HARD GAME GOOD, EASY GAME BAD

it always depends on the game. Some games that focus on the story, or that are LITERALLY for Kids shouldnt be too hard.

the thing about some games many anons give the shit for is that they are simply not the target audience. Pokemon and Zelda games SHOULD be easy cause they are MEANT for kids.

whats the point in playing a game anyone can beat with ease? you might as well watch a fucking movie.

games that are hard demand you learn how to beat them - its like a puzzle. When you buy a puzzle, do you buy the one with only 10 pieces made for a little kid? Stupid ass.

It's the same reason why people play online against other humans: beating other humans feels different, and sometimes better, than beating the computer. If you have beaten a difficult game that most other people have given up on or been deterred from playing altogether because of the difficulty, then you have essentially beaten those other people.

Hard forces you to utilize the game mechanics, anything else is journalist tier.

4 or 5 difficulties is best 2nd to last being the appropriate canon difficulty and last being extra difficult or hardcore mode

Difficulty is not the point. Challenge is, an interesting challenge is fun, and oftentimes creates difficult situations. Difficulty for the sake of difficutly creates poor games. But fun and interesting challenges create fun games. Generally, difficulty is an emergent factor of interesting challenge.

What about SMT games where it's "hard" until you abuse the mechanics then it's braindead easy.

Two words: bragging rights.

>Game offers a choice between Easy or Hard
>People can play Hard all they wish with nothing stopping their choice
>Still gets assmad because an Easy mode exists.

We're male for the most part, challenge is in our blood, but one day we stopped killing trannies and look what happened.

>why play

cause a game is not always about achieving something, its often just about telling an interactive story.

Yeah, you might as well watch a movie if you dont want interactivity.

you don't gain anything without struggle and working hard. If the difficulty is too easy then you might as well be watching a let's play

cause it's fun soulbabby

hard =/= fun

all soulsborne games are trash for tryhards

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And most of the time, any tension that the story is trying to build is demolished by the game being too easy.
>This plot device is super dangerous, be careful
>It's trivial in actual gameplay

>Play on easy
>No ending for you, faggot. Git gud and play on normal!
Contra spat in my face for playing easy. Never again.

>Normal is too easy
>Hard is too hard
>There are 4 difficulties more difficult than Hard

We wouldn't have XiaoXiao without based stickmen. They get the golden era net-pass.

>pugging new gta online missions
>noob host and his friend are doing a really hard mission
>set it on hard mode ofc
>tell them that it's really hard and hard mode will make it impossible for us
>they start it anyways
>restart it 3 times because they both died within 20 seconds all three times at the hard part
>after the third fail they quit the job
this is why we can't have nice things

>play hard mode expecting a change in enemy AI or a reworked mechanic that can be rewarding
>enemies have their dealt damage increased by 200%/your dealt damage is decreased by 50%
FUN!!!!!!

>easy is not fun
>normal is too hard
>10 more difficulties after hard
fucking m&b

When done right, a hard game is the developer's way of saying "Show me if you're actually good at this game"

But done wrong it's just them saying "Show me if you have the patience to get through this game if I make it 5 times as tedious"

because they are fucking retarded, hard mode was meant to give a challenge, something you can beat but requires more skills and thinking, but now devs do stupid shit like this
and then people praise them because "uuuuh dude it took me 20 times to finish this level that mean it's a good game"

I hate that I had to switch to easy for Into the Breach, in my defense I never played a strategy game before.

higher difficulties are inherently more engaging to skilled players, they're more demanding by default and actually put the mechanics of the game you're playing to the test
a lot of games tend to break under the tension of high difficulty, see a whole fucking lot of ""AAA"" single player games, because they're shittily designed from the core and high level play looks like a fucking joke, or the balance for said harder difficulties in itself is a stupid joke no one has any fun with
getting gud is fun
getting gud in a game that's demanding without going into bullshit territory is fun
getting gud in a game with no skill curve and terrible difficulty balancing like nu-TES games isn't fun

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Part of the intrinsic value of video games as an entertainment medium is that is interactable. If a game is easy to the point that it provides little challenge, this element is greatly diminished and the experience becomes boring. By the same token, if a game is too challenging, or challenging in a way that is deemed "unfair" by the player, they can similarly feel as though they are not successfully interacting with the medium, and may lose interest. Thus, a balance in difficulty, even if that "balance" is different for each player, is key.

soulsborne games aren't hard

hard game bad
easy game bad
moderately challenging game that needs you to improve and learn in a balanced, escalating experience good

>EASY GAME GOOD, HARD GAME BAD

Why is this kind of thinking so hardwired in AAA game developers brains?

what about games that ask you that and then hit you with increasing difficulties for replay value up until the hard/slightly bullshit territory like bayonetta, w101 and dmc3?

fpbp

Because most gamers are socially stunted children who have recieved little or no positive reinforcement through their entire lives, so they rely on the e-peen stroking of video games to stroke their ego and validate their existence.

