More like Onions. Only garbage players use him

I love onions. Best vegetable.

>Thousands of shitters are "spy mains" with sfm spy avatars
>All of them bought australium ambassador
>All of them miss and always got killed
>Ambassador gets nerfed
>Spy mains seethe
>Their edgy unusuals drop in price as well

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>do nothing but pepper people walking out of spawn with the revolver
>eight people start chasing me around the map trying to kill me

Haaaw, the poor little man has been backstabed? Don't you like it in the rear, friend?

>Pull off a YER
>second he dies, he tells his team a YER spy is around
So much for that.

>get killed by weeb spy with kunai

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>Play heavy with medics healing me
>Spy kills me instead of the medic for an easier point rather than actually helping his team

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>with sfm spy avatars
why is it always this? whenever the avatar is art of a class (except default steam avatars)

They are usually commissioned I think

>faggot thinks his 6v6 spergfests matter

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>wear a Razorback while sniping
>position myself literally next to attacking teammates and move up with them
>Spy comes around
>tries to revolver me
>I can actually headshot him at close range but should I fail he is assfucked by literally every person around because he was too tunnelvisioned on killing me

>exploits cl_interp too

TF2 has to have the most cringe playerbase out of any game out there, even more so than Overwatch. I play it a little bit now and again and it's ALWAYS full of furries, anime faggots, bronies etc.

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>disguise as one of my teams friendly heavies and start backstabbing people
>heavy gets upset people are killing him agayn

Tell me, gentlemen. How to use the DR and not be cancer? Disguise myself as my team?

>furries, anime faggots, bronies etc
I don't get it, that rarely ever happens to me. Cheaters are actually a much more common occurence. Is it american thng?

I play on euro servers, they're always full of them. I never got on a server where everyone was just a normal person. It's always ERPing anime niggers and shit like that. A lot of them cheat on top of being faggots too, yeah.

I fucking hate Spies so much.

I fucking hate any class in TF2 that fucking kills me.

i mostly just get Yea Forums spergs nowadays. you know, the type with ironic anime avatars that spout memes in chat and try to "trash talk" you while they have their tranny pics on their steam profile

FUCK SPY

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>EU servers
there you go

furries anime and bronies are funny, the trannies are what I'm concerned with

As an animefagging myself, shit talk is the best when it leads to posts like yours, especially after getting stomped in games.

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I play on Euro servers and I haven't seen any ERPers, maybe Spaniards being annoying and overly talkative on chat.

>enter server
>first thing I do is type "dilate" in chat
>instant spergout of 6 people

post your steam profile, i need a good laugh

Yes, you do that.

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steamcommunity.com/id/Okyuun
Sure, anything to make an user smile.

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I love killing spies as scout. Mad milk and wrap assassin also fucks them up

>Play red medic on upward with a couple heavies and soldiers
>Keep seeing my teams engis complain about all the spies
>in a 20 minute match havnt seen a single spy as the teams only medic
>mfw they had 4 unusual wearing lime painted kunnai spies harrassing our 2 engineers as I kritzed for the 8th time in a life

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>that avatar
>level 97
>touhou
>skyrim
>those groups
>literal walls of text of jap shit
>11 friends (lmao, all weebs too)
>three thousand hours of autism fortress
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA just delete this post holy shit AHSAHAHA

>be DB/DR/CK Spy with Cheater's Lament
>instant salt
Glorious.

You aren't seriously pretending Overwatch isn't made up of the same people, right? You aren't aware off the bat as you can't see these people, or their avatars, unlike on TF2, but I can assure you there's an equal amount of shitters on both ends. Although, I'd argue you're just as much of a faggot for posting that k-pop shit.

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steamcommunity.com/id/lordexor

If you want a good laugh check this out, he was an admin of a hightower server and did nothing but play as heavy and got mad and tried to kick me for staying in spawn at one point, but he kicked the wrong person, I was also already out of spawn for 5 minutes by the time he finally kicked me

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Glad it made you laugh.
See you on Dustbowl.
Also, I technically have 5500 on TF2.

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>people call Spy garbage
>decide to play dead ringer spy
>decide to use the big earner to recharge my feign death quicker and run to more backs
>go gunspy with the free crits from my Diamondback while my feign death recharges
Lmao. Spy gets nerfed into the ground and I can consistently be one of the top scoring players on my teams with him. Meanwhile, Pyroshitters need an entire update to fix their shitty (and still shitty) class.

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>posting a pretty girl is the same as being a man that wants to fuck cartoon horses and other men dressed as foxes

we got one boys

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>all those games less than 1 hour playtime
But why?

MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD

Do you think it's fair that people who abused of a glitch got FREE UNUSUALS while those who decided to not screw the economy are left with NOTHING? I urge everyone to message the TF Team (valvesoftware.com/it/contact?recipient=TF Team) and send'em this message, in order to at least get a form of encomium for not having took part in this mess.

Thank you.

----------------------------------------------------------

Hello TF Team,

I understand why you decided to not punish the people who profited of the "Guaranteed Unusual" glitch: because after all it was all your fault and make people pay for your mistakes would have not been fair. But what about those who decided to not take advantage of this crazy situation and got NOTHING? I, like many other people, decided to not abuse this glitch to get easy unusuals because it was an UNETHICAL thing to do, out of respect for Valve and the game economy.

Some people made a massive profit by selling a very expensive unusual they got at the first try. Moreover, even if the rest of their hats are untradeable, those are still luxury items, which normally you wouldn't get so easily.

So, what's the lesson to be learned here?

"You found a cool bug? Abuse the shit out of it, since you'll actually be rewarded for it! Be a nice guy and not fuck the system? Lol, you get nothing! Try next time, friend."

Nice move guys, very appreciated. It seems that being an honest person doesn't pay off these days.

Frankly, get your shit together.

Peace.

- A disappointed player

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spy a fun

>avatarfagging is just as bad as literal freaks who also avatarfag
More news at 11

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Why not ?
Got most of those for pennies anyway
I just end up playing something I find more interesting or whip out old games on my consoles.

Oh fuck I can smell the entitled incel attitude through the screen

>tfw you bait half a pub team into going Pyro by simply playing Spy and doing literally anything besides suiciding into the enemy
>immediately switch to Demo to harvest my crops

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I get it, cause he's french.

No wait that's garlic

But you spend like 9 hours on a Sakura game and 0.3 hour in, say Nekopara
Your taste in weeb game sure is peculiar

>avatarfagging
not even the same person you schizo

It was left open, hours are inflated user.
As for Nekopara, it isn't that great.
Most of the "weeb" garbage I like aren't on Steam anyway

>most points
>107
How is this possible? How long was the match?

achievement maps

>Have a weeb name and play with the kunai
>Occasionally get someone on the enemy team calling me "This fucking weeb Spy"

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>Hes never had that 5cp game that never ends
My best is 98 from suiciding as a phlog pyro when the enemy team decided 4 engineers on last was the way to victory

Oh, I'm sorry, were you having fun? Shame I happened to join your server mate

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Shit spies do. A good one just ignores you until the rest of the team is dead and respawning

If the sniper is the biggest threat, I don't see why I should not 2-3 tap him with Revolver/Amby.
I can still escape and proceed to stab a few.

I mean I'd you can get away with it, why not. But in his context if you're gonna die trying to kill him why would you unless you're bad? Might as well kill the heavy medic combo first

It was actually one of those pokemon maps

You aight white boy. I would send a request but that's gay

Nigger what? Have you never been on a stalemate map before?

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If a spy dies killing a sniper it's a win for his team

A good sniper can lock down a path. Dying to get that sniper out of the game for a few seconds can buy your team some precious time and be more than worth it.

It's only worth it if he kills a medic in the process. A lot of snipers can miss their shots but even the most braindead, retarded medics can still support their team.

>taunt kill you
eh, nothing personal

Bames Jond disagrees

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>trickstab you by accident
>taunt
spy can be fun

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Bullshit. Have you seen the Sigma tweets?

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Mannrobics >>> Conga

And krazotsy kick>>>>>>both of them

Schadenfreude > Kazotsky Kick > Any other taunt in the game

>imagine comparing your "PTSD" or Sharting Personality Disorder to serious mental illness that gets you locked up for your own safety

Why the fuck is engie so fun? I'd hate this kind of class in basically anything else but not here

The difference is that I guarentee you that twitter faggot doesn't actually play the game.

