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Most influential FPS games ever
>number 1 slot
>being fucking COD anything
>Not being Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Quake, Duke, or Half-Life
What faggot made this list?
couldnt even get the year right
>2008
pretty sure it was 2007
> PC drones are delusional faggots
Every time
I have only played Call of Duty 2 and 4, none others, AMA
1) doom - grandaddy of fps games
2) quake - grandaddy of multiplayer fps
3) half-life - daddy of story based fps
4) halo - daddy of console multiplayer fps
5) cod:mw - daddy of shitty modern fps gameplay that still pervades modern fps games
this is objectively true, and if you disagree you're wrong.
This is the most influential FPS ever made.
You realize literally all of those were on consoles too right you dumb fucking faggot?
Also are you so fucking delusional that you think the five fathers of the FPS genre are somehow less influential than a fucking COD game?
CoD4 was popular but not revolutionary at all
Why did it irreversibly change FPS trends that are still being adhered to this very day, then?
Cope more, Doom is literal who tier. Normies don’t know what it is, therefore it cannot be most influential
maybe, but that's not a good thing. being "influential" usually just means it spawned a bunch of soulless clones made by people who saw something successful and sought to emulate the bullet points in hopes of catching some of that success for themselves. i think Doom was probably more influential than CoD4 though
Because it made a lot of money you stupid retard.
Why people don’t realize that literally the only reason cod became popular was because of the toxic/funny community??
You fuckers think it’s good because it’s educational??
>3) half-life - daddy of story based fps
Wasn't that GoldenEye?
Game developers do know about Doom and they make games, faggot.
>Normies don’t know what it is, therefore it cannot be most influential
I can tell you're baiting because someone this stupid wouldn't even be able to turn on a computer, let alone operate one.
When did baiting just become being an overt complete retard in hopes that someone will also be a retard back to you?
Theres no art to it anymore. No finesse. Its just who can say the dumbest thing possible now.
But how can be this is not release yet?
Nobody fucking gives a shit about Doom, PC gaming was irrelevant & it’s popularity was never even close to console gaming. Valve & Blizzard shit are the only PC games from that era that normies ever talk about outside this board
Halo already started it years before
influential isn't synonymous with "good" you angsty moron. just because cod is shit doesn't mean it wasn't influential. i hate people with low IQ
You understand that Quake code can still be found in Call of Duty to this day right?
This is probably bait but in case it isn't; what the normies think doesn't matter for shit. What matters is how it influences the genre. Doom defined many parts of the FPS genre.
COD IS NOT MORE INFLUENTIAL THAN FUCKING DOOM.
DOOM.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUCKING DOOM HERE RETARD.
FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS USED TO BE CALLED DOOM CLONES. THAT WAS THEIR GENRE. DOOM CLONES.
BECAUSE OF DOOM.
Seethe more, it’s forgotten literal who tier
> youtu.be
a zoomer probably
>youtuber zoomers dont know about it so that somehow invalidates the fact that it singlehandedly popularized the entire FPS genre and for nary a decade they were called "Doom clones" specifically because of just how huge and important Doom was
You know Doom was installed on more computers than the Windows OS was at one point in time, right?
It wouldn't even exist without Doom and Wolfenstein, you worthless zoomer nintenfaggot filth.
You are now thinking about how you are going to have dead parents some day.
Kill yourself
Zoomers are dumb news at 11
>Wasn't that GoldenEye?
I suppose you could make an argument for that, but I'm not super concerned with what came first or anything like that, more interested in what fps games had the most influence on future titles. I think most games that aimed to create an fps game with a heavy narrative element were mimicking Half-Life, not GoldenEye.
If anything System Shock could be considered the true grandaddy of story based fps games but it's barely a shooter desu.
Keep crying
> 1. COD4
> 2. HL2
> 3. Halo
> 4. Deus Ex
> 5. Half-Life
> 6. GoldenEye
> 7. Quake
> 8. Doom
> 9. Wolfenstein 3D
>HL2
>Influential
No FPS game can objectively be more influential than Doom, or Quake. Thats not even a matter of opinion, there are statistics and emprical objective evidence that prove it.
So it's influential
>Not Halo, Doom, Wolfenstein, Quake or Half-life on first place
Shit list
The absolute state of Nintendies.
Who the fuck keeps making these stupid lists and who the fuck keeps posting them here? I swear every day there's a new one and it's the same site becaise ir has the same setup.
Take your own life.
But not revolutionary. It didnt do anything revolutionary.
They're not wrong. It's a game that literally changed the industry. Though CoD4 was from 2007.
Nintendies love DOOM.
They are wrong for putting it in the number 1 slot.
> Still spamming wikipedia articles from 30 years ago as if that means anything to people who weren’t PC Drones at the time. Aka: Anyone who isn’t a boomer
Elvis was popular back in the day, nobody gives a shit about him now & the average person doesn’t know who he is aside from “Fat guy who died on the toilet”. The fact that you faggots spam the exact same comments copied from Wikipedia every single time proves how irrelevant it is in the 21st Century
How much of a faggot do you have to be in thinking EVERY CoD game is shit
in no order
DOOM
Quake
Halo
Goldeneye
CoD 2
CoD MW
DayZ? Whatever one takes credit for BRs, Arma I guess but really the game Arma itself has very little to do with the influence on other games.
>COD (and almost every single 3D shooter ever made) is literally built off the engine of id’s previous landmark FPS release.
>I’d isn't influential
Fucking new Americans and their sub-90 iq OUT OUT OUT
First: Influence doesnt "expire", if something was influential, it no longer being as popular doesnt somehow retroactively invalidate their prior influence.
Second: Doom still has an incredibly massive playerbase even to this day and will not die within either of our lifetimes.
Third: You're literally arguing against facts
> Doomfags seething this fucking bad because people don’t care about their literal who garbage
Honestly worse than Sonic & Smashfsgs
>tfw you say "I like the first CoD" people think you're talking about CoD Modern Warfare
In chronological order
Wolfenstein 3D
Doom
System Shock
Duke Nukem 3D
Quake
Goldeneye 007
Unreal
Half Life
Medal of Honor
Halo
Fite me
Pretending old games don't exist and acting like a 2007 game did anything to advance the FPS genre just makes you an idiot
>essentially invents what we know of as the first person shooter
>was so popular that it was installed on more computers than fucking windows
>still supported to this day with a massive playerbase that dwarfs even modern rivals
>for years, any first person shooter game was called a Doom Clone because of how popular and influential Doom was.
CoD4's current playerbase is probably a flatline while Doom is still numbering in the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands nearly three decades later.
>tfw saying you like cod and people think you're talking about video games
>I don't like that Doom literally invented the FPS genre, so I'll call it garbage
Dilate.
Ruined the genre but sure.
