Tales of Symphonia

Just finished this game, it was fantastic. Let's discuss it.

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It's whatever. Phantasia has a better story, I think most people nostalgia really hard over Symphonia, or overrate it, because of the Lloyd/Kratos relationship.
First exposure to "dude, Church is evil lmao."
Tales is overall really mediocre. And it is fucking unbareable to play this game after playing almost every 3D Tales after it.

>daytime Yea Forums
Yeah have fun with that one

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Shit taste, shit reasoning, shitbrain

>Lloyd
>Sorey
>Luke

Why are so many Tales MCs literal retards?

Prove me wrong, fagboi. Symphonia is a mediocre entry in a mediocre series.

Presea best girl.
Which ending did you go for OP? Kratos ending is different enough for a second playthrough on NG+ if you did one of the other characters. ToS is one if the few RPGs that I enjoyed doing multiple runs through, and all the NG+ bonuses are nice.

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Lloyd is only bookstupid, him, Regal, and Zelos to an extent are the only characters that are smart where it actually matters

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>Lloyd
>Retard

Avoid Dawn of the New World. AVOID!

Sheena >> Presea >> the rest

soul

This is Collette. Say something nice about her.

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I played the game at just the right time I think, I bet now I'd feel it's extremely cookie-cutter as far as stories go, it's been hard motivating myself to play any tales game after Vesperia even though I enjoy the combat to bits. I loved the GRADE system for NG+, I've been saying more games needed something similar for years. Now NG+ is basically expected from games, I find myself wanting more challenges than basically unlocked cheats, so it's a bit sad coming back to the game and realizing I'm no longer too fussed over GRADE for replays.

Still, Tales of Symphonia just hits so many good notes. It was one of the few games that felt like it was wrapping up at so many points and you just wished there'd be one more thing, then it'd pull the rug from under you and I still think the combat is a blast to go back to. The biggest saving grace of this series is the lite slice-of-life aspects. Casual conversation between the crew after important events or small gameplay quirks like cooking flesh it out so much more than lines of exposition. I believed the friendship in this group way more than any other JRPG because of it.

Also how do you fail at cooking a sandwich anyways?

Literal fucking retard.

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I've beaten Symphonia more times than I can count and it's still one of my favourites. The battle system itself, while now, may seem basic to some still provides an overall solid combat with great magic and combos that have actual weight to them. I think it has some of the best bosses and 'secret' bosses, especially Abyssion and Sword Dancer. Something about those specific fights felt so damn satisfying. I think the characters all work well together. OST has some pretty neat jams, mostly forgettable though. Symphonia is always a great place to start if you want to get into the series. It's simple to go forward as most games elaborate on the combat and it's simple to step back since it's the first 3D title.

I'm currently playing Phantasia. I'm about to get Arche. The combat is very basic, but it still offers quite amount of variety and skill. That said, what are the connections to Phantasia and Symphonia I always seem to forget.

>daytime Yea Forums
>tales thread
and unfortunately this.

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Unicorn stuff is dumb anyway. Can't blame him for not picking up the clues

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Abyss is objectively better. Better graphics, better combat, better plot, better characters. Symphonia is imensely overrated.

I played ToS last year, my main problems werel

- Story was pretty basic and obvious.
- Very few side-quests, extras, etc. I think there was the battle arena that had some tough bosses, but I'd sort of lost interest in the game at that point.
- Battle system was boring.

Maybe I just don't like JRPG's that much anymore.

A couple of the grade shop options did increase challenge though. Half XP, reduced max HP, and the tension one made enemies enter tension faster (though it applies to your party too).

Yeah, but it's not on PC.
Yes, I know, it's on PS2 emulator.

>start game
>get to first boss, barely started playing
>start attacking him
>keep attacking him
>10 minutes later I'm still there
>20 minutes later I'm still there
>little by little my characters start dying
>half an hour in, guy is not dead, only MC alive
>eventually lose
Is my game bugged or what the fuck is going on here?

>Zelos end

MY NIGGA

Mithos was right about humans and elves.

the pc version of symphonia sucks anyway. might as well play on dolphin

I don't disagree that Symphonia is mediocre, but it's still the closes Tales ever got to a decent game.

Genis didn't understand either, and he is a genius, the smartest kin in class.
Who can blame him? In the world of Sylverant you don't have cable TV and porn channels.

What did you find unappealing about the battle system?

which boss are you speaking of? this sounds strange.

Zelos is best Kratos.

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>smartest kin
I meant kid, lol.

>tfw I'll never be able to play it for the first time again

15 y/o me was blown away by this game. I still remember getting a rheiard for the first time.

tranny

This nigga was /fa/ as fuck before he went all DBZ

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>Phantasia has a better story
It really does, Dhaos had a shitty life.

