>Marth is the original lord >Ike is the most popular lord >Robin and Lucina are from the game that revitalized the franchise >Nobody has a problem with the FE representation pre DLC in Smash 4 >Roy comes back but people like him and he's from THE GOOD SMASH GAME so people let it pass >not only is Corrin one of the worst lords but is also the single straw that broke the camel's back to the point it poisoned the entire Smash community's reception to FE chars and made it impossible for Byleth, an actually good lord from the best FE game in decades, to get their rightful place in Smash
fuck Corrin and fuck Fates. 3H is everything that game should have been
Bro, enough Fire Emblem they have other series that need even one character.
Ethan Cooper
Awakening and Birthright are the best FE games.
Alexander Gray
Robin and Lucina were both the straws that broke the camel's back, and having 2 of the 7 DLC characters be FE reps was just another spit to the face they could cut all but 3 characters and barely lose anything gameplaywise because 4 of the FE reps are basically the same characters with different effective ranges
David Roberts
Ike is not the most popular lord.
John Sullivan
fates had a pretty weak story imo
Christopher Sullivan
*Lucina and Corrin
Robin is the best and most original FE character dum dum
Corrin is much, much more unique and has a more interesting moveset than Byleth could ever have. Cope
Benjamin Peterson
the only good opinion ITT
Hunter Phillips
doesn't matter if he's unique, he's still yet another rep from the same underperforming franchise that gets a ton of charity slots
Chase Nguyen
Why should i care? There are over 80 characters in the game. Why does it matter?
Nicholas Torres
because one of Nintendo's weakest franchises has almost as many reps as their two strongest this weak franchise also has more reps than lots of other way more popular ones its complete bullshit
I has my mario, my ridley and kirby. Why does it fucking matter?
Dylan Martin
Reddit spacing, opinion discarded.
Landon Lewis
>Underperforming So Captain Falcon, Ness, Lucas, Ice Climbers, ROB, and Bayonetta should all be cut then.
Landon Brown
because I want my midna, adeleine, and dixie instead of lucina, roy, chrom, and corn
Jordan Cooper
>franchise that has new main characters every game >franchise that uses the same central cast of character repeatedly >durr why fir embul have mor charaders
no but FE representation should be cut to match its shitty sales
Easton Stewart
Whatever helps you cry at night
I wanted everyone back. And outside of dixie. Obscure choices.
Jordan Powell
Zelda has some new main characters in every game but you don't see them adding Fi, Midna, or Tetra
Blake Ortiz
Sakurai would have pandered to my ricidulous tastes and given me the EXACT characters I wanted if only those he didn't add those characters I didn't like instead >what do you mean he wouldn't have added those characters anyway? shut up shut up shut up my literally whos were gonna be shoo ins
I will never understand this mentality
Ian Allen
honestly I just threw out 3 characters I'd like to see but anything is better than yet another FE swordnigger at this point
Brandon Sanders
>trying to equate supporting main characters to ACTUAL main characters like Marth or Link
nice try
Andrew Powell
And none of them really matter. Zelda needed only 3 reps. Ganondoef. Link and zelda. Rest are fluf.
Landon Moore
>Roy comes back but people like him and he's from THE GOOD SMASH GAME so people let it pass No. Fuck Roy, and fuck Binding Blade.
Lincoln Reed
and FE only needs Lyn, Marth, Ike, and Hector, rest are fluff but they're still all in for whatever reason
Elijah Carter
>let's not decide new characters based on popularity, legacy, etc. but arbitrarily on "muh main" characters >okay so can get more xenoblade, pikmin, etc. characters? >NO THOSE DON'T COUNT, FE ONLY >also please add anna, black knight, hector, and edelguard.
Isaac Morgan
Lyn. Hector. Hahahhahahhahaha.
We have echos and returning characters. Corrin was promitional. FE matches what it needed.
Josiah White
Lucina was planned costume Corrin is from the best selling FE game
Zachary Cooper
they're all more characterized and important than Zelda or even Link in all of their games Link's only characterization is the odd grunt/yell or surprised face
Caleb Davis
>Lyn AND Hector FE7 is not as important as you think it is.
Nathan Richardson
>Lyn, Hector Fuck off 7baby
Aiden Flores
Nobody gives a fuck about Lyn anymore, and axeniggers moved on from Hector to Edelgard because they've given up hope that Sakurai would add anything not from NuFE
Justin Campbell
>Lyn Fuck right off, Lyndis is shit but refuses to die because she's babby's first FE waifu.
Camden Ward
>Corrin was promotional exactly, he was a charity pick to advertise a failing franchise that needed a bump
Jeremiah Martin
>but muh main characters(even though i requested edelgard and other non protagonist fe characters >muh advertising even though it never happens for literally anyone else >muh echoes even though Alph is still a costume >muh non-clones even though it's seen as the absolute bare minimum for anyone else
Liam Green
Spike Spiegel
Robert Thompson
>Zelda doesn't need any game specific characters, they're all just fluff >NONONONO YOU SEE THIS IS WHY FE AWAKENING *NEEDS* 3 CHARACTERS
Adam Lee
>FIRE EMBLEM IS ENTITLED TO AT LEAST 20 CHARACTERS PER GAME, YOU'RE A SHITTY FE HATER IF YOU DONT THINK SO >btw ridley, banjo, and K.rool would literally ruin the entire game if they were added.
Joseph Gomez
F-Zero has been included in Smash 64 and it can't even get a simple fucking echo fighter. Fuck off FEfag, you got chrom.
Charles Myers
And ultimate said "EVERYONE IS HERE!"
So. That is it. I like corrin
Blake Myers
cut Ganondorf for Ganon cut Corrin for Byleth y/n?
>still no spear or axe rep this is why FE in smash is a fucking joke
Camden Nelson
Robin is unique. Lucina and chrom are echo fighters. Clones glorified costumes. Try harder.
Benjamin Green
People wanted Chrom back in Smash 4 days because at the time the expectation was that Ike would get dropped in favor of whoever the new Lord was (Along with the Gemastu leak). The only reason why Chrom is in was because how much people were nagging for him, especially after the Robin trailer. Chrom is hot garbage and shouldn't have been added, but the reasoning for why Sakurai added him is still there
Daniel Flores
Marth Palla Mount + Dismount mechanics Sigurd/Seliph Hector L'Arachel Ike Mage Robin Corrin/Tiki
Here's an FE loadout no one can complain about.
Justin White
3H isn't even a Fire Emblem game though. It's just Persona lite with a fire emblem skin on.
Jayden Flores
Cut Corrin(biggest symbol of bias and unfair treatment in smash) Roy, Lucina, and Ike. Don't add a new FE character until Smash 7.
Don't cut anything from Zelda, give us ONE newcomer please, haven't had a real one in almost 20 years.
At the very least, Robin was the best addition since Marth for not being another sword rep. A knight, mercenary, or anything else would've been cool.
David Jenkins
No cuts. Next game is not worth it. Losers crying so hard.
Cooper Reyes
he shouldn't have been added to 4 in the first place he's the odd one out as far as 4's DLC goes Roy, Lucas, and Mewtwo were all previous fighters that should have been added in the first place Ryu is fucking Ryu Cloud is Cloud Bayonetta was highly requested by the community Corrin was a glorified commercial that Nintendo added because they wanted to bolster future sales
I can complain about it, there's 5 too many characters for how successful FE has been
Michael Davis
If you want you stave/healer rep, she's the best one from an attack and personality standpoint.
