Rely on Patreon money for years to make your game

Hopefully this will let people learn about the savage nature of man, and that giving money to any project in kickstarter, patreon, et al, is essentially the same as giving money to a homeless guy. It's an act of charity, so don't expect anything in return.

Imagine thinking backing a storefront that literally doesn't even have a shopping cart feature is a good idea.

imagine relying on outrage advertising to sell your game instead of the actual merit of the game
just says how shit the actual game is

it really makes me wonder what these autists do when they play an old game that forces you to install Punkbustr or OpenAL or some shit like that. Do they type up a really angry rant about "muh consumer rights and industrial terrorism"

This i don't know why every western indie artist insist on doing adventure time calarts tier shit,

They literally described that steam drones are mentally ill and got their proof.
>fake screenshots
>Creating fake stories on discord to spread propaganda (malaysia dad stuff)
>Making fucking fake videos to defend fake screenshots like wtf
>And some mentally ill people still defending it

I actually did not know this about EGS until just a bit ago. I can’t believe they expect people to gravitate towards their platform.

Imagine caring

>can we at least all agree that the devs of Ooblets are fucking cunts?
Of course. And because of that I'm seeing lots of free advertising here.

>backing a storefront
nigga get over yourself

Hope they pay you enough to deal with us.

holy fucking shit user

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Looks like numale tranny shit from ten miles away. Anyone who backed this deserves what they got.

>launch steam
>click play
>play game
>launch epic
>click play
>play game
quit being intellectually dishonest and pretending these are competing products and not just shitty DRM wrappers selling different products. if Kroger doesn't sell a box of cereal you want you're not gonna boycott Walmart just because they're not Kroger.

>like clockwork

None of it is fake though. Keep coping, tranny.

>acting all smug from one (you) for your tepid bait

Who the fuck wants to buy this indie trash anyway?
What type of fucking name is OOBLETS
Who fucking cares what gamer store it's on. Who the fuck unitonically uses patreon to give other people money.

Kroger isn't going to ban me from the store if come and go repeatedly to buy cereal. Because they don't have shopping carts, you absolute retard. Steam has serious problems but pretending that Epic isn't a scam is just being willfully ignorant.

I still don't understand that utter piece of crap in the twitter backlash thread going on about how EGS is a godsend to indie developers and they welcome this.....that's probably the worst thing to come out of this whole debacle in my eyes.

The day when indie game devs are no longer out there to make a game for the people and just expect this sort of thing is coming the way I see it.

>Give people money on empty promises
>They don't fulfill them
When will faggots stop doing this?

Imagine thinking this warrants a muslim-level shitstorm.

>(you)

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CEO of Epic has been defending the autistic shitfit from the devs of this piece of shit game. Literally shitting on customers and pretending they're the victim for it. If you don't think that's a serious red flag not to trust them, that's on you. A dumbass and his money, and all that.

that girl looks like she belongs in a drug commercial for depression or some shit

>banning
>it was temporal blocking of your credit card because of protection
Stop believing Reddit memes

just download another launcher

Shut the fuck up talk about something else

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>Temporal blocking
A card block that transcends TIME ITSELF

>this stupid meme again
your bank or credit card company will lock anyone out on any store if you make 5+ separate purchases in the span of like 30 seconds as an anti fraud measure. the entire reason this was a thing was because the dude who did it, did it intentionally with tabs open ready to buy everything in the span of seconds. if you buy products like a normal human and not a goddamn autoscript bot nothing will happen. a store cant do anything to your fucking card itself

I wonder why the devs are like this...
twitter.com/perplamps/status/1157734799139721216
oh :)

There's a world of difference between distrust and hate mails or review bombs user.

Some deluded brainlet just bought like 7 copies at the same time and cries about shopping carts because retard is too incompetent to buy one game at time

>your bank or credit card company will lock anyone out on any store if you make 5+ separate purchases in the span of like 30 seconds as an anti fraud measure.
>a store cant do anything to your fucking card itself
wow if only there was a way to buy multiple products at once

It's the typical low effort tranny art style.

