mean everyone on the left is retarded yes this makes sense
>*saves and reposts ad infinitum*
But yeah, lots of things. On the meta level it's what I mentioned before. You have a platform and you opt not to use it, and therefore you are choosing to say that things are fine as they are. That's political. Then there's the issue of the diversity of the cast, how they represent gender roles (racing in dresses, really?), tie in to the pretty misogynistic Mario universe and so on. Point is there is politics wherever you look because humans are political. We can't think without judging and forming opinions, and we cannot speak or act without being impacted by them. It's better to accept this fact.
You're confusing approving of trans rights and trans pride. You have the right to cut your dick off or stitch one on. But most people will see you as a fucking lunatic, and you are. Being proud of being trans is like being proud of being schizophrenic.
>its okay when we do it.
So does this mean they'll stop saying the nazis were the bad guys and the allies were the good guys in WW2?
Imagine someone saying that they can't say whether or not the nazis were wrong/bad/evil.
>Nowhere did I say this or allude to this and this is another desperate deflection attempt by you to attempt to misquote me to change the argument.
You definitely implied it when you argued that 1. gamers only care about gameplay and 2. gamers were turned away by the ad campaign. It's a well-established series by now and every instalment has basically played like the last one. Additionally, come to think of it, they inevitably showed gameplay alongside the reveal that that gameplay could feature black women. But that's not what gamers focused on. And somehow they reacted a lot better when the gameplay featured white men. Because gamers care about gameplay.
>No not anyone. Just the people that do that.
No one is doing that, schizo.
Democrats are just another arm of the neo-liberal Imperialist establishment and they do not represent me.
>sociopaths on the left keep comparing him to being a Nazi.
And what do they have to do with the people behind Wolfenstein?
Additionally, the one sane trans person I know is fucking miserable about being trans and never wants to bring it up. He wants to be a real girl, and doesn't want anyone to see him as trans, so he shuns the "trans pride" shit.
the bad guys won
>I do believe in everything the left believes and never denied it.
Wonderful there you go. You are doing what many on the left do. You ever notice how Christians are being attacked because someone will find 1 thing in that 1000 page bible that they will accuse Christians of not following thus they are bad Christians? The reason you do not identify as a Democrat or liberal or whatever is because you will be put in a position where you have to defend certain standards with the ideology you follow. So you just claim you don't follow one when you do. This way you can play dumb and say "i'm not a liberal" when it comes time to be critical of them. Many on the left are doing this today and it's a fundamental teaching of rules for radicals.
>no threads about the "no season pass" after Activision lied about mtx in ctr
>the fact that it might not be politically charged means it might be a good game
why even think about buying a game from developers you hold to such a low standard?
>Not him but you are most certainly a disingenuous liar and a typical Marxist
kek, now why don't I believe you?
No, on the other hand, you do at least seem to realise there's other people to the left of you than "liberals". I guess crypto-fascists just think alike.
>claims other people project via labelling him with mental illnesses
>schizo
Very intelligent stuff there commie.
>They were mocking his campaign slogan
They were using his campaign slogan.
>I posted a picture in that post to make things easier from the 2nd Wolfenstein game. Do you think that picture was flattering him?
Irrelevant. A screencap from a different game that came out after it doesn't justify your bitching about it before either of them was released.
>Jacob Minkoff
uh oh...
"Pride" in the context of civil rights refers to getting rid of stigma and in that sense there is a huge stigma on mental illness that people are trying to break
>1. gamers only care about gameplay
In advertising in advertising. Why do you keep leaving this part out?
>2. gamers were turned away by the ad campaign
Yes and all the "woke" politics meanwhile in COD WW2 this did not happen. I have had a solid and consistent argument the entire time. I understand how leftists argue and as long as you keep your argument consistent and don't let them change it (like you have tried) it's an easy win.
>No one is doing that, schizo.
You are doing it sociopath.
>Democrats are just another arm of the neo-liberal Imperialist establishment and they do not represent me.
Yea you don't identify with anyone because then you would have to defend your morals or standards so it's best to not have any.
>onedilatingtranny
Dilate
>debating politics on a Mexican Ouiji board
Americans everyone
>The reason you do not identify as a Democrat or liberal or whatever is because you will be put in a position where you have to defend certain standards with the ideology you follow.
The reason I don't identify as a Democrat or liberal is because I am ideologically opposed to them. It's not playing dumb. It's merely honest.
>gang of 5 rape a girl
>each gang member therefore only committed 1/5 of a rape
>get a lesser sentence
>woman denies holocaust
>literally directly shows support for the rapes and deaths of 6 million innocents
>only gets 6 months
Hmm.
I answered your question. I will answer your next question when you answer the question I proposed to you next:
>I posted a picture in that post to make things easier from the 2nd Wolfenstein game. Do you think that picture was flattering him?
no trannies are right-wing freaks performing offensive caricatures of sexist stereotypes of femininity.
do you have any idea how many 8gag fascists were trannies?
>6 million innocents
Damn... I came here to talk about video games...
They were mocking it since they know he gets compared to nazis by the insane left.
Wait how is it irrelevant? That screencap is mocking Trump, something that doesn't exist in games according to the left.
>less liberal
Liberal is about giving people freedom. Trannies and their kind want total bans and censorship on anything that criticises them or challenges their choices.
>/pol/ and 8/pol/ are full of trannies who tell people to dilate
wut
no seriously what the FUCK
Wow this shitty jpg is really convincing!
The reason you don't attach yourself to a specific ideology because you are force to abide by their standards and defend it thus like the coward you are you pretend to be apolitical or in the middle despite agreeing with almost everything they say. Again it's literally rules for radicals 101, your guys favorite book.
>In advertising in advertising. Why do you keep leaving this part out?
Why is this a relevant distinction? Advertising is by definition about the game it's trying to sell.
>Yes and all the "woke" politics meanwhile in COD WW2 this did not happen.
Yes, why? Shouldn't they have noticed the "woke" politics eventually? Do they hate it or not?
You don't have a solid and consistent argument, you're just stubborn. I guess you confused never admitting you're wrong for being right. Because pointing out why you're wrong is a lying liberal tactic, I guess.
>Yea you don't identify with anyone because then you would have to defend your morals or standards so it's best to not have any.
What makes you think I don't identify with anyone? What kind of crazy strawman did you conjure up here and why do you seemingly think it applies to not only me, but every single person left of you?
This is ironic right.
>1979
How is this supposed to prove anything?
>They were mocking it since they know he gets compared to nazis by the insane left.
That's your strained interpretation. It's not supported by the facts.
>Wait how is it irrelevant?
It's irrelevant to our current tangent.
Nazis only showed them propaganda work camps.
It's also hilarious you think the 6 gorillons died in camps, at least skim the wikipedia article on the holocaust.
Nazis wanted the red cross to think they weren't genociding. It's really not that complicated, /pol/-kun.
The absolute state of right wing 'intellectuals'
>you pretend to be apolitical or in the middle
Despite me explicitly telling you that I am a leftist and ideologically opposed to the Democratic party, you keep insisting that I am a liberal pretending to be apolitical. Because as long as you don't change your argument, the liberals can't win. Stellar argumentative tactics.