Nicholas Ramirez
>all have down b counters
great job now you can't even use the "muh echoes" excuse and 99% of the people playing the games are still going to scratch their heads when they see them.
Elijah Hall
I really wish they would. Fi is fun as fuck in Hyrule Warriors and a total qt.
Benjamin Clark
Reminder that wielding an axe or lance doesn't warrant a slot.
Thomas Nguyen
And? He was a commerical. He is here now. Get over it. Smash4 added him as the last dlc. His spot was added in. It was get corrin or no one.
No replacements
Justin Anderson
According to FE fans just barely existing means they're entitled to be treated like they're as popular as Pokemon.
William Rivera
>add Ganon, add Ganon why did you ask for the same thing?
Luis Hernandez
>it was Corrin or no one that's quite an assumption, user
Mason Gray
>complaining about Corrin being a shill addition while wanting Roy back
Hunter Gomez
>It was get corrin or no one.
[citation needed]
And that would've been preferable anyway.
Grayson Morris
When almost a tenth of your reps in Smash are Fire Emblem characters that barely change at all for the most part you're right I've got a problem. I don't want a SINGLE other FE character and honestly I hope most of them don't come back.
Christopher Kelly
Problem you have is thinking nintendo gives a fuck about hw. Game is awesome. Love playing midna. But nintendo dont care about spin offs.
Nicholas Fisher
>Don't cut anything from Zelda, in terms of a reboot, all the garbage needs to go. which means Ganon will replace Ganondorf.
Xavier Nguyen
never said I wanted Roy back, but he was a fairly obvious addition
Aiden Lewis
Since the past three games Zelda's been given the absolute least amount of content possible I think it's fair for it to keep everybody.
Ayden Allen
Lucina and Robin are also bad characters
Angel Flores
They datamined the game. Corrin was tye extra slot added in later then the rest of the dlc. He was a commerical specifically requested by nintendo. They did not add the the new slot for more money. We see how nintendo treats dlc. Corrin was a calculates move to sell fe.
More characters the better. I like female corrin.
Oliver Thompson
>>Nobody has a problem with the FE representation pre DLC in Smash 4 You’re sorely mistaken.
Luke Parker
-Xenoblade X and Fates were both releasing in the west December -Sakurai said the DLC is gonna be a character from a soon-releasing game
Adrian Brooks
Ganon and Ganondorf are different entities in the Zelda games
Jaxson Torres
>this character has an axe/spear, it would play totally unique! why do you fags expect us to believe this shit
Aiden Fisher
Caeda for Smash plz plzzzz
Jaxon Rivera
I don't see every new Link and Zelda getting in every game
Nathaniel Taylor
And which series did nintendo care more about? It is an obvious answer.
Ryan Reed
>If you're over 25 you HAVE to play this game!
Leo Watson
That's pretty good. But only if it's young Tiki and they don't get rid of the adult Tiki assist.
Grayson Brooks
>They datamined the game. Corrin was tye extra slot added in later then the rest of the dlc. He was a commerical specifically requested by nintendo. They did not add the the new slot for more money. We see how nintendo treats dlc. Corrin was a calculates move to sell fe.
[CITATION NEEDED]
Also it didn't even work so I'm not sure what the justification is.
>B-B-B-B-BUT FATES WAS THE BEST SELLING
Barely more than Awakening WITH 2 versions AND smash advertising.
>More characters the better
Nope. If you believed that you'd be playing MUGEN.
Isaac Ross
I disagree the Links are a bunch of bloat and i wouldn't mind if Ganon, Tingle, and Midna replace the last minute garbage we have now
Matthew Gonzalez
>Nobody has a problem with the FE representation pre DLC in Smash 4 What the fuck are you talking about. "More swords" was a thing before the FE specific hate. If they wanted to use FE so much then they should have included more classes instead of more lords specifically. All of the FE characters are boring with gimmicks that would work better for other series but since FE characters are blank canvases they don't have to worry about the character's aesthetics in making the majority of attacks.
Logan Ward
It's just an excuse to ask for more FE characters while attempting to not look like the selfish assholes that FE fans are.
Brayden Foster
I'd rather they'd not spend time and money on Corrin and 4 and had just put that into 5 instead
Xavier Martinez
>Roy is ok >I like that a clone was dlc that we had to pay for
>Every popularly requested characters fanbase is seen as entitled, even if that series has little or no characters at all >FE fanbase complains, even though they have SEVEN characters, because they don't have their extremely specific favorite, and don't get any shit for it.
Corrin was a dumb addition, but at least his kit has some interesting aspects, plus he does provide the Manakete representation FE lacks (sort of). Lucina, Chrom, and Roy are severe overkill though. Two of them are clones on the same tier as Dark Pit/Samus, and Roy is from the worst GBA game. At least give us some Axe or Lance representation. But no, Roy was an original character so he stays. At least Ike and Robin are special even if they're unloved.
Connor Smith
I don't get why so many people hate Corn when there's 4 Marths now. Like, at least they're not a fucking Marth clone.
Stop being fucking retarded, you're getting the new FE in Smash Ultimate, they just didn't announce it yet because that's how they do.
Charles Lewis
Google it. And that is not hiw advertising works. No palm reading, pre cog bullshit. You make a commerical to try and push more units. That is all the justification one needs. Working or not is the after effect dumbass.
Logan Wood
>Nintendo more like Sakurai's team of beggars
Christian Davis
Ganon has been in more games than the "former" self kick out the sandnigger already
Ayden Ortiz
Because when you're not a FE character, NOT being a clone is seen as the bare minimum and not some amazing thing that only they can do. Whatever character would've been added instead of Corrin would have some sort of justification other than not being a marth clone.
Henry Lopez
because people that don't like FE are fucking tired of seeing it gets tons of reps when other franchises that are objectively more successful are starved new reps
Benjamin Perry
i blame Bandana Dee fags
Ayden Kelly
Xenoblade is nintendos side bitch. Xbcx is a wii u exclusive. FE is nintendos rpg bread and butter.
Chase Morales
Why wouldn't I complain if I don't like half the FE characters implemented? I'd rather them just not be in the game at all and Smash have less characters, if we're simply going to get Roy, Corrin, and three Awakening characters.
Sebastian Wright
Yes you do retard.
William Sanders
Awakening and Fates were worse in that regard
Brandon Davis
So Fire Emblem to be constantly coddled just to have 10% of the sales of the other series that have a bunch of Smash reps.
Totally a series that deserves the same number of characters as Pokemon.
Noah Ramirez
That didn't really explain anything.
Noah Jackson
Sigurd has a better chance than GBA shit since its more likely they'll remake Judgral before the next Smash
Daniel Gomez
How?
>Corrin good because not marth clone >Other characters also wouldn't be a marth clone >I DON'T UNDERSTAND
Eli Perez
I'm not saying they're good. I'm saying they're better than Lucina, Chrom, and Roy, yet nobody complains even half as much about them.
Liam Bell
Hahhaha. Thinking pokemon needs fucking commericals now. They could sell pikachu shit now, without ads.