Why should I waste my time buying things one at a time? Especially online?

>did it intentionally

It was multiple people who got locked, and they did that because they DIDN'T HAVE SHOPPING CARTS TO MASS PURCHASE THINGS DURING A SALE. Epic has more than enough money from how much Fortnite gave them. Let alone all the times people purchased licenses for Unreal Engine. It is inexcusable. Suck a cock, Tencent shill. Eat your rice and shut the fuck up.

We should support consumer friendly valve, who gave us always online DRM, account based license purchases instead of installers, early access, 0 store curation letting literal bitminers be sold, loot boxes, and paid mods.

Because it's a fucking video game store not your weekly food

nobody cares about your shitty second attempt at shilling a game on Yea Forums

imgur.com/a/7du1ztj

really makes me think

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And? It's my money and I can spend it how I want. If I want to buy more than one game at a time, ESPECIALLY DURING A FUCKING SALE, then I should be able to and not be punished for wanting to spend money in your store.

OP here. I'm not shilling. Literally the exact opposite. Avoid this game like the plague. There is no way it will be good, and the devs are horrible people.

>I could buy each game I want like a human and have it take 3 minutes
>or I could open 10 tabs and click buy on each in 10 seconds to get my card locked intentionally to create fake drama
you people act like not having a cart is the end of fucking times, people dont buy goddamn videogames in bulk orders

So it's THAT good? I guess I'll preorder it, thanks OP

Why are Steam drones so cringe?

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You're really trying to defend the lack of a basic fucking feature literally every other online storefront has? Enjoy that Epic money, shill

Post the pasta you know the one.

>website full of furries, weebs and trannys
gee I wonder

>pledging to paetron
>giving kickstarter money
>"buying" based on trailers and promises
>pre-ordering
if you do one of the above you don't deserve to complain about anything because you haven't signed any contract about the quality of the game, you freely threw cash away and you have NO ONE but yourself to blame
if you can't see the obvious redflags like this artstyle, no only you don't have the right to cry about it, you also deserve it

all publicity is good publicity

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it all makes sense now... woah

What the FUCK are they thinking being so based?

Because Steam is based.

There is no reason for it to take 3 minutes. There is literally no other store on the planet that forces you to select an item and then purchase it BEFORE you can purchase another product.
Even at brick and mortar, you have shopping carts and can send items to the front to be held by cashiers.
Every other website and competition website has this feature. Why not Epic? If they are trying to provide a competitive platform and claim they are user friendly and for the consumer then they should implement features that actually reflect this.

I didn't defend anything, I'm telling you that the lack of a shopping cart is not the huge issue you seem to think it is, and any issues that could arise from it is easily avoided. Because you're a manchild you just whine about everything and massively exaggerated the actual situation. The lack of cloud saves is a much bigger deal than having to click "buy" on each page instead of "add to cart"

You do realize it's more than just a button and there are psychological reasons to having a "Shopping Cart" versus just a "Buy" button?

Reminder

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the fucking Google play store on mobile doesn't have a shopping cart because people don't buy things on it in bulk quit pulling shit out your ass
what, autism?

>launch epic
>let the dystopian chinese government monitor and collect all your private data, including bank information
Some of us actually care about the survival of the western liberal democracy.

>comparing a cellphone app store to a dedicated website/launcher revolving around purchasing video games

Retard. Suck off Ooblets some more.

Why does Yea Forums suddenly care about this "tumblr art game that looks like shit and I wouldn't buy it" anyway? Lashing out like this is usually driven by... fear. A fear of what? That Steam won't be the premier place for PC games?

Or, is it more likely that you won't be able to "punish" the game by not buying it or leaving negative reviews until you get your way?

If you've ever read I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, Yea Forums reminds me of the AI who loves to torture and abuse the ones he thinks he has control over, but is instantly worried that he'll lose his play things forever.

Steam drones are such fucking crybabies

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>very small gains
Haha

watcha doin there rabbi?

fear is not the same thing as disgust or revulsion. You can be positively repulsed by a thing without a hint of fear being present.

