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i don't buy games from stores or in general so i don't care.

The hilarious thing is they are taking down hunting videos despite selling hunting items themselves.

This will stop shootings for sure!

post yfw not an amerimutt so you dont get shot everywhere you go and your vidya is safe

The word you mean is guns.
The thing that /pol/tards are murdering people with arent vidya. Its guns.

>be american
>get shot

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they should be removing rap cds instead desu

Do people still buy cds?

Walmart still only sells censored CDs, but keep being outraged
GAMERS RISE UP DRUMPF IS TAKING AWAY MUH TOYS

Fucking this

They should be removing pails of water instead

Americans can never die, because they live rent free forever in foreigners' heads

>the start of the end for AAA
perfect

Did niggers ever not steal cds?

But white people don't listen to rap.

Good job Drumpfshits.

Guns are fine. I have guns. Lots of people have guns. 99%+ of people with guns go through their lives without harming anyone.

>buying games
>buying games at walmart
>going to walmart

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*American AAA

>Meanwhile violent tv shows will get played on the TV's
Just another day in Merica

>MUH DRUMPF

This is bi-partisan. The Democrats constantly push for it as well.

walmart will never stop sucking dicks

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As a wageslave currently in a Walmart electronics it's driving me insane hearing the same two looping ads since they wiped all the others ones over this shit

Doesn't Walmart sale guns?

>implying anyone actually works at Walmart
Whenever I buy something from Walmart and even Kroger I have to still bag my own fuckin groceries. I understand self checkout is phasing out jobs but I want to be lazy when I buy a fuckload not have to do someone else's job.

Would America honestly be better if Hilary was President?

Really? Because Hilary "The Bogeyman" Clinton spoke against it.

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But they sell fucking guns.
Amerilardland is so fucking retarded.

VIOLENCE GOOD
TIDDY BAD

GUNS GOOD
VIDEOGAMES BAD

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>shooting occurs
>"It's because of their hobby"
>never mention it in manifesto
>blame it anyway for radicalization

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They just had a mass shooting happen at one, this is baby shit. Not like they've stopped selling the games either

youtube.com/watch?v=JOkQJm_UGM4
LET S GET ME A RYTHM

Yep

WE'RE SAVED BROS

THEYVE STOPPED GUN VIOLENCE

based walmart

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uh, no, sweetie

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>IT'S MENTAL ILLNESS
>IT'S VIDEO GAMES
>IT'S WHITE SUPREMACISTS
>IT'S JUST A TOOL
>TO STOP "BAD" PEOPLE WITH GUNS WE NEED "GOOD" PEOPLE WITH GUNS. MAYBE IF WE JUST ALL START WALKING AROUND STRAPPED LIKE WE'RE FUCKING CLINT EASTWOOD THEN....
the level a mental gymnastics is absurd

This is clearly the fault of liberals and sjws

i can't believe hillary clinton flip flopped on an issue

Except in America, of course.

Trump's been after video games before Presidency.
He's gunning for it for the votes soon.

Fucking retarded boomers.

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Yeah.

Is it the early 2000s again? Maybe Jack Thompson makes a comeback.

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>muh guns
They aren't the only country with guns but they are the only country with constant violent rampages.

No, they were also instructed to make sure no violent shows are playing on the TVs, and that no hunting videos are playing in the Sporting goods section either.
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Unironically, how do we stop mass shootings in America?

Let Sweden show you how it's done

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More white people listen to rap than blacks. It's been that way since the mid 90s.

>leaves a fucking blog about him doing it for for hating immigrants and following Trumps hate rhetoric
>"IT WAS THE VIDEO GAMES, BAN THEM"

This is literally arguing against boomer parents.

Why is there never anyone bagging and why are there only 2 registers manned? Why are greeters still a thing?

>Big Corporation does retarded shit
>blames the entire country
Noose yourself.

lol, aren't you Americans suppose to be better than those evil brown people that scare you so much? why are you trying so hard to replicate their problems lmao what a shithole country you guys live in to have citizens actively support mass shootings and killing people lmao

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BASED

You remove Jews and niggers.

They should be removing FBI agents instead

Solve the thousands of issues that are making people angry and living with despotism and mental illness. If it were easy to fix it would have been fixed already.

>But they continue selling guns

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Remove the Guns, it's that simple

Damn. At least Walmart is somewhat consistent then.

Still retarded however

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When v turns into pol.

Hillary Clinton used to be a major anti vidya campaigner
That woman just goes for whatever policy she thinks will get her votes, trump may be a bit of a fag but at least he stands for something other than himself.

remove blacks

Guns are good, how else are you supposed to kill tyrants?

>gunman literally proclaimed himself to be a white nationalist and wrote a fucking manifesto describing his hate for Mexican immigrants
>the video games are to blame

Why is the right so fucking stupid? American politics truly are the worst; both parties are cancer and third parties are a joke.

And also ban assault weapons.

Your trash shithole is literally ruled by corporations, so yes, you are fucking retarded as a whole.

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Literally just get rid of jews

I hate /pol/ but when the the government wanna take my fucking video games away, that's when I get upset.

We shouldn't stop at guns, we should make murder illegal too.

And after
One of the first things he did when he entered the Whitehouse was campaign against vidya so I don't know why people are surprised he is doing it now.

I mean, it is white supremacists

>we can sell tools of killing but video games where one uses those tools? that shit causes gun crime, don't ya know
Fuckin' conservashits.

>both parties are cancer

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weak
youtube.com/watch?v=OfWV4xzW4TU

Trump has flip-flopped 1000 more times than Clinton ever did.
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Taking away guns doesn't stop people from committing violent acts. They'll just use a different tool because it's instrumental violence; not a crime of convenience.

>shitty news website creates clickbait headline to appeal to outrage culture
wow who would have guessed

Clinton spoke against it? Despite being one of the biggest proponents of video game censorship in the 90s, 2000s and 2010s? Jesus Christ, the Democrats really cannot help themselves, can they? Trump could open the borders and give every illegall immigrant an American home confiscated from a white person and they'd turn against that.

>White supremacy.

One of the mass shooters that day was black, the other was a left wing socialist. There is no white supremacy movement in the US that is actually a threat to anyone.

>believing the manifesto hoax

I hope your family gets shot next

>TFW The industry is so fucking shit at this point that I am fine with retarded Republicans killing it and causing a crash

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At least we have an economy, you poorfag third worlder.
End your life immediately.

/pol/ deletion when?

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Fix the mental health system and make the country less horrible to live in in general.

when you can buy still buy gun ammunition in walmart maybe they should change that first

>shooter's social media showed he was a diehard leftist Antifa-type
>actually believing he would suddenly heel turn and go full 1488 just days before the shooting
It was a false flag.

That's an insanely biased source and almost everything on the list is a fabrication.

Seethe more faggot

Why don't americans just put up signs telling people to not shoot guns at other people?

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I can't tell what's more chilling.
>a big corporation censoring music they don't like in the guise of curation (which will never apply to larger artists)
>a literal nursery rhyme about lockdown. LOCKDOWN.When kids are actively in danger and it is a life threatening situation.

>>gunman literally proclaimed himself to be a white nationalist

No, he didn't, he actually said he wasn't racist. Stop watching CNN.

I bet you believe the Christchurch shooter was also a white nationalist.

mass shootings are a meme
the more attention the media gives them the more you'll see suicidal incels commit them. It's just like school shootings. Before Columbine school shootings never happened. The media spent a ton of time focusing on that event and made sure everyone in the country knew all about it and the shooters. That's what convinced other losers to shoot up their own schools and kicked off the school shooter meme.

*incites terrorism in your path*

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I'm just explaining it to you in a simple way. You don't need to get defensive.

Every other country besides America has violent entertainment, similar economic and cultural issues, and still manages to experience less mass-shootings in years than America does in half a year. The only common difference is guns.

That would only solve like half the issues.

His hatred for immigrants was due to a desire to see a population drop due to climate change. He's an eco-terrorist.

You can buy guns too, they sell mossbergs and probably others.

gasoline is a controlled substance in japan and kyoani still happened

It's not any of the things on that list. Literally, the only problem is people. Pol Pot was the greatest man who ever lived. He was going to end gun crime for good but the fucking Vietnamese got in the way. Destroy humanity and the world will be at peace again. Hail the world destroying flu.

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timmy2knuckles is straight triggered

I love when these fucking idiots play dumb to pretend the have the moral high ground

Stay mad and get shoot, amerilard.

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>Loves Israel
>Blames video games for mass shootings
>Old and overweight
>Loves McDonald's

Is Trump the king of boomers?

>autistic incels can't take their rage out on games anymore
>they actually go outside and kill real people instead

Why is this world so retarded?

meanwhile John Wick killing 1000000000 people, on Blu-ray now!

>to the tune of Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star
holy kek

I don't even get this, it's been proven over again and again that video games don't send people out on violent rampages (usually). Walmart is just shooting itself in the foot because president cheeto poof wants a distraction.

And taking guns away from everybody is literally unconstitutional. This debate is a nonstarter.

>decades of growing up being told you are da best and everyone else shit has left America and its citizens with a shitload of enemies real and imaginary
>9/11 was the proverbial noise outside the window for the already deathly scared american hiding under the covers
>now vast numbers of americans are literally insane and unable to trust themselves, other people, science and even common knowledge

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All of those tweets are real. Look them up.

The constitution is wrong.

