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>Tiananmen square in any way related to socialism, let alone the hybrid economy democratic socialism proposed in America.
What a fucking retard

Well, it hasn't. You can't just call yourself socialist and that's it. Did you know the Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't a democracy either?

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as always, the socialists run for the hills as soon as you mention Venezuela

Well we already went through this. I ask if the workers control the means of production, you post some lame "real socialism" meme and nothing is gained.

>tfw my thread devolved into a politics discussion
i just wanted to discuss secret worlds....

"the workers control the means of production" is a meaningless meme phrase. On a country wide scale, it's impossible for every worker to jointly control the means of production, meaning the few former workers who do end up in control just become the new bourgeoisie. That's how you get the Nomenklatura

Putting aside the isseue that I don't think it's impossible at all, let's not act as if countries like Venezuela even tried. All Venezuela did to earn its "socialism" label was increase social welfare spending, not unlike what is common in many european countries.
It is very silly to pretend a tiny bandaid to try and alleviate the worst consequences of capitalism makes a country socialist.

>"the workers control the means of production" is a meaningless meme phrase.
That's the basic premise of marxism though lmao you fucking idiot

Almost like Marxism is a meaningless meme philosophy that's used by the ambitious to trick useful idiots into giving them power

Did you come to this conclusions from reading Marx or as a result of the forces in a capitalist system acting in self-preservation?

Honestly don't bother replying, I doubt anyone would do some deep reflection on their attitudes because a stranger online said so and it's getting late anyways.

"The workers control the means of production" is a meme and can be easily compared to other stupid concepts like "the people own public spaces".

In a socialist society you won't have a say in your work time, in which position you work inside a factory, what are your tasks, what the resources the fabric make, to where those resources will go, and any other kind of administrative functions. No, you don't have a say on these things. ACTUALLY, you work there, you have a work schedule, you have a fixed position, and you have a supervisor. Just like working in a normal factory.

So responding you question: "Do the workers control the means of production in venezuela?". The answer is yes, because the biggest means of production are on the hands of the state, which represents the will of the collectivity. Unless you are being literal, then the people control the means of production as much as you own the parks in your city. You don't, because you don't have a say on how they are managed. They ultimately just belong to the state.

Speaking about literality, I don't think it's ever possible for socialism to be real if you only think the means of production are on the hands of the workers if you analyze in a objective way, making your shitty state format even more comparable to fairy tales. I would be happy to hear how "the means of production being in the hands of the workers" would work on a real life scenario though, because that's something I have never heard, and when people tried to explain, they went mad as soon as I presented a problem in their hypothetical scenarios.

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>immediately turns into a commie tranny thread
When will cripplechan come back? /leftypol/ was their containment.

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>due to a genetic mutation, the son has a capacity for happiness that far exceeds all five workers combined
In summary, the kid is fucking retarded.

It's about the utility monster.

WTF I thought this board was about vidya.

no, you're thinking of /vg/

>those last 3-4 sentences

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Nah, this can't be real.

>come in for puzzles
>its a Hitler Trump white supremacy shitpost fest

Of course

You know, this reminds me of a puzzle I once heard.

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A and E?

might as well be D and E

That's not bullshit that's just boring

It mentions the trees were planted at different times, but it only asks for the distance between them. How does the time factor in?

God I hate pseudo-philosophy.

You know, sometimes the stupidest answers are the most correct. You win exactly 20 (twenty) picarats.

Wow you're really starting to remind me of a puzzle I hate right about now

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Speaking of Secret World, did they ever expand upon the whole "the Romans still exist somewhere in Africa" thing?

Thomas has 5 apples and Johnny has 7. I will not show my work.

You don't need a fucking thesis user, just look at One Piece. Adventure is still popular when done correctly. Vidya devs are just hacks at the moment. It's real simple.

The next content update is supposed to be Congo shit, and the promo art and old leaked concepts looked dope. Reeeeeally hard to put any faith in it tho.

You're lucky this isn't maths class, else you wouldn't get your 20 (twenty) picarats.
Oh, and speaking of maths, I just thought of a puzzle.