If there is no challenge to overcome I might just as well watch a movie instead.

If the gameplay has depth then increasing the difficulty should increase the level of potential enjoyment. If you for example learnt to play chess properly you would rather have equal matchups than to play with retards all the time.

This does not mean that an easy game is bad, but a game with a difficulty setting should, if properly balanced, be most enjoyable on its highest difficulty setting.

This

we do things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. kinda topical picture kek

Souls is not hard, if you think that I don't know what to tell you.

If it's about telling an interactive story. Why make it a game? I can just youtube the story

No sense of accomplishment in beating an easy game. Though it depends on the type of game and how hard mode is handled more than anything. I wouldn’t expect a life sim like animal crossing to be hard since the point is to relax, but I would expect fire emblem games to pose a challenge without resorting to stat inflation and overpowered enemy exclusive skills since they’re strategy focused.

Because telling an interactive story via input choices like walking around and picking up items, fighting enemies etc. is obviously more interactive than just picking a certain path like in the youtube videos you're talking about.

Difficulty and Challenge are not the same thing OP.
People want interesting experiences delivered trough gameplay, and that is hardly ever posible if a 5 year old can beat the game by pressing the same button 787 times per combat.

Best games are those that dont have difficulty levels tho...

Improving yourself feels good.

if a game has no difficulty settings and is easy but fun I have no problems with it
if a game has difficulty settings I generally pick the equivalent of hard because it makes you pay more attention to mechanics and learn how the game works and I think it's fun to play like that

People unable to play anything but the most ball busting mechanically driven games is the Vidya equivalent of the pretentious assholes that only watch oscarbait and think it makes them smart

Thread should've ended here

>Interactive story
>Press A to shoot bad guy! Quick!!!

Wow, VERY interactive! I, too, love having to randomly press buttons during movie!

Fucking retard.

Based and challengepilled

>normie

Pointless elitism, le epic sekrit club pissing contests, shitty analogies, shitty hypothetical scenarios, "objective" rulesets pulled out the ass, and narrow minded dogmas like everything else on Yea Forums. Fucking worthless bugpeople.

I recently beat Mega Man 2 on hard, and it honestly felt like a better experience. I had to learn and adapt much more than the ""Normal"" difficulty, which only existed in the USA version anyway. Even Metal Man had 2 times the normal health, which resulted in a much more tense boss fight with a genuine sense of accomplishment. I earned his weapon, which still didn't make the rest of the game trivial like in Normal mode. Fighting bosses with their weaknesses still felt like an actual struggle because just attritioning them to death isn't an option with their higher health. The game was designed in such a way that you must learn their patterns and timings to succeed, with boss weaknesses just being another component of the learning process. I'm going to try buster-only and try not to give up when Woodman repeatedly assrapes me again.
tl;dr hard game good because getting good feels good

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It's funny because if you play both difficult games and easier games, you're still somehow considered a filthy casual. These incels are fucking stupid and should douse themselves in gasoline.

I agree with the exception of meme difficulties like Nightmare! from Doom, which are moreso added to throw a bone to masochists than anything else.

I'm a normie and I browse and share 9gag memes on my facebook and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

All paths lead to the same conclusion anyway

If the only difference are stats like hp or damage then it doesn't matter, but if its a game where harder difficulties unlock actual game mechanics or story then yeah playing easier difficulty is stupid.

Sounds like casul talk to me

I always play on normal/medium on my first attempt. I think the only exception was that I played Dawn of War 2 and its expansions (particularly retribution) on easy because I just liked going through the game over and over making different choices.

You might get told this a lot but you can leave this board anytime. Nothing is forcing you to stay here.

Imagine actually feeling pressured to play a game on a difficulty you enjoy less.
Just imagine being such a thin-skinned little pussy that you think there is an obligation to play a VIDEO GAME in a specific way.

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>Say you play games on easy.
>Some fucking nobody on the internet makes fun of you.
>Immediately victimize yourself and make the biggest stink ever.

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Instead of making the same thread every day, why don't you just take a break from Yea Forums?