No it fucking doesn’t you absolute retard, it literally isn’t even in Steam’s top 100 games. Nobody talks about Doom outside this board, Reddit is the most popular site on the Internet & they don’t give a shit about Doom. They named CoD as their favourite game. Doom is only popular among Boomers who grew up playing nothing except PC games
Doom popularised fps games, while CoD4 affected entire industry beyond it's own genre. CoD4's influence is much bigger.
It gets ported to everything.
>No it fucking doesn’t you absolute retard
Yes it does
>it literally isn’t even in Steam’s top 100 games
Nigga nobody plays Doom on dosbox thats why you dumb faggot, everyone uses the GZDoom sourceport which isnt on Steam.
>Nobody talks about Doom outside this board
>what is Doomworld
>Reddit
You're wrong, there are quite a few Doom boards there
> implying a literal who game from 30 years ago that nobody cares about is more popular or influential on global society than a 16 Billion dollar franchise & one of the most recognizable figures in the entire world. Simply because of spamming the same Wikipedia article about “Le Influence”
>Ruined the genre
This is 100% accurate
I prefer Doom any day, but what Doom did was inevitable. Doom was such a basic design that FPS were going to eventually going to be designed that way. Gun is all you see, aim at monsters and shoot. Then, you add gamey (not a negative thing) themes, which have been done even before Doom, like secrets, health pacts, power ups, and boom, you got doom.
COD 4 on the other hand, literally changed what FPS were deigned as 12 years AFTER it was released with games still copying it. Doom DID NOT have that type of impact for that long. Most games it influenced were shit, but it literally set the standard whether you like it or not
Basically, Doom was inevitable, it was going to happen even if Doom wasn't released.
You're legitimately fucking stupid holy shit.
Doom not only popularized the FPS genre but also was a fucking incredible leap forward in game engine tech. Doom and Quake are both responsible for the fucking tech used on essentially every 3D game released for the past few decades in some capacity, you can still fucking find Quake code in modern CoD releases.
Another World isn't a billion franchise (is not even a franchise) but influenced lots of Japanese developers. We're talking about influence on other games and creators, not commercial success. 40%.
How does one become this deluded and stupid
>I prefer Doom any day, but what Doom did was inevitable. Doom was such a basic design that FPS were going to eventually going to be designed that way. Gun is all you see, aim at monsters and shoot. Then, you add gamey (not a negative thing) themes, which have been done even before Doom, like secrets, health pacts, power ups, and boom, you got doom.
>
Holy shit you're retarded.
The ports sold like absolutely shit. It only sold 9 million copies from 1993 to 2009 despite all of its ports. It’s impossible for it to be anything except literal who tier. All Doom games are on Steam, none of them come close to making the top 100. Japan named Doom last on their best shooters list with Overwatch & COD at the top
Nigga what are you even arguing?
You cant argue that Doom wasnt influential. You cant argue that CoD was more influential. Both of those are wrong.
Without Doom, CoD would not exist, thats fact.
I think this just further proves the point that Doomfags are undoubtedly the worst fandom in all of gaming
No you fucking faggot you're just a god damn contrarian retard who keeps huffing glue like its incense.
Get shit on faggot, you know it's true.
CoD sold more as a franchise than Doom did and ever will. No other games right now besides Doom has it's design and is still popular. CoD's influence is still seen among countless other FPSs
Means nothing, there isn’t a single mainstream popular Doom clone. More people take influence from the more popular game than literal who shit. Everyone copied Half-Life, COD & Halo
>SALES SALES SALES SALES SALES
God you're such a fucking company cuck.
Are the beatles not influential because they havent sold as much as Michael Jacksoon or Justin Bieber?
Is Star Wars not influential because its not the highest grossing movie of all time?
What the fuck is wrong with your brain.
Doom 1, Quake 1 (only Quake IMO), Goldeneye 64, Half-Life 1, and Halo 1 all top off COD4 for being influential.
> Not liking a game series that sold like shit somehow makes me a contrarian
> Being Anything other than a mindless Doom drone is unacceptable
Jesus christ, you faggots really are the worst
and DOS code still exists in Windows, that doesn't mean DOS is more influential
>>Means nothing, there isn’t a single mainstream popular Doom clone
Literally every FPS is currently released is a doom clone.
>Without Doom, CoD would not exist, thats fact.
This is such a dumb fucking argument. FPSs were going to happen, regardless if Doom was developed or not.
The only thing cod influenced was loadouts
Star Wars is highest grossing movie franchise
The Beatles are nowhere near as influential as Michael Jackson
The best selling game franchise is Mario, which is also the most influential game ever.
>b-b-but Nintendo
Sad!
In what fucking reality is selling 10 million copies when games were just a niche backwoods hobby "selling like shit"?
I fucking repeat, you 12 year old dunderhead, that Doom was on more computers than FUCKING WINDOWS.
YOU ARE USING WINDOWS RIGHT NOW.
DOOM WAS ON MORE COMPUTERS THAN FUCKING WINDOWS.
And yes you are being a fucking contrarian you fucking faggot because you are WRONG. Doom is influential, and it is more influential than Call of Duty, thats not something you can fucking argue because it is fact.
Sales + Copy cats = Influence
There are more games influenced off CoD than Doom
>DOOM
Solidified an experimental genre as one of the best ever
>Modern Warfare
Catapulted said genre into a decade-long depression
it wasn't that good desu, even as a young teenager i knew Counter Strike was infinitely better and more influential on the genre, and TF2 was the better FPS in general.
>>and DOS code still exists in Windows, that doesn't mean DOS is more influential
Did you legitimately just say this?
the most influential fps game ever is doom
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Don't sully "successful troll is successful" by granting it to some retard who thinks trolling is literally just shitposting obvious bait and annoying people.
Not goldeneye.
Super Mario Bros made 60 Million by itself
Mortal Kombat came out the same year as Doom & has made over a billion dollars now
StarCraft is a billion dollar franchise
Street Fighter II grossed at least 12 Billion dollars
Final Fantasy VI grossed at least 600 million dollars
Even Chrono Trigger grossed around 300 Million dollars
Doom despite all its ports & Influence spamming couldn’t even get 10 million sales
>normies don’t know what DOOM is
Holy fucking zoomer
m.youtube.com
Video games are literally a normalfag hobby
>Nobody knows it
>Literally two of these little shits knows what it is immediately.
Not even good bait
>The series that simplified an otherwise skillful genre and is why said genre is hated is the most influential FPS
>Not even Doom or Halo
Guess we're getting whatshisname in Smash instead of Doomguy and Chief.
All these wads over the years for nothing.
>moving the goalposts
We're talking about FPS games you fucking faggot and that still has literally fucking nothing to do with the god damn point.
Ignoring for a second you also just compared one single game to the entirety of three franchises, a game that got 80 billion rereleases and was in the arcades.
