THAT IS BULLSHIT LAZY
THAT IS BULLSHIT LAZY
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STILL MY HEART IS BLAZING
IF THE WORLD KILLED ME
I DONT NEED A NEW ONE OVER YOUUU
SOON YOU WILL KNOOOOW
WE ALREADY KNOW THE SMELL
OF
THE
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
I love the high framerate specials. I hope it's not just for the teaser
>Imagine being Naoki Hashimoto and only ever singing good Guilty Gear songs.
Man he must live a good life.
This game is going to be a lifestealer. The reveal had me beyond excited. Cant wait to hear the full track.
BACK TO BACK
DEATH COMES ARRIVING ON A MIDNIGHT TRAIN
What are the best case simplifications/changes that could be made?
I'm positive they'll add a button command for dashing to make airdashing easier.
Removing Jump Install is something I'd be completely content with, I don't mind them removing Guts and different character weights either. I see some people saying they should remove RISC, which I do not want, and a lot of people bring up making it so there's only one kind of RC, but I think it's still important to have at least 2 if they're going to have YRC so that one can cost less than the other.
>make a lot of hand positioned key frames
>make the engine fill in between frames
I think that's what they are doing and it's working nicely
Aside from objectively good removals like Danger Time, I'd be fine without Purple Roman Cancels.
It does. It really looks like high budget anime movie money shot
HOLDING TO TECH
are you retarded
do you really think they're fucking tweening the animations
One of the key parts of the new Team Red Artstyle is that there is no tweening.
They are fucking not hand picking all those frames. There are a lot more key frames this time but that would also allow for filling in between frames better.
Of course they are not filling everything, there are still clear jumps in animation in some places.
I just want to point out an example. Sol's string and the 3rd hit. The slow mo happens and the last hit still moves forward frame by frame. They don't look like hand picked frames. Rather, there are 2 key frames and the engine fills those frames in between for the slowmo to happen.
>Call it a new GG instead of Xrd (subtitle).
>Same base models in new outfits.
That really is bullshit lazy.
My heart is also blazing
Stylish mode makes the game into dragon ball fighterZ
First of all adding new outfits and new animations is where 99% of the work is, new base models wouldn't affect workload much
Secondly, they are clearly new models too.
They look more like touched up models, but redoing the outfits to this extent is basically "new models" for 50% of the assets. If nothing else they built them on top of the old models with new or cleaned up assets (I swear Sol's arm is taken right from is Xrd model), which is understandable.
I still can't tell if Ky got a cape that looks like a jacket or if he refuses to wear his jacket correctly.
Also these designs are way better holy shit.
Its 3D. Tweening is the default way to animate 3D. Removing frames from between is giving the illusion its not. You don't fucking model the 3d model in every single individual frame when using 3DSMAX or Blender. You make one model and then move it around with motion tween.
Ky looks so fucking good, I can't wait to play him when the game releases.
Why does his glove have fingernails tho?
Same reason Sol's sword has a fucking belt on it. They're retarded.
But user, belts make everything look better
There's only so many belts a man can honestly wear, Nomura-san.
SKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
SHOOOOOOOOOOULD BE
HIGH
Why do Jack-O's gloves have fingernails on them?
I haven't played Xrd but it doesn't look so off there
I really hope this isn't a prequel. I want this to be a sequel to Xrd so that we can see MILF versions of girls like Millia, Elphelt and Ramlethal.
If this was a prequel, that means that characters like Millia would probably be lolis.
How do that guy crack out winner tune after tune? I would go to a concert with those soundtracks.
>Getting BTFO by a stylish player
Get fucked shitter.
>millia would probably be loli
thats a good thing
>I really hope this isn't a prequel.
Look at Sol's sword for two seconds.
BRING BACK
BRING BACK
FOR ALL I NEED IS PROOF I LIVED
TAKE ME
TAKE ME
TO THE END OF THE WORLD
As long as Jam is back in, I'll be happy. Even if she isn't, at least I'll always have my backup, Slayer.
Blame Daisuke for that. He apparently has a weird obsession with it, along with the writing on various bits of characters clothing.
Don't ask questions about GG. The answer is always "because it's cool"
it is a sequel
1. why would Daisuke do a prequel when he stated that he wants to end the story
2. sol's weapon is now called outrage MK II. Outrage was split into various different weapons a long time ago. Thunderseal and Fireseal being part of those. Junkyard Dog MK III was already made of Flashing Tooth and Fireseal. He was obviously trying to rebuild Outrage. If it was a prequel he would be using fireseal or a concrete pillar.
3. Ky would either use Thunderseal/Aquila/Magnolia Eclair I or II. He doesn't use any of those.
4. Ky's short hair is not an argument for a prequel. People seem to forget that you can do mundane things like cutting hair in a world where magic is real. He most probably has to cut it every few days now like Sin and Sol, since he got infected by Gear DNA.
Also he is more muscular. Again a byproduct of gear DNA. He did not have this body before or in xrd.
So is this a separate continuity in an alternate universe?
YOU WANNA BE CRAZY
Neither, it's almost certainly a sequel, there's almost nothing to suggest otherwise.
it's definitely "I don't need a new world order"
No, Ky just got a haircut. Dizzy probably told him no more tail pegging until he cleans up his hair.
>dizzy is the dom in bed
Why is this so funny but probably also true
aren't they friends? why do they battle each other all the time?
Same reason Ken and Ryu fight each other all the time despite being friends.
You just don't understand.
>too late to get into Xrd
>playing it anyway and having a great time just hitting buttons in training mode
>want to main Answer but he definitely won't get in the next game so should probably pick a mainstay like Sol
GG is amazing. I should've taken the Mike Ross pill earlier.
Women will never understand
Sol can only tolerate Ky for so long.
Wait wasn't Ky absent in the last game? Weren't there like 2 Ky clones instead? What's happening I'm confused
If you want to play Answer then just play him. He's loads of fun, and him not being in the next game is just more reason to take advantage of the opportunity you have to play him now while people are playing Xrd.
No and no. There was one Ky and he wasn't absent from Xrd.
Somehow I remember him being replaced by his son in Xrd and I did play that game. WTF I think I'm finally losing it bros
His son is in Xrd, but he didn't replace him.
Does anyone have that screencap of Guilty Gear lore and story?
YOU WANNA GO FREAK OUT
Is it worth playing vanilla Xrd now in prep? I didn't get Rev cause I heard it was always behind.