And what part of no cuts did you miss. Even if we look at 4. People wanted roy back bad. And corrin is and ad. That is what happens.
Also. Series counts are bullshit.
Benjamin Gutierrez
-Splatoon was also the WiiU -Sakurai even had to apologize for not adding Rex i don't understand what are you trying to claim here.
Ryan Watson
>Why wouldn't I complain if I don't like half the FE characters implemented?
Because when the developers have bent over backwards for your series for almost 20 years now, complaining about not having the fifth boss from a super famicom game is entitled as fuck.
Adam Brown
>Ike constantly wins the most popular lord title >This post
"character requests only matter if they're from FE"
>. And corrin is and ad. That is what happens.
Literally no other series gets ads. Any retard thinking for more than 3 seconds would realize you only get even half the shit you do is because Sakurai is a huge fanboy of FE.
Alexander Peterson
>have a birthday party for your son, and his cousins/your nieces and nephews are invited >birthday boy son obviously gets the most and best gifts >most of the cousins get so-so gift bags, but they thank their uncle for them, and have fun with their contents >but in comes that one spoiled brat cousin >he has to have a bigger gift bag than his other siblings since he'll throw an almighty shitfit otherwise >despite getting the most unique toys out of anyone except the son, he still shits and moans because he also got more duplicate toys and didn't get exactly something he didn't even start asking for until after the fact That's Fire Emblem Smashfags.
Blake Thompson
Rex was to late. He is a switch character. Splatoon was on fire. And not dlc given the mechanics at play for the character kit.
Corrin was easy to make. Nothing complicated and an ad for an upcoming game.
Splatoon was out already.
Samuel Phillips
Honestly not really, most of Corrins moves are just generic ass sword slash attacks and a Down B counter. The only unique moves worth noting are the projectile + chomp and Pin.
If Sakurai were to put Byleth in and focus on the whip aspect of the creators sword it might not be as visually interesting, but it would be far more unique as it's literally just a whip.
Adrian Parker
Everything with have adverts. Pokemon does not need it though. Bitch, why yoy think mewtwo came back also? Retard nit realizing how business works. Why was roy in melee? It is not a new fucking concept in smash.
Dylan Clark
I'll make it as simple as possible for you
metroid sell 17 million copies. have 4 reps. splatoon sell 12 million copies. have 1 rep. kirby sell 38 million copies. have 3 reps. donkey kong sell 75.6 million copies. have 3 reps. pokemon sell 301 million copies. have 10 reps. mario sell 627 million copies. have lot reps
on other rock, fire emblem sell 16 million copies over big heap amount of games. fire emblem have 7 reps.
fire emblem sell worse than metroid, donkey kong, and kirby but have more rep. people no like when puny franchise get more character than stronger franchise.
Brandon Jenkins
>Marth >Roy >Hector >Ephraim >Mage
This is what they should have done
Isaiah Peterson
-if Sakurai had the time, Rex would alteady be in Ultimate regardless -Elma is more easier to do than Corrin and XBX was in need of marketing more so than an already successful FE game. -you trashed XCX because it was on WiiU, so i brought up Splatoon as a counterpoint. youre really losing it here.
Andrew White
Too much gba. Not enough GameCube.
Eli Price
SR sold like garbage and 3H is going to shitstomp what ever the fuck DK and Kirby sold by the next FY
Fates even outsold every modern Kirby game, with Star Allies not making past it either.
Isaiah Parker
And he did not. And xcx was already out. Splatoon was already out. What part of ad can you not understand? Are you retarded?
Daniel Reed
I like Byleth in his own game, but really don't think he should be in smash. He's another sword wielder and one move that turns his sword into a temporary whip doesn't make up for that. Theoretically they could do something cool with fist weapons and faith magic, since he specialises in those in his unique class, but there's no chance Sakurai would pull that off. If they add a new rep I'd far prefer it to be one of the new lords, since they all use unrepresented weapons and have the potential for much more unique playstyles. Roy, Chrom, and Corrin need to go, and Lucina needs to just be a Marth Costume.
Tyler Thomas
Byleth does have a spell list/magic using unique class. Fire/Bolganone/Ragnarok could fit as one special move with Combat Arts making up the others.
Lucas Foster
Mother is admittedly overepped but the rest are fine with a single character. FE should be cut down to 1 or 2 reps.
Gabriel Long
no shit 3H is going to outsell a year old mediocre Kirby game and a port of a 5 year old wiiu game in the next 12 months
Levi Morgan
>And he did not. and yet, he's shown interest to do so if he got the chance his main reason is time constraints within the planning. so what makes you he wouldn't add Rex if Ultimate was releasing in Summer 2019? there's already a lot of XB2 and X stuff in the game. >And xcx was already out. so was Fates. Both games were already out in Japan.
> Splatoon was already out. i brought up Splatoon because you were shitting on XCX because it was on the WiiU, not about DLC. idiot
and don't call others retarded if you lack even the simplest grasp on reading comprehension. Especially for somebody defending garbage like Fates
Christian Sanders
>he has to have a bigger gift bag than his other siblings I never asked for seven FE characters. I'd be more than happy if there were less.
Samuel Peterson
2015 vs when corrin came out in 2016. Hmmmmm. The character did not come out to support a game that was a year old. It was there for a game that was brand new.
I think you are retarded. You cannot understand how ads work. Lets try to sell this game that failed a year ago. That is a good idea.
Blake Cook
both Star Allies and TF Switch outsold a lot of recent previous releases. the last best selling modern Kirby before SA was Robobot. TF barely peeped on the Switch
meanwhile, 3H is going to overtake Fates sales like a fucking storm and i wouldnt be surprise it out sells Star Fox 64 or Mario Sunshine.
Its a great FE game.
Christian Parker
Then we should cut every mario character that’s added after Brawl plus Dr Mario too
Sebastian Gutierrez
I mean TF WiiU TF sold better the Switch
Isaac Davis
I always laugh at FE secondaries who think Hector would be in over Eliwood.
Jaxon Bailey
Rosalina, bowser jr were stupid. And dr mario should be an echo. But they are here. No cuts
Jason Carter
>Marth (Lucina as alt skin) >Ike >Hector/Edelgard >Dimitri >Robin (Byleth as alt skin) Fixed your FE reps, nintendo no need to thank me
Jace Peterson
i mean, i would delighted Rosalina and Scrappy Doo got the axe
Doc has too many changes to be an echo even compared to Ken. learn how development works.
Cameron Butler
you forgot Sigurd echoing Dimitri gotta shill that FE4 remake
Mason Cox
Chrom has as many differences compared to Roy as Doc Mario has to Mario.
Dominic Rodriguez
It's gay, son.
Ethan Ward
He does now. He should have been an echo ro begin with when he returned
Michael Scott
compare the changes Doc gotten to every echo and see how retarded your post is. its a fuckload, not minor like every echo gotten.
Hunter Diaz
No he doesn’t, Doc has totally different properties on his physical and special moves as well as weight and speed. Chrom is just Roy with aether and no sour spot.
Anthony James
No, it's core FE with "Persona"-esque elements on the side. Nothing was cut to add the "Persona" shit, you see?