Excited about crossplay. I have way more friends with xbones for some reason so I can finally play with them and dunk on them with my all-sonychad clan. PC fags getting fucked too
Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VI, Super Mario Bros, Street Fighter II are all individual games not franchises you fucking retard
>best fps ever?!?!?
>its always a game that started out on a modified quake engine
eveyrtime
>doomfags keep crying about how influential the game is
>no arguments to explain how
Hop off the bandwagon, nobody gives a shit about your ancient game
Technically each Final Fantasy number is and also you didnt specify when you said mario retard.
Even fucking then, that has literally fucking nothing to do with what we're talking about AND none of those are FPS games.
Doom changed the entire landscape of video games and basically solidified everything that makes up modern FPS/TPS/Online/PC games to this day.
GoldenEye MP > Halo MP
How about the fact that the FPS genre essentially began because of Doom, it took until awhile after Quake came out for FPS games to stop literally being copies of Doom, and despite that FPS games still use conventions, mechanics, and systems that Doom used even to this day?
in what way? because they are in 1st person? get a brain retard
It took the slowly growing idea of adding Korean MMO grinding to multiplayer FPS and made it a mainstay of the genre virtually overnight
>daddy of shitty modern fps gameplay that still pervades modern fps games
Well then it must've been pretty influential
... I got nothing. This is a level of troll that actually blows the mind.
This thread just further proves how hard boomers choke on the nostalgia cock
>i know literally nothing about video games, video game development, game design, or the history of video games
>but i will talk about it anyway as if i did
Why do you faggots constantly do this?
It’s like watching waifufags defend their favourite anime girl. Fucking pathetic
Then what about CoD4's use conventions, mechanics, and systems that are still used to this day? Oh which, were designed without the influence of Doom. So don't play that bullshit that CoD wouldn't exist without Doom
Maybe, but the cornerstone of console fps games is online multiplayer, which Halo popularized.
Yes, that's why I consider it the 5th most influential fps game ever.
why do you niggers keep replying to this faggot's threads?
For better or worse it is but like clockwork boomers on Yea Forums throw a shitfit over Number 1 not being Doom
wolfenstein was before doom
>Oh which, were designed without the influence of Doom
This is wrong.
I'm a Doomfag, I continue to play WaDs on the regular, but facts are facts. If you can't accept them, then bury your head in the sand even further
>This many people taking this obvious fucking bait
Stop.
Feeding.
The.
Trolls.
this show is older than you.
the entry point for being able to talk about videogames is lower than the mariana trench.
Nobody cares about the history of videogames or how to talk about them in the context of their development and production and worse still they don't care to either.
projecting boomer who lost an argument, classic
Yes tecnically but Doom took it and redefined every aspect of it including a massive technical overhaul.
>a game that ruined fps for the next 10 years
>not influential
Saying doom is influential is the equivalent of saying the first neolithic ape that chiselled a piece of flint is the most influential person ever because it set off a chain of events leading to modern medicine.
Its not as influential as Doom or Quake is my point you illiterate fucking faggot.
What influence from Doom did you see in CoD 4 development? Because literally most FPS game after CoD 4 copied it, not Doom, not Quake, CoD 4
I know, Call of Duty bad, Halo bad, Doom and Quake Good, but still, the path of the industry developed changed massively because of CoD 4 on a much bigger scale than Doom and Quake did
Its more like calling Leonardo DaVinci not influential just because he never actually built that helicopter he designed.
Not really, gameplay is the same as wolfenstein. Wolfenstein is the father of doom
Wouldn’t that comparison be more fitting to Wolfenstein?
Dooms more the first empire that set in motion modern society as we know it.
>Not really, gameplay is the same as wolfenstein
Have you actually ever played Wolfenstein cause no it isnt.
... Deathmatch was pretty much coined by Doom so any derivative of that.
Having multiplayer maps in general was doom
Having online multiplayer if any kind is derivative of Quake.
The fact that CoD still uses an updated Quake 3 engine, so it literally owes its existence to Quake.
>first person
>use 3d vertical enviroments
>have a MP mode with team Deathmatch
guess wich game introduced those sweety :^)
Maybe of the last decade, but of all time? That's bullshit.
yeah, they're literally the same
>Babylon wasnt influential because we have Japan now lol
>Egypt wasnt influential because we have Russia now lol
>Greece wasnt influential because we have Germany now lol
>Rome wasnt influential because we have Italy now lol
>Ancient China wasnt influential because have America now lol
This is the kind of shit logic you faggots are using right now.
It begs the question - does influential mean things outside of gaming as well? I'd say CoD would take the spot, then (it was literally everywhere), but if its just how it affected games that did go on to appeal to huge masses, then yeah, doom
holy shit boomers are legit retarded
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This is objectively the most accurate list
> Most influential games ever
> 1. Super Mario 64 - First major 2D to 3D Transition
> 2. Ocarina Of Time - Created Lock on Targeting, created the modern open world game & contextual sensitive buttons
> 3. Resident Evil - Created the Survival horror genre
> 4. Street Fighter II - Popularized the Fighting Genre
> 5. GoldenEye 007 - Created the modern day Console FPS game
> 6. Final Fantasy VII - Popularized the RPG genre, first major 2D to 3D leap for console RPGs
> 7. Metal Gear Solid - Created the cinematic movie genre that everyone uses now
> 8. Resident Evil 4 - Popularized Quick time events, escort missions & shaped the action adventure genre forever
> 9. Grand Theft Auto III - Popularized the Open World genre, turning gaming into a global monopoly
> 10. Super Metroid - Created the Metroidvania genre
> 11. Half-Life 2 - Popularized linear story driven games told in game as opposed to cutscenes.
> 12. Star Wars: KOTOR - Popularized the Dialogue system that virtually every AAA game uses some variation of now
> 13. SoulCalibur - First console port to be drastically superior to the Arcade version, is responsible for the Arcade industry dying
> 14. Super Mario Bros - Created the gaming industry, without it nothing else on this list would exist & gaming would be dead in North America & Japan
> 15. Halo CE - Created online multiplayer for Console gaming, is responsible for Microsoft creating Xbox Live & subsequently paid online service
The amount of anons falling for bait in this thread
No they arent faggot why are you lying.
>no argument
you tried kiddo :^)
>FPS list
>lists platformers and third person games
You're illiterate AND retarded.
It’s the same doomfags seething every time
> Most influential games ever
> Implying i care about the OP list at all
Cope more retard
learn what influential means mr.reddit and go back
do you know what it means son? ,:^)
barely any doom clones come out these days, so few. look how many cod clones there are. people have moved on from doom
How are they different
The basic design of Deathmatch was even before Doom. Multiplayer in general has been around before Doom. So if you're willing to try and die on that hill, you're going to have a bad time.