Imagine believing this image and thinking that makes you smart. I sure as shit can't.
Wow another shitty jpg!
It's fucking COD it's going to be shit. Do you review games based on how political they are?
>Why is this a relevant distinction?
I explained this many times already in my previous posts. For the last time advertising campaigns are what you spend a lot of money on to sell your games to the mass. They chose that selling point to be about woke politics and not gameplay. COD WW2 chose to focus on gameplay and not woke politics. One did well one did not as well despite both having woke elements. Hell in COD WW2 the last story stage is literally a concentration camp so if gamers are alt right nazis or whatever they should have rejected that game. I will just reference this post going forward if you keep asking me to make this same argument I made multiple times.
>Yes, why? Shouldn't they have noticed the "woke" politics eventually? Do they hate it or not?
Turns out when you don't make all your advertising around it making it seem like wokeness is a focal point people won't care as much. Who knew?
>You don't have a solid and consistent argument
Yes I do. From the very begining. Your replies have been dishonesty, misrepresentation of my arguments or simply "No you are wrong because I say so". I argue with you liberal scum all the time and I am not joking when I say you all argue exactly the same no matter what the topic.
>What makes you think I don't identify with anyone?
What do you identify with? I didn't say person by the way (I noticed that sneaky pre-argument tactic you just snuck in there) what political philosophy?
Why is the red cross report from the 1970s, tho? That's all I want to know.
>It's irrelevant to our current tangent.
Why? That statement mocks Trump something you were implying doesn't happen in games unless you think that statement doesn't then by all means explain how it doesn't?
they are authoritarian narcissists that seek to deprive women of their own accomplishments and safety in shelters and prisons. canada, right now, has one abusing their human rights tribunal to target immigrant women's businesses; trying to force them to wax his balls or close down. they actively get women's groups banned from social media for standing up for their own rights, and much of their advocacy is funded by a neocon billionaire.
why are three of the stars of david white
Leftist isn't a philosophy. You keep proving me right where you admit you are left leaning but won't attach yourself to a group because then you have to defend those groups and stand by their morals thus why you claim to not be part of them. Rules for radicals 101.
Wow you found three jews in companies that employs literally hundreds (assuming this is super 100% factual but why would you lie right). I guess I miss hitler now!
Leftism is a collection of related philosophies based around the equality of people, as compared with rightism which is based around the hierarchy of people.
>Looks like the new CoD might actually be good
Fuck off shill.
Leftism is just where you stand on a political graph. It's still not part of any specific group or philosophy.
>I explained this many times already in my previous posts.
No, you're going in circles again but you're not seeing the relevant distinction. Repeating yourself is unhelpful. You keep telling me something is a certain way, I ask you why, you repeat by saying that's how it is. I think you're just really desperate to cling to this narrative that the "woke" ad campaign sunk Battlefield when your argument is really full of holes.
>Turns out when you don't make all your advertising around it making it seem like wokeness is a focal point people won't care as much. Who knew?
Yeah, who knew? Does that make sense? Not to me. I mean, I guess I won't go to a sandwich shop that proudly advertises its shit sandwich, but neither will I stay in one after having furtively been fed a shit sandwich.
>I argue with you liberal scum all the time and I am not joking when I say you all argue exactly the same no matter what the topic.
Yeah, no wonder, considering you think finding holes in someone's argumentation is a liberal scum tactic.
>I didn't say person by the way (I noticed that sneaky pre-argument tactic you just snuck in there)
What the fuck are you even trying to say here? Now you're pre-emptively accusing me of things before I get the chance of doing them based on your idiotic strawman image?
>what political philosophy?
Marxism-Leninism.
Imagine having some 6ft broad shouldered dickhead approach your daughter and demand she wax his balls. What the fuck have we come to?
Owners and senior staff are very, very different from regular employees. That's a poor argument, user.
Leftism:
>progressivism: everyone should have some equality of opportunity
>socialism: everyone should have total equality of opportunity and some equality of outcome
>communism: everyone should have total equality of outcome
Rightism:
>neoconservatism: some people are better than others because of their work ethic or who their parents were (inheritance)
>fascism: some people are better than others because of their nationality
>nazism: some people are better than others because of their race
>I mean, I guess I won't go to a sandwich shop that proudly advertises its shit sandwich, but neither will I stay in one after having furtively been fed a shit sandwich.
Oh yeah, but then I guess the argument is that gamers actually don't mind shit sandwiches, which then raises the question, why would they avoid the place that serves them?
I like how it's frontloaded too with the "best" ones first, but already on the second line it's pulling in dead people, family ties and what fucking ever they could find. Not like the retards who are susceptible to such "truths" are actually going to check everyone.
Nothing you have listed under rightism is actually correct.
Is it worth playing this on PC when it comes out or is it only good on console?
Or leftism
it's fucking call of duty, it's shit on any platform
Right
>me smart
>i deserve things because im smart
>people not smart deserve less
>if have little means no smart
Left
>I'm not very smart but I know enough to see that the world is complicated and we need each other even if we don't have to like each other.
Trannies are already reading books about gay sex to your children.
>enough time has already passed that we can talk about COD being good or bad again
Life is so short lads
>fascism means nationalist supremacy
>national socialism means racial supremacy
You're not too bright, are you?
>Marxism-Leninism.
I don't know if this is false flag or not, but you lost here, pal, the prefered way to "debate" by fanatics is ad hominem.
A shame because you are right (I don't even understand why /pol/tards started acting like hypocritical bitches in Yea Forums for several years now, where nobody fucking cares if you hate niggers or not. I guess is to bring more morons into the rabbit hole by appearing rational?).
>No, you're going in circles again
I have not once gone circles. You are losing this argument, keep doing dishonest tricks and because you are not winning and able to refute me you call that "going circles".
>Yeah, who knew? Does that make sense? Not to me.
Yes because gaming is a medium heavily dependent on gameplay.
>Yeah, no wonder, considering you think finding holes in someone's argumentation is a liberal scum tactic.
No holes were found at all.
>Now you're pre-emptively accusing me of things before I get the chance of doing them based on your idiotic strawman image?
Your next post was going to be something like "I support moderate politician or person x" or something since you changed my claim about not following a person and not an ideology and I caught that. By the way that is yet another example of you flat out lying and changing what I say. Whenever I argue with liberals this is all you guys do.
>Marxism-Leninism.
Ok this makes complete sense now this disconnect from reality and how capitalistic concepts like advertising a product on its strengths trigger and upset you.
You
>dumb
Me
>smart
Every typical book, song or film with a romance plot is essentially heterosexual propaganda and we've been feeding that to kids since forever. It's only fair that we finally even the odds just a little.
None of this is correct are you a retard?
I am left leaning and I am begging you to shut the fuck up you are making us all look stupid now.
>heterosexual propaganda
You mean those natural relationships that are essential for propagating the species?
>wahh they are KIDS and you make them think about SEX nooo ;_;
>w-wait it's okay when it's the right kind of sex ;)
>comparing yourself to the norm
Retard.
>Marxism-Leninism.
Why are you helping him argue against you user? You should just leave the thread now.
>>fascism means nationalist supremacy
It does. See: Mussolini.
>>national socialism means racial supremacy
It does. See: Hitler.
