Why does FFXIV rdm look so gay when ffxi rdm looked so pimp?

Parses are for trannies and low-test humans

seething
21 more days until you can enjoy a 10 year old game faggot. Then maybe you and your favorite streamers can stay jealous in the past where you belong.

I know right, I went full soi jaw a few times this expansion. Shit hurts, I don't know how nintendo fans do it so often.

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High-test is natural in a competitive environment. Low-cost is hiding your parses

>Male miqo'te will never look like this

Why live.

>people keep saying titania normal is a shitfest
>queue for it for WT resets
>one shot it with 6 new people

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Cause you're a contrian

>HAHA I CALLED HIM A NINTENDIE/WOWBABY SO FREAKING EPIC, HONEY BRING JAMAL IN HE'S GOTTA SEE THIS.

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Yes user, do it.

>Way behind on MSQ
>Doing The Vault for the first time
>Get to the cutscene afterwards
Why does Heavensward keep hurting me so?

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I got scared of joining a static because I hate elitiest. so I joined some random static off PF and went on their parses. they're all grey parses. At least I'm going to have a good time with no salt, right? ;)

So I don't know if my parser is broken but my co-dps in almost every dungeon run I've parsed has been total shit (minus a dnc)

I've been averaging high 7k - low 8k in level 70-80 dungeon bosses
my co-dps will average 4-5k in boss battles
Sometimes the tank will DPS more than them.
Sometimes even a healer. The only time I've had someone get into 6k+ was a DNC.

Is there something wrong with my parsers? I've noticed that all my codpses were all ranged (magic and physical). Is ACT reading these classes correctly? I honestly don't think a BLM should be doing 4-8k during big pulls when I'm hitting 25k but yet every blm I ran into does.

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Luck of the draw. Until two days ago I never had a bad run, but the healers and off tank were incapable of doing mechanics.

G-Goodbye user.

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@473201938
not even worth 1 (You)

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Shut the fuck up you dumb faggot

Don't forget these guys.

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Eh, Male viera are meh for me. With how much they fucked up Male Au ra proportions I had zero faith in Male Viera looking this good ever.

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good

Literally who

>start playing ffxi on private server
>don't know how to jump
>apparently jumping is a chat command

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Why did they turn BRD into a ranger instead of a support?

Because it was broken.

For when they eventually rename current Bard to Ranger (or just outright keep it as Archer) and when they remake Bard entirely into a support DPS.

@473202617
if you can't understand my post then it's no wonder your tiny brain can't handle even ffxiv. Please go back to your pastel erp prison. This is the last indirect reply I'm gonna give you, don't (You) me.

Why are you mad at me?

>DON'T (YOU) ME

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>jumping
>in a ffxi private server
must be some gay current shit. There was no jumping in early ffxi unless you were a Dragoon.

I have no idea. Every class was more interesting in ffxi. ffxiv has a higher skill ceiling but a much more rigid structure.

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ok so im still mid 2.2 and the MSQ are giving me no xp at all how can i get from 59 to 60 relatively fast i'm already done all my dailies for the day

yeah a redmage with an af that looks clean and a normal sword looks way worse than a limp wristed pussy with a giant glowing orb offhand.
Why the fuck was rdm design changed? They were supposed to be a light armor battle mage not a fencer with a magical orb.

>

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Mid patch quests (x.1 to x.55) don't give exp.

if you haven't finished msq you shouldn't be concerned about level.
The fact that you're that high is somewhat baffling in itself. Once you're through 5.0 you'll be capped almost entirely by msq exp.

fucking cringe

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Play DNC

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thank god desu, can't be gay when they are a minority and need to have several females mating with them for the good of their species! How does it feel that a miqote fuccboi has sexed a billion more (kitty) women than you?

>Tfw you forget to lock hotbars and spaghetties all over your shortcuts while panicking during a trial

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>Says this
>90% of Male Miqo'te players are all gay as fuck.
>That one tranny Male Miqo in Eulmore

What did this user mean by this? also you realize the Nuhn system only works for Seekers, and the only examples we see are described as not being the norm for how Miqo'te who acclimate to society behave.

feels good not being a product of incest

You faggots often mock me for playing with controller but at least I never have to worry about this ever happening to me.

this faggot was tanking
>rush ahead
>baby pulls except when healer was out of mp
>NEVER use single target attacks
>usually just 5-10 aoes per pull
>then this
>3 of these fill the chatlog
never have I met someone so deserving of death.

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I appreciate the image but please don't encourage more people to play DNC. I get enough "low damage, partner with the tank" dancers already.

both of your dps are shit

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>everyone : haha they mistranslated this dude gender
>Yea Forums : T R A N N Y
Amazing.

this. dpslets never learn

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What DPS should I be doing in leveling dungeons?

Is that modded headgear?

who the fuck cares?

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ironically I want more people to play DNCs, they're the only ones who do decent DPS in dungeons.

Yes.

I haven't played/beaten a lot of FFs, only 1, 5, 6 and 7, but Red Mages are genuinely one of my favorite visual designs in gaming.

>End of MSQ healer set looks like garbage again.

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S O U L

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nigger. you just told me my dps shit. tell me what number i should be aiming for you fucking faggot.

I hope you gave him that commendation :^)

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Scholars don't deserve anything good on their life.

soulless...

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Nigger

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This.
Red Mages are top tier design-wise.

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>90% of Male Miqo'te players are all gay as fuck.
not canon desu, I mean even the amount of male Miqo'tes goes against the canon desu.

Fucking around must be a part of their genes, look at how slutty female Miqo'tes are desu
You wouldn't fuck your kitty twin desu?

Are single or "specialist" crafters viable yet? I wouldn't mind having to level 1 discipline if it alone can bring in some gil, I just don't have the time for full omnicrafter autism.

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>Still referred to as a she
>"I-IT'S JUST A LOCALIZATION ERROR!"

You okay bud? male Miqo'te is the designated gay race.

Ooh a rare trading card

Even when their meta WHMs still seethe.

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>This delusional

The canon states that only a small subsection of Male Miqo'te participate in the Nuhn/Tia system to begin. Read the lore books, the female Miqo'te you meet in city states have conformed to Hyur society, same with the Xaela tribal systems like that are niche and thrown out the window for NPCs.

Wrong

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Maybe if you do cul or alc. Every craft depends on others (CRP makes wood used in BSM swords, armor sometimes needs cloth or leather) so you’d go broke getting requires mats. You’ll have to level all of them at least somewhat for cross class skills though

higher than fucking high 7k as a monk bruh, you need to get cuhrazy

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I need to spend more time beating a dummy. Maybe it would help me to stop being a dpslet, but it's just so boring.

>same with the Xaela tribal systems like that are niche and thrown out the window for NPCs.
>tfw no horsefucker or pissdrinker npc

Ugh. What the fuck did yoshi do to blu? Who is designing this shit?

I'm finally getting stuff this expansion.

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Which job is the most clownpilled?

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bro tell me a number. it's leveling content.

>blu
>lvl 80
ouch

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Don't listen to jewish lies, some day brother. Some day.

dude stop begging for a spoonfeed and go look it up

Can you do anything with shit low tier materia?

I used to play DNC until Yea Forums consistently informed me how useless and bad they are and now I don't. Hard to argue with facts and statistics.

holy shit nigger. YOURE THE ONE TELLING ME ITS BAD, IM ASKING YOU HOW MUCH I SHOULD BE DOING

HOW DO YOU KNOW IF IM DOING BAD NUMBERS IF YOURE NOT TELLING ME THE NUMBER

Tell me BRDbros out there, why do you play this class? Thinking about finally getting around to leveling my ARC.

Everything looked better in FFXI. FFXIV Paladin looks like a goofball in a halloween outfit, weilding an equally goofy rubber sword.

Getting all these armors in XI was also really challenging but also really rewarding.