William Stewart
Too many characters, has Corrin, no Lucina as a Marth alt, nobody from 3H. 4/10, at least you didn't cut Marth for Lucina.
Grayson Green
>all these GBA/Tellius babbies trying to act all high and mighty go back to Project M with your backports and GBA bloat
You cant read. When he came back in smash 4 and when he was put in ultimate, they should not have wasted their time making him unique. It was a waste of time. And this was all being diacussed in context if bullshit mario characters.
Jace Fisher
W-what if I don't have a computer?
Easton Phillips
>FE fanbase doesn't get any shit Not only have you failed to have ever seen a Smash thread before, you couldn't even be bothered to read the one we're currently in.
Anthony Barnes
complaints about FE rep bloat is fine but complaining about Mario rep bloat is retarded Mario is the Mickey Mouse of vidya, half of the roster could be Mario reps and it would be entirely deserved
Jackson Price
Fire Emblem has 4 unique characters. It’s really not as big of a problem as some of you make it out to be. The series has a lot of main characters, so it gets a lot of representation in Smash. Also, Awakening has 3 characters for the same reason Oceania of Time got 4 characters in Melee. Both games revolutionized their respective series.
Parker Powell
he was a last minute character and those barely get major changes if it was to degrade him into an echo/ costume, what's the point on doing a disservice to Doc mains?
that is why Sakurai said he didn't want to piss off the old players
Juan Barnes
Using series sales to determine reps is bullshit. Pick characters that matter.
Using sales logic, guess we need fucking birdo now.
Parker Ramirez
Awakening's positive influence on the series is drastically overstated
Jack Walker
It's because most people engage with Smash primarily as a platform to represent their favourite series/characters. Corrin is outright the worst character in the entire FE series, so even fans of the series hate his inclusion because nobody would be sad if he wasn't included, and non-FE fans hate him because he was the point when there truly became too many FE reps, which makes them wrongly assume that if there were less FE characters, there would be more characters in the game from their favourite series.
Austin Morris
>Marth (Lucina skin) >Ike (Chrom skin) >Robin >Anna with a lance/bow based moveset Don’t @me, Jugdral/Elibecucks.
People are hilariously selective about how they decide the sales nonsense.
Luis Baker
Can I have Tiki then?
Hunter Carter
Bowser Jr. is scrappy doo Rosalina is Elsa both can go
Brandon Reed
>taking out Ike to add more irrelevant GBA reps The only reason the west cares about GBA is because they were your first video games. They're very mediocre entries to the series and Japan couldn't care less about the GBA lords.
Parker Miller
Corrin is only hated among American autists that can’t handle any main character showing weakness.
Nathaniel Lee
>Byleth, an actually good lord Haha what the fuck he's the blandest ever.
Jack Rogers
even without considering sales, Mario is the most instantly recognizable character in vidya other than maybe Pikachu
Julian Miller
>use fire to build weapon rank >evolves into Bolganone when you hit the enemy X times >then evolves into Ragnarok Byleth could be cool if they get really creative with him.
Grayson Rivera
Ocarina of Time is the reason why we didn't get Ganon in Smash we got the sandnigger instead at the last minute
thanks for giving another reason why influencing recent games can be bad.
Josiah Jackson
I am a doc player. I am bitter as fuck because i get my ass handed to me all the time when i use him. My main stance is and will be no cuts. If he truly is that different, fine. But in the context of this conversation. About reps. The above poster was arguing about mario not needing more characters because i said zelda only needed 3. Mario only really needed 5.
But all that does not matter. Again no fucking cuts.
Carson Morgan
WHY IS HE SO CHAD?
Nolan Perez
>Corrin >Weakness Did you play Fates? I've never heard of, nor can I imagine, any making a serious criticism of Corrin for showing weakness.
Charles Murphy
>red juden yikes
Jace Miller
Not only did you cut people in favor of keeping Roy of all fucking characters, you want to add Ephraim AND Hector?
Carter Walker
The entirety of Conquest she was questioning her decision which is a sign of weakness.
Jacob Foster
why the fuck not? Archanea deserves more than just Awakening ocs
Juan Diaz
retards like you shouldn't be allowed near the internet.
David Butler
Sales should not determine the max number of characters a series should have. It should be obvious from the series and fans.
Zelda needs at least 3. Link, g man and zelda. Mario needs the main 4. Etc.
Meteoid only need 2. Ridley and samus.
Kayden Turner
>it only has more than the majority if you dont count almost half of the characters
Levi Gutierrez
>Nobody has a problem with the FE representation pre DLC in Smash 4 hmm that's not quite what I remember
Christopher Carter
Then you weren’t paying attention, people complain constantly about how much Corrin cries and how naive he is(nobody minds girl Corrin though)
Dominic Campbell
>Marth >Hardin >Edelgard >Robin >Ike would be my ideal roster
Jose Martin
Fates sold better in the west
Sebastian Hill
>Sales should not determine the max number of characters a series should have. It should be obvious from the series and fans.
That's debatable but it also shouldn't be "you either have to be one of the biggest video game franchises ever or be fire emblem" like it is now.
Michael Perry
Cutfags are mentally ill.
Kayden Morris
this there was still reee sword before Roy got in it just wasn't prelavant as it is now
Hunter Sullivan
t. OoTnigger
Julian Nelson
Most fe is from ads from what i remember. We had marth and the ad roy. Then we had ike to promote the new fe games. Then robin to make a set of 3 and a echo costume upgrade that does not count. Corrin was another ad.
Ultimate has no cuts and another costume upgrade due to fan requests
James Baker
FE has a rotating cast that’s the reason. Has nothing to do with bias.
Isaiah Long
I'd agree with you if there was only 20-30 characters in the game, but with how many there are, the flagstone Nintendo franchises deserve a good chunk of the slots just because FE has a million one off characters and Mario/Zelda only have a handful of recurring characters doesn't mean FE deserves a ton of slots
Joshua Cox
>Deserves There’s that word again.
Jace Lewis
Metroid should at least be Dark Samus and Ridley. Both are major villains, and Dark Samus is more significant in her own games than any game Ridley appears in.
Isaiah Taylor
I'm aware of that, but Mario, Zelda, and even Metroid all have significant characters that only exist in one or two games but you don't see many of them in either way you look at it FE gets special treatment which is why most people complain about it
Ayden Watson
It's not even Corrin. We got three representatives from the same singular FE game. Sure, Corrin is an issue in its own right, but don't not include Lucina and Chrom in all this.
Mason Long
But that also means we do not put in bottom of the barrel characters. Big names. And this is a tough thing whwn arguing about a series which has a new cast every game. But the main character of any fe game has more cred then birdo.
Levi Thomas
Because the FE lords are the main focus of their games who you play as
Oliver Reed
so what should they do, put every character Nintendo has ever made on a dartboard and add the characters that get hit?
Anthony Price
I think ds should not have been an echo
Zachary Wright
Marth Tiki Robin Blyeth
Ethan Baker
It was released in Japan on June 25, 2015, you dipshit. the game was already old by the it released in the west. oldrr than Xenoblade X, which was out on April 2015 in japan.
