Have you built that AMD gaming PC yet?

all of the amd cards that i have ever bought are fucking garbage

I still have my 1700X and I don't need to upgrade for now

I have a TR4 setup but fuck "Gaming", that shit is for retards.

Open source Linux AMD drivers > Windows Nvidia drivers > Windows AMD drivers

she's japanese and all japs buy ryzen now

yeah ryzen 3 2200g and rx 570 4gb, as you can tell I dont have a lot of money but it seems to run everything fine

i've been amd/ati only forever, currently have a 1600 and vega 64

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yes

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jesus how hot does your room get

no way i can walk up so many steps

>amd

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Why would I, I'm not a shit-eater.

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No, but it's getting close to the time to upgrade my PC and my next build is definitely going to be AMD. Fuck NVidia at this point.

damn bro idk what i'd do if I didn't have 24.1% faster FPS than the R5 3600 while playing apex legends(tm), the hit new battle royale!! fuck, thank you for this

Even worse, imagine having to take an FPS drop while playing a performance-intensive squad-based tactical co-op game like World War Z (Epic Store exclusive, available now!)?

Yes, I'd feel extremely stupid for buying 3600, which is both more expensive and slower than 9400f in games. Hell, even a $499 3900x is slower than a $149 9400f. I think AMD has some catching up to do.

God I want to see her panties

Yes

3600x
RTX2070
16 gigs

is marginally slower in some games and massively better in literally everything else*

So, in other words, is more expensive and considerably slower in anything but highly parallelized tasks. That's a tough sell, you have to be very brand loyal to AMD to consider taking a hit for their well-being.

People here seriously are changing their cpu and gpu after gen or two? I'm fucking 7gen behind now.

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its not actually that hot, speccy is just a meme when it comes to certain Ryzen CPUs.
HWmonitor says its hanging at 40-50 most of the time

3600 will be good for many years
Zen 2 (3000 series) is what next gen consoles will be using pretty much
A 3600 + 5700 XT is future proof for a long time.

Assuming you haven't upgraded at all lately this is a perfect time price wise.

>1600 will be good for many years
>2600 will be good for many years
>3600 will be good for many years

you people never learn huh

I5 9400f and 1660ti

>amd

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It's because consoles will have 3600 level CPU and maybe worse so all games will target it and run good on it.

Are Integrated GPUs good yet

3700x, x470 mobo, 2080 card

There's nothing to play and the most intense game I'm running is FF14. Where did Valve go bros

Apparently PS4 and XB1 had FX-tier CPUs and guess what, every PC game runs like utter shit even on the top of the line FX cpus.

>build with ryzen 3900x
>mfw enjoying BOTW upscaled to 1440p at over 60fps and other Wii U titles at full speed

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Cemu uses up to 3 threads retard, you could as well enjoyed it the same on 3600 with half of it disabled.

Sure, for games 7th gen and earlier.

I ran some games on the UHD 630 chip of my i3 8100.

Don't feel like burning down my house, sorry.

Definitely didn't need a 3900, I emulated BOTW well on my i3 8350k.

Do the new Ryzens have all the kinks worked out yet?

What's the cheapest PC you could get that's at least better than a PS4 Pro and can decently emulate anything?

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no im sure those chinks are still working

No, I haven't changed in generations either, but the upcoming AMD CPUs and GPUs are much better and cheaper than their Intel and Nvidia counterparts, so everyone who's planning on upgrading is talking about it more now than before.

no but I paid someone else to do it for me

>decently emulate anything
no such thing

IDK, depends on your budget

2600 cpu + 5700 gpu is pretty good value

The best price/performance system right now IMO is 3600 + 5700 XT

I use an i3 8100 and 1660 and can emulate pretty much everything except the PS3.

I have a 3900X and a used 1080 Ti. It's the redpilled choice.

Do people seriously pay $350-$500 for a processor to play games on 1080p?

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of course, why is it so strange to you?

Waiting for those new tredrippen processors to come out to build my new rendering station to make unlitimed cunny renders

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Yes. It's The Way It's Meant To Be Played. It's the NVidia tagline for a reason.

1440p 144hz IPS displays are cheap as balls now, why pay so much money for absolutely overkill processor when you're using a screen that doesn't even display half the frames you're rendering?

Not even 2080ti can reasonably drive 144hz 1440p ips displays, and I'm not spending $1200 on a gpu that's for sure.

not every game is like tomb raider or metro exodus, in fact most games aren't

>HE FELL FOR RYZEN

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>Not even 2080ti can reasonably drive 144hz 1440p
Why are you lying? Even my shitty 1070 can run most games at above 100fps on high settings with a 1440p, which is an absolutely massive difference over 1080p 60fps

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If the CPU is better at 1080p, it's better at all resolutions. A CPU isn't good at one resolution and bad at another.

