Really woggles my minggles

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>human attributes on monsters
>cool

Yeah nah
If you think that, you'd be happier with Yokai Watch than Pokemon

>Yeah nah
wtf is wrong with you? its so fucking amazing and your too far up your own ass trying to impress imaginary laughing people. get a load of yourself and press f

alolan golem is magnetic from living near a power plant, the facial hair is fine iron scraps that attach to their face magnetically
alolan dugtrio has locks based on pele's hair
galarian weezing doesn't have a logical reason to have the hats but he is great so I don't really care

Holy shit the bottom ones look terrible. Why do people defend these garbage designs?

they literally have whiskers cmon bruh

Smoke stacks you tard

Pokemon are and always have been JRPG monsters, like Dragon Quest. Not just animals.

>alolan golem is magnetic from living near a power plant, the facial hair is fine iron scraps that attach to their face magnetically
Nah, it's shit. Beard looks retarded and the thing on its back prevents it from rolling (which was Golem's very concept)

>alolan dugtrio has locks based on pele's hair
And it just looks like a cheap blond wig. There would have been much better way to do the Pele's hair thing

Dude weed.

Pokemon I'd like to bone part 1

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Since when is pokemon 420-friendly?

ah yes ignoring them running around with spoons

no shit they're smokestacks but there isn't an explanation for why they have them in the first place like a.golem and a.dugtrio

The top ones are monsters
The bottom ones are monsters disguised as humans

>throw on a mustache or wig
>cool
Based retard. This is probably your favorite piece of art.

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what is the left-most one even supposed to be?

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>no shit they're smokestacks
lawl you didnt notice that before you read their reply huh?
you are making mistakes, brah

A muslim

Jynx and Mr.Mime are cool, what's the problem with humanoid pokemon

normal golem has a head and arms that he can tuck in to roll, but suddenly it's a stretch to consider that alolan golem can tuck in the cannon? fuck off
and yeah it looks like a blonde wig, the reason they have them is explained via pele's hair but they're designed to look like surfer's hairstyles

>are we just going to act like

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Haven’t Pokemon always been sentient though? They can understand human speech and stuff. So in a way, all Pokemon have human attributes.

Who cares about Pokemon creatures?
lets talk about cool pails of water instead

it's impossible to not notice my dude, I like the design but the reason that they grew smokestacks in the first place hasn't been explained like the other 2 regional variants in the OP, and that's all I'm pointing out

>Who cares
OH MY GOD! THE MADMAN WROTE IT!
pack it up, boys. someone asked "who cares"?
you know this user is enlightened

Fuck yeah, water.

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Not sure what the scruff is supposed to be but I shit you not he has a railgun on his back.

>it's impossible
nothing is impossible

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I want Bong Wheezing!

Weezing is amazing though

youre only pointing out how lonely you are today and that youre mad that you feel loneliness

What games have good water?

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Top middle is literally based on a kid's toy even if the base of the toy is an animal. At least middle bottom has some excuse.

But yokai watch designs are unironically better than pokemon. If only its battle system wasn't ass

Did you stop at got mad or did it just go straight over your head?

*woosh*
you must be fun to text message /s

>filename
Kek

>projecting this hard

It's so crummy.

you only understand it because you are lonely.

>add facial hair/wigs to existing Pokemon
>call it a new design

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nigger, buy something stylish to hold your water. your only showing off how lazy you are. probably spends too much time playing games/netflix and never goes out and buys things they need. so they have to rush a jug of water like a ADD ridden retard.

Obnoxious autistic faggots like OP used to be run off from posting here. The bottom designs are funny, and this is a children’s game you retarded cunt.

>and this is a children’s game you retarded cunt.

Exactly
Kids want cool badass monsters, not le funny British bourgeois dude and le muslim turtle

>no one likes human-like Pokemon
People like the Machop line, generally.

I like Galarian Weezing. It's corny, but the synergy of the tophat/smokestack with the pollution cloud/facial hair just makes it a win for me.

