Switch exclusives: >Mario Odyssey >Smash Ultimate >The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Sequel >Splatoon 2 >Xenoblade Chronicles 2 >Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna the Golden Country >Snipperclips Plus >Fast RMX >Arms >Mario+Rabbids Kingdom Battle >Gal Metal >Kirby Star Allies >Mario Tennis Aces >TWEWY ~Final Remix~ >Super Mario Party >Pokémon Let's Go >Dragon: Marked For Death >Yoshi's Crafted World >Pokémon Sword & Shield >Animal Crossing: New Horizons >Fire Emblem Three Houses >Luigi's Mansion 3 >Town >Daemon X Machina >Yokai Watch 4 >Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 >Super Mario Maker 2 >The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening >Astral Chain >Box Boy! + Boy Girl! >Tetris 99 >Rune Factory 5 >Cadence of Hyrule >Mario & Sonic at the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games >Bayonetta 3 >Metroid Prime 4 >Shin Megami Tensei V >Steamworld Quest >Blaster Master Zero 2 >Mary Skelter 2 >Omega Labyrinth Life >No More Heroes 3 >Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Mega39’s
Nintendo exclusive multiplats/ports: >The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild >Mario Kart 8 Deluxe >Pokken Tournament DX >Fire Emblem Warriors >Bayonetta 2 >Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze >Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition >Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker >Code of Princess EX >Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate >New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe >Rune Factory 4 Special And more to be announced
Bloodborne is on PC too. Ps4 literally has zero (0) games
Nathan Thompson
Halo5 is the best MP fps of the gen and better than bloodborne.
Jacob Perez
>wahooo trash is 40% of the list >shit weeb games and ports >fucking tetris If there is anything worth playing on that list, than Switch emulation will be the way to play it, not the glorified tablet.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA keep on seething kiddo! I love watching you sperg out!
Ryan Young
Damn are you mad Switch is selling so well :)
Jonathan Sanchez
>Bing bing yahoo man >Bing bing yahoo man driving >Femboy man >Femboy man 2:the trappening >The same little monster game releleased 700 times with slightly different little monsters >A couple jrpg trash that only three weebs worldwide play >Shovelware Great library bro
>obligatory +10 for being a Nintendo product >obligatory +10 for being a Mario game >obligatory +20 for the Nintendo job offer
Mason Thomas
Ps3 is a sony console you dumbass
Bentley Cooper
So the ps4 has no games? Got it
Nathaniel Brown
>he has to invent scores and conspiracies just so he can cope.
Lincoln Brown
It has games: GoW4, Bloodborne, RDR2, Crash, "Sony exclusives" like TLoU etc and the whole multiplat library >inb4 multiplats only count for Nintendo!
Asher Richardson
Look I love my switch. But this thing has about as many games as ps3 did at this time. And you'd think a platform like this would attract a lot more new IP ideas for RPGs instead of kemco shovelware.
I'll still be getting all my multiplats on it provided they run with little to no difference like (hopefully) Crystal Chronicles, Alliance Alive, and some other shit I'm forgetting.
You're also missing SOS: FoMT.
Eli Foster
>GoW4 movie >Bloodborne on PC >RDR2 multiplat >Crash multiplat >TLoU movie Still zero (0) games. Try again
Cooper Ross
Imagine being poor and not being able go own all consoles so you shitpost and start console flame wars
Jordan Thomas
Its not a conspiracy once you realize video game reviewers are usually basedboys that worship Nintendo
>it has a cutscene >its a movie not a game Good one, you can parrot everyone else on this board and are physically incapable of forming your own opinions
Parker Carter
It's a movie because the game literally has zero gameplay. You barely touch the controller to watch the movie
Thomas Thomas
>half of games are butchered 60 $ Wii U ports shitchtards are worst kind of gamers.
>Worst kind of gamers are those who cant afford to play all consoles So ps4 owners
Isaac Walker
>Why don't you eat shit? Are you poor?!
Jose Morgan
Cope
Alexander Turner
You can call it a movie all you want, it won't make it reality.
Cooper Lee
All of those games are multiplats
Liam Cook
You get everyone else’s leftovers while you play your shit anime games
Parker Sullivan
You're also adept at parroting other people, there's a lot of that on this board. If you don't like any of the games on a specific console thats fine, doesn't mean it is shit or that it doesn't have games.
Carter Peterson
If I point out the multiplats in there they become unplayable on your console haha suck it snoy. Nintendo always wins
Connor Parker
Facts don't lie
Isaiah Gray
No but they're all better on different platforms so no reason to own them on ps4 Once again, ps4 has no games
Go create a thread that suits you more if you don't like this one sonytard I don't get why you retards click in these threads in the first place if you despise them so much
Who the fuck cares about what """gaming journalists""" think. They don't even like playing video games. That's why sony games are so popular: those are not games. Nintendo stole the game awards anyway with the Joker fighter announcement.
Eli Cruz
>8 hours of cutscenes in a 10 hour game >other 2 hours are spent walking to the next cutscene fucking yikes
Sebastian Hughes
You ok? Nice logical fallacy m8
Jaxon Myers
so is irrelevant? Glad we all agree on that
Nathan Davis
>t.never play the game
Christian Wilson
Joker? The Persona 5 sony exclusive character?
Aiden Fisher
I see actual video games in that image What is your point?
David Lopez
No need to watch in on ps4. I watch my sony movies on youtube
Alright, I'm done talking to you. Eat shit and die retard. You know its a video game, you're just purposely misrepresenting it for your own argument, which, btw, doesn't stand as an argument because of multiple fallacies. Kill yourself and your entire diseased bloodline you stupid sack of shit.
Austin Ross
Why would we want gaysona 5 on the Switch when we already have the superior jrpg Xenoblade Chronicles 2?
Cooper Thompson
You and every Nintendo faggot that uses game reviews to prove how good their trash is, yet won't accept the same reviews for Sony games. It pretty obvious what I am talking about.
David Hernandez
Good to see that the ps is for niggers and blacked posters
Leo Rodriguez
>getting this upset about toys for children You need help lmao
I'm seriously struggling to find a game in that pile that isn't a rerelease or multiplat.