Good for them, it's still not enough sadly
Smoothness always comes first before sharpness, and I hope you're aware of existence of SSAA and what it does. 1440p looks sweet on a 1080p monitor, 1080p look like dog shit on a 1440p monitor, hope that is clear. And by the way, don't buy AMD hardware for gaming, it's pretty bad, oh and don't affirm validity of CPU tests with a GPU bottlneck, that makes you look pretty incompetent too.

The point is at 1440p you are more GPU limited. The difference in CPU at 1440p and 4k is reduced. 1080p it is maximized

>1.4v

That's pretty rough, my 2500k is nearly 1.4 and it's heavily overclocked.

Are the ryzen models overclockable?

Yes, literally the only downside to AMD is higher power draw. Everyone's known this for years.

redpill me on AMD i always used INTEL but now i want to build a second PC using a Ryzen 3 3200G

>Are the ryzen models overclockable?
not really. they get a heavy "stock OC"

CPU performance doesn't affect framerate as much as GPU performance at high resolutions: why would anyone pay $300 more for a 9900k over a AMD 2700 when you only get something like 5% more FPS?

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>1.207v 5.2ghz

doubt thats stable, if so, its VERY VERY cherrypicked, not all intel cpus can do that

why would I want to lower the ceiling and not exaggerate the difference in performance to its largest extent to make an informed purchasing decision?
you're really grasping at straws to make a case for AMD here

This

You also have to compare spending $100 more on GPU rather than upgrading CPU

Every single part in your computer is not just comparable to the same part, but also in spending that money on a different aspect of the build.

For gaming, you want to maximize GPU performance over CPU performance most of the time and especially at budget levels.

$100 more on GPU is usually a much better allocation than $100 more on CPU for gaming purposes.

Because there's is no point in settling for inferior performance even if the difference is not as pronounced.

Your question is... just retarded.
Why would I want a better CPU? Why, for the myriad situations where a better CPU is ideal. If I want to play 240hz on some shooters, I had better not have a Ryzen chip.

Hm? Me? I buy Intel + Nvidia every generation.
Noctua air coolers, too.

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>CPU
>resolution
???

As the owner of SLI 970s and a 4690K, I have been fucked twice in one build.

I am going full AMD when I update.

My RX580 is a pretty faithful boy, even with AMD's drivers for Windows not being so good

You only got fucked by your meager brain with retarded purchases.
4790k and 980ti and you're set, but no, a mouth breather like you must make a fool of himself and blame companies for his mistakes

Lower resolutions stress the CPU more because they produce higher frame rates.

At 4k/60FPS the CPU is sending sixty frame requests to the GPU per second. The contents of the requests (what render settings the GPU shall prepare) dont matter to the CPU. At 1080p/240fps the CPU is required to send 4x as many requests per second

Working on it, I only really need a CPU upgrade (FX-8320E currently) and this seems pretty good.
pcpartpicker.com/product/6mm323/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-36ghz-6-core-processor-yd260xbcafbox

Not everyone has massive amounts of disposable income to spend on such a minor increase in performance, and others don't feel like wasting money on something that would be mostly unnoticeable 99% of the time. If you feel like encouraging Intel's incompetence instead of encouraging competition in the consumer CPU market go ahead and buy their overpriced processors, but don't be surprised when they keep pushing 14nm++++++ with 2% better performance every year

>Nvidia straight up lies about what the 970 is
>Intel borks a decade worth of CPUs with a hardware flaw

Yeah, nah, none of that is my fault, cocksucker.

Already did. Dad bought it from some niggers.

Works great. They probably stole it.

>SLI

Your problem is lack of research, not picking a wrong company

You know you have a shitty product at hand when the only redeeming quality you can come up with is that it's cheap.

My problem isn't with SLI, it's with 3.5 gigabytes of VRAM not being 4 gigabytes of VRAM.

I do not understand what you're insinuating. 9700K defeats all Ryzen CPUs in games. It is $150 cheaper than the top-level Ryzen chip. Intel is not "better but more expensive", it's just better.

yes, that 512mb vram with a slower bus and vulnerabilities mitigation patches is exactly why you fucked yourself with your dumbfuck build, good logical conclusion, dumbfuck

He just has different priorities dude.
>The only redeeming quality you can come up with is that it's cheap!
>The only redeeming quality YOU can come up with for paying hundreds of dollars more is that there's a 5 frame increase even though both hit 60+ fps.
etc.