Youre trying too hard, tranny.

kids want to laugh...hahaha wtf you are never around kids are you?

yikes that looks terrible

chad coming through

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are you white knighting a meme? top kek

>Jynx and Mr.Mime were like the two most hated Pokemon back in the days
they were hated because they were ugly, not because they were "human-like." notice how machoke and machamp didn't get the same hate.

Machop line look like lizards

Better than any modern overwatch/leddit design or waifu shit

>overwatch/leddit
obsessed

>Kids want cool badass monsters
Right, so they wouldn't want the top designs either.

That's better than those other two franchises that do the same and call it a new creature entirely.

>Golem is an Arab now
Why hasn't Gamefreak been boycotted by the state of Israel yet?

based

how bad do you smell

Machoke is a bodybuilder from the neck down. Same with Machamp but with two extra arms and only four toes.

what the hell were they thinking with dugtrio
i love it because it's so goddamn stupid but what the hell were they thinking, look at it

this, i'm fond of the rustic, disney-esque 'wooden pail attached to a well' myself

Someone got paid for this redesign

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No, Machop is. The other two even lost the tail.

non-muslim Golem is cool and badass

No, it's shit and even less threathening than its pre-evo.

But i like Lord Huffington

And this person is James Turner

Yeah but it loses the file name

>human attributes on monsters
...have been a thing in fiction forever, and in pokemon since gen 1.
i know you genwunners live in an alternate universe where every pokemon was a generic quadruped dinosaur until furries and james turner ruined everything, but you're just going to have to deal with the fact that pokemon has never catered only to your taste.

then save it with the file name

Hydrate motherfucker.

That the kindest thing anyone ever said about diglett's design

NO
U

i have my hacker settings turned on

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fixed him for gamefreak.

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Are these real? Haven't pokemons since gen 2

Fixed it even better

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no it fucking sucks they're not chimneys anymore! put the chimneys back!!

Imagine sticking your dick into those chimney holes.

are you 7? get a fucking grip on yourself.

always call out reddit prose, i'm personally cataloging their NPC catchphrases.

>cool ambiguous monsters
>a rock, 3 worms, and a gas cloud

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>fixed
>its now a top hat with hole that puff out smoke

Well that's your Havking business
I want my file name

We're also apparently acting like Dugtrio wasn't widely made fun of during the red and blue years too.

Souless, bland, lazy
Soul, quirky, with character, original

Why wouldn't you keep the original timestamped filename? It makes it easier to find things later and makes for pleasant archive viewing after a few years pass. Haha
one day I'll leave for good, right? Any day now.

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That shade of green still looks terrible. I personally think it should be a dark purple.

When they were at least obvious yet unique like HitmonLee and HitmonChan, it was cute. But the issue here is taking what's established, and shitting all over it. I really fucking hate these cunts that change shit to spite others, that's what I see when I see this shit. it's not funny, who is this targeted for as an appealing design?

I want modern socially to fucking move on and stop rehashing shit. Just THINK for once and make something new that actually fits the convention established for a 30 year old franchise.

Just because they offered a shitty explanation, that doesn't suddenly make it look any less retarded. Something can be 'realistic' and still be stupid as fuck.

>90s
>Escapism from the real world because it's boring
>2010s
>Simulated realism because fantasy is boring
Prove me wrong. You can't, zoomers. This is how you think now.

It's so fucking stupid I'm back around to liking it. The others are just plain old stupid though.

Hitmonchan has always been fucking shit

this is cringe tier and basically screams how much you want social interaction

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Based and intellectualpilled

holy shit those are real?

Doug dimmadome, owner of the dimmsdale dimmadome?

I sincerely thought that wheezing was a joke

is this real?

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worse,even a western girl designed 3 pokemons.

I wish this happened to me.

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What's worse? Weebs or furries?

>hurr durr get friends nerd

this is a video game board and you fags would rather suck normie cock
zoom zoom

Why do all of the digletts only have one tooth in the same spot?

