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Lootboxes. Nobody cared about CS:GO before lootboxes.

If csgo got rid of first shot inaccuracy, rng in general and fixed its god awful hitreg and slidey animations maybe more people would play it. Instead they're adding epic zoomer bait and hosting hvh servers.

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Sad, isn't it?

CSGO provides an easier thrill, it gets normies shouting BAHHH what a lucker! Tsk again again again!

>RNG recoil

CSGO is only good for mindless deathmatch and surfing.
Playing Competitive is autism

play cs 1.6 instead.

>play the game that is even more rng and dead

>I see no advantages over Insurgency or Squad
It's a super solid teamplay game even with random pubbers, where you can actually make a big impact on every round by being decent.
Squad and Insurgency fail at both.

1.6 is dead

why Yea Forums hates cs now?
It had cs 1.6 servers before,

>Playing Competitive is autism
t. i suck ass and cry when my teammates tell me that i need to learn how to play the damn game before going online and wasting other people's time with my stupidity

>complains that recoil is too hard
>complains that players are too good
Yup it’s a scrubpost

everyone on Yea Forums is underage now who wants instant gratification

there's thousands of servers.

Zoomers are scrubs and prefer games that hold their hand or distract them with cinematic gameplay and dress up gimmicks

I simply don't agree with the game mechanics. It's like world of tanks vs war thunder. You can't do much in WoT against a wolf pack. In War Thunder, you can apply real-life tactics, assume a hull-down position and one-shot a dozen people. I've done it with my SU-122 (difficult with HEAT), SU-152 (HE easy peasy), Tiger (APCR takes skill).
I don't expect to buckshot a guy not wearing armor centre mass point blank and him to waltz around till the end of the round and plant a bomb.

It's autism because mmr is a joke scoring technique with zero mathematical backing. You can have a bad day and several bad rando matches, and lose several titles. What a joke.

>casuals
how about just playing insurgency instead retard
everyone on 4/v/ is underage, newfag or reddit tourist
THERE ARE GAMES THAT CATER TO YOUR SPECIFIC BRAND OF FAGGOTRY RETARD.
PLAY THEM.

>rng recoil
Don't run or jump while firing, and don't try to fight when you're out of range for your weapon. If you do this you can make hits reliably. You don't even need to learn spray patterns at first, just do shorts bursts or single shots.

>how about just playing insurgency instead retard
>PLAY THEM
I do, I just came here to call CSGO players braindead.

>how about just playing insurgency instead retard
Unlike cs:go Insurgency is actually a good game.

>Playing csgo in 2019 when siege exists

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>DUDE RANKED MATCHMAKING LMAO
This alone is why I'll never play this shit. Matchmaking in games is already bad, but playing with shitters who only care about ranking up is just awful.

The recoil is not RNG but it's still completely retarded.

it's okay to be too braindead to be decent at cs:go

>cat piss is better than dog shit

>Playing cs:go at all

>You can have a bad day and several bad rando matches, and lose several titles.
Lmao. I've never been deranked once in the last three years and I've lost plenty of matches.
Every time I end up slowly climbing to supreme and then quitting game for like half a year because I get performance anxiety at that rank for some reason.

>"CSGO Isn't like insurgency so it's bad"
>just play insurgency then
>"Fuck you insurgency is good"
You have the game you like, and you're complaining that a game you don't like isn't designed exactly the same as the game you do like. What is the point?

You have to be autistic or braindead to play CSGO. There's no depth or skill ceiling. You can bounce grenades of walls in insurgency too. However in CSGO I can just run an aimbot and annihilate everyone, whereas in insurgency I can't damage someone with body armor with a pistol.

>I like game X thus every game has to be like it.

because, at the end of the day, even a retard can point and click.

>the literal babby cant figure out spray patterns so he has to resort to games with aim assist or special one-shot moves

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ITT

People are can’t get past the discipline and learning curve of Csgo and therefore it’s bad.