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>DURR STOP BEGGING FOR A SPOONFEED
NIGGER IM ASKING WHY YOU THINK MY DPS IS BAD. I CLEARLY ASKED WHAT I SHOULD BE AIMING FOR OR WHATS A "GOOD" DPS

Only real issue I have is comm begging. Particularly because its the fucking tank. 1000 isn't that many when you get at least one for free every fucking run.

dunno. i noticed more people just running for the exit as soon as the instance is done even though the run went great.

no comms for anyone i guess.

>That one fucking PLD relic piece that requires you to fish

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It's an emote like /wave or something. Don't think it's actually capable of letting go over anything you couldn't just walk over.

You are being baited bro

Parsing dungeons is laughable, it's not going to give you a clear metric of anyones skill because shocker, people don't really try hard in dailies or do well in dungeons they are new at. The only thing you should parse is ex trials, Eden savage, and maybe normal Eden.

>No one really tries hard
I do :( I just use dungeons as practice for how my rotation should go

Gotta future proof for 7.0.
Trusts already have a warning to tell you you can't do it as Blu.

Just play RDM and never revive anyone. Bonus points for doing that in serious content.

The design is fine desu. Nice nod to V. Too bad about the rest though.

healers because you can decide who lives and dies and drag people to their own death with rescue

Does anyone want to play baseball?

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What gloves are those?

Sup bro

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how do i disable the same stupid chocobo song from coming up whenever i mount

>averaging high 7k - low 8k
Nigger you're also shit, don't be talking about others

It's literally based on the original design, nothing based on FFV is soulless

Pagos field dressing

You can disable mount music in system settings I believe.

If by luck I will get Lightweight Tomestone from E2S If I kill E2S god dammit I should take Deepshadow weapon first right?

because like everything, FFXIV is gay and FFXI was pimp.

Why are they forced to live in the woods alone? Too high test and will breed too many kids?

nigga, HOW MUCH SHOULD I BE DOING IN LEVELING DUNGEONS.
IVE BEEN ASKING THAT HOLY SHIT AHHHHHHHH

Nobody plays BRD

Because every armor in FFXIV is over designed trash.

/mountbgm

Because Redmages have used Rapiers for awhile, the "orb" is a interesting take to blend the magic that they also do. Sorry you like boring things

fuck Yea Forums you piece of shit god damn retards, you can talk the talk but you can't walk the walk. i'm listening to a bunch of greylets erpers fuck you're bullshit why don't you fucks go to
>vg

>can't even do squadrons or trusts as BLU
>yet still lock spells in dungeons which are impossible to do alone
WHICH IS IT SQUARE
IS IT A FUCKING SOLO JOB OR IS IT A FUCKING REAL JOB

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kek. They fixed that whole thing in a later update so it no longer depends on your fishing skill. Still remember the name of that stupid fish. Odontotyrannus.

i still dont get how they managed to make FFXIV have graphics that look worse than a game made in 2003.

Not that user, you should be doing around 10k

Based Lalberd

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That's just because you're a braindead shitposter. Forgive my pleonasm.

in ill mheg?

Or maybe people just dislike SCHs because of their insufferable personality.

>WHICH IS IT SQUARE IS IT A FUCKING SOLO JOB OR IS IT A FUCKING REAL JOB
It's neither now that they are backpedalling and making the next part of the carnivale a 4 (or is it 5?) man thing.

System config > sound settings > uncheck the box that says play music while mounted, then it just plays the zone music

Okay Yea Forums, how do we make the current housing system better?

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At least. You running the strength pots right?

but FFXIV Paladin looks so much better than FFXI's

They have no fucking clue what to do with it.

Stop listening to that guy.

BLU

Yes nigger, MNK got massive buffs and already had high dps and you are pulling stormblood NIN numbers

It's mainly the lighting engine which is total shit.

YES NIGGER, I'M USING FOOD AS WELL.

i agree, it's one of the many reasons I ended up just going back to XI private servers instead of playing XIV.

nah XIV suffers from the same shit every new game does, and has done for years now
>ALL TEXTURES ARE SHINY!!!!!!
>Anti-aliasing? Never heard of it
>hmmm you can see the lack of textures and artwork showing through, better cover it up with bloom, shitty lighting and vaseline-screen
yeah nah.
Especially compared to pic related, made in 2003. Old games always have better lighting and textures.

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(you)

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More wards first, and make some of those wards FC housing only

instanced housing options that are bigger than the one-room model. also if they had an outdoor portion that'd be kino.

seriously, that's it. maybe some alternatives for guilds to access airships.

What is even the point of limited jobs?
Why would anyone level something that isn't even playable in the vast majority of the game's content?

yeah that's what I figured.
XI's lighting engine was fucking great, especially for it's time.

just copy wildstar

let me see you parse qitana ravel.

Waste time. Just like eureka

This asks the question: PLD or DRK?

Remove certain restrictions on where things can be placed.
They finally add actual loft things so people can stop glitching troupe stages, but make it so you can only place tabletop items on them, what the fuck.

>BLM
>check my E1S chest run
>it's grey
>my first clear was near blue
>all those dps drops during pure beams and orbs baiting
Bros...I guess I will go back to my SMN. It's too hard.
>tomestone gear has no speed speed
>tomestone weapon has no spell speed

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DAMN YOU BRO DAMN YOUR WRETCHED BLESSING

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Red mages are styled after Ishgardian nobles' clothing along with their use of rapiers, they get a big shoulder-cape to have all the same enchanted thread and shit woven into their clothing like conjurers/thaumaturges/white and black mages do without hindering their movement with big robes

They do bring up that a huge amount of the purpose behind their gear is freedom-of-movement, they took to fencing because a lot of its movements "magnified" a mage's personal mana and they can't or won't use atmospheric aether because of red magic being a by-product of the War of the Magi. So on paper their entire kit is oriented around casting black and white magic at something approximating their original power using nothing but the red mage's own mana

oh fuck...sorry user, you just kind of suck(no offense). May want to try another mmo.

there's like 4 different niggers telling me my dps is low and I should be hitting 10k. how the fuck should I do that? I'm already using potions and food and I'll barely hit 9k sometimes.

What the fuck, that's even worse. I liked figuring out the comfy carnival puzzles. It's the only piece of content in the game where you aren't shoved from behind by other players who have already done it before

Literally just let BLU into DF, even if it means disabling OP spells for the sake of balance

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parse qitana ravel and get back to me. i wanna know if its possible

Dungeons DPS literally doesn't matter.

His master plan involved him sacrificing himself for the WoL and the Scions' sakes without their consent, he had every reason and then some considering all the stories of selfless heroism

>more wards
>lock one house per account (should've been done originally instead of the placard camping nonsense)
>separate personal and guild housing into separate wards
>more housing locations
>more medium/large houses

Maybe if they did some of this, housing could get some more "usefulness". But we already know none of this is going to happen thanks to the spaghetti code this game was built on.

I don't even have hope for Ishgard housing.

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Implement mabinogi style homesteads and replace the apartments for it.
Make wards FC and FC only and refund every single private owned house the full amount of cash spent to purchase their house.

Done, fixed, nobody bitches ever again.

ENOUGH, BRO!
>launches White Mhiggercite at Ascianberd

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Eh BLU having nothing to do is apparently getting solved in 5.1. I couldn't care less about it being a limited job.

Like I said, braindead. You can tell this is pre 2010 by just looking at the water or the trees or literally any fucking thing in it.

Just give everyone a moghouse with a garden. FFXI did housing better at this stage

>It's the only piece of content in the game where you aren't shoved from behind by other players who have already done it before
Well, too bad. Their attempt at fixing it is making it group content and putting some new rewards behind it, meaning it will turn into a grindfest where you get kicked for not having the discord approved build.

>tomestone weapon has no spell speed
So? Not like you're gonna buy that. It's a fucking waste of tomestones.

>tomestone gear has no speed
Simply not true.

What are these S rank whatevers i keep seeing announced in chat every once in a while? I literally only did the MSQ.

how easy is it to get a crafter from 70 to 80 if i just want to get to 80 and dont care about being able to craft stuff? I just wanna be able to pentameld my own shit.

Hunts/elite marks
They have a range of benefits if you get involved with it.

But then I can't shit on BLM doing 2k on AoE mobs.