Andrew Gomez
>bing bing wahoo is STILL, in 2019, the greatest vidya series of all time Feels good to be a Bing Bing Chadhoo.
Lincoln Kelly
oh really? I have never read about that. Can you quote where exactly I and every Nintendo faggot said that? Because I think you're pulling shit out of your ass
Just cave and buy the switch already. It's okay. It's not that expensive y'know? The only valid combo to own this generation is the switch + a gaming PC. Anything else and you chose incorrectly.
I thought you were finished talking to me? And now you're posting wojaks to cope with the fact that you act like a fucking retard online. You're not really helping yourself here
Blake Morales
the only thing that would really make me buy that jalopy from that list is the splatoon and the fast RMX and maybe yokai watch 4 if it wasn't because that shit machine doesn't even move it at more than 20 fps
and Rune Factory... no more heroes... well the truth is that it doesn't have a bad catalog at all what the heck. if only the console was not a fucking fisher price tablet. Seriously, everyone is having trouble moving their games well in that crap, even Nintendo itself. That console is a drag and every time they do everything more expensive even above
I have not given a shit about smash bros since 2009.
I even have a 3DS/Wii U and still didn't play the new ones on there. Why does Yea Forums still care about it? It's not even that complex of a game series at all. Other fighters are superior.
I don't get it. Why you posted pictures of yourself and quoted me.
Daniel Peterson
Threads like these remind me so much of the PS vita that it makes me feel sad. We literally had the same shit of people posting lists like this. The "i love my vita" shit got replaced by 24/7 "switch threads" aswell.
Aiden Jackson
>>walking down a hallway is gameplay So Zelda is movie. Got it.
Adrian Walker
heh gottem
Jaxson Scott
>Excuse me, open world exploration is no different from linear corridors
sad!
William Martin
>I was only pretending lol
Leo Butler
It's a good time to be an idort Grabbed a Pro to play P5 and while that was disappointing, Bloodborne was not. I'll probably go back to finish it when I'm done with my first Three Houses run.
Julian Bailey
>GoW has linear corridors >DMC is more linear than GoW but somehow it's not a movie Why do you make a laughing stock of yourself?
Blake Jenkins
Mario Tennis and ARMS should be free downloads with Nintendo Online; not only would it increase the value prospect of the program but it would increase visibility for those series and ultimately make them more popular such that Nintendo could potentially sell spinoffs or single-player DLC for them down the road prove me wrong
Jack Flores
who said anything about DMC?
Lucas James
Considering your logic DMC is more movie than GoW. Why are you so butthurt?
Brandon Allen
Uh not really
Thomas Fisher
How so? Any argument?
Adam Hall
I just said that walking down hallways is not gameplay, you're pretty seething rn lol.
Jaxson Brooks
In DMC and Zelda you walk down the hallways too. They don't have gameplay you idiot?
Lincoln Thomas
Yes but in GoW it's emphasized to a movie amount, Zelda isn't even linear my dense friend :)
Logan Moore
Practice abstinence
Jason Butler
>Yes but in GoW it's emphasized to a movie amount How so? >Zelda isn't even linear my dense friend :) GoW isn't linear either, you have a large amount of side locations and even worlds, also even if it was it doesn't mean it's movie. For example Devil May Cry or Vanquish are more linear than GoW and they are not movies. You must be 12 at best if you don't know what movie is user.
Josiah Jenkins
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Gabriel Rogers
do you see it mentioned in the list somewhere?
Gavin Young
F-zero when?
Brandon Rivera
>How so? Because of how much more focused it is
>GoW isn't linear either, linear level design, slow poke.
Sebastian Ward
this gen hopefully
James Cox
>Because of how much more focused it is GoW isn't more focused on corridors you idiot. You have open locations and buildings to explore. When I enter building that happens to have corridors too in every game it suddenly become a movie? >linear level design Read what I told you, retard. GoW doesn't have linear level design and even it has it doesn't make it a movie. Just admit you are mad that GoW won GOTY last year unlike your bing bing wahoo and I leave you alone.
Josiah Thomas
>GoW isn't more focused on corridors you idiot. More than Zelda
Daniel Watson
More than almost every non Sony action adventure
Ryder Lopez
so every non Zelda game is a movie? Spoken like a true Nintendo queer.
Sony showing Nintendo that they will never get Persona 5 and have to stick with bing bing wahoo.
Jonathan Anderson
Actually Tennis is going to be free next week for Yurop if you have a NSO account.
Benjamin Cox
The bottom right pic is sweet
Luis Barnes
Gameplay is where you, the player, have to make decisions about what happens such that you better your odds of success. Walking-simulator sections are just interactive cutscenes where there's no tactical or strategic decisions needing to be made, they're just something to keep you from falling asleep during a cutscene since nothing in the moment actually affects your long-term or short-term success
Landon Walker
That looks more like a retarded "adult" that picks on a kid
Nathaniel Morris
No it isn't It's a cutscene with minimal controller or mental interaction just so the player doesnt doze off It's like the ladder sequence in Snake Eater
Mason Brown
Permanently free? Or just a trial-run?
Carter Reed
At least you admit p5 is shit
Nolan Cox
>that worship Nintendo Huh? They hate Nintendo.
Gavin James
So far I've bought the following on the switch and I bought it for smash back in December:
Smash Ultimate - Got bored after about 10 hours and didnt play anymore.
Zelda BOTW - Found it really boring and monotonous compared to old zelda games but I did all the shrines anyways.
Mario Odyssey - Got bored after 2-3 hours and never played again but t be fair I never really liked Mario games. Mario 64 was the only one I ever bothered to beat and get all stars in.
Cadence of Hyrule - Hated it. Got bored after an hour and never played again.
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 - It was fun but not as good as the old ones. Played through it over 3 days and moved on. Not really something I'd go back to.
Fire Emblem Three Houses - Was massively surprised with this as I normally have weeb anime shit like waifus and whatnot but I found the game really fun. Marathoned through it over a few days and about 50-60 hours. Did Golden Deers route and considering doing the Blue Lions now.