If [Game Title] was on EGS, Steam, and GOG, then what reason would any consumer have to purchase [Game Title] on EGS over the other two options?

>comic about someone making up fake shit to boost their agenda

Wow you almost get it. Almost.

Nice pasta bro

steamcommunity.com/app/593150/discussions/0/1741102632991285495/

>Why do you even care that these developers are just taking money from people and then saying they aren't obligated to give them anything!? You don't even like Epic!

Because letting this become a trend in the industry is just about the worst fucking idea imaginable.

hey dumbass don't know if you got the memo or are still stuck in 2003 but about 70000% more people use that cellphone app store

I hope you're not one of the retards that fell for this pasta.

Exclusivitity wars belong to the console plebs not on the PC. Allow the game to be available on multiple platforms like GOG, Steam and even EGS. If the platform is sooo gooood then customers will come without having to buttfucked by lying developers who use their patreons as an interest free loan.

I'm sure you will get over it

>COMPARING A FUCKING CELLPHONE APP STORE TO A WEBSITE/LAUNCHER DEDICATED TO BUYING VIDEO GAMES

Hey, dumbass, even fucking Walmart and Target have shopping carts for their websites.

Its easy.

Doesn't iTunes have a shopping cart too

I wouldn't defend them but I would call you faggot for caring about this at all.

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I never understood the shopping cart thing. Can someone please explain it to me in basic terms/. I really have not fucking clue what the functional difference between a shopping cart and no shopping cart is.

>why do you even care!?
Because pretending that this isn't a problem is for faggots

>These are the people on Yea Forums that tell me Epic is bad

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i don't remember steam forbiding devs to sell their shit on other stores/platforms

Shopping carts for websites is literally just marking multiple items to purchase at once. EGS doesn't have that, so you have to go through the entire payment process each time you want to buy something. This can be a problem during a sale, where you want to buy a large amount of items in a short period of time. Because it literally caused people's cards to get flagged for potential fraud

Regardless of the Epic shills trying to downplay this, I just want you all to remember why this is a horrible decision for the devs. Epic is NOT going to fund a second game from them unless they can prove the product will have value, and the only way to do that is with a successful kickstarter, now why in gods name would anyone want to give these devs money after what they've been pulling this past week? They will never be able to secure funding for a second game ever again

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No shopping cart = can only buy one thing at a time

I see. Thanks.

instead of giving hrt to people that want to transition they make em play this game
you'll pass for sure after a few sessions
prolly the most gay shit i've ever seen

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Are these people aware that the only reason they aren't in jail is because laws haven't caught up to the digital age yet?

Holy fucking shit you can't be this retarded right? You have to compare a store with the UI of a phone in mind with several different forms of media to even begin to make Epic look good.

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Bots are out in full force today.

>fat incel
>console migrant
>Tumblr user
add some furries and you got the entire steamdrone checklist

>there is NO STORE ON THE PLANET THAT DOES THIS
>THAT STORE THAT DOES THIS AND IS RUN BY ONE OF THE BIGGEST CORPORATIONS IN THE ENTIRE WORLD DOESNT COUNT

Holy shit you weren't baiting, holy hell you're too far gone to argue with, you actually don't understand the basic concept of people buying more than one thing at once during a sale to the point that you have to compare it to a wildly different type of system that never has universal sales nd functions entirely differently. Get help man, your double-digit IQ is showing

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Google has sales, are you even old enough to own a phone?

One store, while literally everything else on the internet does. Once again, even fucking Walmart has a shopping cart feature for the website.

You would have to be one sad, dysfunctional fuck to worry about everything as inconsequential as this. The 16 people who wanted to buy more than one game out of that shit catalog during that ONE sale have probably already forgotten about it, you should as well.

If it wasn't a big deal, then why do you Epic shills have to constantly say it's not a problem?

I actually think the mushrooms are pretty adorable, but everything else just looks like cookiecutter tumblr shit.

