Those with AoE2:DE beta keys, break your NDA here
Age of Empires 2: Definitive Edition
From last thread
it's 95GB
wtf why
Does it run well? My PC is starting to age and frame-drops will make me wanna kms
>Lithuanian unit ignores armour
That seems a little too powerful
>break your NDA
How do they hold you to it? They know how the internet works, right?
>Cumans AND Tatars
Aren't they the same thing?
Essentially. I'd have rathered a Caucasian civ like Georgians or Armenians but this is still cool.
a lot of big ass textures, i'd assume
Still waiting for my beta key, got invited to the aoe1 beta which was a kick in the teeth
>rts in 2019
Move on
Go home zoomer
There's optional 4k textures, otherwise the game is around 23gb
They didn't compress their animations
>still 23 gb
wtf
COMPRESS YOUR FUCKING DATA SHIT DEVS
That's very odd. Why didn't they just use a physics engine like AOE3? It has very detailed building and ship destruction (compared to AOE2 anyway) and it isn't going to be the same animation every single time.
>animation files
Why not use a physics engine instead
>Georgians
This would be based
AOE3's ragdolls always looked so silly
Because it uses 2d sprites for everything. They're essentially taking the original genie engine from the original game and sticking 4k sprites with 4x the number of facing angles with more frames of animation to make it look near 3d.
I'm glad they stuck with sprites though, keeps some of the soul
We only get half the story on the surface with these units though. There's nothing about attack speed, how fast they are, etc. Kind of like how Halberdiers attack very slowly, and how Mangudai are much quicker to fire their shots than ordinary Cavalry Archers, as well as hidden bonus damage which actually happens a lot in the background (ie Militia line vs Eagles).
However, with the ability to power up Cavalry with obtaining relics (fucking up to +5 too), Lithuanian Knights and Leitis could potentially be devastating. We're definitely going to see some rebalancing with these civs down the line, when we can use them.
That's with the enhanced textures. It's 29 GB without (but also a fair deal blurry).
But fun!
Why so many horsefuckers? Even the Bulgarians were originally from the Steppe
Each expansion has a civilization theme going on. Like the first was new world so Natives and Spanish, the other about Africa, Asia, now this one takes the steppes.
Still waiting for those North American civs.
I wonder how far Microsoft and FE are going to push expansions. We're now up to 35 civilizations, how long until they do shit like 'what if' AoE I civs that are retooled for AoE II gameplay?
World's big,
That's true, and the game covers quite a large amount of time.
>North American
Did they even build structures like the mesoamericans
Rise of Nations did a pretty good job at making it seem like they did.
It's time for them to move on to Age of Mythology.
Why? Excluding all expansions, AoM is literally, not figuratively, perfect.
They're patching Extended Edition again after making a mess of it with the Chinese xpack, it only took them fucking three years! That's even worse than Starbound who teased an update for two years only to have absolutely jack shit
>perfect
>no aztec / mesoamerican civ
that is fucking lazy.
>Sacrifice your own units at temples for favor
I'd play as them
>not sacrificing enemy troops for greater favor rewards
How the fuck is that lazy?
How so? It's a lot more work than actually using 3D models.
How many sprite rotations does AoE DE have?
same fucking reason why HD ports are.
Its a 20yo game faggot
Its a 9seconds download faggot
It's a remake faggot
Has anyone tried multiplayer yet and if so, how is it? There's this disgusting delay in AOE2 HD even with good ping that I hope is resolved with DE.
lol
What I played with another user was okay, but he got disconnected. Think he had ISP problems though.
sorry for being an esports fag but aom is one of the worst RTS games ever created for higher level play. yeah it's fun and cool, but aoe2 already pisses all over it in terms of competitive viability
Isn't there already an HD edition? Is there really any reason for this?
That was """HD""", this is actually HD and 4k
That came out in 2013 user...
The price is supposed to be 20€ or 15€ if you own HD and (don't quote me on this, I might be wrong) includes everything HD offered in terms of expansions and more + fixing things like pathfinding or multiplayer.
I'd buy it just for the last 2 changes alone if they are any good and the price isn't exorbitant so if it's not complete and irredeemable garbage then I don't mind buying AOE2 "again".
>see beta invite email
>it's for fucking aoe1
>it's a microsoft store game despite being a playtest for the steam release
What the fuck
>the game's release for steam later this month
Oh shit is that a leak?