But even then. what you're failing to understand is how CoD 4 designed it's own version of their multiplayer that made the influence we see. Yes other games did it before, but those games DID NOT have the influence CoD did. The same can be said about using the Quake engine. Their designed using the Quake engine was more influential than the base Quake engine itself, because more people COPIED CoD 4 engine than quakes.
Basically
Doom set it off, but clearly CoD had a much larger impact
Faggot 12 year old. ALL FPS games were "Doom Clones" after Doom came out, that doesnt mean "2.5D zip-zooping fast level based arcadey shooter", it was a testament of how popular and influential Doom was that any game using its basic conventions were labelled as clones, not just the literal clones.
Half-Life was a Doom clone.
technichly every FPS is a DOOM clone still
Motherfucker have you played them? They're similar obviously, you can see the progression, but they're nowhere near "the same" at all. Game design or tech wise they're wildly different beasts.
>Half-Life was a Doom clone.
Imagine being this fucking delusional, fucking christ you nostalgic fags are horrible
>The basic design of Deathmatch was even before Doom. Multiplayer
can you name any Multiplayer FPS games before DOOM?
Can you read? Do you understand english? Do you comprehend the english language?
Are you ESL?
How did you completely fucking misunderstand my god damn point you utterly incompetent retard.
this
People always say it's Doom, but it's Quake. There wasn't much of Doom left in most FPS games made 5 years after it came out, but here we are almost 25 years after Quake and pretty much every single thing it introduced is still standard in modern FPS. Mouse aim (and by extension dual stick console aim), WASD, 3D acceleration, dedicated multiplayer maps and many of its multiplayer modes, pretty much everything to do with esports, and so on.
dude give up
this guy is simply baiting you
>>>Half-Life was a Doom clone.
>
>Imagine being this fucking delusional, fucking christ you nostalgic fags are horrible
Well it was though. It used a modified Quake engine but Half-Life 1 is very very VERY Doom inspired.
Doom is usually lumped in because of the progression.
Wolf-->Doom-->Quake. Doom and Quake being the most influential of the three, Doom directly popularizing the FPS genre, and Quake being revolutionairy and influential in its technical wizardry.
In terms of actual game content, Quake is more or less the same as Doom but in 3D.
Morons like you are the worse. Should Pong be at the top of every most influencial games ever list because it was so big?
"Not as influential as doom or quake" Modern Warfare resulted in 5 years of fps games being gritty modern shooters, with every fps releasing now taking ques from it.
>b-but muh dooooom
Fuck on off. Influencial does not equal good.
This, basically.
>Influencial does not equal good.
No one said that.
>"Not as influential as doom or quake" Modern Warfare resulted in 5 years of fps games being gritty modern shooters, with every fps releasing now taking ques from it.
Doom and Quake resulted in nearly 30 fucking years of First Person Shooters you god damn retard.
it's DOOM you stupid fuck
Gameplay is slightly different, in doom you need key cards in wolfenstein you just need to find the exit. Exactly the same otherwise. You seem to forget they were made by the same company and wolf was first
IT BEING THE FIRST DOESN'T MAKE IT THE MOST INFLUENTIAL
WHY IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND YOU DUMB MONKEYS?
user again no you're wrong. They're similar yes but in terms of game design and tech design they're wildly different, how are you arguing this?
Look at fucking gameplay on youtube if you have to. Why are you Lying?
And Pong resulted with nearly 5 decades of video games, your point?
Because Doom is what popularized it, thus it was influential, you fucking idiot.
Whats your first language? Fucking Haitian Creole?
kys faggot
So they're both influential, and also significantly more influential than Call of Duty.
Thanks for destroying your own argument and defeating yourself.
>Because Doom is what popularized it, thus it was influential, you fucking idiot.
No one, not one fucking person is saying Doom wasn't influential, what is actually being said is that CoD 4 is more influential because MORE, let me repeat, MORE GAMES, were designed to copy Cod 4 than Doom
You guys literally do not understand the term influence
>>No one, not one fucking person is saying Doom wasn't influential, what is actually being said is that CoD 4 is more influential because MORE, let me repeat, MORE GAMES, were designed to copy Cod 4 than Doom
That is objectively untrue.
>Hurr durr all FPS were designed by Doom so technically....
You're dumb
Theres no technically about it faggot you are literally wrong.
Name all the games that copy CoD and i can name about a thousand more that copied doom.
11 years after Doom release, they made a Doom game that was nothing like Doom.
12 years after CoD4 release, they're making a new CoD game that tries to copy CoD4 because people asked for it so much.
Just think about it for a second.
Almost every single FPS in the last 12 years can point directly at Call of Duty for influence, the same can not be said of Doom in its own timeline. Name some Doom clones and the list will not be as large as COD clones.
Yet everyone acts like it does. Nobody here can give CoD any credit.
What said my mongoloid friend.
All he did is use your own argument to make you look like the retard you are. Doing something "first" doesn't make it the most "influencential". Modern games still rip-off Modern Warfare's mechanics, not general gameplay.
1. Doom
2. CoD4
3. Half life
4. Quake
Doom was the first one to really get fps right
CoD4's influence is still felt today and CoD games are still immensely popular
Half life refined storytelling in fps and jumpstarted the modding scene with CS
Quake popularized the arena shooter and multiplayer fps in general
I put HL and quake behind cod4 because those two aren't that popular or successful anymore, arena shooters have turned into hero shooters and half life died for fucking DOTA card games
>The basic concept of Deathmatch predates Doom
Not really, name a game that had 2v2-8v8 multiplayer sessions in custom multiplayer maps before doom? Unless you’re getting really vague about “Deathmatch”
>CoD did it’s own multiplayer
What did CoD really do that games like Medal of Honor and other CoDs didn’t do before besides killstreaks? Literally every other mode it got from other games.
>More people copied the CoD4 engine than the Quake engine
...nigga, Quake basically invented 3D FPS engines. Literally every mainstream engine nowadays were either directly or descended from the Quake engine.
>Nobody here can give CoD any credit.
I do. It was a quite risky movement to do a modern shooter. Six Days in Fallujah never came to be because of this.
en.wikipedia.org
Here, go through this list of every game after CoD 4
It literally shows it self, but I know you're going to be a delusional faggot and claim otherwise
t. delusional boomer seething that wolfenstein literally created the fps genre
... and Pong is arguably one of the most, if not the most influential game of all time.
Your point?
>>No one, not one fucking person is saying Doom wasn't influential, what is actually being said is that CoD 4 is more influential because MORE, let me repeat, MORE GAMES, were designed to copy Cod 4 than Doom
Ahem.
Duke Nukem 3D. Shadow Warrior. Blood, Redneck Rampage. Quake. Quake 2. Quake 3. Half-Life. Half-Life 2. Unreal Tournament. Hexen. Heretic. Hexen 2. Rise of the Triade. Descent. Strife. Chex Quest, Outlaws. Star Wars Dark Forces. Witchaven. System Shock. System Shock 2. Powerslave. Those weird Terminator games. Tekwar. Turok. Turok 2. Fucking Halo. And thats mainly just the 90s.