No, you have full control of a character. This isn't cutscene. >enviroment change so it's a cutscene Nintendo audience I said he's forced to play bing bing wahoo, that's why he's looking into toilet.
It's a cutscene in essence since nothing about the player's control of the character matters. >hey man, I have this great new video game. It's called Citizen Kane. The way you play it is by hitting the play button on your DVD player, and then you're rewarded with a whole 2 hours of story!
Samuel Russell
>You said he was showing him Persona 5 on the ps4. No I said he's showing him that he will never get Persona and he will have to stuck with bing bing wahoo, which is quite a difference. I don't expect Nintendo toddler to have any reading comprehension or any other basic skills though. No wonder you "play" only kiddy cartoons instead of games.
Anthony Martin
Blessed Skelexbro
Nolan Rodriguez
>Switch exclusives: >Mario Odyssey stopped reading there. multiplats whose definitive versions are on pc aren't exclusives.
Bentley Long
>nothing about the player's control of the character matters. You have exactly the same control as any other part of the game, the difference is that location is just smaller at time. Take your pills already, it's only a game, you don't have to be so mad that won some award.
Caleb Jenkins
You missed the point the point is gameplay is defined by the player having to take in information from the game's visuals and sounds to make decisions on how best to overcome a challenge or solve a puzzle. In walking-simulator portions of games, sure the player is forced to interact with the game to progress the story but there's no decision making, no information being given that's critical for success. Sure, we can call it gameplay, but it's fucking terrible gameplay that drags the entire experience down
Christian James
>No I said he's showing him that he will never get Persona Hence the toilet. That's the only thing that could be a ps4 and Persona. Like I said you aren't good at this.
Eli Ward
k
Christopher Bennett
the guy who got attacked by his cat is opening a playstation
Cameron Thompson
No, because the difference is that there's nothing to interact with. You walk around but with no enemies to beat or puzzles to overcome, there's really no point for those sections to exist other than to force you to listen to Kratos and his son interact. In terms of the role it serves in the overall experience, walking simulators are more similar to cutscenes in terms of players' mental engagement than to combat or puzzle or exploration sections. The core here is what is the player mentally doing when they play a walking-simulator section? Are they trying to use the information on screen to figure out how to beat an enemy or solve a puzzle? No, they're just holding Up on the joystick while listening to a podcast of Kratos telling his son a story. The interaction the player has during these sections is incredibly shallow and pointless, what would be lost from just having Kratos walk on his own while the player put the controller down?
Luis Taylor
>Hence the toilet. toilet is allegory of bing bing wahoo games like I said. He can't show him Persona on Switch because it dosesn't exist. You still have problems at basic reading comprehension. >but there's no decision making Again, the gameplay is exactly the same. The difference is that location happens to be smaller at time. If I play Silent Hill and run through Midwich hallway it's suddenly movie? (or bad gameplay like you moved goalposts now). Cure your autism.
Austin Davis
>there's nothing to interact with. There is, you can find enemies, platforms, puzzles, items. If I run through desert in Zelda and don't have enemies to fight at the moment it's movie suddenly?
Logan Miller
I've got way more games on my Xbone and that shit doesnt even have games wtf are you trying to prove with that picture
Andrew Cook
Are you mistaking the walking sections where you're just listening to two characters interact with the rest of the game? Because I don't remember Kratos ever encountering an enemy while he was in any of those sections where he and Atreus just talk. youtu.be/RWcLjzdyMR0?t=625 You look at that scene and tell me there's worthwhile gameplay anywhere present
Julian Rogers
Anyone else ever notice that Wojack images (especially the "soi" kind) are just Yea Forums's version of downvoting?
Gabriel Williams
I was talking about gameplay sections, not cutscenes you idiot. Running/moving character os also gameplay, every action game has it you oaf.
Mason Lee
Running and moving during sections where the player has no control of the pace of progress and serves exclusively just to have the player hear exposition from other characters with no puzzles or enemies present might as well be cutscenes The difference with the Midwich hallway section is that the intent is different. The intent is to unnerve the player by leaving them with control in an area that happens to have no enemies but could, it's a fear of the unknown. In the walking sections of GoW, it's very clear that the player is never in any danger if two or more characters start spouting exposition. >Running/moving character os also gameplay, every action game has it you oaf. Yes, but when the point of running and moving isn't because the player has decided to go somewhere but the story is happening and wants the player to just listen to characters talk, then it serves the same purpose as a cutscene, despite niceties of giving the player full control with nothing to do.
Jeremiah Campbell
While the other user isn’t expressing their point well, you’re being facetious and missing the argument. There is a difference between a section of a game where something could happen but it doesn’t versus a section of a game where it’s very clear nothing of note is going to happen but the player still has to use their controls to do some mindless shit. The Snake Eater bit with the ladder is one such instance and while some people like it for the time it gives to decompress after a boss fight, most people would argue it’s closer to an informal cutscene than being actual gameplay where the player has to use their noggin. Similarly, there are many sections in GoW where, despite having full or partial control of Kratos, the game makes it very clear that there will Be no enemies or significant obstacles for a while and the section mainly serves to have the player listen to character dialogue. The usual method of having dedicated sections for character interactions is a cutscene, wherein you also have no enemies or obstacles to actively overcome. That’s the issue: intent of a game section vs the method used to execute on that intent
Adam Thomas
>where the player has no control of the pace of progress He exactly has control of the peace of progress unless you talk about cutscenes again. >walking sections What walking sections? I remember like 2-3 which lasted like 2-3 minutes during my 40 hrs playthrough. I never had a problem with that because I don't have ADHD and don't have to push run button for 40 hours. You are trying too hard user.
Anthony Davis
>it’s very clear nothing of note is going to happen So like running through empty desert in Zelda? Why do you like movies so much?
James Harris
>can encounter puzzles and enemies in desert sections
Levi Wright
>Yes, but when the point of running and moving isn't because the player has decided to go somewhere but the story is happening and wants the player to just listen to characters talk, then it serves the same purpose as a cutscene, despite niceties of giving the player full control with nothing to do. Just because voice acting is added it dosen't mean it's cutscene, lmao, it's exploration, you move character, you progress, fighting enemy isn't only gameplay. My god.
