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We are going to have to act if we want to live in a different world
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Do you actually command & conquer in Command & Conquer?
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>tfw Kane, former messiah and powerhead is now cucked and trannypilled
Yes
Yes.
"Command" is pretty obvious, and the mission map is divided into zones, like in Dune II, which you "conquer" upon completing a mission.
JUST DO IT UP
>tfw will never be able to join the Brotherhood of Nod and serve Kane
it hurts
I'M A MECHANICAL MAN
>No word on the remaster even being close to done
How fucking shit must EA be? Could have easily knocked out C&C, RA1, Tiberium Sun and RA2 for easy $40 each.
>each
cuck
They've released like 2 pictures and they both look pretty bad/low quality. Not exactly super hyped. No idea what's taking them so long either. Petroglyph literally releases an RTS a month
PEACE
THROUGH
POWER
It's like a ass-cheap abysmal model miniature, almost like fucking plastic toy. Fucking bunch of underpaid third world programmers and designers outsourcing everything
APB got those 3D recreations of RA1 vehicles pretty fucking spot on, why not use it as inspiration?
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THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND
>Petroglyph literally releases an RTS a month
They haven't released a single decent high budget RTS since 2007. I'm not exactly hopeful the C&C remake will turn out to be good. Higher resolution videos would be appreciated but I'm sure EA managed to lose those like they did with all the Blade Runner data.
YOU'RE FEELING OF HELPLESSNESS IS YOU'RE BEST FRIEND, SAVAGE
IS UNFOLDING VERY QUICKLY
>YOU'RE
The power of pure intellect.
thready reminder that Tiberian Sun was the height of CnC
RA2 fags need not apply
Kane lives in Death
gibs zero hour its own ip
C&C 3 is really good
TS > RA2
no, not really
Tiberium > Red Alert > Generals
It's about as shit as RA3 and C&C4. C&C died with Renegade and Generals.
Look, you can not like Red Alert 3. You can even not like C&C 3.
But don't compare them to C&C 4. There is no comparison and you lose all credibility to put them anywhere near each other
They're all the same.
>It's like a ass-cheap abysmal model miniature, almost like fucking plastic toy.
They're obviously going for the starcraft/mobile-shit kiddy look, which they assume will appeal to zoomers. Did you actually expect EA to do something right?
>t. child who has never played any of them.
More like it's going to be released on smartphones as well
inb4 it's going to be released solely for phones in Rivals manner
Yes... the child...
I have a lot of nostalgia for the n64 version, i played it a lot as a kid because we couldn't afford a pc. Good times tried to play it again but the controls were so shitty, not sure who i managed to play it as a kid
>Generals
>Has anything to do with C&C but the name
See, that's how I know you are full of shit. Generals is a boring piece of shit that doesn't deserve to carry the name. C&C3 is an excellent final installment to the Tiberium story.
As I said, C&C died with Renegade and Generals
>the last few missions in both GDI and NOD campaigns
son of a bitch game
nice music tho.
I wish they didn't botch sci-fi artstyle of Tiberian Sun
C&C3 feels like it's set during TD or even generals but with tiberium.
>botch sci-fi artstyle
>Tiberian Sun
Huh?
Same could be said about Tiberian Sun that it botched the original CW/Gulf style of military design
Like, it's merely 30-40 years since the events of Tiberian Dawn. You don't just go fully equipped army of walker tanks, space stations and railguns in the horizont of just few decades, even if refining tiberium provides more than enough resources than conventional means would ever achieve
What's the point of remastering the most barebones of C&C games
> You don't just go fully equipped army of walker tanks, space stations and railguns in the horizont of just few decades, even if refining tiberium provides more than enough resources than conventional means would ever achieve
During the 20th century western militaries went from cavalry and horse drawn carts to armored warfare, jet fighters, strategic bombing, cruise missiles, IR night vision, Nukes etc. in 45 years.
I'm pretty sure that a revolutionary source of energy and materials would speed up technology somewhat, my friend.
Simplicity and low number units means that it's cheap to make and the lack of memorable characters means that people won't get upset if they redo the FMV stuff poorly with in-engine cutscenes or just drop it entirely.
You can't kill the messiah.
unless he gets sold off to ea
Yet not even both of the world wars and cold war managed to poison soil of whole major areas on all continents and make them completely uninhabitable, mutate and kill hundreds milions of people as capable workforce for this sudden progress and such societal discourse that spiralled down into globally everpresent terroristic organization that aims for spreading tiberium and generally pushing further the aformentioned problems
Just ain't feasible in my autistically rambling mind famalam
Why would you ever make a walker replace your MBT?