>no skill ceiling
Woah, CSGO must be a game for 300iq pros, there's no limit to the amount of skill you can have

I see M4 carbine and I expect to pierce any amount of kevlar at 20 yards. Therefore, CSGO should have its own made-up cyberpunk weapons.

lmao arenababies mad their shill thread doesn't work so they resort to this.

>RNG recoil
Lie
>Autism level players with thousand of hours
It's been out for fucking years, what do you expect you mong

If it's bait I don't even care because people genuinely believe this shit and post it elsewhere.

It's not even that, people just have an idea of an fps then get mad that csgo happens to be different from that.

>playing quake in 2019 when overwatch exists

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imagine being on the head of an unmoving target with an ak and it doesn't hit, that's the power of CS

>for fucking years
League doesn't let players with "fucking years" of playtime with newbies. So CSGO shouldn't either.

What? CSGO doesn't, casual is casual for a reason, competitive puts you with low levels, or were you struggling with silver players?

imagine being upset that you cant run and strafe while spraying an AK and getting headshots just because you moved your cursor there. I too am pissed of that CSGO doesn't give me drone strikes after my 30 kill streak

I like cs, just not go. Csgo is where fun GOes to die.

I'm not OP, I've 857h in CSGO. You can easily get matched against anyone in casual.
Strawman.

It doesn’t? There is an mmr system in place for valve matchmaking and third party leagues like ESEA and face it also exist

There is this thing called balance and meta. And CS:GO never was about realism. If you don't like casual games like CS - it's ok. Just play Insurgency and Squad if you want realism.

Reading comprehension, I was saying casual is casual for the reason of it's not meant to be taken seriously. Retard.

Ive never played Comp but I see how it has consumed my friends
I just wanna run around and shoot heads, and CSGO is f2p

I do.
See

thats literally what you are upset about, because other than that every single gun fires on cursor for the first shot, if stationary

>"mastering" any shooter whatsoever that doesn't at least attempt realism

The most colossal waste of time imaginable.

CS is fun, but for fuck's sake you can't even do something as simple as AIM DOWN THE SIGHTS EXCEPT FOR THREE FUCKING GUNS.

Why not put effort into a shooter that would prepare you for a real life conflict, if you ever found yourself in one?

>first round of an AK always goes where your pointing
Well done outing yourself as a non-player contrarian. Suck a bag of pimple covered dicks, fag

>playing overwatch

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>being mad that casual isn't tier based

Fucking moron holy shit.

>THREE FUCKING GUNS
And those guns can hit where the red dot doesn't point. Adding to it, the red dot is somehow zeroed in on any point in spacetime.
>prepare you
Errr...... shoot guns IRL.

The game isn't designed to be played run and gun, either don't play it that way or stop being a bitch about missing headshots. If you're standing still, that's incredibly rare to have happen.

ADS is fundamentally bad for fps games

>playing CS:GO
OH NO NO NO NO

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What's wrong with rng recoil? If you take your time and go semi auto, you're accurate, but shoot less bullets, duh. If you go full you can't control the gun and you're less accurate, but shoot more bullets. Something for something. Risk and award.
It's not like everyone autistically uses the same amount of strength when shooting the gun every single time.
I don't even play CS.

>playing quake
No one does that now. They just complain about how no one else plays quake. Even though they don't either.

>realism is a benchmark for a games quality
No and opinion invalidated immediately. This is coming from someone with thousands of hours in Arma 2 and 3 btw

Why? If crouching or slow walking has an effect on your spread in CS, why not add ADS? Retarded.

Just play insurgency. I threw out this arcade trash instantly after picking up insurgency.

I actually played CSGO in a competitive match the other day and had a good experience. Also :
>all these fags moaning about RNG

Just try fucking aiming, you can't run around firing an AK and expect it to hit wherever your cursor is pointing. If you duck and don't move for a sec your first couple of shots will hit exactly where you point - hence the strategy.

>Insurgency shills
sad.

>my crosshair is on the guy why aren’t my bullets hitting him wahhh
Lmao. Go back to simple small brain shooters

What kind of fps do you play?

>It's a "Yea Forums still doesn't understand that all recoil mechanics are an element of RNG" episode

It is amazing how god damn stupid this board is. Maybe it's just the average FPS fan, or the average Yea Forums browser.