> King of a big nation on his planet
> War breaks out, he wisely remains neutral while still trying to end the conflict
> Shit hits the fan beyond his control, Mana tree of his planet gets completely fucked
> Goes to earth to try and get a seed from our mana tree
> Gets there and realizes "oh shit, they're about to fuck up here like my people did on my planet"
> Actually does the reasonable thing by talking to the leaders about what's happening is going to kill the mana tree
> They laugh him off and only AFTER trying everything else, he then goes kill crazy and tries to kill the fools
> Then gets killed by a idiot navie hero

Press F to pay respects to Dhaos

>this guy that really wants a bunch of ancient weapons of incredible evil whose name is fucking ABYSSION seems pretty trustworthy

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Does anyone have the sound file from Druid's casting yell: "Mana, the root of creation, gather before me". I've looking for that FUCKING FOREVER.

the fact that I could play a JRPG with my best friend blew my mind. so many nights spent playing that game during summer. I can't believe I even played as Genius; getting new spells felt amazing.

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zelos is perfect

lloyd is academically stupid, raine says she pushes him hard because she knows he's smart

What happened to Kratos?

Phantasia's world is the world that the two planets in Symphonia fused into in the ending. It takes place many years later. Tree of Yggdrasil is important in both of them. Dhaos is from Derris-Kharlan like Kratos.

Any Raysbros excited for this month?
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Finally, more Destiny and Legendia.

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Literally the first boss fight with some big dude near the beggining.

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namecist

stuck in a comet floating in the depths of space

I remember the very first time I played it was with some friends after one of them rented it from Blockbuster. I actually bought the game when I started high school.

So Symphonia is the prequel? Seems interesting enough. Looking forward to continuing the story. Are there easter eggs that I should look out for?

Oh, are you sure you are doing enough damage to the big guy? Kratos is supposed to jump in and 'save' you from that fight. Otherwise, it sounds bugged. The PC version has always irked me though.

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Ooof. Play more Tales games. The Jap 2D ones especially.

kek look how skinny senels legs are jesus. I actually prefer the little chibi in game models more for some reason

we played the game during my first year of high school. i still remember when he randomly got the game from walmart, with rpgs being almost non existent on the gamecube, and the fact that it said 1-4 players, he bought it instantly. thankful that he did, honestly, those are some of my best kept memories. staying up all night grinding out that game.

both models are fine. i love the raw look of the 2d models.

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I mean I think they both use the same summon spirits? But I don’t think there are many other significant threads connecting them.

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Why didn't she just solo the game herself?

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so legendianon whats your favorite party members to use? I mained Chloe then had Senel Will and Grune, occasionally Norma because she a cute

most of the games do; they just look different. unless you are saying the look similar? either way, i'm having a great time with phantasia. i'll probably watch the anime again once i'm finished with the game to gather more story.

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>Indignation and Judgement are my favorite spells
>mfw they combine them

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I always have Chloe and Senel in my party, and I alternate each play through who I play as and right now it's Senel. The first half of the game I use Norma and Will and then during the CQ I like to switch it up a bit (and make it a little harder) but using Shirley an Grune. I want to play Jay next time, but I remember testing him out and not having a good time. Moses would be fun if most of his shots didn't fly over the enemy.

Also, Norma is best girl.

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Is legendia actually good or worth playing? I've played xillia, symphonia 1 & 2, abyss, graces f and liked all of them.

>philia and woodrow
finally, i hope they include chelsea too so i can have a chester/woodrow/chelsea/natalia archer team
>inb4 raven
i don't like raven

she's extremely sickly and frail

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I want those legs wrapped around me

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This part gets me every time.

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Why is her hat so big?

It's different and has some glaring flaws; charming though. The combat is 2D, but if you treat it like a beat 'em up it works in the games favour. The characters and OST are the strong points, especially if you care about back story and interactions (party banter) with one another. Most people will probably say not to play, which is fine, but at the very least giving it a try won't do you any harm.

only if you're Senel.

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what's the worst tales game

Same.

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Most people will say Zestiria and most people will say Tempest. It really depends on who has played what in the series. I would personally say Berseria. I honestly had no fun playing that game. The whole time felt like a big chore.

Question, and it's probably farfetched, but does anyone recognize the artist who is drawing the small 2D models in the bottom right corner?

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Tempest, Innocence, Eternia, Hearts

This artist's Raine obsession (not his work here) was quite a sight years back.

Legendia was my first exposure to Tales too, has a classmate who was a fan. Symphonia was my first in full and I immediately noticed the difference in music!

The PC version's audio files can be unpacked, I can take a look later today.

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>disliking Eternia
what is this?

>noticed a difference in music
Go Shiina is godly.

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Yeah I like Moses and Jay as characters but almost never used them might check them out on a next play-through

Anybody blessed with three other friends to actually play this game from beginning to the end? That, and Phantasy Star with them was peak nostalgia for me.

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>three other friends to play from beginning to end
>those hours of game where you run around with only 2-3 character stops especially early game
you're that asshole who insisted on playing lloyd and made your friend play the healer the whole time didn't you

i played it at a friends house whenever i was over. let me borrow the game so i could finish it myself.

