What are some good star trek games?

ST 2-4 are worth seeing in order, don't bother with #1. 5 and 6 are good too. Never watch ST1:"The motion picture"

The game is very simple, you are given the most basic ship of your chosen time period and you must please the admiralty of the federation by earning prestige, however there are some caveats to how you go about this. One, you can choose which missions to embark upon so long as you have worked within the last week. With this power you choose " shipyard defense " where you lay about and let your allies do most of the fighting. Once you have sat on your ass earning the dole you can finally upgrade to a functional ship that suits your aesthetic. SFC2 has a very intricate and pleasing combat system that will have you coming back. Everything from macross missile boats to experimental plasma steam rollers or Nuclear cannon fish aircraft carriers and my personal favorite Troop transports. Marine ships allow you to send your heavily armed crew members onto enemy vessels once their shields are down and plant bombs, disable subsystems or even capture the ship in its entirety for free. ** SOVIET ANTHEM ** Allowing you to sell this vessel or keep it as part of your own growing fleet, SFC2 really has it all.

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The destroyer and light cruisers are the most comfy ships

fite me

" But Sseth! " you might say, " The destroyer and light cruisers are the most comfy ships! " and to that I say. But of course, with a small wolfpack of these nimble vessels you can dab on slower vessels by chipping away at their shields and hull when they recycle power or by dropping a field of mines entirely around them before they can escape.

Star Trek Armada 2 is probably the best Star Trek RTS available aside from mods for other games. Just make sure to up the hull points in the options or the ships blow up too fast.

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Starfleet Command series
Star Trek Armada 1 and 2
Starfleet Academy for the SNES
Star Trek Online
Star Trek NES

>Never watch the ST1: "The motion picture"
>implying Trek by way of 2001 isn't the best one

>play Command III
>gather two ally ships to aid in my conquests
>they spend several missions with me, barely getting damaged and doing excellently with targeting and helping capture ships and stations
>go into next mission
>both of them spontaneously self-destruct immediately as the mission begins
And this shit happens ALL THE GODDAMNED TIME. Did the deliberately program the AI ships to blow themselves up so you'd be forced to get new allies every so often?

>Just make sure to up the hull points in the options or the ships blow up too fast.
Dude you can do that? That's an actual option?

>nutrek

I remember it being an option. At the default setting you could sneeze at a bird of prey and it would blow up.

>pic related
>nutrek
user

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command 3 had a lot of bugs to include soft-locks

And they couldn't be bothered to patch that shit?

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As a Trekkie with two Trekkie parents, I understand how awesome this was for them back when it first came out, but god damn is it so slow and boring. I really like the opening and the first look at the refitted Enterprise, though.

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>5 is good
>don't watch 1
What the fuck. 2>6>4>1>3>>. TNG movies are all different flavors of trash

First Contact was awesome. Except for bringing the Borg Queen into the canon because it completely went against everything the Borg were about, but the studio heads were adamant that audiences would find them boring as "space zombies".

>rating 3 below 1
dafuq is wrong with you?

Borg are a community of twitch streamers. Everyone is simultaneously streaming to each other and commenting on each other.

Nah, twitch streamers have far more emotions and personalities.

>ruining the Borg and Picard's character forever in exchange for a mediocre action flick
Nah, First Contact is shit. Generations is the best TNG film and that's saying A LOT

Yeah I remember pretty much everything from the basic shipyard just exploded on contact, only the advanced shipyard stuff could survive a volley from a fleet, let alone a starbase Neat to know that there's an official option to make lower tier ships viable.

It's the least bad of the four but it's still not good
3 is just a big long excuse to get Spock back and isn't very interesting imo. For as dry as TMP is it still has interesting moments

Where I start with Star Trek?
Just fuck it all and try to watch everything?

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>tfw in order to play the campaign in modern systems you have to install the game modded and then use another mod to unmod the game to its original state

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Okay, I'll have to fight you with that comment about Generations, because even Insurrection was more enjoyable than it and that's the worst of the TNG films.
>ruined Picard
I understand the Borg being ruined, but how was Picard ruined?

Voyager Elite Force is a great Quake 3 era FPS. It has a good mix of chilled out ship exploration and chatting with the crew between the FPS missions, which are full of spooky aliens

Not this time.

Honourable mention for A final Unity.

Point and click, but with surprisingly in depth battle and engineering management. It's also literally a 5-episode or so arc TNG story voiced by everyone from TNG.