Just play a different game.

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>same amount of strength
Firing from the hip, your AKM shots would mainly deviate along the X axis as you're rotated to the right and compensate to the left. It's not a question of strength but posture, a grown 6'*" adult (avg. russian soldier) with good posture can easily place 3-round bursts on-target at 30 yards.

>CS shills

youtube.com/watch?v=ceaqz66WRBc

Why is the crosshair there if not to act as a crosshair?

So it's settled, CSGO should have its own made-up innacurate guns so as not to misrepresent real-life ones and lie to people.

cope.

Its realistic in that it accounts for human error

See
Csgo isn’t going for realism. It’s goal is to be more aimed towards hardcore competition in an arena setting. And I have played insurgency since the mod came out you fag

The most realistic game on the planet still "lies" to people about things. Stop being a retard.

The crosshair is a reference. The “real crosshair” is invisible and must be learned through discipline. It’s made that way so you simply just can’t point and click. It’s harder than that and therefore has a higher skill cap than most shooters

why do cs fags act like it's the deepest shooter ever when it's really not that complex?

I didn't say they were bad games, just that no sane person should take them so seriously. They're for dumb fun and giving it any more thought is just a waste of energy.

>muh RNG when pros can consistently hit shots
you're just bad

CSfags are literally just defending the game because a few autists spout the same criticisms and willfully play the game wrong

we dont, we just make fun of fags that pretend like cs relies on luck

I see the quake boomers are upset again

>If csgo got rid of first shot inaccuracy

Honestly the biggest flaw of the game. Valve did it to try and balance the guns but it's a shit system. They wanted people to upgrade from the M4 and AK to the SG and the AUG, and they can't seem to find a decent way to do it without adding first shot RNG or by just making the SG and AUG cost slightly more.

First shot inaccuracy isn't that big of a deal, but it fucking sucks dick and is a trash way to balance weapons.

So casual it hurts. CSGO's ranking system is actually really nice. It accounts for your kills, who you kill, and who kills you along with round wins and losses. Basically you can end up ranking up off of tie games if you play well enough, I've had it happen multiple times.

Hell, I've lost something like 7 games in a row and deranked, only to win like 3 and rank back up because I was consistently topfragging.

When you spray the bullets go up from your crosshair, after 12 or so shots then tend to even out and go left then right. You're supposed to learn how to control the recoil by pulling down.

It works for the initial shots, it's not supposed to allow you to use every gun like a laser beam.

It's a good-enough approximation for the limitations of internet play. CSGO doesn't even try, it's not even designed to be partly realistic.

For some reason, I hace always felt CSGO is much easier than 1.6 in that at least I can get a pretty average ratio with the former while when I play 1.6 I get stomped mercilessly

>video game
>discipline
Get a load of this faggot thinking he's good at something.

the arena fps thread is a fucking shitshow.
no wonder they make these threads as consolation.

>CSGO doesn't even try
Well that's the crux of it, it's not trying to be realistic. You may as well complain that Street Fighter doesn't prepare you for MMA

Yeah user don't you know you need to EARN the fun on the game you paid for on the computer you paid for, and practice consistently to master the ass-backwards gunplay?

>cheaters in every matches
csgostats.gg/player/76561198361012263#/matches

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Street fighter has carricatures of humans. CSGO has "M4A1", "AWP", etc. No excuse.

I always just tap fired on CSGO. I used to do recoil control in CS:S (only played 1.6 after it's hey day) but cs:go you're rewarded so much more for just taking accurate shots. Bothering with spray is just dumb, unless they're on the opposite side of a wall and you're just guessing/praying.

If you actually play the free version you do get cheaters every match, you have to get the 15 buck premium thing or else you're fucked.

You're a retard.

>you have to get the 15 buck premium thing or else you're fucked
Actually, even then you're still fucked.

It's still more complex than people think it is.

