Why is this guy held in such high regard? Everyone and their mother, including on Yea Forums, praises as if he's some kind of musical genius and one of the best composers in the industry, yet literal nobodies compose music better than him. This is particularly obvious when it involves multiple games in the same series For example, let's take the Kotor score composed by him:
Now, which of these do you think is more fitting for a ship that is a safe haven where you get to have deep conversations with your companions? Even aside from context, the Kotor 2 track is simply a much better piece of music from a technical perspective than Soule's.
And the Kotor 1 track also double as Tatooine music. Kotor 1 doesn't even have unique music for its areas, every track is reused for different areas, no matter how poorly it fits.
That's just one track, but everything I said about it applies to the entirety of Kotor's score, and Soule's music in general. His compositions have zero personality and are devoid of any emotional hook. I guess it's fitting that he's the composer for bland Bethesda games.
That's another problem with his music: it all sounds the same. It doesn't matter if he's for a space opera or high fantasy, he just reuses the same generic 'orchestral but not really orchestral' soundscape for every game.
Lucas Gonzalez
>thread where op picks some of his less recognized works and babbles about it
>music for the most highly rated Star Wars game ever made >"less recognized work"
Only thing I heard about him recently was him scamming on kickstarter.
Elijah Kelly
I don't think he's bad per se, he's just not amazing. Compare Dawn of War 1s music with Dawn of war 2s the first was composed by Soule the second by a literal who. The second really captured the atmosphere of the 41st millennium, whilst Soule's soundtrack could have been used for basically anything. The only track he's composed that truly captured the setting has been Sons of Skyrim; I love Nerevar Rising but it didn't capture the essence of Vardenfell and the story of the Nerevarine, Reign of the Septims was basically He's a Pirate presented by Jeremy Soule.
Wyatt Roberts
Is this bair? The first link sounds like a wholesome hub theme, the basoon sounds really nice, but the second link sounds like some melodramatic prequels bullshit
Alexander Edwards
The "best star wars game" pales in comparison to a generic open world game made by a retarded developer like Bethesda.
Kayden Green
The Total Annihilation OST and the KOTOR OST really made this guy into the John Williams of video games
Honestly OP you're right, when I think of the Ebon Hawk I think of the KOTOR2 theme, to the point where I even remember KOTOR1 conversations with it.
Colton White
The Total Annihilation OST and the KOTOR OST really made this guy into the John Williams of video games
John Williams is actually talented.
Soule is more like the Hans Zimmer of video game music: talentless to the core, but the normies eat it up anyway.
Ian Cruz
only gets praised because people have fond memories of the games he worked on and those games are long you're like hammered with the ok music he composed for hundreds of hours its like proust's madeleine hearing that shit brings back the good memories of the game music is ok not great no need to get your panties all twisted like that op
Grayson Clark
>He also has a huge, unsightly ego What do you mean? Does he shit on people constantly?
Michael Garcia
Skyrim may be a generic bland open world game, but the soundtrack is kino and anyone who says otherwise is a faggot
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I'll happily defend Jeremy Soul as a good composer but he can't compose battle music for shit. He's great at atmosphere, ambience and comfyness but his combat music is complete trash.
Luis Allen
I actually don't like him that much overall. His Guild Wars stuff was good but all the other stuff I'm not too excited about. With one exception. His first vidya soundtrack ever. Maybe it's nostalgia because it's one of my favorite games of all time, but his Secret of Evermore stuff is simply magical to me. youtube.com/watch?v=MpdvSNIf4XU
Secunda reminds me of that one track in Oblivion too much
Adam Sanders
>video game music and discussion thereof doesn't belong on the video game board weird take
Juan Peterson
Thread ended here. Soule is a master of instrumentation matched today only by Gavin Bryars and experimentalists whose music is too abrasive to be atmospheric or any fun at all. He has written a lot of bad music, and it's easy to come up with examples of his failures, but when he's on his game the only vidya composer working today who is putting out music this good is Inon Zur.
Come on, this sounds like In the Nursery. It isn't bad but it's synth rock. Fair enough the composer can't be discounted for his programming skills, but can you imagine what this would sound like if it were played by a live ensemble? Compare this to Rob King and Paul Romero's music for EverQuest and Heroes of Might & Magic, which also sounds amateurish but is rich in atmosphere anyway and full of lively melodies.
Skyrim Atmospheres BTFOs OP eternally. Jeremy Chad Soule composes 45 minutes of ambient music gently interspersed with music, and manages to hit nature sounds from every major biome in Skyrim, gently moving from one majestic piece to another almost without notice, making for one of the most atmospheric soundscapes in vidya.
Of all the things people shit on Skyrim for, atmosphere is not one, and it isn't even down to one of the devs, but this bad boy.
I still can't get over the fact that this hack used generic orchestral pieces as background for Morrowind. The games setting is literally filled with wind chimes, lutes and bongos/drums but you won't hear neither in even a single track.