>hey, why dont we replace these vehicles that have a low profile and can traverse most terrain with a bunch of tall walkers that have giant glaring weak spots and can easily be taken out with a rocket to the legs?
are you gonna test your luck on craters and deep cracks in a mbt?
great shot
returm to base immediately
damn thats pretty fucking cool
>Why would you ever make a walker replace your MBT?
Why not just replace everything with hover tech?
It's a tradeoff, as it is with much of the arms design
>higher profile for better awareness in uneven terrain and point of fire from above is much better at penetrating usually weaker armor on the top of conventional vehicles
>walking motion is also better in very uneven terrain if you can easily move your centre of gravity instead of dispersing it
>walker legs are arguably better at handling damage than tracks just cuz of much more mass and possibilities to armour them
More of a question is shitty decision of mounting the gun on a one prefered side of the tank instead of centering it. Firing the Titan's cannon while walking the tank might cause some serious directional and locomotion issues
why does that midi guitar give me Advance Wars vibes?
Tiberium spread rapidly by itself, even without the help of Nod, but Nod definitely accelerated it's growth.
Also, Nod was already well established as anti-capitalist insurgency well before tiberium turned up. Then when it did turn up and started fucking up 3rd world countries, the GDI did almost nothing to solve the problem, while nod started giving poor people everywhere super technology, hence why they exploded in popularity.
Missed opportunity there not remastering Red Alert 2 with some of the higher quality mod content as a bonus.
>the GDI did almost nothing to solve the problem
Then what the fuck is the whole Tiberian Dawn Nod campaign conquering Africa? Sure, not canon, but the presence of GDI counteraction is still apparent even if the Nod line of story did not canonically happen
I'll never understand why they didn't give the titan a secondary weapon like a rocket launcher or the massive autocannon it has in the pre-renders. Sure they wanted to give the missiles to the hover tank, but they could have come up with something, especially considering that the tictank got that cool deploy function. At least it's better than the dogshit "titan" and "wolverine" from tiberium wars though.
Poorfags/third worlders cant see the bigger picture
Gentlemen, it's a nuclear device!
Well, Titan can shoot over walls and terrain
looks fine to me
GDI did almost nothing to solve the problems caused by tiberium on the local population. The thing about GDI is that they're literally a one world government imposing their will on the third world and "democracying" the shit out of them, while also doing absolutel nothing to help people being displaced by the wars and tiberium.
This is why Nod increases in popularity over the course of the franchise, they're essentially that universe's ISIS but dealing with a global level imperialist occuption and have a highly charismatic leader whose message resonates across borders and cultures.
It's a remastered, not a remake though.
I guess they might do a reboot with realistic looking units later, if this thing will be sucessfull enough.
In any case i'm glad it's westwood people who are working on these games again.
NO MERCY
PEACE THROUGH POWER
Here's the thing - there was a heavy amount of realism in Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert 1. It was diminished in Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2, but the pictures for each unit/building look realistic. Just take a loot at pic related.
I'm kind of worried with what EA is going to do with this remaster. It feels like Starcraft 1 remastered all over again.
At least they aren't touching TS
Yeah well i used to play the DOS version and in fact i always hated these updated icons on your pic, because they did not represent the units as they were in the game.
This realism you're talking about was unnecessary.
Fuck, now i'm rewatching it again. I like that people are still passionate about C&C series. So much fucking soul.
i watched that ars technica one before
they had some clever people at that company
i need to watch the other 2 now
>Tiberian Sun was the height of CnC
...aesthetics, world-building and creativity in general. TibWars improved about as much as it broke.
What about all of the cutscenes?
What about all of the other not-ingame art?
It's not just the icons. Original C&Cs pushed for this pseudo-realism/believeability, and while much more fantastic and borderline bonkers in the later titles, it still kept sort of plausibility level instead of going full meme-tier bullshit like in RA3
I saw first two. Gonna watch the third one, thanks.
I played this game on the N64...it was great and terrible at the same time
holy shit i used to rent that version all the time because i could never find it in any other store
what a fucking fantastic and terrible experience it was
>TS cutscene plays
>Crowd starts chanting peace through power with the video
>Frank puts on a nod uniform to get on the synth
>No Mercy plays
One vision
One purpose
>Muh brown on brown
>Muh awful mech designs
Tiberian Sun easily has the second worst art direction in the series. No idea how anybody can be nostalgic for that.
it was full 3d on the n64 versus partial 2d/3d on the other versions. Interesting attempt to push 3d graphics to the max and port it over.