Liam Flores
>I can't encounter puzzles and enemies in GoW when I run through corridors
Matthew Powell
This thread devolved into greentexting greentext
Elijah Fisher
Sony Exclusives >The Last of Us >God of War >Bloodborne >Spider-Man >The Last Guardian >....uhhh
Small game selection but a good one nonetheless. Kinda sad all the weeb games are going to the switch since sony has its sjw foot so far up its own ass.
>tetris didnt snoyfags used to praise Tetris Effect until it went to PC, now they suddenly hate it LMAO
Eli Clark
>looks like it's gifted by their parents, likely still live at parents house >looks like it's gifted by their friends or bought it themselves, likely have a job and own their own place
Hmmmmm....
Ayden Clark
Sony killed Gravity Rush. They only want their big movie games. Expect even fewer games on the ps5
Don't you fags have anything better to do than consolewar shitpost
Brandon Garcia
>bloodborne >soul calibur >weeb Weeb games aren't just anything that's made in Japan, you realize this, yes? There is, in fact, a difference between Otaku and Weeb. Granted used the term improperly too
Kevin White
>this level of deflect he didn't even say he plays pokemon
Hudson Perez
Here we can see the Village Phenomenon. Villagers generate a fear of Otherness, but in reality interact little with anything that is Other. Instead, the consequence of fear of Otherness results in them turning on one another. The Villagers begin to draw arbitrary lines in the sand, abstracting their neighbors until they can convince themselves that fellow Villagers are in fact Others. This is continued until the Village is destroyed.
In times like this it can be difficult to follow the Prime Directive, but it is for the best to acknowledge when certain Village systems are unsustainable and let them consume themselves.
Christopher Edwards
he went pretty mad though when I mentioned OP's list. I asked first. Don't need to answer you when you didn't answer me sperg. Still haven't answered my question, don't care about your autistic definitions.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
That's a PC game
Evan Sanders
>Here we can see the Village Phenomenon. Villagers generate a fear of Otherness, but in reality interact little with anything that is Other. Instead, the consequence of fear of Otherness results in them turning on one another. The Villagers begin to draw arbitrary lines in the sand, abstracting their neighbors until they can convince themselves that fellow Villagers are in fact Others. This is continued until the Village is destroyed. >In times like this it can be difficult to follow the Prime Directive, but it is for the best to acknowledge when certain Village systems are unsustainable and let them consume themselves.
I remember a fair bit more than just 2-3, though granted some of those may have just been normal hallway sections with random Mimir stories that could have played at any point. >I never had a problem with that because I don't have ADHD You don't have an issue with a game wasting your time? >don't have to push run button for 40 hours That's literally the thing people are complaining about. Granted, I think GoW is actually pretty tame compared to shit like the Bamham games or HZD when it comes to the use of that type of "story-telling" But it's still present enough that I found it a bit chafing And to be clear, I'm not referring to the sections on boat or where you're traversing a room and trying to figure out the best/correct path from point A to point B or looking for hidden items. That stuff is fine. I'm very specifically referring to the long bouts in the game where you're essentially just following someone else or an empty hallway route with nothing to do, not even anything to explore, and are forced to just listen to a conversation while holding up on the joystick.
Kevin Kelly
>Still haven't answered my question, don't care about your autistic definitions. Played Catherine on PC, same with Yakuza and SCVI. Not on Switch but I'm not a single-console poorfag either. Bloodborne on PSNow.
Tyler Brown
>he went pretty mad though when I mentioned OP's list. because you claimed certain games were for kids based on nothing at all, and then failed to justify the difference between games for kids and games for adults
Jason Walker
aren't sonybros still butthurt about 2017's GOTY?
Robert Perez
>You don't have an issue with a game wasting your time? Why wasting my time? I have dialogue to hear, while I can proceed and it only lasts few minutes, I don't feel any urge to run with my character 40 hours straight. >here you're essentially just following someone else or an empty hallway route Again, traveling is part of gameplay. Every action adventure has it. If you want combat most or 100% of time play some old beat em up games and stop baiting. We were talking about Switch, why the fuck you jumped with PC suddenly? Why moving goalposts?
How so? They can play it on PC. And user make laughing stock of himself calling it movie. >colorful cartoonish graphics with simplistic gameplay without adult themes and cute fluffy monsters >not kiddie games.
Sebastian Garcia
What does that have to do with anything I said? Sony killed it and we will never see another GR game
Daniel Butler
>What does that have to do with anything I said? It has to do with weeb game not being on Shitch but PS4 instead like original argument started.
Landon Gonzalez
>PSNow. >streaming Lel
Daniel Thompson
>colorful cartoonish graphics with simplistic gameplay without adult themes and cute fluffy monsters >acting like a game's aesthetic is indicative of the mental maturity needed to complete it Professory Layton has cartoonish graphics and arguably demands more mental involvement than photo-realistic games like CoD or Detroit. Visual style almost always has no bearing on the actual complexity of gameplay >without adult themes I'd like to direct your attention to Genealogy of the Holy War, a SRPG with anime art style but also adult themes like incest, eugenics and genocide.
Blake Carter
I was actually really skeptical but it works pretty well. And given that Bloodborne is a souls game, a lot of the stuff that happens can be handled through learning the layout of the level and acting pre-emptively I havent tried any other games, though I imagine fighting games wouldnt work out well at all obviously
Jack Scott
>the last 3 games I got on it were multiplats Why do people obsess about exclusives so much?
Samuel Brown
>the game is only good when it is not on Switch This is your mind on snoy
Kayden Morgan
>pokemon and Mario >games for adults My god, I know you are manchild but stop embarassing yourself further.
Sebastian James
Redpill me on Mario Rabid Kingdom Battle. Is it worth getting if I like Xcom-style games?
Eli Murphy
Why am I a sonyboy if I hate nintendo? Can I not just be an asshole who hates all videogames?
Isaiah Butler
Bloodborne already has huge input lag and frame drops on the ps4. Streaming it won't make much of a difference. So yeah Bloodborne is on PC
Carson Rodriguez
No, it dosen't. Streaming games are horrible. >all weeb games are coming to Shitch haha >post games that don't >w-why do you even assume it's good games? The analpain of Nincel cuck.
