Metal Gear Solid 5: Demon Edition - Gamescom 2019
- The story is revised. Added about 3 hours of cutscenes.
- The new English voice acting. Snake's voice is Richard Doyle.
- Ground Zeroes is included in the main story.
- Used a lot of concepts that Kojima refused.
- Quiet has a major change. Now she is an Albatross, more “normal” and more dressed.
- December of this year.
- Vanilla version for Nintendo Switch.
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Based
I really like this
If I don't play as venom or episode 51 then it's a failure
Give it up. I have and it doesn't even bother me anymore, you know, that feeling of what could have and what should have been.
...
Now to let go of the rage I feel whenever I think of Mass Effect 3.
Fake and gay. Too bad, might have been good otherwise
just let mgs die
HOLY FUCK NINTENDO WON FUCK NIGGERS!!!!!!!
I'd rather let MGS live now that Kojima isn't the all seeing eye erasing people from the credits and saying stuff he didn't actively work on doesn't count like PO and Revengeance.
Fucker took over the PO dev's game (MGS4) and probably ruined it in the process, and then removed him in the credits as a 'Co-Director'
this is the stupidest MGSV speculation of them all. everything about it is designed to be clearly nonsense. of all the shit there's been why is this what Yea Forums chooses to believe?
Fucking stupid. The real trick is that if you have MGSV you already have DS, you just gotta find it.
Tomorrow is in your hands.
It just sounds too good to be true for konami.
You want Quiet to be more "normal"? What the fuck are you, some kind of faggot?
What the fuck is an "Albatross" anyway?
Konami has been pretty decent since Kojima left.
Brought back Bomberman, finally released some good collections, gave Sony the go-ahead to release their own CV collection and despite MG Survive's shortcomings, I can see a good future for the MG series once they have the faith to be given a bigger budget.
it better be a free update
You're retarded. Konami hasnt released anything decent in years. They arent making video games anymore. All the cash is in pachinko now.
Where this rumor originally come from?
No, it's 60$ plus microtransactions.
Except you're objectively wrong, as since Kojima's departure they have released
>Super Bomberman R
>ZoE2 Remake
>Metal Gear Survive
>3 game collections under the 'Classic Games' banner, plus the Sony funded Castlevania Rondo of Blood + SotN
>the upcoming Contra Rogue Corps
>currently making the TurboGrafx16 mini
This is all after Kojima left by the way. That guy is the reason the company went to shit and the only games they actually put out were Metal Gear titles.
>a bunch of rereleases, spin offs, and even a shitty emulator on a raspberry pi with a custom case
Makes me sick. Notice that its nothing actually new? Because konami have no fucking idea what people want. I cant believe drones like you defend this shit.
The character is fucking shit and served no purpose other than waifu bait. I don't need video games to appease my dick, she took up screen time that could've gone to way more interesting characters or ideas
Except for actual sequels like Bomberman and Contra, as well as ZoE2 Remake, which is a full remake with VR capabilities.
Also, you're forgetting, this is Konami after being jewed by Kojima, who wasted so much fucking money during MGSV's development while putting out nothing in a development time far longer than any other MGS, and he fucking left development midway through to put out his proof of concept so he could suckle on Sony's cock and be like "Rook at my Sirent Hirrs demo".
Of course it's going to be mostly ports and they'll be putting out Pachinko to get money back from that shit. They didn't even put out a lot of pachinko for a Japanese company, Capcom has a pachinko machine for like every mainline RE, Konami only put out one for each series.
It's not that I'm a drone, I haven't actually bought any of this shit aside from the CV collections and ZoE2, but I am understanding, because they got fucked by their own VP, so fucking hard.
You have those typed in a text file somewhere, right? I remember seeing the exact same reply in 2 or 3 threads by now.
THIS
>Story rewrote in part by Fukushima
XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Yeah, it must be that, it can't be that shes a shit character and multiple people agree. me having some reply to some random autistic waifu fag is much more likely.
Based. Maybe if we get a good game this meme about it being konamis fault that the hack wasted 7 years and 8 mil can die. Imagine doing that in any other job and releasing a Pisa poor half finished product and having people defend your firing and revere you for it instead
I think autism is always the answer.
I bet all of those threads are from the same guy who wants to talk about MGSV so desperately that he had to make up fake leaks.
(And I mean that guy is you).
Is going to have the original 5 chapters?
Here, its just a meme from the autism war between Konami and Kojima that people wage here. There are no facts, only interpretations.
>What the fuck is an "Albatross"
Lol. Use google and learn something for once, retard
Hmm, how did I know some waifu fag would deflect when pointed out how retarded he is. Jerking off so much has warped your brain waifu fag. You disgust me
sounds trash. just keep keifer sutherland
This is the most unappealing dogshit ever, who the fuck would want this? Why are people still obsessed with this shitty ass game? Doing damn near anything else with Metal Gear would be better than this shit.
Based retard. It was probably me telling you that, because it's simply true that she's a shitty character.
You want a sexy character that's also way more interesting than your lame fetish bait? Look up Eva in mgs3. Meanwhile, Quiet is litteraly just as fascinating in her characterisation as a piece of fecal matter. She is inconsistent, has no personality, no motivations, no nothings. She just shoots well and hums. And she also somehow loves venom for no reason, even though her mission was to kill him. But instead of carrying out her orders, she prefers do dance naked with him under the rain like the braindamaged retard that she is. She's litteral walking garbage, whose only value is to be used as a cumdump by horses in a shitty porn sfm. She's pure and unadulterated shit, user. Your waifu is pure shit.
Is this supposed to be appealing somehow?
>3 hours of cutscene
[basedface wojak]
That's all?
>Quiet has a major change. Now she is an Albatross, more “normal” and more dressed.
AAAAAAAAAAND DROPPED
A
When you run around in a desert like climate with a big pair of tits, shit is going to get hot very fast in full military garb. Those puppies would need some air conditioning. Quiet has always been appropriately dressed. The only people who would disagree are s-o-y creatures and sexless virgins who are afraid that their pee-pee will get hard.
0% chance they replace Sutherland. Fake and gay.
Have you seen how women in the desert actually dress?
not necessarily. iirc Kiefer had to be funded by a fair amount for even the shortest of lines, so assuming that those three hours of cutscenes are for real and try to include BB more often, it's possible.
She is just as shit as Code Talker and the later half of the game.
>it's okay it's shit if everything is shit!
ZOE only happened due to based Cygames
If Konami didn't care about making games anymore though, it wouldn't have happened since a full ground-up remake with VR costs a lot more than the remasters. Especially when they were selling it for $40 in Canada
Nah, I'd definitely take code talker over her. At least he gives us kino scenes with skullface, quiet is a waste of space and should be deleted. Nobody gives a fuck about what she'd wearing, she's a shit character and that's facts
The one that I will never let go is DmC. Fuck that game.
Well it fucking bombed anyway so it doesn't exactly matter. MGSurvive bombed, Contra will bomb too, and their investors are going to be like "told you so"
And it's all literally despite their good intentions. Kojima is a fucking sociopath who doesn't care about anybody and completely burned everybody who didn't fall in line to leave with him, and now retards on Yea Forums and 56% youtubers suck his cock all day when he was fired for a very good reason.
>Now she is an Albatross
Would you buy it Yea Forums? You didn't buy Survive, right? You bought a PS4 for Death Stranding?
If it's real then yes, Fukushima > Kojima. But it's not real.
>giant game publisher
>good intentions
Nah those japs are gonna kill their own company and the old fucks who keep greenlighting spinoff12345 will have no scapegoat of an inexperienced vp crashing it all. Itll be their own dumbfuck decisions just like every company.
doesnt change the giant empty boring land that is the entire game
Nah, i'm saying the rest of the game is shit. A bit surprised no one mentions Code Talker and his tapes about wolbachia and the whole parasite shit which is related to her as well
Guess you are right. Still mad about no boss fight against Skull Face. Quiet's boss fight wasn't that great either.
That is completely different than me3 or mgsv's situations retard. Especially now that DMC5 exists and is based
By good intentions, I meant actually trying to put out what people want. People have wanted a CV HD Collection and a proper ZoE2 remaster. People have been longing for Bomberman to come back as well.
Also, stop trying to sweep Kojima under the rug with the 'inexperienced vp' line, he was with the company for decades, he was essentially Konami's Inafune, and Capcom showed that once you get rid of the cancer in charge, shit will get back on track, slowly but surely.
Source or bullshit
>Have you seen how women in the desert actually dress?
yeah, and that is what made Quiet special. She was like all "Fuck you assholes, I'm dressing like a slut". You people should feel ashamed of yourselves.
Shut up and work some more on Death Sranding instead of dining with actors all the time, Kojima
Quiet is only dressed like a slut because it got Kojima's dick hard, and he didn't think about her character beyond that. The fact that he said the reason why she dressed like that in pre-release stuff was big and would make people ashamed just shows how bad of a writer Kojima really is
>shit, now I have to make up a justification for my new fetish
>So, uh... Nanomachines won't work, not this far in the past
>let's say... A virus? Oh no, a Parasite instead, it's more original
>and let's say that she needs it inside of her in order to survive. And uh... Ha damn, the clothes thing.
>sooo... She needs the parasites in order to... Breath ? Let's say her lungs are toast
>Okay, done! DID YOU RIKED IT
I just remembered the flowers from the hospital were in her lungs as well. How did they even get there?