Isaac Wright
and like I said earlier, Midna, Fi, King of Red Lions (incredibly unrealistic), and Tetra are all main characters of one game but they're not in hell, the games Midna and Fi are in are named after them I'm aware that the lords are the main characters of the game they're in, but that doesn't mean they should all be in. A side character that's in multiple games can be more prominent/important than a main character from one game
Isaiah Barnes
> Dark Samus is more significant in her own games than any game Ridley appears in. she was in 2 Ridley is in every game but anything with a 2 labeled
Thomas Cooper
I don’t like how shitty the stages are
Nathan Taylor
Marth Roy Ike Robin Edelgard
One from each previous generation and a 3houses rep for marketing.
John Lewis
She was the main antagonist of the entire trilogy. Ridley has always just been reoccurring boss. Should have been a fully fleshed out character. I would just get rid of ZSS and keep Ridley and DS.
Nathan Sanders
>le salt XD kill yourself please
Jack Cook
The first form of Castle Siege is ok.
Austin Hill
Really, "I wonder if I made the right choice" comes off as well-written and realised character weakness to you? Especially when stacked up against the innumerable stupid things Corren does in all routes, but is completely rewarded for in both narrative outcome, and the favour of those around them?
Ian Lopez
I am partial to smash 4 zss. Love me a good figure.
Ayden Fisher
What do you mean? I LOVE not knowing about the real villain until I pay an extra 20 dollars!
Kayden Myers
>franchise that has new main characters every game doesn't mean they NEED to add them, tho. if that's the case, then where is Elma?
Lucas Reyes
Being annoying to the audience isn't a weakness of character.
Christian Cooper
If you must have a GBA rep, why Roy?
Blake Diaz
this whole thread is proof that FEfags are the most spoiled brats in smash history
Angel Cooper
nobody wants Birdo but characters like Tingle, Waluigi, Kamek, Sylux, Cranky, Dixie, Tom Nook, etc. might not be important to one individual game as any of the FE MCs but the fact that they've been side/main characters across multiple games makes them arguably more important than the lords the fact that FE Lords don't have staying power and generally only are in one games might even be a reason to not include them, because they turn into a literal who after the hot new game comes out
Camden Gonzalez
Nah, it was Lucina and Chrom. Corrin at least was a bit unique. Make Lucina and Roy Marth outfits (give him Lucina's bit if tipper and hilt offend) and make Chrom an Ike outfit and nobody would bitch anymore.
Leo Powell
>hating fates I bet you're a bitch nigger that couldn't even beat chapter 10, let alone Ryoma's hallway of fun.
They are “main” characters not main characters you know damn well the difference.
Cooper Gray
Echos in general are a stupid concept. Why have something fill a character slot when they're just a carbon copy of another character? It's just a waste. Either give them features to differentiate them and make them unique like Dr Mario, or just make them a skin.
Nolan Williams
They should cut every character and replace them all with FE characters
Henry Phillips
>just run up and kill Ryoma turn 1 You're really going to use this map as a benchmark of difficulty? Also >difficulty=fun F-funny joke, right?
Nathaniel Gomez
they're the characters that get the most dialogue and the characters that develop most in their games you might not play as them but they're basically the main characters because Zelda is always locked up/stolen and Link is a blank canvas except for some sparse reactions
Luis Miller
They're called primary characters you illiterate swine.
Jose Allen
>Even though they’re not playable they’re the main character >Midna is synonymous with the Zelda franchise I swear :(
Blake Moore
she was main antagonist for the FPA games, never mainline times Ridley is the series antagonist and the third pillar of his franchise. He eventually became main antagonist as of SR.
dilate
Grayson Hall
Are you kidding? Awakening was supposed to be the last game in the series. Because of it, Fire Emblem is now a world-wide success.
Carter Allen
>lmao the quality of the game lowering is ok because muh advertisements!
Benjamin Rivera
she's more synonymous with the Zelda franchise than any given lord is with the FE franchise
Matthew Kelly
But in this case it is fun, I had more fun playing CQ and actually having to do critical thinking like accounting for debuffs and effect damage, rather than plop down the prepromote and/or MU depending on the game, and end turn.
Jordan Gonzalez
>I want quantity over quality, it doesnt matter tha 99% of the people buying ultimate had no idea who any of the fe characters were
Ryan Foster
>conflict in Three Houses >in the land of Fodlan there is a power sturggle between forces who want what is best for their country >every side believes they are doing the right thing >the war is painted as morally grey where everyone involved does questionable acts to achieve their goals >a shadowy cult is manipuating things behind the scenes but ultimately doesn't relate to Dimitri and Edelgard's core conflict >Whichever side you choose you will have to face the ramifications of abandoning the other sides
>conflict in Fates >there are these 2 kingdoms in the land of...uhh...uhhhhhh..... >anyway Hoshido is the GOOD kingdom with all of the food and happiness but Nohr is BAD and they do not like the nice Hoshidans and want all the food and happiness for themselves >but it's okay because they're not REALLY fighting each other they're just being tricked by an invisible kingdom full of invisible people that kills you if you ever mention it out loud >your choices are to help Hoshido and kill Nohr or kill Nohr so you can help Hoshido
Fates is an objectively bad game and Corrin is an objectively bad lord
Eli Morris
>MU That was supposed to be MC but I guess it works in some context too.
James Price
Not that guy, but Marth.
Aiden Johnson
Sylux is fucking awful and less important to a Fedration Force protagonist or an Omega Metroid don't ever bring him up in serious terms
Brandon Ortiz
corrin, roy and even robin just had really good timing when it came to their inclusion in smash. For Roy and Corrin's case it was wanting to promote their games. Part of me just believes IS just had it planned all along.
>Sakurai originally wanted Leif because he was the protag of the most recent FE game >persuaded by IS to change him to Roy as to promote upcoming GBA game in japan instead Didn't sakurai end up disliking how Roy was portrayed in the game?
>sakurai said in an interview that Awakening had good timing, if it released about 6 months before he would not have considered them, any time after that and they wouldn't have made it to the project plan
>corrin was just picked to promote fates' upcoming US release (i dont even know fates' reception in japan) because nintendo's 2016 lineup was terrible and this is the best they had
Chase Garcia
only because he got into Smash if Midna got into Smash in Brawl/4 then she'd be more popular than Marth is now if Marth never got into Smash he'd be literally who tier just like every other FE lord that didn't
Colton Sanchez
>Didn't sakurai end up disliking how Roy was portrayed in the game? It would explain why despite other characters eventually becoming more true to their origin, Roy is still shown in Smash to be some hotshot fiesty kid despite him being the most bland MC in the franchise.
Liam Barnes
>subject is regarding how significant or relevant characters are within the context of their own franchises >suddenly change tracks to discussing external popularity
Isaac Hernandez
Ridley never does anything more than steal the metroid in any of the games. Ridley is just fanservice in Samus Returns. At least Dark Samus has an active role in Prime 2 and 3.
Connor Bennett
Echoes are a way to get everyone to shut up about curent day last minute additions and it worked, everyone want one now.
also Peach can't have different graphical effects, attack values, and animations through a costume if you know anything about modding Smash. that is why Richter and Daisy got split up.
Lucas Evans
>Peach can't have different graphical effects, attack values, and animations through a costume if you know anything about modding Smash care to explain?