Theres even been an uptick in recent ones. Amid Evil, Dusk, Nightmare Reaper, technically Ion Fury/Maiden, etc.
You could go on and on and on and on forever.
>...
leave
You're delusional, what did those games influence? Learn what words mean
thats not what OP is about
Wrong, more games copied wolfenstein 3D.
Also COD4 runs off the Quake engine. You are delusional to think COD is more influential.
>Temporary fad is the same thing as permanent long lasting influence over both an entire genre and the industry as a whole
I hate this place.
Motherfuckers not even the last few CoD games were inspired by MW2. Advanced Warfare, Black Ops 3, Infinite Warfare were ripoffs of Titanfall, WW2 was more CoD 2 and WaW, and Black Ops was fuckin Fortnite.
Even your own SERIES didn’t wanna be Modern Warfare.
Even the new fucking game is trying to be more Battlefield than MW
Becuase we're discussing the most influential FPS not the most influential video game. Your reading comprehension is very poor.
Thats what the faggot here was saying you god damn neanderthal.
Holy fuck why are you people so stupid.
>temporary
Are you genuinely retarded? 12 years later and games still copy CoD4.
Holy fuck what a miniscule list. Someone literally kust posted a wiki link with hundreds of games influenced directly by COD.
And we've been slowly moving away from that trend for the past few years, dipshit.
What's it like having such good taste?
Those were just off the top of my head faggot. A full list would hit the character limit and be incredibly arbitrary.
What a retarded post.
So you admit CoD4 influence is still going 12 years straight after release?
I would just like to remind you that 11 years later and Doom 3 was nothing like Doom. That was it's influence.
What game did aim down sights first?
Honest to god, how many FPS games are really inspired by CoD anymore? If anything it’d reversed with CoD stealing shit from other developers
Seriously, Battlefield is it’s own thing, Apex Legends takes more from Titanfall, PUBG is Arma, Fortnite is it’s own TPS, Overwatch is TF2. Halos going back to its roots
What else is “inspired” by CoD?
So you admit CoD4 influence is still going 12 years straight after release?
Beyond itself and Battlefield not really. We're currently in the trend of fast paced hero shooters.
>>I would just like to remind you that 11 years later and Doom 3 was nothing like Doom. That was it's influence.
What the fuck does this even have to do with the topic you ESL Brazilian?
>Motherfuckers not even the last few CoD games were inspired by MW2. Advanced Warfare, Black Ops 3, Infinite Warfare were ripoffs of Titanfall, WW2 was more CoD 2 and WaW, and Black Ops was fuckin Fortnite.
What a completely useless attempt at an argument. New Call of Duty games weren't influenced by Call of Duty? Embarrassing post.
>CoDs influence really strong after 12 years
It really isn’t, the fact this new CoD is “going back to basics” is seen as a breath of fresh air is proof enough that CoD isn’t as influential nowadays.
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>>I would just like to remind you that 11 years later and Doom 3 was nothing like Doom. That was it's influence
26 years later and Doom Eternal is everything like Doom. Whats your point?
So CoD4 was influenced by CoD 1-3 which in turn were influenced by Quake and used its tech which was also based on Doom.
Good fucking job retard.
>temporary fad
Literal cringe. Have you played a first person shooter released in the last year? Even since ditching the "modern combat" theme (which lasted at least 5 years, arguably ongoing) fps games that release today still have many of its core gameplay features.
>b-b-but doom invented fps, that means its the bestest!
(You)
>I hate this place
Off you fuck then, you won't be missed.
>slowly moving away from that trend
Still not moved away from it though have we?
>Doom Eternal is everything like Doom.
You mean Quake 1.
They really aren’t. Even CoD fans dismiss the newer games for being Titanfall clones or ripping of Siege and Overwatch. CoD hasn’t been influential in years
Also
>Doom 3 isn’t influenced by Doom? Embarrassing post
I can do it to retard.
>>Still not moved away from it though have we?
Besides Battlefield yes we have.
>b-b-but doom invented fps, that means its the bestest!
Unironically yes Doom is one of the best FPS games of all time and is still fun.
>Off you fuck then, you won't be missed.
>Muh-Muh Chan Culture
I'll actually agree with that. But from 2007-2016, it was nothing but CoD clones because of CoD 4
I hope Doom makes a big come back, I prefer Doom 120% over CoD, but the reality is that for about 10 years, CoD 4 rocked the FPS market
But what game did aim down sights first?
a few years back I went on a CoD campaign marathon, playing through the single player on every game from 1 to BO3 except 3 since it's only on console and I couldn't stomach BO3 which is why I stopped there
Quake 1.
Which was just 3D Doom.
Wasn’t the Modern Combat trend started by Battlefield 2 anyway? So CoD doesn’t even have that claim to fame.
it's true
not that it's good that it was most influential
>So CoD4 was influenced by CoD 1-3 which in turn were influenced by Quake and used its tech which was also based on Doom.
And Chuck Barry influenced the Beatles and Elvis, that doesn't make Chuck Barry more influential than The Beatles and Elvis, dumbass.
Technically Doom.
>2016
Nah, more like 2013. I can’t remember any major games being total CoD tipoffs past that.
>normies don't know what it is
i had a 50ish normie teacher that played the original one.
>>Doom 3 isn’t influenced by Doom? Embarrassing post
Doom 3 was influenced by Doom you goddamn spastic.
I have no idea to be honest. Does scopes count? Or like the general iron sights?
Serious Sam is 3D Doom
... Jesus how do you miss the point this bad. Zoomers were a fucking mistake
Stop
>Doom created the FPS formula thats still used to this day, even if modified
>Doom popularized the FPS genre
>Doom was directly copied for years
>Doom was on more computers than Microsoft Windows
>Doom is not influential
Galaxy brain logic.
Half life is the most garbage fps in existence and single handedly destroyed single player games because everyone keeps wanting to remake it
Serious Sam is 3D Smash TV.
>Means nothing
bro
Why? How is that not correct?
Did you use the sights on the gun to aim in Doom?
>ITT: brain dead 34 IQ retard 9 year olds try to argue that CoD invented first person shooters
how is cod influential at all
it copied literally every other game before it. theres nothing new or interesting about cod whatsoever this is coming from a fan
I mean by that logic, it would technically be Wolfenstein 3D
In terms of programming no because of infinitely scaling hitboxes and no vertical aiming but in terms of playing the game its actually fairly useful to have the gun positioned like that so yes.
Maybe play Doom once in your life, you fucking toddler.
Cod: MW, Halo:CE, and Overwatch are the holy Trinity of fps games that revolutionized the genre
Technically it doesnt have any sights
>Besides Battlefield
Thanks for the laugh.