Multiplayer has crossplay so best to buy on PC
But you'll be fine either way
Homos make up less than 2% of the population so its only fair that less than 2% of media is geared at them.
>Marxism-Leninism.
Do any of you moderate liberals not see why you get mocked so often? This is the person loudly representing you.
You know you're wrong, user. It's up to you to admit it to yourself and leave your denial behind.
>>what political philosophy?
>Marxism-Leninism.
>this post
>I have not once gone circles.
You have, and I don't know how you don't realise it yourself. I point out a flaw in your argument, you point out another aspect of your argument. I point out that I already addressed that too, and it's back to the first. You think this is being consistent. It's just being obstinate.
>Yes because gaming is a medium heavily dependent on gameplay.
See? Don't even address any of my points. Just repeat the generic one size fits all argument.
>Your next post was going to be something like "I support moderate politician or person x"
Why? Even after what I just told you you still maintain that that's what I was going to do?
>Ok this makes complete sense now
Definitely didn't make sense to you until I said it and you're pretending it was so obvious. Yet you still called me a liberal in the line above and claimed I totally want to pretend to be moderate for some reason. Couldn't even go back and correct that? Or are you so averse to admitting you're wrong that you can literally just say two contradictory things one second apart without it registering as a contradiction? You know I thought that part in 1984 where the announces switches tracks mid-sentence was ridiculous but I feel like I'm seeing it in action here.
Fuck off, I am not representing them.
>you changed my claim about not following a person and not an ideology and I caught that
By the way this is an actual straight-up lie you sociopath.
>raping a child is a less serious offense than saying words
?
>You have
I have not comrade.
>See? Don't even address any of my points. Just repeat the generic one size fits all argument.
Because that argument is relevant to what you say.
>Why? Even after what I just told you you still maintain that that's what I was going to do?
Yes you changed your plan because I called your hand. You made that so clear when you changed my claim from believing in a philosophy to believing a person. Can you acknowledge you misrepresented my statement there?
>Definitely didn't make sense
You literally identified as a Marxist. Nothing you say can be taken seriously now and again you not understanding how capitalism works and are confused by it shows what the problem is here. Everyone is now rightfully mocking you over this even apparently left leaning people
No you are the liar you sociopath. Where did I claim you didn't follow a person? Quote me on that.
>Marxism-Leninism.
>resetera isn't here
>hmmmm ah yes typical liberal, saying you're not a liberal, bet you just love the democratic party like a true liberal, you liberal, you're just lying like all liberals
>Actually I'm a Marxist-Leninist if you want me to be specific, no qualms admitting that
>Ah yes hmm marxist-leninist yes i knew all along yes typical, you fell into my trap
Right wing galaxy brains up in this thread
>Yes you changed your plan because I called your hand.
Or, get this, you've been projecting all sorts of weird fucking shit on me all along with no evidence
I'm not even going to bother with your circular argument any more btw, because I definitely do know what you will say, and it's the same thing as before.
People like you are why /pol/ shits up Yea Forums. Go fuck yourself.
That's the society we live in.
Police in the UK covered up a massive muslim child-sex ring because they were worried of the words people might say when they found out about it.
Where did I say you didn't follow a PERSON? Quote me on that?
>Where did I claim you didn't follow a person?
Where did I claim anything of the sort? What the fuck is actually going on with your brain? You're so stuck in your warped version of reality I can't make sense of it.
Since there's a denier in this thread, can you explain the chimney meme to me? If it's a fake, why was it built like that? I don't work in construction but I'm pretty sure fucking up so hard is pretty hard, especially when you're trying to fake something.
>oneangryincel
God, can you imagine anything more pathetic than going out of your way to be pissed off all the time, like it's some kind of hobby? You don't do that, right user?
>only one person has taken issue with me this entire thread!
>What makes you think I don't identify with anyone?
>anyone
You really fucked up bigly here. There is no way you can semantics your way out of this one. Where did I claim you don't follow a person?
/pol/ is why I am like this and shitting up this thread
>only one
>this oversimplification of the motives of the government
Are you new to this or are you pretending to be stupid?
Things are much, much worse than you know.
I can't believe they're going to have an incel mass shooting mall level, gonna be nuts
Then go to /pol/ you fucking autist. You can argue all you want with them and not get banned for ideology.
>You really fucked up bigly here.
>you don't identify with anyone
Literally just the same word you used. But I guess when I use it it's a sneaky liberal word that means something else?
Fuck me, dude, you're something else.
>neo-liberal Imperialist establishment
Do you not even read your own diarrhea posts you respond to me with and the context of my replies? Whats hilarious about this is you think you one upped me here and again exploded on your face bigly.
Why bother, they come here
Fucking hell I was arguing about video games at first but then it suddenly became relevant which specific political ideology I follow even though I never asked the other guy for his and somehow I'm at fault?
Your entire argument was misleading what I was saying and you kept throwing temper tantrums because you couldn't refute what I was saying. Now we are in the post game mocking how you unironically identify as being a Marxist.
I'm sure that in the 4d chess game in your head that's a huge own but frankly it looks like retarded flailing to me. No logical connection to anything. I'm gonna stop bothering, I think.
MW3 was absolute trash, though
>the Quarterpoundering
You should have when you started lying and misrepresenting me and you should have the moment you unironically called yourself a Marxist. I really hope for your sake you are not older than 18.
>unironically linking OneAngryGamer
>Your entire argument was misleading what I was saying and you kept throwing temper tantrums because you couldn't refute what I was saying.
No, I kept refuting your point and you just kept repeating it, ironically because you don't seem to grasp how I refuted it, or because you just don't care. Then I identified my political persuasion to you as requested, and in direct contradiction to your smug speculating and armchair psychologising, and now you just latched onto that in order to ad hominem the whole argument away. You're a pathetic worm. One of the slimiest specimens I've had the displeasure of encountering here, and that;''s saying something.
>You should have when you started lying and misrepresenting me
Still just going to point out the hypocrisy here when you not only completely assumed huge implied parts of my argument that were never intended on my part based on your wrongful assumptions about my politics, and that you stopped arguing pretty much entirely the moment I definitively proved you wrong on that one and just started pretending you won.
>No, I kept refuting your poin
You did not refute anything once. You kept saying i was wrong then arguing something I wasn't saying. I don't know if Marxism is a sign of brain cancer but you can't accept that gameplay, which is what you do mostly in games, play the games is what people would like to see advertised in an advertising campaign and not woke politics. I stand by my claim of you being a lying sociopath because that's all you have been. If you are older than 18 and still claim to be a Marxist end your life.
Thank you for demonstrating one final time that you do not grasp my counter argument. If you're curious, it's up there. You said nothing new, after all.
>OneAngryGamer
Does anyone find it funny that people who are vocal about being apolitical in media tend to be lean right politically?
Here is how this argument has gone.
>I make my argument
>you say it's wrong
>I say why
>you attack something I didn't say
>I reiterate my actual argument
>you attack something I didn't say
>I reiterate my actual argument
>you attack something I didn't say
>I reiterate my actual argument
>you attack something I didn't say
>I reiterate my actual argument
Sprinkle in you calling it a circular debate because you are frustrated you cannot refute me. You are frustrated you can't win here. I am not joking when I say left leaning people like you argue the exact same way and I have been exposed to this many times and you are frustrated your tricks aren't working. That's all it is.