Hunts, big monsters that spawn out in the field and have a bunch of health and give seals and tomestones when they die

let us place more items so i can fully recreate an applebees

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There's no actual confirmation the 5-man instances are Masked Carnivale puzzles, Yoshida's only word on it has been BLU will have its own multiplayer instances. We don't know if there'll even be more Carnivale or not. gamerevolution.com/features/558815-final-fantasy-14-yoshida-interview

Leveling crafters/gatherers to 80 is really easy. Just do leves in the Crystarium and you'll shoot up in no time.

FF14 Paladin looks better than FF11 Paladin, same with Dragoon, or really any class with metal armor.

>split FC houses into their own wards
>more wards overall
>one house per account while allowing all the characters on that account to use the house so it's shared with alts
>Make it more strict to not have your house demolished

Seriously this last one is just ruining things probably harder than anything else on the big list anyone could make. So many people currently have houses literally just because, empty houses they use for nothing at all. Then on top of this you have the people that buy a house, stop playing the game, but keep a sub up and step one foot in the house every few weeks so they wont lose it. I know multiple people who stopped playing for the full duration of Stormblood but kept their houses just because "They may play again next year". Housing is limited and should only be for people that are actually playing the game, if you aren't then you should be refunded all money and all items should be put in storage you to claim when you come back.

Oh fug i'll look into that.

What should I level next, SMN/SCH, GNB, or MCH?

I'd like the XI armor for DRG as a glamour option, XIV's Drachen set is named after it but doesn't look like it. Same for other gear that shares the same name for ARR artifacts but not the design

they all look like a big, goofy, plastic mess. They look like bad cosplay rather than actual armor. The only exception is Dragoon and, even then, that's only for the 1.xx version that actually had physics on the armor.

G N B
N
B

GNB -> MCH -> SCH/SMN

as if telling the truth would have changed anything. Calculated risks faggot. Urianger knew the score.

>Not like you're gonna buy that. It's a fucking waste of tomestones.
Why? For eden savage weapon you need 8 book of sepulture, And this implying I can clear E4S with pugs every week.

paladin is the same goddamned set with a different circlet and a different tabard

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Is the regular trial roulette even worth doing?

don't drag XI into your gay general spam

>we want the WoWfugee audience
(You) tasteless faggot
are you blind? serious question

>open thread expecting ffxi comf
>it's just another faggy ffxiv thread, gays and all

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Look at this beauty. Why does PLD win EVERYTIME?

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Whining about buttcapes aside, PLD won the artifactbowl this expansion

Go to sleep old man, or else.

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Nigga you're a black mage. The weapon will go to you on your first kill. No static with a lead on half a brain cell or more would do otherwise.

Every single XI is always the same shit.

"Bros remember x content?"
"I wish xiv had more of y content just like XI had"
"Why is XIV so shit compared to XI"
"ahn~ tanaka senpai~ "

>open thread expecting ffxi comf
Last XI thread was nothing but XIfags (20 unique IPs) crying about XIV and shitting at XIV instead of discussing own game. Still beyond me why do think XI is some kind of holy magnum opus of gaming.

>Trusts take forever between packs but the AI is often better than tard randos

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It's missing
>we have airships and submarines

Good. Let the phoenix temper you

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>static

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Imagine doing that stupid shit. There's legit no purpose. Should have just let us roll with our real squadron.

because they put so much time and money into it that they can't let it go
just like wowfags

>and this one has 60 XIV fags ERPing
gee, I wonder why

>Imagine doing that stupid shit
HEY. I do that stupid shit to level my tank classes because I like being a tank but hate actually tanking, for your information.

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XIV RDM is dapper as fuck, bro

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>and this one has 60 XIV fags ERPing
>not a new IP

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I did them because they felt more fitting story wise.

>you now realize that pld goetia shield has light up eyes

If they just let you do it with the npcs you've already been raising up for this exact purpose then I'd be all for it. Instead we get yet another, pointless leveling mechanic solely to waste time. At least leveling the squad led to higher ranks in the GC.

what erp? If it makes you stop making shit up, I'll try to "straighten out" this thread.

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but I'm OP and my post is specifically talking about xiv.
I'm not gonna play a dead mmo user but that doesn't mean I can't miss it

Then have fun competing with 7 other clowns for the weapon.

Trusts are great because they have personality and unique dialogues.

>try out XI with the sole purpose of playing BLU after XIV botched it so hard
>everyone raves about it being the best implementation of BLU in the entire Final Fantasy series
>give it a go
>few hours of wandering around figuring out what the fuck I'm supposed to do and how I'm supposed to do it
>20+ hours of grinding mobs in the overworld to get to level 30
>more hours grinding reputation and going through the convoluted process of gaining access to the city where BLU is
>finally unlock BLU
>level 1, back to the start with many hours of grind ahead of me
>even worse, it literally takes an hour to learn a single spell from a basic enemy in the starting area
>after 5 hours of doing literally nothing but killing mobs trying to learn these spells
>I have 4 spells
>uninstall

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trusts are great because they make the worst shitters realize a crappy ai avoids mechanics better than they do.

They could have just added "personality types" to your npcs. You would have gotten the same shit out of it. Unless your waifuism really is that out of control.

>as if telling the truth would have changed anything.
His whole plan was to reveal himself as a twist villain that wanted the light to conquer the multiverse. That way, the WoL and other Scions wouldn't try to stop him.

I never win rolls so whatever. Tomestone weapon is only choice. I doubt statics need any of tomestone gear desu. It's static after all. Meanwhile pugging is like little adventures.

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Do you skip cutscenes?

Sure, it's not a flimsy veil for your gay-ass general at all. Aren't you a clever cookie. Do you want a pat on the back?

>I doubt statics need any of tomestone gear desu.
Not true. Everyone's best in slot list is a mix of tomestone gear (augmented) and eden drops. For BLM you want to buy the pants with tomestone first. Augment it with the twine that drops out of leviathan, it should go to you on a priority. But then again, you're pugging so good luck on the roll.

Except that one midboss where the AI constantly steals your tether at the last second, causing the boss to grow and wipe.

That's you, not the AI failing.

nope. Whole bird on the head.

No, I don't. Pretending that allisae quipping about how much a faggot her brother is is not lore. Its meaningless fluff and you know it.

>With consistency
I mean, do you just join parties with a 445ilvl floor or what

They actually avoid mechanics in the most retarded way possible

Don't post those boots ever again.

how does one go about finding statics
where do they advertise

how the fuck do I get orange rDPS? My rotation is perfectly on point but I can only get purples

I thought it took perfluorocarbons and other oxygenated liquids to replace air, but this man's managed to replace air with cock.

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>Grab a tether
>AI waits until the last second to grab theirs
>Because they aren't programmed to tell which one the player grabbed, Urianger runs right in front of you and takes that tether
>Not enough time to grab one of the remaining ones
>Boss grows, wipe

Please explain how this is my fault.

>He can't Magic Burst with Shantotto 2

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You get into a better group that kills shit faster.

party finder. Every now and then you'll see something like
"Midcore group LF *role here* *times*"

it's all cock cock cock with you people

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I thought rDPS was based on only your performance and not relevant on others? I'm BLM I don't have any buffs to hand out

>Alisaie gets out of AoE
>This means that she has to stop attacking even though she is ranged

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>static just clearing Titania
Find a new static shitter.

Any red mage worth their salt has a bird on their head.

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Consider you deal the same amount of damage throughout the fight.
One time you kill it 2,5 minutes faster than another time, is your dps same or more on the faster run?

Look like a fucking clown.

So why did SE throw old level-cap balance out the fucking window with some of the potency changes in 5.0 applying to pre-70 levels?

DRG/MNK/BRD are broken at 50-cap, and SAM/RDM/DNC/MCH destroy 60-cap for example. They could have had the potency boosts as a job trait obtained at 71+ or some shit.

I just beat MSQ with trusts so maybe I just like them. They should add proper trust AI for ARR squads too.

going against the grain for its own sake must get boring

ARR overdesigns its gear in general. XI kept things generally practical and lean.