>Doom is the best FPS of all time
You're killing me
>muh chan culture
Either a redditor or a woman, likely both.
Elvis Presley popularised rock and roll, didn't start it though.
correct
CoD:MW completely bastardized FPS for the next 11 years and we're still getting shit FPS games with objectively bad mechanics in them
>>>Doom is the best FPS of all time
>You're killing me
First off, you edited what i said. Second, if it wasnt, why is there still a massively active playerbase thats been making content for it nonstop for well over two and a half decades?
Nobody missed the point, its just so fucking retarded that it's being mocked. You actually are trying to say that Call of Duty isn't influenced by Call of Duty. Fucking nonsense man, you tried to make a unique context for the discussion and because you live such a sheltered life you've never had anyone correct your mouth and tell you that you're a straight up low iq retard. Fuck off and stop trying to fit into the discussion.
more like Satanic Trifecta
>Modern Warfare resulted in 5 years of fps games being gritty modern shooters
Heard of the word Doomclone ever you dense zoomer? You think Doom didn't change the genre or popularize it? Doom is much more influential than Modern Gayfuckshit, and it did so in a positive manner unlike Activision's abortion.
Literally nobody said Doom wasn't influential, reading comprehensionless faggot.
>You actually are trying to say that Call of Duty isn't influenced by Call of Duty
You say this while also unironically making the argument that Doom 3 wasnt influenced by Doom.
dilate schizo.
First off: Yes there are.
Second, Doom is more influential than Call of Duty.
>Heard of the word Doomclone
Ever heard of COD clone, fake boomer?
>This much projecting over CoD
>Absolutely seething
I said that Doom 3 was influenced by Doom you stupid nigger. Learn to read.
You know exactly what I meant by iron sights. I won this argument. Now fuck off
>zoomies believe this
So it was a nonargument and if Doom 3 was influenced by doom then clearly all games like Doom 3 were as well.
Get a grip.
You didnt win this argument at all, piss baby.
Doom did aiming down the sights first too.
How old are you.
>Doom did aiming down the sights first too.
I literally can't imagine being this butthurt that CoD 4 is more influential, that Doomfags are now claiming Doom did aiming down the sights
Holy fuck, this is beyond comprehension
>First off: Yes there are
Sickeningly delusional. Find a single post that claims Doom wasn't influential in this thread. You're fucking scary stupid.
A series of literal abortions that got forgotten before they even released? Nobody is trying to argue that CoD didn't absolutely ruin the genre for years. It didn't affect nearly enough games or the surrounding culture to be considered anywhere as influential as Doom. It is synonymous with PC gaming.
youtube.com
>gun with clearly visible sights in the middle of the screen
I mean...
Okay here you go retard.
> It didn't affect nearly enough games or the surrounding culture to be considered anywhere as influential as Doom
Ahahaha yes it fucking did. Call of Duty singlehandedly ruined video games.
and imagine being so fucking dumb that some guy taking the piss by taking the vidya term literally is enough to bamboozle you
Be easy user i think we're talking to children here. Its summer, after all.
>people still make shit for a game years after it released
>this makes it one of the best games ever made
Guess Skyrim is on pace to be the best game ever made then. Ocarina of Time doesnt have as much content made for it years on as other games released, guess it must be one of the worst games ever made.
>Modern Gayfuckshit
Don't pretend to be over the age of 13 when you post stuff like this.
See , you stuttering retard.
Call of Duty is synonymous with console gaming, a larger market.
Wow you actually found one. Bravo. Now calm the fuck down.
>Call of Duty singlehandedly ruined video games.
It ruined western FPS games for a couple of years, stop being a drama whore.
>REEEEE I WAS WRONG BUT IM GONNA ACT LIKE IM RIGHT ANYWAY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
How old are you. Whats your first language. Give me an approximation of your IQ range.
See
Seems to imply a pretty serious response, but congrats, you trolled me
>REEEEE I WAS WRONG BUT IM GONNA ACT LIKE IM RIGHT ANYWAY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Oh my god seek help
>>Modern Gayfuckshit
I regret it only so much that it was actually Gayfuckstupid now that I checked. If you don't get the reference it's fine, I doubt they let you on the computer in 2008 and were too occupied playing CoD on your Xbox anyway.
>posting this, unironically
Check yourself in to a loonie-bin my dude, get yourself some help.
Doomfags literally seething because of Cawadooty lmao
Whats so hard about admitting that you were wrong about something.
Why is that difficult.
How old are you.
>It ruined western FPS games for a couple of years, stop being a drama whore.
Nah it did a bit more damage than that
Which video games with the best for someone who hates Firearms, hates the National Rifle Association and is totally against the carrying of weapons?
Sure convinced me with your hot opinion.
>Whats so hard about admitting that you were wrong about something.
I already did holy shit you need a fucking head doctor you're obviously going through a lot.
>wojak
You're both retards
How old are you.
fucking this. Doom. No question . there was a time when all FPS games were referred to as Doom clones.
26 years later people are still making doom wads
Bass Pro Fishing, because its for faggots.
last I checked modern MP FPS games are still hanging on the cross of Korean level up garbage that locks 90% of the content behind dozens of hours of repetitive dogshit
>there was a time when all FPS games were referred to as Doom clones
But there wasn't a time when all FPS games were referred to as CoD clones?
26 years later and people are still making Doom total conversion games and new source ports in fact.
No.
There were 3 games released this year with the tag 'Doom Clone'
I already said that I think Quake is the most influential, but I think CoD4 was also influential as hell, even if a lot of its influence was bad. It introduced and/or popularized a lot of features that are still common in games today.
Most notable is probably its loadout system, most guns before MW either had players start with almost nothing and gain weapons during a match (arena shooters, Halo, Goldeneye, CS, etc.) or gave players a fixed preset loadout. (Battlefield etc.) MW popularized the system we see a lot now, where players make their own class with their choice of guns, gear, attachments, etc. On a closely related note, it also popularized level- and challenge-based gun and attachment unlocks, perks in a multiplayer FPS, etc.
MW also set off a whole rash of stylistic imitators in a whole bunch of ways. The decade of brown on brown color palettes is an obvious part, but it also really popularized the whole "tacticool" thing and you can't go anywhere near a modern FPS these days without a constant deluge of pseudo-operator jargon, and that's pretty much directly attributable to MW. (And especially MW2, which itself shamelessly ripped off Generation Kill.)
I'll bite. I'm 25. I'm facinated to see your reaction.
No there wasnt.
There were games deliberately aping Call of Duty that were called CoD clones but that was it.
Well really i just think you're an even bigger faggot.
I bet you think weed is cool.
We had entire generation of "we want CoD audience" that applied not only to FPS games and only now we're recovering.