Great, I can buy the same game again!
I think some devs have mentioned August as a possible release date previously. They're just stress-testing the servers at this point so they're all done with the game itself.
>it's a microsoft store game despite being a playtest for the steam release
They're testing crossplay, so they need people on both ends. You just got unlucky.
a minute of this application is not responding whenever your toaster loads a map (they're fixing it though)
Joan of Arc campaign is up
Nigger what? That is the opposite of lazy, they could have done it vastly easier by just using 3d models, sprites require significantly more work.
Finally you can actually differentiate between colours
>finally
t. colorblind
Speaking of which, there multiple colorblind options as well.
I'm not colorblind but I like the look of a lot of things better in colorblind mode, like LoL. Fine by me
we need an RTS general on vg. they have 4x one but 4x is shit
is that a dick
What other rts games still have a big playerbase? SC?
Call me a fag if you want to but I hate what they have done to AoE2. It's a different game from what it used to be.
sc2
warcraft 3
dawn of war series
age 3, aom
coh
empire at war
Make one, I'll post in it
what, like actually somewhat balanced?
fag
ill gather some rts news quickly to make a decent op
based, then I can finally tell boomers to fuck off to vg when then post RTS threads here
There's a lot more civs to learn but the general balance is overall better off. A few like Persians though are kind of left in the dust.
and i can tell you to fuck off because genre-wide generals are a clusterfuck
True gamers buy every game they "own" at least thrice
>genre-wide generals are a clusterfuck
This
>tracking instantly applies in feudal
This is a very good change
gimme
man i want this game to be alive so bad but whenever i check voobly theres like 10people playing :/
i'm actually more hyped for aoe1 on steam, never played it before while i know every nook and cranny in aoe2 at this point
>he never got aoe1 from a cereal box
I was expecting this. I'll stick to HD fuck DE
>2020-1
>not having at least 1tb for games
yikes
Just don't install the texture pack and it's like a third of the size.
is there some leaked pirate version or i actually need to have beta key invite to try it?
What's wrong with 1.0c
Check out gameranger for vanilla, ton of people still playing
Does this come with a fast castle tutorial//scenario?
basically fast castle is all you need for 1750 elo and to dab on any noob
saying it right now
cumans are overpowered as fuck shitters it's not even funny
they are too wacky of a civ, you either make all civs the same flavor of boring like the original did or you augment the older civs with a spicier playstyle
the beta doesn't but I believe they mentioned extensive tutorial scenarios
Posting tech trees from last thread
>Bulgarians
So that's how it looked so good
>Cumans
>Lithuanians
cunts can go for superfast feudal and boom like madmen, why ever play anything else in pocket?
>Tatars
even if you want to harras them in feudal, when the gild pile is one of the most important targets, they just slap a TC on top of it and you can't contest it
When is this shit coming out?
Also fuck vooblyniggers
based
Just reposting another user's efforts, no need to thank me
On the off chance that this is not the last expansion, what new civs would you like to see in the future? Off the top of my head;
>Flemish/Dutch
>Georgians/Armenians
>Polish (and rename Slavs to Russians already for fucks sake)
>Tibetans (they were apparently considered as the Asian rep for The Conquerors before they settled on Koreans)
>Aragonese
>Normans
>Kurds
I actually believe that there are too many civs now, not every provence that exists for 100 years in the middle ages needs a civ
>those cav archers
nut
>team members can create 10 free kipchaks in the castle
I wonder if that means 10 can be alive at once, or if it really means 10 and that's it.
It's like the Vietnamese thing Paper Money, gives them 10 free units one time
>played AOE 1 and 2 like 20 years ago
>still relevant today
Ahh good game... who played on the Zone?
Might be good to bail teammates out in the castle age but seems pretty weak for an imp tech
>Polish and Dutch existed for 100 years
t. americlap
I'll give you the poland one
but dutches are basically are just the most western germans, they never even believed they were separate from other germans before the goverment brainwashed thm starting from the 19th century
Definitely need more Slavic civs, they did us dirty
General: Elite Skirmisher upgrade cost increased from 200w/100g to 230w/130g
General: Herbal Medicine effect increased by 50%
General: All Gates have 0/0 armor while building
General: Palisade Gate cost increased from 20w to 30w
General: Watch Tower HP reduced from 1020 to 700 in feudal age. HP restored back to 1020 in Castle Age.