Magic. You know, parasite magic.
W O L B A C H I A
Male to Female. Copulation.
Burgers, a perfect balance of nature's blessings
>The fact that he said the reason why she dressed like that in pre-release stuff was big and would make people ashamed just shows how bad of a writer Kojima really is
I'm not trying to hop on the dude's dick but it would not surprise me one bit if he had the biggest shit eating grin on his face as he typed that out
Burger-Talker and Miller's Maxi-Buns are the best thing from the tapes.
the worst part of mgsv was that it launched with destroy the mines 1 through 15 and other terrible and boring side ops. Like professional game developers who are paid to make games thought that was okay.
>>implying other females of the franchises are any better.
I must agree
Quiet not being Chico was one of the most dissapointing thing in MGSV.
>no coop
Yea no thanks.
Kaz was half japanese or half jew?
Albatross?
why not both?
I kinda like her design. From a practical standpoint it's a bit ridiculous but it just looks good.
ZoE2 is not a full remake by any definition. They changed the sound and made an option to change the camera.
lol, this same exact post was posted sometime last night in a MGS V thread,
>took the fukumeme bit out because nobody believed this horseshit
At least Caramel was fun, this is just sad.
>doesn't even know how hard it is to properly implement first person VR
Jesus Christ
>Half jew, half japanese and half american
I don't know friend.
Alright let's have an MGS thread
>favorite entry
>favorite moment
>favorite character
what is the difference?
>favorite entry
I go back and forth between 2 and 3 depending on when I get asked, I like them both a lot but I'll say 3.
>favorite moment
Old Snake vs. Liquid Ocelot boss fight.
>favorite character
Old Snake.
>MGS2
>"Hurry! Get away!"
"Gray Fox!?"
"A name from long ago. You haven't aged well, Snake"
>Solidus
What is this from?
MGS3
Piloting REX in mgs4
Snake
Imagine that being so upset by a game that you make up bullshit "leaks" just to cope with the fact that it's not what you wanted.
Almost 3 years after release.
Ashita no Nadja
Ok so can someone please explain all the snakes, I’ve played 2,3 an 5 and it still confuses me sometimes so is it
>big boss (real)
>big boss (fake)
>solid
>Solidus
>- Vanilla version for Nintendo Switch.
And that's how you know this is fake.
>favorite entry
3 and on occasion V, but I have to be in a very specific mood to not hate everything about V
>favorite moment
Easily right after you beat volgin, when snake finally starts to truly trust Eva and they escape together, that entire segment is kino.
>favorite character
As much as I love mgs 3, solid is still the best snake
>Naked Snake = Big Boss
>Venom Snake = Medic from MSF brainwashed into thinking he was the real Big Boss
>Solid Snake = Clone of original Big Boss. Was created based on the recessive genes of Big Boss.
>Solidus Snake = Perfect clone of original Big Boss.
>Vanilla version for Nintendo Switch.
This part isn't from the original post. It's impossible anyway MGSV barely runs on the PS3 let alone a literal Fisher Price tablet.
For me, it's Hitman Absolution
It's probably the only real thing about this.
>Naked Snake = Big Boss
>Venom Snake
>Solid Snake = Old Snake
>Liquid Snake = Eli
>Solidus Snake
>Raiden (original codename being Snake)
>Revolver Ocelot = Liquid Ocelot (Ocelot possessed by Liquid)
Okay thanks. I was confused for a while thinking that Solidus was big boss under another name
So the snake in mgs3 was big boss
Yep.
Gotcha
>favorite entry
mgs1 or mgs3, cant decide
>favorite moment
hard to say, gray fox´s death and his whole speech before dying, maybe
>favorite character
Solid snake
I thought the body double plot could have been way more interesting than it was. The idea of Big Boss having multiple doppelgangers working around the world for his plans and collectively they are Big Boss. Imagine if the guy you encounter at the ending isn't Naked Snake but another copy bringing Venom in to the master plan.
>Entry
I love them all but as a whole it's MGS2, it just never fails to make me feel in all types of ways.
>Favorite Moment
The first codec conversation with The Boss in MGS3.
>favorite character
Ocelot for sure
Is MGSV worth replaying with mods?
Did the HD collection ever come to PS5?
>55 people actually responded to this
>it would not surprise me one bit if he had the biggest shit eating grin on his face as he typed that out
Quiet is a strong female character who rose up against her male oppressors.
>PS5
it's worth it without mods
PS5 isn't even out yet, dummy.
PS4. My IQ is legitimately 90.
It's not the worst idea, but it's hard to not feel a little cheated. I wanted to play as big boss and experience his character development at this point pretty bad. I get that letting any of MGSV happen and other stuff explained some of that but I wanted more.
>3
>Final boss of 3 (of course)
>Big Boss
shout out to my boy venom
You should have seen this coming the moment Ishmael fucking talked in the very first trailer. blame yourself
>Source: Dude trust me
>(Ocelot possessed by Liquid)
(Pretending)
Why would quiet become a bird?
He was possessed in the second game and pretended after
I'm pretty sure big boss states in 4 that he did it the whole time
>What the fuck is an "Albatross" anyway?
t.dumb amerilard
Yeah but it's more fun if he was possessed
this is a lie.
Skullface was originaly meant to be called Albatross, guess the user who made up the leak thought of that
This is what you call decent you fucking faggot? Where's Silent Hill? Where are proper Castlevania games? Nobody cares about metal gear survive, PES and their fucking yu gi oh games.
Well his last name is Miller so he is part jewish. That would explain his constant whining and hysteric episodes.
>rereleases
>shitty add-on for V released as a full game
>collections
>a fucking emulator
>a bad looking contra
"no !"
MGSV made shitload of money, triple its budget back. I REALLY fucking doubt Konami is shit because of Kojima. All they did since he left is shit no one asked for. Meanwhile he has his own studio and new IP coming in few months, if he really was so bad at managing he wouldnt be where he is now.
Nice dream Caramel, still butthurt about your shitty theory being blown out I suppose.
They're all in development since they're just getting back on their feet.
>nobody cares about yugioh
In your fucking dreams.
See above, samefag.
What other games came out during his time as VP? Fucking hell, a game he produced, CV Lords of Shadow, fucking bombed the series.
Remember when he fucking left the development of V so he could go make fucking PT, which was never going to be a full game, he knew he was getting fired. It was just a proof of concept so other companies would hire him. He was deliberately sabotaging MGSV in an attempt to look more appealing to Sony.
What's with americans and corporate bootlicking ?
Hideo stop posting
What's with eurotards and assuming everything they dislike is american?
>They're all in development since they're just getting back on their feet.
yeah ? for 5 years ?
What's with Kojimatards and thinking their God can do no wrong?
obsessed yuro detected
>They're all in development
thank you konami PR man
The collections are obviously to scrounge up the extra cash while they pursue more low budget affairs.
It's not like Kojima's 5 years for a game that came out not even 50% done.
>not even 50% done.
wow you're not even making sense now
>a mission was cut
>not even 50% done
epic
Do you really think MGSV was even close to being done? When most of the Main Ops were filler and all the Side Ops were repeats?
you mean like peace walker ?
No, Peace Walker did have a complete campaign and a healthy variety of side ops for a PSP game.
MGSV had like 6 types of Side Ops repeated over 100 times, and a quarter of the Main Ops were an older mission but harder, and half were just beefed up Side Ops.
Not to mention shit like Battle Gear, Skullface, Chico, Quiet's fucking pointless existence, and that abrupt as hell ending.
>
>Do you really think MGSV was even close to being done?
Yes it was
>When most of the Main Ops were filler and all the Side Ops were repeats?
lmao go watch a movie
I'm glad that this is bullshit bait because I refuse to accept an MGSV without Venom or Quiet.
Fuck the haters, Venom may be boring because he's so passive but he's an interesting character idea and Quiet becomes a great waifu later in the game if you give her a chance.
The gameplay is almost universally praised you contrarian faggot.
Survive wasn't priced as a full game, brainlet.
Any time I see this image, I wonder how that user felt after Andromeda released. A part of me hopes he died before it came out so he didn't have to see that day. The other part of me wonders what became of this man consumed by fury after playing.
The side ops are enjoyable. You’re just a faggot.
Remember when they had to cut a piece off and release it as a prologue with extra mission side ops to beef up the value?
stop posting this fake shit
the "shitty add-on" had more consistent content and actually felt designed like a proper video game. Survive isn't even the worst Metal Gear game by a fucking LONGSHOT.
MGS3, it's a game anyone can pick up without prior Metal Gear knowledge.
The intro to MG2, hearing the theme of Solid Snake just sets the mood for what's about to come.
Otacon, he feels like a great guy IMO and is a much better father than Huey, his father.
>Yes it was
You have two choices. Admit it was far from being finished or admit Kojima doesn't even know the bare fucking basics of how to tell a story. If Chapter 51 is the ending before Truth, that still leaves a story with a completely half assed middle with no resolution to most of the characters within it.
Or go the logical route and say Kojima cut most of the shit meant to be in the game because he knew he'd be fired in 2015 for being a terrible VP and a money leech on the company. Need I remind you how PT would've never been completed and how it took away from MGSV development time? Fuck, remember MGS4? Long fucking games, wanna know how long it took? 4 years, and the original director for it was working on Portable Ops for half of the development time, in addition to 4 needing a new engine, transitioning to new hardware, and Kojima stealing the director's chair and erasing the PO guy from being a co-director because Kojima is an egotistical fuck.