CoD 4 was the last objectively good broshooter
>MW invented loadouts and perks
Just.
>There wasn't a time when games were called COD clones
Call of Duty literally still making waves by forcing angry boomers into rewriting history to fit their point of view.
Are you illiterate or just retarded?
Ha what the fuck is wrong with you
Nope
We did boys. We achieved peak delusion
Even topped with a 200 IQ post of
>There were games deliberately aping Call of Duty that were called CoD clones but that was it.
Riddle me this, how could I get a reference you didn't even post, retard?
Clearly older than you based on this embarrassment . Go outside, enjoy the summer, kid.
>we
Yikes.
Keep listing those CoD clones btw.
Pretty sad desu. 2016 newcomers huh?
Yea Forums:
>HL2 RUINED FPS!!!
also Yea Forums:
>HL2
>Influential
you can only have it one way, haters
When the fuck was there ever a time where FPS games as a whole, let alone video games as a whole, were ever fucking referred to as "CoD Clones"?
I fucking remember Modern Warfare coming out and the years after, that never happened.
Maybe its because i dont live in Chile.
It'd actually be easier to name games that WEREN'T influenced by COD.
Actually it's not easier, I can't think of any besides indie arena FPS sequels like Quake Live.
>scroll past 2007
>its listed in alphabetical order
You didnt even proofread your link, dipshit.
all those games were on consoles aswell, just because you are a zoomer faggot that doesnt know shit.
This. I remember games being called "CoD clones" when they really WERE CoD imitators, but it wasn't applied to the whole genre like "Doom Clone" was.
Of course it's kind of hard to compare the two because most FPS after Doom but before Quake really were Doom knockoffs as well, with very similar tech and mechanics, unlike after CoD4, when there was much more diversity in the genre.
>>It'd actually be easier to name games that WEREN'T influenced by COD.
I legitimately cant think of any besides Battlefield, Medal of Honor, and Spec Ops.
lol
DmC, Resident Evil 6, Ace Combat Assault Horizon, Bad Company, BF3, Dragon Age 2 (literally said they want CoD audience), Splinter Cell Conviction, Hitman Absolution, Lost Planet 3, Dead Space 3 and such.
>When the fuck was there ever a time where FPS games as a whole, let alone video games as a whole, were ever fucking referred to as "CoD Clones"?
Good God I refuse to let you question genuine history just to mold a false narrative to fit your point of view. If you want to agree that Doom is more influential, fine, but we will not have you rewriting history in a dangerous manner and confusing the 15 year olds. There's more than a decade of usage of the term COD clone.
) half-life - daddy of story based fps
>Wasn't that GoldenEye?
Half Life and Goldeneye are two very different FPS games. Half-Life is a more tunneled, essentially seamless journey while Goldeneye is a mission based shooter with levels with different objectives. Goldeneye helped popularize console multiplayer FPS, and to a lesser extent created an FPS type later carried forward by Timesplitters. This died off, unfortunately.
meant to Every game claimed by Yea Forums to try to appeal to CoD audience.
Im assuming this is bait but legitimately what are you talking about.
Oh no, he's retarded!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>claimed by Yea Forums
Who cares.
Modern Warfare influenced fps for a deacde and is still doing it while nobody gives a shit about doom except for a couple of nostalgia pandering clones. Doom wasn't even the first fps.
Marathon had most of those things before quake did, though
Maybe you need to go back
Are you unironically dyslexic?
user there was never a point in time where FPS games as a whole were called CoD clones, let alone games as a whole.
Was this a thing in the south american country where you live or something?
>implying COD4 even introduced anything
it took Halo's gameplay and casualised it even more
it took generic gameplay like Deatmatch, TDM and Capture The Flag
it took the walky talky sections of HL2 and amped it up the eleven by being half the game
the only thing COD4 had to its name is introducing instant win buttons IE killstreaks and lets be honest how many games outside of COD have tried killstreaks and stuck with it
last game i remember that tried that shit was the 2015 Battlefront reboot and everyone rightfully laughed at it
meanwhile to this day many elements of DOOM's original are still present in modern FPS, while CODS influence mostly died out after gen 7
This list works better inverted, it's fucking amazing.
>user there was never a point in time where FPS games as a whole were called CoD clones
Yes there was, and it wasn't due to journalistic misconception like calling any FPS a Doom clone, it was due to games actually being clones of Call of Duty for profit.
user what fucking country are you from, i want to know what your first language is.
You don't have to introduce something to be influential, you just have to make it popular. Elvis stole black man song and he's one of the most influential people of all time.
Agree. It's already lasted a year longer than arena shooters and no signs of stopping any time soon.
>type "cod clone" into google
>first page has a gamefaqs post from 2011 asking how homefront is different from every other "cod clone"
>articles discussing how games have been copying cod from the same time
You can't pretend you didn't play vidya for 10 years just to try prove a point.
That's a fun way of spelling influential. Checkmate, incel.
Yep.
Oh it's you again. I'm American you douche.
Then how the fuck are you this bad at understanding god damn english?
AS.
A.
WHOLE.
FPS GAMES AS A WHOLE.
GAMES AS A WHOLE.
ENGLISH YOU FUCKING IDIOTS.
AND THERE WAS LIKE A 3 YEAR PERIOD WHERE ALL SHOOTERS WERE DOOM CLONES, BUT THAT ENDED REAL QUICK WITH QUAKE HUH RETARD?
but what did COD4 influence then?
modern military shooters where dime a dozen before COD came around
today its influence is basicly gone, while DOOM's influence is still felt
Legitimately how are you this fucking bad at english.
Can't post your fucking gibberish and lose your rag when nobody understands what you're on about.
Since when was "every game" called a Doom clone? Was Tetris considered a doom clone?
> what games has Doom ever influenced, you're just delusional bro
We're not talking about Domclones we're talking about CoDclones you god damn reprobrate.
You mean Doom? Super Mario Bros? GTA?
Nice counterpoint. Solid
Is this projection? Are you fucking with me right now? I know what you're saying and I disagree you fucking nut gobbler, holy shit you read a dissenting opinion and your world falls apart to where you assume you're hearing a different culture speak your language Jesus fuck what is wrong with you?
To be honest the "most influential" was either half life 1 or the original call of duty. Both caused entire studios to litterally drop everything and play the games as soon as they were able, some studios collapsed overnight or had their game be force to launch in the same window in an ill advised attempt to compete. Most, if not all, high budget games with a publisher backing them then followed the formula. Anyone that deviated in the FPS market was seen as weird, outdated or stupid for YEARS after release. This isn't a case of dickwaving muh mustard raec or muh just werks cheap gaming box, its about being honest and clear.
Only good thing that came out of all of it was HLDM, the mods, massive community run server groups and call of duty 3.
We were talking about CoD clones and some fucking big brain said all games were "CoD clones" at one point faggot. Read.