General: Elite Battle Elephant attack reduced from 16 to 14.
General: Supplies moved to Feudal Age
Teutons: Receive Herbal Medicine
Teutons: Murder Holes & Herbal Medicine free
Britons: Warwolf cost increased from 500w, 250g to 800w, 400g
Franks: Cavalry +20% HP bonus only available from Feudal Age
Goths: Lose Supplies
Incas: Slingers -1 attack (reduced from 5 to 4)
Italians: Genoese Crossbowman reload time reduced from 3 to 2
Khmer: Receive Faith
Khmer: Receive Hussar
Khmer: Lose Shipwright
Koreans: Receive “All non-siege units cost -15% less wood”
Koreans: Lose “Fortifications built faster”
Malay: Harbors base attack reduced from 6 to 3. Bonus attack vs Ships increased from 9 to 12.
Malay: Forced Levy changes gold cost into food cost
Malay: Forced Levy cost changed from 1000f 600g to 850f 500g.
Persians: Town Centers and Docks work +5% faster in Dark Age.
Saracens: All Archers now deal +3 bonus damage vs buildings.
Saracens: Market costs -100w (instead of -75w).
Saracens: Mamelukes +5 armor vs Halberdiers
Spanish: Missionaries heal as quickly as normal Monks.
Spanish: Missionaries affected by Husbandry.
Slavs: Receive Faith
Slavs: Farmers work 10% faster (lowered from 15% faster)
Slavs: (Elite) Boyar training time reduced to 15s (from 23s/20s)
Vietnamese: Receive Husbandry
yeah I guess they were mostly big in colonial times so aoe3
Polish uu was also stolen for light cavalry sprites
Saracen buffs are nice
the only issue I have with the new graphics is the way trees look
they look copy pasted and like they were literally cut from some botanical magazine, the old ones blended better
you can see the new trees have a yellow hallow from the way they rendered them from pictures
It's fun, i have to use matchmaking right? i can't find lobbies
Does it run well compared to the normal game or the HD version? I remember the engine being pretty shit and it just sweating bullets when too many troops were in view. AI would bug out, framerate was shit.
no one plays this lol
also it's campaign weekend
Yeah it's strange that they used winged hussars for every civ as well
Woah check out the new physics engine on it! I just hopped into a sandbox game to test this and it looks insane!
too much visual garbage
Shut the fuck up.
No, I don't think I will.
LUDOKINO!
garbae opinion
POST MORE AND WITH MORE BUILDINGS PLEASE
PUT A TC OR MONUMENT FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES
>nu Yea Forums is this gullible
there's no physics engine just 500mb crumbling animations for each building
Looks kinda cool but also too spongy
I don't want to most more since I am afraid there are digital watermarks in it and I will get Microsoft on my case. Sorry
These guys look like a big problem, nerfs incoming
>Forced Levy changes gold cost into food cost
Holy shit that's a big Malay nerf
>What is Supplies
Fugggg I misunderstood and thought forced levy removed food cost and kept gold don't mind me
So it turns out Microsoft had all the guys working on Crackdown 3's destruction system moved to AoE2
Yeah, it should basically be 65f per unit now with both techs, marginally more expensive than it was previously but it's still fair. Forced Levy in itself is now cheaper too, whose difference matches up with Supplies.
That Bulgarian unit sounds dumb as hell
come on beta keys chads we need more screenshots!!
What do you want exactly? We can only play four civs at a time, one user the other night was passing out screenshots too.
The game does look gorgeous
Ugly ass trees
LA HIRE
Soulless
WE ARE GOING HOME AOE2 BROS
Some of the trees have an issue with blurriness.
>food is represented by meat again
VEGANFAGS BTFO'D!
>17GB remake of a 200MB game
WHY
placeholder icons, you can tell by the shitty res
everything is sprite based but now in modern era framerates and resolutions
remaking in 3d would end up smaller but soulless
what. theres always 1k people playing it on steam
What? It goes up to like 10k during peak hours.
brainlet here. how do they do this with sprites? is it one of the 9999 sprites they have that was trigged by the number and position of attacks or what
he's talking aom
age 2 yes. aom stays around 1k ppl
It's basically 2d animation, it's a slideshow.
it's a fan animation in unreal engine or something that has nothing to do with DE
Ive been playing a bunch of the HD edition lately, really enjoyed the campaign even though I fucking suck, are the 10 bux DLCs worth it?