Even Victory Lap?

Dilate tradetranny

Victory Lap is an interesting taunt but it's nowhere near as comedic and potentially inflammatory as taunting with the Schadenfreude or Kick can be.

>overextend with my shotgun
>end up almost dead
>run away
>my sentry wipe my pursuers
feels good mate

Because who doesn't love a Texan with a shotgun that has the ability to fuck people over through creative building?

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>a friend sold his vintage Camera Beard for almost 4 bucks thanks to this retarded shit
TF2 traders truly are a unique brand of retards.

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>tfw actually a Texan and engineer is my worst class

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I frogot to put the ac on and now my pc is around 110 f and my wifi card is getting even hotter
RIP

You should be ashamed, cowboy.

Do you actually know Jap, or are you just being cringey?

want some tips for engi?
kinda sad someone doesnt like engi because its a really fun class especially with gunslinger

Oh look, free kills

I actually know Japanese and went to Tokyo for a while.
I don't have the best level, but I can hold a decent conversation.

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I like playing engie but I just can't get the hang of him. I'm more used to playing offensively as a battle engineer with the gunslinger and mini sentry

That makes the Overwatch fanbase even worse

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i can't fucking believe that this is how playing as heavy feels like

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>shitting on retards who walk in front of your huge gun
I don't see what's wrong with it

I'd like some tips on Gunslinger use.
I get that you can surprise people and ambush them, getting some quick kills for Frontier Justice before it's inevitably destroyed, but assembling a Lv3 seems more effective to me even with the additional time and metal cost.

>Spy goes for the Heavy instead of picking the Medic first
Poor show.

Leaving a helpless medic is often better than killing it and having the Heavy mow down the rest.

Redpill me on this retarded meme

ok i have time now so i can type those tips anyway
-think of yourself as the point defense/infrastructure class. You defend key points with your sentry gun and and keeping the front line well supplied (with dispensers) and well manned (with teleporters)
-your sentry gun isnt really that big of a deal for the attacking team if they know what theyre doing. You shouldnt rely too much on it and be able to actually defend yourself (especially that the shotgun is actually a pretty good weapon)
-related to the last point: with the sentry element of surprise is key. you should often relocate your sentry to different places so that people cant take care of it as soon as they notice you.
-DO NOT BUILD YOUR DISPENSER AND TELEPORTER NEAR YOUR SENTRY. Because for 1. building your buildings near each other is very easy way to off yourself and 2. those buildings are often better in different spots (ie not in the same spot) and 3. your dispenser and tele will be much better for your team while you can easily go on foot to your sentry spot and get metal from ammo pickups.
-dont constantly hit your sentry with the wrench, keep an eye out on your surroundings and make good use of the wrangler and rescue ranger when you cant be near your sentry
gunslinger tips:
-dont forget about the dispenser and the teleporter, making even a lvl 1 building of each will help your team exponentially
- mini sentry is disposable as fuck, dont even bother repairing or moving it, just place it in a good spot and wait for it to get kills and be destroyed
-from my experience giving your sentry some cover really increases its effectiveness. i always build it like half covered behind a box so it can be harder to detect and harder to hit
-actively participate in fighting. since the shotgun does a lot of damage by itself and the mini sentry can also do something when you give it a second to build, you can win a lot of fights

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>literally W+M1ing everything
OH NO NO NO HEAVYBROS

Sure, but the Big Earner was made so you wouldn't compromise with pocket Medics, just stab the doctor and then use the extra speed to outmaneuver the pivoting Heavy.

I'm actually surprised the Big Earner sees so little use.

I think it's mostly because of the low survivability.
I'd rather use the Kunai most of the time because I can get away with it after a stab.

different user here
i really prefer the eternal reward since a lot of people still can not notice you backstabbing a person and therefore you can easily backstab a lot of people without dealing with them counterattacking
although i need to stick to my disguise as tightly as my skin since taking it off means i need to spend my whole invisibility to get it back

I love using it. The speed boost you get from a single back stab solves Spy's problem of immediately dying as soon as he drops his disguise. It's great for running away or getting in more back stabs ahead of you

>trash at everything I play
>play spy for like two games and completely turn around games with string of backstabs and harassment
>go back to being trash at every other class because I don't like playing spy when there's already two

*muffled french laughter*

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>The kunai meme
Instantly identify a bad spy who uses it as a crutch and can't survive with his game sense alone after a stab, even more so with DR. Stock Spy is the only respectable way to play him

>Here, buy yourself some DOCTEUR!

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Except I run Stock Invis, Etranger and stock knife 99% of the time ?
Keep yapping, if I had to choose I'd take Kunai over Big Earner any day.

Nah buddy, I do 15 vs 15 or 1 vs 23 vsh

THE forbidden dance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally everything

>tfw you're the lonely Spy-cicle user
Why does noone use it? It's good

>L'Etranger
Why? Most maps have plenty of metal.

“Where’s my reward for doing nothing” -(You)

>scout main
>decide to play some engie
>no one expects it when you pull out your shotgun

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I was out welding shit for money when this all went down so I couldnt give a shit either way.

>Commissioning something that you yourself can do in 15 minutes tops
I knew spy mains had autism but Jesus Christ

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Pic related must be you

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I want new gameplay content!

Just pick an ahegao anime face as a Spy main

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It's a retarded reddit meme called the watcher
People wear those cosmetics, sit in a corner and watch people play the game. That's literally it.
It's a new form of friendlies but reddit is all over it because "so dark and spoopy lol"

Boring. I need something that makes people mad

Traders BTFO

How was he going to get that money not in the form of steambucks?

>I WANT TO BE REWARDED FOR DOING NOTHING!!!
Uninstall TF2 and go somewhere else tranny

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Eternal Reward is a pretty interesting knife but not being able to disguise is a steep price to pay. Spy'sSpy's disguises are weak enough already.

>For estrogen
Every time.

You can disguise now using it, just takes up all your invis charge

Surviving that flame costs you more important picks than you realize.

>He thinks that one six-year-old spamming JoJo themes on the community server is representative of the entire fanbase.

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One bad apple user.

Which is pretty dumb anyway because it essentially forces you to use the CnD and L'etranger. I wish that weapon didn't rely so hard on the rest of your loadout being fit for it.

>for estrogen
some of the tf2 mercs might stand us.. but goddamn i can't think of anyone who wouldn't want to kill this person

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I guess you could say he was a secret asian man

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Eh I think it’s fair for getting silent kills that don’t show up on the feed

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I don't get it

Just pick a disguise on spawn and then stick with it, it's not that bad.

>can't survive with his game sense alone after a stab
Buzzwords upon buzzwords. Survival after a stab is a well known problem the Spy has. 'Game sense' won't save you out of being outgunned.

The stealthy effect is neutered hard if the team communicates, however. Chat is Spy's biggest enemy.

People can be lazier than you can imagine, man. But I'm not going to say no to easy cash.

That’s a pretty big “if” depending on where and when you play. Spy sure as shit needs some kind of buff

respectable out of 10
not an annoying retard with shit taste and 0 braincells, but not a well adjusted member of society either. would add if i werent a timid faggot

>can't survive with his game sense alone after a stab
There is no gamesense involved in getting away after a stab, retard. You used gamesense to know who is a better target to backstab and when to go for it. Getting away from the enemy team after the stabbed victim broadcasted to everyone that he died with a scream that pierces the heavens is down to how stupid the enemy team is at tracking you while you pop back your invisibility, and whether the target you stabbed was close enough to a Pyro who makes your stab a suicide one 100% of the time because you are now on fire anyway. The Kunai is used because it gives you a chance at getting away (i.e. actually getting rewarded by having another shot at backstabbing someone without waiting for the respawn timer to decide to put you back in the game) after having taken the higher risk of potentially getting spotted with 70 health and dying to anything.

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>enemy voice chat and team chat buffs health
How about that?

If you don't have a loadout like this, then you aren't a real Spy main.

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Killing people with L'etranger never gets old, however. They think they can't die to it until they do.

If you can make money off lazy retards by all means. Still hate their laziness though

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I’m incredibly curious as to how that would work.