I love them as characters. I like the way they developed the characters together. They really mesh well. I do feel like doing a "crazy" play through having only iron eres, but I wonder how much I would be stuck in the item menu throwing out gels to everyone.

Only two for me, including myself. Having four people would have been a blast though. Some parts would have been annoying when you don't have enough characters.

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I have failed to beat this game 3 times so far and im really salty about it. My first time playing it was on gamecube and I got really far before my bro sold it. Many years later I got the combo pack for ps3 and I got pretty far again but my dad died in the middle of me playing and I didnt feel like continueing. Then like a month ago my computer broke so while I was waiting for new parts I fired up the ps3 and played again. Got to the point were im supposed to drop off pink hair little girl and the fuckin disk player on the PS3 broke robbing me of beating the game again. Not sure why god wont let me beat this fuckin game.

I actually liked DotNW.

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It’s been like a decade since I last played Phantasia, but I’m pretty sure the spirits are the same for the most part, Volt being an orb of electricity and Gnome being a weird gnome thing

Nahh that was my cousin since he was the one who owned the game, I was stuck playing Genis most of the time.

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The original or PS3 port?
Have you played any other Tales games?
I tried playing Symphonia after finishing Vesperia, but dropped it, it felt like a downgrade and traversing world and fighting was tedious. Now I'm playing Graces f, the battle system is even better than Vesperia's.

original (emulate dolphin) for 60FPS and cell-sheding.

Me too. I think it has some of the best 3D aerial combat, if not the best in the series. I wish they would have made the game its own thing instead of riding on the Symphonia name.

Fair enough. I'll keep my eye open anyhow in case I catch anything else. Thanks!

Not OP, but gamecube is the only way to go.

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>cell-sheding.
Black outlines.

game looks better with it.

You've been able to mod them into PC for ages.

Agreed air combat was so snappy you could just tap up twice and start wrecking shit. monster catching was fun too. Shame the story was so bizarre but I went from absolutely hating emil to thinking hes not so bad. It was like Lukes progression in Abyss but worst

the more you know.

face it shit port is shit. play it on a gamecube for max comfy

What's the track that plays during the Legendia part?

Symphonia and Symphonia 2

Sheena's best costumes aren't on Gamecube.

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youtube.com/watch?v=0Di5T7lOGtg&list=PL6812E46CC30B40BF&index=17

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>equip kratos with stiletto
>sheathes it so adamantly in that big-ass sword sheathe
That shit always cracks me up.

nice to see Legendia get some more recognition it's just a shame that it's mobile.

it's a good game. it has issues sure, but what tales game doesn't?

which part exactly? sea of rage is mostly playing.

that looks so silly.

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Reminder that Rutee was almost part of Symphonia's cameo battle

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i'm sad best girl raine got the worst costume

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>Check Tcrfl
>It's real
What a shame.

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>The PC version's audio files can be unpacked, I can take a look later today.

You will have my gratitude if you do so.

I love it. It's my favorite. It is pretty bog-standard JRPG story, but I love that it's simple and has a simple premise with likable - not the best, but likable - characters.
Also I hope you were able to make Colette get MAD money with her stealing skills.
rune bottles are busted.

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She needs to wear proper clothes! Or at least some shorts.

>Genis as Luke
why though?

>mad money
you just fight that dragon in the gnome cave.

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Please do not shame Miss Chloe's taste in outfits.

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This game is really good at everything except the plot. Overall a great game

It was fun to play and I unironically liked playing Pokemon and getting the different monsters and making some OP shit.
I think my main problem with DotNW is just the fucking plot. I just don't fucking like it.

cause they're both brats, of course
i think it looks weird because genis doesn't have luke's cheese grater abs to rock that costume

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>you just fight that dragon in the gnome cave
It's patched in the HD versions.
This method takes a bit more time but gives you money WAY faster.
>go to Fuji Mountains
>play as Colette
>run around until you find a cub enemy - which has chimeras.
>Item steal chimeras for Rune Bottle , run away from the fight, repeat until you have x20
>go to Flanoir Accessory shop
>buy defense charms
>use run bottles on them, value of them jumps x2
>sell them back to the merchant and get 800,000 gald in 10 minutes to do regardless of level where Dragon will actually take longer to kill + the travel time of going back and forth through the loading zone
Colette can make you millions very quickly.

I meant the song when Shirley goes overray. Sorry should have been specific.

One of the only characters ever who has made me want to play an entire game solely based off of their outfit/look.

rune bottle farming is unironically faster than the dragon by a country mile

Ah. I don't know what that track is. Sorry user.

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Tales has a lot of girls like that

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Reminder that Sheena's bust is in the top 3 biggest in the franchise and is even bigger than Judith

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God you don't know much I wanted to fuck that soulless loli in the dwarf smith's house

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>I'm slowly dying Lloyd .
>HAHA Have a coffee .


I like you

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Please do not lewd Tabitha

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Luke had "memory loss," and grew up a spoiled brat. Honestly his evolution as a character was neat,cause I hated him at first. I just wanted tears milkers.