There is literally nothing wrong with the bottom 3

>t. 29 yr old boomer who's played since the start

>giving a fuck about pokemon
you're fucking sad guys

I honestly don't understand the hate on wheezing, I think it's a cool design for once.
They ruined zigzagoon and linoone though

Based and necessary

Shit taste? Hating Obstagoon is fine but you literally shouldn't be a presence in this existence if you dislike the other two.

The pokemon franchise as a whole as become a joke
I blame James Turner

Yes, user, we've all seen that reddit meme.

That fucking new wheezing looks great
Damn that's pretty genius

>Shitting on A Golem and G Weezing

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>playing pokemon after gen 3
shiggy diggy

kek

Jynx and mr.mime were still ambiguous monsters

Compare it to the blatant humanization of current designs

Please don't say what you don't really mean, user. I know you're not retarded.

You fags have a containment board
Pokeshit designs were always stupid
Squirtles evolution abandons squirrel turtle design for two fucking cannons
Keep this gay shit outta here furfags

>29 yr old boomer
you're not a fucking boomer

Don't tell me what I can be with my life

>>>>>>>>>>>ambiguous

Humans are the real monsters

Hi plebddit

absolutely based and true

Can anyone honestly say they unironically like Alolan Dugtrio?
That hair looks fucking ridiculous.

I want to feed the bug!

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The anime made them fun

I'll never forgive Game Freak for not include the betamons, also, they really went downhill since gen 3.

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You only like them becuse they're not in

cringe and redpilled

Hitmonlee preevolution and the furry ball are teh greatest lost.

They went with making the prevo of hitmonchan,lee and top the same thing.

Also the evolution of Hitomontop is awesome.

Pichu was worse, and the mid-evo of chicorita was bad too.

This is the dynamax form

is that its mouth or its nose?

Furfrou is unironically my favorite because of the different hair styles, and I guarantee it won't be in s/s because that would be too much work for a mediocre pokemon.

You didn't prove him wrong and dodged the question with a baseless assumption

>graveler

patrician's choice.

i dont want people to see my powerlevel even on Yea Forums

I want to hug_ the chub!

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They look fine I don't see why you fagots are complaining

Do Americans really call chimneys "smoke stacks"?

Based

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only the industrial ones, ones on houses are still called chimneys over here

smoke stacks - for choo choo trains and factories
chimneys - for houses

Kreenj

?

Cringe phonetically

Lets be honest here

Adding 140 new pokemon every game was the sort of stupid idea only a Jap could have, and only a stupid Jap could keep doing it even when its killing the franchise because 'ma culture'.

They had 140 really great designs, and could have done 30 new pokemon or less every game. Hell, generation 2 added more good pokemon than bad unlike 3 which went full shitshow, if they had only done 30 at a time they could have spread gen 2 out for a lot of games.

but he's got a new hat

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They are not happy making shitty designs, they also have to take the older ones and shit all over them

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cant wait for mr mime with a gun

Please kill yourself, thanks.

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Nobody liked Jinx and Mr Mime because they had no evolutions and were completlyed outclassed by the Abra line and Alakazam was cool in the anime while Mr Mime and Jinx were jokes.

7" yeah

The thing on the left is overdesigned shit. The thing in the middle is underdesigned shit. The thing on the right is shit because of the top hat, not because of human attributes. If they wanted a smokestack, build it into its head instead of making it look like the locals build every Wheezing two giant hollowed out hats to wear. Also don't make the smoke on top white and the smoke below green. Why would you do that?

>they're resorting to making shitty variants of previous pokemon designs instead of making new ones

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Yeah I remember even as a kid I would laugh at how retarded Jynx looked.

>filename
you made me remember this video
youtube.com/watch?v=ts5af0aFcuw

jinx was okay because of lovely kiss + high speed giving you a free sleep and also stab blizzard

Nobody liked Jinx and Mr Mime because they looked like weird humans, when people wanted to train cool monsters

The Weezing design is pretty neat. It would have made a cool pokemon on it's own, but GF hates the poison type.