>A bit surprised no one mentions Code Talker and his tapes about wolbachia and the whole parasite shit
HAMBURGERS
MGS2
Final fight of 4
Ocelot
>people can't understand slightly opened endings these days
Feels weird being invaded by the Konami PR team
Eva was way better
youtube.com
There's a world of differences between a story being open-ended like MGS2, and not finishing it like MGSV. I'm glad you're not a writer.
feels like a konami decision to me
third choice, you're an idiot.
but it did finish
it has a beginning and an ending
>MGS3
>During Ground Zero when Skull face is leaving Camp Omega and Here's to you is playing on the radio
>Paramedic
wow you sure showed him with your faggot take lmao.
>dude its not finished
>it's not
>it isn't even 50% done
>its not done
This is you. You haven't tried to explain how it's not done at all. As far as I see every characters story was wrapped up. Venom, Big Boss, Paz, Quiet, ALL OF THEM. Even Zero we found out how he became parapalegic.
DID YOU KNOW
there was a whole third chapter planned
GZ straight up says that The Boss was the only woman John ever loved. I honestly don't blame Eva for fucking him over and birthing the clone babies.
but it wasn't my headcanon so it's shit
and did you know that every game has concepts that don't end up getting implemented?
Nice rebuttal, glad I know Kojima's cult just blindly defends him. God I hate you retards.
You're right in one aspect. It had no fucking middle. It had shit happen with the loosest of connections and then the game abruptly ends.
Skullface doesn't have a story. Chico was supposed to show up, he fucking doesn't. Liquid got cut.
The story is factually incomplete, and Kojima can't fucking write.
no, you are an idiot who clearly didn't understand the story. Not the game's fault
But in Snake eater Eva literally asks if Snake loves the Boss as a romantic partner and he says no, maybe he only loved the Boss as a Mother figure but that's probably it
>could’ve gone to way more interesting characters or ideas
Neither of these existed in MGSV to begin with. Quiet was a shit character in a shit game.
Gamescom already released a list of studios with game announcements and Konami wasnt on it. Their only presence at Gamescom is a PES booth.
I'm going to have to buy it because I'm a huge fag for this game. FUCK ME. Can't you fuckers leave my goddamn wallet alone.
In Fairness to Kojimbo, the fucker wanted to end the series after 2 but V and 4 were trainwreaks of the most beautiful kind in their own ways, 4 had all the love and care but it still sucked ass because of just all the weird shit in there that was so out of place, V suffered from the same but at the point you could just feel the Love Kojimbo had for the game just disappear
Tldr: Fuck Kojima, Metal Gear can survive without him and given how Portable ops turned out It's probably for the best
cry harder
It had the vast majority of the stuff it should've had, only missing Chico, Eli's ending and Battle Gear. The reason it feels empty to you is that Kojimmy wanted to make Venom a silent protagonist but he still wanted the story to revolve around him. This means he was boring and everyone around him was boring. On paper all of the ideas are great but the execution was lackluster.
I liked MGSV but I really wish they never cut out the adult Chico concept. Him surviving GZ and becoming bat shit insane due to all the shit he went through on top of Paz's death would fit better with the story and the theme of loss in the game better than whatever the fuck Quiet was supposed to be.
What is the story. There fucking isn't one for most of the game. Skullface will sometimes show up in unrelated missions, say like one line, then fuck off. Quiet is just there, she has no actual connection to what's going on, and was forced into that hospital section. Oh, she has vocal parasites, but that doesn't really matter at all.
Liquid is there, but it's just for pointless fanservice and his story is incomplete.
The rest of the characters don't really matter. Fuck, half of them aren't even characters, just exposition machines.
I'd buy it no even kidding
>MGS5 was SO shit that people are still making up fake content rumors to compensate for it being such complete dogshit 4 years after release
Imagine unironically defending a factually unfinished tech demo and the most disappointing game of the past decade.
>implying he would ever admit to how he wants to suck mommy Boss' titty while she jerks him off
S-Stop I can only get so erect
>babby needs to be spoonfed
lol, typical of people who dump on this game, can't do anything but stomp and cry
>Skullface doesn't have a story.
Pure shitposting nonsense
>Chico was supposed to show up, he fucking doesn't
[citation needed] he's dead there is no reason for him to show up.
>Liquid got cut
alright this is all bait and you jump to a stupid conclusion
I'm sorry but if you have a problem with a naked woman sidekick you have serious psychological issues.
One of the best games ever made :)
I’m glad you enjoyed it
Liquid and his conclusion was a direct reference to 2 you dense fuck. Im so sorry a planned concept level that never really fit the design of the game anyway got cut
If Kojimbo's masterplan was to make the players experience a "phantom pain" from the fucking missing ending and rushed second half, I'd say he succeeded flawlessly.
Sure you can stop whining now
The idea is that Quiet dies in the hospital and one of Ocelot's friends, a female sniper named Albatross, takes her role as buddy.
>Chico was supposed to show up
Not that user but he was, it was in that disk that had the cut-scene for the lord of the files mission
Something about a Central American civil war and Chico being apart of it was cut just like the promised return to Camp omega, he got cut and cut hard
that's retarded
>it's another everyone gets butthurt about Quiet thread
For over 6 years this one character has caused endless rectal ragnarok across all parts of the political spectrum.
The anal apocalypse will never cease, there can be no coping.
Both within the MGS universe and in the real world Quiet will continue to inspire endless seething. Forever hated, forever living rent free in every head, forever best waifu
again, plenty of games have concepts in development that don't make it to the final stage, that doesn't mean it was unfinished.
This. Anyone who wants to change Quiet's looks is unironically gay.
1.That's fan art
2.Chico "showing up" was from the art book and it says that it was a concept that was cancelled early in development
>Brought back Bomberman, finally
Shitting out a lot effort cash grab with a mobile game energy/stamina system is not "bringing back" Bomberman. Bringing him back would be giving us a full on adventure game like 64 or Generations. Regurgitating the bare minimum basic formula of the original games from 30 years ago is not a fucking revival. I bet you think those multiplayer DLC characters are "for the fans" and not just Konami making low effort attempts to say "see we still care about these franchises! You like us again, right?"
It's not about spoonfeeding, it's about proper storytelling.
There is no real middle to MGSV, as nothing shown in anything between the beginning and the ending, actually relates to the ending. It's all a bunch of shit getting in the way of the ending for all intents and purposes.
There's like small references to the ending twist, but no actual build up to it, it just fucking happens randomly once the game deems you worthy to see it.
>Pure shitposting nonsense
Alright, he has a story. It's shoehorned in garbage on the same level as the worst asspulls in fucking Marvel comics, and of course his character is essentially nothing other than a plot device to explain why Zero is actually a misunderstood person with Super AIDS.
>[citation needed] he's dead there is no reason for him to show up.
He would be far more relevant thematically, interesting and probably well written than Kojima's fapbait that is the non-character of Quiet
>alright this is all bait and you jump to a stupid conclusion
He did, this is fact.
>Liquid and his conclusion was a direct reference to 2 you dense fuck. Im so sorry a planned concept level that never really fit the design of the game anyway got cut
Except 2 wasn't a fucking prequel, it was meant to be the last game, and there was a good reason for Ocelot escaping with RAY not really mattering, that being the confusing and open ended nature of 2's ending.
V however is a prequel, and Liquid shows up in MGS1, with no giant robot and child soldiers except for Mantis. He disappears into the void and t poses off screen for like 20 years only to reappear in MGS1 with none of his shit from V with no explanation.
It's dumb, and you're dumb for defending it.
>Quiet has a major change. Now she is an Albatross, more “normal” and more dressed.
Why would anyone want to change Quiet?
I agree her personality and story isn't that great and could use some changes, but it's not necessary to change her looks to make her a better character.
Thus, people who demand are gay.
>It's not about spoonfeeding
>whines because he wasn't spoonfed enough
lmao
Yeah well, Given how Ground Zero's Camp Omega was promised to be in TPP it's safe to say it had something to do with Chico
>was cancelled early in development
more like they didn't want more work while Kojima toured Hollyjew instead of actually working on the game
>Fukushima
He was literally killed by yakuza
>there was a good reason for Ocelot escaping with RAY not really mattering
and there's a good reason for Liquid stealing Sally in V, just because you didn't understand it doesn't mean it's shit ;)
Putting so much emphasis on plot, particularly in a post modern deconstruction... never gonna make it i think...
>Why would anyone want to change Quiet?
Because she's not fit for polite company. She's like Alyx Vance but worse. A million times worse.
>Ground Zero's Camp Omega was promised to be in TPP
lol source. Again, shit gets cut in development it's how it goes.
She's nothing like Alyx in any way though.
Nah, he's actually been working for Sony for a while. He was last credited on a game in 2017. You know what else happened in 2017? Senior Metal Gear developers started returning to Konami. Something is happening. It's not necessarily this something, but it is something.
>mom gets freaked out when she sees me looking at Quiet so I had to secretly reinstall it on the family gateway and play late when she's asleep
youtube.com
literally here's a time stamp
let it go
>QUIET WAVES HER ASS IN SNAKE'S FACE.
>SHAKES THAT GROOVE THING.