>Using Alisaie ever
Bitch gets wet at the idea of wasting whatever LB you had. Use Yshtola as a ranged caster and never look back.

That's not how it works son.

>stand directly in the center of the bosses hitbox
>wait for ai to grab tethers
>grab whatevers left.
Wow, real tough dipshit.

This isn't a new thing (Samurai and Red Mage, especially RDM, absolutely shredded any ARR instance they were put into along with a lot of HW instances), and old level-cap balance was already destroyed way back when they gave you the ilvl90 upgraded artifact armors as a freebie with your lv. 50 chestpiece.

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Can you link spell speed bis? Should be ~3k right?

You do 10k damage in 10 seconds, resulting in 1k dps.
You do 10k damage in 20 seconds, resulting in 500 dps.

You literally need fast clears as well if you want to have orange parse.

Why does every XI thread has to compare every aspect of the game to XIV and say that they are better in every way? even the most irrelevant things, you have a way to bitch about: the girls, the glass textures, what next - how dogs looked in XI are far better than how they look in XIV? You are trying to sound like boomers who are far more cultured then you complaining about shitty modern stuff, just stop with this autistic listing.

Can't you

Good ol' Ares set. What I do wish they'd stop doing in ARR is their fetish for 90% of body armor nowadays having fucking skirts/half-skirts.

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ffxiv.ariyala.com/19NS0

If you did 10k damage in 20 seconds, it stands to reason you're not gonna do 10 fucking k damage in 10 seconds, unless you were having a stroke in the 20 second one.

>Can't you
a-user?

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You're only just complaining about old level caps getting thrown out of balance? Seriously?

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I hope we get more gloves like the one in the current rdm artifact gear. The kind with the cuff and frills integrated, I mean.

>Having to change how mechanics are dealt with to deal with bad AI
>Still insists the AI isn't the issue

>Why does every XI thread has to compare every aspect of the game to XIV and say that they are better in every way?
I will say, XI's glamour system still completely stomps over XIV's, and the XI devs only implemented it as a response to XIV's glamour system.

Rather than glamouring individual items or the current plates system, you basically created a free-form gearset in XI (which you could mix'n'match any armor from any class) and just lock to your style. Done. No fucking around, no having to be in a town/housing-area to do it, no fucking prisms needed.

>want to play tank
>keep getting shit DPS
I should just stick to DPS for life.

So when I get Riddle of Wind on Monk, do I always want to use Fists of Wind over Fists of Fire or is there some sort of priority trick?

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The job-to-job balance I am, since it's out of fucking whack. Shit like LotA/Syrcus Tower is just the side-effect of overgearing the content due to no iLvl caps set in place other than what that level supports max, which is i135 in 2.X's case.

thanks for at least giving it a shot lil zoom

It was only an example. I pulled those numbers for the sake of the argument, not as if they were actual real numbers from anywhere specific.
I hope you see why you also need faster clear times if you want a brighter color on an arbitrary ranking type.

FoF up to GL3 and then move over to FoW when you're about to hit GL4

There is some autism math, but for basics just start in fire and change to wind during/after your opener

Why is DNC bad?

Shit like syrcus has been a joke forever. tanks can eat most of the enrages thanks to cd's...

This. There are also several ways to keep up your stacks now. (none of them absolutely perfect in a dungeon, most more than serviceable in 8 man shit).

Remember shit like form shit and perfect bally. As well as amat for when the boss does its movie game aoe shit.

It's been a joke ever since 2.4 hit and upped the iLvl cap. Syrcus Tower was built around i70 and half the alliance being afk, not i130.

This is fast even without top food.

They're not partnering me.

Gotcha. Thanks bros.

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You're missing the point, which is a faster clear doesn't necessarily result in higher dps. In fact, a slightly longer clear can result in higher dps if it aligns better with your cooldowns and potions. This is not wow where damage spikes to ridiculous levels at the opener and then slowly falls off with time in which case the faster the kill the higher the dps.

ffxiv.ariyala.com/19SIN

This one is slightly better. Pretty much same set, just changes bracers and earrings. It has less SpS though, but it's still better damage.

it's not the bad job, it's the players that are bad. always partnering the wrong DPS or too busy staring at their viera instead of the fight.

DNC has a 1000 potency AoE by the time they're granted access to a dungeon. Toto-Rak is not ready for a thousand potency AoE.

If you're that desperate you probably should be looking at the oranges the people are getting then and look at what they're doing. Or you're doing everything correct but the other people just have an Eden weapon already and will outdps you by default.

what's with the obsession of clearing new content fast? not even being facetious this is my first mmo and I don't understand most of the end game stuff. I just got to HW and all my top gear from ARR got beat out by merchant armor a couple levels higher than mine, won't the same happen next expansion? I'm just curious as to what the rewards are for clearing these new duties fast

fuck teacakes and fuck mhiggers

WTF i said teacakes not teacakes
teacakes
teacakes
erp is for teacakes

Did they finally filter trannies?

If one was born male, he would have dreams of being the strongest man alive.

but that's just a feather. not the whole bird

>you're always going to deal the same amount of total damage, the only thing that changes is the time of the kill
Galaxy brain

Having two dancers in your party is literally slower than doing trusts holy fucking shit.

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so why do all you faggots play catsluts then

I got all excited for a moment.

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>double DNC
>ninja x dancer
guess ill take it slow

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I don't. I main a manlet hyur who's a monk

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>it's a barafag dancer episode

>Double DNC
>They both suck ass and partner themselves

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Rewriting the ARR quests to fade out the whole thing about BRDs singing songs that inspired soldiers. They really should just transition to Ranger.

Job lore was so much better in XI, blue mages were cool as fuck and not street magicians. I'll never forget doing my RDM AF quest too, a red mage ghost barreling out of a church ready to smack some shit.

DNC AoE is kinda decent tho

>It's a femlala dancer episode
cute

>transition

TRIGGERED

It's nothing compared to the big AoE hitters.

ff11 was a minimalist mmo due to ps2 hard drives. intresting design space

I played 11 on eden priv server this year and was the only blue mage tank on the server. people had no clue what the class was capable of thanks to a variety of bugs. I was able to swap spell sets mid combat (aka write custom stances) it was sick

ff5 aesthetic best tho, I dont like the especially arab look in 11, that should be mystic knight's shtick. I do like the lore of the ff11 blue mage. who knew that blu and psion were the same class all these years?

>it's a Bartz glamour episode

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>ff11 was a minimalist mmo due to ps2 hard drives.
What does that have to do with anything? A PS2 was more powerful than your average PC running an MMO at that time, and XI was one of the best looking MMOs for its first few years.
Even WoW looked dated in comparison when it finally came out

>people actually parse dungeons
what the fuck is wrong with you people it's a dungeon it's for leveling and gear it's not something that dps matters in only clearing

this. why even play dancer? Every other job is fine with any other job in party.

>all the monks DEMANDING the gear because they are the highest dps
This is why you deserved to be in the shed since hw, dumb nigger assholes

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>caring enough to take time to alt tab the game so you can close your act which is just always on by defualt
Yeah, no.

Those big hitters being?

NIN is just behind SAM at 95th percentile, it's only at 50th or 99th that it's actually low and even at 99th it's still above rdm, mch, and dnc

hoes mad big fisting dps rolling through bitch.

I'm still top dps in my static as BLM even though we have a MNK so the gear is still all mine. Thank god.

FUCK I can’t even hold all of this soul

BLM

>got my indigo summer top dyed dalmud red, black falconer bottoms, and some raptor skin shoes
What bracelets should I glam on

That's not saying much since SAM is shit.

Please don't confuse true comfy MNKbros with bandwagoning parseniggers

Thank you

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Remember when SMN would usually be listed among those aoe big hitters. What went wrong?

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LOL WUT

The ffxi lighting engine consists of making things go dark or light. It was the most basic shit you can get in 3d its fucking Gouraud shading and prebacked lighting in the world, and in the textures, yes ffxi textures are some real works of low rez art. Ff14 is missing all of the baked texture shading because it has a way more advanced lighting engine BUT they are still great works, they might even have the same people doing the ff14 textures cause they are very impressive.