Raine fucks old man for shelter

Based newfag.

did you keep kratos or replace him with zelos OP

I guess so. Still not very fitting for Genis.

>patched
oh nasty. that was my favourite spot to grind gald. the colette method sounds pretty neat though.

most likely true, but fighting the dragon was at least fun while making money.

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Imagine how shit you have to be to put meat and lettuce between bread.

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you'd be surprised.

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Speed Cast Marta is disgusting.

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He's trying at least

This is a good thread. You've watched the OVA, right user?

>PRISM SWORD
>PRISM SWORD
>PRISM SWORD
>PRISM SWORD
Jesus fucking Christ she was busted. I actually had to take her off the team if I wanted to have fun.

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What are your favorite costumes for each character, Yea Forums?

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How long is the Symphonia anime? I bought the Abyss anime on Blu ray still need to watch that sometime soon just wish it was dubbed.

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What's wrong with the PC version? I've played it on gc and pc and didn't notice any differencs other than having jp voice acting and more voiced skits in the PC release

Lloyd - beach
Colette - formal
Genis - katz
Raine - shaman
Sheena - assassin ninja
Zelos - stage play
Presea - klonoa
Regal - chef
Kratos - the only costume?

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Noble Lloyd
Swinsuit Colette
Katz Genis
Bunny Raine
Noble Sheena
Masked Zelos
Klonoa Prezea
Chef Regal
Samurai Kratos

Bunny girl Raine is GOAT

I liked it until the end, mostly because they give you the entire Symphonia cast, and it's a trap to try and use them, they're complete shit compared to tamed beasts and my young self couldn't grasp that, so i couldn't beat the game.

>Lloyd
Guy
>Colette
Rita
>Genis
Default?
>Raine
Pascal
>Sheena
Cute biker
>Zelos
Noble
>Presea
Snow
>Regal
Chef
>Kratos
Judgment

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>how long is it
12 episodes. It's just pretty decent animation value, but do not - I repeat; DO NOT - expect a 1:1 retelling of the game.
It tells the same story but with altered events because making an entire anime about a big journey, especially one as long as Symphonia's is, would have taken more than 24 episodes.
It's mostly about the characters.

The only reason to play it on dolphin is for 60FPS.
The PC version does not have 60FPS and is locked to 30 because it's based off the PS2 version.
As much of a long-time fan I am of Symphonia I say play it on PC because that's where the most amount of content is. The Dolphin version you can get to run good, but you're not going to have any HD texture packs for it because the only one that existed is no longer hosted.
tl;dr, Dolphin for 60FPS but less content and blurry visuals - even with visual enhancers. PC for all the content, no blurriness, but locked 30.

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that sounds fine. I honestly thought it was much longer which initially turned me off knowing that I had to watch so many subbed episodes. will probably watch it sooner than I expected. thanks user.

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>PC vers is fps locked
How the fuck did I not notice this, thanks for the breakdown user

>There will never be a phantasia remake with 3d graphics and an improved combat system
It hurts bros. At least there's the psx version r-right?

symphonia threads are the best tales threads
>You've watched the OVA, right user?
i watched the funnies
that one episode where zelos points out regal is a lolicon is my favorite

>lloyd
default, noble
>colette
noble, swimsuit
>genis
winter
>kratos
default, judgement, ludger
>raine
priestess, bunny
>sheena
noble, suzu, judith
>presea
klonoa, winter
>zelos
the ones that get rid of his dumb long hair and stupid bandana, so default with the top hat and mask, noble, biker and alvin
>regal
chef

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Someday I'm sure it'll happen

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As a Mongolian horse archer I really enjoyed the Finnish Tales of Phantasia fan translation made in the 90's/early 00

Again even if it's 30FPS I still suggest the PC version.
I originally wanted to emulate it but found that it has some problems that are known to not be fixed. specifically a single FPS hitch every 5 seconds that is very noticeable.
Of course, people will have different problems but I say it's not worth the trouble. I really do miss the 60FPS but as i played it more I actually stopped noticing the 30FPS.

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I bet Arche fucks like a tiger.

>refuses to just jump or tempest over him
This is why you probably shouldn't start with a game that has free run

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i wonder who could possibly be behind this post

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I started with Symphonia user. I've only ever played it and I've finished it many many times.
that being said, I'd not played it in 6 years and I panicked. I thought i had far more room than i did. and even if I did tempest, everyone else would have died anyways.

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Absolutely.

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Every party member in ToS is a fucking idiot.

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Indignation taking names as usual.

i love the celsius boss fight. she also has a nice model.

i wish the AI would guard/counter more efficiently. they can be pretty brain dead at times more so since they don't move when they could.

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Yuan and Botta is the most bullshit fight in the game just after the dragon's nest anyway

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sex with Celsius

I want Lilith to make surprise appearances in arenas again.

Can she appear in Tekken 7?