It's usually the especially stupid people in america that do the shootings. And that's taking into account the dumbasses already here.

improve education, but you can't because Republicans benefit off of stupid people

improve support for mental issues, but you can't because Republicans benefit off of mass shooters and death

improve gun control, but you can't because Republican need people who love guns to support them

Not all guns, just assault weapons. The constitution says you have the right to bear arms, not to bear arms without limit.

>retarded
perfectly sane course of actions you dildo

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I have never purchased any sort of video game or accessory from Walmart nor have I ever planned to. That dump is only good for cheap groceries and a show featuring poor people

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cope tranny faggot. Your party is in shambles.

What's a good first gun? I kinda want a revolver because of western movies and that scene from Taxi Driver where he says wheel guns are reliable.

>Before Columbine school shootings never happened. The media spent a ton of time focusing on that event and made sure everyone in the country knew all about it and the shooters.

They know this user, that’s why they behave the way they do. These shootings are lucrative to everyone. Media gets their views, politicians get their propaganda, gun companies get their sales. Even subtle things like creating anxiety among the populace to sell some pills for big pharma (which most shooters are on I might add). All at the cost of the lives of some nobodies. The system perpetuates these attacks for its benefit.

this is why America is so fucked
they have to at least get rid of l assault rifles like do you really need a fucken military grade guns to kill a deer no then why do they still sell them to the public

>At least we have an economy
That's literally owned by China lmao

If you delete /pol/, every board will become /pol/.
Unless the mods are willing to put prep time into this and collect all IPs that post on /pol/ for a month or two beforehand and rangeban them all in one fell swoop, deleting /pol/ would just lead to a gamergate purge struggle except 100x worse, every board would be raided 24/7 for months

Anyways it'll never happen, Hiro makes lots of shekels of /pol/'s traffic, he doesn't care about the state of the site, only that it keeps printing money.

So walmart stops selling video games.
We get bored, as there's no games to play that invovle shooting.
They still sell guns.
???
Profit.

Fucking nice, we're this much closer to having The Purge be real.

Not an argument.

And if your limit is subjectively decided that limit could be lowered to zero. Any limit is an infringement. That's literally the point of it being included in the constitution. If you can litigate it to become effectively worthless you have undermined the fundamental reason it's there to begin with.

>imagine being this retarded

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Except plenty of other countries with those things have guns as well.

Shut up nigger, they'll just use better methods.

Most gamers don't buy their shit on Walmart unless it's a console on black Friday. No one but Walmart's own sales will be effected

>Getting this frustrated over criticism

Need a safe space, kiddo?

You don’t need military gear to kill deer, you need them to kill tyrants

>Every board will become /pol/

So nothing changes?

As of late, yes. Historically? No. Natzi larpers commandeered the mass shooting.

They literally took minutes to reload a rifle after every bullet fired when the constitution was written though.

(you)

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is there any democrat-run city problem you can't blame on republicans

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It’s real.
twitter.com/shepardcdr/status/1159235488898830338

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>every board will become /pol/.
And how is that any different from now?

The U.S. government is not armed with muskets. The point is so that the general populace has an option to overthrow the government, but if you take all of the effective weapons away from the people you take that option off of the table because the armed forces in the country are not obeying those same limitations. That's the problem.

>muh ARs
>please think of the children

>be american
>get shot

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The true redpill

Why do Americans continue to embarrass themselves in front of the world and still continue to do so?

Aren't you guys suppose to be the best country ever? Why are there mass shootings every other week? Why are so many of your citizens depressed? Why are the young people in your country so isolated and neck-deep in debt? I just don't understand how your country just continues to fuck up on basic shit that other countries have solved literally decades ago.

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This is what happens when you let women vote.

only toilet boards like Yea Forums are currently /pol/ colonies
if /pol/ goes though, every single board will be raided by /pol/, even dead boards like /po/

Jews

>No more hunting, goyim
>Eat uncle schlomo's mystery meat instead

cringe

I predicted this was gonna happen someday. If sexual elements in video games were getting censored, what was stopping them from eventually censoring violence as well? They just needed a reason.

Doesn't matter if it's the left or the right; people will keep blaming outside materials for tragedies instead of the individuals you perpetrated them.

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America became a shithole after 9/11. Please understand.

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They were well aware of technological innovations in firearm technology at the time that the constitution was written.

Hyperviolent games these days are all indie games. Outside of your Call of Duty or Battlefield, I can't think of many games this is going to affect.
And the only people who are going to notice that Walmart no longer sells Call of Duty aren't exactly the sort to post here.
>"but slippery slope"
Maybe. When the Targets here removed GTAV, that was the beginning and end of it. Retarded business decisions aren't that prone to snowballing.
>"but being politically correct snowballed"
In game design decisions, yeah, since sniveling sycophants argued that it wouldn't affect sales. Especially in indie game circles, where pandering to the vocally outspoken was free marketing.

Ultimately there's not much to be done about it from a consumer point of view. Continue to not buy from Walmart? Way ahead of you.

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Oh you're all retarded, that makes sense

>please stop making our voters so stupid, republicans

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You'd be surprised to hear that not every board gets constant Twitter screencaps and political bullshit every other thread. It's just that since Yea Forums is about as mainstream as it gets as far as hobbies goes you tend to get a lot of normalfags who believe that it's their right to shill dumb opinions that you don't agree with thus creating endless "discussion" for people to see.

>the video games are killing us
anti-video game hysteria being stirred up by leftists.

Fake. Those are for tornadoes.

The only people with the ability to change the status quo are the people who benefit from the status quo
>Just vote them out!
But if I do that then the other party might win!

He was

Even better.

>And if your limit is subjectively decided that limit could be lowered to zero.
That's a fallacy. That's like saying if you regulate corporations you could make them forcibly part of the government. In nowhere but the most extreme of situations would that occur.
>Any limit is an infringement.
So should free speech, the first amendment, also not be limited at all? Should I be able to shout fire in a crowded theatre, burn a flag in front of a veterans parade? Consider your words.
>That's literally the point of it being included in the constitution.
I don't think you've read or understood the constitution in any meaningful way.

Good. Let's see how all the SJW Basedboys feel having something they love fucked with by an outside group. They'll get to experience what they've been inflicting upon everyone else. I unironically hope violent videogames get massive pushback.

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They should ban guns

*white people

>99%+ of people with guns go through their lives without harming anyone
I’m at a loss for words of this idiocy and I lack the sufficient reaction pic to express my dumbfoundedness so I’ll just give you a big fat WHAT

It's only Western AAA's that would crash anyway and that industry desperately needs one.

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>republicans did this

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Its simple murrica be like Japan.
Sex good, gore/drugs bad.

The same reason why your countries are being overrun with weaponized brown people

the tribe must be wiped out if the world is to ever improve

Shoulda linked to infowars or cuck report amirite?

This is how gun violence starts

It is hilarious how badly conservatives are trying to cope with white nationalism terror

what is the girandoni air rifle, furthermore repeating rifles had existed since the 1600s, they just didnt have a viable method to make a long lasting one that wasnt hilariously expensive until the 1800s, for all intents and purposes they knew that technological change was inevitable

Big country. Big problems.
Getting literally anything to change with the government is a nightmare and mix that with states that vote for completely different policies that is almost guaranteed to hurt other states, and nobody likes each other. Two parties that now are so radicalized that bi-partisan legislation means that you're getting fucked in the ass. At least we were originally promised that despite all this, we'd at least get to say and do what we want.
Time to move.

Guns didn't turn him into a radical white nationalist. There are over 100 million guns in the US, why isn't there a white nationalist shooting every single day?

The people wouldn't be able to overthrow the government anyway at this point
>he thinks a handful of rednecks with wal-mart guns are going to do anything but get deleted by drones and precision strikes
lmao

The US also has the biggest military industrial complex. The general populace (who are mostly untrained by the way) wouldn't stand a chance in the event of an "uprising" in the modern age. You really think buying the latest Rambo gun will do much against drones, bioweapons and shit. It's all a meme to sell their products and keep the cycle of gun culture going.

Only the ones getting paychecks from the NRA

>At least we have an economy
You mean piggy backing off of China's economy? lamo

Japan has video games yet they don't seem to have this problem.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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what did republicans mean by doing this

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>Doesn't matter if it's the left or the right; people will keep blaming outside materials for tragedies instead of the individuals you perpetrated them.
Imagine being so shortsighted
>the individuals who perpetuated them
This isn’t even necessary anymore. There is nothing stopping government spooks from murdering say a movie theater. Who is going to prove them wrong? They control the information.

They can ban anything they want. Let’s say the system decides the book 1984 is problematic. What do you do? Gun down a school and include quotes in the shooters manifesto. Doesn’t work?

Do it again. Breaking down the psyche with violence until the masses relent and you get what you want.

Do people buy physical anymore?

Idiot, It's really not the guns, if anything the fact that these people are ONLY using guns, not surreptitious explosive devices or chemical weapons is absolutely a blessing. The worst part is, you literally can't do anything about the chemical weapon problem even if you wanted to. !!! I AM NOT ENDORSING THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS !!!

you are delusional

Guess its never the libtards fault, right?

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There is. It's just not reported because of biased right wing control in the media

Because gaslighting is a real thing, the 40IQ cousin fucking hicks in the flyover state would believe that the sky is purple if Trump said so, thats why hes still so popular

It's a publicity stunt to capitalize on the popularity of the shootings, kind of genius actually, their video game sales are shit, but the attention this move will bring will be worth the lost sales and much much more.