If you're going to get something you should get Rev 2.
Because Necro would go ballistic as soon as Ky tries to be the dom.
Guilty Gear looks cool as fuck but I hate most of the mechanics I troduced in the last game. I hope they get rid of danger time, blitz shield and slow down on rc.
However I am sure they will fuck it up somehow
and for that you need to get rev
well if you grind training mode there is no problem. Rev2 got some new mechanics like sideways dust. But the game itself is pretty much the same except for nerfs.
If you want to play though you need rev2. No way around it.
Rev 2 is sold standalone as well though.
Ky's a massive faglord so Sol beats him up for it
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESIAAAAAAAA
HEEEEERE I AM
3
>along with the writing on various bits of characters clothing.
That's called "fashion", which anybody who isn't a gremlin would understand.
based godslayer
Why doesn’t Blazblue get made with this engine.
Because BB is done for now.
because the havent recicle enough the sprites
That'll probably happen when they are ready to go back to Blazblue. I feel like with Ragna's story over, if they continue it'll make sense to upgrade to this style
Timing, probably. GGXrd Sign came out when BB was well underway into it's own series. You technically could use this art for BB, but you'd essentially be spending more time, effort, and money by making the same game you already have but with different visuals. It was probably the easiest and most cost-effective route to do BBTag instead. If they ever make a new BB series though, they'll probably do it then.
Honestly I’m fine with that because it means they don’t have to cut anyone from Rev 2. And it still looks miles better than Xrd, I’m fucking blown away by how goddamn pretty it is
I think it's 'if the world can't help me'
why the fuck is ky so hot now
im not homo, but i would love to give hin a blowjob
no homo
How is Ishiwatari so good at everything?
just unzip him right then and there... I wonder how it would smell haha
no homo
I don't think it is the same base models, and if it is they've been touched up. Ky's eyes are noticeably different from his eyes in Xrd, for example.
God this
Also don't make YRC fuck my inputs
Jap engrish rock music is so fucking terrible. Actually jap rock is just complete garbage even when they dont attempt to speak english
>now
(you)
THIS BULLSHIT IS LAZY
Post Leo memes
HE'S IN
Why does it look worse than the previous entries?
It doesn't.
because you're blind
I think it's because the higher frame rate bits completely destroy the hand drawn illusion, hopefully they won't be part of gameplay
when is he not
>impregnated a minor
HE CAN’T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
Or Ky came to horrible realization that he was prettier than his wife.
Mechanics that need to go:
>DANGER TIME
>NEGATIVE PENALTY
>Yellow Roman Cancel
>Purple Roman Cancel
>Ukemi
>Jump install
>Blitz shield reflect
>Wake-up timing for face up and face down knockdown
>R.I.S.K. meter
>GUTS rating different for each character
Everything else could stay the same and we would have a better game as a result.
Xrd was good DESPITE those needless mechanics that would punish defensive play.
Why would you get PUNISHED with increased R.I.S.K. gauge as well as your opponent getting tons of tension meter when you manage to block a difficult high-low mix-up?
Why do you get DOUBLE punished for playing footsies (you lose gauge while your opponent builts it when he is walking forward while you walk back)
It does look worse.
Stop being fanboys and really look at it.
Look at Ky's hand. Look at the stages. Look at the impact dust. It's all been downgraded.
>remove everything that makes GG GG
Eat a dick. Go back to Footsies.
I agree with everything but getting rid of YRC
>removing danger time
pussies
The stages are some of what has stood out as looking particularly better compared to Xrd, Xrd's a good looking game, but some of the environments are downright ugly, just look at some of the earlier IKs where the characters are in a featureless low res wasteland. I don't even know what you're getting at with Ky's hand and the impact dust, they both look completely fine. The backgrounds here look great in comparison to some of the stages in Xrd.
THE SMELLLLL
*snifffffff*
OF THE GAME!
it better scream READY ORR when i transform or no buy
Do you think we'll get simultaneous PC release this time? Fighting game devs have been really good for that recently. Pretty sure DBFZ came out at the same time.
RADIOOOOOOOO
GRASP THE TRUTH!
TWO THREE FOUR FIVE GET BACK THE DICE
BBTAG as well I think, so I have high hopes for a simultaneous PC release.
GBFV isn't getting a PC release at the same time but that probably has more to do with Cygames than arcsys.
This art looks obviously 3D. I miss the clean simplicity of -SIGN-
A king can do as he pleases.
That's a good thing, I don't want the game to look like a cheap anime.
>remove RISC
that'd be retarded, one of my favorite things about the game. Talk about the perfect system for a guardbreak-like mechanic
Sol is mad that Ky fucked and impregnated his daughter only once
Why is Ky electric when all his clones are ice?
I agree, that's why I don't want it gone.
Because electric powers are cooler than ice powers.
clones?
I remember a thread the other where some fraud """""oldfag""""" pretended GG 1 was a masterful display of fighting games
>he doesn't understand what clones mean in fighting games
FUUUUUUUCK YOU DAISUKE GIVE ME THE FULL SONG ALREADY.
>Ram loses her swords
>Gets a food gimmick instead
>After eating enough she powers up and Birthday Train starts playing
Am I alone in thinking the designs in Xrd were kind of lame compared to other earlier games? There definitely are exceptions, but overall I didn't care them.
So far I like the new designs though.
shieeeeet what do you think actually happens?
Unfortunately the live concerts only seem to ever take place in Japan.
>i don't need a new world order you
i don't think so.
For a moment I thought OP was criticizing the video quality.
Agreed my fellow #R veteran, I too have 2 hours in playtime
I like a lot of the new designs in Xrd, I just didn't like that a lot of characters just had their old designs again, it felt like the characters clashed with one another a bit because of that. I understand re-using old designs in Xrd's case because they wanted to emphasize how they were recreating the old sprites in this new style, but I hope most characters have a new design in this so they all feel like they have a consolidated aesthetic. They're off to a good start with these designs anyway.
Because it doesn't need to be and we'd be better off with a new Blazblue in the same style as CF.
Why are people so in love with cutting rosters down to 12 characters?
Wonder if they’ll have more kids for the new game
>2 hours
I probably spent more time then that agaisnt I-no alone.
>removing negative penalty
Come on man GG has always been a game with almost no quiet moments.