Copypasta or not, he's right that it's ridiculous how Yea Forums pretends to care about the game all of a sudden. If you check the archive, there was maybe 5 ooblets threads in the last 2 years. But ever since some EGS shit-stirrer posted the exclusivity blogpost here, you guys have been at it non-stop.
Check it out:
boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/ooblets/type/op/

You guys are playing right into their hands.

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>early access
Wasn't Minecraft the first early access game?
>0 store curation letting literal bitminers be sold, loot boxes
Desura and itch.io did it earlier. GamersGate barely is above them.

Wow, they can afford groceries for a week.

"Any publicity is good publicity" doesn't work if you're selling a product. Nobody would buy Coke if the drink made you piss blood, and the company called everyone Nazis when they complained about it.

that hasnt been true for the last 50 years.

>All publicity is good publicity
>Meanwhile the devs are runnign damage control on shoving gamers in ovens
Really makes you think

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Source on the devs saying all this to the backers/fans/etc? What did they say?

Basically nobody's aware.

I'm not chiming in to say it's not a problem. I'm chiming in to say you are a faggot for getting worked up over something that will have no discernible effect on any day of your life.

>no argument
Thanks for proving me right, retard.

youtu.be/xdfB8VDCVtQ

Goes through pretty much everything.

literally the post above you.
People are claiming it is fake (epic and the devs) no one else thinks its fake.
it is exactly in line with the other released official communications the devs have given us of their own accord.

>one backs down from public pressure
>the other declares that only developers matter
They are competing products, both shitty but one is worse.

You are trying very hard.

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What's with the discord and making racist comments?

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Trying what? to tell the user what is happening?
That is what is happening.

>The devs

You mean the real dev's retarded husband who takes care of the 'business' side of the company

I can't blame an indie dev for taking a good deal from EGS. Indie game development is oversaturated and there isn't much of a future for many devs out there.
Being a cunt about it is the real issue.

>Being harassed for being stupid is the same as being harassed for being black
Man, these fanboys really understand the struggle.

>no one else thinks its fake that a dev said gas the gamers in DISCORD and nobody reacted
>saying gas the gamers is in line with saying gamers are entitled
You're on one.

They have 1,102 patrons on patreon. This is down from 1,192. Meaning they lost a mere 90 patrons after all this "bad" publicity. But you have to remember that many of those who dropped probably did so due to the Epic deal itself, and not in reaction to the bad pub. So you have less than 8% losses from Patreon supporters. These are the people most dedicated to the cause. They are your hardcore supporters. And the vast majority of them remain supportive even after you got a publisher.

OK, so now think of it on a wider scope: You have potentially hundreds of thousands of people who never heard of your game before. But now the supposed bad publicity is being pushed in their faces. These people who were certainly never going to buy the game, because they never heard of it, are now potential buyers.
How many of them do you think will care about the things you said? More than 8% or less than 8%? I would say less than 8%. Because the wider audience is even less invested than the patreons. They won't feel the insult as much as patron would. Therefore, they won't feel scorned enough to dismiss the game outright. They'll just see if the game looks fun to play or not.

And you also have to keep in mind that the pervasive narrative, is that the Ooblets were under attack by "trolls" and "entitled gamers" with "death threats". The casual audience will look at this as just angry incels attacking well meaning indie devs, and nothing more.

So while the stand to lose about 8% of potential buyers, what does that mean when you've increased potential buyers by 100K? Like, you still have about 92K more people than you did before the drama.

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There isn't much of a future for any dev that doesn't belong to the top corporations.
Should they all sell out? Do we have Disney buy them all?

I don't think this is an accurate analogy but it's certainly an amusing one

But no one thinks its a fake screenshot. No one.

I can totally blame an indie taking a deal without first considering those who supported them.

Steam is gay as fuck for all the bullshit that came with the takeover of digital distribution, but I'm not about to install chink spyware

This is some manufactured as fuck outrage. Who even gives a solid shit about this game?

>"I don't like what your doing with this game and I think it's pretty underhanded to mess the people who contributed to the project."
>Y-Yeah? Well Y-You wouldn't have liked the game anyway, it's not for YOUR demographic!