I can tell you are OP because your post is full of the same psycho errors we saw up there. It's obvious you have an axe to grind. Why not just be honest and say you don't like the guy? You're in good company - nobody likes him. But your observation about Morrowind is silly and crazy. Stop posting.
>But your observation about Morrowind is silly and crazy. lol can you refute it? Soul just makes generic string and flutes 24/7 for everything fantasy related. Vvvardenfells is unique enough that it's music should be easy to distinguish from the one in Cyrodril but guess what it isn't and putting Morrowind music in Oblivion is one of the more popular mods.
What music you like is purely subjective. But Soule objectively writes good music because he knows how instruments play well together and when what instrument should get louder or more silent. If Morrowind's, Oblivion's, or Skyrim's music didn't send chills down your spine the first time hearing it, you objectively have shit taste in good composition.
William Kelly
>but can you imagine what this would sound like if it were played by a live ensemble?
So what, music can only be good if it's played by a live orchestra? Almost none of Soule's music uses live instruments either (he uses synthesizers), so how does this argument even make sense?
the KOTOR 2 composer seemed to actually enjoy making a dark version of John William's Star Wars score
Liam Harris
Morrowind and Oblivions soundtracks were fantastic, and obviously viewed through nostalgia goggles now that elevate them to beyond amazing.
Skyrim was good too desu, he just makes good music that's well made that fit the games he's in.
Eli Miller
>lol can you refute it? Soul just makes generic string and flutes 24/7 for everything fantasy related. Even his music for non-fantasy games is guilty of that. Truly the sign of a great composer.
Alexander Roberts
Because he makes music that is appreciated and enjoyed by many people
>Vvvardenfells is unique enough that it's music should be easy to distinguish from the one in Cyrodril So wouldn’t Oblivion’s soundtrack be the one you should be trashing since Morrowind came first?
Jaxson Turner
DoW has some of the best music, ever. Just for this, he can do and say whatever he wants. And that is just one soundtrack.
they're video game soundtracks. lots of video game soundtracks are going to sound similar because they're meant to evoke similar emotions and they're meant to play during A or B point in the game. there's only so much you can do with a video game soundtrack, you have no idea what you're talking about and are unqualified to make a sound judgement on this matter. his music is transcendent and elevates whatever game it's in. Guild Wars was pretty great. it just doesn't matter how "unique" it sounds, it's the fact that when he does the tracks for a game you know it's going to sound good throughout barring any developer errors insofar as when they choose to use his songs in the game. get fukt dude u have no case
Robert Brown
>Dungeon Siege Oh man, now that was a great game!
Hunter Miller
Total Annihilation sold the man to me, and still does.
Benjamin Jackson
this is the type of criticism the thread should have led with. this actually makes sense, rather than claiming broadly that soule makes generic or bland music, which is patently false
Not really, All of oblivion soundtrack itself was presented as "LOTR RPG EPIC adventure", which fit with the idea of Cyrodiil post Dragon Break retcon being that Also Reign of the Septims has 2 versions, the Menu + Dagon showdown music, and the Intro one which is longer and fits with the other musics ingame as one single theme.
>still baiting to get (you) you are the bonafide example of everything wrong with Yea Forums
Benjamin Campbell
He uses the same digital instruments library and probably programs he always did, focuses on same melodies and types of woodwind, brass and drums. Using all of them as well because they fit in together. Also likely editing and and making the final cut either himself or the same guy he uses meaning it will have the similar technical arrangement coming to your ears. One game's soundtrack sounds like another's. Even if it's a ww2 plane game lol.
Well he works for a paycheck and he doesn't even have to do the work, he is probably rich. Composers struggled most in their lives with inspiration and self-doubt throughout history. They are very self aware and critical of what they have made. Soule knows about the obvious complaint. He is able to produce every time when developers need him though.
Blame the games too. Just takes a slightly different game atmosphere like in Icewind Dale OR deeper message in the game and already the music sounds slightly to a lot different youtube.com/watch?v=G8F3ci2pmqg
Journalist media and retards will always have a need for a face, it's always been like that. Just like that Baba Yetu thing. I would agree he is overrated as he is singled out because of his work on seminal western games but his music in general is excellent and appropriate.
Christian Reed
Funny that you use Ebon Hawk as an example since Jeremy’s Ebon Hawk for Kotor 1 sounds waaaay more unique and original than 2’s extremely generic strings although it still sounds good
Camden Davis
His music is okay. He phones it in sometimes, not unusual. But he is a piece of shit because he did a kickstarter, raised $150,000, never delivered and doesn't feel the least bit of remorse about having just pocketed his fans' money like that. There's always been rumors he's a massive asshole. It seems they are true.
Colton Thomas
Never paid attention to this before, but looks like it's true
Isaiah Scott
every song you posted sucks
Oliver Thompson
it's always like that, are you new to Yea Forums don't go to those 'your battle theme' etc. threads