Well, it's not like if you ever had a match where you actually get to see someone take a negative penalty
I'd be fine with button command airdash. It was something I never knew I wanted until Crosstag had it. I generally don't even have problem with execution but IAD can be tough, hell if I don't play for too long before sessions I need to jump into training and just spam out IADs for bit. As for what I think can reasonably go without hurting the integrity of the game
>Danger Time obviously
>R.I.S.C or atleast rework it a bit
>Do something to rework RC flashes eating an opponents inputs.
>Blitz can probably just go completely and be replaced with some\thing better. The Risk/Reward of blitz was poorly balanced.
he's confused because Ky's only clone in GG is Robo-ky. Are you talking about Jin from BB? I don't think clones work across series.
I've not played Guilty Gear since the og but man, this trailer has got me hyped to jump back into the series.
New world under you
it's not part of the same sentence dummie
>I don't need a new world order,
>you! soon you will know!
To be fair, with how improved everything looks I don't even care.
If it means that we'll have less characters removed, I'm ok with it.
Even the fucking new gloves Ky is wearing has them, I don't get it.
What was that?
That was Laura, the thread marshal.
The only thing I would really like to see removed or heavily changed is YRC.
They were pretty hit or miss, as you would expect. Some characters look absolutely stunning in Xrd and some clearly didn't survive the transition well. Aspect Raido Sol belonging to the latter group for example.
no. They went too safe for Xrd designs. But now we are back on track
>License plate hat
>flesh cape with teeth
>Midget in a mech that looks like a burly old man
>Dude on literal bed frame
I don't need a (You), another (You)!
Wide Sol > thin sol
Thanks god a new GG is coming, I'm fucking tired of the tag anime fightan. I only want to use a single fucking character, no 3.
why don't you play Xrd retard
Dunno, should I? /ggg/ is pretty dead, even on PC
we just finished playing a full lobby EU PC
There are lobbies all the time.
we just finished playing a full lobby EU PC
and there's like 3 beginners
Not even just GG beginners, but fighting game beginners.
I always thought it was funny how a bunch of xrd characters have fingerless gloves
guess I'll start playing again, I played some ramlethal and was proud that I took a round from a really good guy on /ggg/. But I did it using the cheap combo.
I think I want to relearn the game with another character. Should I go for Millia or Ky?
You guys think that with this new engine they can finally support having actual new costumes?
The lack of alternate costumes never had anything to do with the engine.
>cheap combo
>Implying
pick whoever the fuck you want, dont fucking ask people who you should play without even specifying anything retard
if you wanna lock people down and play single player play millia, if you want neutral play ky
Anyone here who went to Evo? Was the place actually going crazy for this?
Not him but I've always heard that was the case. Something to do with the lighting being baked into the models or something like that
you can hear the cheering here youtube.com
play sol
Yes it did.
Have you actually watched the gdc presentation?
>I played some ramlethal and was proud that I took a round from a really good guy on /ggg/. But I did it using the cheap combo.
>cheap combo
If you believe this you shouldn't play fighting games, you're only going to start bitching about "cheap" when you get 50-50'd to death
Yes, but I don't see why them handling the lighting differently now just because they're on a different engine. That was a decision that came about because the look they were going for with the game, not because the engine specifically necessitated it.
Its not the engine thats the problem dumbass its UE3. The problem is the amount of time needed to create the "costumes" is pretty much the same as making one whole character. DBFZ has costumes on some characters because Bamco have a lot more staff and money than ArcSys
Junya "kill everything 3d" is not working on this I think, they get to cheat more
dunno the guy was pretty salty about me taking that round I think, since I outed my self as a newbie in fightans and I just did the combo where you do the big vertical slash up > down > cancel > up > down. He told me not to rely on that combo and shit.
guess I'll go with Ky.
sounds like that south park parody
Who was it? There really isn't really any saltlords in /ggg/ you are probably misunderstanding what he meant
It's fine to relay on one combo if it's optimal, don't listen to scrubs lol
When Mori stops being a lazy fatass and finally cancels the FGO clone he is working on at the moment
I think I want to get into GG, so I might get this on PC. I thought of buying Xrd on sale the other day, but at this point the community must be pitifully small, and there's no cross-play.
If he can't do shit about it then that's his problem.
>Same base models in new outfits.
We should all really HOPE they are. Same base models means no Xrd cuts.
>game is dead in EU
Glad USbros at least can play GG/BB/UNIB
If its what I think it is it isn't optimal at all, Ramlethal is all about carrying to the corner and going mental. She can carry to the corner off a ton of stuff. I really think he's just misunderstanding what he was told
Probably not, at least until all the current matters are settled. The current host of the universal will has died, but that doesn't mean it's gone, it's true form exists in the Backyard and as long as it continues to believe that humans aren't the 'real humanity' and are just a poor imitation, it will continue to try to attack them. Having more kids just complicates matters, not to mention that Ky never actually had to raise Sin, neither did Dizzy. They kind of have to figure out how to be parents to him first.
>Game is dead in EU
There was a full lobby, a nearly fully lobby and 2-3 with 2-3 people in an hour ago when I played for a bit. (Only including the EU lobbies there was a ton of other ones) If you don't see lobbies you need to sort out your port forwarding
>Literally your entire list, especially negative penalty
You’re SO FUCKING GAY
Why, Sol? Why did you let him become a fucking dumb rock? You're a fucking scientist, your daughter is also smart as fuck because she did nothing but read for the first three years of her life. Was it really so hard to hand the kid a book during your down time?
>Remove all the things that make Guilty Gear Guilty Gear and have been in the game for years
Why do you even play GG if you hate it at such a fundamental level? Its calld RISC btw faggot
It is not the same base models. They are doing it again from the ground up.
PS4 or PC?
Xrd isn't dead in EU, what are you talking about lmao
Sin is literally 3 years old
>we might get millia without a hat again
bros...
PC
Yeah, it doesn't really sound optimal but it was still a scrub quote
play on /ggg/
don't play on discord they're all pieces of shit and will make fun of you for being bad
Whats the best Daisuke Ishiwatari theme?
Sol is not a good parent, I think he just taught him combat and survival stuff
I still think you got them wrong
What character did they play? If you haven't played since them your replays should download when you install the game from SteamCloud so you can see who it was
Why play with a handful of Yea Forums players from all over the world when EU has an alive EU scene with competitive players way stronger?
The rest of the games after GG??
How can daisuke get people to play new GG but not quit after a week?