It's 4th rdps, it's an awkward middle child for sure but like I said it's no rdm, mch, or dnc, those are your bottom 3 rdps

Yoshi decided SMN had to be the poorman's BLM in all things.

XIV fails hard in both textures and map design, while the textures are not bad they don't do a good job of melding them together throughout an area so nothing really looks like it's part of a scene, rather a bunch of individual pieces tossed together. The same goes for map design, ARR zones are decent but everything beyond that is fucking disgracefully lazy, just go look at how much detail is in random ARR zones and then how little effort they put into ShB areas.\

It also doesn't help that like 60% of FFXIVs monster models and a large amount of gear/item models are ripped from XI.

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Is anyone having fun playing Bard? Something fells off for me.

That's a pirate outfit, not a red mage. I'm not sure why they made red mage look like they should be out there chasing peter pan instead of styling on nerds. Hell they didn't even let the job play ANY role in SB, it's not even in the trailer.

Would anyone honestly be happy to see TA removed and nin turned into just another dps? The same people who complain about the low damage and arthritis opener are the same people who would later complain that "they're homogenizing the classes!". Theres no winning.

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Tips on playing SCH? Never healed before and it's already 80 due to SMN.

I'm enjoying it. Feels alot more reactive than most classes and unique next to the usual 1-2-3 combo classes.

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is there a pri server of ffxi that is actually alive? try eden while ago, it's like playing with a bunch of bots. soloing to 20 is already too much for me even without grinding sj

You are blind, my dude. Not being able to see differences between things is actually a sign of autism.

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SMN was poorman's BLM in SB

TA is a balancing nightmare, either it's too strong and thye must be in all parties like SB or all their attacks get neutered to try to balance TA and it just ends up making them bad all around like ShB. It's just easier to remove it and buff everything they can do.

I hope you like PVP NIN. Because this NIN's fate.
>opener is too hard for California cuck with 300ms
Please understand

>never played x class
>jumping straight to 80
>never healed before
oof. Being a good healer is a bit of a learning experience, that and getting a feel for how you wanna bind your skills over time.
I suggest starting on some low level content before doing ANYTHING at level 80 as a healer.

>a large amount of gear/item models are ripped from XI
I wish, but this isn't remotely true.

WHITE AND BLUE
ASSCAPE
CIRCLET
How could other jobs compete
Actually the all suck, monk and dancer being the most decent ones

>Create new "Advanced Job" section, put BLU in there (maybe eventually Geomancer and Beastmaster)
>Unlike other jobs you obviously don't get every skill given to you, so to counter this there are baseline skill limits in order to use BLU in content
>If you have 20 slots on your spellbar lets say at level 50 you'd be required to slot in 6 specific ones, to show that you have at least the minimum to be useful, and the rest are up to you to tailor your job in one way or the other
>Perhaps allow BLU to play 2 or even 3 of the trinity roles, using the above system to make sure people have the baseline requirements down (Absolutely need mighty guard selected to queue as tank, etc)
>Now average players can be average with the basic forced skills, but good players will have a full spellbook and can design their job exactly how they want it

I think the problem here is they don't want people to just run around using water spout until level 80 because they are trolling or retarded, what they are forgetting though is that even on normal jobs just because you force people to have skills and abilities it doesn't mean they know what the fuck they are doing with them. It's not hard to fix blue mage and make it a normal job, they are just being lazy about it.

And it's still now in SHB. I suspect it will keep being to the day Yoshi quits his job.

I don't give a fuck about ta or my damage, just remove all the double weaving
NUKE CALI

ARR maps on another level compared to the rest of the expansions that is very true, the amount of detail in them is quite good and exquisite. They essentially made a trade off in the expansions, detail went out the window because the maps now tend to be huge and have to accommodate the flying mounts on an engine not designed to show huge amounts of detail all at once when high up in the air. Its kinda underwhelmed me because when i started playing the ARR really sold me the game.

>Perhaps allow BLU to play 2 or even 3 of the trinity roles
I wish this fucking meme would end. It's exactly what got us into this fucking mess in the first place. FFXI is the only fucking game where BLU is a swiss army knife job that can fill multiple roles, and honestly that goes for several jobs in XI. Just leave it as a support caster so the job can be properly fucking designed.

I'm not understanding what you're saying... It's been a long time since I played retail and even longer since zilart.

I really think the only way to play xi private server is with a group of dedicated players. As long as you can keep yourself on the low end of the spectrum I'll play with any 5 others. I've got a busy schedule so I could maybe do a couple nights a week in pst

For pugs you need to win rolls
>only one chance per week
>you can roll everything or nothing
>if you roll nothing all you get is 1 part of gear
>you need 4-8 parts for one gear
>5.1 in October will make your gear irrelevant

>CA
>shit ping
is this a serverside issue or are you trying to say that Californians have bad internet connections because I live here in clown land and that's not true.

>Take the DOT attack out of your combo
>Delete Mug
>Replace Mug with an instant off gcd dot attack
>Give Ninja the ability to use Hide like Vanish in WoW and fuck off with Suiton

I'm tired of having to bind 3 things to every key, we don't need THAT many buttons to hit

What material should I be using as SCH

>I want more summons!
>Here your Phoenix, bro
>Nah I'm still poorman's BLM! Make me OP!
SMNs can't stop bitching for sure.

I like people to pull their own weight.

materia fuck

Got MNK to level 78.
What's this about Anatman?

Those are more alike than they are different, XIV's is pretty clearly patterned after XI's no matter how you slice it.

Used for keeping GL up for very long stretches of inactivity, typically boss phase-changes.

Tiger lily :)

If you could pick any three jobs to fill the roles in xiv, what would they be?

>DPS: Arithmage
>Healer:Chemist
>Tank:Mime

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all i‘m saying is i want to play ffxi but no friends to play with, turns out it's too difficult guess i should let go

>Arithmage
That's Arcanist

i'm talking about the anatman opener

>playing Dancer
>all these DNC hate posts

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It's not exactly difficult to do, they already had tanks with two stances prior to 5.0, mighty guard in itself pretty much does everything it needs to do. If you're going to have blue mage and give them 100 spells to learn it's kinda pointless to limit them to just being a caster dps, everyone will use the exact same 20 skills and all the rest will never see the light of day. When you have that many options for abilities it's not hard to put in both tanking and casting ones then adding in limitations to split the book partially (x spell requiring mighty guard to be active to use and so forth).

Last I checked it's praying Yoshida grants you a server-tick for a free GL stack that doesn't take 3 seconds with Anatman and then proceeding on with the rest of your opener

oh for fuck sakes.
is it necessary? god damn it that just sounds janky as fuck.

Im enjoying DNC, its simple but fun. Just make sure you partner with the right nigger.

I always partner with a black mage or just the other DPS if in a dungeons.

I'm only 67

>If you're going to have blue mage and give them 100 spells to learn
This is another meme that got us in the limited job mess and also needs to fuck off. Again, XI was the only game where BLU had a gigantic fuck off list of spells to choose from. And again, that was the case for several jobs in XI including BLM, WHM, SMN, and SCH that currently aren't having their gameplay raped by trying desperately to shove XI's systems into a game where they don't belong. I loved FFXI, it's my favorite game of all time, and BLU is my favorite job in that game, but XIV is a different game and the jobs need to be fucking designed for XIV.

It's janky as fuck, yeah. It's not a strict necessity and Anatman is generally going to be more useful for its intended purpose of keeping your existing stacks up than it is for the hyper-optimized free stack.

discord.gg/uAtyPz
sign up and I'll try to find more people

Good. Your class is bad and you should feel bad. Now play a healer. ANY healer, queue times are fucked.

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Is this game worth getting into?
I'm highly considering buying it, but Im scared it won't be worth the monthly fee.
Also, if I do start playing, when should I buy the expansion?

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DPS: Vampire
Healer: Exorcist
Tank: We already have DRK so I don't know what's edgy that can go here.

Pick one.