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if you dont like specialist classes just play quake

>you uncloak, 125 health, go after target
>"HEAVY, SPY BEHIND YOU SPY BEHIND YOU, "
>you're now 150 health
This is incredibly dumb

>ruining a $10,000 Crabbemarche suit with Aigis pins
You're a disgrace to Spies everywhere.

It’s so dumb I kind of want to see it implemented

Filter that gives you 5 health every time the enemy team says Spy
If it's said by the player you killed while they're dead you gain 15 instead

Thanks.
I seldom accept random invites if ever though. Also it's most likely you're on the other end of the globe.

>Enemy players is spamming songs
>you are now immortal

I'll send you a friend request, user. Let's hang out.

>someone plays Right Behind You
>all Spies in the game now get reduced cloak drain rate and faster movement speed

Fixed it for you ;)

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I smell a fucking weeb...

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There's nothing wrong with running Diamondback and if you disagree you're most likely a shitter.

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Spy is the cunning strategists choice.

What's objectively better, photo badge or flair?

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A sign.

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>diamondback user calling anyone a shitter

oh ho ho that slaps me on the knee

It rewards you for doing your job. It's a perfectly reasonable upgrade from stock.

you can't have sex with a robot

Not with that attitude.

She has hands, breasts, a butt, hooves, a tummy, and a mouth. That's more than enough.

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>kpop fag
don't start getting uppity
your kind is just as bad as ironic weebs, furries, bronies etc etc

>Also it's most likely you're on the other end of the globe.
for what it's worth, i live in the southern hemisphere.
>I seldom accept random invites if ever though.
good. most of the retards who post in this board and try to add people are unbearable.

by selling it on that one site

if the girl is artificial, the orgasm is too

Reality is a construct anyway. You can't deter me.

I can't pick one I like, Im just considering refunding this welfare unusual and going back to being a cowboy.

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1 looks the best, but the unusual is kinda shit

Suit yourself
Well, quite a few hours difference then.

>Furries spamming OwO binds in chat over every little thing
>Voicing one complaint about the match results in either getting kicked or some assfaggot trying to roast you while he mumbles under his breathe and pressing the v button because he doesn't have money for a mic
>Hot shittalker has an anime avatar to boot
>A Galore of cheaters, even if you point this out that the enemy team has one they won't get rid of the cheater
>A galore of wallhacking aimbotting snipers that use the excuse of "Dude i'm just always maining sniper" and everyone defends him even if his model is jittering like crazy
>Friendlies that hijack servers
>Hightower hasn't been playable in years because Soldiermains said so
>One butthurt player resulted in malware sprays that crashed servers
>One butthurt player resulted in aimbot snipers which ruined servers
>Retarded made up terms like Turtling because we need a reason to why we're getting assfucked by sentries in places sentries would normally be in
>"HURR DUR DA DEMO IS STICKY SPAMMING"

I play this game a lot because it can be fun but I'm not gonna pretend that the community isn't hot fucking garbage that parades itself on the fact it can say Nigger and Overwatch can't

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>nu-wojack is spreading to virgin and chad too now

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>mfw spy mains think their 1337 because they stomp retarded 7 year olds on 2fort pubs
>mfw weebs seethe when I don't fall for their faggot trickstabs
>mfw shutting down spy mains just by checking my back
>mfw "Spy Main left the game (disconnect by user)."

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> mfw your grammar is terrible

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We don't have enough Trench Engies. Be the difference.

Christ alive

>malware sprays
Explain further.

I mean, why would I ignore a free kill?

Or are you seriously the type of retard that thinks you can kill the spy before he shoots you down with the revolver?

spies, scouts, and snipers always the biggest attention whore classes

It's always a good time killing a Razorback that things he's invincible with the fencing taunt.

Have sex, tradetranny

Analyze from which pathways enemy players come from and place your sentries on an area that can cover all paths

Why though? Why do they pride themselves on being annoying obnoxious douchebags that nobody likes?

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God I fucking hate OwO furries. They're the ironic weebs of the furry fandom. The line is thin but I can at least respect someone who dedicates themselves to fucking hot animals instead of being an absolute retard online.

they enjoy the spotlight even if it's wholly negative, I guess
it also doesn't help that they can get pretty easy kills safely and still have enough time to taunt for the deathcam

With the amount of shitters that forget Spy has a gun I can't blame him for thinking that.

imagine going back in time 10 years with your shit meme words. everyone would fucking kill you for sounding like a moron.

When you're in a server you end up having to download the spray into your folder so you can see it in whatever server you're in
This is automatic

So when malware was pushed into a specific spray it caused crashes, so servers just disabled sprays for a good while

Copenhagen

fixed that for you

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>create tons of cheese pizza sprays
>go into as many servers as possible and spray them under props where they're can't be seen then leave
I wonder if someone has done this yet.

>i murdered your MEDIC

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>can fake death
>can go invisible
>disguise as your teammates
>can headshot
>one hit kills you from behind
>*stabs you while you're in the middle of a firefight*
UHHH ACTUALLY SPY IS THE MOST SKILLED CLASS

>me triggstub
>me stab u wiv lay ten see
>me skill
Play a real class like demo or soulja

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Favorite voicelines? For me it's
>if I wasn't the man I was I would KISSYA

>Uses a class with splash damage
>Thinks he's more skilled

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>Switch to sandvich to bait a decloak
>180 and watch them practically shit themselves
>Beat his ass to death with my bare hands
I live for these moments

>Badboyscout+used+roll+picturebadboyscout+rolled+imagetfw+she+found+the+spare+
what

i can't even enjoy this game anymore, just reinstalled it last night, played around for a few hours, it was okay before i started getting really serious or competitive about winning and now i just seethe like a retard whenever i get killed or lose the match, introducing their shit eye candy XP bars and medals was a mistake, it makes you want to just play so you can see that shit go up instead of playing for fun like you used to back then.

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>projectile classes

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im aware that valve servers have basically disabled sprays (you can only see sprays that you have seen before), while a number of community servers have sprays as donator-only
it'd be pretty funny for a while, but most likely the people who were on your servers would get let go and then you'd get arrested instead

it'd probably completely kill off sprays too, and valve would most likely replace it with the shit monetized system used in CSGO

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>you can only see sprays that you have seen before
So new players don't see anything ever?

If it's the ones you can use
>Pain is weakness leaving the body!
If the ones that are played automatically
>You live in a VAN! HAHAHAHAHA

Is it worth coming back and playing this game? Haven’t touched it since ‘13

Looking for a time waster until MCC

>it makes you want to just play so you can see that shit go up

>actually being this vapid

Don't worry, that shit stops mattering after a while. You'll realize it's your innate competitive nature that's behind all of it like it happened with me. I'm good enough with every class, but not to the point where I can carry 11 players, that I can no longer play anything in this game without eventually starting to take it seriously and get angry at myself for not doing better.

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i found community servers to be a blast, on casual playing with friends is great.
what my friends do on ctf maps like 2fort is we all go engie and take over the enemy flag room and turn it into a nest of sentries and various people who wanted to join in.
its great fun and causes seething

yes, unless they go on anything that isnt a valve server

How does it feel to contribute to the socioentropic human degeneracy quotient and know that you are one of many who will be removed or corrected during the normalisation process?

Go to bed, Jaden.

Nope, the weapon "balance" took a turn for the worse and it only amplified what was already broken, not to mention the influx of Fortnite babies, discord trannies, and compfags. It also runs worse since they've done nothing for the spaghetti code.

>the normalisation process
Man, what a massive normalfag. Kill yourself.

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Is Partyvan still alive and what is the IP?

Your feet are already on that pedestal, tranny.

I've already tried joining custom servers like in the maps where you can just have fun and do whatever you want but even that started to feeling old. It just doesn't feel as fun or good as it used to, sometimes it can be fun I guess, sure but it just doesn't feel right anymore for the most part.

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>try to import an spray from my anime folder
>Tf2.exe has crashed

To be fair, asbmore time goes on the more souless it becomes. Kids are appropriating old memes and board culture while the game stagnates
>Redditor hat
>Zoomer hat
>Ricardo hat

>get reported through the official report system for spreading the joys of the cute and the funny
>nothing happens
I wonder if that shit actually does anything. Either way, it's exactly why I love this game.