Robert Allen
Yes. It's good
Dominic Allen
It dosen't. Runs at locked 30fps on PS4Pro without drops. Streaming version is horrible and more expensive.
Josiah Perry
i hate console wars so much
Thomas Harris
Give me one single reason, JUST ONE, why I shouldn't hate all games with cutscenes. For example, why shouldn't I throw Persona 5 and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 into the dumpster right alongside God of War? keep in mind that the presence of ANY cutscenes makes all of the gameplay shit. Why? Because the devs are so incompetent at ttelling a story that they need to shove hour after hour of cinematics in my face. Why can't they do that through the gameplay? What kind of low IQ amateur interns do they even hire for these kind of games?
There will never, EVER be an excuse to justify games with heavy amounts of cutscenes, and there is zero exception no matter the developer or the console.
>Can I not just be an asshole who hates all videogames? That would still make you a snoyboy because snoys don't play videogames
Jace Taylor
>Why wasting my time? I have dialogue to hear, while I can proceed and it only lasts few minutes, I don't feel any urge to run with my character 40 hours straight. It is a waste of your time because it's shit that could be accompanied with at least a puzzle or something for your brain to chew on. Better yet, why not scrap the dialogue and SHOW the player shit that's happening in the story instead of just telling them about it. A lot of Mimir's stories would have been better if they accompanied some gameplay section that emulated the events of his story. >Again, traveling is part of gameplay. Every action adventure has it. If you want combat most or 100% of time play some old beat em up games and stop baiting. Yes, but in other action adventure games, traversal comes with the player's decision making on how to progress and what resources they'll need at their destination and for the journey. There is still decision making when you're playing a zelda game or even a dark souls game when it comes to deciding on how you're going to get from point A to point B. With the hallway sections in GoW (again, not as egregious as other games but still present), there's no decision making in that traversal, it's just following a pre-determined route that other characters guide you on.
John Perry
>all weeb games are coming to Shitch haha Can you quote where I said that because I never did Bloodborne actually runs worse on the ps4pro than the ps4 because the game is forgotton by sony and not optimised. It has frequent drops to 20fps
John Ortiz
>brings up pokemon and Mario despite me not bringing it up Unrelated but sure. Pokemon games generally aren't for adults, that's true. But Mario games certainly can be given that, at a mechanical level, they can be pretty involved. This is doubly so for shit like MM2.
Robert Clark
no one was talking about framerate. When you're talking about streaming games, the main issue is input-lag.
Sebastian Allen
>ignores the games user actually brings up for his own examples yeah, cause CoD and FIFA are for adults lol
Jaxson Adams
>It is a waste of your time because it's shit that could be accompanied with at least a puzzle or something for your brain to chew on. Considering your autistic logic everytime I don't fight enemy or solve puzzle is wasting my time, traveling in action adventure games takes most part of them. I'm wasting my time in most games, most of the time, got it. >Yes, but in other action adventure games, traversal comes with the player's decision making on how to progress and what resources they'll need at their destination and for the journey. Which is GoW. Why do you talk about game you never played? >Can you quote where I said that because I never did I don't know if it was you or other retard. The point still stands. >Bloodborne actually runs worse on the ps4pro than the ps4 because the game is forgotton by sony and not optimised. It has frequent drops to 20fps Can you show me that, or you pulling this out of your butthole? Mario and Pokemons are very simplistic, same as many other games OP mentioned. Cartoonish visuals also pander to children.
Adam Hughes
why is lets go eevee mid while pikachu is low? what are the differences?
>no one was talking about framerate. >PS4 has framerate drops so my streaming lag is ok if added
Samuel Ortiz
>The point still stands but is completely unrelated to the topic ok retard
Michael Williams
>argument starts with said topic >it's unrelated to topic because I moved goalposts not related to topic Ok, retard.
Elijah Evans
>Which is GoW. Why do you talk about game you never played? I never said there weren't sections like that, I explicitly stated there WERE good traversal and exploration sections. I'm saying there are also a lot of walking-simulator sections where the sole, lone focus is on dialogue with nothing else and I consider those to be a waste of the player's time since, at that point, you might as well put those conversations in their own menu or in the journal, and just have the player go on to the next section with actual content in it.
Nicholas Miller
>thread starts with said topic >snoyboys start defending their company even though thread is completely unrelated to sony >you are reading this post right now
Christian James
Eh, personally I think a few of those games are rated too much.
>I'm saying there are also a lot of walking-simulator sections No, there are like 2-3 and they are pretty short, especially for 40 hrs game, holy shit. >Nincels claim that all weeb games are coming to Shitch >when someone prove them wrong as they always are they move goalposts to "b-but they are on PC, b-but they are not good" >expect to take them seriously instead of insecure laughing stock they are jealous of your games
Julian Moore
You have a shittier taste than the guy you replied to. He is known to be a fucking faggot. That makes you a massive fucking faggot
Austin Davis
On base PS4, that's true. it does have framerate drops >PS4 has framerate drops so my streaming lag is ok if added That's not what that was abotu though. He was saying that because there's already input lag in the game, a bit extra from streaming doesnt make that much of a difference
Nolan Miller
Alright keep talking about that topic I have no part in you delusional fuck
Matthew Smith
>you have a shittier taste Care to explain why?
Kayden Butler
>lone focus is on dialogue with nothing else No, the focus is also to proceed and move your character, adding voice acting dosen't change that, truly, autismo-kun.
Ayden Sanchez
>streaming dosen't make much difference You are fucking retarded user. I guess dropping from 1440p to 480p is not that difference to you too.
Brayden Bailey
>Torna in shit tier >everything in mid tier or below every opinion you have is invalid
Jose Phillips
And I'm saying that's false because there's actually a lot more than that given the number of empty, narrow hallways you go through in Hel, in Midgard and I believe there were a couple in alfheim too.
>And I'm saying that's false So you are wrong. > there's actually a lot more than that given the number of empty, narrow hallways you go through in Hel, Zelda is even more empty, you can run run and don't even meet or see anything. It's movie man. GoW is full action compared to it.