>that pic
Really reminescent of Blitzkrieg or Sudden Strike quality of game objects. Fucking amazing
>1:18
Beautiful
>C&C4 art
>Bad
That one track that Klepacki did for Lethal League sounds like an Advanced Wars song too
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>did for Lethal League
but he didn't, it's from his album Rocktronic
*Ahem*
MUSKET TRAINING FINISHED
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Ammo compartments.
However, a minigun on top for protection against harpies/venoms would be just right.
I've had this game for a decade and still never played it
NICE
how can one man have so much charisma?
Could be worse user
Not gonna lie. There was a unique but cool feel driving the high tier vehicles in APB and Renegade.
10/10.
I'm happy you made this thread user.
Why does he need a lever when he is connected into the tank torso?
>realism
>Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert 1
user, what are you on?
based
cringe
RA2 looks much better than TS, TS units are ugly as fuck
Play it bro, its cheesy and fun
RA3 is kino fuck the haters
C&C threads are one of the only reasons I still occasionally lurk Yea Forums
Have a bump
Why the fuck do companies think remasters need new models, textures, visual filters out the ass and so on?
What we need is a game being playable on a contemporary OS, uncapped framerate, responsive controls, windowed/borderless options, configurable hotkeys, zoom levels, build queues, waypoints and so on.
Fuck graphics. They can be nice to have but are literally the last thing you should worry about.
Isn't OpenRA thing you seek then
no. enjoy your new graphics and one button mouse controls
Best song:
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the live version here is good too
>Hell March parts 2 and 3 kick in
god damn i wish i could have been there
OpenRA isn't RA at all, it's a bastard child that looks like its made by Starcraft 2 fans. The units are totally different, the build order is different, the animations and sounds are different, I don't know why they call this game RA at all other than to ride on the back of its reputation.
If you want to play old C&C today, you need the originals with the directdraw patches, such as the CnCnet or protableRA versions.
Why did he do that retarded pose, fucking hell.
For me it's industrial
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Don't you dare insult the Messiah
Its an abomination. Infantry unit sizes are messed up. They couldn't just mess with the move speeds. But at least it werks.
Source on that Yuri backstory claim
>Fuck graphics. They can be nice to have
Fuck graphic overhauls in general. I want the original aesthetics. It's the main reason why I won't buy the AoE 2 remaster.
never meet your heroes
Isn't that just parody though?
this man is a fucking treasure and anyone who says otherwise is a damn fool
I got chills when I saw that guy near the end of "No country for old men"
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love the atmosphere in tiberian sun
music, visuals, units everything feels near-futuristic, bleak, depressing and dangerous
How about RA Classic mod for OpenRA
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WHEN
It's parody on Shakespeare's play Twelfth Night
Don't let the thread die nodbros
PEACE THROUGH POWER
Your Messiah is a tranny, see
Last September dummy.
peace
Great shot!
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JUST DO IT UP.
no Reborn? fuck you too.
Reborn was awful user
It is legit after my time with the game. Can't judge something I haven't played.
the Shakespeare work that I personally think doesn't get adapted enough.
Just going off the way it looks I'd assume it would outrange a tank due to the longer barrel.
The advantage doesn't become clear until CNC3:KW.
If a structure is between units A (walker/mech) and B (tank), walker A can shoot tank B from behind the structure. Too bad they never had a tall mech that just had machine guns and could fire from behind buildings. Would be good against infantry and Scrin. And would be a good alternative to Zone Raider Hammerheads. TS Wolverine doesn't count. Its short.
I assume this is also why Tick Tanks in TS could deploy. Though that was done more to boost range and increase defense, I think.
Threadly reminder that Tiberium Essence is great. 2.0 is most likely still in alpha so grab 1.6, you can play every campaign with it, even.
oh shit im about to do that right now
fucked up that this mod has apparently been going since 2008
It's not fucked up, it's a one-man effort. He refuses to seek help so as not to compromise his vision or something. So far it works out, though.
im glad he added the forgotten
it was a crime that they completely wrote them off for the main game
mommy tulsi theme tune
I would have liked RA3 much more without the forced co-op.
RA3 went too much for silliness, besides Yuri was a 10 times more badass faction that the japanese live action role playing society
The Commander's Challenge in the DLC completely removes coop
>t.enemy of the empire
Fuck off reddit
Your wojacks will forever be cancer.
Tiberian Dawn was tehcnically grounded in the fact that a group like GDI could be considered real as an off shot of UN peace keepers.
Also the fact they hey used real actors for their unit portraits.
Don't forget that the maintenance requirements would be off the charts with that many moving parts.
>Also the fact they hey used real actors for their unit portraits.
It would have helped if they had made up their minds beforehand what weapons they were supposed to be carrying before they took the pictures.