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Comp snipers have like an 80% accuracy. When you consider most of those shots are instant kills against your medic/team, dying for a sniper is fine. ESPECIALLY if your sniper is still alive.

Although if you were thinking of casuals, then yes dying for a F2P sniper is terrible.

Considering the prevailing political and social idealogies of the modern day are brought to life by "normalfags" and are the cause of the dangerously high human degeneracy quotient, you may find many of these so called 'normalfags' on the physical or proverbial chopping block when the time comes, those who are too mindless to hold any strong opinions of their own, will instead be recycled to support entropy reducing idealogies and practices.

Are hats tradable yet?

Based schizo

but i've only been up for 6 hours user, i'm not a pensioner

what are you even on about buddy

wew, rename your objector too
its hilarious how much shit you can get away with on the photo or objector or any of that, i've seen people with swastikas on theirs

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Stop worrying about XP bars. I never even look at mine and couldn't tell you off hand what level I am.
Do what you can to win the match, but realize that in the end the outcome of the match means nothing.

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I don't feel anything because I do not concern myself with such trivialities.
Living my life in a manner I find satisfying is more than enough.
You can keep your pseudo sciences/psychology to yourself.

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so what's the lore behind multiple copies of classes being in the game at once

next week, so probably this coming monday?

even if you win, the outcome isnt good unless you had fun
speaking of, its funny coming across zoomer-tier cheaters who get really mad if you don't react to their shit

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post sauce

timdenee.com/Respawn-Hypothesis

There are like two people at valve working on TF2 now. You think people actually read reports?

I always interpreted the class copies as being other people rather than clones, since RED/BLU are bound to have more mercenaries working for them than just 9 people and the cosmetics allow your class to be a completely different person than someone else's

I was hoping for a Cheater's Lament-type thing, since I didn't have any crates and didn't want to bother with trading, but I don't really mind not getting it. Who cares?

The comic states that the game is a "dramatic retelling".

They only do shit about profile pics.

We need to continue with this.
>voice command menu 2 shares a command with menu 1
>menu 3 only has 8 commands
>Medic has a unique command
Give each class a fitting unique command and add two more general ones, Yea Forums.
I say:
Sniper ahead!
Watch out for stickies!
And maybe:
They have Uber!
I'm out of ammo!
And for each class:
Scout:
Soldier: I AM ANGRY
Pyro:
Demo: I have a trap down!
Heavy: I have lunch for you!
Engie: Watch my nest!
Medic: I have Uber!
Sniper:
Spy: Distract them!

I've gotten over 200 before on Powerhouse.

>tfw switch to cloak and dagger
>making to the battle field takes forever and trying to sneak up on people doesn't work because uncloaking takes too long
>switch to stock
>desperately running around scrambling for ammo packs and actually getting a few backstabs in the process
I don't go for disguises because it's just impossible.

>mfw top scoring game after game as spycicle spy during the Pyro update
That was the most tense fun I've had in ages.

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>tfw you trot near some boxes and the enemy team doesn’t notice you for the entire round

Good luck getting any VA but scout to come back to record those.

this

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>tfw was playing all while this was going down
>didn't feel like spending money on gaudy cosmetics that may or may not get pruned
>they don't
I am kicking myself so hard. It's a salt mine in there. I would've bought at least 3 to dab on the tradefags.

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>tfw you cashed out all of your TF2 goodies before the hatpocalypse hit

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How about special help! lines for when you have the intel, kinda like when you are on point/payload

>Medic: I have Uber!
Medic already has that, user.

I made a thousand on a lonely Pipeline server once

Give us an expanded voice command menu where you can quickly pick a line out of all possible lines for that character. It would increase spamming by a tenfold and that's a good thing

I love it, except the downside is fucking retarded.
There's a whole knife dedicated to health. Just make the Big Earner have a different downside.
>No longer gets cloak on kill and no longer gets boosted on non-backstab kill.
>Speedboost now compounds if you get one while already boosted. So, if you still have a second of boost left and stab someone, you get the three seconds just tacked onto the end, for a total of 4 seconds.
>Instead of lowering health, it now drops speed by 15%, to Demo speed, after three seconds of having the knife out, and for three seconds after holstering it.

youtube.com/watch?v=EGcQtNeOz6Y

Spy can fake reload always.
Spy can toggle disguise or real speed.
Spawn wallhacks don't work on Spies.
Disguise animation bugs fixed.
First and third-person animations for disguising and for cloaking/uncloaking are synced.
No on-hit effects (Building rage by hitting cloaked Spy, for example) work on disguised or cloaked Spies unless they kill them.
Cloaked Spies near dispensers or Payload carts can heal, get revolver ammo, and recharge cloak meter with Stock watch regardless of current disguise.
Spy can see loadouts like he can see health and Uber meters. This includes weapons, ammo loaded, ammo stored, rechargeable meters, Rage meters, enemy heads, etc. Does not work on enemy Spies.
On disguise kit, Spy can see enemy team make-up, dead and alive.
When holding disguise kit, Spy can see the outline of anyone he's disguised as. Does not work on enemy Spies.
Spy gets 20% damage resistance when disguised.
Revolvers have quicker cool down.
-Debatable buffs below:
On backstab, Spy gets 1.5 second speed boost like Big Earner's effect. (Big Earner does something else). A backstab while boosted, from a previous backstab or from something else, will add the 1.5 seconds after the end of the current boost.
Spy can slide sappers (Crouch+M1) a short way to hit buildings or block enemies from using health kits and ammo packs.
Sappers recharge after 1 second on placement and 4 seconds on slide, and slid ones can be broken with two melee strikes. Pickups being sapped cannot be picked up by enemies or despawn, and respawn 2 seconds faster.

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>Administrator has them in tubes
>from their tubes, they control clones
>each of them controls two clones at once and doesn't realize they're fighting themselves

I know. In the place where he has that, each other class would get a unique one.

That's pretty gay and the graphic design is the only thing it has going for it.

Merasmus' "Kill me come back stronger" pills.

Spy needs a time machine watch, so when he fails trickstabs, he can try them again and again.
Spy should have a ultimate meter that fills up just by walking. When he uses it, a cutscene will play on everyone's screens where all the other classes should be asking, "Where's Spy?" Spy will then backstab the entire enemy team at once and say "right behind you!" And then he strikes a Jojo pose.

Is Frontier Justice + Gunslinger a good combo? Or should I go with the regular shotgun?

Demoman_cheers07.mp3

Random crits, so stock

Ok now this is epic.

>The tears of compfags, when you own them as a Pyro

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Hightower that was turned into a Team Deathmatch.
Fuck I loved Payload Race, but what good is it when no one's pushing.

What's Sigma?

That's actually even worse.

>Kp*p nigger posting plastic gooks thinking he's above anyone

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Latest Overwatch hero, people are butthurt Blizz made a white male hero for the first time in three years.

>makes him a villain
>sjws still mad

Post loadouts and rate

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Sigma balls

>tfw didnt have the game installed for the unusual glitch, and didnt give much of a shit to install it to get them
Bit sour grapes that I missed out, but it was more fun seeing all the people seethe about it

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>astrophysicist
>from the Netherlands
>yeah, let's name him like that other famous astrophysicist from the Netherlands
Why the fuck is Blizzard so fucking unoriginal in naming their characters?
Like naming Mercy Angela because she has Angel wings. Chu must think of himself as a genius.

shadow clone jutsu

I thought people were mad because they didn't give him shoes.

Spy can autokill faraway enemies with one click.

not since they nerfed the ambassador

pretty nice
here's my summerfag heavy
the unusual is a bugged one, before you ask

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The guy who died of ligma.

>when you use the enforcer and no skill 2 shot a twitch streaming razorback sniper over and over again and he finally gets ass blasted and says "use the ambassador if you're going to play gun spy noob."
Nah nigger just gonna keep ruining your experience and stream until you take your camping fag ass back to counter strike

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Underrated cosmetics?

I wish I can believe that this is a parody of the "suggestions" for buff, but I've seen stupid shit like this that either does too little to affect the game, is way too overpowering, or just plain bad.

Something Spy definitely needs is some way to deal with a player just randomly deciding to turn around. It should force the Spy to disengage and try again in a bit, but it should not be a guarantee of death that someone just decided to check their back while you did everything else right. Which is funny because this is exactly what the DR was and is why many Spies used it, before it got nerfed into oblivion just because Dr. Enforcicle used to be a thing.