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I just have a laptop that I use to play 1.6 and source surf.

Keep in mind FC5 was made in concert with AMD

youtube.com/watch?v=QkM70XFhs10

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yes indeed, the ever "good enough" company for people who deserve mediocrity

I was sold faulty merchandise. Your opinions on SLI are irrelevant. AMD next PC.

I did a while ago and its great, but honestly I regret spending so much money as I hardly play games anymore

...

>I was a retard in my last build, and as a consequence I shall elect to be a retard in my next build as well!

A fool and his money

If you say so dude.

>value is a terrible redeeming quality
Woah... so you only wear rolex watches and drive supercars? Also pretty much anyone who uses their PC for something other than gaming 100% of the time will benefit massively from ZEN 2, Intel has absolutely nothing to compete with AMD in the productivity market

The 9700k is $400, when a R5 3600 is $200 and offers 95% of the same performance, why pay twice the price for something you'll never use?

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it could be Via or IBM for all that's matters, a dumbfuck like you will always find a way to screw himself with his dumbfuck decisions

Can you explain why I'm retarded instead of memetexting at me?

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Does Ryzen perform as well as Intel for single core stuff too? I haven't kept up with CPUs for a long time and AMD used to always suck for anything that didn't take a ton of threads.

No, I actually just ordered an i5 9400f yesterday.

You're awfully angry about all of this. Do you own Nvidia/Intel stock?

>on a gaming board
>b-but poozen is so good for things outside gaming, look at these cinebench scores

Stop making a fool of yourself, this is embarrasing to watch.

As I tried to explain to you at the start of this reply chain, SLI is a marketing gimmick and doesn't work properly. One needs to only google "SLI" to find out about the microstutters, the average +10% performance delta (and sometimes a NEGATIVE performance delta) compared to single-card, the extra mandatory buffer-frame that adds input lag to everything you do, the crashing and instability, the many games that just straight up don't support it, etc.

Do you get angry when you see a monkey smering its face with shit in a zoo? It evokes a tad different emotions.

Also it goes without saying but crossfire is even worse

>everyone who ever posts on a gaming board never once considers using their multi thousand dollar machines to also render video or photographs

woah... intel is winning again... can't wait for 14nm++++....

>works great in a lot of stuff
>can just switch to single GPU for when it doesn't

yeah, I think you're just being a little too evangelical about this. You're like a zealot.

>downloads third party software to check computer parts
> not using based dxdiag.exe

alright fags real talk here. I wanna get amd cpu. I will be pairing this with a 2070. Should I get the 3600 or the 3700? next gen consoles will be 8 core and those shits always get ported to pc. But I'd mostly be playing 1080p or 1440p tops (I prefer fps over res). No guarantee they will use those 8 cores though.

>yes sir please buy poozen, it renders videos well, nevermind the gaming performance

we got it pajeet, you have a family to feed
maybe shouldn't have started the OP with this then
>Have you built that AMD gaming PC yet?

red beats blue, LOOK IT UP

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user, he's got the same mindset as the average console-war shitposter and wants to have the same endless console war about PCs too. The idea that different things have different values and uses does not occur to him at all.

this is starting to get pathetic lad, I even own a 3570k and am getting secondhand embarrassment from your desperate post purchase rationalization-ing

Most games don't necessarily scale 1:1 at all but microstuttering is pretty much gone in most games, multi-GPU setups are definitely worth it if you can find your same card for cheap when it's a few years out of date since you'll get much more performance per dollar than just buying a new single card

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>microstuttering is pretty much gone in most games

Source: my ass!

SLI is literally a gimmick and provides inferior performance to single-card of higher tier.

Never once have I noticed microstuttering with the two 1070s I had, last time I did with a Nvidia setup was with 480s

Yes, but I only have Ryzen 5.
>and RTX 2060

Depends on if you think $130 is worth it for around ~10% better performance at the moment, might be more a few years down the line though.

core temp can also measure temp of ryzen 5 for those interested
alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

>i5 4690k
>hd7950
Stay cucked releasefags

>might be more a few years down the line though.
yeah thats the fucking question there. I'm assuming that down the line it will be much better for newer games coming out. But it might not, or those games will just suck.

Still debating between the 3600 and the 3700x.
I'm not looking for a powerhouse, but I'd hate to invest in a 3600 only to be struggling to keep up with the next-gen 8 cores.

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