A-fucking-men! They are broken as hell in 2.0, though. But really fun. Put four witches in a bloater, that's something.
GDI GO HOME
>Minigun Infantry
>Minigunner
2 votes for minigun
>M-16 rifle
>pic related
2 votes for rifleman
>5.56mm chaingun
1 vote for chaingun
>A Calico pistol carbine
>COMMANDO
>ARMOR: NONE
>COST: 1000
>SECONDS TO PRODUCE:67
>RANGE: LONG
>WEAPON:SNIPER RIFLE AND C-4 EXPLOSIVE PACKS
>The Commando is part of the GDI Elite Forces Unit. This unit uses a Raptor 50cal. assault rifle with suppressor that is able to take out infantry units from extreme range. In addition, the Commando carries C-4 explosives. When placed in enemy structures, these explosives will level the target structure in seconds.
He can snipe you left handed with a shot gun. There's a a reason he got promoted to commando.
I say we post these on /k/ and trigger someone.
You're 14 years too late for that kid.
Already here bossman. Not triggered just because it was the 90s and a lot of k grew up on cnc.
You did remember to save Carter and his gunboat convoy by not having them appear until after you destroyed the obelisk of light, right?
Wait what, their was an optional choice in game?
And for some reason the Nod profile is identical only they changed "chaingun" to "M-16" like they should have done to begin with but he's still called a minigunner and gaaaaugh
Maybe?
Were C&C manuals always hideously wrong? I remember in Generals it said the Red Guard could use their bayonets at close range.
LIKE HELL THEY COULD.
After a certain point in I just cheated to spam nukes on everything to win.
I like these games, but I am not good at them.
Despite not playing for over a dozen years, I still remember the nuke code from the original game by heart thanks to how often I had to fire it off in a row. A single one doesn't do as much as you'd expect.
Manuals were often written well before the game was finished, which is why readme files usually had last minute corrections in them.
increase fear and suspicion
PERHAPS YOU NEED ANOTHER SHOT
>RA1 soundtrack didn't use any quotable voice clips so it never gets posted as much
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literally made that pic an eternity ago before Yea Forums even complained about reddit
seek help for your autism
>before Yea Forums even complained about reddit
you know how i know you're a fucking newfaggot
wojak didn't become a thing on Yea Forums until 2012
Yes, and that pic has been posted in countless c&c threads for many years, and you're the first one to complain about it.
I've been here since pre 2010, calm your shit and focus your rage elsewhere.
>Infantry unit sizes are messed up
Funnily enough this is a problem in the original Red Alert 95 too. For some reason when they ported it from DOS to Win95 they patched in shittily scaled up infantry graphics. Compare to regular C&C Gold
do we know what they say in hell march? I wanna say I saw Klepacki do an interview where he was asked about it, but I don't think he gave a definitive answer.
>The commander's shout was a sampled voice Klepacki discovered and found appropriate for the track. While it is not known what exactly he is saying, the most common theory is that it is "Die Waffen, legt an!" (translated as a command to ready weapons in German).
god damn i love that guitar
I love the Unicron on the speaker
SOUL
LESS
They're gonna remake Tiberian Sun into a soulless mess, everything is gonna be turned into Soulless garbage
Not you tankfags in this thread too
Fucking soul.
Modern devs can't make stuff like this.
Where can I get ahold of the originals? No remasters or fucking remakes
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No they will delete the originals and only make the remasters available and then charge new game prices for it.
Fucking clown world. I want the ORIGINAL you mongoloids.
I don't want to just play some online version. I want it all, FMV, menus etc.
I want the original executables.
There's a compilation called C&C: The First Decade that has all of that. They will still require patching if you want to run them on Windows 10.
Again, cncnet for TD, RA, TS. Those have FMV, menus, fixes to run on modern systems.
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95, red alert and tiberian sun are free
>not recognizing twelfth night
alt-right really are a bunch of uncultured retards.
pirate "c&c the first decade"
for me it's
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While i am at it, i am asking this song from the prodigy
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Really sounds like a song from The games, but i want the opinion of (YOU) about that.
Is RenegadeX still alive ?
I played it on release and it didn't feel like the original. It lacked SOUL so to speak
>sandbags on a watchtower made of stone
Why
terrible bait, you fucking retard
Thank you for showing me this
Having a nostalgia trip with some friends now
>Guard tower with thin wooden walls and sandbags for protection from light projectiles: bullets, shards, etc.
>Tower with stone walls that already are strong enough to offer decent protection, yet they still put sandbags there.
I still don't get it. And I hope it wasn't me who hurt you.
I second this. I kinda agree with the other user saying it's kinda soulless however I need my renegade fix so I'll settle for X. Is it alive?