Stop giving clickbait attention you retards.

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Holy shit this. Please just let it crash, this industry needs a reboot.

I think you deserve to have your entire family killed

N-no.. they just don't report their mass shootings, incel! Are you getting ready to shoot up a place, INCEL? baka senpai wh*te people, everyone.

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Lmao! What a bunch of retards.
Do this and kill your Company. Consumers will go else where with their money.

It's not a fallacy. Unless you're limiting the weapons the armed forces in the U.S. can use as well you cannot expect the general population to limit their weapons either. See for clarification.

Do not try to compare the limitations on free speech when it's intended to do harm and limitations that can actually cause harm. That's a false equivalence. You're failing to acknowledge the SINGULAR reason the right to bear arms is included. For the people to keep their government in check. Advocating that right be taken away or limited endorses the idea that the people should no longer be able to resist a tyranny. I'll repeat myself. The U.S. armed forces are not giving up their automatic weapons.

Having a car doesn't mean you're automatically wired to run someone over fuck nugget.

Mass shootings still make up minority of the gun violence in US. Most of the deaths are result of individual killings.

Honestly, yes.

>burn a flag
that is legal faggot, texas v johnson. the only way it isn't is if you stole it in which case it's destruction of property

But half the shooters aren't right winged?

Good. It should be harder for children to be exposed to violence. I wish retailers did more to ensure only adults made purchases of violent material.

>This fucking retard actually thinks he and his mobility scooter friends could rise up and take down the military
LMAO

> good first gun
> immediately goes for a pistol
user no
get a larger gun that's easier to handle and direct. pistols are for experts who understand gun safety and operation.

> reliable
use shit ammo and there will be problems, it doesn't matter what gun you use. shit ammo = shit reliability.
a gun itself should never break in the course of its operational functions if well maintained. if a gun is repeatedly malfunctioning, it's because a part is out of specification and needs to be replaced.

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>teacher is one of the first to get in

What if america ditched pc culture and progressivism altogether and instead of promoting violence in their media they then went the way of the weeb, making sexy and lewd anime girls to spread their love all across the land. Why can't we have this instead?

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/pol/ is doing overtime on damage control
apparently the left is recruiting incels with right wing ideology to shoot people in public because Clide and his M16 are a threat to the military's bombs and drones

Not a good enough reason to defy the constitution. These are not legitimate arguments.

Kill your family

HURRY UP AND BLAME THE GAMES ELSE WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT GUNS ARE A PROBLEM

Because this goes against jews plans.

lol you dipshits think the NRA is bankrolling the entire RNC. It's the people who fund the NRA who fund the RNC, the same people you vilify are about 50% of the population of the US. If you don't like it you can take a short flight on a long helicopter ride commie shitbag.

They actually removed our people greeters in my store and because we have either minimum or maximum staffing for saving money I'd guess at? Idk

6% of the population commit 50% of mass killings. Why is it only whites that get blamed? Be honest with me Yea Forums.

Why target the military when you can target politicians, their families, and corporate fat cats

>gamers are literally oppressed

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NAZI

this board is being slid hard today the trannies are restless

the only one having a delusion here is the person who can't smell how badly this particular shooting stinks

So what is it then? Because they're not the only country with video games either

Your the only country with a mass shooting problem in the first place.

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>tfw the NRA is running out of money and are begging people for money

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The mission statement has grammar and punctuation mistakes, and what the fuck kind of quality is "exceedingly measurable?"

based retard
there are already regulations on "military grade guns" being available to your typical citizens

I bet you don't even know the difference between semi-automatic and fully automatic firearms. Not to mention a majority of gun violence in America is committed with your typical semi-automatic handgun. And most gun-related deaths are suicides. A dumbass martyring themselves and chimping once or twice a week in a country of 300 million+ people is not an epidemic and hardly puts a dent into all the gun-related deaths that already occur outside of mass shootings.

Every single shooter including the El Paso one was a Trump supporter, right wing, and nazi sympathizer. Stop living under a rock.

Isn't this world a lovely place? Where you can just make up whatever false "facts" you want and repeat them until they become true in your mind.

Wagie, Wagie, open the door

Turn the lights on, say no more

Go behind the desk and work, wait until it's dark outside

Work's done, work's done, it's all done

Now it's time to have some sleep!

oy vey, SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT IT DOWN.

>Nn

N IS FOR NUT

Imagine being a Gun owner or a gamer in the (Current Year) and dealing with dumb shit like this

this is actually extremely hilarious of them
ask them if they think people support abortion rights because of planned parenthood kickbacks or if people that support abortion rights support planned parenthood and politicians that support planned parenthood

Mass shootings only happened with an increased frequency after the columbine media frenzy. CNN is literally the problem

oh great
people will start to buy shit at gamestop again

>dude just ban guns lmao
>its just that easy lmao
>that will make all the gun deaths in your county go away lmao
do you foreigners actually believe this garbage?

Why do (((((they))))) have to ruin everything?

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Good, now they'll be forced to promote Japanese games.

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>(((CNN)))

Now lemme tell you about this manifesto that totally exists and shows right ring people are all insane murderers. No no, dont pay attention to the rampant pedophilia in the LGBT community and literal children twerking at pride rallies. This is about our super real manifesto.

>expecting a crash
>when mouthbreathers are gonna buy borderland 3 in DROVES after they find out Randy fucks kids

Because leaving the world to jews and coloreds will improve things.

Jesus Christ I can't stop laughing! Thanks, user.

>a literal nursery rhyme about lockdown. LOCKDOWN.When kids are actively in danger and it is a life threatening situation.
I had the same reaction at first, but after thinking about it for a moment I realized that its not too much different than Ring Around the Rosie.

The statistics don't lie, Cletus.

the constitution was literally intended to be amended over time as society changed
dumbfucks that can't understand this and think the country is exactly the same as it was 200 years ago are responsible for so much of the shit wrong with this country

>using flat numbers
>not differentiating between motives of shooters
Oh user, please tell me your education didn't teach you basic statistical analysis.

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Ugly physically and spiritually, their hatred of everyone else led to relentless inbreeding and resulting mental illness

Prevent single, unemployed white men from buying guns completely. Problem solved.

That media bias skews left moron. There isn't a single news outlet besides obvious partisan outliers that doesn't hate white people or celebrates blacks or communist ideology. They all love bernie sanders, they all love black minority POCs, they all hate trump and guns.

>Dayton shooter was antifa
>H-HE WAS A TRUMP SUPPORTER
fucking moron

>i get my news from FOX

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False
It's a gun problem

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So amend it. None of your lunatic leftists are suggesting amending the Constitution, they just want everyone to do what they say right now.

All those blacks have licenses for the guns, definitely, right Tyrone?

Not an argument and also seek help
>Unless you're limiting the weapons the armed forces in the U.S. can use as well you cannot expect the general population to limit their weapons either.
Do you honestly believe that the contemporary American military, with drones, guided missiles, fighter jets, and whatever the fuck else, wouldn't be able to absolutely destroy any civilian population if they wanted to? Whether or not we allow publicly carried hunting rifles, people would stand absolutely no chance. you're speaking theoretically and are not considering an actual real world situation.
>Do not try to compare the limitations on free speech when it's intended to do harm and limitations that can actually cause harm.
So guns shouldn't be limited when they intend to do harm? What makes guns so special?

Forgive me for not taking your bullshit seriously when you can't even be bothered to type correct English. Go back to wherever the fuck you came from.

if she dies then how will they close it?
kids cant do it

my guy over 63k people were murdered in brazil in 2018 if you don't think those entailed mass shootings between gangs you are retarded

It was intended to be amended if the support from the people was there to ammend it.
The support isn't there.
Nigger.

Exactly,

People should own actual military grade equipment

well.. 8ch has been shut down for over 3 days now and i'm not seeing any difference, even going to /pol/ it still looks the same

Pretty much this. No one cares when its niggers killing niggers.

So where do you guys unironically go to buy groceries? I use a place called Skinner's and it's comfy as fuck. It's a small grocery store, but it's really cozy.

well if you literally were able to just make guns disappear, gun deaths would go away, but then stabbings, bombs, and trucks of peace would take their place

>the tribe must be wiped out if the world is to ever improve
QFT

You mean the same statistics that point out vast majority of gun crime is committed with illegally acquired firearms?
Banning guns will totally solve this issue right?

The thing is, most mass shootings are gang related, and just result from an argument about some petty shit turning into full-out brawl with people then pulling guns out.
They don't really have people writing manifestos or whatever, so after a while they'd start making for very boring news. "This week, once again, black gangs brawled, which resulted in one person shooting five others..."
Compare that to some nerd meticolously planning an attack, posting a manifesto to a website and then getting a kill count of over 20. That's way more interesting to average news consumer.

Don’t get me wrong, the death of two people is completely tragic and terrible, but people could and do cause more damage with cars daily.

Do you know how fucking stupid majority of Americans are? Or how they think they know something but they don’t know jack fucking shit about an issue. This is literally something Both the right, left and milddle do all the damn time

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False.

It’s a CNN problem.

Lmao i remember telling the sex faggots that violence would be censored too if they kept calling out on the hipocrisy
Now tits=bad
And violence=bad

>actually replying to the shitposter posting CNN and Mother Jones "gun facts" unironically
You know you're being shitposted right

That number would be close to France-tier if the US could curtail gang-violence, which is where the vast majority of these incidents occur.