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I would say TNG or TOS

I must be the only person who really likes III and has it third on my favorite list behind II and VI.

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TOS, the TOS movies, TNG, and finish up with DS9. After that, you're free to dabble and watch whatever you like, but do keep in mind that the rest has a lower average quality.

Its also "what if voyager was suddenly dangerously competent and less asspull". Practical pre-defense in hostile space, making a gun that can actually reliably shoot borg etc.

Fuck Klingons.

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Watch the original series, see if you like it. If you can't stomach how old it is, watch Next Generation. WATCH ALL OF IT. Do NOT fucking listen to any "bbbut the first season sucks!" shitters. Yeah, it's rough compared to the later seasons. Doesn't fucking matter, it sets up the groundwork and still has some good moments. There is only one episode you get the A-Okay to skip, and that is Sub Rosa. If you power through that you get to skip one other episode of your choosing.

The movies can frankly all be skipped if you don't give a shit. Then watch Deep Space 9, it starts just about as TNG is finishing up and has some overlap. After that you're done. If you hate yourself, watch Voyager. Watch Enterprise as well if you want some Quantum Leap and a "Trek before TOS era Trek" that does it much better than fucking Discovery, which you should avoid at all costs.

That's fair and your clips are definite highlights of the franchise in general. I just wasn't personally invested in the Kirk's son plotline and the "We gotta get Leonard Nimoy back in and ruin the great ending of II" narrative.

sage
It's remarkable how much stuff of important stuff goes down in 3:
>Kirk's son killed
>Klingon bird of prey introduced (which production will reuse through most of the TV series years later)
>Genesis fails so you know why the Federation isn't just mass producing perfect planets
>they blow up the fucking Enterprise
>and of course Spock is back
It's definitely a bit slow before they do the Enterprise heist, but I have fun with it. Not as good as the films that surround it (which form their own sort of trilogy) but it's way more solid than the other "odd number" films.

Undiscovered Country is forever my favorite.

Thank you, anons.
I don't have the slightiest idea of what these acronyms are for, but I will look into it.
Now that is an answer my lazy ass wanted. Thank you, user.
With this incentive I will watch the original series and go from there with the advices from all you glorious people.

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Why is Discovery so bad?

I see you are a man of fine taste as well.

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TOS Crew movies are worth it, TNG ones are pretty shit but I enjoy First Contact even if it is WoK II: Jean-Luc McLain's borg adventure I wouldn't say it's good just liked it. Never seen or intend to see the reboot movies.

Because it's written by people who want to make a Star Trek for the CW generation. It's a bad action show in a Star Trek skin

It's Star Trek as written by people who hate Star Trek, but think they understand enough about it that they can still make something the masses will eat up, because they think Star Trek fanbases are just Star Wars children with a different name instead of seventy year old grizzled boomers who don't give a fuck what you think will sell 'cause it's all fuckin' shit, now back in my day, we had the goddamn Enterprise, no A, B, C, or D.

It's also ugly as fuck and shot like forty minute continuations of JJ Trek but that pales in comparison to how fucking terrible it is at its core.

What fans of the series think of the JJA movies?
Just curious about, never watched anything from ST, not even said movies.

Pretty much all of this. That said I do reccomend the TOS crew movies at the very least some of them but you can sprinkle them in whenever if you really want more at the end. But yeah great awnser especially the don't skip shit (sans sub rosa) in TNG part.

Show Picard passed up on a chance to kill every single Borg in the universe because he saw the potential for a better future for the Borg in Hugh

Movie Picard is just REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I HATE THE BORG! ALL BORG FUCKING SHITS MUST DIE! REMOVE BORG FROM THE PREMISES! *fires tommy gun*

Generations is still shit overall, but Picard dealing with the deaths of his brother and nephew is probably the only semi-decent writing in the entire TNG film franchise.

>JJA movies
Movie versions of Discovery with MCU humor

What a great fucking character. DS9 was bomb.

Ignore the nigger lovers who belittle Voyager, you'd be missing out the most redpilled Star Trek series.

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Because they were designed to be as close to humans as possible. They have aging programs, they have the ability to dream, they have artistic aspirations. They were not designed to be robots, they were designed to be just like another human. Of course they'd have a dick.

It's just he stripped out Data's emotions because Lore went cuhrazy.

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>That holocaust revisionism episode

This is fake.
Right?