Retard

jynx and mr mime look black and french, not like humans

>tophat weezing existed before top hats were actual clothing
>human attributes

Can't wait till they come up with pokefusions, so we can have a modern frenchman pokemon

Here's your Galar Arbok

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The irony.

Looks cute. Oh no, I'm I going to jail?

Bottom looks better
I was born in '93 by the way

>I was born in '93 by the way

Sure thing, zoomlord

t. dehydrated retard

This, especially with the whole galar region/no national Dex issue, it shows that they realized that having to animate all their unpopular trash Pokemon is too much(atleast if you are a lazy shit dev like gamefreak)

Remember when the Pokemon movie came out, and everyone was excited about just seeing a fucking Donphan?
That's the proof that making tons of Pokemon was the bad design decision, and should have just prioritized GOOD design

Things run out of ideas after 2 decades, who'd have thunk. It's like this doesnt happen to literally every single long running franchise ever

Pro tip: move on and stop being endlessly miserable about shit you cant do anything about. Find new things to enjoy

To be honest it isnt hard to come up with 100 good designs every 6 years, especially for the richest video game franchise in the world.

The main issue is that GF crew has shit taste and unironically consider gross objectmon or mustaches slapped on a regular older pokemon as good designs.

>not being your first choice

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isnt there a pokemon that is a literal pile of garbage? that sounds about right

>implying

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don't you bring trubbish and his family into this he is a saint

>human attributes
Animals don't have mustaches?

>modern frenchman pokemon
it already exists, shiny greninja is a black frog

I 100% agree user, I feel like there are objectively good designs that even people who don't like Pokemon can appreciate, but so much design control is given to people who want to make complete throwaway deviantart tier Pokemon like klefki or palossand

Smoke stacks are for factories and steam/coal powered trains.
Chimneys are for houses and Santa.

Embarrassing user
Here you go, cupcake

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It's this dude's fault

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>420 kilobytes

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That's the joke retard

hats are a bit short but whatever

so he went to the beach one day and just went to town huh

I like this dude's style.

nu-golem looks ok, the other two are fucking awful

Holy shit, I didn't even think it was real.

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howd they get away with it

>sees object
>gives it eyes and maybe a mouth

the only designs i think are that big of a loss are the evolutions (especially farfetch'd why the fuck did they dump it), the original fire starter line, and the chain shark.

most of the other stuff is decent but nothing mind-blowing and a lot of what we got was better, especially the legendary beasts. what the fuck were the original designs

Really? Fuck.

Only the sword is cool.

that's the new genwunner buzzword. they like to pretend that KANTOOOO pokemon weren't blatantly based on specific animals/objects just like all the other regions' pokemon.

it's just a bait image that's been circulating on /vp/ for a few months now

ohhh

Is this... Real?

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Yes

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This makes me very angry.

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Neither.

Dugtrio with a wig is fine because it's obviously comedic in nature and is funny
The rest of them suck because they're not even joke designs, they're just bad

you're telling me that alola golem wasn't cool?

fuck off

The fuck is up with ABBA dugtrio?

no one's called it out yet but the only one he's actually done in the image are the ice creams

yes, people go on the internet and tell lies

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>zoomer going ZOOMIES

Same
Fucking Americans ruining japanese RPGs

he's british, lad

>not woggles my goggles
>not dingles my mingles
Fuck you and anyone that thinks that some watercolor pictures means that reverse pokeball and glued together moles haven’t always been a laughing stock. The designs were always hit and miss, its the art direction that fell dramatically.

>filename
superb

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Really looks like Hartman’s stuff

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Same shit

Based

I love Aegislash and its whole line. Pokémon can be simple or silly, what sucks is when they’re boring and have no story to them.

>Human attributes

Nigga Golem is a rail gun

>complaining about quality of modern designs when there are good designs and stinkers in every generation and always has been this way

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>People still believe this shit post

Fuck off

A set of keys...