Despite the awesome graphics GG hasn't attracted new players in literally decades. Just look at the pros, they're all old dudes.
Nah, sin is rambunctious enough to fight Sol over learning his multiplication tables.
/ggg/ has EU players too, we had a nearly full lobby earlier, some of them are new too for any one who just jumped on the bandwagon because of EVO
>when EU has an alive EU scene with competitive players way stronger?
Because you're fucking trash at the game you retarded faggot, they won't wanna play with you anyway. Go on /ggg/ and fight the europeans there until you're the best player there and then you can move on to fucking discord or whatever, retard gamer
I don't even like fighting games, but I'm going to get this game simply because the art and animation look so good. One of my guilty pleasures with Xrd is to capture gameplay footage and watch the animation frame by frame.
Then I will bask in the realisation of how much of a shit 3D artist I am and how far away I am to become world class in the industry.
Obviously
>Oh yeah, Sol wouldn't give my kid Tea, because of course he wouldn't like it
Sol let him drink Sugar water as a treat
>Sugar water? That's slang for alcohol, I'm going to fucking murder Sol
LET IT OUUUUUUUUUUT
Afraid to ask, but
What angle is this? Is he being sat on?
I'm not
So how will Sol's Gear form have changed again for this game?
Just ask strong players to play lmao, what is this victim complex you are living. Also just jumping in to help out the guy calling EU dead, I'm already experienced enough to play in that EU discord you claim to be so elitist.
I don't know if i wanna buy this, I bought the last GG then I got ripped off because they released an upgraded version like right after, and you can't even play with people who have the upgraded ver. You guys think they'll do this again?
>I'm already experienced enough to play in that EU discord you claim to be so elitist.
The public one is dead, my guy. Nobody fucking uses it. The players there are no fucking better than /ggg/.
There is an elite private discord that is invitational only.
>play against fellow channers on /ggg/ who are willing to help and give advice
>play against light blues and yellows on discord who will either be too retarded to provide a good match or actually decent, but too up their asshole to want to help you or play at all
woah....what a hard decision to make!
>Mechanics that need to go:
>>NEGATIVE PENALTY
How to spot a shitter
He’ll probably realize he doesn’t wanna do this anymore
Not him but the GG channel in the eu Discord is full of dickheads. There is some decent people there but I feel sorry for the admins having to deal with grown mean acting like fucking children. Last I checked that channel is dead and they are all using the main GG Discord which used to sort of be unofficially American only
>There is an elite private discord that is invitational only
This doesn't surprise me. I think my friend told me they were invited to some special Discord by one of the people within the circle jerk years ago so that's quite believable
I hope the roster doesn't start out as small as XRD. I want Cloudberry's torpedo tits in my face from day one.
Reducing the system mechanics, while not sacrificing the depth is 1 way. Making an accessible, yet robust game is key.
>Get people not to quit after a week
He doesn’t need to
Aight you guys win, I'll go back to GG.
damn I forgot how bad of a character crisis I have.
If that's what it took why is the most popular fighting games Tekken and Jive? And not Fantasy Strike?
That honestly doesn't look like a very comfy position to idle in
Just play Samsho or Street Fighter, you fag.
Imagine it's a very hot day and she's got a large fan aimed at her butt.
NO NO NO NO BRING BACK KY’S HAIR NOOOOOOW
imagine the smell
Should I get Rev 2 on PS4 if I've never played a GG game before?
It was on sale for 12$ recently and I think it might still be.
It will probably have a healthy start. Xrd didn't have that big a team, so it was an uphill battle in many different ways. Now they have bigger budget, better understanding of how to make characters in this style and bigger team. Also a base to work off of, I doubt they will have to completely make all models from scratch again.
>You don't fucking model the 3d model in every single individual frame when using 3DSMAX or Blender. You make one model and then move it around with motion tween.
You haven't watched the GDC talk?
You can't
The fan is blowing the smell away
No, what kind of fag buys a good game
there's something magical about confident engrish singing
I'm not gay and I don't want to worry Dizzy but Ky is looking really good in GG 2020.
They are planning on doing a different thing. Instead of his hair falling down, it will grow super fast and his eye will glow red.
I Just want an Air Dash shortcut
ITS the only Thing Holding me Back from actually playing guilty gear
If you want to get into GG, then it's your best bet. It's the most accessible, and there should be some lobbies that are active, especially after the announcement.
>shit at fighting games
>wanna skip all the way to GG anyway
What's the singleplayer like?
Listen to this: youtu.be
Best vocal track from GG
At least you Ky fags are safe, think about ramchads like me that are afraid that they will take away our honest character.
So are they finally going to put Anji back in?
Have you ever had a character you loved playing so much? One that you love the feeling of more than any other fighting game character? Have you ever had it teased that he might come back? Only to see a new sequel? I'm so afraid birthday cake bros.
How interested are you in Guilty Gear?
Just self insert as Dizzy, user.
>he can't 956
It's a movie, literally, and there's an arcade mode
The game has a pretty good tutorial just learn to play nigga
>That is bullshit lazy, still my heart is blazing
The perfect way to describe fighting games; you are literally just sitting there but still, in your mind and in your heart, are having an exhilarating clash
Depends on which game. XX story mode can range from really fun to frustrating based on character.
>Kill this Robo Ky in 10 seconds for ending A, if not, you get ending B. Oh and he's also immune to normal attacks and can only be killed by specials or instant kills.
What's your favorite GG song?
Ky is fucking your wife
I’m sorry, wait. Fucking HIS wife.
I still can't get over the new idle stance for Sol.
Just feels weird not to have Sol in his classic stance.
Still doing god's work.
Vortex Infinitum
he wide
You might be thinking of overture
He seems more normie than the other characters in Xrd. What did you like about him?
Post yfw Ram is not axed.
>imagine
I don't really care, waifufags don't actually play the game so I never see her on my screen anyway
God, the OutRage mk2 is fucking huge. This actually looks like his best sword yet, gives massive shout outs to both his Order Sword and Fireseal in it's design.
You don't even have to play with them, I've been playing public lobbies in EU since Rev 2 came out.
Attacking while blocking with guard points instead of super armor or counter stancing. All purpose projectile and very long fujin coverage with a move that covers a lot of ground. Really fun character with not many like them.
Sol only beats Ky when Ky isn't serious. As proven in rev2.