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Is that dog going to dunk me?

Maybe if you're within a certain range of someone that you're looking at, you can cloak a lot faster and don't sheen when hit for 3 seconds or something? That would be cool.
>coming up on a soldier
>See him turn around
>as a reaction, cloak and start running away
>you can actually get away unless he gets lucky

>coming up on a soldier
>soldier doesn't turn around
>but a nearby heavy sees you
>you still cloak and sheen as usual

how do I get good at soldier and demoman

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All of these are pretty good suggestions, though. Not overpowered, fits Spy's theme, etc.
Most are pretty small, but small things build up.

Shoot explosive at enemy.

Ebenezer

>Join trade server
>Play engineer and dunk vip trade shitters who can barely play the game, out of oblivion
>Talk smack extensively until the s0uiy admin shows up
>Roast him him so hard over vc he either makes himself invincible to destroy all your buildings or kicks/bans
Feels good man

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That would be a pretty good idea. At this point I really do think Spy should be the one to get an update if the Heavy one ever comes out and Valve ever cares about this game. The changes to Pyro only made playing Spy even more of a pain.

>sodielr
>jump and shoot and aim at feet
>crouch while rocket jumping and get the nearest health pack

>demoman
>spam the shit out of your stickies and pipes, but actually hit them
>equip the charging tide to fuck over pyros, every other shield is frankly shit

>play 2fort
>cap the objective
>some seething brainlet on the other team starts spamming a "Only retards cap the objective in 2fort" bind

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spy, scout, and sniper are only played by edgy weebs

pyro is played soly by furries and trannies who cant aim and can only handle holding LM

demo and soldier are for the """veterans"" who think their ability to spam AoE projectiles and rack up kills has anything to do with their """""""skill"""""""

medic is for people who dont like playing first person shooters and just want to run and around healing the people who do

Engineer is for people who like to (A) camp or (B) be super aggro with a shotgun but dont want to play scout

Heavy players are the good people left in this shitty economy simulator. Played soly by noobs and vets. He looks cool but gets shit on by basically everyone.

>t. 2010

You must develop a sixth sense to see where enemies will be in the next half second to aim accordingly.

>Heavy players
Don't exist.

>Spy can toggle disguise or real speed.
>No on-hit effects (Building rage by hitting cloaked Spy, for example) work on disguised or cloaked Spies unless they kill them.
>Spy can see loadouts like he can see health and Uber meters. This includes weapons, ammo loaded, ammo stored, rechargeable meters, Rage meters, enemy heads, etc. Does not work on enemy Spies.
>On disguise kit, Spy can see enemy team make-up, dead and alive.
>When holding disguise kit, Spy can see the outline of anyone he's disguised as. Does not work on enemy Spies.
>Spy gets 20% damage resistance when disguised.
Why not just give him crutches while you're at it

Minigun is the easiest weapon to use in the entire game

>Spy needs buff
>Le one click overcharge killer needs a buff
Maybe if you play on 32 man skial servers

>Spy disguised as scout thinks he’s fooling everyone
>He calls for a medic

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A real Texan would have dodged that

>The Medic goes and heals him anyway and doesn't notice the """Scout""" moving at a snail's speed

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I never found Ligma funny, but why is this shit amusing me to no end?

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I haven't played in forever but apparently halloween spells from the merasmus map are absurdly expensive now. Where would I go to try to sell some shit I have with spells on them?

If you're playing against non-braindead people, Spy has a pretty hard time doing his one click kill on targets that actually matter.

just accept that your shit class is shit spy mains. You can battle with pyrofags for king of trash mountain

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You have to learn how to lead projectiles depending on how far you are from your target.
The further they are, the more you have to aim ahead to compensate for travel time. The closer they are, the close you aim to them.
Try and read their movement

Next you have to get used to each projectiles speed (stickies are the slowest, grenades are the fastest, rockets are inbetween). That'll come with play time.
Keep in mind Demoman's projectiles don't come out exactly where your crosshair is, they come out a little higher and to the right of it due to the arc. Stock grenade launcher pills spin when they're shot so they're a bit unreliable when it comes to direct hits, Iron Bomber pills are consistent.

Unlike hitscan you want to hit where you target *will* be, not where they *are. It's something you'll have to pick up on as you play, but it helps to try and look for patterns in your target's movement. Try not to panic and just spam shots, as tempting as it might be. Take a quick moment to watch where they're going and shoot.

Scouts counter Demoman so try to avoid close range combat with them at all times, zone them with stickies and stick close to a team mate if a good one is giving you hell. Generally It's pretty easy to shoot people as they're jumping since it gives them predictable path, but keep in mind Scouts can double jump to mixup and punish you.
If you're playing Soldier try to land a good hit on them with your rockets and finish them off with your shotty. Don't be afraid to rocket jump away to heal or get higher ground on them.

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>What sick man sends BABIES to fight?

At least it throws off Snipers

>spy scout has become the new disguise meta
How

I find it funny how the Sandman is up there among the fastest projectiles in the game, yet people who think the stun was balanced on it will hate on its nerf by saying "lol just dodge the ball, it's easy"

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Nah, retards here defend it because of the muh compfag boogeyman.

You okay bro?

spy is a class for memeing on people and doesn't need to be any more viable than it currently is

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>tfw still play, almost exclusively, the sad neutered corpse that is combo pyro
I still remember the good old days when you could kill a heavy in 2 seconds

Some of them are quality of life fixes that won't work on sufficently paranoid players and most of the others are crutch buffs.
Only the revolver buff is good.

I would have screencapped your post if you made a fuck huge typo for demoman too because I'm laughing my ass off at "sodielr"

>medic getting harrased by scout
>hit him with the double donk
>medic says nice shot
make me feel happy

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Is that why I find myself playing heavy more and more often?
>brass beast/shotgun when we have a medic
>makes the game more interesting because you actually have to use both weapons to not get shit on completely
>medic is happy that he has a heavy that actually protects him

>natasha/steak/KGB when we dont have a medic
>sneak to their backline and assassinate all of their snipers with KGB and zoom to the front line to get some more kills
>natasha fucks scouts
It's just fun.

What is the most cancer weapon in the game in your opinion?

>he plays sixes

You don't abuse the system expecting something in return, You don't abuse the system because that's the right thing to do

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>phlog

Why was the close-range class having a 2 shot combo bad again? I bet those same faggots cry when they get melted by phlogs now. Combo Pyro with the new airblast would've been more open to counterplay but oh well.

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vaccinator

I'm madly in love with Yuuri. 1.She probably smells good 2.She is brave and selfless 3.Her attitude keeps spirits up 4.Her body is wonderfully proportioned 5.She has pretty eyes 6.Scientifically proven high adaptability 7.She gives off a sense of warmth and softness 8.She is beautiful. 9.Hair tastes good. 10.Great sense of rhythm. 11.She would keep you warm and share food with you. 12.She is good at pressing buttons. 13.She would be a good mother. 14.Right amount of crazy. 15.Knows how to operate all weapons. 16. Fat teats. 17.She is protective of those she loves. 18.She has no inhibitions. 19.She could make a great meal. 20.She is probably god. 21.She is the coolest person in the world. 22.She inspires creativity. 23.She is very strong. 24.She is difficult to digest. 25.She makes her friend happy. 26.She knows how not to embarrass her friend in heartfelt moments. 27.She always knows the way. 28.Not afraid to experiment with the unknown. 29.Well balanced. 30.Does not get hangovers. 31.Defends the weak. 32.Athletic, could have competed on an international level if the world hadn't ended. 33. Always helpful, regardless of circumstances. 34.Not ashamed by nudity, finds it to be liberating and beautiful. 35.Greatest philosopher of her time. 36.Can harness the power of the moon. 37.Stretchy and cute face. 38.Fears no man or beast, can defeat foes despite obvious physical advantages. 39.High intelligence. 40.Can discern between the inedible and edible. 41.Her body is warm and would be nice to cuddle with. 42.She is a survivor of impossible circumstances. 43.World's greatest riflewoman. 44.Quick reflexes. 45.Great at holding hands. 46.Greatest artist of her time. 47.Not too picky about things. 48.Great with pets. 49.Talented singer. 50.Can hold her liquor. 51.Possible descendant of Finland. 52.God emperor of Dune. 53.Know how to FUSION. 54.Understands the complexity of human nature. 55.Cute giggle. 56.Understands the concept of death. 57.Probably fertile.