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>DPS: Scrap Summoner, introduce it as its own job focused around demi-primals and high-MP AoE spells using the ACN staff from 1.X (they teased this in Stormblood's job-quests even), make Arcanist branch off into Scholar and Necromancer with NCR reprising the poison-mage gameplay
>Healer: Not really anything left for recurring jobs that could feasibly heal but Chemist and Geomancer, they had to take enough liberties with Time Mage that it ended up becoming Astrologian. CHM or GEO
>Four tanks is good

>nin since forever
a-at least I don't have to lb on sam or monk

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wow had seamless continents without load screens and a z axis. Dont pretend 11 was a major technical achievement, the only thing it really did that was innovative was break the language barrier. Take minimalism out of the picture and WoW shits on 11

What would vampire even be? The only (slightly) final fantasy that has vampire that I personally know of would be bravely and that was just a Blue Mage.

y'know. you don't have to subscribe more than a month and there's a free trial.

Blue-raspberry DRG master race

Go all in and buy the complete edition. Why? Because the beginning of the game is such a slog you'll probably drop it if your not a little invested (financially).
Also judging by that astolfo pic, you'll fit right in.

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>2 star food keeps selling faster than I can fucking craft it
>end up doing nothing but crafting food in front of the retainer bell and listing it up for sell
How am I supposed to find time to craft potions like this?

I'm not sure what you're so afraid of, it's not hard to fix blue mage to be a normal job in XIV. They already have the abilities, gear, and content, they just need to do a balancing pass and fix cast times/potency and you're good to go. Their main fear is obviously that the job doesn't hold peoples hands and they are terrified of taking that next step, but again it's very simple to add in a few spellbook checks along the way, not rocket science here.

If they simply make it a caster DPS then they might as well not even bother, what's the point of going through all the trouble of making a blue mage job if it's just a weaker black mage? one that has an extra 40 spells in it's arsenal that are never used. You have more than enough abilities to pick from and enough leeway to give blu what it needs to fill a melee physical dps, ranged magical dps, and even tank roles.

I like how the dnc icon is just a hentai womb tattoo.

I can tell what every icon is supposed to represent except for Scholar

FREE TRIAL
NO TIME LIMIT
LEVEL CAP OF 35
FOR ALL CLASSES
THAT'S SO MUCH CONTENT HOLY SHTI

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Does crit effect heals as well? Because then like almost every class crit would get priority.

>it's not hard to fix blue mage to be a normal job in XIV
No, I agree. The problem is that they're trying to force in the FFXI style BLU with its massive spell list and potential to fill any role when that is not BLU's fucking identity and it is not required. Trying to fulfill that very specific fantasy is what made it end up as a limited job in the first place.
>what's the point of going through all the trouble of making a blue mage job if it's just a weaker black mage?
With that fucking logic, why do we have more than 8 jobs at all? Why add DNC if it's a weaker BRD? Why add RDM if it's a weaker BLM? Why add DRK if it's a weaker PLD? BLU in past games is typically a support caster with slightly more of a focus on melee than RDM.

Scholar is their little round eyeglasses

>Warrior of Light, I'm Miqo'te

You won me over with baneposting, I hate myself.

I don't get it why isn't Hide just a OGCD you use in-combat to apply TA. I'm a Ninja, why must I do gay water magic to stab people from behind?

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Glasses and a scroll. Some of the job icons actually represent two things, like DRG being both a dragon head and a spear thrusting downwards, and MNK being both a claw strike and a fist coming toward you (three lines are the lines between your knuckles)

>Just clearing Titania

Lol NA.

>Tell me about the asciens, why do they wear the mask?

ShB was kino but now it's time for the boring as fuck 2 year filler between Expacs. the real chad move? let you sub run out now. resub a month before the next expac drops, catch up on msq and take in whatever kino they have for you up until 6.1.

it's what i've been doing since HW and it's the best way to play this game

>Try to get my second clear on E1S
>"Hurr why aren't you following the basic strat?! Trap party I'm out!"
It's all so tiresome...

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>With that fucking logic, why do we have more than 8 jobs at all?
Because they play differently, each job also has an ability list considerably smaller than what BLU has even at level 50. If you're not going to take advantage of the diversity BLU has in it's massive spellbook potential then why not just cut out all but about 10 skills? If you're going to cut the job down to 10 skills then why even have it be a Blue Mage to begin with, just make it something else.

The point here is that if you're going to do it, do it right and make it fun. Right now in XIV the fun is kinda there but they are afraid of a few silly things and wont take the next step. BLU doesn't have to be a top 1% perfectly balanced top tier raiding job, it just has to be usable in content so people can fucking play it.

t.SAMlet

It's viable to level just one and make money if you know what to sell. You just won't making insane house money quickly.

If I'm feeling lazy, I generally focus on selling mats for other classes which is always a consistent profit.
CUL and ALC will always make fairly easy end-game sales as well since raiders will always need food/pots.
If you have spare leves, I do recommend getting other classes up to 50 which isn't that bad if you just pick one leve and craft a bunch of items for it since cross-class skills are useful even at 80.

And don't be afraid to go visit other servers in your DC if the prices for mats are high, I've found good deals pursuing around and using Mogboard.

Just follow the guides so everyone is on the same page, stop thinking.

Depends, you QT?

maybe

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Are you seriously avatarfagging in fucking Yea Forums?

It's so simple to fix but they haven't done it, I wish I understood why

If I have all crafters at 80, is there an advantage to using specialists? I never bothered with this crap.

okay laborz is me keep me updated

>Because they play differently
Yes, and BLU could still be fun and still be a BLU without a gigantic list of filler and gimmick spells.
>If you're not going to take advantage of the diversity BLU has in it's massive spellbook potential
Because it's not fucking needed and it complicates things way more than it should be. BLU's identity in the series isn't about having a giant list of spells and doing everything, it's using monster spells in a support capacity.

specialist makes things alot easier

Why would you expect any less from a fateshitter? Anyone posting that facebook-tier trap needs to go the back to their discord.

anyone else interested in finding a private server to do a leveling/content group please see the reply chain.

Specialists give you access to special abilities and some passives that make it a lot easier to make HQ items. While I wouldn't say you NEED it, it does help a lot. I haven't really been using the whistle mechanic at 80 crafting though but initial preparations is a skill I use a lot, it basically acts as a booster for inner quiet stacks.

Just a coincidence that I landed on 2 Astolfo pictures in a row

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That's a very vague response. I'll take it it's fucking useless then.

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Bros which should I be leveling?

I'm leveling a SMN/SCH just for the role quest. in the Crystarium so that's a given. Aside from that, which job should I continue leveling next? I don't even know why I leveled a BRD and MCH. I like melee the most but I hate Ninja now because of my 100+ ping. DNC I don't udnerstand why I also leveled that.

So basically which among them is the most fun?

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>BLU's identity in the series isn't about having a giant list of spells and doing everything
Except that's exactly what it is, you have a giant list of spells and the fun comes from finding weird and interesting combinations to do wacky shit with. Obviously FFXIV is a much more controlled and sterilized game compared to others but BLU still has more than enough room to work with and be interesting, it by no means should be whittled down to a cookie cutter normal job that is BLU in name only.

Literally level what you want to.

No reason to not follow macro

>Except that's exactly what it is
Play a game besides FFXI, because that is not the case in any other fucking game.

Pick something from the not pictured left column.

If you're asking us then none of them. Try a tank.

>initial preparations is a skill I use a lot
"May reduce CP consumption while status is active." doesn't seem all that great. Especially when I already have enough CP to craft HQ 2 star 70 dur with no HQ mats. I guess it can give me a free reuse but "may" doesn't sound very trustworthy.

>game introduces dialogue choices
>instead of picking an option and immediately reading the result, you have to watch your robotic character convulse his "answer" for five seconds first
Why? Why not make it like Zelda or Fire Emblem where it's instant? This is so cringy.

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If QT: If you're just starting and want the full experience, get it. It's well worth the monthly price if you're looking for something to occupy your time.

Keep in mind it's basically a single player game with MMO aspects to it, so if you're playing with friends they can't help you with story quest. But they can help you with dungeons.