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A man can dream. Also arche best girl, IDC if she's canonically not a virgin

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>not the Sylph battle
god damn.

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>fucking a summon spirit
You'll die

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Sheena is the ancestor of one of the party members in the PSX version
Flamberge and Vorpal Sword are important in both

I want to nibble on her ears and suck on her small breasts

>implying it's not worth it

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Does Zelos have a thing for tomboys?

Oh right I totally forgot about the ninja in phantasia. So they're the same clan huh? Neat.

hey, that's where i left off in my current symphonia playthrough
i'm aiming for no items/deaths, so it's been a pain because my dumb teammates refuse to attack yuan and go for botta even though i set them to scatter

i don't remember sheena and regal ever doing anything downright stupid, and the only idiotic thing zelos ever does (leading everyone into a trap in fooji mountains) was done because he was working against the party at the time

Regal keeps wearing prison rags and handcuffs in DotNW even though he's already fulfilled his promise.

He wears a suit in DotNW and doesn't wear the handcuffs that much at all.

Who is the character? They're not in the SNES version? I'm glad to hear about the two legendary swords as they were my favourites in Symphonia. Thanks for the information user!

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he has a thing for anyone that gives him attention

I don't recall Celsius ever acknowledging him

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Suzu. Her last name is the same as Sheena's.

Technically she is in the Snes version. But she wasn't playable in it. She was just an NPC. The PS1 version made her into a full blown optional party member

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It's said in game that he has a thing for generally anything that looks remotely female.

MANA plus that one blooper because I found it before the Necromancer.

mega.nz/#!A2ggXKjC!B6PftdXQaHlr004w8hc5vfs2fGa6oa4pUAfe_kFOcaU

You can still get Kal's complete upscale on the Github page

github.com/Kaldaien/TSF/releases/tag/tsfix_090

Guy Lloyd
Formal Colette
Katz Genis
Formal Raine
Suzu Sheena
Formal Zelos
Formal Presea
Malik Regal

Regal goes back and forth between suit and prison top, obviously a callback.

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Too bad she didn't share in Sheena's genes. though the fact that her garb is red and her hair is brown does leave some interesting implications.

Colette is literally irrelevant to the plot save for carrying around the plot device that anybody can hold

Oh Suzu! I'm not sure why I forgot about her. That's actually really neat. I had no idea she was related to Sheena. Thanks ace.

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So you're saying she's plot relevant?

All of that is wrong lol. This HAS to be nostalgia from a sony fanboy

Yeah, cause the fact that the bad guys kept wanting to kidnap her didn't make her plot relevant.

Though Abyss is pretty good, that's debatable. Though I will give it credit for having a unique dichotomy between the characters.

No I'm saying she's irrelevant
It's not even a Frodo situation where she HAS to carry the plot device
If she died or was written out entirely anybody could have filled her role
For the plot device, not her
Colettefags are the worst

Can we not bring console war faggotry into this? Doubly so since Abyss was ported to the 3DS.

Literally untrue. She was important to Mythos so that he could shove his sister's consciousness into the appropriate vessel.
You DID play the game, right user?

Imagine having such a sinful body and being completely unaware of it.

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Hey, Sheena's my favorite Symphonia girl and I always used her even if she was introduced/made way too early (since freely activating overlimit wouldn't be a thing until Abyss, 2 games later).

Doesn't mean you aren't wrong.

Rays swimsuit event and new Destiny and Graces characters being added is enough to pull me back for now, but help me if it decides to torture me again with gacha. I hope Johnny gets added soon.

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He was literally delusional
Martel herself confirms this by speaking through Colette to effectively say "Everything you did to revive me was pointless because I don't want to be revived through body snatching now fuck off"
Literally not wrong though

Amazing game. I just wish boss fights were harder or a little bit more different than regular fights, didn't feel very different to me except that they were longer.

>Poor Communication:The Game

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Yeah he was delusional. It also fucking worked. She just gave up the body.
Again you played the game, right?

It worked previous times too but she kept refusing to stay
Did YOU play the game?

I did, and it was glorious. Tales games were absolutely made for couch co-op shenanigans. Some fights we would strategize beforehand and triumph, but sometimes, when that failed, we would rush them down quickly and mindlessly. Both had different feelings of accomplishments, but left us cheering all the same

Did a 4 player run in Vesperia too with a different set of bros.

Do you get the feeling they are going to drop co-op for Arises?

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>Phantasy Star
I'm envious that you had bros to play with user, unless you meant PSO/PSU. I didn't have friends to play those with either though I guess it still counts.

Anyway it was really nice chatting with you all. I appreciate the information and silliness this thread gathered. Until next time.

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Please let best boy Klarth get an actual 3D appearance in a major game and not just mobile spin off, it's not fair that everyone else in his game but him has.

I'd buy Tekken just for her if she appeared.
See you around Legendiabro.

Pratfall on enemy
Steel their stuff

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I do like how the merchandise and spin-off machine keeps almost every Tales game in some level of perpetual spotlight. Radiant Mythology 3 (mostly) realizing the dream of a teenage anime army was pretty cool at the time.