You have no counter argument other than lies and misrepresenting me. Gamers care about gameplay over everything else. Go get your brain checked out if this concept is a shock to you.
>Does anyone find it funny that people who are vocal about being apolitical in media tend to be lean right politically?
Well it makes sense since the argument is the majority of the media tends to lean left.
It's "So you're saying?" all over again, he can't break the conditioning.
>telling a story form one perspective is claiming that perspective is right or wrong
imagine being this much of a fucking brainlet
What's with the leftist cucks itt? Literally no one likes you or buys into your bullshit.
Liberals basically argue in a way to change the argument/your argument. It's why they love things like analogies for example, anything that can change the argument. In baby steps they try to slowly change what you said without you saying it so at the end they can "aha" you and even if it's not your beginning argument, they will quote the deviations and claim you were ok with that. It's tricks, that's all it is no honesty or integrity. The way he argues is how everyone argues on left leaning political sites. It's so easy to beat them cause all you have to do is sit back and point out how they are trying to change what you are saying. Never ever ever ever let a liberal change your argument even if you still feel like you can refute the new BS they are bringing in.
He's a marxist. Their mentality is that all things can, and should, be infused with political ideology.
>but everybody thinks politics = left-wing political correctness for some reason
The reason they think that is because everything right of lenin is taboo in media, so most people want shit to be neutral
>being this gullible
You're actually being fooled by insanely obvious sales tactics. It's like those idiots that went and saw Rogue One because "Darth Vader is in it"
its like people completely forgot bush had far worse public image than either
people criticize politicians, are you literally so young you dont remember?
>Marxism-Leninism.
Reminder that supporting the status quo is an inherently right-wing position, since it suggests the changes in society that are still blatantly necessary simply aren't needed.
>A: Why would you trust what they say in that regard?
In the full interview the dev seemed very level headed and the industry has learned after BF V that military shooters can be very sensitive to excessive pandering.
>How would this make the game not shit?
It doesn't but it's a step in the right direction
remember how anti-SJWs made the des censor both battletech and the expansion for baldur's gate HD?
at this point you cant honestly claim both SJWs and anti-SJWs wont try to censor given the chance
>both sides are wrong based on my retarded logic
>therefore SJWs are ok
what?
Wrong.
i didnt say SJWs, i said both SJWs and anti-SJWs want to force devs to follow their dumbass politics
so i have a better idea, allow devs to do what they please, if you dont like what they put in their games, dont fucking buy and make your goddamn own
i dont need neither of you faggots censoring my games
Right leaning people generally want media content to be neutral cause they are confident in their worldview and don't need it confirmed in everything they consume.
>Lmao, women knowing they are only cum bucket
>Right leaning people generally want media content to be neutral
and in order to do that you find justifiable to censor that content in order to make it "neutral"
No here is what you are doing. You are drawing a comparison saying both are bad so we don't have to address what SJWs are doing. By saying both are bad you try to muddy the waters so SJWs can do whatever they want because "both are bad what are you going to do". It's so transparent and dishonest. SJWs are 100% in the wrong for this case. You want to argue about games violence sure go whine to Trump since he is saying stupid shit there. Not everything is 50/50 both sides are equally bad that is incredibly childish thinking. SJWs 100% are the problem here.
the biggest bullshit ever perpetuated is the idea that both fascism and nazism are right wing, ideologies that do not support the free market, do not protect personal rights and liberties and support big government and huge national spending both fascism and nazism are collectivist left-leaning ideologies
very similar to what argnetina has been practicing since the 30s under peron, and nobody with a brain argues argentina is right leaning
Imagine the level of seethe the person who made this was on
>No here is what you are doing. You are drawing a comparison saying both are bad so we don't have to address what SJWs are doing.
if they are not trying to censor media, i dont give a toss what the SJWs do, they can include whatever they please in their own games
>By saying both are bad you try to muddy the waters so SJWs can do whatever they want because "both are bad what are you going to do".
and by saying only one is bad, you allow instances of censorship committed by anti-SJWs to pass
>It's so transparent and dishonest. SJWs are 100% in the wrong for this case. You want to argue about games violence sure go whine to Trump since he is saying stupid shit there. Not everything is 50/50 both sides are equally bad that is incredibly childish thinking. SJWs 100% are the problem here.
my position is very simple, i believe commercially games should side with the consumer, im a consumer so i want monetization systems that benefit me
artistically i believe games should side with the developer and i find censorship coming from agents outside of game development is unjustifiable, while censorship coming from the publisher is a bit more gray, since theres an economic relationship between the two
I just want to use barrel bombs on moderate sandniggers.
Ass sad please stop.
Why did Son of the Mask become such a big thing, recently? It must've came out 15 years ago.
Stonetoss btfoing trannies and retards, as usual.
They're raised to worship their God Emperor. Welcome to nu America
>if they are not trying to censor media, i dont give a toss what the SJWs do, they can include whatever they please in their own games
But they are trying to censor user. Thats why people dislike them.
>and by saying only one is bad, you allow instances of censorship committed by anti-SJWs to pass
Anti SJW activities are rebuttals. Left wing SJWs started this. user this is like saying if I kept slapping you in the face 100 times and you kept saying "stop bully" and then finally you slap me back and I say SEE! SEE! SEE! LOOK WHO THE REAL BULLY IS NOW! SEE! HYPOCRITE! This is how childish you are acting. Anti SJWs should stop too but you are intellectually being dishonest (on purpose) by implying they are the same.
>my position is very simple, i believe commercially games should side with the consumer, im a consumer so i want monetization systems that benefit me
>artistically i believe games should side with the developer and i find censorship coming from agents outside of game development is unjustifiable, while censorship coming from the publisher is a bit more gray, since theres an economic relationship between the two
Good same here. Sounds like we are both anti SJW.
>left leaning people like you argue the exact same
It's frustrating, most of the time when I get into argument with these kinds of people I really could care less about the argument at hand and am just playing devils advocate and then they start assuming the wildest things about the argument I'm making as well as about the kind of person I am.
it will be ruined by activison's monetization
Based.
My advice stop arguing with liberals it's pointless
Sounds like somebody got BTFO
oh boy this extra mega bullshit
>Red Cross
the report you are quoting was refuted by the Red Cross itself back in the 70s, the Red Cross itself said its mission is to assist victims, not count it, you are quoting crap that has been refuted for 40 years
>ground penetration bullcrap
see image
funny how a team of investigators from the university of birmingham using ground penetrating radar DID find mass graves huh?
birmingham.ac.uk
oh i guess that doesnt count
>muh typhus
this is my favorite denial argument, you people are so dumb that you dont realize even in your own fan fiction nazis are responsible for the deaths
the nazis moved the jews and other groups out of their homes, took away their property and prevented them from leaving the camps, the nazis also started the war
so whos responsible for keeping the immates alive in the camps they were moved to after the war they started goes south?
Yes you
Look for the Destructiod review where the COD dev assblasted the journalist because he wouldn't say the game was political or had anything to do with Trump.