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matches are from early 2018
the free to play version came out in december 2018
the game is infested, free to play or not

Play Arma, ez.

i said play cs 1.6

>csgo fags think this is a good game
Holy shit

The real life guns are part of the theme. Having made up weapons would be a detriment to that. It's evident within minutes of play that the guns follow their own rules within the game.

they clearly didnt even have their monitors turned on

skins

>RNG recoil
Ok retard but there are actual spray patterns, also maybe use burst fire or single shot when firing from a distance.
>autism level players with thousands of hours
it's been out for a while and it's played competitively

you got slapped in a comp match in you probably bottom fragged, your team got mad at your retarded ass and kicked you.

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Not remotely true,

sometimes that inaccuracy on the deagle works the other way and you get an insane kill but the deagle is the only gun that does that

>not quick switching to negate the fall inaccuracy of the deagle

Casuals man, when will they learn?

>Waaahhh game requires some practice and knowledge to be good at
>Waaahhh game is not realistic.
Just... Play something else then? What the fuck are you retards complaining about

I play both arma, insurgency, AND am a DMG in Csgo. But guys in the thread live on a narrow spectrum

I don't understand why it does that. It kinda defeats the whole point of the gun to me.

I played like 4 or 5 ranked matches like a month ago and I didn't see any hackers. There's always been hackers, but they're not in every game.

You're probably good to go then.

I like the older CS's and Arma a whole lot.

just wait 2.5 seconds tard. it's meant for one deags and melee range two tapping.

Siege is shit, though. CS is shit too, but just a different kind of shit.

>le enlightened centrist

I've playing during this summer around DMG level, never seen a single cheater.

They both have issues but they're both pretty good. Probably some of the better comp shooters out there currently.

In b4 someone suggest some milsim games as comp games.

I enjoyed 1.6 and Source. I will never play GO. GO Fuck yourself.

But it's the truth. The best shooter out there is SOCOM II.

check my meme

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counter-strike is so boring! its the golf of FPS

You’re lying. Simple as that.

Non premium matchmaking might as well be called hvh

Indeed, that's why I vote to replace them with fictive ones. Having an AKM one headshot someone but not an M4A1 is just an insult.

A fucking console shooter. The IQ dropped in this thread

as much as i like siege it's complete trash right now. sound propagation is thoroughly fucked, gamebreaking bugs are at an all time high, and rolling out changes and fixes has slowed to a crawl. it's just nothing but frustration when playing right now and ubisoft doesn't seem to give a shit.

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I'm playing prime matchmaking only.

>platform immediately dictates quality
Yes, the IQ in this thread has dropped, just as you posted, zoomer.

>Squad
>consoles

>mad that he got his shit pushed in by people who actually took the time to get good at game
>mad that the guns recoil...like they do in real life
>probably tried spraying with an ak from distance
>mad that players like the game and spend time in it

Its popular because it is the purest form of skill on skill without any fluff that this industry has. You dont have abilities, you don't have ults. You can all buy the same guns minus some extremely minor and borderline pointless distinctions. Really, the only advantage you can have is having more skill, which probably equates to more time.

I only have 300 hours in the game and I do really well in ranked so thousands of hours doesnt really matter. Get better.

Oh then ya cheating is fairly uncommon. I have been legit spin botted in premium once in my life. My dumb friends I play with call hacker every game because they got peeked and killed instantly. Lots of dummies call hacks everytime they died

2020 and it's the first time you've played csgo? that game is like 7 years old by now are you sure you are over the age of 18?

>plays a console shooter unironically
>calls others zoomers
The retardation is pungent

Last time I played CS it was CSS in 2010
how is CSGO`? how does it compare to CSS?

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An insult to who? Why do you care? The game doesn't tarnish the reputation of the guns. I'd be willing to bet the majority of players don't have any interest in guns irl, they're not going to NRA meetups and telling everyone that a AKs are better than everything and AUGs are for noobs.

I've seen hackers in casual mode few times but they were kicked really quickly. Those were probably fresh non-prime accounts.

>play CS:GO
>aim in actual shooters gets worse

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Premium is 15 bucks, non premium is literally 50% hackers minimum.