Jayden Bailey
Marth is only relevant within his own franchise today because he was the original FE smash rep and he's been in every smash game since he was in 2 games that sold under 1m each, and one of those games was only released in Japan the only reason they referenced him in Awakening is because he was already famous from Smash
Other popular series that are already represented in smash need more characters than fucking FE. Sonic should have Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow as an echo, and Eggman. DK should have at least Dixie by now, and there's a lot of other good characters they could add like Cranky or somebody from Returns/TF like Lord Fredrik. Zelda needs more actual characters besides a bucnh of different versions of Link. They still don't have Louie for Pikmin. Ms Pacman isn't in the game whatsoever for some reason. They still don't have Chun Li. Alucard deserves to be in. Instead, we get Chrom, Lucina, Corrin, Robin, all added within the last two games while other series sit dead in the water without the representation they should have, or are being added years after when they should've been added
Evan Robinson
I don't think he means Peach specifically, just that Smash doesn't let you change that kind of data for costumes but I could be wrong
Dylan Ross
>caring about Smash Take a bath, OP.
Levi Martin
You'd be surprised how many SmashFEfags there are who throw bitchfits when the mere idea of FE having its number of reps cut down comes up.
Nathaniel Bennett
>Marth is only relevant within his own franchise today because he was the original FE smash rep and he's been in every smash game since Except, you know, the Archanea trilogy is literally what the franchise founded itself on.
Nolan Stewart
I've played all the gba games and have been working through Awakening, it's fun but I'm really not looking forwards to playing Fates. It looks like dogshite with the only redeeming factor being Camilla. Why they split things into "knights vs weebs" is silly. If a character is added as a skin it would still mean people can play as the character they like. Also we're in 2019, Nintendo's shiny new engine should be able to handle something like that by now, and if not they're in the best place to make it possible.
Aiden Russell
>People don't want a character they enjoy playing removed to appease some autist that thinks Smash is a personal affirmation of their own tastes
IMAGINE THAT
Ayden King
They're having a bitchfit now because the fifth bosses pet from fe5 isn't playable.
Ayden Martinez
*You'd be surprised how many SmashFEfags that support cuts there are who throw bitchfits when the mere idea of FE having its number of reps cut down comes up.
Bentley Miller
>fe fan accusing literally anyone else of thinking smash is just for them
Xavier Scott
Ridley is key to setting up metroids atmosphere and plays key parts in the plot of the games. He is important.
Luke Rodriguez
People can want other FE characters without also wanting seven reps, you realize.
Levi Moore
t. Sakurai's personal dick sucker
Leo Thompson
Ridley is the sole reason the Space Pirates banded up and Samus is a bounty hunter after killing her parents. He also never fucks off and asspulls from death a lot compared go evety Metroid villain. Even survived Dark Samus' phazon bullshit before Samus took care of her for good.
he isn't called the cunning god of death for nothing nor a bigger threat to the Metroids. The asshole wants Samus dead no matter how many times he dies.
that is why he's has the series antagonist role.
Aiden Taylor
There's lots of people who've never played a FE game and main the characters in Smash because their playstyles are fun to them. You want to fuck them over because of some weird autism over who "deserves" to be in Smash.
Ryder Evans
I like how burgers are now begging for FE characters because they never owned a 3DS to play Awakening or Fates.
Isaac Morris
t. smelly cutfag
Charles Perez
I'm against all cuts personally, but if you support cuts in general but not FE cuts you're a fag
Dylan Campbell
No fuck off I don't care about your series, I want more of mine
Eli Edwards
>Cut to match sales
This has never been a factor and I don't know why you falseflaggers keep spitting it out. To look stupid on purpose? That hardly seems useful.
Nolan Sanchez
Roy coming back was a mistake.
Adrian Powell
all the costume data is mostly just the same thing but only the models included. there were methods on choosing a character via the costume slot but only way to do that is to have another PSA moveset existing within the PSA.
PSA= Project Smash Attack, modding term to a moveset editor program.
but yeah, that's how they treat it in every Smash game even old ones. 64 was just a textures change. Melee adopted the model change costume stuff.
Ryan Gray
I don't support cuts, the people who claim to want cuts are just butthurt rosterfags that don't even know what they want in return for said cuts.
Jace Young
Fire Emblem is a boring series but I like the characters in Smash for the most part, so it's easy for me to pretend they're all just Smash original anime swordsmen
Jose Perez
there is nothing wrong with cutting Ganondorf for Ganon. you are salty over the fact you will lose one of the copypaste links next game
Dylan Rivera
They fucked over other series many times , but it's okay when fire emblem does it!
Jordan Gonzalez
Ganoncide bitch. But i would support pig ganon as the "4th" zelda rep.
Brayden Robinson
why cut boot wizard when you can keep him and also add ganon?
Ryder Wright
What’s the meme response to that meme again? Cope? Seethe? Whatever.
Jayden Green
When you get around to playing fates skip revelation, it’s beyond bad.
Ayden Nguyen
after FE17's release, FE will already be close to Wario sales after FE18's release, Fire Emblem will be above even Yoshi after FE20's releases, it will be even above Animal Crossing's sales and soon its going to topple Kirby one one single release after that.
you can't stop the growth of the franchisem my dudes
Anthony Perez
you will Black Shadow cide instead while you play volleyball with Ganon
Jack Smith
and it'll only have taken 20 games and 4 generations of free advertising from smash bros!
Camden Edwards
because Ganondorf has been a low priority inclusion since fucking Melee he's always a secret character like every last minute inclusion up to Tr4sh WiiU
meanwhile during his long absence in the main series, Ganon has been doing a lot of catching up as of since. He's even in several spinoffs and gain back a lot important roles since.
In terms of a reboot, the sandnigger is going to get the boot and soon make way for the TRUE demon king in the Smash roster. there's none of this both bullshit because anti-cutfags have zero idea how game development works and forget why Ultimate did Everyone is here so conveniently.
Luis Nelson
Dark Samus isn't your self-insert, you stupid transsexual. read the damn scan logs
Lincoln Morgan
If they keep not releasing Mario and yoshi games, sure. The rest is pure dillusion.
If FE was even half as prominent as its fans said it was then we'd be passed that point years ago and they wouldn't need to constantly make excuses for it
Leo Harris
You’re right, it became a woman when it possessed a suit of armor. Don’t you have a gender reveal to be at?
Joseph Gomez
It's not about the series you stupid nigger it's about the people who main the character.
Carter Hall
Come up with a actual argument next time pal
Samuel Flores
Wario is just going to get another shitty console Warioware game and fuck off for another generation each time someone ask Sakamoto about Wario, its always >uuuh a nu rarioraru title is on ut ray. sorry rhat's a rariorand? (raughs) its the same shit he treated to Kid Icarus.
Aiden Foster
it fucking lay a pile of phazon to birth Fissure Metroids like a mother would. you are also late for your HRT appointment too.
Christian Ortiz
Imagine that instead of the pokemon we have in smash now it was all pikaclones who bar a couple played extremely similarly. Anyone who complained about this was accused of being salty by people who never played a pokemon game in their life. People who requested pokemon actually wanted by the fans were flooded with shitposting. Wouldn't that be retarded?
They couldve fit him in as DLC if they really wanted to. Dude legitimately deserves a spot.