They're actually awful.

Based Tom Paris.

Breh unironically

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FLASH TREK BROKEN MIRROR.

This game was amazing, I am not even joking. If this was made now it would actually make money on steam. The sequels are good but they are REALLY unstable.

Tell me somebody else played these

Picard's obsessive perfection in FC was a pretty good way of giving a believable flaw to an otherwise pristine character, and could easily be explained as regret for his decision in I, Borg.

The Borg didn't really start to get ruined until we got those kids in Voyager, and their worst moment was still yet to come.

Dukat did nothing wrong

The queen ruined the borg

Absolutely not.
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Three minutes in.

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Do it for him.

pre season 7

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Actual Sci-Fi "villain" who did nothing wrong

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I assume you forgot about the two-parter where they found out when Hugh went back to the Collective he and a group of Borg that he managed to make become free will were severed from and cast out of the Collective, and then Lore took command of them and made them do evil stuff with their big scary new ship and instant-transmission technology. Picard learned there that trying to change the Borg simply wouldn't work.

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Still can't believe the Doctor managed to prove the holocaust was a hoax.
Also that episode with the Janeway concentration camps. Did she go too far? The nyreans just wanted to culturally enrich the Voyager.

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Oh wow.
Sorry for you guys.
The new series about Piccard is ok, though?
Fucking hell, I don't even watch this and now I am mad.
I hate liking things today.

A true hero.

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>The new series about Piccard is ok, though?

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>mfw the state of Star Trek.

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Oh shit.
I am trully sorry.

Is Star Trek the O'Brien of sci-fi?

So I lied, I cheated, I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But most damning thing of all, I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would. Garak was right about one thing. A guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant, so I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.

Computer, erase that entire personal log.

It's a fake!

You rang, sir?

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At least it hasn't slipped into the Mouse's cold necrotic hands. Trek can potentially be salvaged, that's more than can be said for Wars.

Is Space Above and Beyond the Tasha Yar of sci-fi?

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It's great because it's heavy on political intrigue and dark in it's own way without being overbearing since it still ends of that positive Trek note that peace and understanding can win out over fear and war (Roddenberry still found it too dark for his tastes and tried to have it canceled before he died). Also the soundtrack is fucking spectacular, really captures that uneasy feeling while maintaining notes of hope (and that cast sign off).
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Honestly every one of the original cast movies have great OSTs, even the ones that aren't great films as a whole still have some remarkable effort being put into the score.

The criticism applies to STD can be applied to the JJ films. It's written by people with a shallow understanding of Star Trek. For instance, they know the Khan meme (animated.ytmnd.com/) but don't truly understand the context, so they just shove a reference to it into the movie without considering how it was originally impactful. They pretty much use the most flanderized version of every character and sprinkled in some melodrama to broaden appeal to audiences who don't like science fiction to begin with.

However, in my personal opinion the third one is fun. It still has many of the flaws that the other two have, but the references have a bit more thought put into them.

>enterprise doesn't leave stardock until 40min of 120min movie

How's the wife, you goddamn mick?

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Legit the most overrated Trek episode. There's no actual grey morality; the whole problem is completely contrived and just an excuse to get that "badass" Sisko monologue at the end. Its only saving grace is that it's secretly a Garak episode.

No idea why you DS9fags don't jerk it to something good like Far Beyond the Stars, though I guess Brooks does his best to ruin it with his awful acting.

Being really slow is a universal complaint of TMP, even among the fans.

Far Beyond The Stars is also a highly-praised episode, you whiny dingus.

Just imagine Gul Dukat and Col. Hans Landa in a scene together.

>DS9
Star Trek: The Soap Opera/Babylon 5 ripoff

e l i t e
f o r c e

also deep space 9 sucks except that one episode when sisko gets stuck in time

So no one here cared for Bridge Commander?

And it's still the best series because it didn't use the Monster of the Week formula for its entire duration and had actual multiple interweaving plots and actual character growth and development. Hell, Worf had more development in four seasons of DS9 than he did in seven seasons and four movies of TNG.

counterpoint: DS9 is good and you suck, and that episode doubly sucks 'cause it made me cry

>getting emotionally invested in fictional characters
you had better be a girl

I thought it looked cool as a kid but never really
played it
My favorite is Star Trek: Borg

ds9 has about 5 good episodes and dukat became a comic book villain at the end
they fuckin blew it

>tfw no B5 game.