black box

>weeb spy names his weapons
>they're all in latin

please, for the love of god, tell me this is something people aren't actually doing

It was more common about 3-4 years ago, i've noticed that their presence has died down.
Animefags have, and will always exist, sadly.

slowing the ball down would've been 10x preferable to ruining the sandman forever, was half the fun of playing scout

>enforcer was around then
>razorback had its no over heal penalty

Tell you what, Spy gets an alternate to the Sapper: A briefcase that allows him to change loadout sets on the spot. Can't modify the sets themselves and can only change if he currently has the briefcase

the sandman should have never existed in the first place. Fuck off with that bullshit. It took them like 10 years but valve actually fixed something

the answer is always black box, bonus points with the battalion backup

killing the heavy you can run away praying that half of the team won't come after you. killing just the medic is a guaranteed death

I feel useless whenever I play spy. I just hate being almost completely defenseless, only contributing with a few backstabs here or there when I could rack up a lot more kills as pretty much any other class. And if there's a sentry nest that's dug in good enough for me to not reach it as an assault class, then it'll probably require more coordination with your team anyway which usually doesn't happen.

Oh hey, is that really you, Yuufriend? I commend you on your love for her. We both have the same waifu and all.

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I like playing gunspy more than actually going for backstabs

There should be an alternative to the invis watch or disguise kit to invalidate them and just let the player run around the map like a sniper/scout abomination.

I think more people would be afraid of spy if spies used their revolvers more often (and aimed correctly). It's his PRIMARY weapon but gets benched for ninja backstabs. Imagine if people walked around shooting weakened targets like he was designed instead of never firing a bullet.

>tfw getting gagged by an admin over 2 text lines of banter

Spy needs an alternative playstyle. Replace his knife for a rapier that lets you party melee as alt fire. Successful parties add to a crit meter but if you whiff you take extra damage.

>Disguises never fool good players!
Bullshit. There are tons of times where small things can lead to suspicious players to disregard their suspicions. For example, seeing a Demo pulling back while reloading would make perfect sense and many people might let a Demo backpedal behind then when they think he just needs to reload.
The idea that disguises are just such a bad idea that Valve shouldn't even bother making them decent is fucking bullshit.
The first six are all small fitting buffs that WILL let some Spies fool enemies, but aren't stupid or overpowered.
The seventh is just for connivence.
The eighth, ninth, and tenth allow a Spy to be more informed and make better decisions, for example, to back off on a Spy with Jarate or the make a Soldier with full rage a high-priority, as well as not disguising as a class the enemy doesn't have, or to keep away from someone you're disguised as, or the find an important target, like a Medic.
The eleventh and twelfth are just small solid buffs, while the last two are big solid buffs.

Yeah, it's always surprising and annoying as shit to face a spy who actually knows how to aim and when exactly to show up. Usually right as you're retreating to pick up some ammo.

Maybe, but I really would like more alternative secondaries which aren't even Sappers.

Post your spray Yea Forums

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I hate how some weapons kill-icons aren't just a small symbol of themselves, like the stock Sniper rifle's.

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please stop trying to make spy some completely overpowered class

you mean the dead ringer? lets you tank a hit from any weapon in the game user. i think that's good enough.

I haven't changed it in a while and I would spray it whenever there were a million snipers on both teams.

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Fuck off nigger, sandman was balanced and honest. Just deflect or dodge the ball.
>bu but sniper cant
Tough shit

What if spy could fake shoot his disguised weapon.

but heavy cant and scout already does plenty to counter him

>Bullshit. There are tons of times where small things can lead to suspicious players to disregard their suspicions. For example, seeing a Demo pulling back while reloading would make perfect sense and many people might let a Demo backpedal behind then when they think he just needs to reload.
You have never heard of adaptation. Sooner or later, people WILL catch on to the new buffs.

None of that is overpowered.

But they won't be able to perfectly.
There are times when, say, I only have one rocket loaded, know there are actual threats nearby, and don't want to Spycheck.
Usually, I still do, but if I, say, saw him reloading, the back of my mind might make the judgment that it's a real ally.
Sure, they don't make him the best class, but they ARE buffs, and the first few really should have been in from the fucking beginning.

nice spacing

Being able to identify a loadout and the amount of uber and rage is horribly overpowered, especially when you can communicate that to your team.

>Just dodge the ball
Like clockwork.

You can already see an enemy Medic's
Uber.
This is just logical extension of that.
Sure, a Spy could communicate that to his team, but the enemy team could communicate where he is to each other, too.
Hell, you can just disguise as the whole enemy team now and tell your allies their loadouts, it just takes longer.

spy is one of the easiest classes in the game with a little game sense.

theres a ton of delusions that were made up to justify maining such an unviable character its sad. literally only good for babysitting retarded new players

>community servers are dead
>can't see sprays on valve servers
fuck you valve

Still the most instructive tutorial even after ten years youtube.com/watch?v=ZI29xEnfTzI

spy is in a weird spot, mainly the the kunai deadringer combo being insanely effective compared to his default kit
>default kit has no recourse if he gets caught other than being lucky that the dude(s) that spotted you fuck up and you get to slip away
>kunai dead ringer kit lets you speed boost away and tank more damage than an overhealed heavy (assuming you get a stab on anyone with more than 50 health) unless you get airblasted or rocketed into a corner or something
i feel like his default kit needs to be improved massively or something

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This used the be the epitome of cancer

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Would play a Team Fortress prequel with this cast

You mean French onion

>no one actually cares about the spy buffs one user suggested

F2P and trading was a mistake.

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It's hard to care when you know they will never, ever be implemented no matter how good they are. There isn't a team large enough to code all of these functions, test it to make sure it's balanced, bug fix it, and also announce it.

Knife too short, Spy needs buff

At least you do, man.
Of course, I don't really believe that anyone from the TF2 team is actually on Yea Forums, but I still like putting them out there as a mental exercise, especially when other people make good suggestions as well.
It's just fun to think about, especially when respawning.

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I liked some user's idea to slide sappers across the floor like the Meet the Spy video.
Could be an alt fire for sappers with a cooldown, stunning buildings within an area for some time.

I think Spy in general is too slow and methodical for a game as fast and hectic as TF2.

pretty good

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What buffs? As far as I know what was proposed is being discussed.

I would rather have it be an alternate sapper, with a nerf to sapping time.

This only happens if you have a good medic.

>used to run a tf2 server around 5 years ago
>was pretty popular, but the then-server owner made some bad decisions
>lost our playerbase
>server ownership transferred to me
>me and my buddies all stopped playing tf2
>tf2 buddies and I have since gone on several vacations together
>tf2 is dead
it's real sad bros

anything that makes disguises more believable is ok in my book as long it doesn't fuck with the speed
The other buffs are absolutely atrocious

what was the name of the server? i probably played on it

Even if they don't get the power to block pickups, just sliding them would be cool and aesthetic.
Non-sapper secondaries could also be cool. Like mine you can place on a wall, or a pair of sticky gloves he can use to climb walls, or some binoculars he can use to see through walls, or other cool spy-tech.

>going on vacations with your tf2bros
Jealous as hell. I've offered doing something similar but each of my long-term buds all work dead-end jobs and never have any money. Fuck everything.

the gibus really completes these webms

tiny hitbox

Which?
He's just so fun to play, though. And a great concept.
The least Valve could do is go through with half-assed concepts like reloading while disguised and seeing the enemy's weaknesses.

I get that, something so one of his slots isn't just dead weight if an Engie doesn't show up.
I was thinking that with Spy's trouble catching people due to his speed maybe you could give him a tranq gun that slows people for a set percentage when hit.

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>whip teammate
>hear the whip hit sound
>no speed boost
is this a bug or a feature?

I fucking hate pocket medics so fucking hard, I get tunnel vision as scout just to kill the medic fucker

Oh, I know. I absolutely adore Spy but he's kind of stuck, it's not rare to have situations where the fight just happens without him.

They want a second whipping.