>its x
>its y
only reply to me if u are willing to help
They pack a lot of content in, I'd say yes if you don't want to wait for a sale
Did they fix this?
It's a fan render
lmao
I never understood why they fucked up so much the farm disposition in general.
why ruin autism kino?
>he doesn't use the swastika disposition
any examples?
thanks
You have objectively shitty opinions.
does the beta have a history encyclopedic menu? is it the same?
It's been revised to change the record
no
>weird backlighting on random trees on the left
Yeah I love it sorry you're right
Can someone link me to the last thread?
It looks like a miniature model, in a good way
Right here nigga. God I feel so old. But I've had such good times back in the day
What was the Zone like?
...
>yall niggas complainin about the trees when yall tryhards just gonna use pussywood anyway LMOA
So the Steppe Lancer is a Kamayuk on a horse?
Pussywood and grid are apparently options in the base game
any of you plan on picking up aoe1 de when it comes out on steam, or skipping out on it?
Yes, by looking at the stats it will play like a mini cataphract, being good against infantry and not so good against archers.
>goths getting shafted again
Fuck
Is it windows 10 only?
I'll buy it, haven't played aoe1 in 15 years
The pathing in that game felt really weird. But I'll probably get it anyway for nostalgia's sake
Is there much point picking up the HD Edition or should I hold out for this? I've got an itch to play.
Can you wait until late November
Seconding this.
>It will also include an all-new campaign called The Last Khans.
Can anyone tell me about the last khans?
Chechens
You get a $5 discount, bringing it down to $14.99 if you already own the HD edition. This game has been on sale for $5 before.
I'd advise waiting for another sale although at this point its unlikely.
Tatars are post-Mongolrape Cumans
according to steam apge system requirements it is, but who knows those might be subject to change.
They better fix this by launch. I'm not going to bother with this shit if they give us a 80 gb game to install... Fuck this anyways, I am sticking with the tried and true HD edition.
Is everyone jumping ship from voobly/hd when this drops? This community can't take another split
Nah I am staying with AOE 2: HD. I hate the nu art direction.
That would be me and yes I've got ISP problems, but only related to upload so who the fuck knows.
Technicians were over a quarter of an hour ago and basically all they confirmed is that it's not on my end so now they escalated shit to their central, problem is it's Friday and late afternoon so nobody is going to fix my shit until Monday at earliest, gg.
Poland got fucked the hardest, no civ, their "legendary" unit (winged hussar) is just generic light cav for all civs, completely ignored in campaigns despite basically stopping both Kebab and Swedes from raping Europe.
>oh wow yeah and call of duty sucks too amirite
fellow 4chaners???
neck urself
>17gb
What?
It's 29GB with low-res textures (blurry as shit) or 94GB with high-res textures.
They could change that so the Winged Hussars are unique for the Poles and then other empires could build them at the stable (or get the upgrade) if their ally plays as a Pole. Winged Hussars were also Mercenaries too IIRC, so this would actually make sense.
Has a DX9 exe so might not be.
If their online has features like voobly, then people will move on. The only way people won't jump ship is if the download size turns out to be too large, or if the specs needed are too high.
Built-in tutorials like boar luring and fast castling, as well as built-in options for grid and pussywood, I could see a lot of people move on to this.
Poles are the niggers of europeans. You don't deserve shit
I'm German though.
way to out yourself, retardo
Lmao retard
I like it and will probably use DE, although I'll miss the sprite/pixel art of the original. Some really good mods for it too. I suspect I'll switch around between the two.
Goths are my favorite civ. :(
DE is also entirely sprite based though.
AOE 2 HD actually did great things for AOE 2. Sure, maybe they started milking players for money with Expansions, but they made it work so the community didn't split based on who owned the expansions. What fucking sucks is they are doing it yet again with these shitty graphics enhancements, totally useless. It'll cause a split in the community.
My bad, I remember reading that in the thread. I guess switching between classic and new style graphics.
They're at least offering a discount, I wish it was 10$ instead of 5$ though.
>shitty graphics enhancements
>literally NEW BAD
Fuck off already.
It was the existence of expansions that got me curious into playing aoe2 again- it was a shock to see
The reason why DE is 94GB big is because they didn't go the lazy way of just making it 3D with fixed camera and calling it a day, but they actually made everything sprite based just like original, but at much higher resolution.