Hang niggers

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You need to stop going to /pol/, it's giving you a warped view of reality.

Funny, we JUST put up a Mortal Kombat 1-3 demo stand in electronics.
I bought Tool Lateralus and Undertow last year, they were uncensored.

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Columbine was where it really started to show.

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By literal definition those arent mass shootings
Even if you go by gun violence / murder rate / whatever you pick the US still ranks up there among all the 3rd world countries

>no argument

Medical mistakes kill more people in a single day in America than an entire year of "gun deaths".

>stop selling guns
>suddenly there are less guns in circulation
>even if some are obtained illegally, the overall amount of firearms in the hands of violent people decreases
Wasting trips on Drumpfie cope should be a bannable offense.

Constitutional amendments exist. You act as if the Constitution was intended to never be modified. The exact opposite was intended

There is no argument.

You deserve to die,

Black on black crime doesn't exist nor do black people own guns, idiot.

don't forget fires, it's amazing the station fire hasn't been surpassed by an arsonist

Not good enough. According to you the government is so powerful they should be able to solve this problem with all of their advanced weaponry. But clearly that's not the case. If you take the weapons away from the people you prevent them from being able to defend themselves from ANY future. You want to turn the American people into defenseless suckers dependent on the government for everything. You can fuck right off. Guns in the hands of responsible, calm people are safe, so the answer is to make people responsible and calm. But you're not interested in that. You just want to shit on the constitution.

This is what you get for electing a retard like Trump. Reap what you sow cuckservitards.

>my favourite entertainment medium don't cause violence, you'd have to be an idiot to think it does
>but really it's this other entertainment medium, burn it all, it's corrupting us all!

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This

you can't unless you have an tight knit community where everybody knows each other but with 300+ million population it's literally impossible to stop violent crime

>Amerilards will take the vidya away before the gunz

Nice

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So if you have no argument then you admit i'm right? The general populace should not be allowed assault weapons?

So. Amend. It.

>Do you honestly believe that the contemporary American military, with drones, guided missiles, fighter jets, and whatever the fuck else, wouldn't be able to absolutely destroy any civilian population if they wanted to

None of that will save people like you. No matter what they have a bullet can end you.

So if they are against mass shootings that means they will stop selling guns right?

Retard.

>No one cares when its niggers killing niggers.
hmmmm... how many niggers do you think kill each other daily, monthly, yearly when compared to how many die from mass shootings that white people may happen to do?

Why is the latter always reported on when the former is completely ignored?

I wonder what's going on here.

>tfw started supporting gun control in America ironically after based Brenton opened my mind

I think you need to evict America from your head, its living rent free.

>i am going to define away the actual gun violence so i can harass people that don't do anything wrong because they don't vote for my oligarchs
very cool and i hope you get killed by a poltard real soon

Except they won't, you can't stab 60 people to death in a concert half a mile away from you, nor can you stab 30 people in a Walmart in 30 seconds.
Guncels will seethe at this post.

>mistakes in the medical field
versus
>intended murder with a gun
Guess which one is avoidable

Unironical answer?
Start killing conservatives, or at least the ones dumb enough to support Trump. In the rest of the world, the left and right have their disagreements but at least they're sane. Mostly thanks to political uprisings and wars over the years.

American conservatives have remained untouched for centuries, they're are simply too far gone, nothing will every change as long as they remain. Get rid of them and get a new right wing political party.

You have no argument

You deserve to die

>It's a /pol/ thread
>Muh juice
You subhumans deserve to be ruled over.

hes right though. The biggest problem is that were stuck with a broken 2 party system.

The right to bear arms is specifically included for a specific reason. Amending it to be less effective destroys the entire point of it. The people have a right to be as armed as their government is. That's the point. When you give more of that power in this balance to the government you are actually and deliberately defying the constitution.

>They all love bernie sanders
That's actually false. They love Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren but hate more outsider types like Bernie and Tulsi.

Based

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Not that guy but the military literally cant fight if they dont have a target.

Commies need to fucking hang

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>i hope you get killed by a poltard real soon
I'm not american I'm safe from mass shootings

>It's a "Yea Forums finally learns that Republicans are retards all over again" thread

cuz then you niggers would complain how there are too many people and muh degeneracy

>meanwhile you can still buy guns in walmart
Huh

>Rent free
>when I live in America

>that one seething kike butthurt his race has less of a future 60 IQ Africans

>first non-righty shooter in years
>"look, this totally invalidates the entire rest of the list, r-right guise?"
I would say stupidity should be punishable, but you voted in a president who keeps taking from you to give to the rich, so he's already handling the punishment.

>the US still ranks up there among all the 3rd world countries
If you've ever seen what Balitmore and Detroit look like then you would know that those cities are basically third-world.

>>decades of growing up being told you are da best and everyone else shit has left America and its citizens with a shitload of enemies real and imaginary

Americans stopped being told they were the best back in the 70s. I'm in my 30s and my entire upbringing was people telling me how guilty I should feel to be American because every horrible thing happening in the world is my fault/my responsibility to fix.

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Owning a gun is a right, owing videogames is a privilege. There's nothing in the constitution that guarantees citizens access to video games

You still haven't told me how a civilian population could mount any successful offense against a contemporary military. You can't prove it and you're grasping at straws. The country would be safe without assault weapons being generally available, this is a fact.

Silly comparison, cars have uses other than killing, primarily transportation. Guns have no practical use other than killing and/or severely harming someone.

>Area 51 "raid" will be a true test of the American people defying and standing up to the government
>no one shows up
Would be ironically hilarious

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And letters and newspapers took days and weeks to be exchanged when the constitution was written, so should the first amendment be done away with too?

They should because tyranny and etc, you don't know what tyranny is because your white ass never left the first world but trust me on this.

they also loved buttgag for a while, because he is literally their idea of a technocrat, but voters didn't
poor buttgag

It's the Eternal Boomer that's pushing for this regardless of their political ideologies, attacking video games grants them support among fellow technophobic boomers and hysterical church moms.

Imagine being democrat

Its time for LOCKDOWN.

>L is for "LOOK OUT HE HAS A GUN"
>O is for "OH NO HE FOUND US"
>C is for "CHILDREN GET DOWN."
>K is for "KILL THE OTHERS AND JUST LET ME BE"
>D is for "DODGE THE BULLETS SO YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE"
>O is for "OW, MY HEART"
>W is for "WHY AREN'T THE COPS HERE YET?!?!?"
>N is for "#NEVERAGAIN"

Do you have any idea how easy it is to get your hands on an illegal firearm in this country?
The government has been fighting this for several fucking decades tooth and nail and they've barely made a dent in it.
Unless you foreigners have a better idea other then "dude just ban them lmao" just shut the fuck up.

Hey, you voted Republican. I thought Yea Forums loved jews and Trump. Why are you mad? You guys LITERALLY voted for it. You can't be mad.

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No one cares about Area 51 to begin with, that entire story is fake.

>people do show up
>get used to test alien weaponry

Oh cool, another episode of "retarded eurocucks talking about American gun laws even though they know absolutely nothing about them"

>What's a good first gun? I kinda want a revolver because of western movies and that scene from Taxi Driver where he says wheel guns are reliable.

Revolvers are good for beginners but don't get a overpowered meme gun like a .44 magnum, as you will flinch at the hard recoil and very quickly dislike it.

Get a .357 magnum revolver by Smith & Wesson or Ruger if you want a safe, solid option. A .357 magnum can chamber .38 special which has a very mild recoil and you can have fun practicing while still having a sufficiently strong handgun.

A .22 revolver would probably be ideal for your very first, but if you're on a budget and can't afford two then I would just stick to a .357/.38 special revolver.

Some recommended models include a S&W Model 686 and the Ruger GP100.

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hopefully this site swings back to hating all forms of retarded authority, corporations and moralfaggotry

But i've been arguing this entire thread, so obviously I have a few. So you admit i'm right?

This was pretty clever actually. Got a chuckle out of me.

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That's not an argument to take away their fucking right you imbecile. The country would be less safe without weapons in the hands of civilians. You just lack the fucking imagination to envision a scenario in which the country is invaded or under the control of a tyrant.

Upload all the amrican people's brains into a super computer, use the bio mass in compost, turn the whole country into a natural preserve.

Whatever happened to him anyways?

>Owning a gun is a right
It shouldn't be. Especially for white people.

If the United States deported all brown people it would have roughly the same gun death rate as Belgium.

nah breivik will come for you, once he's been rehabilitated

you know the military swears an oath to uphold the constitution and a gun ban would just result in some fragged COs, right?

The two-party system was fine until (((they))) gained enough influence to give the lesser species the right to vote.

Yeah! Ban video games! That’ll prevent white supremacists from killing more innocent people! Guns? No that’s not the problem! We have a second amendment! Everyone has a right to a gun! Guns don’t kill people! People kill people! Video games are TOO dangerous! They allow would-be killers to practice killing methods! Oh, the next mass shooter didn’t play video games? Well he had mental problems instead. Him having access to weapons had nothing to do with it! The right to bear arms is something all Americans should be proud of! love how with every mass shooting conservatives have to place the blame on something else rather than the issue at hand. Can’t ever be guns, noooo guns were made to defend people, not kill them!

