Did he deserve to die?

Did he deserve to die?

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Yes. But maybe Duncan shouldn't have initiated a guy who fucking has a wife and child into the grey wardens

>"Hum I don't know it I sho-"
>*instagibbed instantly*
>"I'm sorry"
Yes I got it, the grey wardens is a really serious order of really serious badass people yes
maybe he should have told him before he might die ?

Maybe he shouldn't have signed up to be a soldier of any kind if he was so worried about his family.

Maybe he didn't have a choice

Duncan didn't force the player character, i don't see why anybody else would be.

He was pulling out his sword though, he was asking for it desu

It was a poorly written scene done purely for shock value.

>Duncan didn't force the player character
Yes he did.

He summons the right of calling even if you take every "fuck no" option in any of the origins, so yes, he forces you. My point is that I can get why you would get some guy with nothing to lose, but not why he would want a sir knight to leave fucking everything behind and not give a fuck about his family when told he would never be able to turn back

As if he didn't have warnings enough; actually travelling to Ostagar to fight a large battle against Darkspawn, and joining a group of dark spawn hunters should've been all he needed to know that he may not be going back to see his wife and future kid. I am wondering if he would've actually survived the ritual though.

He wasn’t forced to join Wardens. He entered a tournament where the winner would be drafted into the order. He chose to enter on his own

no, but it was necessary nonetheless.

Is that Yanderedev?

Why not? They recruit literally anyone regardless of who they are

Is that why it makes sense and fits the narrative and logic of the story?
He couldn't be let to blab about drinking poison and most recruits dying, so he could not leave, and he was panicking, also a trained fighter, so he might have killed one of the 2 wardens who are of paramount importance to defeat the darkspawn, so he wasn't worth subduing to force him to drink the blood.
Sure it had shock value, but it was also the sensible thing to do.

He was fine with potentially dying in battle while defending his homeland, just not with joining in on some evil-looking ritual where he might randomly suffer an ignoble death.

Warden recruitment is a one way street. You either die at the joining or become a Warden and die to the Darkspawn in, if you're lucky, the Deep Roads in your mid-40s. If people knew the details nobody would join. Same reason Army Recruiters don't tell you about the bits of flesh and bones that once had a name they scraped off the sidewalk in some shit hole country and shipped back home for a "funeral". The only difference is that the Wardens try their best to actually keep it secret.

That''s retarded in a different way though.
Are they desperate for more Wardens or not?
Why the hell are trained fighters battling for the rare and special honour of being a warden while at the same time the wardens are conscripting random unwilling thieves into their ranks?

daily reminder,

dragon age 4 is being made by the fine people who brought you this

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Duncan should have knocked him out and then forced the blood thrown his throat. But that would have been very risky.

Sometimes you’ll need bodies to throw at darkspawn until they die and sometimes you need skilled warriors to win battles. The unwilling thieves might always remain as regular foot soldiers but the skilled warriors have a higher chance of rising through the ranks

That doesn't explain why they wouldn't just recruit everyone at the tournament, since they're all willing and fighting for the "honour" anyway. Apparently they turned away the second place and below, they're not worth turning into Wardens, but the random cut-purse is perfect.

We all know user, we are discussing an old Dragon Age, doesn't mean we give any fuck about Bioware now and whatever shit they manage to churn out.

They didn't recruit that many people because the joining is such a well kept secret that those who try to back out of it upon learning what it entails are pig stickered right there.
Fucking duh dude.

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;_;

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The random cut purse was going to to be put to death anyway, so you may as well recruit and have him to die to darkspawn instead

>she's genuinely humble to have access to books and a few personal belongings
>that naive and innocence personality, yet wizened if not jaded outlook on life
>tfw didn't get her approval high enough at end-game
fuck man

for him

I recruited her first (by chance), and she ended up dying in the deep roads in the epilogue.
I didn't realize it would change with approval.

>He couldn't be let to blab about drinking poison and most recruits dying
Why not? Because people would be able to make an informed decision about whether or not it's worth it to risk dying just to hear a demon scream in your ear every ten seconds?

I expected nothing, and Im still disappointed in DA2

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I like 2. Bunch of people who don't like each itgee to the nth degree and only stay together because of Hawke, but over time some become friends.

He knew the rules.
If you risked the joining, you could die. Duncan aslo told them there was no turning back.

You don't get to be choosy when a rapine horde of demonic forces is storming the realm and killing everything in its path with no signs of slowing down.

So they're not desperate for more recruits, then. So why hire the random cutpurses and force other people to join against their wills?
Those sorts of people are by far the most likely to try to back out of it, and reveal the secrets or just die pointlessly, surely?
This is what I mean though, on the one hand they recruit any random people just because they "may as well", and on the other hand it's a secretive order that's so difficult to get into that they hold entire tournaments between warriors where the grand fucking prize is the right to ATTEMPT to join them. It doesn't make any sense.
It's either hard to join the Wardens or it's not, it can't be both ways, and yet it apparently is. It's the greatest honour any warrior can aspire to, and at the same time it's so shit they're forced to conscript from the absolute dregs of society just to fill their numbers.
I honestly think they either didn't think about it at all, or Ser Jory's backstory was just left over from an earlier revision of the story where the Wardens were selective and elite.

The party members all feel like fan fiction characters.
Anders is the only interesting one, which is surprising because I didn't like him that much in Awakening.