If not QT: Just buy it and get two jump potions, the current expansion is the best it's been for awhile now.

Have you played any other FF game with blue mage in it? They've always had a wide variety of spells and were never locked down to being just one thing. Red Mage got fucked over hard in XIV and there is no excuse to repeat that mistake again with BLU, it always has and still does have more than enough content to work with to be more than a basic caster DPS that wears a blue outfit.

Vampire is the dark blue mage

Vincent valentine was the first major final fantasy vampire ( secret of mana had them first) his limit break is quite similar to Gau's rage. Gau rage, ronso rage, back to blue mage, and share the jump bit.

>filler
>Nier Automata collab
Your loss I guess

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>Have you played any other FF game with blue mage in it?
All of them, many times.
>They've always had a wide variety of spells
No they don't, not any more than any other mage. Go look up the spell lists.
>Red Mage got fucked over hard in XIV
RDM's implementation is perfect though. It has every iconic aspect of the job even down to using white magic to support the party and potentially fill in as a shitty healer. Are you the guy that seethes because they can't cast Poison?

It's not just that, initial preparations lets you use a few other skills, one that boosts your inner quiet stack by 3 which is nice for getting HQ quickly. The other two are like insurance in case you fuck up your combo or some shit.

This is a MMO. They try to show the player character as much as possible because that's what majority of the players want to see. Why do you think every fantasy MMO makes you "the chosen one"

BLU, unironically

This

red mage is my favorite ff class, thinking of checking out this game, are they any good?

I know you have to level up a bunch to unlock them, what's a good starting class, summoner?

They should add more dialogues and possible routes/different ending. XIV is like TORtanic. We need full powered singleplayer experience for MSQ

Nobody knows because nobody really cares about parsing dungeons, plus, if your timer is set in a certain way and the tank is pulling fast, the mob parse will carry on to the boss parse, giving incorrect numbers.

whats a QT?

>red mage is my favorite ff class, thinking of checking out this game, are they any good?
They're a very safe job with a simple playstyle but low damage potential. The simple rotation along with nearly infinite instant raises makes them good for progression and for carrying retards through content.

>dark blue mage
Is that just a blue mage but with edgy visuals or is there an actual difference?

Man the grass textures look like ass holy shit

q tee = cutey

RDM is a much more relaxed and less damaging Black Mage with the ability to res and heal party members, they do their job as a combination of black and white mage with some melee capability admirably. They don't have anything resembling an actual rotation because of procs and the way their job-gauge works, so they don't take much thinking to perform well. You have to level up to 50, but like Samurai (also introduced in Stormblood) there's no requirement beyond the level.

It's fun I guess. Nothing complex or anything and you won't do too much dps but you have some nice utility. Unless you're braindead retarded you can't mess it up so it's perfect if you just want to take it easy and relax a bit.

nah not really, "vampire" as an actual job is just bravely default's equivalent to blue mage, think valkyrie and dragoon

Physically attractive.

just using FF5 as an example. blue mage only has about 12 more spells than red mage

and yet in ff14 they retooled red mage to make sense with the holoy trinity design, while blue mage instead of just being a buff/debuff focused caster that can goblin punch (since those are the only blue magic spells that are any good outside of stuff that's just black magic you get early like beta in ff7) they decided it needs t obe some epic do everything class that has to be thrown into a ghetto because they could just level 5 death every boss

but then they made all the bosses immune to the especially broken blue magic spells in ff14 anyway, because this game is designed by and for retards that love gear treadmills

When Yoship said he wanted ARR to learn from the MMOs of his day he meant it. That meant an actual endgame, more transparency with customers and a predictable and short update schedule(though there was that bit in HW 3.1)
I very much doubt he'd copy off tor, especially now that tor itself has been pushing grindy endgame shit (well, last I played was kotet so I dunno whats changed)

we need Cat Master from BD

>default's equivalent to blue mage
Well that's what I said.

retired nin thank you

>DPS: Magneto
>DPS: Emma Frost
>Healer:Mr Sinister
>Tank: Juggernaut
I don't care if those aren't technically "classes", just make it happen.

FF11 had vertical maps with multiple floors. Seamless didn't mean much in WoW's case where you were generally funneled to enter via very specific openings in the road, with the rest of the environment conveniently walled off. WoW was also visually worse than XI which was part of its trade-off for said stitched-together environments.

The only 'innovative' thing WoW did (for better for worse) was destroy the notion of team-orientated leveling in MMOs and instead focusing on fetch quests.

You're just talking out of your ass at this point, you haven't played any of the other games. Blue mages have always had aspects of every "role" in the games they are a part of through their diverse spell list, they aren't just a dps, tank, healer, wacky doom/death machine, they have it all, more than any other one job.

>RDM's implementation is perfect though. It has every iconic aspect of the job even down to using white magic
>Has one heal that is extremely weak and not even worth a GCD to use
>Has no Debuffs
>Has no buffs, status removals, or support spells
>Has but one very strict melee combo rather than being a mixture of magic and melee
>Nothing along the lines of break, teleport, confuse, dispel, silence/stun, sleep, dots of any kind, and so on

XIVs red mage is really the least red it's ever been.

Are there any unviable classes?
I'm having a hard time making my first character.

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No. Usually when people say a job is unviable they're shit-eaters that think the meta for speedruns dictates the game's balance and not the other way around.

Isn't RDM literally the worst dps right now?

Everything is viable but certain jobs play like shit, if you're just starting out try Summoner and switch to ninja, most of the starting jobs are boring as fuck to play.

Black mage is also a good starting job.

>Has no Debuffs
>Has no buffs, status removals, or support spells

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Well ShB was very immersive. Phasing is great thing for quests

I knew it, you are the poison autist.
>You're just talking out of your ass at this point, you haven't played any of the other games. Blue mages have always had aspects of every "role" in the games they are a part of through their diverse spell list, they aren't just a dps, tank, healer, wacky doom/death machine, they have it all, more than any other one job.
No, wrong. All wrong. You have some fucked up headcanon of how BLU was in those games and you're wrong. BLUs did not have giant spell lists outside of XI and every single one of them was a support-oriented damage dealer. They could never do everything. If you're not going to replay the games, at least go look up their spell lists and educate yourself you god damn moron.
>Has one heal that is extremely weak and not even worth a GCD to use
>Has no Debuffs
>Has no buffs, status removals, or support spells
>Has but one very strict melee combo rather than being a mixture of magic and melee
>Nothing along the lines of break, teleport, confuse, dispel, silence/stun, sleep, dots of any kind, and so on
All of this applies to every single mage in XIV. Can you guess why? I'm sure if you give it some thought then you'll figure it out. But either way, RDM's identity is:
>uses white magic
>uses black magic
>uses a sword
>has dualcast

I've always wanted to play as healer in anmmorpg before, should I skip out on a healer character for my first time with FFXIV then?

>try summoner
Why would you wish this one someone?

the devs fucked over bluemage entirely because its so well known that if you aren't playing the meta people will ignore you in groups, in a game where all the content is groups for grear treadmills

No, play whatever you want.

Nah, you can play as Conjurer right off the bat, and it's the only healer you can actually start out as; Scholar requires Arcanist to be lv. 30 and Astrologian requires you own Heavensward and requires you have reached the Heavensward expansion in the main story. White Mage is good.

Only one.

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>Devs didn't bother to homogenize actions per minus and rotation-loop-time across DPS

the traditional blue mage follows more of a battle mage chasis, more often then not relying on the sword (and sometimes a fire arm or spear)

vampires and dark blue mages are more castery, and scarier, and dip more into the territory of the morpher class. Less arms and armor, more sapping life

No, if you want go ahead and try it out, you can switch classes/jobs without consequence, whenever you want, once you reach like, level 10-15 I think. Then you can unlock other classes and swap to them on the fly.

i just got one of those relic weapons, is it worth doing the quests to upgrade it

whats wrong with summoner?

BLM has sleep. Very good spell.

not him but

hahahahahaha

It's closer to Ninja, so i figured.