They're mindless ap- i mean they're victims of capitalism and we need to give them more foreign aid. FUCK WHITE PEOPLE, DEATH OF JFK BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

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But how does taking away video games actually help

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A few thousand neutron bombs.

If the majority of people wanted it.
Thankfully, most people still see the 2nd Amendment as a necessary safeguard, so it's not happening any time soon

This fills my heart with jubilee like you wouldn't believe.

>first non-righty shooter in years
I wasn't aware that all those black gang members in Chicago were right wingers. Try not to back pedal too hard.

it was mossad you cuck, a big time player in the human trafficking market was arrested recently and they want you to forget all about it.

Either balkanize America or impose tyranny, USA is too big and ideologically and culturally fractured country to exist as stable democracy.

Nuke the world ten times over

>"muh pol" shitposter ousting themselves
Why are you in this thread?

>the overall amount of firearms in the hands of violent people decreases
And the amount of stabbings, bombings, and peace-trucks go up ding dong. Removing guns primarily removes them from the hands of law-abiding citizens.
If you want to solve this, you need to remove the violent people from society through better mental health institutions and by cleaning up inner cities like what happened in New York in the 90's.

>Do you honestly believe that the contemporary American military, with drones, guided missiles, fighter jets, and whatever the fuck else, wouldn't be able to absolutely destroy any civilian population if they wanted to? Whether or not we allow publicly carried hunting rifles, people would stand absolutely no chance. you're speaking theoretically and are not considering an actual real world situation.
Isn't this the same army that lost to asian rice farmers and shitskin goat hearers?
Not very intimidating desu. Try again.

As i've explained multiple times, a civilian population can't compete with a contemporary military. The days of a plucky resistance group forming out a local militia are gone and never coming back. Not to mention human rights are being globally protected by alliances of western countries. If the US started abusing its population, do you think France Britain and the rest would stand by?

Actually, reporting that half-apes are causing terror everyday because they're not in a zoo would work towards removing their ability to vote for democratic leaders and would breed racists.

I wouldn't put it past the government to do something like that, but is there any concrete evidence that it's happened, at least in America? Legitimately curious.

GAMERS RISE UP

Defund the CIA

...

Why won'tr resetera leave us alone?

libshits keep using Israel as a point of deflection to divide the GOP. Notice how they call jews fascistic pigs and evil, it's literally pure projection.

Not true. They could just as easily build a bomb.

>not to bear arms without limit
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

There are good video games, there's no good rap. Check. Fucking. Mate.

6% of the population commit 50% of mass killings. How about instead we ban that 6% of the population versus shredding the foundation of this country?

If that was the case they wouldn’t bother with trying to ban guns

No. The elite know their lives can get ended by the pull of a trigger

...

NOOOOOOOOOOO WE DEFEATED HIM WHY IS THIS HAPPENING

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I'm only for it since trying to grab guns will definitely kickstart a second civil war.

CARS AREN'T DESIGNED TO KILL PEOPLE YOU FUCKING IDIOT

Actually some of them are, brazilian here and the police and factions sometimes just enter a random bar in the favela and murder everyone, google "chacina Brasil favela milícia" and translate an article

yes you are all literally client states

Hes right though, but he also mad

And you lack the fucking explanation i've asked you for, because deep down you know i'm right and you have no other argument other than "Muh constitution" which doesn't even make sense when you consider the founding fathers wanted the document to be rewritten as new information came to light. Eat shit.

Actually owning video games is a constitutional issue. First amendment, the right to speech guarantees you have the right to print your speech, art is speech, games are art, therefore you are guaranteed your titty games by the constitution.

>you need to remove the violent people from societ
Good idea, get rid of white people.

>At least we have an economy
With all the american(china) made products you manufacture, right?

BLACK LIVES MATTER

Absolutely based gamers are the scum of the earth.

Stay on topic, shitposter.

She's not wrong.

>The notice from Walmart instructs employees to unplug “PlayStation and Xbox units” specifically. For now, it looks like Nintendo can keep their Switch units up and running, as those don’t display any violent games.
Based nintendo saving video games from incels.
Sony/Xbox containment board when?

>If you've ever seen what Balitmore and Detroit look like then you would know that those cities are basically third-world.

People who say this have no fucking clue what "third-world" actually means.

People in Baltimore and Detroit live like kings compared to people in third-world nations. There's no comparison, they aren't even close to being that bad. They're shit relative to the rest of the US but calling them "basically third-world" makes you sound like an idiot.

The government having an extreme amount of firepower is not an argument to take guns away from the people YOU FUCKING MORON IT'S AN ARGUMENT TO GIVE MORE FIREPOWER IN THE HANDS OF CIVILIANS.

Knowing Walmart it's just an excuse to save money on fewer displays while still appearing "socially conscious." This is the company that labels "THIS BOX COST $0.33" on the internal use cardboard boxes to avoid recycling them no matter how fucked up they get.

Yes. Using man-made relics of the past to decide the course of the future is a bad idea. Just like how cybercrime laws from the 90s hardly cover what is capable today. Those in positions of power are too lazy and stubborn to work together, do their research and make real concrete changes. That's the real problem.

>/pol/tards

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This is my perspective as an australian
A lot of it really does come down to Israeli subversion
On top of that you have the government realising that if you keep the populace poorly educated, divided and overly obsessed with race they will fail to notice when you fuck them over, you saw this a few elections back here when both parties ran their entire campaign on saying they would stop refugees from settling here more than the other party would.

If the 0.1% seriously thought there was ANY risk of an uprising happening then guns would be out of civilian hands within the month.

Taliban
And yes, the US has nukes so everyone would just watch it like we do with North Korea

All of the retards ITT saying that "hurr the military has tanks and drones your guns are USELESS against those" are parroting the same fucking mentality that caused the US to get it's ass kicked in Vietnam.

...

>"Hey, New York has decided to defect."
>"FUCKING WE GOT OUR FIGHTER JETS, DRONES, AND BIG ASS BOMBS, FLATTEN THE ENTIRE CITY WHO GIVES A FUCK?"

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>/pol/tards
First off, please die cuck. Fucking sick of seeing disgusting resetera-tier faggots posting here like they belong. You don't, get the FUCK out.

Second, one of the shooters last week was an antifag. Probably your boyfriend, you disgusting faggot. You make me fucking sick you traitorous cunt.

>Americans will no longer get to play online games

Please happen

>No toys for you because some unstable person committed murder

O-okay.

Make it illegal to not conceal carry and have tax benefits for those who open carry

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neither are guns.

I thought Walmart doesn't sell automatic weapons though? Nobody has ever comitted a mass shooting with a normal handgun.

Honestly this violent video game ban thing is gonna just shoot Trump's chance at reelection in the foot. A lot of the young voters play video games, and you just fractured any chance of getting a strong voter base. Expect the Dems to win in 2020 to fix this shit

No, they just toast moe factories.

based

#BlueLivesMatter
Molon Labe

Hey wait a sec.....

>RACISM BAD

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Reminder that every 2nd amendment zealot let the 4th go without a whimper of protest because it was their party that did it. Rights that actually affect their lives were taken away but they won't complain as long as they can live their home invasion fantasy under their bed every night.

They deserve the shootings

I'm glad not to live in that stupid country

>they aren't even close to being that bad
There are literal fucking plague rats running through the streets of Baltimore.

There will not be an uprising, they fear one person deciding to end their one life.

The bulk of the military would take the side of the people in a 2A infringement/destruction scenario
They take an oath to uphold and defend the constitution and the people first and foremost.

And?
Cars kill far more people a day than guns do.
In fact, being killed by a gun is less than 5% of all deaths, meaning its Statistically Insignificant.
Not to mention that most of those gun deaths are suicides, the actual chance of being killed with a gun is much lower.

France and Britain would get in line to assist the US govt. if it didn't start with their own first wtf are you talking about

Anyone buying CDs at Walmart deserves what they get.

Civilians CAN'T FEASIBLY CONTROL OR MANAGE FIGHTER JETS, TANKS AND NUCLEAR FUCKING WEAPONS YOU DOLT

Yes, because at least Congress would bother fighting her.

Boomer voters matter much more than millennials.

What do you think the cause is then? Most of the guns being used have been around for decades, but the school shootings are a more recent phenomenon.

What are they designed to do then?

These people don't know a goverment runs on taxation

Time is a flat circle. Everything we’ve ever done, or will do, we’re gonna do over and over and over again

As if fat ass Americans would be any good

>literally wants a constant cold war to be happening in his own country
Sounds fun, I can't wait to teach my kids how to pilot the strike drones in case the government gets uppity.

Look up the word "deterrent".

I could live with "fuck The Man in all his many forms, no matter where they fall on the political spectrum". I'm cool with that.

>I'm glad not to live in that stupid country
Enjoy whatever irrelevant society you happen to live in then I guess

Canada have more guns than people but they don't have mass shootings.

No user.
N is for nigger.
Always

Never.

HONK HONK

I play DCS tho

I assure you civilians with guns can do a whole hell of a lot more than civilians with butter knives.

People will bag and use self checkouts, eliminating the need to pay a cashier.

Greeters are a loss prevention employee, even if it's an old cripple, people react to a person looking at them or saying something to them, it creates the thought of "someone working here talked to me, they might remember me" and helps prevent a lot of loss.

>you saw this
*saw something similar

Defend you against threats

Virginia Tech and Thousand Oaks shootings were committed with handguns.

Deterrent of what exactly?