A big portion of Yea Forums hates CS, largely because a lot of them are trash at the game and hate that its been so popular for so long.

Way less custom servers, more people playing competitive match making. Also paying 15 bucks for the premium mode is mandatory.

>it is the purest form of skill
Now I know this guy is just shit posting but holy fuck that was funny.

Siege blows CS out of the fucking water and has added so much depth to the genre with environmental destruction and gadgets.

>gamebreaking bugs are at an all time high
Like what?
>sound propagation is thoroughly fucked
I'll give you this, the sound system is easily siege's biggest flaw.

I like siege's actual shooting and gameplay a lot more, but the sheer mass of downtime is lethal. Spending 80% of my playtime essentially AFK always ends up breaking me at low Plat

>Also paying 15 bucks for the premium mode is mandatory.
you can just level up to 21 to get prime but will take a couple of weeks and even then you shouldnt be playing comp unless you dont care about ranks

>A big portion of Yea Forums hates CS, largely because a lot of them are trash at the game and hate that its been so popular for so long.
Basically. If they are used to sprinting around like a fucking retard and dolphin diving and spraying people in call of duty or apex or whatever it isnt going to translate, at all. I had a friend who plays fortnite try out CSGO and his head was fucking spinning he had no clue what was going on.

You apparently stopped reading or you purposefully didnt include the rest of the quote because youre a retarded person. I said its the purest form of skill on skill, as in there isnt much fluff to help level out skill gaps. Thats why when people are bad at CS they are really bad. They will finish a ranked game with maybe 2 kills after almost 30 rounds. Its not Call of Duty, you simply wont slide by with spraying like an idiot.

>Spending 80% of my playtime essentially AFK always ends up breaking me at low Plat
What are you talking about? The meta is so fast paced right now. You're pretty much guaranteed to be fending off attackers within the first 30s as they try to get in the building. Deep roaming and turtling on site stopped being the meta ages ago. It's only boring if you die early to your own mistakes.

I've played a fair share of siege, it having the league of legends kind of unlock where you have to grind or pay more money to play the fun ops is a pain though.

Peekers advantage is also ridiculous in siege, if you know where someone is you can just rush in and kill them before they even see you even though they're holding the angle you're passing through, especially if the attacker plays ash. CS is a lot better about this.

>Siege blows CS out of the fucking water
>I like siege's actual shooting

Found the people who dont like to have to compensate for recoil. I play siege as well from time to time and its good in its own way but its really fucking easy. Every gun is a god damn laser beam. You can just hold down click and hope for the best. Basically Call of Duty but slightly more punishing and with a nicer paint job. The abilities are just fluff that get in the way of the actual combat.

> level up to 21 to get prime but will take a couple of weeks
Way more than that, experience bonus is weekly and depletes very quickly, after 8 hours per week maybe.

that's unironically what puts CSGO apart from a lot of other "esports" games. It is easy to get into and everyone can understand what is going on without ever having played it before because the concept is simple, but there is a lot of depth there for higher levels of play.

>rng recoil
>everyone is too good
>why is this popular
>ok maybe it isn't RNG but it's too hard for me
it's popular because some people don't suck at videogames

>suggesting even more random shit than CS
plebian

>dont have to compensate for recoil
ever played buck?

>It has realistic weapon models

AKM with a plastic mag that says "7.62x30" on it is named AK-47

high level team strats in cs are really unlike what you see in other fps games where you kinda just mindlessly run around fragging each other

Kek has this retard even played the game before?

An AK to the head is instant death if you know how to shoot.

Siege is as shit as csgo

>free body armor
>leaning
yeah no. go play a different game

>giving any money to ubisoft
get the fuck out of here faggot

>all these people still buttmad about bullet spray
no fucking shit there's bullet spray, just aim down and a little to the left when you hold the trigger down or play the right way and do 1-3 round bursts so you're more accurate you fucking tards. RNG bullet spray is not a valid argument when you shouldn't be spraying in the first place, and even THEN, it largely follows the same exact patterns respective to each gun, with only marginal room for discrepancy, which by the way still isn't even CLOSE to realistic

>Every gun is a god damn laser beam. You can just hold down click and hope for the best
Yep that's all you have to do, no recoil control whatsoever. You just spray and pray. If only we had recoil patterns like CS because memorizing those is way more fun than blowing open walls for new angles or coming up with new ways to use gadgets.