>give him a tranq gun that slows people for a set percentage when hit.
The gun needs to have fall-off or else people are going to snipe people coming out of spawn with this shit. Make the slow go from 0% effectiveness to X% over a period of time, so that the target doesn't immediately realize they've been tranq'd. That would be really cool

based and simplepilled

It's the same as when you hit someone, you see blood appearing but you didn't really hit them.
In your game you hit them but you didn't really do it as far as the server cares.

You may say that, but ultimately it will still come down to hoping that someone doesn't spycheck.
Fixing disguises is good, but you must remember that you can never really rely on them.

>slowing
Not a good idea. I figure the Sandman and Natascha are likely to get changes effects sometime, because people hate slowing.
An alternate primary with a dart-gun theme would be great, though. It can just use the old tranq gun model, too.
One dart loaded, it's a fast-moving projectile. It has a big damage penalty, but won't make any noise or cause any knockback when it hits an enemy, and could maybe be fired without breaking disguise, though the enemy could still clearly see it coming out of you, as it's a projectile. It could cause marked-for-death for 10 seconds, and could have a 2 person limit, unlike the FoW's 1 person limit.

Sure, but buffing them is still a good idea. Obviously I'm not suggesting these as ways to make Spy a guaranteed pick in comp, but if we can make him a bit better and, especially, more fun in pubs, I'd be happy.

Big Ol' Rotation. We were in the top 100, but never that all impressive

It's way more important to suicide kill a medic than reset yourself after killing a heavy.

What if you gave Spy some sort of directional microphone but that can "shoot" noise, playing a sound wherever it hits?
You could shoot the decloak noise behind a Sniper to distract it.

>you'll never go back to the time when all the community servers in your favorites list were bustling with life

How to fix Spy:

Rechargable free Facestab

>making Spy a ventriloquist
I don't know. It sounds like a neat concept, but it would have to be complicated, with whole menus and whatnot.

>Spy gets 20% damage resistance when disguised.
Spies that get found out (specially with all these new tricks to fool enemies) deserve to get absolutely annihilated
>Revolvers have quicker cool down.
The default revolver is super efficient
>On backstab, Spy gets 1.5 second speed boost like Big Earner's effect
Fuck that, there was a reason why the big earner gave you with only 100 hp
The zapper is fine as it is.

In general you'd think that some form of suppressed pistol would fit right at home with Spy.
While it could be a bit broken, how about this?
A one shot suppressed handgun that deals little damage when hit but you can charge up by maintaining the crosshairs on the target, and at max charge I'd it kills the kill doesn't show on the killfeed and doesn't break disguise.

Maybe not more complicated than the current disguise kit
>pick the class you want to make the noise for
>then pick the weapon slot you want to make the noise for
>aim where you want to make the noise and left click
>ammo for this kit could be based on the weapon slot, so 4 shots for solider rocket and maybe 50 worth of heavy ammo, 1 shot for spy decloak
Although yes I agree, I don't think I would like it in the game.

What about a revolver that shoots fake bullets disguised as a projectile of the fake weapon the spy is holding, without breaking disguise.
The cost is that you can only shoot fake bullets while in disguise and damage from the revolver is 10% lesser than stock.

>pro killer

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A bit of resistance while disguised seems reasonable to me. It's the same thing he has while invisible and just, essentially, gives him 150 health. It would allow one to survive a few more spychecks.
Revolver cooldown is really long right now. After one shot, you can get in two inaccurate shots before you can take another accurate shot. I think a small buff would be appropriate.
The third addresses the constant issue of never being able to catch up to enemies. Even without this, the Big Earner really needs a different downside. I just love it so much.
And the last one is to make the sapper less of a 1-trick-pony. At least admit the sliding it would be cool, even if you wouldn't like the pickup-blocking.
I certainly think "atrocious" is a strong word for these.

I'd prefer a swapout for the disguise kit, which creates a dummy of a class with half the health of the character it copies, which walks around roughly in the direction you aim it

Hm. How about this?
Holding the left mouse button enters recording mode, with the next sound you make (whether voice line, gunshot, legs breaking) being stored on the microphone and used until you record another one.

kinda wished I had uncrated a couple more hats desu, only did 1

someone should make an SFM of this webm

Man, I love that idea. I said practically this exact thing a while ago in a thread.
>can't cloak or properly shoot while disguised and holding it
>M1 and M2 now make fake versions of the disguise's weapons, including fake swings of melee or fake airblasts, etc
>small draw and holster penalty as the big downside
>each usage uses a bullet up, and you can't reload while disguised
>up to 6 fake projectiles at a time can be out, and the timer between shots will be synced to the disguise's real timer
>your allies will see fake shots and projectiles as paper balls and confetti
Consider shooting a bunch of fake stickies down while disguised as your team's Demo, waiting for an enemy to walk up and try to break them, then backstabbing them.
It would be great.

shut the FUCK up sniper nigger

I remember on the Steam forums there was a popular suggestion of giving the spy a revolver he could shoot while disguised that would make the disguise shoot but not actually do damage. I would have loved that.

>The third addresses the constant issue of never being able to catch up to enemies. Even without this, the Big Earner really needs a different downside. I just love it so much.
The whole point of Big Earner is to make escape easier or easier chainstabs which is counterbalanced by less HP to survive if caught. Spy can already catch up to most enemies except other Spies, Medics or Scout. Of the three, Spies and Scouts are best handled by other classes, and Medics should be attacked while they are focused on healing an enemy.

I can't believe its 2019 and spy doesn't have a throwable sapper

3 words:

>butterknife random crit

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That's why they're spychecks, m2 and running away with the buff that invisibility gives you i think it's pretty reasonable
Revolver works perfectly fine for me. Maybe make another revolver with low fire rate but 100% accuracy?
Not being able to catch up with fast enemies is pretty reasonable, the last thing i want as a scout is getting easily one-hit killed
About the zappers, it's more of a lack of other options thanks to valve. I would show you videos of fan-made alternate zappers but the faggot that made them deleted all of them

honestly it's really annoying, but heavy's fat fucking back is so much easier to hit

>backstabs are now considered crits
>kritz on Spy now viable

TEAM fortress 2
Yeah, because that makes it balanced

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A decoy system could be fun, I see it.
While it's not something I'm not sure would work, some user mentioned giving the Spy binoculars. What about the ability to tag enemies so your team can see their outlines for a few seconds? Would strengthen his role as reconnaissance.

about to buy a 20$ steam card to deck out my boys

what's the best way to go about getting the most for my buck?

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Also, the big earner. Being punished because teammates get easily backstabbed is always pretty gay

>And the last one is to make the sapper less of a 1-trick-pony. At least admit the sliding it would be cool, even if you wouldn't like the pickup-blocking

It goes better with the Proof of Purchase

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>join match
>get streamrolled
>queue for another match
>get streamrolled
>queue for another match
>get streamrolled
>queue for another match
>match ends as soon as you join
>queue for another match
>get streamrolled
>queue for another match
>streamroll the other team
>queue for another match
get streamrolled
>queue for another match
>it's only you and one or two other people the whole match
>remember why I stopped playing the game and uninstall

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buy key for 2 bucks
turn it into like 50 ref
buy a ton of cheap unique hats

Cloak takes an age to start, though, and you might still want to fake being an enemy.
It takes .58 seconds to make another, twice that at 1.16 to reload, and 1.25 to be accurate again. I figure .87 would be a better number for that. You'd still need to be patient and not spam, but it's not giving up two non-accurate shots for 1 accurate shot.
I'm getting less fond of the third one, thanks to you all hating it. I still would prefer the Big Earner being all about speed instead of dipping into Kunai territory with the health nonsense.
And I still want a slidable sapper and never won't. I think the stock sapper should be slidable.

shut the fuck up, matchmaking is perfect
>t. jewtuber

>join match
>steamroll and laugh about it in chat
>join match
>have a relatively close game
>join match
>steamroll and laugh about it in chat
>join match
>get steamrolled
>join match
>>steamroll and laugh about it in chat
How's it feel being shit?

Are you aware that you don't need to leave the match after every game?

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He's probably rage quitting after getting shit stomped.

Maybe you could use it and select a few modes of vision. It would take a few seconds to switch between each. One would allow seeing stats from afar, one would allow seeing outlines from afar.
What else could it do? It would have to be worth giving up your sapper.

