Is pay-to-convenience the new form of P2W that we should actively avoid?

Unfortunately, since the site owner himself is an ESL scum, there's no way anyone could talk him into banning them.

The only games that offer it are free to play games and shouldn't be playing those to begin with or complaining about the grind because they're FREE.

Absolutely awful justification. There are some amazing free games without cash shops or grinding. These 3 are still even being updated by devs and they're all over a decade old.

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>There are some amazing free games without cash shops or grinding.
Then how the fuck do they make money if there's no cash shop and the game is free?

I'd pay double

They accepted donations or sold merchandise, but making money wasn't top priority. They were either doing it to learn how to make a game or because they just really enjoyed doing it. Players also run their own servers for those games which makes them take up part of the expenses too.

Same, but I also want to lick her soles.
Stirrup stockings do ridiculous things to my penis. God I love being a footfag.

Pay-to-Pretty is the only acceptable model.

Only if the pretty isn't locked behind some gacha/lootbox.

This is why weebs need to be euthanized

i dont

Lord no.
It's rentals like korean mmos

Try to lifeskill in BDO without paying a single cent.

>pay-to-convenience
>pay to get more lives, games becomes harder and have better gameplay to keeps you playing
>git gut 1cc possible to not seem like a scam
>return of arcade style games
I'm okay with this.

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>Another gamer thread

It won't be that way and you know it.
You only have to look at the current crop of phone games for that.
You have levels which are not passable without a large amount of dumb luck or paying money.
That is how it will be, less skill and more chance, with an extra quarter providing another spin of the wheel.

Yes? It's a video games board, we are all gamers here buddy.

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A shitload of arcade games had absolutely awful design to get you to pump in more quarters. You can make a game difficult without monetization.

Nigger if you're paying money in a game that you already paid money for you're being a retard

I remember when everyone kicked off because Dragon Age Awakening was like £15 but "only had 10-12 hours of story content".
How much does £15 fetch you now?
No, it isn't okay if it's only cosmetics. No, it isn't okay if it's optional. No, it isn't okay if it's just for convenience. No, it isn't okay if you can earn all the stuff in game normally without buying it.
It's always retarded, it's always shitty, and it's always a slippery slope.
Fuck you faggots

I have never spent money on any kind of ingame purchase, DLC, etc.

>It's always retarded, it's always shitty, and it's always a slippery slope.
Yep. DMC4 had microtransactions but it didn't affect game balance because they were added in the special edition. DmC sold weapon reskins. DMC5 sold weapons the have unique functions. It's only getting worse each time and I fully expect if there's ever a DMC6 to have a completely unique weapon that you can only get by purchasing.

Bad history is supposed to repeat itself, can't the good one too?
Without monetization there is no incentive to make hard games, and all incentive to make them easy so that 60$ doesn't seems like a waste when plebs can't beat it.

I want to believe.

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Bad history repeats because of the actions of bad men.
Good history may repeat in spite of them, but it faces that much more challenge.

With monetization, you attract the attention of bad men. And they will pursue the avenue of worst resort.

In this case, they will make easy, yet addictive games which then have monetary roadblocks. Such as puzzle game levels which take dumb luck to beat.

>Without monetization there is no incentive to make hard games
Monetization makes the wrong kind of difficulty though. You have more of a chance of getting a fairly balanced but still difficult game without monetization.

let it die exists and it works that way but it's not neccesarily a good thing
when you hit a wall you can:
grind for hours to get resources+ wait through arbitrary timegates for the gear you need
bruteforce it with a shitton of lives
or actually torture yourself through a fight that's possible but by no means intended to be won

this shit right here

Thicc thighs and cute feet are the perfect combination.
Someone can post more of this stuff?

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Any form of Pay 2 X should be avoided at all costs.

>Someone can post more of this stuff?
There are multiple porn boards for you to see more, just go to them. I like it too but there's no reason to post it all over the vidya board.

based

>find artist on danbooru
>11 pictures

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