Tapping two times a diagonal isn't too hard user
I play with /ggg/ because they're nice and spoon feed me advice without me having to ask (i'm shy)
Outrage isn't complete yet, right?
Kinda sad we didn't get to see every seal, but the eventual reveal of Outrage is gonna be great.
I would play with them, but they don't have PS4 lobbies there, so I just post there on occasion instead.
how can you have a character crisis when you've got a dandy vampire that makes haiku when the opponent get destroyed?
Good 2d animation is actually harder.
That's why cheap anime go for 3d.
I have the game on PS4, but I'm an awful faggot whose been stuck in blue square for 1 year with no improvements so you're better off not playing me
Bros...please tell me she isn't getting axed.
I'm not too worried. They had to spend a lot of time figuring out the new look and everything with XRD.
Well it looks pretty neat.
I've known about the series for a long time but never tried it out.
I always see people talk about it being fairly complex and I don't play fighters much outside of a little Tekken or some MK over the years so I thought it was a little daunting.
But for 12$ I figure it's worth a shot.
Yes, man, Jesus. Get good now, so you can instantly pick up the next one
Forget online for a while. Do the extensive mission mode where it shows you every fucking fighting game thing ever. Do the trial mode and learn the combos, even if it takes a few days. This is he real single player content of GG, and it’s pretty good. Play with people sometimes, but finish the missions and the combo trials. You’ll be glad you did game will seem so much simpler for it
Fuck that teaser looked so damn good. I'm still kinda disappointed that the fake roomers of a digimon game though.
I'm so glad the junkyard dog actually has an edge now
Fucking this
She’s getting the axe
Her big titted sister will stay
This teaser is a goldmine.
hope not
He isn't saying "bullshit crazy?"
KEEP ON FIGHTING GUYS
WE HAVE THEM ON THE ROPES
I hope she does, I fucking hate fighting against her she's the lowest IQ piece of shit in the game and wins by getting in 1 hit
I hope not. I just want GG characters, whether they're returning or brand new. Not everything needs to guest characters.
>he missions and the combo trials
She'll get axed, but if it makes you feel better i'd be more happy to hear about leo getting axed than her
actually speaking I liked Slayer a lot, but I just couldn't get consistent with some of the combos becuase I was retarded, maybe now that Im two couple of years older I will understand how to play him.
Let me research the bnb.
Their relationship is complicated. Sol respects Ky's battle prowess, but hates his ethics, which he feels clouds his ability to make proper decisions. Ky sees Sol's lack of general respect as contemptible and that he should try to be a better person. They are coming to a better understanding of each other, but they still have trouble moving past their old grudge. Matters were probably made worse with Ky realizing that he's now related to Sol and their bickering has become the typical in-law fighting joke.
It always did, but Sol kept it sheathed. After story A shows it breaking from Ky's attack and it's actually got a huge blade. Sol probably just never uses it because he's too scared to go completely all out.
Why does it look worse than Revelator and Rev 2? Is it because the lines are darker or thicker?
He's always looked hot. It was just always limited to the 2D artwork.
Don't worry about that too much, I was just moving between blue and dark green for two years, I'm light green now but still feel like I'm more deserving of being dark green. You'll always be making some improvements though, and even though I feel like I should be dark green, when I look at old replays of when I started and was dark green I am way worse than I am now, so even I've improved and you will too if you stick with it. If you're in EU I will play with you if you want though, I don't care if you're good or not.
Remove Jump Install
Simplify character weight/hurtboxes during combos so that you don't have to memorize so many different routes per character but without removing character specific combos and optimizations.
Change air recovery so that you don't have to mash, either by letting you escape just by holding or something different.
Make slowdowns during cancels something that requires more resources or something so that you don't have slow motion shit every ten seconds.
Remove danger time obviously.
A lot of people complain about blitz shield and I remember taking a bit longer into grasping that mechanic so polishing it or changing it doesn't sound bad.
Make wake up work by 3~ classes instead of giving each character it's own unique wake up timing. Don't remove face up and face down but be more clear about which moves causes which type of knockdown.
Some people want guts removed but I don't see the point, at the end of the day it's just more hp for some characters. Maybe reduce it a bit so that you don't have to go for a million air jabs in the final parts of a round.
>more happy to hear about leo getting axed than her
I fucking wish. Every shitter I came across played that fuck. He's too popular.
who cares, i'll still be stuck playing the same 5 guys in europe. EC players refuse to play EU even in Melty Blood, only casual beginners do it
post unsheated junkyard dog
Why the fuck don't they just use GGPO
Just imagine it. Ky goes into his critical state, but instead of last games hair coming lose, his eye glows and his hair grows super fast and Holy Orders 4 plays.
BlazBlue is better. Unironically.
>>DANGER TIME
Yes
>>NEGATIVE PENALTY
No
>>Yellow Roman Cancel
Rework at best
>>Purple Roman Cancel
Rework at best
>>Ukemi
No
>>Jump install
Very yes
>>Blitz shield reflect
Rework
>>Wake-up timing for face up and face down knockdown
Yes
>>R.I.S.K. meter
Change it to grey health like in SFV
>>GUTS rating different for each character
No
She won't be, I hope she gets reworked a bit though because I hate how she plays. It's a shame I'll have to continue to tolerate her waifufags too, but there's no changing that I suppose.
More detail = less imagination filling in the gaps.
That and they're doing way more frames now which looks jarring at firrst, but is great in motion.
but that interview is from last year for bbtag
asw will never use rollback in any form, japs are too stupid to understand the benefits of rollback even within their region
Keep it on /vg/ bud.
>their bickering has become the typical in-law fighting joke.
Truly, the most significant and well-earned development this story has ever experienced.
Effects of rollback are visible
Effects of delay are only felt, even if it's way more severe.
Now take this to the arcade roots. You don't want a potential player seeing rollback happen while someone's playing. They'll think it's a glitch.
I hope if they do add a button short cut for dashes it's closer to BBTAG than DBFZ because for some weird reason I could never fire it off in FZ at all.
The inside looks like this.
>tfw started out as a bedman player
>then played zato
>then played dizzy
>played millia shortly
>now gravitating more towards baiken
whys every character so fucking fun bros
The things is that i don't even hate leo as a character it's just that once he's in it becomes pure retardation, like he doesn't even have that good of a neutral, he's really just fucking unga as fuck.