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If Dawn had just been "Tales of Monsters" like it feels like it was meant to be it would probably have been a better game for the focus. Though its particularly odd roster might have still made the cut.

Hmm, how long was Meredy on that ship?

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Good question. She was probably there for some time.

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Sorey is the worst in that regard, I thought we'd be getting Indiana Jones or something even more interesting, Raine-like character who is into old ruins and shit.

It's literally just gay Lloyd who knows abandoned shrines trivia, fuck off.

I would make her my st... persona, and be with her forever.

I honestly wish they never gave you the old cast to play as you couldnt even equip them with new items right?

>Can cook you dinner and kick your ass at the same time

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I had 3 but the last one punked out before we finished. It was a fun ride regardless tho.

The game is cool for a budget game. I mostly just lament the lack of budget and the fact namco couldn't dane to give it more funding alongside vesperia.

Imagine having such a sinful body and being completely aware of it but being too much of a dork to do anything with it.

Sheena is a dork! A DORK!

Rude.

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ZEEEEELOOOOOS

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That and the fact the writing is a shit show. I lost track of how many plot holes I ran into after like 5

So who is the most broken character in Symphonia? Factoring in elemental resists, tech combos, and I guess spell cancelling if there is any difference at that point.

Since she's battle-ready and half of her moves are existing spells, what more would the devs had needed to do to make Seles beyond playtesting a few animations?

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Coming up with the rest of her artes, a mystic arte(even if they barely exist in symphonia), portraits, alternate tech trees, EX Skills, cooking ability, altering pretty much the entire interface to fit more than 8 characters(remember Sheena left at one point just so you could have both Kratos and Zelos), AI that's more robust than FREEZE LANCER ABSOLUTE FREEZE LANCER ABSOLUTE, voice lines with other characters so she doesn't feel like a hole in the party, adding her to the final cutscene, and just generally wondering what the point of adding an optional party member that you can't even get until just before the final boss would be

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FUCK you did it! Thanks!

What is with this series and sexy spellcasters

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slut who only wanted richter's dick

Cute slut.

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sluts can't be cute

How rude.

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tfw she has no porn

>spellcasters
>sexy

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I pretty much rival Legendianon in plays (Yes I know you're here) at 52 playthroughs over 14 years and 5 memory cards. Symphonia was my favorite game of all time as a kid, and Still very much is.

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True. The assumption behind my question is that her late arrival and stature would let Namco cut a few corners, e.g recycling existing EX Skills and having only a little in the way of alternate techs. She would feel like an extra because she would be. Which then again cycles around to "but then what was the point?"

Happy to help! I thank those who built the upackers!

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Give me your Rays friend IDs.

Yes, very sexy

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Rita is the best girl in all of Tales

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897356562

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wow i haven't seen anybody be autistic about tripcodes in years

Her bare back looks even better in motion

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I'm a bit worried, considering how radically different this one is looking in the trailers so far.
If they remove co-op I'll be mad as fuck.
I like Legendia but the worst part of it for me is the lack of co-op.

Isn’t Luke literally 7 years old?

At last, someone who understands.

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He definitely looks like he belongs at an /fa/ meetup.

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Greatest props to DeadCat and Frubam for unlocking the other human characters. It's just a shame there isn't a ton to DO with them, Dawn being a spin-off it is a smaller hacking sandbox.

And sequestered the entire time. I tended to find him funny.

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Smelly lesbian

Not much in terms of story content, but the Coliseum mod and encounter modifier can let you use them against whoever you want.
youtube.com/watch?v=-OCLyVkQS7Y

I do wonder how long a code you could inject before you hit stability issues; on paper there is nothing stopping you from a significant difficulty overhaul, it would just be bigger numbers on top of the same battle system where Emil and Marta run circles around everyone else.

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Keele won THIS?

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damn unironically? crazy bitch and only friends are blastia

pokemon system ruined everything. ok game

Have you seen her mom? Keele was looking for an investment.

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kek

What's the deal with the event early in the game when you stay at inns and someone is stalking the group?

i don't think it's ever explained
maybe it was yuan who was doing the stalking, the mysterious intruder only shows up in lloyd's room

I didn't do it with this, but I used to play Legend of Dragoon passing the controller around on each character's turn with 2 friends. I was Dart, friend was Lavitz/Albert, Friend 2 would alternate between Rose and others.

Stan was almost in Tempest too.

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Colette can be pretty strong. Can poison enemies and triple ray satellite with the devils arms shreds enemies.

HAHAHAHA WAIT
>have two brothers
>buy ToS because I can't fucking believe JRPGs have action combat now
>older brother says he's lloyd
>get kratos
>we make younger brother be genis
>has to cast the same spells over and over and hates it
>when we get the tech that makes you cast quick by mashing b, his job is literally just smashing B autistically in between casts of meteor shower
>he starts fucking screaming with rage while we call him a faggot

gt's boys

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My team always ended up being some variant of
>Genis
>Lloyd
>Raine
>Presea/Zelos/Kratos

>tech glitch with Genis
And that's why he's my favorite character in the game

>Lloyd
>Genis
>zelos/kratos
>Presea

would switch to raine if its a boss fight.