Elijah Johnson
Literally everyone in the game has someone that uses them, if they added a texture less polygon someone would still use them. That doesnt mean that polygon wouldn't have denied a more more justifiable character their spot.
FE characters are used because they're easy to use.(notice how Robin is the least common one)
Luis Myers
Play FE games that aren't FE7,8,9,13, and parts of 4.
Zachary Long
Roy, Chrom, Lucina can all go kick rocks. The rest are fine as characters, however there is too much FE representation as is.
Christopher Cox
As if your argument doesnt boil down to "FE deserves special treatment because I like it and nobody else matters."
Carson Jackson
As if your argument isn't the same thing but for whatever series you're petitioning for instead of FE.
Brandon Smith
This example would only work if Pokemon was as unpopular as FE and the requested characters were also electric rodents but with different weapons and also the pokemon fans accused anyone of not wanting another one of being a pokemon hater.
Chase Reyes
I dont think my favorite series Is as deserving as pokemon like FE fans do
Charles Phillips
To be honest I kinda wish FE gets a completely out of the blue newcomer that no one asked for like with Plant just to piss off everyone It should be pic related
>these characters are Marth clones as long as you ignore any elements that makes them distinct from Marth And don't give me the weapon triangle bullshit, as though mages, mounts, dragons, archers, etc. aren't asked for.
Mason Watson
I see people saying this but i much prefer reading a couple of paragraphs than reading a fucking square novel. Not to mention people been spacing like that long since before Yea Forums much less reddit.
Hudson Thompson
no they couldn't the game creator even came out saying that was too early for that right during when they were getting the rights to DQ, Persona, and Banjo for DLC
Blake Butler
Its another nutendo fucking nintendos legacy episode, i miss you iwata
Caleb Green
>not Feh >not Micaiah >not the red jew >not Soren as a Robin echo you are bad at this
Luis Bailey
>i miss you wii/piiu man kys
Luke Wood
>people ask for them
In the FE bubble maybe, but outside of that they never come remotely close to being in the most requested vharacters
Sebastian Butler
Why are you bringing up fan requests as a whole now if the original subject was regarding what FEfags in particular ask for?
Parker Thompson
Who the fuck cares what FE fans want? You're an entitled shit if you see seven characters and still complain.
Carson Anderson
>Who the fuck cares what FE fans want? Read the fucking reply chain, you illiterate trog.
Don't jump into shit with counterpoints to arguments that nobody was actually making.
Gavin Barnes
I did, your example didnt work because it failed to mention multiple things
Aiden Reed
Such as?
user claims that people shouldn't complain about Marth clones because they would just ask for other Marth clones. How is it in any way invalid to note that fans do indeed request characters with distinct fighting styles?
>YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE FE CHARACTERS IN SMASH, DADDY SAKURAI IS A GOD AND I WON'T HAVE YOU BADMOUTH HIM WITH THIS HERESY >ALSO SAKURAI I FUCKING HATE FIRE EMBLEM URRRRRRRRRGH PLEASE CUT ALL OF THEM AND ADD (my favorite character) INSTEAD OR I'M GOING TO MAKE AN ANGRY TWITTER POST ABOUT IT This just proves my point that Smash fans lack any sort of self-awareness. Whether it be about what comes out of their mouth, or how their own body smells.
Its more like >FIRE EMBLEM DESERVES TO HAVE LOTERSLLY ALL THE SPOTS IN SMASH BECAUSE I LIKE IT AND NOBODY ELSE MATTERS AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS A FE HATER
Christopher Hill
I didn't ask for seven characters, nor do I need or want seven characters. Go fuck yourself.
Owen Edwards
That's true, you actually want way more than 7 because nothing's ever enough for you greedy fucks
Ethan Sullivan
On the contrary, I'd be more than happy if the cast was cut down to size, you projecting shit.
Christian Garcia
Remember how people were freaking out over Dark Samus despite literally being the same character? That's why, they can fill out highly requested characters without having to actually put out any actual work
Sebastian Carter
Greed implies dissatisfaction with what one currently possesses. In this circumstance that only applies to you, mentally ill cuttranny.
Henry Foster
But that's not what this is? Pretty much every Fire Emblem fan I've seen simply dislikes the current choices of characters and would rather have others. For example, getting rid of Corrin and putting in Ephraim, or something. I'm not really a big fan of FE, but I have played a few games, and I don't really like the current representation of the series in Smash. However, I'm also not going to cry like a little bitch baby over the fact that a character I don't like got in over one I do like (which is what every Smash fan, including you, does).
Let's say, hypothetically, that K Rool didn't get in, and instead the walrus guy from Tropical Freeze did. Does that make everyone who was disappointed "entitled"? Both of them are DK characters, so they should be 100% happy and okay with it.
Ephraim is not a fucking important character. Stop being fooled by Smash gameplayfags who just want a FE character who carries around a spear to be in the game, Ephraim is not important. Hector is not important.
Dominic Bell
People were complaining about FE characters in Smash long before Corrin, a lot of people were furious about 4 getting BOTH Robin and Lucina. And then instead of holding off on FE characters, they went and added Chrom on top of that, further cluttering the FE roster with yet another Marth clone.
That said, none of this would stop Byleth from being added to Smash, because Corrin was a good example of Sakurai doing whatever the fuck he wanted despite people complaining about FE. What would, however, stop Byleth from being added is the fact that the fighter pass seems to be all third-party characters. In normal circumstances he wouldn't be impossible but they're going for something else with the DLC.
Matthew Davis
That was a complete non-sequitur out of everything I brought up in that post. Would changing "Ephraim" in that post to say (FE character you think is important) make you actually acknowledge anything I said?
Ephraim would have been a good addition to Brawl if not for the fact that Ike's game was newer at the time. FE additions to Smash are largely based on timing. It's far too late to add him now. Corrin lucked out that his/her game was new at the exact time they were making DLC and had a slot open. But any TH rep is out of luck because their game came out too late for the base game, and too early to be a DLC choice, so we ended up with Hero.
Ian Hall
>hey we should give reps to other series instead of only FE >SO FUCKING GREEDY
Luis Peterson
I don’t want those characters cut I was using them as an example that we can have “fluff” characters
Isaac Flores
No you need to understand "FE fags" are not the ones asking for lords like Hector/Ephraim. It's a mix of GBA babbies and Smashfags that desperately want a character with an Axe/Spear. The narrative you guys are weaving that FE fags are dissatisfied with the roster and want those characters instead is fake.
Thomas White
>Byleth, an actually good lord he doesn't even fucking talk
James Jones
>But that's not what this is? Pretty much every Fire Emblem fan I've seen simply dislikes the current choices of characters Let me giess those fans are 4 people on some tiny fourm
Jayden Bennett
> Let's say, hypothetically, that K Rool didn't get in, and instead the walrus guy from Tropical Freeze did. Does that make everyone who was disappointed "entitled"? Both of them are DK characters, so they should be 100% happy and okay with it.