They also added more angle permutations and animations, all that shit together really adds up hence the filesize.
>I want a game because they made it look nicer, not because it plays better.
People like you are the reason why we can't have innovation in the gaming industry centered on gameplay.
I would unironically pay full price for this game, I actually played aoe2 the first year it came out and I can't believe its been 20 years. Where did all that time go...
Unironic reminder that we have Bill Gates to thank for this, because he's the one that made AoE2 HD happen which eventually led to all this.
wasn't the "HD" basically what you could've achieved with shitty mods on the original? Or did they actually remake those for aoe2 hd
Eat a dick faggot, I've been playing Age of Empires since day one. DE adds brand new content, so I guess you won't be enjoying that over petty bullshit.
Source btw:
web.archive.org
Bill Gates is responsible for the Definitive Editions and AoE4 being made.
Do you think they're going to let us add people we meet in online aoe2 de lobbies as friends on steam finally?
I really need to make some friends to play aoe2 with. Sadly, and unsurprisingly so, this game has way too many unfun disgruntled boomers so hopefully DE brings in more younger players into the scene to make things a bit spicier
I mean Inca architecture looks nothing like the Mesoamerican one, but that didn't matter for Microsoft
>wasn't the "HD" basically what you could've achieved with shitty mods on the original? Or did they actually remake those for aoe2 hd
Yeah, it was just a resolution mod with the free mod (Forgotten Empires) turned into paid DLC and some QoL stuff added such as ability to queue techs. Basically glorified mod.
DE on the other hand is a full remake.
I remember that question asked from that website that must not be named.
Age of Empires should be his greatest legacy.
I hate to defend that guy but this is a 20 year old remake, this isn't the situation to look for brand new breakthrough gameplay.
Plebbit does some good sometimes, it's not all cancer.
They are literally making it easier to play by adding things like commands queue and similar shit on top of the new civs and balance changes.
Based Gates
it's still gookclick
>Hey everyone, i'm an AOE vet! I must know what is right for the game. I believe in a second remake for a 20 year old game that causes another community divide, so I can give Microsoft more money and drool at graphics enhancements. Anyone who disagrees with me should eat a dick.
Your AOE 2 "veterancy" doesn't give you more credibility. Inb4 they do a Age of Empires 2 remake #3 with meaningless additions exclusive to the others. $$$$
>reading the AoE2 design document from 1998
>The Teutonic Knights were more concerned with killing everyone in eastern Europe than building up an infrastructure; they were primarily warriors and built little of note.
damn, the devs were based and redpilled
God you're so fucking stupid. This is the first remake they've done of AoE2. HD is not a remake in any way, shape, or form.
Not him, but it's nice to have new content and genuine corrections to the game for the price of a regular expansion than play on shady Turkish Voobly with a bunch of angry middle-aged men like you.
Yea Forums really does hate fun.
Honestly, the community is so small that I wouldn't mind a gamble of "dividing" it if it comes with the chance of growing and strengthening the community instead.
I know some people are complacent with small communities, but I'd like to see RTS and AOE make a big comeback.
You don't need Voobly to do AOE 2: HD, unless you are implying that I even hate HD, which I don't. I actually like what they did with that.
Just remember when it came out and thinking something like this doesn't really look much better. Because if you name it HD. First thing that comes to your mind is that's the main selling point.
of course there's a lot of other stuff tweaked and added whatever. and picked it up later when it was $3 or so
cant fucking wait to replay the story on hard, the english longbowmen are gonan terrorize me again but im up for it, same with DE 1
So you're just a hypocrite. HD did less for the AoE2 than DE is doing while 'dividing the fanbase' all the same.
kill yourself windows 10 shill
Why isn't age of Empire 3 loved more
I unironically like it more than 2
I personally hope that they increase the max pop for campaigns, 75 is frustrating in some of them
What exactly is the difference between this and AOE2 HD? Is it just another graphics update?
>+23 men at arms to make supplies worth it
beyond retarded
literally no one makes more than 10 men at arms during feudal sans malians, why not move squires and arson to feudal insted?
Yup! I hope we get some new campaigns too, would absolutely love something like battle of the conquerors again and obviously full campaigns for the new civs
DE is a full-blown remake with new graphics, audio, balance changes, and a whole new expansion.