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Why watch or play anything if you don't care about it?

worf actually had too much development and became a walking joke, his character was complete in TNG and they fucked it all up

also dax is the worst fucking thing ever what a horrible concept and character
>HEY REMEMBER THE TIME WE DID THE THING

I cared about the themes and dangers in far away space Star Trek used to explore, not soap opera in space.

i won't argue that they fucking blew it with the last season
dukat did nothing wrong

when you realise the birthday present you always wanted maybe isn't so great afterall.

Start with TNG. Don't skip any episodes. I'm already on Season 3. Having a blast.

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So you only watched it for the aliens and explosions? You're watching the wrong Star X franchise.

>tfw you got everything you wanted, but it cost you everything you cared about.

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You're in luck... the first two seasons are the worst.

I didn't feel that way when i saw them. Maybe a couple of episodes in S1/S2 were duds, but i thought the show had a fairly strong beginning.

If Starfleet was real, i'd join a heartbeat. It's like the military but for cerebral-types, and it's not about just killing brown people for oil. But i'm a brainlet so they probably wouldn't accept me.

Another user with a good head on his shoulders. S2 in particular is very underrated and has some of the show's best episodes.

Great minds think alike. But so do shit ones.

This just makes me want to play sword of the stars again.
A shame sots2 was a massive flop and their studio only releases shoestring budget games and board games now.

Oh they're the worst of the seasons, I mean.
It only gets better. Once they establish some of the recurring characters, it's top fucking notch.

"Elementary, Dear Data" is one of the best. The conclusion (four seasons later) was very satisfying.

Production quality took a big jump in S3 along with updated collared uniforms. It's neat once you start noticing how drastically different the lighting can be, episode to episode (and director to director)

Why did Enterprise D have a small single room sickbay with only a handful of beds for over a thousand people?
At the very least shouldn't there at least be sickbays for both the stardrive and saucer sections?

I find it more surprising that they have just the one hallway.

>galaxy losing to three scout class ships on a 200yr old hull

Picard is former borg and was mindraped by them, he hates them to an irrational point. It is only the rest of his character that keeps him from going full Ahab.

3 has a lot of importance to it. It is the political ramification using the weapon that Genesis is. Pretty good action and suspense in ST fashion without going full action flick and then you've got mystery, mysticism, love and loss.

Neither Earth, nor the Universe were at stake in ST3, but Earth wasn't at stake in ST2 either.

Could be worse. The Enterprise was destroyed fighting a single BoP. The Yamato exploded due to a computer virus. The Odyssey got kamikazed by Dominion ships. The Galaxy class got fucked a lot.

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>Everyone I try recommend Farscape to think I have the worst sci-fi taste imaginable because season 1 is so bloody atrocious with saturday morning cartoon villains and thus promptly drop it before Scorpius even shows up
It's a special kind of sci-fi hell.

Gotta show how strong the enemy/dire the situation is by having the strongest member of the team be effortlessly stomped on by it.

Such is life in the Federation.

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You know what pisses me off? My life. Nobody gives me the respect i deserve, everyone ignores me, and boy is life shit anyway.

The only thing i care about is the holodeck.

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Because they're person simulators, not tasked-based machines.

This game

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Elite Force 1&2 are maximum comfy

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>It is the political ramification using the weapon that Genesis is.
Oh yeah that's a good point. It's great how the films build upon each other and everything just comes to a head in 6 after seeing the escalating tensions between the Federation and the Klingon empire across six films.

A lot of sci-fi shows have a bumpy start, it pretty much comes with the territory of being a science fiction fan.

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The New Horizon's mod for Stellaris is pretty great.

The Motion Picture is a pile of dogshit that has cool visuals but otherwise is one of the most boring movies ever. Voyage Home is a fantastic movie that really embodies Star Trek. First Contact is a good movie but probably not a very good Star Trek one.

Anyway the good Star Trek games I've played are:
>Elite Force 1 + 2
>Bridge Commander
>25th Anniversary
>Judgement Rites
>Klingon Academy
>Klingon Honor Guard
Then a couple that aren't great but are worth a look if you're a Trek fan like Away Team and DS9 The Fallen.

TOS is dated and kinda shit now. Start with TNG using an episode guide otherwise you might duck out a few episodes into season 1.