It's cute that he calls everyone entitled babies for getting mad about this and yet he openly admits his expected audience is little kids who have to buy this through mom and dad and literally have no say in the matter.

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As someone who is currently from the server, there's 2,000+ subs but only like ~70 people are talking. I wouldn't take anything based on hard numbers seriously, especially when there's people like me who are there to watch the fireworks go down.

Seriously, it's really entertaining. 5 days of 24/7 drama as both sides talk down to one another for not sharing an opinion. Probably the best things these people ever made, way more entertaining than the game was supposed to be.

Except that the only people talking about the "threats" and "trolls" are the devs and shill journalists. Regular paying people are talking about the real issue, which is the terrible PR. And if you're trying to sell a product, bad PR is a nightmare.

>>promise a Steam release, and then all of a sudden sign an exclusivity deal with EGS at the last minute
Is that why it has a steam store page?

Who the fuck cares, it is literally a game for little girls

Pretty much.

I think we can.

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"Regular" paying people read journalist sites to inform their decisions, or go by word of mouth.
You have to understand that the patreon only has 1,102 supporters. But when the game is released, it could potentially reach 100K or higher, depending on how much publicity it gets. And publicity is controlled by the journos.

So when joe schmoe is thinking about buying Ooblets, he'll look up some reviews, and he might notice some articles in the search results "Ooblet devs receive death threats." or he'll see some user reviews on the steam page "Devs are rude, do not support." And it will mean nothing to him.

You're assuming that the average person is even interested in this game in the first place, especially when the game's not even planned to come out for the next year or two, especially when the average normie and journo has the attention span of an insect.

By the time the game comes out, nobody will give a shit, so it'll just sink to the bottom like the rest of Epic's exclusives do, except it won't even have a wave to ride on since the devs are too incompetent to take advantage of the situation by putting it out there before

Every time you make one of these stupid threads you're just advertising for them.

A game where you farm your own pokemon squad and then battle them? A game that is a cross between pokemon, stardew valley, and donut county? People definitely are interested in this. It's only a matter of getting the word of it out there. Making it known.

>chinks subsidizing SJWs who openly insult the customer and make what appears to be a dreadful product
just another reason to hate commies. imagine any other industry where the company openly shits on the potential customer getting away with it--actually, Hollywood does, and Hollywood is also being kept afloat entirely by chinkbux.

Why would anyone play this game when there are better alternatives available that haven't destroyed their PR by making dumbass comments and/or selling out to Epic?

You really overestimate how many people are going to give a shit about this game in the time it takes the devs to push it out the door.

you do all realise that no one would have ever even heard of this game if it wasn't for this controversy right? honestly seems like they did the right thing by making you faggots sperg out.

who gives a fuck about this shit game

I think it's obvious that people are naturally attracted to these style of games. The PR is going to put the game in people's minds. And good that they're delaying it, because the drama will fade, but the journos will remember its existence.

>game devs
>being whiny obnoxious cunts

Colour me surprised. The entire gaming community is a fucking sespit, but indie devs are next level

They're not even delaying it, they've just been dragging their asses getting it out the door.

You also don't seem to understand that these types of games are dime a dozen and that the drama surrounding this game is going to be a giant elephant in the room whenever anyone brings up the game from this point forward.

Hell, I'd imagine the drama will just restart again if the game flops (as is typical for these types of games) or if they try to double down harder in regards to the situation.

>who gives a fuck about this shit game
This

>your bank or credit card company will lock anyone out on any store if you make 5+ separate purchases in the span of like 30 seconds as an anti fraud measure.
Thankfully I don't need 5+ separate purchases to buy 5+ separate games on Steam, so this isn't a hurdle I need to clear.
>a store cant do anything to your fucking card itself
Wrong. Years ago Paypal fucked up and sent ten "verification holds" ($1 each) to my debit card in rapid succession, triggering an automatic fraud prevention hold on the card. Any vendor with a merchant account that processes credit cards can do the same thing if they screw something up.

meanwhile the dev says on twitter that this video is fake and can't even prove it