The journo then went on to whine about colonialism and other shit
>typical anglo white dude
i thin kmost of Yea Forums will get upset over what happens in the game like in mgs gz when paz gets raped
not gonna lie it made me feel bad for a long time when paz gets raped by chico
>But they are trying to censor user. Thats why people dislike them.
then going by that logic you must also hate anti-SJWs because they have censored games in the past, this is a fact
>Anti SJW activities are rebuttals. Left wing SJWs started this. user this is like saying if I kept slapping you in the face 100 times and you kept saying "stop bully" and then finally you slap me back and I say SEE! SEE! SEE! LOOK WHO THE REAL BULLY IS NOW! SEE! HYPOCRITE! This is how childish you are acting. Anti SJWs should stop too but you are intellectually being dishonest (on purpose) by implying they are the same.
i didnt see the battletech devs censorsing other games, or the baldurs gate HD devs
what you are doing right now is called guilt by association, and its fucking stupid
its not ok when the other team does it because it simply shows both are reactionary retards with no principles
>Good same here. Sounds like we are both anti SJW.
the difference being i dont support censorship and dont defend censorship committed by anti-SJWs
if you dislike censorship then you must dislike censorship coming from any group outside of the game development environment
Yeah show your superiority with unfunny doge memes you win redditor
>then going by that logic you must also hate anti-SJWs because they have censored games in the past, this is a fact
I addressed this already if you kept reading.
>i didnt see the battletech devs censorsing other games, or the baldurs gate HD devs
So you are saying 2 actions are the same as the hundreds of actions SJW do? They are on equal footing here? What you are doing here is called a false equivalence and you are doing it as a way to defend the actions of SJWs as I said above. If you really cared about game censorship you would see that SJWs by a large margin do it more so it's not co,parable but you are creating false equivalences.
It's bad when the right does it. But the left leaning SJWs do it more. Can you agree with this statement?
I know.
i'm more than happy to admit that I'm wrong when I'm wrong, you should try it sometime.
>So you are saying 2 actions are the same as the hundreds of actions SJW do? They are on equal footing here? What you are doing here is called a false equivalence and you are doing it as a way to defend the actions of SJWs as I said above. If you really cared about game censorship you would see that SJWs by a large margin do it more so it's not co,parable but you are creating false equivalences.
if an action is bad when perpetrated by group A then its also bad when perpetrated by group B, it doesnt matter what the score is
its not even a rational stance because censoring "SJW" games does not stop SJW from trying to censor other games, if anything it encourages them to do so under your same idiotic logic
>It's bad when the right does it. But the left leaning SJWs do it more. Can you agree with this statement?
i can agree the SJWs seems to have done it more on the past, atleast on the surface, i cant keep track of every instance of censorship
but its equally bad when either group does it because its the exact same action, guilt by association does not exist
and heck for what is worth nowadays SJWs seems more concerned with making their own games instead of censoring them
>SJWs
>making games
I've noticed this retard shilling a lot lately.
Does anyone know if they would be keeping in the No Russian mission considering how many mass shooters are coming out of the woodworks these days? And to top it all off the US president is making some shitshows to attack violent video games. With all that combined I really don't think it would.
>if an action is bad when perpetrated by group A then its also bad when perpetrated by group B, it doesnt matter what the score is
That's childish logic and also blatantly anti science and statistic. If a specific group is causing much more problems then another then that group is the problem. Like you are acting like 2 cases validates hundreds of others and you want to pretend to me you are being impartial here.
>its not even a rational stance because censoring "SJW" games does not stop SJW from trying to censor other games, if anything it encourages them to do so under your same idiotic logic
No my logic is if 99% of people cause a problem, they are the majority of the people causing the problem based on basic math and while the 1% are also wrong, they clearly aren't the majority of the trouble makers here.
>i cant keep track of every instance of censorship
You say that while you cling to two specific anti SJW cases and you are trying to con us into thinking you don't have an agenda here. It's 100% honest to say 1 side is causing this issue overwhelmingly more than the other and thus they deserve more of the blame. There is no 50/50 blame here again based on basic mathematics. The fact that you go against basic mathematics to desperately cling to the, they are both equally bad narrative goes back to my original point about you defending SJWs by claiming this isn't overwhelmingly an issue perpetuated by them. These dishonest tactics are really really sad and really transparent FYI.
KEEP POLITICS OUT OF MY WAR GAME
Nigger Quater Pounder is the redditest shit ever.
Just 42% youself already, (((Annie)))
well thats what you think about wolfenstein, battletech, mortal kombat, mafia 3, life is strange, etc
>That's childish logic and also blatantly anti science and statistic. If a specific group is causing much more problems then another then that group is the problem. Like you are acting like 2 cases validates hundreds of others and you want to pretend to me you are being impartial here.
guilt by association is not backed by science
>No my logic is if 99% of people cause a problem, they are the majority of the people causing the problem based on basic math and while the 1% are also wrong, they clearly aren't the majority of the trouble makers here.
ok ill make it simple, you are anti censorship right?
if SJWs censor games and you censor games in response
did you actions reduce the amoutn of censorship in the games industry?
>You say that while you cling to two specific anti SJW cases and you are trying to con us into thinking you don't have an agenda here.
is say this because those are the ones i witnessed and one of them affected me because i bought battletech
>It's 100% honest to say 1 side is causing this issue overwhelmingly more than the other and thus they deserve more of the blame. There is no 50/50 blame here again based on basic mathematics. The fact that you go against basic mathematics to desperately cling to the, they are both equally bad narrative goes back to my original point about you defending SJWs by claiming this isn't overwhelmingly an issue perpetuated by them. These dishonest tactics are really really sad and really transparent FYI.
every group who censors games deserves 100% of the blame for censoring games
it seems you are more concerned with the public image of anti-SJWs instead of the actual censorship
WAR IS SIMPLY TWO SIDES SHOUTING FUCK DRUMPF TOO EACH OTHER
fucking epic
>guilt by association is not backed by science
Ok but still math is. You just completely bypassed this entire part with your redit fallacy name drop. There is again one side overwhelmingly perpetrating this more than the other independent of your beliefs and bias. So based on basic mathematics one side is causing more problems and it's ok to identify this. What you believe is irrelevant to that point so your cute little deflect won't work here.
>did you actions reduce the amoutn of censorship in the games industry?
If SJWs censored 500 games and I censored 2 then the censorship went up to 502 games here yes. Where should most of our effort go to stopping the people behind this initially? Who can we say is more to blame here?
>is say this because those are the ones i witnessed and one of them affected me
Ok so don't pretend you don't know these things mr trying to larp as a moderate and clearly isn't.
>every group who censors games deserves 100% of the blame for censoring games
Ok so where should most of our efforts go if 99% of people are causing the censoring?
>it seems you are more concerned with the public image of anti-SJWs instead of the actual censorship
No you got me wrong. I agree both are bad. I am saying based on basic statistics one is worse and is the ones we should devote most of our attention stopping. So yes that is me agreeing both are wrong but me saying one does it more thus they own this more and should be the one we focus on. You on the other hand are a guy, probably a liberal probably is against SJWs but they are "your team" so you can't bring yourself to say they are a problem so you muddy the waters saying both are bad so we really can't focus on either to stop and the ones causing this issue more. By the way I admit the right is wrong for doing this before you do the redit flip the argument trick on me I am saying once again one side does it more so calling it an equal issue on both sides is dishonest
How does this refute it?