DO DAH MONKAH WIF MEH!
rollback is only bad in shitty implementations (sf5) or with bad connections and packet loss
there is no reason for any modern fg developer not to include both types of netcode ala skullgirls
I can't play anyone other than zato because I've stuck with him so long. Besides maybe baby characters like Raven.
Japan is tiny and has god internet. Murrica is huge and has shit internet. The silly western problems are completely alien to them, so they keep using the system that works great for them.
>Why would you get PUNISHED with increased R.I.S.K. gauge as well as your opponent getting tons of tension meter when you manage to block a difficult high-low mix-up?
You are not getting punished until a long while, it makes the opponent want to keep the pressure going but you also can take advantage of that.
>Why do you get DOUBLE punished for playing footsies (you lose gauge while your opponent builts it when he is walking forward while you walk back
You're not getting punished by playing footsies, just for running away way too much.
>why you guys want us to use gajin networking
>our connection is fine :^)
The only thing you need to know about slayer is
"bait and switch", slayer is a pure counter character.
You need tio pay extra attention to footsies with him so you can have those sweet counter hit dash punches that you can then convert into some crazy shit.
Also his jump-i-frame-cancels into special moves are pretty damn good
>nips are fine with 1-2f delays because that is all they get max within their region
>1-2f delay depending on the fg can completely change the meta
nobody should be content with this. online without rollback is simply not the same game being played, no matter where you are.
KY CHADS RISE UP
TIME TO SHOW PEOPLE HOW HONEST OUR KING IS
If a games online input delay is at all significant then it's no longer worth playing. If rollback lessens input lag than it is by default the better online system to implement
Fucking Smash is unplayable online, the delay is unbearable
>Blitz can probably just go completely and be replaced with some\thing better. The Risk/Reward of blitz was poorly balanced.
I never played too much of Xrd. Why is Blitz so hated?
>Truly, the most significant and well-earned development this story has ever experienced.
This but unironically
I'm a Street Fighter player and I feel too casual to GG, and not because the execution (besides IAD and jump install, I feel like cancelling shit into other shit is way easier than linking). But because there are so many mechanics and characters specified interactions like different waking up timing and straight up kusoge mechanics like danger time, that I feel there is just too much work to be done just to start playing. Let's hope they will casualize it a bit
If you can tackle Tekken you can take Guilty Gear.
>Just look at the pros, they're all old dudes.
In Japan, just like with Tekken. Look at the american tournaments and you will see a lot of younger people playing.
>straight up kusoge mechanics like danger time
danger time is the best mechanic to come out of nu-gg idiot
>If a games online input delay is at all significant then it's no longer worth playing. If rollback lessens input lag than it is by default the better online system to implement
I already only get 2-3f with every european i've played with online, yes, the whole 9 of them.
If they add GGPO, and americans still refuse to play with me, I'll just get frustrated. So no thanks.
He's been in every single game.
How do I do those special cinematic moves that are not finishers but still strong on Rev2?
I could see Blitz be reworked to be closer to DBFZ Reflect (since that's directly inspired by Blitz).
Launch lineup
Sol
Ky
Sin
Millia
Zato
Chipp
Pot
May
Johnny
Raven
Testament
+ two new characters and the boss
>ONLY two to three frames :)
do you have any idea how fucking big that is m8?
Is there even any proper video online that can explain to japs why GGPO is good and the shit ASW uses isn't?
don't care
just want to hear the Metal Soundtrack
>Let's hope they will casualize it a bit
No
modern asw games use variable delay netcode which as you can imagine is a travesty. who the fuck wants their timings changing every few seconds?
ggpo uses proprietary rollback netcode which essentially hides all visible and felt delay if used within a proper environment.
It's on par with PS4 when playing on PC
Native input delay on PS4 is 4f, PC is 1f, why do you think people prefer PC for online in Xrd?
PC has no native delay, so it may as well be the same as playing offline on PS4 (4f native delay).
I've never played offline before and I have no locals, I don't know how that feels like and I never will because I'm a shit player and I would just go 0-2 and go home at EVO so I'm never paying all that money to travel.
>load up tekken with some bros
>as long as you hold any direction and press a button your character does something cool
>everyone is happy and has fun
>load up guilty gear with some bros
>spend 15 minutes explaining them character mechanics and teaching them how to do certain things and how they interact with each other
>still have to open the move list periodically to remember how the fuck that thing is supposed to work
>"Can we just go back to tekken? This is too anal"
>Matters were probably made worse with Ky realizing that he's now related to Sol
More hilarious*
>white piggu go home
or
>works on our island
take your pic
every japanese fighting game will have netcode that barely functions with western infrastructure, you just have to accept that.
Just check your movelist, they're not universal inputs. The motions for them are usually 236236 or 632146 though.
Ok, I hope you enjoy the game with the other 4 western players in your private discord for years to come
>"Now everyone can be the next Diego!"
No because delay is good enough for Japan.
There are also engineering challenges to implementing rollback with modern graphics on consoles. And casuals will still complain about rollback when it happens online, but won’t notice delay unless it is very bad. There is no chance of it being added.
What flawed fucking logic is this post
Do they have a name of category?
What are the numbers? I guess cross positions.
Mash for air tech is probably one of the biggest noob killers in GG.
You'd be surprised by the amount of times I see a new player get hit by blackbeat combos or recovering and then doing a super punishable normal because he was still mashing buttons.
testament fanboy detected. also forgetting the new character in the launch lineup. the rest looked reasonable
>jap devs keep releasing fun fgs with shitty netcode
>why does nobody buy/play our game??????????
fucking nips man
That would be interesting to see although I don't know if that could end up cluttering the button layout.
They're called Overdrives. The numbers just represent the motion, think of a numpad and equate it to the motions you can make on a stick. So 236 would be a quarter circle forward because you go from the bottom position and roll over to the right position.
>1-2f delay depending on the fg can completely change the meta
Really?
>KI, a western fg, has rollback, but isn't sold on the steam store so has little exposure and its KI anyway
>MK11, a western fg, has rollback, but its worse than MKX so nobody cares
>SF5, a japanese fg, has rollback, but is implemented so poorly by ONE person that using sf4's delay netcode would have been a better option
y dev haet rollback?????
Yes I get it, it is like in the military "on your 6" etc.
Ah, the overdrives. I will give a go at Ky today. First time with the brotagonist.
Well it's not really like in the military because when they "on your 6" they're referencing a clock, so the 6 would be on the bottom, but here 6 is on the right.