>kill all conservatives
>WE'RE SANE BELIEVE ME

lol, even your rhetoric is self defeating. Do you always think in such painful self contradictions? Do you see the world in terms of harry potter analogies and game of thrones referances? Sit down before you hurt yourself.

>All these racist crackas trying to take a brotha’s right to bare arms because a few people got killed
baka. Fucking crackas are such gigantic pussy I’m tellin’ ya.

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Do people actually believe this dumb “Dude just ban guns, it’ll surly stop people from killing large amounts of people” statement? You know damn well it won’t happen

He just transferred his soul to another body like Palpatine.

Exactly, so there's no need for civilians to have military weapons. This guybelieves that we are all in perpetual danger of the federal government.

That’s exactly what should be happening

Human history is nothing but tragedy after tragedy largely stemming from being trusting those that rule over them. There is no logical reason to ever trust someone that doesn’t given a single shit about you.

>day of rope
Remind me again when that's supposed to be happening? Because it's been
>a-any day now!
for a long fucking time.

>take down ads for games
>not the actual website that harbors and encourages racism, xenophobia, rape, violence, anti-semitism and hate in general

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A cold war is literally why the government won't overstep its authority vested in it by the people. Leaving a window open for actual revolt is what the people demand and the government must obey.

remove non-whites.

Look at all those newfags you triggered.

Lobotomize the mentally ill.

ut oh, looks like someone hasn't looked at their crime statistics lately!

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"Mass shooting" =/= "gang violence" they're totally separate problems with totally different causes, stop being disingenuous, it is obvious no one gives a fuck about gang violence because it only impacts poor blacks which media and politicians don't care about, the reason mass shootings are covered are because it effects white people.

>guns totally have a use besides killing!
>they also have the THREAT of killing!
great argument.

Only a third of gun deaths are intentional. The other two thirds are accidents and suicide. Then you take niggers out of the equation, and gun violence is statistically insignificant among whites.

Not your safe space, incel
Now dont go shoot people up because you're getting bullied online

Isn't this what Yea Forums wanted? I very much remember Yea Forums complaining about Gore in MK and games and how that should be targeted rather than tits

>polfag this triggered and seething because user simply said a word

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i enjoyed that his two literally mentally ill ex-girlfriends came forward to discuss their relationships, his cool high school rape list and bipolar disorder
#ally

Enjoy die ;)

>Not knowing about black white supremacists.

uh huh

Absolutely based

And I assure you it still wouldn't be enough to contend with any modern military, let alone the most globally equipped.

This guy gets it.

/pol/ did what soccer moms, school shootings, and SJWs couldn't do: ban violent vidya. Let's all thank /pol/ by calling them niggers.

Remove guns. It's literally that simple. Good luck getting cletus and his family to give them up though. Also, universal healthcare

>the media is trustworthy when it fits my narritive

As soon as your mother dies in her sleep for not replying to this post.

Your right. We need to take away guns to slow down the rate of blacks murdering each other.

Back to resetera where you belong, cunts.

I like this. May I see your full manifesto?

There it is. You don’t have a problem with guns. You love them. You just want a monopoly on them. Only the state gets to wield the threat of violence

If anything, the fucking insurance companies would probably increase their rates if everyone was open carrying to save money in that case because Americans love unfettered capitalism

There's a difference between fear and preparation. People do not need to fear when they have the ability to protect themselves, but if you take that ability away they are beholden to the government to protect them. If the government betrays them at any later date then the death toll will reach the millions. Not a couple hundred here or there.

Yes, so you can use them to severely injure or kill the person you perceive as a threat, therefore their main use is to inflict harm. This isn't even debatable.

Constitutionally forbidden.

>implying emaciated rice farmers and goat-fuckers are any better
As long as a far larger insurgent force has the will to fight a conventional military force cannot actually permanently defeat them.

They're used to defend property.
>you don't need guns just call the police
Uhh i thought you hated the police because they kill niggers and uphold oppressive regimes
>don't question me

Boobs are next, y'know.

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Literally just ban the alt-right communities and the shootings will stop. It's not that hard.
Who gives a shit about "freedom of speech" for people who invaded the internet in 2014, track them all down and put them in jail.

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Source for that?

i just wanna play videogames man

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>2+2 is equal to 4
>Wow! Great Argument
Fuck off you racist cracker. See

Is there even any proof that either of the shooters played video games?

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*tips fedora*

Is there any proof the holocaust happened

You first, /pol/tard.

Enjoy rape ;)

>Can't have tiddies in ya vidya cuz Dems hate em
>Can't have violence in ya vidya cuz Republicans hate em

Why are American gamers such cucks?

they were the first, retard

The white supremacy part isn’t wrong.

Anyone that gets triggered to kill people because they have a gun or play video games is already a helpless retard. Make prostitution legal so they can (have sex) and stop doping up these idiots with drugs.

>made up statistics from biased right wing sources
>every single report of a shooter that i see with my own eyes on the news is fucking white

hmmmmm.... what to believe.

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Defend what property and from who? Also, is that worth it when you're going tk go to jail regardless for murder? Fucking lmao.

Leftypol, please fuck off. I know 8cuck is down, but please, fuck off. We already have enough of your cancer around here.

american citizens*

Preach Brotha

No, just 90%

it will probably stop mass shootings of the like we saw recently. most guns used in mass shootings are obtained legally, because the perpetrators don't plan on surviving. however you still have to account for the millions of guns that criminals possess, including all the guns in Latin America that can be smuggled here.

The problem of mass shooting and inner city violence are totally different problems. The fact is when it comes to mass shootings most of the perps are suburban white kids the purchase the weapons legally because they simply don't have access to illegal black market weapons trade that you are insinuating are the cause of mass shootings.

Dink and donk liquor store robberies and drug shootings have an aim beyond just killing as many people as possible tho I will grant making firearms more difficult to get will NOT solve these problems when it comes to the specific issue of mass shootings it will slow them..

>white supremacy is to blame
she is 100% wrong.

Ban anime, porn and furries.Also ban trannies, rap and pedos.

I’m literally legit serious.

Not a good enough reason to strip the American people of their right. The government becoming so powerful they can turn countries into smoking glass isn't a legitimate reason to disarm civilians. All you're arguing is that it would be pointless to resist. That's not your fucking decision to make. You can give up your weapons and place your trust and your life in the hands of other people. Fuck you if you think you can make that decision on my behalf.

>it's gun
Countries that are more firearm happy than the US like Switzerland don't have these issues. It's not guns. It's obviously not video games but it's not guns either.

Trump was just had a cult of personality ya'll got duped into following. No shame in admitting that. It happens to everyone once in their lives, part of growing up.

Historians did note how popular GTA V was with German soldiers at the time. It must have.

>Remove guns.
Great way to get me and millions of other pro gun liberals to vote red for the rest of our lives

Won't that just make them more mentally ill?

Cope, terrorist

we don't
and that's fine
if you want to live free, then you have accept you aren't safe

This. Whites need to be exterminated then they will stop being superior.

Deterrent of violence, you fucking goofball. You think some gaggle of mentally disturbed mooks are going to storm some public place if they knew everyone was armed and able to brain them from 15 angles? Which hasn't been the case, of course -- too few are armed.

>two biased sources
>well I trust the one my eyeballs see!
God I'd love to murder every last one of you dumb fucks.

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it is though

Time to start coping tranny.

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They're all autistic young white males. Definitely Yea Forums users and vidya players, both #1 hobbies for isolated and socially retarded people.

>The country would be safe without assault weapons being generally available, this is a fact.

Yes but changing laws won't fix that since the guns are out there and criminals who use them to gun each other down and don't give a shit about the law are going to still have access to them. Meanwhile law-abiding citizens won't be on equal footing. All gun control really does in America is give criminals more power and give everyone else less means to protect themselves.

How do you propose we address this problem and make assault weapons no longer "generally available"?

They’re hosted peer to peer through zeronet now. First I’d heard of it but my younger brother visits it regularly.

>the foundation of this country
You mean the fact that it's a multicultural melting pot born of immigrants from all over the world?

Not really the banning but lonely bullied virgins should really not be allowed near guns.

They wouldn't be smart enough to operate a gun anymore.

>~60% black
Damn those white supremicist blacks are responsible for over half the mass shootings.

based and antisciencepilled

>>every single report of a shooter that i see with my own eyes on the news is fucking white
>He actually believes the fucking news isn’t dishonest
>But he thinks crime statistics are

By being prepared for a mass shooting. When a bad man starts waving a gun around you shoot him.

Yeah enjoy exercising your god-given right against the tyrants as you get carpet bombed

>they use bombs instead of guns!

Bombings in 1st world countries are rare. This is primarily due to the things required to make effective bombs are heavily regulated in those counties and it takes skill to make a working bomb without blowing yourself up.

They normally are too busy watching anime, hentai or the internet to bother doing something like that.

>but whites are the problem!

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>muh assault weapons
nigger you couldnt define assault weapon if you tried

Lefties
>we need to make guns illegal
Also lefties
>illegal immigrants cant be illegal

So what you're saying is I can keep my illegal guns and you can keep your illegal citizens? Why even have laws in such a backwoods society? You can't maintain the belief in law when its convenient and stamp on the rights of other citizens.

see

>fbi statistics wrong
>but fbi are also heroes for resisting drumfp

>people actually walk into stores and buy video games

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>El Paso shooter was black
lmaoing @ ur inbred hick life

It's Americans that are the craziest, most lunatic mother fuckers in the world. Especially right wing radicals and /pol/tards, they're genuinely a menace.