>writers being directly involved in game development
Leaning toward one direction in one game, and different directions in different games: okay
Balancing different perspectives in one game: also okay
Hammering the same ideology over and over and over, and publicly ridiculing potential customers who substantially disagree with that ideology: not okay
The problem with being "in the moment" is that it will inevitably become dated. People who happen to play the game five, ten, or 15 years from now won't care nearly as much as they do now. This is the problem with trying to do current events. Making a story timely only makes it temporary.
Because the random person's statement isn't, and relates to what you're saying, genius.
No it doesn't plus it doesn't refute what I said. So it's true than that retard liberals and journalists think "fuck drumpf" is what people want in politics in gaming?
Let's be honest. If it was ever going to get your money you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself
>no politics
You know war in itself is political, right?
>No it doesn't plus it doesn't refute what I said
Yes. You don't have to be such a touchy little bitch, it's not meant to.
No it doesn't. He went off on a tangent about Deus Ex. My argument is liberals and the media think saying fuck drumpf = politics. Attacking politics in Deus Ex doesn't refute that. Why is liberalism such a mental disorder?
>Why is liberalism such a mental disorder?
It's really the Internet's fault. Liberals IMO aren't bad people. The internet has introduced a "McDonaldsization" of politics. So they buy into the good guy bad guy dynamics and the dumbing down of how everyone they dislike is a Nazi. Like I voted Obama because he was the better option IMO but I also voted Trump for the same reasons but I wish there were better options at the time for both.
>Retard journalists and leftists thinks "politics" in games just means fuck Drumpf and don't realize it actually means the stuff you see in MGS which makes you sympathize with all extremes and subvert expectations.
Replied to with post talking about what politics in games is. Which your post explicitly was about.
>My argument is liberals and the media think saying fuck drumpf = politics
and the screencap elaborating on the distinction between featuring politics, and making a statement(i.e. fuck grogghnauld blharroumphr)
>doesn't refute that
Again, it's not meant to, you defensive moron. You don't have to be such a touchy little cunt. Not everyone is out to get you.
>Ok but still math is. You just completely bypassed this entire part with your redit fallacy name drop. There is again one side overwhelmingly perpetrating this more than the other independent of your beliefs and bias. So based on basic mathematics one side is causing more problems and it's ok to identify this. What you believe is irrelevant to that point so your cute little deflect won't work here.
you THINK is backed by math because you made the wrong analysis, even if we were to accept 95% instances of censorship in games are perpetrated by SJWs, that is not the same as 95% of SJWs being responsible for censorship
but thats neither here nor there, because instead of denouncing 95% cases of censorship, we could denounce 100% cases of censorship and try not to act as hypocrites as well
>If SJWs censored 500 games and I censored 2 then the censorship went up to 502 games here yes. Where should most of our effort go to stopping the people behind this initially? Who can we say is more to blame here?
again you are obsessed with public image, you should be instead obssesed with the act of censoring games
and if your brilliant plan to "stop" SJWs involve censoring even more games, get that gay shit outta here you clearly do not care about the censorship of games
>Ok so don't pretend you don't know these things mr trying to larp as a moderate and clearly isn't.
who says im a moderate, im very anti censorship, i dont find any type of censorship coming from outside the game industry as justifiable
>Ok so where should most of our efforts go if 99% of people are causing the censoring?
well our efforts certainly should go to censoring more games i tell you that
it should be going towards addressing every instance of censorship and condemning it equally, and supporting devs who stand their ground, vote with yer wallet
cont.
cont.
>No you got me wrong. I agree both are bad. I am saying based on basic statistics one is worse and is the ones we should devote most of our attention stopping. So yes that is me agreeing both are wrong but me saying one does it more thus they own this more and should be the one we focus on. You on the other hand are a guy, probably a liberal probably is against SJWs but they are "your team" so you can't bring yourself to say they are a problem so you muddy the waters saying both are bad so we really can't focus on either to stop and the ones causing this issue more. By the way I admit the right is wrong for doing this before you do the redit flip the argument trick on me I am saying once again one side does it more so calling it an equal issue on both sides is dishonest
i call every group responsible for censorship as supporting censorship, how is that dishonest, dishonest is claiming to be anti-censorship and support a particular kind of censorship
>You on the other hand are a guy, probably a liberal
wrong, if you have to know, im libertarian, i defend personal freedom over everything else, also part of the reason why i oppose censorship
I hate nu/v/. You reddit transplants give more of a shit about storylines and politics over the fucking gameplay.
well yes, as much as say, composers
>Replied to with post talking about what politics in games is. Which your post explicitly was about.
No he replied with (his opinion) what it isn't. That still doesn't refute me.
>and the screencap elaborating on the distinction between featuring politics, and making a statement(i.e. fuck grogghnauld blharroumphr)
See above.
>Again, it's not meant to, you defensive moron. You don't have to be such a touchy little cunt. Not everyone is out to get you.
I made an argument about what the left and media thinks politics is. I mentioned MGS. The post user saved that isn't even his own words tries to attack that but doesn't refute my initial argument. It's just an attempt at a punt.
>Why is liberalism such a mental disorder?
It's a combination of "road to hell paved with good intentions" syndrome and truly evil people taking advantage of useful idiots.
The average liberal has their heart in the wrong place but isn't using their head. They're not bad people, they're just misguided and are saying the absurd shit they do because they truly believe it's helping people (i.e. wanting open borders, government handouts, censorship, etc) but they aren't actually thinking about it critically beyond surface level. Meanwhile the evil elites know this, and don't believe any of that shit, but see the aforementioned people as a means to an end, that people believe such insipid shit makes it easier for them to do what they want. So aforementioned elites just scream back at them "OH YES THIS IS RIGHT THIS IS WHAT GOOD PEOPLE BELIEVE YOU'RE A HERO ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT YOU LITTLE SOCIAL JUSTICE CHAMPION YOU!"
The really sad part is that most of these people being used are young and have been essentially brainwashed into not questioning this garbage, but many of them eventually grow up and realize they've been duped but by then the damage has already been done with their help.
>That still doesn't refute me
Stay with me here, big boy. IT. IS. NOT. MEANT. TO. How many fucking times do I have to repeat myself for you to get it through your thick skull? Not everyone is out to get you.
>he post user saved that isn't even his own words tries to attack that
>tries to attack that
For the third time, no, you fucking idiot. Take your pills you paranoid motherfucker.
>you THINK is backed by math
No it is literally math.
>even if we were to accept 95% instances of censorship in games are perpetrated by SJWs, that is not the same as 95% of SJWs being responsible for censorship
Now you are trying I think to argue something else and it seems to be defending or redefining what SJWs are which isn't the point. The point is most of them are the cause of censorship and you just agreed with it.
>but thats neither here nor there, because instead of denouncing 95% cases of censorship, we could denounce 100%
We do. Now the step is to identify who does it the most and act and its mostly leftist SJWs. The amount of semantics here by a guy who claims to be moderate on this stance is insane I must add.