>but isn't sold on the steam store so has little exposure and its KI anyway
KI has been available on steam for like a year.
VERY IMPORTANT INFO COMING RIGHT UP
KI actually has a fairly sizable population. The fact that you can play people with 250 ping and it feels great makes your pool of available players really high. Killer ranked is filled up too.
When I boot up my bone I get a match faster than tekken and jive, and the quality is always better than those games. I see a lot of windows store users too.
The game just isn't talked about much in the usual circles.
Well just teach them special moves or something. It’s got 5 buttons and a taunt button, and a funky super input, pretty simple
Are you trying to teach them the whole of Guilty Gear in a night?
It can be if the game is designed around some moves being on the edge of human reactions, like a lot of overheads and lows are. A few frames can completely change how the game is played if some moves become unreactable.
I don't use Discord and stil have a lot of fun joining random lobbies to this day. Tekken is way more complex than GG and a lot more popular. Complexity isn't the issue
>I’ve been calling quarter circle back reverse quarter circle forward this entire time
Embarrassing
If it's around 4 frames (BBCP arcade machines have 8~ frames of input lag, 4 more than the console version and some characters are considered stronger due to their now unreactable overheards), I usually start feeling the difference with 3 frames onwards.
That's what Stylish Mode is for
Just give them Stylish Leo or something and they'll have a blast
Not him but whats the general opinion on actual 50/50 meme shit like zangief?
I know I'm retarded for having hope but I still hope every time something like EVO rolls around that Hisako is going to get a crossover in another game.
I haven't played Jive enough to give an opinion
I only play GG and 3S
only shitters bitch about SF grapplers
>webm you can hear
Zangief has to get in to apply that shit, it is balanced because he has a hard time getting into that range. If he got in then it's the mistake of the opponent by not being able to keep him at distance and letting him get the advantage while he's close.
You shouldn’t have put yourself in the situation where you need to deal with it at all.
Will Guilty Gear 2020 have an opening as good as this?
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THE DOCTOR IS HERE
Just jump lol
Beautiful.
Did he straight up went and said Guilty Gear Sex?
I see, like my right side of my keyboard.
shutup
Yup.
OH NO IM FALLING
He said Guilty Gear Zex.
GUESS WHO'S QUICKER!
>install the free Guilty Gear 1 yesterday
>log in
>license expired
>purchase
Welp, back to Rev2 I guess.
IF MY HUSBAND ROBO KY ISN'T IN THIS GAME I’M GOING TO SUICIDE BOMB ARC SYSTEM WORKS
just emulate it
MY FUCKING SIDES HELP
KYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
He's going to be in
As a move for Venom.
The original and at the same time the song that in mirror matches in xx
Honestly this. It's not something you will play too much anyways.
>have to find a torrent of xrd if I even want to try the game offline
Sure it would be nice if games had fucking demos like they used to. For all the shit people give SFV and Capcom, at least they have occasional f2p periods and it's thanks to that I got into the game.
I don't know if they're my favorites, but I think Fuuga and Keep the Flag Flying are underappreciated. Irony of Chaste is very good too. I'm looking forward to hearing Raven's theme most in the new game because I like his Xrd and GG2 themes a lot.
You're going to have your work cut out for you if Bridget is in the new game.
Did they change the shading or something? the models look even better now, its like Xrd was the anime and this new one is the OVA.
I don't mind Bridget, he's really annoying to fight if they are dead set on timerscamming though
I obliviously suppose the little girl with an injured eye is Baiken.
The models are completely new.
>Keep the Flag Flying
It is.
> cheesy line
> low budget 90’s animation
> bad voice acting
> milia’s panty shot
Yup pretty based
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Ok frens.
i noticed that but its not just the new models everything looks much more high quality
This is gonna be a controversial take, but I feel that fighting games should move away from regular public lobbies. Just have ranked, player matches/lobbies, and a casual large scale single elim FT2 tournament mode where matches come and go lightning quick and you move on to the next tournament. Basically the FG equivalent to a BR mode.
THEY FULLY MODELED HIM FOR DUMB STORY MODE CUTSCENES, JUST USE THAT MODEL AND GIVE HIM MOVES PLEASE ARCSYS I MISS HIM
Sol doesn't go all out either. Keeps his sword nerfed and doesn't go Dragon Install.
Don't forget
>Dizzy recycled shots
They will remove dust button, 4 buttons is the thing.
yup
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they added some more levels, and the poly count of the models is definitely a bit higher
doesn't smash have something like spoiler
I like how japan makes stuff because it's cool or fun even if rock music isn't the fad right now. western shart game would have ugly nasty rap music all over this trailer and fugly characters
Funny because the original GG was 4 buttons, with dust being slash+heavy iirc.
Yeah let's go back to using a command for dust, that would totally be more simple and intuitive for new players
>he isn't excited for the absolute kino that short hair allows
>eye turns red
>hair grows long in a split second
Short hair for Ky now is the best thing that ever happened to him since he turned into a gear.
I hope they don't design this for the POS4 controller
pressing all the buttons together on arcade stick is the best thing
dbfz feels like shit on arcade stick
Bro, I think that... Blazblue is over, for good.
Your gonna get spinoffs but a full game? I don't thinks so bro.
is this game gonna be playable on pad
Xrd is so why not
just get a hitbox bro
Fuck off back to Skullgirls Mike Z.
Yes.
Slash + Heavy.
Or what if you remove kick or punch?
I already have one
I was talking about the arcade button layout
Hisako best girl
I fucking hope so. I hate the retarded 5 button layout for Xrd
fantasy strike has no depth
tekken is so simple only 3 characters have meters and the only other system is rage
Having meter doesnt mean a game is complex, and not having it doesnt mean its simple.
I hope Chipp comes back.
RADIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
please be ps5
please bring back robokye and zappa.
please bring back waifu ram
please have slayer meet rachel alucard in a strange playable fever dream
This is some Scrubquotes tier shit
I'd say Tekken is more complex than GG, or at least a lot harder to get into as a new player
I had a pretty fun set with a Leo last night.Why are unga characters so fun?
why wouldn't it? play with what you are most comfortable with
last year's EVO the guy that came in 3rd place was playing on pad
>load it
>expecting nothing
>just a slow ancient fighter
>cool music starts
>pick up the swordman
>start fighting
>double jumps
>dashes
>action
>back and forth
>blockings
What the hell. Feels millions years ahead of things like super street fighter II. It's good!
casualized garbage that literally has auto-combos in the trailer
it looks amazing, but at what cost? it's such a fucking shame, man. they ruined GG.