>4K Ultra HD graphics, a new and fully remastered soundtrack, and brand-new content, “The Last Khans” with 3 new campaigns and 4 new civilizations.
>You get a $5 discount, bringing it down to $14.99 if you already own the HD edition.
That's tempting. I've still got some steambux left from the TF2 crate nonsense that happened a while ago, might as well pick it up if it saves a bit of cash in the long run.
it's ok slavbros get it for free
One word
Cards
+ dumb shit like arrows ignoring walls (realistic but awful for gameplay)
>arrows ignoring walls
What does that even mean?
They fly through/over them
what's wrong with that?
>additional town centers can be built in the feudal age
isn't that ridiculously op?
Makes fortifications pointless because enemy fire ignores them you fucking brainlet
oh AND battering rams in feudal, wtf
They already announced new campaigns. The Last Khans and something else.. and there could be more. They also said they'd be remaking alllll the campaigns, even the ones from the expansions
go for it user! I doubt you'll regret it. Its a 20 year old game after all, yet still holds up today
but that's the case in every game
Isn't this the case in every game
I think there are at least 3 new campaings. Don't know if they will add more
It's obvious the game is nowhere near finished, I'm not sure how they can aim for release this fall
That happens in all AoE/M games.
Winter starts December 21st so they have a few more months.
unironically agreed
This is my first time hearing about this and I just went to watch the trailer expecting AOE2 with Starcraft 2 level of graphics
>mfw it looks exactly the same as the HD release from 6 years ago
Why another one after the HD edition?
Well AoE1 Definitive wasn't released in a finished state either, and is pretty shitty still.
So why expect more.
Because HD is just re-release to better work on modern systems, DE is a remake.
HD was shit and no one plays it
everyone plays the original with voobly
Huh?
What does this do that HD doesn't?
HD does add new content and rebalancing too.
Wheres the line between "remake" and re-release for you then?
only a few tryhards are still on voobly
hd has much higher player numbers
>and is pretty shitty still.
Not at all. It definitely took them too long to fix shit but as of this moment DE1 is great.
And you trust the guys who botched AoE1 DE to do a good job with AoE2 DE to change that?
For starters the graphics and audio are completely remade. Sprites now have many more frames of animation. It features all the content and balance changes from HD and adds more on top of it, new techs, civs, units, etc. Devs also said they're making online not shit.
>and is pretty shitty still.
Why are you lying? It's feature complete now and has all the QoL and shit that AoE2DE does.
How does it feel to be terminally blind?
Even worse when the regulars start anime posting
Does it have the DLC civs from HD too?
That would be pretty cool.
There's this weird angry guy in the thread who only wants everyone on voobly, ignore him.
It does.
yes plus 4 more
Remake means literally creating everything from scratch.
HD was literally just a paid patch for original, it didn't improve the original sprites, textures and audio in any way.
This one has completely new visuals, completely re-recorded audio, redone interface and so on.
Voobly chads will make sure DE doesn't take off.
It looks like shit senpai, relative to other modern RTS games
rebuild from the ground up for better animation, better netcode, better pathfinding, better graphics, but also 4 new civs and some balance changes
>we live in the timeline of DRM remakes
B-bros... I don't know if I want remakes anymore...
Forgotten, WE, Rajas, and whatever the new one is called.
2D was a mistake
Did you play the beta? What were the issues user? I wish I got an invite...
I RECOGNIZE THIS SCENARIO MAP
obvious from what?
they already said they have enough civilizations
also
>Flemish/Dutch
>Georgians/Armenians
>Polish
based
>Tibetans
china says no
>Aragonese
>Normans
>Kurds
cringe
yeah they just released her campaign today, it's up till monday
>pretty much all text looks like shit and some is completely illegible
>tons of placeholder icons directly taken from original aoe2 (no big deal, artists should fix that easily)
>the first time you load a map the game freezes for ~30 seconds and windows tries to shut it down
>objectives in campaign show /3
>when you chop a tree or mine something it gets a health bar stuck on the screen
>drag select sometimes selects units outside the box
>some people crash in MP when creating certain units
>La Hire sounds bored
etc
>>La Hire sounds bored
where is the sound?
just load up mission 3 of Joan campaign bro
I'm not invited to the Beta
>anything Tibet related, especially in 2019
would tibet monks go ololow