No because DK wasn't treated like fucking royalty before. This example would only work if K Rool and 4 other Dk characters were already in, and DK fans were shouting "NOOOO IT SHOULDVE BEEN THE BABY ELEPHANT FROK DKC3"
Matthew Flores
>No you need to understand "FE fags" are not the ones asking for lords like Hector/Ephraim. Hey we do ask for hector i agree with no one asking for Ephraim
Leo Barnes
>hey we should give reps to other series instead of only FE >SO FUCKING GREEDY No one said that user
Benjamin Russell
Don't even care for a one-to-one swap, personally. You can downsize the franchise's representation in the next game since it's not necessarily beholden to the same "everyone is here" expectation, I just want better actual FE reps.
We can't have a single other playable fighter from any of the pre-GBA entries (including the original fucking trilogy), but there's three characters from Awakening, an irrelevant shill pick in the form of Corrin, and the original shill pick in the form of Roy? Even Ike only really has the justification of his popularity moreso than any actual claims of significance he or his games have to the franchise at large.
Henry Butler
Byleth is....blyeh
Tyler Hill
>young Tiki Based and Cunnypilled
Hunter Nelson
Why do you guys insist on this retarded false dichotomy where any FE fans complaining about the current series roster must also want as many or more fighters as there currently are?
Connor Turner
>Pray to whatever it is the gods worship. Your end is at hand.
Nineteen year old me was cumming buckets the first time I played Radiant Dawn.
Jonathan Moore
I want Octolings as an Isabelle style semi Inkling clone.
Brandon Martin
Probably because every time you ask a FE fan how they would fix the roster they add 5 of their favorite characters at the minimum.
Austin Young
Lucina is who pissed everyone off.
People wanted Hector, Lyn w/bow, or at least Chrom over her. Robin was unique and Corrien has a love/hate relationship with everyone. Roy would have been less outrage with Lucina as well.
And those people usually remove 5 fe characters at minimum
Matthew Jones
Huge FE fag here. Roy, Lucina, Chrom, and Corrin get cut. Hector and Byleth get added.
Brandon Lopez
At BEST (as in maybe 1/100) they'll maybe remove either chrom or Lucina or Roy if they're feeling "generous"
Julian Miller
Alternatively, replace Hector with Lilina and Robin with Corrin to make fatesfags happy or something.
Christian Jones
>Lucina is who pissed everyone off. That's completely untrue also most of the people mad at fe characters getting in don't even play fe
Camden Fisher
Fucking this, just lol at people acting like Chrom and Lucina are unpopular in the FE community. Only Corrin is really disliked and that's more to do with Fates writing in general than the character itself, and Fates is pretty widely accepted as having some of the best gameplay in series.
Ryan Perez
There was 0 reason for Lucina to be anything more than a costume for marth. I also don't play fe but if the game has to flooded with them, they should at least use different weapons to show off the combat system.
Carson Morgan
>The narrative you guys are weaving that FE fags are dissatisfied with the roster and want those characters instead is fake. Well, I'm somewhat of a FE fan, as I said in , and I am dissatisfied with the current roster and would prefer other characters. Although, I don't really want Ephraim/Hector. A villain like Hardin or Arvis would be a better choice. As I said, though, I'm not going to throw a shitfit over it, it's just hypothetical.
I've seen a decent amount of posts here regarding changing the representation of the series without increasing it.
>No because DK wasn't treated like fucking royalty before. Jesus, you guys really do have the biggest fucking persecution complex on the planet.
>This example would only work if K Rool and 4 other Dk characters were already in, and DK fans were shouting "NOOOO IT SHOULDVE BEEN THE BABY ELEPHANT FROK DKC3" No, because whoever the fuck you're talking about isn't a main character/villain. It's incomparable to somebody wanting a different FE main character over one that is in Smash.
At this point, you can have Marth and one to three characters out of Tiki, Robin, and Blyeth; anywhere from two to four FE characters on the roster overall. Done.
Colton Thompson
thanks doc
Jaxson Jones
Just because someone wants different characters to make it in doesn't mean they hate the roster of characters we got
Dominic Murphy
>Jesus, you guys really do have the biggest fucking persecution complex on the planet.
As if FE fans would be able to survive even half the criticism Ridley, K roll and banjo had before they were revealed
Why does everyone who wants to get rid of the fire emblem characters we got in exchange for different ones always have shit taste
Isaiah Thompson
That's the point of the posts I've been making. You can't say "FE fans are entitled for wanting other FE characters over the ones we got" and then say "I wish all FE characters were cut and (my favorite character) gets in." It's hypocritical. I'm overall pretty chill with the Ultimate roster. I have a large amount of characters that I love in the game (Kirby, Marth, Joker, Richter, DQIV Hero). I'm content to just ignore the characters that I don't like.
Yeah, "before" they were revealed. FE fans have had to deal with salty smashfags on a daily basis ever since Corrin was added to Sm4sh.
Easton Morgan
>FE fans have had to deal with salty smashfags on a daily basis ever since Corrin was added to Sm4sh
Lmao no you haven't,
>WAAAH THIS ONE GUY THAT TEN PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD ARE DOGPILING ON MEANS MY FAVORITE GAME IS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST
Aiden Hall
>I'm not selfish because I want them to continuously add FE characters until they happen to get one I like
Nicholas Rodriguez
You can add characters while reducing the actual size of the FE cast. These aren't mutually exclusive.
Caleb Baker
Okay user it's okay we believe sweety
Christian Price
Reducing the ones you dont like for ones you do like is totally selfless.
John Moore
Lucina is an effortless clone. She did not take anyone's spot M8.
Julian Watson
Sure. I'll gladly throw FE characters I don't like under the bus, in favor of less characters overall but with ones I think are better reps for the franchise.
But unless you're also an FEfag and/or someone who just happens to like Roy or other arbitrary fighter's playstyle, why would you care either way?
Noah Stewart
>cutting fan favorite characters for no reason other than personal pettyness and gameplay fagging
>people aren't fans of Roy and Ike It must be hard for you to wrap your head around someone liking something you don't.
Robert Foster
I would say that it's more Chrom and Lucina that are out of place. I'm not familiar with FE but aren't they also from Robin's game? At least Corrin is from their own game.
Carson Garcia
Royfags were a mistake anyways.
Nolan Price
>smash fans hate fe >but they're also fan favorites
Luke Ortiz
>moving goalposts > >smash fans are one person
Caleb Stewart
Robin and Corrin are fine. They at least play differently.
Lucina and Roy should just be echos.
Nicholas Butler
>keeping scrappy fuck off
Brody Martin
the Dragonstone shit is all flash and not mechanically interesting
Anthony Wright
I enjoy playing Corrin but I don't care for the character as a whole. Never played any of the games but I would still be ok if a FE rep gets in for DLC (if there's a 2nd fighter pass) If I am going to play a FE game, it's going to be one of Ike's because I've heard good things about it.
Christian Walker
Yeah, great idea let's add side characters from a series that rarely even features the same main character in a series that has like 16 games. Fucking idiot, it's MCs only for a reason.
John Barnes
>This big a brainlet There's 3 fucking links. The "link" and "Zelda" are always model designed after the most recent one.
Nathan Jenkins
>It’s not a gimmick so I won’t acknowledge it
Owen Perry
Id rather have him over Rosalina
Carter Collins
There's 3 links only because of everyone is here.
Asher Clark
>Fire Emblem has gotten 4 newcomers in the last two games >Zelda has gotten 0 Fucking Sakurai.