>again you are obsessed with public image, you should be instead obssesed with the act of censoring games
No again, I am obsessed with math, statistics and science. If my boss was to say "user, our software is running like crap and we have two bugs causing it, one causing 90% of the problems and one causing 10%" I would say we have two bugs but one is clearly worse and worth more our time to address.
>and if your brilliant plan to "stop" SJWs involve censoring even more games, get that gay shit outta here you clearly do not care about the censorship of games
My brilliant plan is to identify them as the bigger majority reason for this and allocate resources accordingly to resolve the bigger perpetrator.
>who says im a moderate
It's very clear you are not is my point and have an agenda here.
>well our efforts certainly should go to censoring more games i tell you that
No our efforts should go with stopping the ones who cause these problems more as per basic mathematics.
cont.....
cont.
>i call every group responsible for censorship as supporting censorship, how is that dishonest, dishonest is claiming to be anti-censorship and support a particular kind of censorship
The dishonesty is not accepting that one side does it much much more and thus trying to paint them equally at fault here is dishonest. I agree both are somewhat at fault but one is at fault much much more and that should be stated and addressed accordingly.
>wrong, if you have to know, im libertarian, i defend personal freedom over everything else, also part of the reason why i oppose censorship
I don't believe you one bit. If you were against censorship you would identify the majority root cause of it not make excuses for it.
Censorship in gaming is bad but left leaning SJWs push this overwhelmingly more than anti SJWs. A libertarian can easily agree with that last statement without adding caveats or buts or failing to identify who is worse here. Can you Mr "Libertarian"? spoiler......you won't.
what the fuck did your enter key ever do to you?
>Stay with me here, big boy. IT. IS. NOT. MEANT. TO.
Great so my initial point and argument still stands. Fantastic.
Fucking finally. Jesus Christ you're dense.
He did it too before me:Why you just shitting on me?
shill thread
stop posting this shit site
I like how low self esteem you are where you tried to refute me and I literally cuck'd you into abandoning your own argument. Never have I seen such low levels of test on this board before.
>What's political about mario kart?
The closer you are to first place the worse items you get.
>you tried to refute me
Oh Jesus fucking Christ here we go again.
You ooze low self esteem. Don't argue with people if you can't control your autism
I'm not being paid to read that crap so don't blame me for not telling one retard from another, nor am I some dispenser of cosmic fucking justice. You don't like being called an idiot, stop being one. Don't whine
>but moom, he do it dooooo!
Nobody cares. You're still being an idiot, even if you're being an uncreative one.
>Don't argue with people
I wasn't, dumbass. That's why I've been trying to tell you that for the past, what, seven posts, since you assumed that.
His post came first though and had a lot of enters and you bypassed his and whined about mine though. Why? It's not like the content upset your autistic ass and that's what you really are whining about? Stay on /r9k/ please where you belong. That containment board exists for a reason.
You were autist. You are one of these low self esteem weirdos who argues with people then cucks out when they reply to you.
>archiving OAG
>Why is liberalism such a mental disorder?
People by nature want to cling to the thing that requires less work. One side says we will give you the opportunity to do what you want you just gotta work hard the other says here is free shit also the other side is Nazis therefore dumber people will be attracted to the side that makes things simpler.
>there are actually people who think that if you tell the story from one point of view, that means you agree with that point of view
No fucking wonder movies and video games are going to shit.
These "people" cannot fathom the idea of even the most basic idea of having a villain protagonist or an unreliable narrator.
Gameplay has become ridiculously easy in modern games. Logically, the next step would be making the store ridiculously easy to follow.
>We're trying be apolitical with our 9-11 simulator.
>Who's to say who is in the wrong? The terrorists? The first responders? It's really up to the gamers.
I wish I could pee hard. I have a large prostate which means I will probably have prostate cancer so my stream is so slow.
>No it is literally math.
this math argument has a surprisingly low about of numbers behind it
>Now you are trying I think to argue something else and it seems to be defending or redefining what SJWs are which isn't the point. The point is most of them are the cause of censorship and you just agreed with it.
again, even IF 95% instances of censorship were caused by SJWs, that doesnt meant 95% of SJWs cause censorship
and you cannot prove the latter, so your analysis was wrong from the get go
but like i said, thats neither here nor there
>We do. Now the step is to identify who does it the most and act and its mostly leftist SJWs. The amount of semantics here by a guy who claims to be moderate on this stance is insane I must add.
please show me where i claimed to be a moderate
your logic is beyond absurd, id be like claiming, "well 80% cases of bites are caused by dogs, so clearly we have to kill 80% of all dogs"
>No again, I am obsessed with math, statistics and science.
and yet you misuse all three
you keep insisting on using guilt by association which is a fallacy, aka, an illogical form of reasoning, does that sound scientific to you?
>If my boss was to say "user, our software is running like crap and we have two bugs causing it, one causing 90% of the problems and one causing 10%" I would say we have two bugs but one is clearly worse and worth more our time to address.
100% of causes of censorship are caused by people who advocate censorship, maybe we should focus on that bug instead
>My brilliant plan is to identify them as the bigger majority reason for this and allocate resources accordingly to resolve the bigger perpetrator.
boy it sounds like you are larping as the smart guy, im a software engineer too pal
and to me it looks like you are inefficiently wasting resources because you misidentified the cause of the problem
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cont.
>It's very clear you are not is my point and have an agenda here.
my point is anti-censorship
boy you jump so quickly to conclusions is no wonder you employ guilt by association
>No our efforts should go with stopping the ones who cause these problems more as per basic mathematics.
i meant to say "shouldnt"
you know mathematics is not a magic word that makes your argument instantly correct, the incorrect analytics of mathematical data can lead you to the wrong conclusions, there are tons of examples of this
>The dishonesty is not accepting that one side does it much much more and thus trying to paint them equally at fault here is dishonest. I agree both are somewhat at fault but one is at fault much much more and that should be stated and addressed accordingly.
lets apply this logic to a small thought experiment, lets say we have two robbers who stole the exact same amount of money
however the family of one robber had not committed any crimes while the family of the other has a couple of criminals in it, should the person with criminal relatives be given a harsher sentence just because his "group" committed more crimes?
>I don't believe you one bit. If you were against censorship you would identify the majority root cause of it not make excuses for it.
whos making excuses? you are the one waving away instances of censorship just because they are committed by anti-SJWs
>Censorship in gaming is bad but left leaning SJWs push this overwhelmingly more than anti SJWs. A libertarian can easily agree with that last statement without adding caveats or buts or failing to identify who is worse here. Can you Mr "Libertarian"? spoiler......you won't.
and who are you the president of libertarians? the reincarnation of milton friedman? give me a break
fuck off retard
>this math argument has a surprisingly low about of numbers behind it
What do you want from me? Say it exactly as clear as possible so if I can provide it we lock it in and this prevents you from moving the goalposts which you will do 100%. If we can absolutely lock this in you cannot do that. (i've been waiting for this argument FYI)
>again, even IF 95% instances of censorship were caused by SJWs, that doesnt meant 95% of SJWs cause censorship
You are arguing something I am not arguing. Why the dishonesty?