>LITERAL SHOWER SCENES.
>WEARS A BIKINI BECAUSE *EXTREMELY COMPELLING* REASONS.
>"Wanting to remove Quiet from this game is absolutely baffling."
I'm glad this is the complete extent of your arguments. Buzzwords that don't address any arguments whatsoever. I won't respond to anymore of your posts because arguing against a cultist is fruitless.
Oh, it's my fault Kojima wrote a terrible unfinished story. It's my fault I don't read your fucking blog so you can educate me on how Liquid stealing a giant robot, disappearing and then showing up without it years later is really deep and just like MGS2, when they're completely different.
Even IF you were right, that would just be needless fanservice, not actually symbolism or anything with thematic weight. It holds no place in the story, unless you're one of those tards who says "It's the PHANTOM PAIN DON'T YOU GET IT", which means you're saying the game is shit on purpose.
>Literally ever female Character in MGS> Quiet> MGS4 Naomi
hurr even redd*t knows that was a mistranslation, keep up.
You need to present an argument with more thought than "i hate it so it sucks" first...
>Oh, it's my fault
Yeah it's your fault for being unable to keep up
Rent free
Plotlines are unfinished and just left there and was rushed out due to Kojima burning all of the money on weed and hookers in hollywood
bro, the plotlines are finished in MG and onward
also
>giving a shit about plot in fucking metal gear of all things
never gonna make it
>In MGSV I'm trying something new, something that I don't think have ever even heard of in the game industry, can't talk to much about that yet but hopefully I'll be able to surprise a lot of people with that.
Kojima has succeeded in making the players experience MGSV The Phantom Pain
>Alright, he has a story. It's shoehorned in garbage
Oh fuck off. That doesn't make sense at all Skull Face is in GZ and his motives and character is plainly laid out for us for the first time. It only develops from there. I have no idea where you're coming from here it makes no sense.
>and of course his character is essentially nothing other than a plot device to explain why Zero is actually a misunderstood person with Super AIDS.
No. No it isn't. It's more to bring to the forefront themes of culture, and identity, which is a major part of the game. And not just with Skull Face, identity is a common theme among characters in the game. He happens to fuck over zero yes but that's not all his character amounts to.
>He would be far more relevant thematically, interesting and probably well written than Kojima's fapbait that is the non-character of Quiet
Ok sure nice opinion.
>He did, this is fact.
He did what? In your post prior you said a bunch of vague shit and said CAUSE KOJIMBO CAN'T WRITE!!
The biggest problem with MGSV is that the world is just so fucking empty. Mother Base is gigantic but there's nothing to do there besides shitty target practice minigames. Afghanistan and Africa are goddamn enormous but there are no civilians, no towns, no random encounters outside of missions or Side Ops. If feels so artificial and empty.
>supposed to be a huge war in Afghanistan
>never see any Muzzie fighters just out of place Soviets
BUT IT'S FINISHED GUYS, TRUST ME
He succeeded in getting fired
>le empty
nah, part of the fun about open world games is travelling to your location. Also, if you're actually engaging with the game's mechanics even in the middle of nowhere there's animals to hunt and cages to lay down to keep down your devil points
What about Eli and the Child Soldiers? there is no build up to the reveal of the body double twist, it's just handed to you at the end
Mother base also has the Paz sidequest which was fucking great imo.
>ignores that the game takes place behind enemy lines
This tired argument again?
>The biggest problem with MGSV is that the world is just so fucking empty.
The Demon Edition rumour coincidentally claims that the open world has been revamped into a warzone with different factions fighting for control. Think Far Cry. Rescue civilians from execution, recruit NPCs to accompany you with permadeath, stuff like that.
PLEASE BE REAL.
Don't do it user. I lost the rage a while ago, now all there is is sadness, and an empty feeling that comes from knowing what a missed opportunity it was.
The anger was better.
>Game takes place behind enemy lines
>Unironically thinking that the Soviet Afghan war had 'Front lines'
That's the point. Eli doesn't give a fuck about Venom
>waaaah this villain acted very rude to me wtf kojima???
brilliant
Nice source you got there.
>rumour turns out to be true
>its MGS hype all over again
>with 200% more shitposting
I explained why MGSV didn't have a good middle resulting in a forced ending.
Because none of the story in the middle actually relates to that ending in a story way. Some of it just barely relates to it in a thematic way I am sure Kojima didn't even know about, but there's no story connecting it. Just one line from Huey wondering if he's Big Boss. Skullface doesn't know, Quiet doesn't know, Code Talker is an exposition machine so he wouldn't say anything of value, and Eli doesn't know either.
Actually, was about to post this, but remembered one thing. They tested Eli to see if he was BiBo's son but he wasn't. So yeah, there's also that, but it's a throwaway line relating to a character with no conclusion in the story, so it doesn't matter.
>Oh fuck off. That doesn't make sense at all Skull Face is in GZ and his motives and character is plainly laid out for us for the first time. It only develops from there. I have no idea where you're coming from here it makes no sense.
It develops alright. He becomes just like Code Talker, an exposition machine with a funny accent so you don't realize how flat and one note his character really is.
>No. No it isn't. It's more to bring to the forefront themes of culture, and identity, which is a major part of the game.
Shame that theme barely fucking matters as it's hidden behind Kojima misunderstanding 1984 and Quiet's ass.
>Ok sure nice opinion.
Oh yes, please enlighten me on Quiet's great character, that is totally there, trust me guys, it's not like she was just there because it got Kojima hard.
>He did what? In your post prior you said a bunch of vague shit and said CAUSE KOJIMBO CAN'T WRITE!!
I said Liquid got cut. Here you are justifying shit writing by jumping through so many hoops and can't understand 3 fucking words.
Just admit the game sucked, and move on. Everybody else has, it's just you fucking cultists.
>part of the fun about open world games is travelling to your location.
Yeah, and traveling around in MGSV is fucking dull. Ride your horse or drive a car, either way the roads are super linear and nothing happens
Can't really have fun traveling to a different location if it's just to get to the next objective. Might as well just get there with pequod. If only there was something like MGS3 with hunting animals and having to worry about food then it'd make traveling more interesting. Shit, even random encounters that would lead into meeting quiet/skulls instead of just being relevant for 4 missions.
Far Cry is shit m8
It takes place away from enemy engagement, this is even alluded to in back up back down. Even so that's still no proof that the game was ever intended to take place in a warzone like that
>Now she is an Albatross, more “normal” and more dressed.
No buy.
>I explained why MGSV didn't have a good middle resulting in a forced ending.
You explained how you have no idea how the story's middle connects with the end and that's because you're obviously a brainlet. And again, you aren't supposed to take the plot of MGS that seriously, dong so shows you don't understand the series so when you try to argue like you're some sort of authority it doesn't work
>Far Cry is shit m8
Far Cry is the game MGS V wishes it was.
>bruh just don't take it seriously IT'S JUST FOR FUN KOJIMA ISN'T A TERRIBLE WRITER THAT MGS2 INTERVIEW DIDN'T HAPPEN DADDY KOJIMA ERASED IT FOR US
Yeah, I'm done with you. I was going to take you seriously, but then you told me not to.
You deserve Death Stranding. Can't wait for it to be shit, just like MGSV, but for you to be there, Kojima's dick already in your ass, typing away in defense of it.
>Even so that's still no proof that the game was ever intended to take place in a warzone like that
except that mission where you have to save an Afghan POW and a couple of other ones
irl, the Mujahideen even raided the USSR at some points with the direction MGS4 took during act 1 and 2 where you can choose sides in fire fights, it was an interesting take sadly all of that possibility got thrown out the window when Kojima decided to waste his time in LA smoking pot with that walking dead guy
This is a more believable format than the other ones. No one leaks a game with the details the other exceededly worded weirdly descripted version of the "leak" does.
Next time you wanna make something up just start with something similar to this.
Metal Gear Solid 5: Retarded Hypefag Fanservice Edition
Reminder that Konami has no reason to ever remake MGSV. It sold very well and got critical acclaim.
There was that leak of FFXV that went into painful detail about how much of a shitshow production was and literally every detail was correct right down to all the plot points they listed out.
You say that as thought Atlus aren't making Persona 5R despite the game selling well.
Or like Konami wouldn't want to try to triple dip on the MGS fanbase
>an exposition machine with a funny accent so you don't realize how flat and one note his character really is.
So he's like any fucking villain? Wow you're telling me the absolutely insane antagonist likes to rant and act like a narcissist? No shit sherlock.
>Shame that theme barely fucking matters as it's hidden behind Kojima misunderstanding 1984 and Quiet's ass.
It barely matters because you don't care, ok, it matters to me. And it's definitely there.
>Oh yes, please enlighten me on Quiet's great character
I'm not stating my opinion on Quiet I'm just saying that you have an opinion which no way backs up your claim of there being no resolution or story or the game only being half finished.
>I said Liquid got cut. Here you are justifying shit writing by jumping through so many hoops and can't understand 3 fucking words.
Just admit the game sucked, and move on. Everybody else has, it's just you fucking cultists.
No go back
I mean the conclusion you come to of "kojima can't write" based on what you said before. It's a rash conclusion.
I am not arguing if the game sucked or not. Just that it isn't as unfinished as you claim. Also I'm a cultist because I dare refute your claims? Ok, more nonsense.