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God I loved Rody. She was a bit awkward to play but so much fun. Still mad she got whisked away right before the Dhaos fight in ToPX

She's just too good for that game and for the west

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youtube.com/watch?v=o8GjwJNG7ts

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If they ever give us Tales of Symphonia X or Director's Cut: Episode Sheena, it'd be fucking cool if she popped up there.

>Doubting galaxy brain Keele
He was always playing 7d chess from the very beginning

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That, and Regal in the last slot since he was good in PS2/HD. Raine is always a most in every fight. Collete for Abyssion because poison pow hammer
Worse part was everytime you were forced to use Sheena since she sucks ass, even her Ex-Skills suck ass. Hell, why they did that to her?

>Episode Sheena Featuring Rondoline
Sounds like a gathering of all the best girls

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Funny that it took Regal just 3 spammable techs to fly up the ranks. What was his best combo on the Gamecube, Triple Kick or Wolverine in place of Dragon Claws? Crescent Dark Moon got you more hits.

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Say something nice about your least favorite Tales game and character

>when you've been playing tales games for years but never actually played with friends
Welp.

just pirate it on the pc and play with cell-shading, and 60 fps.

I still think it's the best Tales game overall. Vesperia had more combat polish and content, but Symphonia still had the best setting and story overall.

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Finished it back in gamecube days. It was fantastic and really impressed me. The battle system is so fun.

I've recently finished ToS Dawn of the New World because of my thirst for the original ToS and it expands the original story with a few weird asspulls, Lloyd's new voice actor feels odd, but it's still worth a try imho. Emil and Martha's relationship is one of my faves in the series

That's what happens when your main gimmick is tied to a random mechanic.

I'm still a bit amazed at how little Dawn muddied Symphonia's lore. Phantasia's, on the other hand... but as I understand it that is one way to get the world to where it might be by the time it rolls around.

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Phantasia's story was butchered during development. It was originally a much more interesting story than what we got.

modern setting tales

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So long as it's not high school.

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Cute.

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Lloyd might be the smartest jrpg protagonist of all time.

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The cup was empty the whole time, nothing comes out when Colette drops it

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Does X2 count?

>Lloyd was actually playing 8D chess the whole time

And people say he's retarded

Dude's got the intuition of the gods. He's not that smart, but he's very quick to pick things up and put pieces together.

Oh jeez I wasn't planning on going down this kitty Sheena rabbit hole tonight

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was she blind too

who knows? it's the closest thing we have to a modern tales, that's for sure

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I raise your frequent Sheena artist with another.

Hmm, I guess so.

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sheena crying after the unicorn kicked the bucket was extremely cute

Just about everything she does is extremely cute

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Just in case you've all forgotten what Sheena is for

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I feel this game is severely overrated and carried almost entirely by nostalgia. It's no wonder in top lists from Japan the game tends to rank pretty low, I can barely straight up think of other Tales games that are outright worse
That one Presea doujin is fantastic though

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Sheena is for Lloyd!

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lloyd is the entire reason i got into tales

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>middle school
>college
>military academy that functions as a high school
you can't defeat them with just "no high school"

knowing tales, it probably would be just high school stuff anyway

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I would guess Japanese Nintendo fans also don't have nearly the "Nintendo cloister" effect you see in North America that gave Symphonia the extra focus. I get the impression it is remembered as another PS2 game there.

Guess I meant that as an umbrella term for the school setting.

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You got me beat in Legendia, around 400 hours, 6th playthrough. I don't get to play that game enough with my backlog, but I've most likely played Symphonia just as much as you back when I was a teenager.

Also, colour me surprised that this thread is still up.

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and apparently ace doesn't sleep.

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God I love these short-hair pairs, they knock it out of the park every time

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Nope.

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Tales loves short haired girls.

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They're perfection

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You know a console doesnt have a lot of RPGs when its fans have nostalgia for a fucking TALES OF game.

That part confused me so much as a kid

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I played through Abyss with 3 other people and it was dope as hell

someone had to keep the thread alive I suppose.

I'm not a fan of short haired girls, yet somehow Tales makes them work.

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people normally do if the game is good.

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Sheena is BEST GIRL

Anyone remember these from old Youtube?


youtu.be/xmyPjih2tnE

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Now it's coming back. Those two-flap mouths sure came in handy.

I remember seeying a lot of solos back in the day
This one still my favorite among all of them
youtu.be/FTDA5_3cwWc

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Multiclassers rise up

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Presea is a literal beast. She was pretty fun to play as too. I remember finally giving Regal a chance after putting him off and realizing the dude is combo heavy. I was shocked.