Not just blatant fanservice games anymore. Boobs any where, any game are next.

>more firearm happy than the US
>Switzerland
Literal retard
US has more guns than citizens

Get aload of this cuck.

You're stupid, he's not arguing that, he's just pointing out flaws in your argument

Far more to blame than Vidya or mental illness boogeyman

pretty much this.
we were fucked once politicians realized it was in their best interest to not serve our best interest.
you see this from both sides, but Republicans politicians are just so nonchalant about it.

Okay, so let's give better weapons to the local population. Oh whoops! Joe the dumbass fired his Boozoka into a crowd of people, because he didn't know hot to use it. Whoops! Harry the fucker just killed himself and fifty others by accidentally dropping a grenade. Whoops!
Do you see where i'm going with this?>If the government betrays them at any later date than the death toll will reach the millions.
It'll happen with or without guns. And if it does happen it's likely the military themselves would be the armed resistance and not civilians.

I own capital and it's my right to defend my capital as provided in the constitution of the united states.

If this were even remotely true obscenity laws wouldn't exist.

It's because America is a fucking enormous multicultural society. It's easy in a far more homogenized nation to have less severe ethnic, racial, religious, and political divides because everyone comes from more-or-less the same societal background.
Meanwhile it's impossible for people born in rural Iowa to understand those from Chicago, who can't understand upper-class New Yorkers, who can't understand Appalachian miners.

Someone post it
You the one

In an attempt to make me endorse taking guns away from civilians. It's not good enough.

one look at gary Indiana and the south side of chicago should tell you there's truth to it. In fact, name one majority black US city that's a good place to live. I'll wait.

>weeb cuck is an incel
Lmao cum.brain

As opposed to digitally renting them?

Many countries have as much guns as America but don't have mass shootings (eg: Canada)

>caring about guns so much you eschew your chances of any sort of progressive by electing trickle down economic republicans till you die

Why are you such a dummie

K, so admit you misrepresented what he said

So what you want is to turn the world into a battlefield where you could get shot just by looking at someone funny or doing something that ever so slightly can be interpreted as a threat? Sounds like paradise to me.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

This, round them up, put them into camps, and give them free socialized welfare helicopter rides.
If they complain, lol at their hypocrisy.

Reminder the fbi got caught inciting terrorism on 8ch and they don’t receive a peep of criticism

Reminder they received an extremely strong tip off about the parkland shooter as well. Reminder that the local PD waited in the parking lot doing nothing as the shooting occurred.

Reminder the biggest mass shooting in our nation’s history was put in the memoryhole and we know nothing about it.

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>assault weapons
Define this buzzword

Swiss citizens are literally required by law to each own a gun post-mandated military service, ad hominem shitter

True, but that is better solved by improving mental health institutions and not through societal disarmament.

It wouldn’t stop criminals from obtaining them though.

Than how come in other countries, with effective gun control, the mass-shooting rate is a fraction of Americas?

And thats why they won Vietnam huh?

I'm not misrepresenting anything. Don't interject into an argument that has fuck all to do with you unless you're going to make an actual relevant point. Either that or take the god damned time to read the entire argument before you start wasting my fucking time.

yeah man trump's been on the level!

To be fair, all the other parties were just as bad. I voted for the candidate that would provide the most lulz and its worked out pretty well for me.

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Name the last mass black shooter in Chicago that was reported on national TV where it showed him on camera and everything.

I'll wait

Jesus you're so fucking stupid you even misunderstood the post. Jesus fucking Christ user how do you even manage to type out responses? Holy fucking shit I'm not even the same guy. I was talking about how both of you are fucking morons for taking clearly biased news sources at face value. Off yourself for the good of mankind you fucking carbon meat bag.

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>Trump is passing gun control anyways
>"hate" crimes get death penalty
>more FBI monitoring
>more money for Israel
4-D INTER-DIMENSIONAL CHESS!

Defend what and from who? Just by brandishing some gun? That's very funny.

Holy shit user, fucking stop your brother from fucking falling for a honeypot.
Can't find it, but they got a fucking pedo board and its not official in the least.

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Perhaps the American people aren't as happy as in the other countries.

clownpilled

Why don't they just wear bullet proof vests everywhere?

shut up weeb
weebism is a clear mass shooter trait

Unironically ban any white supremacy extremist website and fine companies for not banning people pushing far right extremism

>CRIMINALS ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE THEM

MASS SHOOTERS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO BLACK MARKET FIREARMS DISTRIBUTION AND PURCHASE WEAPONS LEGALLY. MAKING FIREARMS MORE DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN WILL SLOW THE SPECIFIC PROBLEM OF MASS SHOOTINGS EVEN IF IT DOESN'T SLOW GANG VIOLENCE. STOP USING GANG VIOLENCE AS AN EXCUSE WHEN YOU CLEARLY DON'T CARE ABOUT IT.

The statics are from the FBI who conspired against trump to kick him out of office though.

Go live in Brazil

If its not guns, then they’ll just use Trucks of Peace or butcher knives. Something seems to compel incel mutts to commit mass murder

Just like video game fans when politics interrupt their video game board.

>caring about literally only a dozen lives so much you eschew your chances of any sort of progressive by alienating your own party
BAN GUNS is such a fucking lazy approach, use your head.

>One of the shooters was black
???
>The other was a left wing socialist
???
Are you just making stuff up as you go?

If only you knew how Yea Forums was like before you got here. But you never will because you're a gen-z queer who is also an unironic /pol/tard

>twitter memes
boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/"Cum
brain%20is%20from%20Twitter%22/

>LOL SWITZERLAND BROS
t. somebody who knows nothing about gun ownership in Switzerland
It's FOR military service, i.e. an actual well-regulated militia
It's not your personal fucking weapon.
It's a service rifle that you can take to a range with safety regulations and you can't keep the ammo in your house.
Grow a fucking brain.

Glad I don't live in that shithole. World would be infinitely better without Israel and its lapdog.

Just to clarify, this is just the peer to peer shit, the original was fine... ish.

Do you honestly believe Hilary Clinton wasn't trying to do the same? Every single dumb as rocks woman was wet for the idea of a female president even if she was a total fucking idiot.

Why does that matter? Mass shooting isn't the primary form of murder in the US.

>literally required by law
Post service you can pick keeping your gun or not, braindead amerimutt /pol/tard
Stop talking about shit you know nothing about

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Brazil is still safer than America

But we need more firearms not less. To kill corrupt politicians and their bootlicking attack dogs like you

Maybe mass shootings happen because America desperately needs a culling if your dumbfuck posts are any indication. Mass shooters are heroes.

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Those statistics existed before Trump, incel

>mental illness boogeyman
>it's totally white supremacists
congrats, you are dumb as fuck!

>Not a good enough reason to strip the American people of their right.
If a "right" doesn't change the outcome of anything and is actively hurting people while it's around, why do you need it? You yourself have admitted that civilians having assault weapons wouldn't stop the government, so why have them at all? You can't just claim it's your right, we have rights to make our lives free from tyranny and that includes the tyranny of a lone deranged gunman. When your supposed right threatens the life of me and my loved ones, then yes, I have the right to petition it gone.

(you)

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How is mental illness a boogieman?

>countries where there are less guns have less gun crime

HOLY FUCK MIND = BLOWN!

Teh Lulz is the currency that which the world revolves around, get with the program or get assmad forever

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tell us about the 50s grandpa

Yeah bro, just let it be. Keep the mass shootings happening, it isn't that big of a deal.

Have sex.

You just want to monopolize state violence.

That’s all this is.

As weapons become harder to get legally they will become easier to get illegally.

Because mental illness hides under your bed ya dweeb.

How many fucking times will this braindead argument get pushed forward on this website? Do you understand what optics are? Do you understand the rammifications of even 1% of the American population openly rebelling against the government? You don't eliminate an insurgency by glassing entire city blocks. People like you reusing this double-digit IQ type of reasoning always reminds me how you could never be trusted in a position of authority, let alone justify depriving the population of their defense against criminals and tyranny.

Taking tools away doesn't solve the problem or slow the problem. According to you the problem is people dying. You need to go back further than this. The problem is people being so angry they're willing to kill others. If you solve that problem then it wouldn't matter if everybody in the country owns 20 semi-automatic rifles. What you're attempting to do is solve a symptom by changing the vector but you're failing to acknowledge that when someone wants to kill a bunch of people it turns out there's a myriad of ways to do that and they don't need guns.

It's like blaming murderous arson on the fucking accelerant and trying to ban gasoline.

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the whole thing is fucking fishy and i doubt black crime is actually a thing if you look pass "muh stastics" that can easily be manipulated by retards with a political agenda, there should be massive black shooting out the booty but nah.

You mean like in Japan, where the suicide rate is among the highest in the world, and where gun violence is virtually nonexistant?

exactly

Wow great post

Shut the fuck up. You have no argument.

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Triggered holy shit!

If we're not even dealing with the primary form of murder in America what makes mass shootings worse? The answer is media coverage. Our agendas are controlled by what we're told by people with more money than we'd know what to do with.

The problem is the media

>no stop blaming my terrorist movement for terror attacks! Stoooooop

Literally this.