IMAGINE THE CAMERA ZOOMING IN ON KOJIMA IN THE AUDIENCE LOOKING SAD AS PEOPLE SCREAM WITH DELIGHT AT THE "METAL GEAR SOLID V: BUT ACTUALLY GOOD NOW" TRAILER PLAYS.
why do fags like you still believe this?
Switch runs the remaster of Skyrim. Switch runs modern games with lower settings. Switch can run anything on PS3 in handheld mode. All it takes is a little bit of effort from the devs to get last gen games to run even better on Switch. Anything ps3 can do, Switch can do even better in handheld mode. Let alone docked.
>So he's like any fucking villain? Wow you're telling me the absolutely insane antagonist likes to rant and act like a narcissist? No shit sherlock.
If you only look at the prequels, that's true, sure. Liquid and Solidus were both infinitely better because their 8 minute monologue about what they were doing was either filled with some banter between themselves and the MC, or they were actually well thought out in their actions.
>I'm not stating my opinion on Quiet I'm just saying that you have an opinion which no way backs up your claim of there being no resolution or story or the game only being half finished.
Alright, fine. Why is Chapter 2 mostly repeat missions? If Mission 51 is on a separate island, why does that island only have one mission? Why are most of the side ops repeats? Why is Huey not actually worked into the main story? Why does the final mission just appear, and why is it so jarring, even with Mission 51 added in?
Answer these, and you'll see why MGSV is only half done.
>I mean the conclusion you come to of "kojima can't write" based on what you said before. It's a rash conclusion.
You only singled out "Liquid got cut", forgive me for missing your deep hidden message that is totally there, Kojima-san.
MGS V vanilla running on Switch is completely plausible. Ubisoft got Assassin's Creed 3 running (poorly) on the Switch. Nobody said that it had to run WELL. Also stuff like Saints Row 3 and Red Faction are on Switch. SR3 ran like garbage on PS3. Runs marginally better on Switch.
topkek
>MGSV barely runs on the PS3
This is a lie, MGSV is a miracle of science that runs well on every machine.
MGS V does not run well on the PS3 at all.
Reminder that the licensed MGS board game is releasing in December.
you fucking idiots. You're the type of tards that need everything to run at one hundred million frames per second, while at 14k resolution with photorealistic everything. Shut the fuck up.
As someone who spent over 100 hrs on MGSV on my slim ps3, it runs perfectly fine. Maybe it runs better on PS4 bbut that doesn't mean it runs bad on PS3. Bad would be WWE 2k18 on Switch. That's bad where you can't even play aything above 1 on 1 matches because it's nigh unplayably slow. MGSV is far from being unplayable. In fact, it's the exact opposite. It's so playable, that I played it for over 100 hours.... fuck off and lick Code Talker's asshole you gay bastards.
>If you only look at the prequels, that's true, sure. Liquid and Solidus were both infinitely better because their 8 minute monologue about what they were doing was either filled with some banter between themselves and the MC, or they were actually well thought out in their actions.
Look I'll admit that Liquid and Solidus were better, but I liked Skull Face from the get go in Gz. He's interesting, and his dialogue was fucking great. I think he's a fine villain.
>You only singled out "Liquid got cut", forgive me for missing your deep hidden message that is totally there, Kojima-san.
I said "this is all" so I was taking in more than that. But the reason I called it out as bait was because of that statement.
>Why is Chapter 2 mostly repeat missions?
There are some repeated missions and then mainly story missions.
>If Mission 51 is on a separate island, why does that island only have one mission?
It's not entirely impossible that there was only one thing that was to happen there.
>Why are most of the side ops repeats?
Side ops are clearly just an excuse to play the game, that's the best part actually playing it.
>Why is Huey not actually worked into the main story?
I don't get what you mean, Huey has a pretty big role in the main story.
>Why does the final mission just appear, and why is it so jarring, even with Mission 51 added in?
I can't answer this, I finished the game years ago but am replaying it now.
Some things are definitely unfinished, and some things were definitely cut. I'm not going to argue any of that. But half done is a bit much, saying skull face has no story is silly, people tend to really exaggerate the problems with the game.
Maybe you guys are just fucking beyond pissed about it not being complete, and I get that but can't relate cause I haven't been sitting dwelling on what isn't right since it came out. There is plenty to like about the game and good moments. I must have listened to the truth tapes a dozen times.
The things that feel half done for me are all the minor things I don't even see people complain about. Like Kaz endlessly repeating the same 3-4 lines any fucking time you see a sniper or ocelot with a chopper, quiet humming with no option to turn it off, there being almost no radio lines when you target different things, which is a staple of the game, the gunplay feels extremely rigid, which feels like they didnt fully get to grasp the fox engine, the movement control changes from ground zeros to TPP reinforce this too, and noticeably how rigid the revenge system is with enemy outposts, the way the game tries to ramp up difficulty is insanely linear and doesn't do anything to make the game harder. Overall the game just feels like it lacks a lot of the little details I expect from that dev team.
bought definite edition yesterday...
Ground0s way disappointing, but I like V so far.
what are actual issues? still fairly early in Afghan part
If all of this is true then I'm just gonna replay the original MGSV and won't give a shit about this kazimalreadyademon edition.
Not much. Just fanboys mad that their headcanon wasn't true. Chapter 1 is the main story, while Chapter 2 is pretty much a glorified epilogue with some repeat missions. A certain sub-plot got abandoned because Kojimbo got fired before they could finish an extra DLC mission.
I would suck dick for a switch version
GOD DAMMIT STOP SPAMMING THIS
I AM SEEING IT EVERYWHERE
I DON'T WANT TO BE DISSAPOINTED AGAIN
THIS WOULD BE MILES BETTER THAN A FUCKING MGS3 REMAKE
The game isn't bad, just dissapointing compared to the other games. the story almost is useless compared to the other games, Skull face who was very hyped literally dies in a cutscene without any boss battle. and the eli plot is worthless since it was supposed to be dlc from the start, a dlc that never was finished.
It's the best game in the series lmao
Fuck kojima and fuck niggers
Not really.
in fact, it doesn't really feel like a MG at all.
that's why a lot of people are pissed, and also because of some other shit.
you mean, fuck kikongos? youtube.com
Yes really. And it felt like a natural extension of the operations games from the handhelds while also beating some of the main series' staples like cloaked in silence extreme being even better than The End
I agree, but also feel that certain tactics were far too strong. Tranq Sniper and fulton extractions have no reasonable counter tactics and are heavily encouraged by the entire motherbase system.
I think a lot of people that didn't play peace Walker were left confused, because that game wasnt marketed as a canon game, supposedly thanks to Konami, but you find yourself lost if you went from 3 -> gz
jesus user, you have shit taste or something, V had the worst boss of the series, even Survive had better bosses.
since I'm so early in the game, it feels like Metal Gear Solid 3, Peacewalker, and Red Dead Redemption were tossed into a blender.
Metal Gear Rising isn't really Metal Gear, but it's fun.
PW always was marketed as a canon game, just not as a MGS5, and thankfully, because having MGS5 to be a "portable game" would be very weird.
if konami didn't marketed it as a canon game, they wouldn't have released it again on PS3 and 360.
Metal gear rising is more MG than V in it's theme and setting.
heck, at least MGRR have the codec, unlike V, and memorable bossfights, also unlike V.
I liked MGSV story
MALE TO FEMALE
WOLBACHIA
COPULATE
GZ updated with the better gameplay of mgsv would be neat.
>more dressed
It wasn't just marketed as a "canon game", it was marketed as "A Hideo Kojima Game", making it more legit than Portable Ops.
Me too. It's got some nice subtexts and kino moments. The presentation is just kinda dull
For the fans, every hideo game are canon.
don't blame everything on Konami.
portable ops have nothing making it non canon, it's just not made by Kojima.
Where the fuck were you at the time? Every single fan out there knew PW was canon from the start.
to be honest, more dressed could be like EVA. it's still less lewd than quiet but lewd enough.
Yeah, sorry, meant as mgs 5. Afaik Konami explicitly stopped him from calling it mgs 5
>- The new English voice acting. Snake's voice is Richard Doyle.
God I love lies.
What's with people faking leaks all the time now?
Once the tits are out of the box, why put them back in?
lol why don't you learn to play the game first
lmao
Man I thought this was real for a second
Yes, because they're going to keep POWs on the battle lines and not safe in an encampment in controlled territory where the enemy can't easily reach them. I'm sure that's how it works.
I'm amused people actually believe that Konami gives a damn about the English voice acting of the MGS games when they always had awful dubs.
Not a snowball chance in hell.
Where's David?, fuck Konmai.
what is an albatross ?
to be honest, marketwise and salewise, having MGS5 being a mobile game would not be very good.
but PW started before as hideo only as the producer, he became the director because the team had problems making the game more "teenage friendly" like hideo wanted.
Konami barely promoted Portable Ops, whereas Peace Walker received a big marketing push.
What is an albatross ?
>you're forgetting, this is Konami after being jewed by Kojima, who wasted so much fucking money during MGSV's development
Yea, because Konamy doesnt gain more money than any japan videogame company (except Nintendo and maybe Square Enix) thanks to pachinko and the mafia/yakuza
MGS V moneys were just small change
David already returned at Konami in bomberman R last year. he voiced Solid snake and naked snake.
he probably would return if Solid Snake is in the game, he said recently in an interview he already have a voice for a younger solid snake.
cant you just let her die at the start?