>please show me where i claimed to be a moderate
I said you are moderate ON THIS STANCE and you are since you said both are equally bad.
>your logic is beyond absurd, id be like claiming, "well 80% cases of bites are caused by dogs, so clearly we have to kill 80% of all dogs"
No my argument would be 80% of dogs cause bites so we know which dogs to focus on and train better.
>and yet you misuse all three
How?
>you keep insisting on using guilt by association which is a fallacy, aka, an illogical form of reasoning, does that sound scientific to you?
look mr. redit fallacy man, I said multiple times your personal opinions are irrelevant to this so your attempt to play victim here is falling on deaf ears.
>100% of causes of censorship are caused by people who advocate censorship, maybe we should focus on that bug instead
Sure. Who causes the majority of them?
>and to me it looks like you are inefficiently wasting resources because you misidentified the cause of the problem
How? Explain? You love making baseless statements like this with no logic.
>my point is anti-censorship
Your agenda is to refuse to admit who is overwhelmingly at fault here for some reason......
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>boy you jump so quickly to conclusions is no wonder you employ guilt by association
I think you don't know what that fallacy means now.
>you know mathematics is not a magic word that makes your argument instantly correct, the incorrect analytics of mathematical data can lead you to the wrong conclusions, there are tons of examples of this
What did I say was wrong? Stopclaiming things I said are wrong and actually tell me why Mr. Engineer?
>lets apply this logic to a small thought experiment, lets say we have two robbers who stole the exact same amount of money
This has nothing to do with this argument. There is no equal fault here. Your analogies are getting worse and worse as this progresses.
>whos making excuses? you are the one waving away instances of censorship just because they are committed by anti-SJWs
You are for being a guy who claims he cares so deeply about internet censorship, so much yet can't even admit where it mostly comes from without adding caveats or false equivalencies. Yea we totally believe you.
>and who are you the president of libertarians?
I didn't say I was but a libertarian would agree with that statement and not make excuses to defend SJWs. Why do you liberals lie so much and it doesn't bother you? How much has the internet fucked your brains up where you do this so easily?
And we finally have something to talk about, amazing. Lets see, then.
You make a post You get a reply You say it's not relevant You're told it is You accuse me of trying to argue with you. This is the first time that comes up. You're told i wasn't >This repeats another six times, with this post.
You accuse me of trying to argue with you You're told i wasn't. Twice. You accuse me of trying to argue with you You're told i wasn't You accuse me of trying to argue with you I underestimate your autism and think I finally got through to you. You accuse me of trying to argue with you Exasperation You accuse me of trying to argue with you You're told i wasn't. You accuse me of trying to argue with you Again, that's now REPEATED six times. We've gone through this seven fucking times now, with the initial exchange. That's all that has been said, outside the initial picture. The picture that doesn't even fucking contradict your post in the first place. The picture that supports your fucking argument by giving you the actual fucking words for it instead of throwing around your stupid, passive aggressive little quotation marks.
Take your fucking pills and check into the schizo shithouse you absolute ass. Not everyone is out to get you. This is the last time I try to give one of you t_d retards a hand. Jesus fucking Christ I hate reddit. You monumental moron. You argumentative fuckwit.
control your autism
Because I saw yours, retard.
How is that even possible?
You need help user. Go outside.
>Agenda pushing interests have convinced both sides that centrists are only ever ENLIGHTENED high horse riding strawmen and are on a team of their own
>When in reality it's just someone who can reasonably listen to all sides of talking points and disagrees evenly with many of them and a lot of the time has suggestions of their own that are ignored because it isn't 100% one way or the other and doesn't serve the interests of those in charge.
"it doesn't refute what I said"
now with an actual argument preceding, and not just groundless accusations
seriously, get your persecution complex in check, that can't be healthy
Only for blops 4 and the game is such a disaster that made Treyarch to be recognized as the worst cod division at the moment
Shit
Was it autism?
No, that right there is the sunken cost fallacy in play. Compiling that is peanuts compared to trying to actually get through to the idiot. Wouldn't have replied to it in the first place if I knew better.
>persecution complex
Have you read the things you wrote? You can't accuse others of this autist.
Imagine thinking what happens on your bingbingwahoo machine changes the world
You just committed the being an autist fallacy.
having both sides is even more political than having only one
>you are the one waving away instances of censorship just because they are committed by anti-SJWs
That's what makes the "free speech" angle ironic: People like OAG celebrated the censorship of the Arthur episode and The Hunt and don't give a shit about the conservative calls for video game censorship that have persisted through the years because this was all a disingenuous proxy culture war. It'd the same reason GG had steam but actual right-wing calls for censorship go without much thought.
It's the same line of reason of the term "virtue signalling". The act of showing a virtue wasn't the problem; it's actually celebrated when it's something you agree with, it's just a dishonest way of saying you hate anything that makes you think of liberal politics.
Left wing fags support status quos too, faggot. They just want a different one than the current setup.
Does this validate what SJWs do? Are what SJWs doing a problem? Can you acknowledge SJWs do it more or are you also going to play stupid too?
Yes, I've actually read our fucking conversation. Mindblowing, isn't it? People really do that. They read the fucking posts they're replying to.
It's not a complex, you're one person and it's explicitly what you are doing. Being told that someone wasn't trying to argue with you, and insisting that they were, is an accusation. One you repeated seven fucking times, with no supporting argument nor evidence beyond the initial picture which didn't even contradict what you were saying (and wasn't meant to, clarified explicitly, 7 times).
You are insane. Insisting seven fucking times, for an hour, that someone's trying to get to you just for daring to address you, when you don't even have an initial fucking reason to assume that, is insane. You're 100% off your rocker. Batshit insane. Writing on walls, pet-eating crazy. You genuinely need help or supervision.
SJWs don't troll with free speech rallies so no, they aren't as bad considering how uselessly loose the definition of "SJW" has become.
I have bought and played through every single call of duty campaign.
I have played the multiplayer in like 3 of them.
The term isn't loose. Game companies want to make certain things in their own games and left leaning SJWs get triggered and upset. This is what we are talking about specifically. If you can't acknowledge they are an overwhelming issue then as I said before, you are a dishonest piece of shit unwilling to criticize your own "team". I voted Trump but he is a utter dumbass for saying gaming causes violence and wrong and needs to shut up. Did I just shock you? I supported a politician but I think he is insanely wrong on this topic. Is your leftist insect brain now broken upon hearing such a concept?
My my such the victim you are from me right? A stranger on the internet. Quite the persecution complex you got going there. I have no idea what you are bitching about now but most people arguing with me, dishonest, r_chapotraphouse visiting liberals like yourself do nothing but try to change the argument at hand and backpedal. One user said there weren't any anti trump stuff in games. Then he whined that 3 examples weren't enough. Then he said "get over it". You guys are fucking insane do you know that? Your text is all literally there. You lie and change topics and it doesn't bother you. This is why the word sociopath is being thrown around a lot. You fucks will do anything and I mean anything to "win" and I see this with the left arguing any topics, politics, gaming, sports, music fucking anything. Liberalism has rotted your fucking brains to insane levels.
You think you're blowing my mind with this shit, but you're still retarded with identity politics and memes.
I didn't expect to blow anything you clearly are too far gone.