Then watch DS9 and Voyager. If you want you can go for Enterprise and TOS. They are all kinda different. DS9 is really the only one that really benefits from being watched in order, voyager a bit too. TNG you can kinda jump around once you're done with the 3rd season.

ah-coochie-moya my nigga

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Discovery would have been half decent if they did 2 things.

Make it based like 200 years after TNG/VOY
Keep the new Klingons but make them just a new alien race, not Klingons

Seriously that would have made the show so much more tolerable.

Oh yeah also make the doctor a real character instead of just a fag to show up in engineering to kiss a dude.

Plenty detected

They are Star Wars movies.

Voyager at least did its best to redeem them.

>I like science ;)

Picard show seems like it's gonna be trash so far. Anyone who feels differently is naive or has only seen JJ trek.

Bridge Commander. I miss it so much.

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Main sickbay was like half of Deck 12, it's big. There are also at least like 3 or 4 other sickbays in different parts of the ship, plus all the shuttle bays and cargo holds have triage supplies.

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Pure fiction

Why does O'Brien get put in this shitty situations that emotionally or physically scar him for life?
Do the writers hate him?

>social media meme
Hard cringe.

Because Colm Meany is a good actor

>he browses social media

DS9 would have been better without the religious/esoteric angle.

Fight me.

I don't. It browses Yea Forums.

Whats the red flags about it?

Hard disagree. It was a good way to show the interstellar future of humanoids wasn't a perfect utopia just because of technology and abundance.

wrong. It just needed a way better non derp conclusion

I gotta admit I do find myself liking Janeway more and more when I see her in videos
Nothing will ever beat Ben "Cardie Killer Sicko" Sisko
DS9 in general is definitely the darkest I've seen of Star Trek, seems much more serious

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If you watch the trailer they released there are a few things.

McGuffin plot line with some "chosen one" style girl who Picard needs to protect.
Pretty much nothing that looks like a federation ship.
Picard gets a rag tag crew on some junkass ship
Using the Borg/Romulans as politics fodder in probably a hamfisted way.
A shot that looks like it was filmed on the roof of a target in southern california, nothing futuristic looking about it.
Data looks like a marshmallow

Granted it was just a trailer, but they did a crazy action movie style trailer. Picard looks like he is a guest star in his own show.

I really wanted a show where Picard goes exploring the galaxy with Q and eventually joins the continuum.

Could still be good but I doubt it. I predict it's gonna have hamfisted modern political writing instead of the more subtle universal approach to modern issues earlier shows had.

DS9 is the best imo, almost tied with TNG. Both are great for their own unique reasons.

Voyager is a lot like TNG early on, but it becomes its own thing eventually and Janeway does some way more intense shit and gets put in way more dire situations than any of the other captains.

just watch TNG. everything after TNG is just trying to be TNG again. except for discovery which is ass cancer.

Voyager is the only show after TNG that tried to be like it, and they drifted away from it after a few seasons.

DS9 and Enterprise are nothing like TNG.

I looked at that, then had a double take at 'Cetacean ops' then saw the little drawn on dolphins...

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Yeah one of the early ideas was that the Enterprise had dolphins and whales onboard to help with navigation.

they use dolphins as navigation consultants, they are crew members, duh

Worf was a joke in TNG. He was supposed to be the bad ass, which meant to prove how bad ass whoever/whatever they were fighting that episode he would get his ass kicked.

>Borg Queen is an e-thot worshiped by the dickless drone plebs who actually do all the working and thinking
It all makes sense now.

Blood Oath is best DS9 episode. I has the 3 TOS Klingon commanders, plus singing and cling clang.

Elite Forces 1, Klingon Academy, Starfleet Command 1+2, Star Trek Armada 2

>Star Trek is now Discovery and no games
>Star Wars is now Disney and no games

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reminder that DS9 is kino because of how many Jefferies Tube scenes it has

There are four star trek pinball machines. The two most recent ones are amazing.

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pinballmap.com
Great pin. Combo shots.

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The Star Trek pin based on the new movies is also great. Smooth combos.

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The hugh rebel borg ship always felt like a wierd choice to me. I guess it was just the designers using the most recent show content.

Du
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Dukat
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Dukat meme

You know I think Gul Dukat is probably one of the best examples you could show for Lawful Evil. Horrible person, charming as fuck, had a specific set of standards to hold himself to so that when he did something terrible it was because he "had no choice".

Thats a semi official X3 Terran Conflict mod

based Mass Drivers