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3!=6

It's just superfluous information and red herrings to throw you off.
If they didn't imply that trees being neighbors were an important detail, you would not immediately settle with the false premise of "closest trees in sequential order".

If you're a regular human being who isn't fucked in the head, it's just designed to make you feel foolish. If you didn't immediately think "A and E", you're supposed to acknowledge it as the only possible truth and carry on. It's trying to train you to be an autistic lawyer or turbojew, so you make no assumptions and never refer to peripheral context when rules are established.

You know, like that asshole "friend" who takes everything you say literally to the point of fucking you over at every opportunity. That's who Layton wants you to be.

Let the trolley run over the five people, and push the fat man to the track afterwards so that next trolley will run over him.

I hate the fucking infinite distance conundrum, its fucking stupid

if there is no end destination and the fucking turtle is objectively, physically, and mathematically moving slower than you, you will catch up to and overtake it

FUCK philosophy

I honestly don't understand why anyone has to be this long winded to disprove socialist/communist fuck sticks. They think they have a system that will make every man play fair underneath the cherry trees with eachother. Any rational adult knows that's fucking childish bullshit.

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But on a sphere the distance between D and E is the largest

That's nice, billy.

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It's kinda deep when you begin to think about infinites. The whole scientific outline of universe (galaxies stuck amidst ever-expanding chunks of infinite space) kinda resonates with it for me.

So then what is the answer, and how are you supposed to come to it?

Are you really this stupid? Workers owning the means of production doesn't mean state owned enterprises, that's just state capitalism. Worker owned means of production means that workers have direct ownership over their workplaces. One form of this is to maker workers shareholders with voting powers in their companies, but this is not the only way.

Yes but if you were to choose an angle between any two trees on the same sphere that allowed the tree to pass along the previous section of line as closely as possible while approaching the targeted tree the longest line would be between A and E because that same line would not be able to be made from E around to A or E around to D as it would cross over itself.

At least 24. Some parts could just be left white

Not quite, as we're not just looking for permutations of 3 items, as we can also use the same colour twice for non-adjacent segments of the flag.
The wildcard is that you may also choose not to paint a segment of the flag, giving 4 possible colours to permutate.

The trick is that the player may wrongly assume that you're meant to choose two neighbouring trees, or that the depth cues in the picture such as varying height and narrowing road might show that two trees are deceptively further or nearer than they appear. Of course, it's a Layton game, and the pictures are just visual aids for the most part, and the two trees on opposite ends of the row are obviously the furthest apart.

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4 * 3 * 3 = 36

The first section can be any of four colors, the next section can be any of the remaining 3, and the same is true of the third with regard to the second.

>Worker owned means of production means that workers have direct ownership over their workplaces

What kind of delusional 16 year old bullshit is this? Have you ever worked an actual job in your life?

Posting the classic bullshit Layton puzzle

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36 if white is a color or 12 if it's not

Wow I just remembered how much I hate this

Why did this bitch eat some of my chocolate? The answer better be "I'll suck your dick" or she's catching these hands

TEXT ME

also >tfw no technophile gf

Absolutely right, you get 22 (twenty-two) picarats. Here's the next, with both the things you love: distances and colours. Lemme know if you wanna see the post-screens for the puzzles.

You know, if she's already your girlfriend, you're probably past sending her a gecy.

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dont you ever fucking reply to me again

A has to be green, and D can't be yellow, so I think A is Green, B is Yellow, C is Red, and D is Blue

>The red house is closer to the pine tree than the blue house
Does that mean the distance between pine tree and the red house is smaller than the pine tree and the blue house? Or is the distance between the pine tree and red house smaller than the distance between the red house and the blue house?

If you don't want to logic it out, just think of it this way:
>two furthest trees - what are they?
>nothing else matters, all that other shit about them being neighbors or in a row is pointless and wasted your time
>just which point to which two trees on the image are furthest apart you dumb nigger

It's pure logic if you just take the one established rule as absolute:
>you do not know the distance between the trees, so you can assume that every pair of trees has an equal distance
>this invalidates the assumption of "between which neighboring pair is the greatest distance", since they're probably all the same (can't know, not enough info)
>you do know that the arrangement of the trees is a row
>this means that objects on opposite ends would be furthest apart no matter how the objects between them are arranged

You have 4 possibilities for the first section. Then, you have 3 possibilities for the second section because you don't want it to have the same color as the first. You have 3 possibilities for the thirs section as well because you don't that one to be the same color as the second section.
Therefore it's 4*3*3=36

You can generalize this with n colors and m sections (n and m > 1) :
Number of possibilities = n*(m-1)*(n-1)

Those are the both same way, you just skip the bullshit in the first one.