It being released in december would make sense, the MG board game release at the same time.
The girls who go to slut marches complain about characters in skimpy clothing, really make think
>Kid Liquid is there for all of five minutes
>Chico only shows up in Ground Zeroes to be set-up for more important things in Phantom Pain, but never shows up, neither does Amanda (cut reasons, given: LOL THEY'RE FIGHTING THEIR WAR IN THEIR COUNTRY NOW).
There's numerous plotholes and obvious cut-content areas for the game.
Konami promoted PO, just less than PW, but hideo may also be responsible for this since he always tried to ignore PO beside in MGS4.
he even said in a PW interview that PW was the first portable MG, ignoring PO, ACID1,ACID2 and Ghost Babel.
Niiiice
i just want a MGS3 HD port to ps4 is that too hard to ask
You can shoot her after her boss fight, but you lose a bunch of content, which seems like a bad call if you're already someone that's upset about how few cutscenes their are, which also leads to why so many people dislike her, they feel as if shes given too much importance (a lot of the side cutscenes require you to have her, you lose probably the strongest buddy, you don't get her achieves, and you miss out on the holdout mission without her, etc etc) when she doesn't serve much of a purpose.
A remake of MGS3 is probably for the next gen.
they can't port the hd collection without bluepoint (that's why it was made retrocompatible and on the PSnow), and bluepoint are already working in an unknown project (some people says it's a MGS1 remake but we ain't sure.)
You'll miss Ground Zeroes once you get out of Afghanistan and find out Africa is just as barren as Afghanistan.
Ground Zeroes is a way more tight experience, barring the lack of open world and it's a goddamn shame Kojima and team couldn't make Phantom Pain like that.
the story also implies she is with you in some tapes and skull face dialogue when dying doesn't change even when quiet is dead.
Quiet made killable was an after though and it seem Kojima only wanted people to keep her alive, maybe that's why she is also very op.
>numerous plot holes
>hasn't mentioned one
Okay
A MGS thread is not a MGS thread without a proper MGS character generator.
Quick Yea Forums ! Create your own MGS supersoldier !
GZ would be more a MG than TPP if it had a boss fight honestly.
But Africa and Afghanistan are just a collection of CO like bases, not to mention the fob maps
Cut to Keighley smiling in revenge for no longer being Kojima's favorite
neat
Really? Never heard that about mgs4. I believe you, but do you have a source?
oh :(
>people still this asshurt abut Quiet
It's beautiful
Google just shows me a bird
The OP obviously isn't implying that Quiet turns into a bird, so Google isn't doing jack shit to help me
Looks like you're the retard
Nu males, feminists, and game journalists aren't people tho.
basically, MGS4 was supposed to be made by Murata, but the fan got apeshit and sended death treats because of that, forcing Kojima to return.
probably the same kind of people saying "No metal gear without Kojima".
it's funny, everyone says Kojima got fired of Konami when it literally can't happen without him making a CRIME, Kojima left Konami on his own.
Will we still be forced to do those fob missions online?
you weren't really forced to do that in V so i doubt it.
Why don't they pump out a fixed MGSV and remakes of the older games?
>Male
>Lightning Eagle
>Cold War
>Well-established
>Silent and lonely
>Survivalist
>No esoteric abilities
>Light cybernetization
>Terrorist group in a dictatorial country
>Obedient professional
>Wears one color clothes
remake of the older games are probably for the next gen.
but MGSV is very controversial, they probably do this game to more or less "remake MGSV" without it being MGSV.
>she's not fit for polite company
Then don't play this specific game in your dad's living room. Faggot.
Quiet being cut of the game would make sense, no code talker = no parasite, and no parasite = Quiet don't survive.
In order to have more soldiers and upgrade facilities/weapons faster, you needed the FOBs. But the problem is anyone could just steal your stuff and affect your main game.
Knowing Konami they probably would keep this.
But Survive had less mtx than V so who knows. at least they don't care about loot box...
roll for cute waifu
Reminder that Metal Gear Survive is canon.
Probably testing the waters for MGS without Kojimbo?
Well
even if it's canon the story get retconned at the end anyway.
so it's a weird state of "could be canon but is compeltely worthless"
Did you fucking fail to read?
>Chico in Ground Zeroes
>Never mentioned in the Phantom Pain
>Despite being on the fucking helicopter that crashes and is at Mother Base during the assault by returning with Big Boss/Venom.
That's one. There's numerous others if you actually look instead of being a retard and putting your head in the sand and going "nuh-uh, the game is complete!"
Here's another:
>Chapter 3: PEACE
Where the fuck is the Chapter 3? We only got 2, and that's cut-content on the fucking disk of the game. There was an entire section Kojima was going to go for with that, but isn't mentioned because it was deleted or never started due to the Konami/Kojima feud that stopped development and Kojima consulting on the games development for a good fucking year since he was busy trying to make the Fox Engine Konami's middleware rental option.
Now kill yourself, nigger.
i mean, they already did it in the past with GB and PO, but yeah i understand,a modern MGS
chapter 3 wasn't a full chapter, it was just the paz questline leading to mission 46.
We got most of MGSV, Adult chico wasn't like Quiet and was just for one mission.
Chico gets a single mention in a tape. Pretty shit
>even if it's canon the story get retconned at the end anyway.
Yes and no. An alternate timeline is created where the wormhole is never created, but your character is stuck in the other timeline. Now here's something interesting to think about. Morpho was almost shot down over Mother Base, but your character saved him. Without your character, Morpho crashes into Mother Base.
Survive establishes that time travel and parallel timelines exist in the Metal Gear universe. This could be important going forward.
What if this new version of MGS V takes place in a different timeline to the original version? You never saved Morpho, so the chopper crashed and Skull Face killed Medic. And everything flowed out from that.
At first, i thought this rumour was 100% fake, but now i'm not even sure because it's really spreading everywhere and fast. like it was a konami employes doing this.
still, i don't believe it for the most because making a remake as the next MG (i'm 100% sure there's one in developement) would make more sense. still, would be very interested to see the rumour comes true.
well, goodluck does say he will "built a better future" at the end.
Hell, maybe MGSV was an alternate dimension from the start and this MGS5 would be the one leading to MGS1-2-4, or maybe they are doing that to do a soft reboot, with MGS5 ending being very different than the original timeline.
What ending could they do to surprise people? every MG games had a surprising ending.
Spreading everywhere fast ? I haven't seen it anywhere except here
I saw it on some japanese websites, 2chan, here, 8-chan, Reddit, and reseterra. + some other less known english website.
>implying Pachinko manufacturer would put any more funding into the Metal Gear frachise after the huge success that was Survive.
Also, your character in Survive is a sniper. In the opening, they stagger to their feet, pick up a sniper rifle, and take down the XOF soldier about to shoot down Morpho. And they have player-chosen gender. What if the female sniper Albatross is your character from MG Survive? What if they pulled a Goodluck and assumed a different identity in their effort to support Big Boss from the shadows? Just spitballing here. We are putting way too much thought into this. The original OP writer is likely laughing at us right now. It was probably a Konami employee just fucking with us.
The first time this rumor came out, I googled for source and only found links back to the thread.
Days later, websites are posting screenshots of those Yea Forums threads.
Now 'professional' gaming websites are doing the same, except without the screenshots.
Pachinko literally is the least selling part of Konami now.
they stopped the pachinko business in early 2018 and already started to slow down in 2017.
In almost two years they only released 3 pachinko of niche franchise. in comparaison they released 6 pachinko in 2016 alone of bigf franchise.
What kind of idiot still spouts the Pachinko meme in 2019?
>- Quiet has a major change. Now she is an Albatross, more “normal” and more dressed.
A dozen people in this thread have asked for the "Albatross" thing to be explained, but nobody has explained it
What the fuck did OP mean by this?
It's simple. Quiet dies in the hospital. (Also Ishmael is a hallucination.) Ocelot has a friend named Albatross whom he introduces to Big Boss. She fills the sniper buddy role that Quiet did.
Nah i doubt it. all the survive cast are dead in the normal dimension. (at least most of them : Captain dies at motherbase, same for Reeve and Seth, Nicholas is a PF soldier, Miranda dies in the hospital raid by XOF/Volgin, Chris dies of his sickness...)
at best i could see a little bonus for the survive players like an outfit or something like that, like the little bonus they gave to the V players in Survive or the GZ players in TPP.
TPP players probably would also have a bonus in this game, maybe a venom snake skin?
i believe this leak is...partially right.
i think there's some truth, but also some fake. i doubt very much fukushima would return at Konami.
So it's slot machines then, big woop. Whatever business they are in it isn't the video game business. Get over it. They give their IPs out for licensing to Nintendo, Netflix and whoever is making the MG movie.
post yfw the leak somehow is real.
I'm playing Phantom Pain right now and D Dog wont grow up. I rescued him on mission 4 and I've completed everything up to fucking mission 15. What gives?
MG movie isn't happening.
they literally created a new studio for video game last years and recruited back some old members of Kojipro. they also release more games now than the old years.
they are returning to vidya, just slowly.
MG movie is still in development.
It takes a while for DD to grow.
The director talked about the film just 3 months ago the last time. You are full of shit.
Jordan literally have no right for the movie right now.