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I was waiting for some /pol/tard to compare us to Switzerland. If you had any knowledge of how their shit works you wouldn't make that shitty fucking comparison

You mean the racially and ethnically homogeneous population isn't using instrumental violence as a means to express their antipathy against perceived subjugation? HOW STRANGE.

Then why do you have to pay for a gun?

Explain Serbia then.
>75 guns per 100 citizens, and second to the US
>only 1.13 murder rate

Mass shooters should go for the media if they want to be REALLY famous. Hint hint. Come on I'm sure at least one of you will be a shooter. Go for it man.

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If 1% of the US population rebelled, then yes, they would be fucking eliminated.

>I PRAYED TO A CLOWN GOD AND NOW I LIVE IN A CLOWN WORLD HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?????????

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No incels in Serbia

You don’t understand most of these shooters are harassed and gaslight by glowies to target nobodies

Explain Canada then.

Do your own research than, all these tweets are real and you can easily verify that for yourself.

>He doesn't know that the military first and foremost protects the interests of the state
What a fucking retard

Eh, is this your first day, rookie?
Gotta say, you're not doing so hot.

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I actually do, but you have to read it. I understand that most republicans have a sub 90 IQ though, so i'll be patient.
The state isn't committing violence in this case, the people are.

Going straight for the problem is not a lazy approach, you should use your head and understand that if guns were illegal all those walking abortions would not have been able to shoot up those people.

I guess the Boston Bomber didn't use a pressure cooker as a bomb.

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Because it is used as a scapegoat for issues caused by other factors. Largely because the mentally Ill aren't able to fight back, so it easy to scapegoat them and punish them to sate the bloodlust of others

>the state isn’t committing violence

Have children.

Explain.

Because they have a teeny tiny fraction of the guns. There are literally more firearms in the US than there are people, I'm not exaggerating. The next country after the US in highest number of guns is India, a country with over a billion people. They don't even have one tenth as many guns as the US has.

This is why gun control simply won't work in the US. The ship has sailed for any hope of gun control as seen in other countries being effective in the US. That discussion is about 70 years too late.

>If you delete /pol/, every board will become /pol/.
That's the case right now, you fucks make like 20 off topic threads a day on this board alone.

Strict law for civilians and most guns are in the hands of military groups

except for all of those recorded dead black people, black crime is not a thing
by the way there have been over 1600 people shot in chicago this year

One does not preclude the other.

Name 5 times in the past year. I can name 15 shootings.

There are certainly other factors but to call mental illness a scapegoat is dumb. It definitely plays a part.

why do i have to pay for a printing press?
are you a fucking retard?

The constitution is not set in stone, it has been amended and changed multiple times, it can be amended and changed again.

So in short, the US is doomed?

"Well regulated militia"
Yeah, unfortunately a modern well regulated militia needs assault weapons. Deal with it faggot.

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We could at least stop selling them at fucking wal-mart.

Japan isn't homogenous

>The state isn't committing violence
Really nigga

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>triggered cum.brain continues to post chinese cartoon women
It literally writes itself!

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It's almost like the constitution is a living document... Crazy right?

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Feels good to be in a place where this shit happened once and we got rid of guns.

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You still haven't acknowledged that the government isn't going to be nuking cities when they're being tyrannical. They're not going to be rolling tanks around. Armed civilians are effective against the armed forced because of the guns. The armed forces cannot subjugate hundreds of millions of people simultaneously if many of them are armed, but they can if almost none of them are armed. You're stupid if you think an armed civilian cannot kill a soldier, and you're stupid if you think the armed forces that are willing to kill civilians of their own country outnumber armed civilians.

What you want to do is reduce the amount of armed civilians because you feel threatened. You fail to realize the larger threat because you suck on the government's tit for everything.

This
We banned alcohol and that worked great. Banning alcohol worked so well that we have two amendments a out it
Gun fags btfo

>and thats a good thing!

How about you try to form a militia right now? Go on, go gather up some friends and patrol the streets with visible guns, see how long it takes you to be arrested.

Underrated post user. Laughed me arse off

Well then they should target somebodies. Namely buildings that belong to the mass media.

Habbo hotel was a protest against the mods of the game banning people for having black characters fyi

>You liberals need to respect the flag of the country that I am currently stockpiling arms against.

>guns are the reason these people wanted to commit mass murder
Not using your head my friend

Canada have more guns than people but they don't have mass shootings.

How do they do it?

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you'll be amending the bill of rights with sanguine

Undermining the right to bear arms at all shreds the entire reason it was included in the first place. It would be 100% contrary to the right. No amendment to it should be permissible.

Poor education and values everywhere.

Canada isn't retarded

>believes there is concentration camps in their country
>lets ban guns
>I'm sure our government won't do anything to us next

I swear the lefts logic should be used to just ban them from the purchase of firearms.

Fuckin anyone is better than this senile orange monkey

y'all gay

militias are legal you retard

There are militias in the US. It's called contingency groups.
The purpose of a militia is not to be constantly monitoring everyone, it's to be ready to fight when needed.

by being cucks who let chinese people buy up all their property

Nice choice to use all white countries. Wonder what the pattern here is.

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Being gay dog fucking faggots that are too scared to use their weapons

Strict gun laws

Again, not going to happen because then the glowies do their actual job

Yeah, good luck on taking out 3,293,262 armed and mobilized people, thousands of which more than likely have plenty of resources, technical knowledge and military experience. With another percentage of that severely understated number having a high likelihood of being federal-employees-turned saboteurs, and another percentage being an entire chunk of the military itself. If 1% couldn't even be managed by the government without them resorting to turning entire swathes of their own land into glass, how could they manage 2%? How about 5? 10? Think about this shit before you rattle off stupid statements.

The government has nothing to fear from armed civilians if the government does its job properly. Trying to take guns away from civilians is actual reason to revolt because it's a clear sign of aggression towards civilians. If you're in a boxing match with someone, and they insist you should put your hands behind your back, are you going to listen to them or are you going to punch them in the fucking mouth?

This thread reeks of butthurt chapo trannies mad that they're finally getting censored after years of leftist media looking the other way.

far FAR less spics and blacks. america has a demographic problem but no one will ever admit it.

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Also Canada's mass media isn't a weaponized tool for glowies (yet).

*gets dabbed by the National Guard*

see>The armed forces cannot subjugate hundreds of millions of people simultaneously if many of them are armed, but they can if almost none of them are armed.
In this situation the armed forces still have-
-training and logistics
-years of experience
-overwhelming numbers
If there is any armed resistance it will be a branch of the military as well, hence why civilians don't need assault weapons.

You can own a lot of different types of rifles in Canada that you can't own in the US though

>the state isn’t committing violence

Just remove kikes, spics, and nigs and the gun problem will go away

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>No one in the military would defect and they'd all totally be willing to patrol the streets killing civilians!

they have some of the strictest gun laws on the planet. It's like willfully signing up to be a registered sex offender with all the baggage that entails.

Daytona shooter went into a cop bar and shot. Yeah man, real fucking fascist bootlicker i tell you what.

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>"illegal" immigration
>when the country was built by and for immigrants
I knew you guys were dumb, but holy shit.

>white nationalists commit terror attacks and post manifestos
>Nooooooooo it isn't their fault blame anyone else. Kill the mentally Ill just don't make it so I can't make death threats on 8cuck
The massive disinfo to try and disinfect the event of white nationalist terrorism is pathetic. Almost as bad as the faggots who tried to sanitize the dude running people over in Charlottesville and killing someone

weed

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Vietnam
Also, where's the main branch of the revolt going to get the weapons if they're all sealed up in government vaults?

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You just stated that the armed forces have overwhelming numbers. Are you fucking retarded?

>taking tools away doesn't slow or solve the problem.

If I'm trying to get you to stop hammering nails into my wall taking away your hammer is sure in the fuck going to slow your ass down.

>thousands of which more than likely have plenty of resources, technical knowledge and military experience
Exactly, people in a resistance are already GOING TO BE ARMED SOLDIERS. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO GIVE OUT ASSAULT WEAPONS TO PEOPLE WHO WILL NEVER SUE THEM EVEN IN THIS INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY FANTASY YOU HAVE CREATED TO JUSTIFY IT

Yea Forums never gave creedance to leftypol trash, and your reddit faggot ass knows it.

kys, cunt.

>France
>Canada
>Portugal
>Italy
>Span
>several eastern european countries
>asian countries

>all white

The only pattern I see is a /pol/tard with cognitive dissonance

>713 replies
We did it, Reddit.

>>when the country was built by and for illegal immigrants
so why did the people who founded the country say it was immportant to have strong immigration laws?

Timothy McVeigh

Why can't it be that easy? Why can't aliens or God come save us from this mess? If only Lincoln would have followed through...FUCK

There's a lot of different ways to bash a nail into a wall and you sure as fuck don't need a hammer. If someone's willing to die to get that nail in that wall taking away his tool of choice isn't going to slow him down one fucking iota you moron.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the state isn’t committing violence

yes, im triggered by self defeating hardline communist propaganda. You couldn't glow more right now if you tried.

good bye americans
can't say I'll miss you guys

>this brain-addled schizo sure has a solid handle on life!

*Abrams, Apaches and drones dabs on you*

Yeah nogun libshits are seething as usual

how do brainlets think they have rights or self-government if they can't defend their rights? you expect a tyrant to just respect your will because you fucking voted?

Very very few would defect.

You don't know what communism is, get off of /pol/ it's warping your views of reality