Ethan Myers
>torna in shit tier I don't like cinematic experiences. I'm sorry. Same reason why I hate God of War. I really don't care about "muh 60 hours of gameplay" when you're shoving dialogue and cutscenes in my constantly. I won't even give the game a chance to win me over if that is what they consider good game design.
>that fucking lag >can't even play the best part unless own PS4 >720p lmao
Kayden Garcia
>Mario and Pokemons are very simplistic, same as many other games OP mentioned Pokemon, yes. Mario games, particularly 64 and Sunshine, have a pretty complex set of challenges to overcome even if the core story section doesnt require the player to tackle the hardest challenges. Simple controls doesn't necessarily mean the content is simplistic >Cartoonish visuals also pander to children. >things that are easy on the eyes and appealing pander to children and photo-realistic graphics pander to man-children who can only justify their hobby if it looks cool when other people see them engaging in it.
James Long
>mario complex >photo realistic graphics >pander to children (You).
My 14 year old cousin stopped playing Nintendo games because they were too easy and childish for him. No wonder Nintendo fanboys look like fat virgins.
Colton Taylor
>that fucking lag it's honestly not that much more than the base-game, I assure you. >can't even play the best part unless own PS4 Old Hunters is pretty good but if you're only interested in Bloodborne among the PS4 exclusives, it's as good a way to play it as any >720p Not great, but doesn't make the game unplayable. It's a perfectly serviceable and overall cheaper way to play the PS4's best game.
Thomas Sanders
Oh hey I know who you are. I have this conversation with you every week!
Ethan Lopez
>judging Mario AND the fanboys based on looks Poor form user. I can list a thousand problems with modern Nintendo games without touching anything regarding aesthetics. Your arguments are weak and seem to appeal to emotion and trivial things. Frankly, I find it as offensive as snoy wojaks purposely made black because "haha niggers amirite" ignoring that many black friends of mine enjoy playing on the PC, they have Switches too, and some even have an Xbox here and there. I think it's an unfair judgement and reeks of /pol/.
Chase Brooks
It's inferior, content lacking and more expensive way to play it user.
Ian Howard
>Poor form user. No, it says a lot.
Noah Allen
>more expensive way to play it user Except to buy a PS4 with Bloodborne, used, would cost $100 PS Now is $20 a month, so you beat it in one month and you're done. You saved $80
Isaiah Sanders
Certain mario games are more mechanically complex and more nuanced content than most photo-realistic games. They're more complex than CoD, Detroit, AssCreed, modern sports games all have more brain-dead content than Sunshine's hardest challenges
Hunter Collins
I don't have to buy PC to play it right? I don't have to pay for streaming service, I can't play Bloodborne offline on PS4. Got it. What if I want to replay it? Why should I own game for only a month?
Jace Scott
prove that AAA photo-realistic games are more complex than mario sunshine
James Thomas
What proof do you want? Play something else than Mario and return.
Colton Collins
Every time I've had this convo, people never give me a satisfying, objective answer. It's always
>no it's okay now because my waifu is in it >it's okay because it makes trannies mad >it's okay because [some other really odd reason]
If it's okay to discard God of War and Uncharted and all those games for being cinematic, then it should be equally allowed to discard JRPGs for the same reason. Story is for people who hate gameplay. I'm sorry I have to be the one to say that.
Charles White
>I don't have to buy PC to play it right? user, if you don't have a PC, you wouldn't be able to even know PS Now is an option We're going to assume a basic PC with a stable internet connection is a given for anyone who knows PS Now is even an option. >I don't have to pay for streaming service, I can't play Bloodborne offline on PS4 That's right, but given that your PS4 is almost certainly plugged into the internet RIGHT NOW, and there's not a real reason to not have it that way unless you're traveling, then we can say there's not a real viable situation where you'd want to play Bloodborne offline. >What if I want to replay it? Why should I own game for only a month? That's an anomaly, not the standard case for most people. Most people beat a game once and move on. IF you're a big hardcore From fan, then you might consider the $100 buy in cost just for Bloodborne to be worth it but that's the exception, not the modal average intent and experience.
Isaac Carter
I want you to name a game, compare it to Mario Sunshine or Mario 64 on any comparable points and then make the argument that an AAA photo-realistic game has more involved content and mechanics than either of the two games I just mentioned. I know it's hard because you failed out of middle school before they could teach you how to construct a well-reasoned argument but I'd like to at least see some effort from you
Joshua Young
youtube.com/watch?v=9e11_HgnBUg Game takes 8hrs for 100% completition. This is laughable. GoW has more complex graphics, character builds, sounds, story, moves, side activities.
Kayden Powell
GoW isn't Cinematic, though Uncharted certainly is. GoW has too many walking sections for me personally but it's by far a healthy amount of content for the price. My only real complaint is that the shield stuff isn't more of its own weapon style. Torna isn't really that cinematic either. Lots of cutscenes isn't quite the same as a 'movie' game. Uncharted is a movie game because the combat and gameplay portions themselves are designed to look good more than have fun content.
Jonathan Bennett
>Uncharted is a movie game because the combat and gameplay portions themselves are designed to look good more than have fun content. And how does this not apply to GOW or Xenoblade or Final Fantasy? 13 hours of cinematic bullshit are NOT my idea of "fun gameplay". Neither is walking down corridors and having dialogue shoved in my face for 100 hours. Infact, the entire JRPG genre is guilty of being a movie game genre because of how much importance people put on the story.
Nolan Thompson
Being a good player in CoD require more skill and reaction time than anything Nintendo ever did
Jackson Rogers
None of them are movie games. It's exclusive Yea Forums autism especially butthurt towards PS4 exclusives. Yakuza and Persona get free pass having 3 times more cutscenes. Don't bother.
Nathaniel Brown
>ESRB rated E for everyone crap.
Enjoy your Fisher Price tablet.
Brody Nguyen
same with FiFa to be honest, despite being favorite normalfags game.