Nothing is done. the so called "concept arts" are fan arts he commissioned.
is that a gekko?
he want to make it, but nothing is done, no one accepted his script, no actors were contacted, nothing.
the movie could still never happen. even the Bioshock movie was more worked on when it got cancelled.
it is.
I googled it and people usually said they had him by the latest at mission 12. Was there some dumb update that made him grow super slow? Is it like a real time timer?
People in this thread discussing how Survive fits into the MGS timeline, are you retards going to discuss how Ape Escape and Monster Hunter are fitting into the timeline as well. Lmao stop trying to make sense of capitalism.
neat. been a few years since I have played I'm going to reinstall
Survive can fit into the timeline, it's taking place after MGRR in the future.
but it's irrelevant anyway because the story got retcon anyway.
user, that's not V.
this is from Survive.
That's survive user, not v
So i wonder.
even if this leak is real
why revealing it at Gamescom and not at E3?
You may as well ask why Survive was revealed at Gamescom instead of E3.
I'm currently replaying MGS1 and am at Psycho Mantis.
I just have to ask, what's the black screen with HIDEO supposed to mean?
they can do their own thing at gamescom while E3 is bigger players so konami would need to piggyback on another company
interesting. thanks for the info anons
probably because it wasn't a mainline game.
then again...Would this be a mainline game? or a spin off?
It was just Kojima finding a way to insert his name into it.
>but it's irrelevant anyway because the story got retcon anyway.
That isn't quite true. The timelines are all fucked up and your character is still trying to get home. Which timeline is the "real" one? Survive basically turns the Metal Gear series into a disjointed time travel narrative. Time paradoxes are hardly new to Metal Gear, mind you.
Didn't they get ignored at last year's e3? Like to an embarrassing degree?
>I just have to ask, what's the black screen with HIDEO supposed to mean?
A normal TV would say VIDEO
That Konami staff better fucking use the shit out of the Fox Engine is they want to sustain what Kojima left them. I want to see MGS5, MGS1-4 redone with the engine. And fucking port over MGSV to the Switch. I wanna waste hours on my bed.
It's supposed to look like old TVs channel numbers. Kinda like your TV is also being controlled by Mantis. Also
It's just an Easter egg of mantis "controlling" your TV, it's just how old school tvs worked when you'd change the channel
Cool, I can assume it's free as an apology for selling me the game unfinished before right?
The Survive timeline is the one fucked. if you return back in time for the bad ending, you infect the real world and continue the timeloop.
by breaking the timeloop, you erase the events of Survive, and so the wormhole never happen.
When the captain kill the xof soldier, it was before the wormhole activation. so the captain probably just drowned or got killed by a xof soldier.
Well, they presented the new contra at the nintendo conference.
but MG games when at E3 are for the most always announced at Sony.
This is utterly baseless. Even other sites are using 4channel as their citation, short of an official announcement this is nonsense.
Popular contemporary Sony TVs would display VIDEO (sometimes with a channel number) to indicate that the TV was turned on but it wasn't receiving anything
The HIDEO is written in the same font and color. It's supposed to make you think your PSX shut down for a second before you realize that it's actually a joke.
Well, they did a pretty big fox engine update for PES2020, i doubt it's just for PES...
And sony didn't have one this year soooo... gamescom
even if Sony was here, i doubt they would have announced a MG because of death stranding.
Let's fucking go, MGSV and HD Collection on the Switch pls
>by breaking the timeloop, you erase the events of Survive, and so the wormhole never happen.
This doesn't necessarily mean the "fixed" timeline is exactly the one people remember, though. I wouldn't be surprised if Konami use Survive to justify having stuff turn out differently in future games. Remember that Goodluck is still alive in the ending. Goodluck, aka Chris, went back in time and grew up in the 1940s. What kind of butterfly effect would that cause? What about the characters you rescued? What about Miranda? Where did she end up? If she went back in time and knew the hospital would be attacked, what impact would that have? See, I don't think the "wiped away the wormholes" ending is as clean as people think it was because Goodluck can't exist unless Chris gets sent back in time by your character.
they can't port the hd collection without bluepoint. and bluepoint are quite busy right now on a secret project.
Yeah I was referencing whenever survive was shown off and people kept taking pictures of the Konami booth basically being a ghost town, I can't remember what E3 that was
Switch fag
>What about the characters you rescued? >What about Miranda? Where did she end up?
the survive cast is on dite for their survive incarnation.
their alternate incarnation have no ideas of the events, so Miranda just got killed in the hospital.
Goodluck probably just made sure the nanomachine don't go batshit insane again and he succeeded it since Armstrong very probably use the same type of nanomachine, just controlled.
After the ending of survive, the two timeline are broken, Goodluck may be a different entities and almost an "alien" in this timeline. supernatural shit happen all the time in the MG world anyway.
E3 2017? but Survive literally got an award for best coop game and apparently some people were curious about the game and played it. hell even yong yea played it and liked it (but he backpedaled on this because it doesn't fit the narrative.)
I find it weird how MGS V never bothers explaining Big Boss/Venom's missing arm. In Survive, he loses his arm due to the wormhole. Of course this doesn't happen in the fixed timeline, but still...
Venom probably just lost his arm during the crash. i thought it was obvious.
If I'm going through the series in canon, when do I play survive? After gz but before tpp? Right now I'm starting with mgs3 -> PO -> PW -> GZ ->Survive -> TPP -> mg1 and 2 -> mgs -> 2 then finishing with 4.
after metal gear rising
survive takes place in 2175.
that was the captain that got their arm portaled off, the nanomachines regrew it
Then I'll settle with MGSV. My dire love for MGS wishes that this 'leak' is real. Fox Engine was made to be a legacy engine, running games as far back as PS2, if PES Series was any indication. The question is when, I've been waiting for Konami to cash in on this for a while now.
And no way they're gonna ditch MGS when they have the assets and engine, not even after Survive.
Wait what? They literally show it in the first cutscene...
In MGS V, the real Big Boss doesn't lose an arm, only Venom does.
god i fucking hope the story of this game will be better than survive then.
Survive literally is "nanomachine son" for the whole game, i was laughting my ass during the whole thing.
it was better than i expected, especially for a story mode made in less than a year.
..w-what?
arent you venom the whole game
>running games as far back as PS2
You mean PS3 right?
and yeah, they won't abandon MG, because it's literally their second most selling franchise.
peopel says "yeah but they abandonned silent hill", but even if Silent Hill is known by gamers, almost all the games were commercial failures and had trouble developments, SH2, the best and most popular SH game for most people, almost cancelled the serie because of poor sale.
the Silent Hill serie kinda is like spec ops the line : games well known by gamers nowadays, that sold VERY badly at release because no one wanted to care back then.
survive isn't an alternate universe, it's in the future after a nanomachine became sentient and fucked the world.
the game end with you erasing the event of the game by breaking a timeloop, fixing the events of the timeline and making survive never happening.
Let me get this straight.
In the 1980s, Chris is pulled into a wormhole. He is a young boy in a wheelchair dying of a disease that will kill him before he reaches 20. At the end of Survive, he is sent through another wormhole and appears in Philadelphia in 1943. The legendary Philadelphia Experiment. He then grows up and becomes Goodluck. And in turn sends your character through the wormhole who completes the loop of saving Chris and sending him back to the 1940s.
In the timeline where the wormhole never opens above Mother Base, Goodluck still knows about the your character because he met them when he was a child named Chris. He is determined to find a way to bring them back to this timeline.
Also, if Goodluck knows about the events in Dite because he was there, then this means that every character you send through the wormhole, including Miranda, knows about it. Even if their original versions die in this timeline, the OTHER versions popped out of a wormhole at some point just like Goodluck did.
Please don't be bullshit, please...
>You mean PS3 right?
With the exception of the 3DS and PSP versions using Havoc, the rest of the versions used Fox Engine.
No, they can't return. killing the lord of the dust make every wormholes impossible, because the lord of the dust was the source of the kuban energy.
i doubt very much this is fox engine user youtube.com
Is venom or bb in survive? I haven't played it yet, I bought it when it first came out and never actually got around to it.
Except Chris returns. The original Chris was a kid living in the 1980s. He likely died before 2000 without the wormhole. Goodluck is a version of Chris that was sent to Dite, and then sent back to 1943 by your character. At the end of Survive, Goodluck is scolded because the wormhole never happened. His prediction was wrong. But he still remembers what happened in Dite, and swears to find a way to bring you home. Logically, the characters you send through the wormhole at the end of the Survive wind up scattered throughout the decades. They're alive, just like Goodluck. These versions are, at least. The versions that belong to this timeline never get pulled into the wormholes and likely die in various ways.
just BB during the destruction of mother base from the end of GZ
Big Boss have a cameo at the beginning during the mother base attack, with Miller, but he doesn't shows up in the game after this. Sahalentropus from KoF and the mother base from V maje an appearance in the game.
the alternate ending make a reference to V though, even if this ending is non canon. youtube.com
Big Boss has a cameo during the game's opening.
>the characters you send through the wormhole at the end of the Survive
user, no other characters entered the wormhole at the end of Survive, beside Chris (and captain in the bad ending, but he's infected so it just make a timeloop again.)
Reminder that Calling to the Night > rest
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>PS2 version
Well duh! The only people who were still buying new PS2 games in fucking 2014 were poorfag countries that were a console generation behind.
portable ops remake neve ever
What's with this demon edition stuff? Is Caramel back at it again?