>FULLY
Just play technical controls, what is the problem?
>That Rev 2 reveal that Sol wasn't the one holding back the entire time
Flipped the entire story on its head for me.
I can't wait to see if my man gets a redesign. He's always looked good.
But he was wasn't he? I thought the point was that neither of them would go all out unless the other was.
I'm gonna start off with Xrd Rev 2 as my first fighting game
how fucked am I
whens baiken
Not fucked, but you'll have to spend more time than usual learning how to do combos.
next entry since she's being cut
>this is your brain on arcsys games
Tekken is much deeper than any GG including +R. Holy fuck you weebs are so clueless
Shoot, I can't tell if you are being ironic or not
It's going to be hard to top this design. It's literal perfection (at least her bottom half is)
Melee is more complex than both
oh no! im falling!
play the tutorials/character trials, they'll teach you important stuff
fighting games can be daunting to get into at first but are very satisfying once you're invested
feel free to change characters a bunch until you find one you really like the feeling of
imagine being this a excited for a game you gonna play for a week at best.
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Your argument was retarded user, it didn't need a deep explanation. 5 buttons is not "easier".
Of course he will, he's been in every game. On a similar note, I hope Answer comes back, but I don't think he will.
the meter character in tekken are the easy ones to my dude
having meter doesn't make a character complex.
Based Bandai Namco sticking it to the weebs.
Ky is simply better at fighting than Sol (Ky is the most dangerous/powerful human in the world), but Sol ha access to more raw power via his Gear nature/Dragon Install.
Sol going all out would be removing his limiter headband.
Ky going all out is simply him saying to himself, "Y'know, FUCK this guy".
I don't think the thing you're talking about is an autocombo. If it's an autocombo then there's surely a way to do it without the autocombo as well. I think it's just a new special move or something.
>weebs
When Harada turned Tekken into that
I came here to hype, not to get hard post more
Have you actually played the old games where dust is s+hs? It really is way more convoluted than just having an actual button for it, it's not intuitive at all
>Ky is a gear now
>got more jacked
It annoys me that Aris worsened the Tekken community to unrecoverable point, it used to be better than this.
What the fuck? Stop allowing Tekkenheads to live rent free.
Just breed more half gear hungry hungry gorillas and have them unga the Backyard shit away
>Why do you fight
>For Justice
>camera cuts to Sol
>For Sin
>camera points to dizzy
that's pretty neat now that we know Sol fucked Justice and Dizzy birthed Sin.
I mean.
P4A had a Dust equivalent mapped to 2 buttons.
So.
He's in.
This, but unironically.
One of p4a' annoyances is the amount of button combinations you need, throw, dust, hop, 1 more, burst. Its one of the things I hate about babytag too
So?
Nah, man have another gay looking swordsman. What? Two gay looking bishoujo swordsmen as main characters are bad? Have a girl with two giant floating swords. Instead of a cool rugged guy like Azrael, make Leo a sword wielder too. Haha swords swords swords. Who cares if punching and grappling are cooler? Have more swords because I'm the guilty gear designer and my tastes are Deviantart-tier trash
What are those giant skeletons in the beginning of the trailer?
My guess is that those are the remains of gears.
can someone help a brainlet out? ive been doing axl's missions and i cant do advanced 7. I cant seem to hit jumping HS after the jumping S.
Watch the sample, keep trying, higher up advanced trials can be very tricky and are never really optimal. You're best off finding some Axl combos from the discord or something, I heard some one wrote a pretty good guide on the Axl discord
I want old baiken back.
quick post songs similar to the trailer one
>484 replies
why
nobody is going to play this shit
shit i guess we should bind it to forward plus kick or backwards plus kick, but only when you're standing on top of them, like Throw. after all Throw is super intuitive right? much better than a 2 button throw command!
I like old Baikens look more but Xrd Baiken has the best voice
The sad truth
define play. because at least a million people are going to buy this game and play it, even if only 5% of them play it regularly after 6 months and 1% of them play it at a competitive level, it would still be a lot of people who played this game.
Ive been doing that but i still cant seem to get it, i thought my problem was i was doing the highjump cancel upwards instead of diagonal upward but that doesnt seem to change much. Thanks user, ill go check them out too.
>at least a million people
lol
99% of gears were giant monsters that ranged from big to fucking huge. The small human ones are special.
And now, you get a black samurai with two (2) swords!
??????
2 button commands are fine, and complaining about them for a game that has garbage like GG's throw system is silly. They are far less convoluted than things like position sensitive moves like close slash and throw.
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These are probably most like that song, but really any of the songs with that singer are reminiscent of it, though ones like Freesia, Coming Home and Lily are a lot less intense.
That is a better throw command though, at least for GG. It wouldn't suit every game, but it suits GG better than a 2 button command.
I'm pretty sure that's the start of his backwalk.
yes
>As much as we're tired of hearing about GGPO
Maybe you should take the damn hint since GGPO games offer an infinitely smoother experience than arcsys ever has.
Even if that is the case, it's a new pose for him. His back walk has never looked like that in the past.
Ky doesn't look like a feminine bishounen anymore. ;_;
No. I don't really know what are you talking about. Robo-ky did appear in Rev2, but no one ever replaced the actual Ky.
Ky is also in Overture. He is even playable.
>No because delay is good enough for Japan.
This. Japan is small, internet is good, pings are always low.
They don't care if a game is dogshit outside of japan because they already think you're dogshit.
That's the Outrage or the Junkyard dog?
Outrage MK II
Sol didn't even have Junkyard dog in the afterstory
But bullet heaven got partially trashed
Is Sol getting thiccer with each installment?
Also, I wonder whether Ky could beat Cliff if he didn't use the moralfag fighting style he loves so much.
Its almost the same shit but with a jacket
And her voice is much better
>moralfag fighting style he loves so much
go watch the afterstory. Ky doesn't fight like a moral fag if he is serious. He actually fights like the greatest scumbag there is. Victory at any cost.
I don't think Sol's thicker here, he just has baggier clothes and a bigger sword, making him look larger too.
Kliff in his prime was pretty strong, Ky would probably win due to his MC priviledge though, and GG powerlevels are dumb and get plenty retconned throughout the series.