Your generalized formula is very off. It's n * (n-1) ^ (m-1)

Oups im dumb thank you

>; each question must be put to exactly one god.
>Boolos provides the following clarifications:[2] a single god may be asked more than one question,

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what did you read

The shortest distance between two points is always zero, because any two points in our perceivable space are actually contiguous in some other universe, postulating infinity. Therefore, all the trees are equidistant.

Not quite. The first is an intuitive understanding that a layman could know, the other is trained and deliberate.

The difference is that the skilled individual will recognize any permutation of that same scenario because they know what to filter and avoid, while the intuitive individual will catch a few - but not all - situations and might get caught up in some pointless details.

Contrast a professional debater and an impassioned politico. The debater can talk about anything and defend or attack the central point of an argument while giving a good show, whereas the politico has their convictions about a few specific topics and can only rely on showmanship and appeal to spectators to score a win.

It's the difference between someone who does or does not get mad on Yea Forums.

That one is easy as shit though

I haff tvelve metchsteek.

That changes the relationship, but doesn't make it impossible or nonsensical.
It just means one god can answer multiple questions, but one question cannot be asked to multiple gods.

There is actually 2 ways to solve this, 1 is to do it normally and the other...

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If D=b, C=r; then you wouldn't comply with 1., which is that r-tree > b-tree, because D-tree > C-tree. Of course, you can't swap them, either, as D!=r.

Hint:
C=r

You're starting headaches here, so I'll reassure you that it's distance from house to tree is smaller than the distance from another house to the same tree.

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FUCK YOU!

I like the obscure literary reference in the turtle panel.

You have cancer. Fucking thing didn't mention you have to UNSCRAMBLE the fucking circled letters.

kill all commies

This is a professor layton puzzle, so the answer is probably garbage like "oh it's between A and those trees in the background".

>of the five trees
I dunno, it's being awfully specific about just those trees.

Nah, unless the Paedowikia's wording is incorrect it's perfectly clear:
>each question must be put to
>a single god may be asked
In both cases there is an actor, he who poses the question to a god, a passive participant until that point.

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One and three
Two two
Three one

Try again. If they both had two, giving up two would result in zero, of which nothing can be a multiple.

I mean... The answer is obviously zero right?

A = green, B = blue, C = Red, D = Yellow

They start with one and three. Both examples are anew. So one and three would become two - two. One and three becomes three and one. So one and three works for both examples

We get the pair of numbers from J-1 = T+1, ergo J=T+2, so J is always greater than T, ruling out J=1,T=3; and J=2,T=2.

After this, we get the puzzle. J+2=3(T-2). If we substitute J=3,T=1 into this; we get 3+2=3(1-2); simplifying into 5=3(-1), which is very wrong indeed.

Using J=7,T=5; we get 7+2=3(5-2); simplifying into 9=3(3).

100% correct, you've earned 27 (twenty-seven) picarats to spend however you like. Here's an especially stupid puzzle as your reward.

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If you immediately know the candle light is fire, the meal was cooked a long time ago.

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C

pls dont look im stupid

I think?

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I figured out the idea of the puzzle but it kept ending up as meaningless gibberish because at first I didn't notice the bites, and then I thought they were oriented differently.

If you solved this without a guide you're a fucking liar.

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Not quite right. You can see in the figures that the 'man' icon is pointed at by the 'triangle' icon, meaning it's to the right side of the 'spade' icon.
Here's my solution, since this one's idiotic:
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You and your picarats are dead. Unfortunately, even in death are puzzles.

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It's the phone.

Beginner's luck. Whatever the case, I'm done for the night, and this mess of a thread can go back to puzzling world politics or whatever it was.

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The fuck do you mean beginners luck? It's the only item on that list that required another one to be used.