Ah, I remember now. Thanks for the correction. So all the Survive timeline versions are stuck in the Survive timeline. Goodluck was the only one who escaped to the new timeline. So he's trying to bring all others back.
Nah, caramel believed DS was MGS6
this is another stuff, still seem fake but less fake than DS is MGS6 or DS is silent hills.
but even if this is fake, another MG game is 100% in developement right now.
>So he's trying to bring all others back.
Sadly it can't happen because Goodluck doesn't know the timeline is now completely broken.
So I figured out what the problem was holy fuck I am platinum mad. You have to go to motherbase and leave it by calling in a helicopter at a landing spot. I always just pause the game and go directly to the ACC. Holy shit that is fucking dumb. Everyone just kept telling me to go back to motherbase but I guess everyone is a mouthbreather who forgot to mention that it's not about how you get there it's about how you leave.
Tell me a more pathetic fanbase that is still seething after 4 years like the MGS one
We don't seeth, we just want a new game.
megaman fans?
Well the original pasta included Hayter AND Fukushima. Just another reason this shit is complete nonsense some fag made up.
They probably didn't get as much time to play test as they needed. Honestly MGSV could have done for another 6 months and it would have been perfect.
He was in a helicopter crash, what's to explain?
Nah, it wasn't hayter, it was richard doyle.
and hayter is in good relation with Konami, he already returned.
>hey probably didn't get as much time to play test as they needed.
5
YEARS
What's Fukushima even doing these days? Has he even done anything notable post-MGS3?
he worked as a QR guy at Sony japan studio for some niche vita games, but he hasn't done anything since 2016-2017 i think.
he really went to pieces, last I heard he was on a fishing boat heading into the pacific
>he worked as a QR guy at Sony japan studio for some niche vita games, but he hasn't done anything since 2016-2017 i think.
And this interests me because the vibe I've gotten is that a number of Konami people came back around 2017 to work on the new game.
We knows that the main programmer of MGS1-2-3-GB returned.
but we don't know on what he is working.
even if there's no announcement at Gamescom, we could have a clear picture of who is at Konamiand who followed Kojima with the release of Death strandings. (we knows the majority didn't followed Kojima but we don't know most of the names.)
and with the credits of contra rogue corps, we could see if the MG team only do MG games or not. if this is the case, then 100% they are working on a MG.
Hayter was on the list of shit I saw posted here just yesterday too you faggot. Don't even try to tell me otherwise because you're just outing yourself.
Nobody fucking knows. Japs are reclusive as shit and tend to not share much to the public.
user, the original text isn't from yesterday. It said richard doyle, not hayter.
Wasnt he on mobile shit?
No, this is Nojiri. who became a salary man for a mobile company after the shitfest that was neverdead.
he does still have some ties with Konami however, and is still listed on his linkedin at Konami, it's a little weird.
konami.com
General Manager,
Technical Development Department,
Production Division 1
Looking at later reports, it appears they have at least 4 Product Divisions. But I don't know division does what.
3 divisions work on vidyas.
Division 1 is console games
division 2 is mobile games
division 3 is console games
Division 4 is probably yugioh shit
Actually you're right because now I remember the first post lamented on Hayter needing to be in too. It's still fake though so fuck you.
Except the ACTUAL lore is photosynthesis
i also believe it's fake, but i would love it to be real.
but regardless, a new MG will be announced soon enough, this year or the next for sure.
Normie detected, probably his first mgs game ever
Why are Japanese companies so obsessed with numbered developers instead of giving them actual names?
Japanese companies work pretty differently than in the west.
>albatross
I think they are just big fucking seagulls, with a badass name.
>Division 4 is probably yugioh shit
makes sense, both the vidya and physical cards are classified as digital entertainment
Konami isn't even on the list of publishers to announce new game.
Overhead the albatross hangs motionless upon the air
And deep beneath the rolling waves in labyrinths of coral caves
The echo of a distant time comes willowing across the sand
And everything is green and submarine
The list is incomplete. That's why it says "And more..." at the bottom. Also, Konami are holding private meetings with industry and press at Gamescom. They are up to something, even if this rumour is bullshit.
>They are up to something, even if this rumour is bullshit.
they're remaking their greatest game ever, it's time for batman returns returns
the list also says "and more" when saying about the studios, showing they aren't showing everyone.
it would be a surprise reveal for sure.
and konami are confirmed to be at gamescom, but just for Contra and PES (for now.)
I have a hunch it's next E3. I think some insiders were dropping hints in the Konami E3 threads this year.
Although final part in MGS wasn't perfect it was quite enjoyable to play, it was good game in my opinion and i would gladly play something like that now.
Why do you people do this to yourselves? Don't you have video gmaes to play?
>Konami are holding private meetings with industry and press at Gamescom
sauce?
Well, it's either Gamescom, Games award or E3.
TGS isn't big enough for an announcement of a new game like this. it's better to show gameplay of an already announced game.
Always bugged me that the word here should be billow.
I've probably been checking google results for MGS for about a decade now
>Added about 3 hours of cutscenes.
Yep, that's exactly what a Metal Gear game needs.
Jesus that's confusing.
They want their games to be attributed to Konami and Konami alone, not to a development team with an actual name, like Kojima Productions.
not just Konami do that though. most japanese companies to it.
>In addition to the consumer and Yu-Gi-Oh! booths, KONAMI will host private meetings for industry and media attendees at their dedicated business booth in Hall 4.2.
konami.com
well, even if the leak is fake, we may have a leak of this private meeting, did they did one last year?
Booth 1 is Contra and PES, Booth 2 is Yugioh, Booth 3 is private shit.
this doesn't really mean there's something new, there was also this for last year konami.com
A master ruse, and one of the few larps I actually want to believe.... “no, let it go...”
I bet Hayter will be pleased to hear Sutherland hasn’t stolen his job once again. I had always thought it was a better idea to be consistent and either let Hayter handle Big Boss. This is fine too.
Same deal, it's just branding. If all the good products are credited simply to the company as a whole then people will be more likely to buy their other products. If people just like games from a development team with a distinct name they might just stick to buying games from that one team.
NO MORE RUSES
I BEG YOU
I SUFFERED TROUGH ENOUGH OF THEM
Kief is bro with Hayter now
Remember when Rareware didn't allow any of their developers to give interviews until GoldenEye? The Stampers were kinda dicks in hindsight. They also made dismissive remarks about how working 9-5 meant a 9-5 game. Which is why people like David Doak were working 100 hour weeks.
Thats a shitty idea.
Instead of doing more thoughtful writing around Venom Snake being the vessel for the player, you want yet an another plot hole in the series.
Being a false snake, having you indentity taken and your arm taken by your idol will make anybofy mad, it will set a good vilain because Big Boss is the vilain.
Remember, V was the game for Vemon and that explain why Big Boss is the vilain.
Is this shit actually happening or is it someone reposting it over and over?
To make things clear, the game is intended to stomp out Kojima''s vision of the series (despite the rendition being built on alot of unused concepts Hideo discarded).
Reflected in the title, which is Metal Gear Solid 5, instead of V.
Some discard previously, but brought back ideas include the hospital escape being far more horrific and demonic, Boss hallucinates the staff as Undead horrors.
Quiet has been...reworked. The character has been split into two. "Quiet" now dies in the hospital after being set on fire "by" Ishmael (whose legit a hallucination/spirit of Venom) the AI buddy ally half of her character is now a Ukraine sniper, Albatross, a completely new character. Fully clothed, she's a mercenary in league with the Soviets. Still an AI buddy, but much more mundane, and is a associate of Ocelot.
You get to bring generic Diamond Dog soldiers with you on missions, they act as expendable buddies. (And can be perma killed)
D.D, D.Horse, and D.Walker are in unchanged.
Entirely new buddies include Battle Gear, which was previously cut from the game. Basically the Zeke building segment of Peace Walker...with the addition of being able to drive it (deploying cost alot though). And Red. (Chico as he was supposed to be in Phantom Pain. Is also a midgame boss.)
Only characters consist to their PP portrayal are Kaz (whose still an angry prick with the same role) and Huey (whose still a treasonous bastard) Ocelot and Skullface might as well be two completely different characters. Code Talker has been cut.
Is being billed as a "game as a service". Reworked Kingdom of the Flies is a pre order bonus, and they'll be addition sub narratives as DLC. Only way really the higher ups greenlighted the project in the first place.
Release date is December this year.
Except venom is nothing like the player, he's a character on his own, except he feel shallowed because he doesn't speak for shit.
he was supposed to speak more, but this was literally cut late in developement because kojima liked Mad max.
It's probably lies, but it sounds so crazy that a lot of people want it to be real.
Peace Walker already explained why Big Boss was the villain, though.
It was literally decided early on that he would be silent.
Fury Road wasn't the first Mad Max film. Kojima said years before that film came out that Snake was going to be a mostly silent protagonist because of Mad Max 2. The cut lines were inconsequential and a lot of them sounded like Kojima just wanted to get Kiefer to shout some dumb shit.
user there's literally some cut dialogues in the files easily implemented back with mods like this youtube.com
he didn't said that the year before, he said that in februrary 2015.
user i don't speak frog.
This dude is just coping
What kind of stupid cunt does that in the mirror. If I had a daughter that did that I would beat her.