Reading comprehension.
Learn english.
Just because it sucked doesn't mean it wasn't influential.
Nigger you're on a site on the internet. If you struggle reading bad english, you're just retarded.
user please every one of those games had dozens of games created exactly in their image just to try and keep up.
>clearly state my point of "THERE WAS NEVER A FUCKING PERIOD EVER WHERE
>ALL
>FPS GAMES
>OR
>ALL
>GAMES
>were referred to as CoD Clones
>BUHHHH BUHHH GUHHHH DUHHHHHHH UBGA UNGA UNGA BUNGA BUT WUT ABOUT DA HOMEFRONT DA COD CLONES DA DER WER DUHHHHHHHH
You're a fucking moron.
Yes. Games as a whole. Everyone wanted a piece of that CoD pie, i
this game came out in 2007
user? are you okay?
Oh so you're retarded
cope hl is good.
ITT: Retards who do not know the definition of influential
Yes. Games as a whole
Everyone wanted a piece of that CoD pie when it came out. That's why game after game implemented shit like season passes, forced multiplayer, gritty realism, and so on and so forth.
Oh no.
Its retarded.
Nowhere did I say otherwise. Hl1 was good fun, so was call of duty. What I meant by
>Only good thing that came out of all of it
was that everything that happened after
Seek help man. There was a point when every new FPS was a COD clone. If you can't reconcile this fact I don't know what else to tell you.
No
If that was true then we'd see more influences of those kinds of games in other shooters.
But instead, it's been MW and it's modern tacticool settings that majority of online shooters imitate.
You clearly have a reading comprehension problem and problem following conversation trains.
Everyone I have asked in the last week IRL and here has said "no". Its getting kind of sad.
Good COUNTERPOINT NIGGER
based cod and hl for making doombabies upset.
THERE WAS NEVER A FUCKING POINT WHERE ALL FPS GAMES WERE COD CLONES OR REFERRED TO AS COD CLONES.
THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
>if i say "nigger" that means i'll fit in right? People wont see me as a 13 year old underageb& newfag r-right?
How old are you, 10?
You are deluded and know literally nothing about video games if you just unironically posted that.
>DOOM
>Wolfenstein 3D
>Quake
>PC-only games
They might not have been called cod clones, but their influence was apparent. Season passes, Modern settings, gritty realism, multiplayer in everything.
Even Half-Life 1 was on the PS2 and Dreamcast.
>but what did COD4 influence
Have you played an fps game between the year 2007 and today? Fuck me. People like you are too brain damaged from the cock you keep taking that you forget that shit like regenerating health, custom and limited class holdouts, linear levels and sprinting are the "COD4" influence.
>but doom invented fps games making it more important than everything in the world
Easily makes top 10 of the most retarded things posted on this board on the daily. We don't credit Alexander Bell with the Internet because he developed early communications.
Fpbp
>Season passes, Modern settings, gritty realism, multiplayer in everything.
>Call of Duty invented MODERN SETTINGS IN FICTION
>Call of Duty invented multiplayer
>Call of Duty invented Gritty Realism
Fucking what?
>THERE WAS NEVER A FUCKING POINT WHERE ALL FPS GAMES WERE COD CLONES OR REFERRED TO AS COD CLONES.
Yes there was.
>THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
Yes it did. You're coming from the angle of 90s journalism calling every game set in first person a Doom clone simply because of the perspective and mechanics of holding a gun. Whereas Call of Duty 4 legitimately spawned endless self admitted clones.
>not fear.
stfu and post some modern quake clones then. where are my eldritch mazes?
or moon bases?
or nazi fortresses?
have you touched a shooter in the last ten years? they're nothing like the classics. they sure copy CoD and specifically CoD4 a whole lot.
>>stfu and post some modern quake clones then. where are my eldritch mazes?
Dusk.
I NEVER SAID IT INVENTED.
The SUCCESS of CoD led to those ideas being pushed in most games trying to catch a bit of that CoD action.
Did you just not play any FPS games during 7th console era?
Half-life was my first M-rated game on the ps2. I miss those days.
Marathon was very ahead of its time in a lot of ways, but it was released on the wrong platform and never had the exposure to be truly influential. Most people today only know about it because of Bungie's later success with Halo. Quake was the big mainstream hit that took those features and made them industry standards.
No it fucking didnt.
Nothing fucking "Popularized" modern settings, if anything did it would have been GTA III.
Gritty realism? GTA III or Gears of War.
Fucking Multiplayer? Doom and Quake 3.
CoD popularized DLC shit i guess but not the other shit, thats a lie.
I forgot the HL2 episodes, TF2, Portal, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, and a miriad of other titles were CoD clones.
Are you retarded? Without CoD's huge MP success, shit like Bioshock 2 Multiplayer, Far Cry 2 and 3 multiplayer, and shit like Mass Effect multiplayer wouldn't have happened.
Surprise surprise, a PC games company doesn't follow Console trends. Wow what a shocking development ladies and gentlemen.
>influential
>1 game
this is precisely the problem with modern FPS games and you can't even see that
Motherfucker how deluded are you? Fucking every game had multiplayer when the 360 and PS3 came out.
Halo? Gears of War? Does that ring a bell, faggot?
CoD4 came out in 2007
He's not talking about console games.
You wanted a modern Quake clone and i gave you one faggot.
Those games were DESIGNED WITH MULTIPLAYER IN MIND
The stuff I listed were not, their original games had NO online integration.
why are idfags so autistic?
its sad that you don't see how retarded you are
Meant for
boomers who are lost and forgotten in time still want to have an opinion even if its retarded and wrong
the point is about influence. it doesn't matter that bad game is more influential than your favorite one, the article is not wrong.
>these other massive giants also prominantly featured multiplayer before CoD4
>CoD4 is the only exclusive reason why these other games have multiplayer
You're truly retarded.
that's how autism works, you keep playing one game over and over and believe that everyone else is mistaken
id's games at least stand the test of time but their fans are insufferable because of what kind of autism magnet they have culturally become
imagine being this much of a zoomer.
You can't even use lead based paint as an excuse, You're simply a genetic dead end.
Doom 2016 too. Does anyone care about its MP at all?
imagine being so retarded that you miss a simple point of an argument
You have no point faggot.
Nobody said "revolutionary", just "influential" which it was. It was the turning point of FPS war games being WW2 and becoming modern/near-future warfare.
You're missing the point that CoD had MASSIVE success that made previously single player games that existed alongside Halo and GoW, include elements to chase CoD's success.
>cod4 is console only
>cod didn't start as a pc only franchise
mmkay
don't argue with obvious zoomers here on summer break please.
>I never played zelda so that means that pretty much every game after it didn't take design cues from it
lol
BF2 did most of the shit CoD4 did back in 2004, the only thing about cod4 is that it was more visible to normies.