No, it's a turtle with a beard and also a railgun on its back

It's real, just type "James Turner pokemon" in Google Image

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>rock monster
>Alolan rock monster that evolved alongside the magnetic rocks in the area, the "hair" being tiny magnet fibers
>mole? monster
>Same mole monster but with pele's hair that resembles actual hair, with is a super hard steel like fiber found near hawaiian volcanoes
>Polution monster
>Same pollution monster, but this one taking in pollutants and making it into purified air, the smoke stacks high up so they dont get reabsorbed into its body
The alolan and galarian forms are basically making old shitty pokemon better

>the bait that gets reposted a lot shows up in google images a lot that means its true

The only pokemon in that image turner made are the ice cream line and it took three seconds of actual research to find that out

>no one likes human-like Pokemon
You =/= everyone, and why do you faggots always try to redefine what the word "MONSTER" means? MONSTERS can be anything. Frankenstein's MONSTER was a man made of corpse pieces and revived by electricity. The Loch Ness MONSTER is a plesiosaur-like beast. Then there's the many types of giant MONSTERS in the Godzilla series that range from artificial golem Shisa to space cyborg dinosaur to colony of anti-life crustaceans to crystalline Godzilla/rose/human to skeleton-powered robot dragon to literally my mom's giant preying mantis to living flying pile of sewage to a greedy octopus man.

What happened to golem? What is he supposed to be?

I wasn't aware humans had railguns sticking out their backs.

I've heard that screeching bitchbaby whine with ever Pokemno game for the last twenty years.

>a phrase people have been using for decades
>retards on Yea Forums think everything was invented by their sworn enemy site

>I don't care what the explanations are they trigger me and I must rage! do not question me or say I'm wrong!

And you wish you got paid the amount of money he does because he has a job, unlike you.

Imagine being so upset about monster designs in a game made for CHILDREN that you complain about it to other adults on an Iranian IED making forum.

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It's a railgun, which he uses to fire rocks with. sometimes he accidentally grabs a Geodude and stuffs it in there to fire at nearly Mach 1 at opponents.

hey
that's pretty good

I'm pretty disappointed the Tangela evo was never used. The giant grin obscured by darkness and vines is one of my favorite designs.

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That's only for posting. The idea is to make it slightly harder to track you via the archives. You can still search by image MD5, of course, but it helps just a tiny bit.

Dude, you gotta lighten up.

>Pinsir evolution turned it into a stag beetle/rhinoceros beetle hybrid with the center horn being in the way of the pincer horns
I'm glad they decided to make Heracross instead.

im not gonna stand here and let the creator of golurk get dished out by shitposters

bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/James_Turner

didnt pokemon and humans evolve from the same organism
if anything
woggle this nigga
they reverting slowly back to human shit

>The real Pocket Monster is man
My God...

It's a visual metaphor to peles hair you dolt

>underage don't know factory Chimneys

Did anybody in this thread read the pokedex for new wheezing? The smoke stacks are for purified air to get the fuck away from them, and the stuff that looks like beard is just shitty air theyre taking in. Its saving our planet

>muh trash and ice cream boogeyman
Those designs are fine

>(Slowking) is constantly coming up with new ideas that would change the world, but as soon as it hits upon a new idea, it forgets it.
This is brilliant. He's so fucking smart he rolls right back around to being retarded.

>Factory chimneys are shown in school
>only autists who have nothing better to do than cry about pokemon dont know

just because it's based on a real construction doesn't mean it's well designed

>Yea Forums
>reading

i actually once brought a 4L to class and got stared at weirdly
but guess who was hydrated

Just because you dont like it doesnt mean its a bad design

>human with a torso made of rocks
>3 penises
>living farts
>"cool" "ambiguous" "monsters"
yeah okay

meanwhile in sword/shield...

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Can someone explain to me why I should be so very angry about this? Objectmon were a thing in all four generations before he showed up. Also Pocket MONSTERS can be whatever the creator wants them to be.