Joseph Collins
>admitting defeat ok retard
Jason Thompson
>game is short when players who know exactly what to do play it for the umpteenth time beyond that, a short game with top-tier content is better than a long game with middling tier content >GoW has more complex graphics irrelevant to the actual content of a game. Lots of movies have mature aesthetics but shallow plots and stories >character builds non-comparable point since Mario games don't have build systems, they only have a single move and attribute set >sounds arguable, I think Sunshine has pretty stellar sound design and music >story not gameplay content, irrelevant to the discussion of a game's complexity >moves absolutely not, Mario Sunshine has considerably more polished and precise controls than GoW >side activities also absolutely not; the optional shines you can get in Sunshine are considerably more complex and more rewarding to complete than even the Valkyrie fights in GoW, largely due to how varied and involved they are.
Isaac Sanders
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Joseph Hill
>Being a good player in CoD require more skill and reaction time than anything Nintendo ever did absolutely false. Being good in CoD more often than not comes down to who saw the other sooner. I say this as someone who poured a couple hundred hours into MW2 when I was younger and I can actually guarantee that CoD is braindead, even at high-level play since the solo-aspect of the death-match format results in a situation where the most tactical decision you'll make is whether you put a claymore in the door behind you. the number of variables and number of choices you have to make are very few and very basic. Maybe the futuristic CoD games have more options but at that point you might as well play CSGO
Adam Sanders
Splatoon 2 needs a LOT more skill
Charles Baker
>top-tier content How so? Also yes, short game is flaw. >irrelevant to the actual content of a game. The fuck, graphics is part of game. >Mario games don't have build systems, That's why it's more simplistic. >I think Sunshine has pretty stellar sound design and music I don't care about your opinion. GoW music is more complex, this is fact. >not gameplay content, irrelevant to the discussion of a game's complexity Story is also part of game, the fuck. >absolutely not, Mario Sunshine has considerably more polished and precise controls than GoW How does it have more polished and precise control? Also I was talking about complexity and number of moves, not your personal taste again. >the optional shines you can get in Sunshine are considerably more complex What's complex about them? >even the Valkyrie fights in GoW Sigrun fight is more complex and difficult than anything in Mario. Side activities in GoW are much larger and complex.
Jackson Kelly
Because there are still decisions to be made in those games moment to moment that affect your ability and odds to succeed in overcoming different challenges (FFXV is the odd-duck out here, and XIII has a bad case of having empty-hallways between the battles that actually matter).
Christian Fisher
>Also yes, short game is flaw. it's official, snoyfags would rather have 100 hours of guff than 8 hours of gold
Connor Sanchez
Why is there so much fucking literal shovelware on the switch whenever I check what's most popular and what's on sale in the online shop it's always mobile tier trash for a dime There isn't even a rating system, what the fuck
>The fuck, graphics is part of game. only important in that it sets the tone and communicates gameplay-essential information to the player. significant increases in information communicated via graphics peaked with PS2. Since then, things have looked better but we haven't really gotten much gameplay improvement from the increases in horsepower
Brayden Thomas
>Mario >8hrs of gold Nincels are pathetic. I guess spending more time on game is too difficult for them too. Enjoy your 60$ wasted for 8hr long bing bing wahoo.
Anthony Hughes
Nintendo is really just the best company for games right now, and for all time. If you play shitty, non Nintendo games... Face it. You're a KEK
>RTS KEK >MMO KEK >MOBA KEK >PC GAMES KEK
HOW can you enjoy such shitty boring NOTHING games without being a fucking tool. It's the ONLY conclusion.
Gavin Kelly
>Because there are still decisions to be made in those games moment to moment that affect your ability and odds to succeed in overcoming different challenges I guess you're right. Pressing X in that 5 minute long cutscene really made the difference. Truly Uncharted is an amazing piece of kinography.
Angel Ward
>That's why it's more simplistic. Simplistic systems is not the same as simplistic content. Warframe has really complex build systems but the actual gameplay is less complex than DMC or Bayonetta. >I don't care about your opinion. GoW music is more complex, this is fact. Except what I'm saying is that Sunshine has fairly complex sound design as well. >Story is also part of game, the fuck. Story is, for the most part, just an aesthetic wrapper around the gameplay and content. If I had a clicking simulator and, between clicks, was shown clips from Citizen Kane, that doesn't mean my clicking-simulator game is now as complex as Citizen Kane. The complexity I was talking about is the actual content of the game, as in how much of your brain power do you need to use to complete the game.
Joseph Foster
>Pressing X in that 5 minute long cutscene really made the difference. I played Uncharted 4 only. Please show me at least 3 parts of game where it happens dear autistic stinking Nincel. Counting and waiting.
Evan Roberts
>Did Golden Deers route and considering doing the Blue Lions now. Based. Blue Lions have a pretty good route too. Enjoy reaping the benefits of the NG+
Nathaniel Russell
>Nincel If I was a "nincel" I wouldn't be throwing this same criticism at Xenoblade and other Nintendo games. Relax dude.
>show me at least 3 parts of game
1. Anytime you're on a cliff side and the game just railroads you along a scripted segment. 2. Anytime you're in combat and it consists of nothing but ducking behind cover and waiting for the jelly to get off your screen 3. The final boss which is just you hitting quick time events to fight the bad guy
Brayden Russell
TWEWY is a port of the mobile version for the most part. Mary Skelter 2 was also released on the PS4, Omega Labyrinth has the family-friendly PS4 version. Code of Princess is on Steam (again, EX doesn't add enough things to call it a new game). Pokken Tournament is an arcade game. Steamworld Quest is also on Steam. The list is already long enough. No need to add false stuff into it.
Jackson Turner
really says it all that nintendofags have to reach back to the gamecube for an actual good game.
Jeremiah Hall
>Simplistic systems is not the same as simplistic content. Yes, they are. System is part of the content. Everything in game is content. > has fairly complex sound design as well. Less instruments, simpler melody. You press different buttons there, not X and you have to press them constantly, except maybe last fight, also I was asking to show me, some link, video? You have failed so hard Nincel.