>join match
>top score regardless if I'm rolling or getting rolled
>the game thinks I'm skilled enough to carry entire teams it puts me in these shitty matches with nothing but rank 1 snipers and pyros

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How's it feel seeing nothing wrong with eating shit?
Yeah, how dare I reque for another match when the teams are horribly unbalanced the game does jack shit about it except allow more retards to join your losing team, that also happens to be hemorrhaging players at the same time.

Its TF2, why do you fags care about losing? Just have mindless fun

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Why do you fags assume it's winning or losing? It's not fun playing a game where the team's are so horribly balanced 9/10 times that either your whole team leaves, the other team starts spawn camping you, people don't leave but they just stand around jacking each other off, or a combination of the two. And boy is it fun dying 50 times in half an hour with spawn times that end up stretching out to almost half a minute each time. Yeah, it sure is fun watching other people playing the game.

>fag who leaves the match any time his team isn't winning
You deserve everything you get.

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>You arrive in Detroit

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>How's it feel seeing nothing wrong with eating shit?
I use this phrase often and it's actually pretty weird having it turned on me. Anyway, I justify it because there's no other choice. The devs aren't going to change it, community servers are dead or playing cancer game modes (2fort, orange, saxton hale, trading), and there is no other game that scratches the itch that TF2 gave me. If this matchmaking system is what we have, you can bet I'm going to make the best of it. Believe me, I've tried to quit and play other games but there is absolutely nothing out there that hits the same spot TF2 does and believe me, I've searched high and low.

based

>17 Demos
What

>30 players on one team

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It's a fading spray. From a distance it appears as a welcoming, delicious pie. However, when you get close it turns into a zoomed out version of this (can't find the exact one I used).

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>enemy spy starts fucking over your team
>tfw switching to spy, disguising as one of your own teamates, and fucking over the enemy spy.

Is there any other reason to disguise yourself as someone on your team?

At a certain point surely someone as brilliant as you would realize your whole purpose in a match where your on a poorly balanced team has become target practice for the other team. Because literally all you do is step out of spawn and get gang raped by the whole team at once, since everyone else on your team is busy picking their noses and smearing shit on your base's walls.
By the way I don't leave the match if my team is losing, but the teams are competently matched. I only leave if teams are unbalanced, even if my team is winning.

rarely works as intimidation

I disguise as friendly snipers and medics when I'm walking to the frontline so that
1. if someone happens to spot me they don't immediately think "spy!"
2. To intentionally draw the attention of snipers once I do reach the frontline. I'll useually peek for a quick second, just enough for an enemy to say "lol sweet medic by himself!" and then cloak away, into their backlines.
3. Capping the point with teammates looks a lot more intimidating when there are 2 heavies on it instead of 1

How about this for the sapper:
Can be slid a short distance with Shift+M1, can attach to buildings they reach. If a building is placed near one, it will attach. Can be broken while on the ground by Engies and Pyros with the Homewrecker. Up to four can be on the ground at once before the oldest start despawning. It now takes 1 second on placement and 4 seconds on sliding to use another sapper.
Here's the big one: any enemies who walk over a sapper will have any rechargeable meters drained, including Uber, cloak, rage, etc, sort-of like the Pomson.

>disguise as scout during rollout
>dead ringer up
>redisquise as enemy while cloaked
I do this to stop the enemy team from knowing we have a spy before we even start. Usually in the chaos of the rollout nobody notices the 125 hp class dying immediately

Dead Ringer strats.

>tfw no Woolie cosmetic for demoman
I guess woolie's made a pact to only appear in fightans, not shootans.

>spy mains
Nothing i love more than dominating weaboos who think they're hot shit

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Probably Saxton Hale or something.

>i went to tokyo for a while
so do 2.7 million international travelers each month
you think youre special or something faggot?

Would Spy be a better generalist if, instead of a Sapper, he had a tool that allowed him to see enemies through walls and plan accordingly?

>Cloak takes an age to start, though, and you might still want to fake being an enemy.
What you're suggesting is to make disguising behind enemy lines, where people are more alert, more risk-free.
If you get caught in a disguise, you shouldn't be given an effective health buff, especially if you're caught in a slow class.

absolutely atrocious was a strong word, i posted before reading and thought it was that one fag that wanted spy to be a eldritch abomination again. Still wouldn't want those 3 changes but i hope you get your shitty sliding zapper one day

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Unless you are getting sniped or crit rocketed, everyone on the planet is going to instantly know you're a dead ringer.

10 IQ phloggots are worse than weeb spies 2bh

>enemy spy main starts whining about you doing your job and spy checking as pyro

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>phlog
>on defence
>on goldrush
>only 25 killstreak

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god user that's so badass, I want to suck your cock

i don't care about losing if the teams are relatively balanced.
i just don't want to be forced to carry a pub in which my team is filled with people who have never touched a keyboard before.

>more risk-free.
Less risky is a better term. Essentially 25 more health as long as you don't attack isn't too much.
Thanks, man. I hope we can all have fun sliding sappers around.

Do you guys play on the official Casual matchmaking shit or do you still go on custom servers?

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I always thought he should have a radar thing, however it would only help people that have tunnel vision more than anything, competent spies would never die if they knew who was coming for them once they go for a backstab.

>custom servers
literally where, there's like three 32 player servers left

Don't buy from the steam market unless you want overpriced stuff
Market.tf and Bp.tf give you more stuff

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casual because all the good community servers are dead

>sniper counter play
user, this is fucking brilliant. I never thought of that.
I'm going to have to try this too.

I think I have something. How about a sapper replacement that has a mini drone you drive around and you can attach to a Sentry like a sapper? It has a limited duration, when it runs out it detonates but you can detonate at will with alt-fire.
Despite being small it makes noise while moving so as to be detectable.

Spy can't move while controlling it and takes more damage. Autodecloaks upon use.

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An effective 25 HP buff means a lot, especially in the case of pyro flames and explosives

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That's fine. It's just that on gamemodes like 5CP or KOTH, where Engis are not prevalent, it would make sense for Spy to be able to give up his Engi counters to be an even more proficient All around special elimination class.

Marketplace.tf I meant
Buy keys for 1.80 which gives you about 49 ref on Backpack.tf. Most craft hats are 2-4 ref and sought after are 20 somethings. Most hats cost cents on the Marketplace which I find that to be way easier.

10k
finally

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Why do you have to make thw stock sapper unnecessarily complex

I do like the idea of a drone. It's not really overpowered, though.

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Great thread.
I hope to see more quality discussion soon.
For fun.

ow

People don't tend to hide when the round is about to start. Just run towards the door with the soldier, you'll be good.

I should probably look for bone or skull themed paints for my guns but I fucking hate the whole factory-new/well-worn spiel

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only one good sniper headshot would've instantly shut you down. don't get cocky.

new thread

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>stab enemy
>hear the flesh hit sound playing
>hit didn't actually connect, didn't even damage the guy at all
>have to whip out my gun and finish him off with that at close range instead
what the fuck

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"Who are you?"
"Why are you here?"
"Are you aware you're being followed?"
"Who do you think you're fooling?"
"Did you take anything?"
"Who do you work for?"
"Where were you born?"
"How old are you?"
"What's your favorite color?"
"How many fingers am I holding up?"
"Did you burn down the department store?"
"Why did you burn that bush?"
"Why are you wearing gloves?"
"What is the purpose of the goggles?"
"What happened inside that house?"
"Why did you punch that little girl?"
"Are you addicted to getting arrested?"
"How much are they paying you?"
"How long have you been working for the dairy industry?"
"Where did you get the red sign?"
"Do you look down on sewer workers?"
"Why did you want to get in the sewers?"
"What were you doing in the cemetery?"
"Are you a grieving widow?"
"Where are your flowers?"
"What did you find in the mausoleum?"
"How did you move that trash can?"
"What is your relation to Cooper?"
"What was in Cooper's fridge?"
"Are you or have you ever been a member of the Rainbow Squirts?"
"What did the Rainbow Squirt tell you?"
"What's in the milk?"
"Why are you looking for the Milkman?"
"Do you serve the Milkman?"
"What is the Milkman's location?"
"What is the mission of the Milkman?"
"What's the Milkman like? Is he nice in person?"
"Who is the Milkman?"

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>aigis pins
holy fucking based

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I love that game. I love that level.

Seconding number 1