>waaah i hate it therefore it's bad!
I grew out of this mentality when I was 12.

because people want to be mad at new things. The dude didnt even make any of these besides ice cream

At first I thought it was going to be reddit but then I laughed

I chortled. But that would only do normal damage since Galaran Weezing is Poison/Fairy.

The death of the franchise?
Yes

cringe

>initiate_meme_response21.exe

Doesn't matter if they are inspired by object or real animals, these designs are shit (except Honedge), if you like them you have no taste.
Go back

see

>if you dare disagree with me you are from my sworn enemy website!
Christ, is that all you people are capable of saying?

literally me

This is a common thing in the military for some reason. But everyone does it. Not exclusive to whites. Had to give it a good thought when I got out.

Fuck society.

>outs himself as a ledditor in his response
You people on the other hand are fucking stupid.

>everything is my enemy!
Pathetic sack of shit.

yikes

Obstagoon?
[/spoiler]More like ObstaZOOM

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I don't get it. Are just randomly throwing this meme at everything?

The new golem is whatever. dugtrio and weezing are fucking hilarious though, how could you dislike them?

The only ones he made there are the ice creams, and while I'm not a big fan, he also made Golurk and fucking BUZZWOLE(the best mon in gen 7 by far).

>dugtrio and weezing are fucking hilarious though, how could you dislike them?

Cause it's a RPG universe and not a Simpsons episode?
You can stuff your "hilarous" jokes designs up your ass

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>My suspension of disbelief in a game about monsters being caught in balls should not be broken! I must not feel like a baby when playing these games! I am a mature adult!

Every time I entertain the idea of getting one of these games I remember that all I ever cared about was the post-game online battles with my team built over the last few gens. Why did they have to do me like this?

>Poison/Fairy
Why is Weezing a fairy?

We wuzing fairies n shieet

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I think it has something to do with the fact this particular Weezing absorbs polluted air and spouts clean air from its hats while keeping all the pollutants inside it's body

That's not a jug.

made for facefucking.

Well yeah. Acid attacks ARE normal there now!

braindead shiteater

Upvote!

Galaran Weezing sucks in polluted air through its mouth, purifies it, and exhales it from the smokestack.

testing. What's up my fellow ratstar?

>has a steel smokestack
>isn't Steel-type
>is instead Fairy-type for some reason
For what purpose, Gamefreak? I wanted a Poison/Steel with Levitate. Fucking wasted potential.

>Whack-a-Mole
>Ambiguous

user stop being retarded

Fairies can be mischievous or helpful, and it's of the helpful type. Also restoring nature and all that pixie stuff.

its a turbo reddit ohrade my dude

the hell is an "ohrade"?

Godamnit Mung, he's Fucking Gene Simmons fursona, he should be ObstaBOOMER you rachitic old fuck!

No, it's a normal conversational phrase, but your own post reeks of condescending reddit autism, ""my dude""

The lack of self awareness of this image is astounding.

>The lack of self awareness of this image is astounding.

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cringe and soi

Had a guy in one of my university art classes who must have been a body builder because he absolutely TOWERED over me, and came to class sometimes with a 1-gallon coleman jug that he would drink from in the middle of class.

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>cringe and soi

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when they going to make a pokemon game with every single region?

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*tip my bong*

Does anyone else view people who use the lowercase i instead of the proper I when singular as inferior? You should start, it's the easiest rule in the language and we've let retards ruin it enough.

they're esper pokemon
they bend spoons with the POWER OF THEIR MIND

As someone that never bothered with pokemon when it came out because it was for kids, I have to say that the designs look similar to me. Don't really see the difference.

seething

Did everyone forget that hitmonchan was a thing

>Drinking a Gallon of water is a white thing now
Really not cut out for College, that's for sure.

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Yes, all pokemon based on mad-made things are stupid, what's your point?

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interesting answer from a handful of retard who have dismissed all facts with that exact same answer for months now.

I liked both but they were hard to obtain and didn't really pay off using

Machoke

of course it's a white thing, they don't have water in africa :^)

Fixed him cause Gamefreak is incompetent

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