Brayden Perry
>What's complex about them? not that user but they require a ton of forethought and consideration on how to traverse a given map, particularly for some of them that have time constraints or if the player is putting themselves under a given time constraint. The zones are complex enough that there are multiple paths of approach without a single 'correct' one. And, in Sunshine, you have the added complexity of the Fludd which creates (again, particularly under time constraints) a need to resource manage in real time how much water you have access to and where to apply it
Jaxson Davis
I don't know why you keep calling me a Nincel. It just feels like you don't want to argue in good faith.
Evan Cooper
Someone tell me if letting my switch idle in the dock kill the battery life
Levi Butler
System is the way you engage with the content, it isn't the content itself. Again, take Warframe as an example of a game with very complex systems but very simple content and gameplay, ultimately. Because the systems all funnel into very simply constructed challenges.
Colton King
It doesnt the thing that hurts standard portable batteries the most is doing a full 0-100 charge
>game has good graphics and story so it's movie What does Ninecls mean by that?
Jack Morgan
Nice cartoons. Call me when Switch will get some game finally.
Austin Ramirez
>game uses story and graphics to hide extremely lackluster gameplay
Yes, that does make it a movie.
Owen Cruz
You still mentioned a ps3 game
Alexander Hill
>I only care about graphics Good way to show that you're underage
Jason White
>can only insult the visual aesthetic of games to try to disqualify them as games yeah, if only we had such great games as Uncharted 4
David Clark
>TLOU >lackuster gameplay Lmao They have lackuster gameplay so they are cartoons.
Ryder Smith
>Shin Megami Tensei V Never ever. Atlus only cares about Persona.
Parker Perry
Nope. Might as well be PS4 exclusive due to how better it is.
Landon Smith
TLOU gameplay is literally nothing more than 'press X to see next cutscene and walk 100 meters to next cutscene'. It's a movie and it's not even worth watching
>They have lackuster gameplay so they are cartoons. That doesn't even make sense retard
Robert Morales
Mario Odyssey is the only game on that list that isn't a port or weebshit.
Elijah Adams
It's literally a ps3 game and thus not an exclusive
Elijah Rodriguez
Without even looking at the game, you know the devs had no priorities towards the gameplay.
>Neil Druckmann says that video games shouldn't be fun because it gets in the way of diversity >the highlight of their E3 was two women kissing in a cutscene >gameplay was glossed over like it was nothing
I wouldn't trust this guy to unclog my toilet, let alone program my video game.
>Switch already has a much longer list and it's only been out for 2 years OH NO NO NO
Aiden Campbell
Why do all of these aggressive and well know shitposters seem to be sonyfags? I've literally never seen a Nintendofag, xfag or pcfag be so annoying that they earned a name.
Evan Robinson
>WiiU games count for Switch What the fuck?
Xavier Brooks
HAHA SONY HAS HEAVY RAIN THOUGH DILATE COPE KINO YOU ZOOMER
Meanwhile people like you act like gamergate was an incel conspiracy theory
Leo Bailey
Turn based RPGs, VNs, rail shooters and Shmups aren't video games.
Levi Thomas
SEETHING SNOY
Asher Sanders
>TLOU gameplay is literally nothing more than 'press X to see next cutscene and walk 100 meters to next cutscene'. Show me single video where it happens retard. How does it relate to TLOU you fuck?
Jayden Young
>the guy literally in charge of TLOU doesn't relate to TLOU in the slightest I'd be freaking out if the guy leading my favorite video game literally hated the medium and viewed it as a storytelling medium only.
I don't know, OP is retard I guess. Why Switchlets are so mad over GOTY? First TLOU now GOW. Damn.
Connor Gomez
>he said something and show something in different game therefore it's in TLOU Wow, Nincels are still seething.
John Lopez
>That doesn't even make sense retard Cartoons don't have gameplay, just like Nintendo titles.
Tyler Flores
THe guy is literally the lead in TLOU2. The same game you're proclaiming as GOTY. I'd be a little worried desu.
Cooper Roberts
He said they don't use word fun not that game shouldn't be fun. Why Nintendo fans lack any proper basic reading skills? And they are getting mad that we call them toddlers.
Austin Ramirez
I said TLOU was GOTY which is fact. Your reading skills are so nonexistent as gameplay in Nintendo cartoons.
Brandon Jenkins
>He said they don't use word fun not that game shouldn't be fun. He took offense over the word "fun" because it implies that his game can't be "art". Because for some reason these hipsters can't comprehend a product that can be fun, since art needs to be SUPER SERIOUS. Hence the same reasoning behind why most shooters are edgy grimdark POS rehashes.
>TLOU was GOTY It kinda needs to be a game for it to be GOTY, hence the G part of the acronym. And TLOU is sorely lacking in that department.
Cameron Gonzalez
>It kinda needs to be a game for it to be GOTY And it was, it was called Game of the Year by most publicatios therefore you are wrong. >TLOU is sorely lacking in that department. It has much more gameplay than Mario games user. Sorry.
Jack Johnson
>And it was, it was called Game of the Year by most publicatios (((publications)))? The same publications that said gamers were dead and that games need to evolve as an art medium?
>It has much more gameplay than Mario games user. Sorry I don't even remember bringing up Mario.
Hunter Gutierrez
>everyone are wrong, only I am right. Basically every gaming site, magazine call TLOU video game. Sorry. >I don't even remember bringing up Mario So Mario is movie, ok.
Jayden Phillips
It's always been a problem. Even on the Wii. The only real upside is that it makes it easier for good indie devs to put their games on the switch with minimal red tape. That's literally the only good thing though. Even the switch news has an upvote and downvote feature.
Adam Powell
>The same publications that said gamers were dead and that games need to evolve as an art medium? Which one are you talking about? Give me name and citation.
Kayden Sanders
I'll buy a switch when Nintendo puts one out without controller drift.
Wyatt Rodriguez
>Which one are you talking about? Give me name and citation.
>"Just because adult women are the largest demographic in gaming, doesn't mean the war is won" >adult women >largest demographic in gaming Where the fuck do these people get their information?
Henry Cook
Reminder that a Nintendo exclusive has never been a consensus GOTY since reliable tracking began :)
Nicholas Cruz
>Super Mario Maker 2
This is the only one I like, even Mario Kart 8 is a blunder for me cause only 1/3 of the tracks are actually good.