Maybe depends, the two starting healers are white mage and scholar, I personally find white mage boring as fuck to level and scholar got a lot of it's complexity removed.

You do get way faster queues, if you want to give it a shot though I recommend scholar since it has a little more going on, just keep in mind you're stuck as a dps until you hit 30 so if you want pure healer out of the gate you'd need to go WHM.

You can play every job on a single character, all of the RPG aspects besides leveling and materia have been bled out of this game over the last five years so you don't have to worry about minmaxing towards specific roles

It's not in the speedrun meta so it's literally worthless and unplayable and should be deleted

It's not broken.
Not broken = in shed, bad trash
some user doomposting about SMN in every thread

Only if you REALLY want them for glamours. They are completely useless in terms of stats and are solely for "prestige" and glamour

>entirely
No, being kicked out because you don't have the meta skills is one of several reasons, typically sourced in Blue Mage not learning the way other jobs do. You might not have meta skills, you might not have a lot of skills to begin with (on paper you can kill anything while only knowing Water Cannon), they wanted BLU to fill every role in the trinity to a certain extent (White Wind is an extremely powerful heal when the BLU is at full health or when snapshotted to heal at full health, Mighty Guard & The Look & Diamondback allow you to tank rather well), BLU has instant-death and suicide skills just as legacy skills from previous games and it would've been weird if you couldn't learn them, so on.

devs fucked over blue mage because yoshi p personally hates blue mage

It's got more than six buttons so it's "clunky"

>BLU has instant-death and suicide skills just as legacy skills from previous games and it would've been weird if you couldn't learn them
Haha yeah like what if you couldn't learn Death on BLM or Full Life on WHM or Counter on MNK or what if you couldn't equip everyone weapon on WAR or what if your DRG Jump didn't make you invincible lmfao that would be weird.
And what if they actually tried to force everything about XI's BLU design into a game where it doesn't belong to the point they made it a minigame but then didn't copy the part where FFXI didn't give them the instant kill spells LMFAO that would be weird bro xD

Too many people fucking sleep on Repose and Sleep just because it doesn't do damage. Swiftcast + Sleep/Repose to save a pull gone bad, nyiggah.

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You're focusing in on one word and ignoring the discussion, BLU has always had a very DIVERSE spell list, while it was GIANT in FFXI it may or may not have been as such in other titles, however it was always DIVERSE. If they were to make BLU in XIV a standard black/red mage style caster dps then it would defeat the entire point of having the job in the game in the first place.

Do it right, it's not hard, stop being scared of the casuals not having their hands held.

>Swiftcast + Sleep/Repose to save a pull gone bad, nyiggah
That works for about half a second until the other dps's aoe skill goes off

Haha what if I was a complete faggot about my opinions on BLU it would make me really XD and squee and not make people loathe talking to me

Just give me simpler job armor options sometimes. FFXI Dragoon armor honestly has yet to be topped by any Dragoon shit in XIV. A lot of job armors are way too flashy.

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Stop attacking you twits I'm casting Sleep/Repose

>Tfw started playing 2 months ago
>played SMN all the through ShB
>Can't find any other job fun because I've been corrupted by SMN
Send help

team oriented leveling was shit in ff11 tho. Patroling mobs are cool, camping in a static position is shit and promotes mindlessness, most classes have no buttons or use macros to have no buttons. There is some good gameplay there but the core combat engine needs work. The game did a great job with class fantasy though by making you need nin to DW (or live) need ranger to track stuff ect.

there are good ideas in the game, borne out of its minimalism, but it has a ton of flaws too. That being said im glad i went back and played it for a year on a TAOU server, it was much better than 14

>s-stop it! STOP POINTING OUT WHY MY RATIONALIZATIONS DON'T MAKE SENSE!! WHERE'S THE DOWNVOTE BUTTON?! MODS! MODS!!!!!!! HELP! GET RID OF THIS!! THEY WOULD NEVER FUCKING TALK TO ME LIKE THIS ON MY DISCORD!!!!

>cameltoe armor

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Just glamour dungeon loot or something. There is tons simple outfits

Group leveling was literally the best part of FFXI and the cornerstone for everything that made the game great.

>but moooom I want to play a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game but I want to do it aloooooooooone

Imagine still being a BLU shill in this day and age, all of the excuses you fags use are completely irrelevant because RDM completes the class fantasy just fine despite not being a jack of all trades.

This BLU is the LEAST BLU it's ever been, BLU has never been about collecting an assload of skills, every BLU in every game has had maybe 20-30 skills MAX that they use.

I think the best way to impliment those skills would be as out of combat abilities for dealing with things on a trap/puzzle scale. If blu can randomly one shot bosses ( and reroute the party?) why not dragoons or ninjas on occasion too?

FFXIV designs are simply atrocious. I mean FFXI has some bad stuff too, but XIV is the most edgy, tryhard anime trash armor sets.

XI just feels so comfy in comparison, take the PLD artifact armor set; nice simple and looks like what you think a true knight's armor would look like.

How'd you type this without hating yourself? I'd genuinely get bored half-way through writing that out, or think twice on it before I'd finished.

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yes and no. It built a strong community but it wasnt good gameplay. Keep group leveling, fix the meta to make it inclusive, make combat more intresting and make it so you dont sit at one camp for 2h at a time (15 minutes tops please) and you have a strong core!

group leveling was good design, but dont mistake that for good gameplay

Imagine pretending your opinion on BLU was the sole correct one and putting its XIV treatment on the same level as if Yoshida killed your family and raped your dog

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Hold on. As I understand XI leveling is grinding.
Are you telling me grinding is good way to level? Play L2 then

>camping in a static position is shit and promotes mindlessness
If you were in a shit party with slow kill speed and mobs would respawn before you're done with the current one, sure. Nomadic groups that wandered around a general sized area were a sign of good killings

Damn sister you are SO above it all

My power went out in the middle of a boss fight earlier and it's been out for 6 hours now I just wanna be done with 2.2

more like a sign that the good camps are full

when the game was less solved maybe that happened, but these days things are far more optimal. Everyone eats food now

>Imagine pretendi--

I'm not pretending shit fag, your entire argument is that this is the best way they could have added in BLU while keeping it's class fantasy in tact.

When BLU has never played or worked this way before and it goes against how the job has been traditionally throughout the series.
Which is the exact opposite of what they said their reason for limiting it was.

All that Yoshi cock must be fucking with your reading comprehension.

the highest dps parties are all black mages who dont want to move as well (though they tend to avoid sustained encounters so they dont need a tank)

part of my issue with ff11 is level sync too, where many people would take a job 1-50 in the dunes so they didnt need to collect more gear. Hunting a rare drop is kind of immersive and kind of aids, i was on a rather small server so I cant imagine that design scaling well (and hearing about how jp latency effected camping in the old days is sad)

desu i only left when the server admin banned AoEing down full zones

Yeah I loved FF11's equipment designs. Even the highest end, flashiest weapons and armor still looked relatively utilitarian. The low level stuff in 14 looks good but the problem is we aren't getting any more of it, all the new equipment they add has to be as ridiculous as the current armor people wear.

Masked Carnivale COULD have been side content for all jobs to implement wacky skills in a puzzle sense like WHMs being able to nuke undead enemies with healing magic or MNK having its old counter system

How oh how did I know you'd cap the post off with whining about Yoshida boot-licking?

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I'd imagine it's because people can easily smell Yoshida's taint on your breath and call you out on it constantly

I'm thinking about trying NIN, but I heard it was in the shed. What's wrong with it?

Not an argument, if you wanna shitpost at me all day go for it, I know no actual serious human being would defend BLU.

I think it's same insane XI BLUfag from others XIV threads

BLU always devolves into shitflinging and accusations of Yoshida worship for any opinion short of I HATE IT THERE IS L I T E R A L L Y NO REASON FOR IT TO BE LIMITED, it's fucking annoying because it happens at the same hours of the night. Daytime's free of it, very early-morning is usually free of it.

>If he dislikes us missing real meaningful content for a gloried two day grindfest he must be a XI BLUfag!

I didn't think BLUposting would cause this much butthurt

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