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i used to listen to these solo videos in the shower 10 years ago

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Does anyone, ANYONE have or know of those Symphonia YTPs with "THE ENTIRE RANCH": "SEA WATER" and "MY BODY, I CANT MOVE MY BODY"

I've been looking for years and never found them ever again, they were so great.

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I for one welcome our variety-show overlords.

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I watched this shit at my public library since I didn't have my own. Running into these videos on masterLL's site was a treat.

This was a really cool game storyline. That build up to a big reveal by the final boss was not a dissapointment. It felt like it would be a let down and something lame like "I was hungry for mana" but he had a legitimate reason to come to their world.

GC bro. We'd play through forest, cave, mine, and ruins on very hard in one run, then fail when we reach mines in ultimate. Pic related is my memory saved onto my pc. All the mains are on my cousins memory card.

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Does anyone have a high-res render of Estelle's valkyrie costume?

Ange's game getting a proper NA release never

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Gonna post this here just because it makes me chuckle every time

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But you can't be too mad, 'cause you gave me an orange gel

Started my GF on a co-op run of abyss this week, she's at Post-van absorbtion gate. Tales really is so much more fun with two people.

Not that one.

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I like every Tales game for the first 12 hours or so, and then I realize the tutorials just keep going and the combat systems get more complex without getting any meaningfully deeper, and the charm of all the characters starts to rub off from the excessive dialogue. Also, the important combat decisions take place in menus

I want her as a cameo boss again.

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Play Legendia. The battle system is simple and feels like a brawler. Characters are deep and interesting, including their interactions with one another. The OST is the best the series has to offer and while it has flaws, it overcome them with charm and wit.

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The writing was so incredibly bad. How the hell can you think it was "fantastic" ?

Theres nothing bad about symphonia's writing, it's generic and cliche, which is why it excels in what it does, playing off cliches to make its characters that much stronger. like all tales of games.

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Gee Zelos! How come Namco lets you have two Mystic Artes?

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What was the point of Symonne again?

You could apply that question to all of Zestiria.

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>Gee Lloyd, why does your dad let you have TWO demon fangs?

I love cute user!

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>still no doujin of dicking some sense into symmone

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Tales of really dropped off the deep end when they started prioritizing lolis

Chat and presea were fine, they had reasons to be "little girls"

Shit like edna, elise, symonne, sophie, elle mel marta and patty, is fucking disgusting and out of place. its one thing to have a little girl, its another to have them for the sole purpose of fan service and marketing.

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Based

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Elle's an actual child though.

little girls are gay

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>tfw

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that there's no sequel to Legendia and that you've been patiently waiting for 15+ years? and then they get your hopes up with Sword of Legendia only to silently cancel it?

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Sure, let's go with that

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>Sword of Legendia
??

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as long as we somewhat agree.

it was announced back on the Wii (2006?) and apparently they were working on it. they showed concept art of a women, who appeared to be an older, more mature looking Chloe. they said it have nothing to do with Legendia (doubtful) and they it was silently canned, and then officially when interviewed about the prgress.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Legendia

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Goddamnit. Oh well.

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>more mature
She's already a bombshell

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If I am not mistaken, Malik from Graces gets a weapon called "Sword of Legendia" too so it just seems too much to be a coincidence.

honestly it still bothers me... and it's going on 13 years now.

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I should have said more mature looking, you can tell they aged the character if it really is Chloe.

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Hey I got to the final boss TWICE (GameCube and ps3) but can't beat him. What do I do?

what are you having trouble with? i don't remember mithos being that difficult.

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>Can't beat him
...How? Mithos is an absolute pushover for tales bosses. are you level 65? and did you defeat the fugitive, judged and neglected? They each hold his elemental resistances, if you don't defeat them he will not lose his resistance.

Does Muzet ever amount to anything?

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Being a slut.

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do you have any pictures of Rubia or Caius, ace?

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Technically Phantasia was my first game, but it's such a slow game, Destiny was even worse and Eternia has no skits or extra story threads. For the time, this was really a breakout game in the franchise considering how outdated the others were becoming.

I just like when girls in a game where people fight with swords and dangerous monsters only wear a bodysuit and some accessories, basically naked.

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Symphonia really evolved the series into what it is today. It's just a shame that they seem to be straying from the path as of late while continuing with the basics like skits and such.

that is damn lewd.

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Jesus

She's just confident is all.

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Well, I don't even remember but thanks for that. I'm playing it tomorrow for sure

Must be if she's not even worried about falling over and ripping a hole in her bodysuit

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Or seeing all through the clothes.

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not when it comes to swimming.

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Yep.

Everyone's got a weakness in some manner.

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true, but when the guy you are head over heels with is an excellent swimmer you should do something about said weakness to enjoy similar activities.

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Girls that only wears a bodysuit are the best.

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How the fuck is there so little art of her in this swimsuit?

I just finished Zestiria and Berseria.

Zestiria was the better game.

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Is there anyone that unironically, genuinely thinks Zestiria is a good game?

it has the greatest tales character at least

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