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If you get droned out and don't move that's on you.

>droned out
that's not how ash mains play.

it's how good ash mains play. blind ash rushes stop working past silver.

Even OG insurgency isn't dead

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To anyone who knows those guns in real life. It's simple, I see M4A1, I expect M4A1.

>blind ash rushes stop working past silver.
Literally go to any diamond streamers twitch and hear them talk about braindead ash play, or watch them play. or git gud and get up there yourself. This is especially potent if the ash is playing with high ping.

There isn't a system in place to account for the delay like there is in counterstrike. In CSGO, reaction time when holding an angle is a skill, in siege it's just about holding an aggressive angle so they can't lean peek you.

Are you on of those gn1 fags that think cause they can score positive against silvers they should just be able to advance past shitter tier? Don't join comp unless you know the strats for that map. You are just ruining 9 other players fun. Dont join even if your friend asks you to join cause you will be dead weight. I fucking hate tag along shitters more than anything.

AK-47 is a common misnomer. Plus, they could literally be carrying AK-47 stolen from a museum.

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youtube.com/watch?v=GexxPKwZS5Q

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>if I post that it's rng sixteen times a day then it must be true
Guaranteed quakefag

counter-strike sucks and the fake quakefags in these threads are falseflagging retards

you're clearly missing your shots or have a bad spray control, git gud

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>Literally go to any diamond streamers twitch and hear them talk about braindead ash play
And they have their friends droning them in and making callouts for them.

>but there is a lot of depth there for higher levels of play.
No, not really.

>I don't know anyone who plays it = dead game
Csfags truly are retarded zoomers

There definitely is, that's why it's stuck around for over 20 years. It's not just run in and shoot.

Insurgency is good but Squad is trash all around, seriously if you are saying CSGO is autism incarnated then squad is for neets all around, you literally need to have a full coordinated 40 player team to have a good "enjoyable" game, free weekends show how bad the game actually is and unintuive, feels good knowing squad are just shitters who can't get into good performance ARMA or DayZ with gun mods

It's mechanically difficult, but the game isn't that "deep" do to say because of how simple and straightforward it is.

it has one of the highest skill cellings ever you moron, even if you reach global elite(highest mm rank) you are still considered avergae to s+ esea players or lvl. 10 faceit players

>Valve did it to try and balance the guns but it's a shit system.
Bullshit. They did it to make the game "more random" quite literally.
Same reason why pistol ADAD spam exists.
Same reason why all pistols are OP.
It's all geared towards competitive play to make those ESL matches MOAR EXCITING.

If all guns handle like shit to the point when quad feeds are extremely rare then these quad feeds are much more exciting for the audience innit?

Reminder that quake 3/live never had rng and as a result it was never as popular as cs 1.6

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mechanical depth is depth, there is more to the game than what it seems at a glance. Set ups and tactics as well as mechanics, knowing how to take a site etc.

Also, CSGO is just a game, people sell themselves through it, i think it's shit, and its my opinion and fuck you i don't like the game, it's laughable that people think csgo got famous through mechanical depth, it's just a glorified casino money maker for twitch and ecelebs, reason it got out of mainstream once pubg and fortnite came around and twitch got about ecelebs instead of gamers, csgo shitters got btfo hard already they can't recover

You do realize CS existed for 13 years before csgo and the lootbox shit right?

hate to break it to you but playing csgo solo means you're absolutely retarded, no matter the rank you got.
I'd rather take a promising level 6 that i know in real life, instead of an autistic nerd without friends who just plays cs all day but has lvl 10 on faceit.

t. retarded noob who can't rank up without friends boosting him

casuals

its the new trader faggot game. the gunplay is so fucking bad. they said "cs 1.6 and css gunplay was too good, skilled players were too strong, how do we fix that" and thats what they did.

jeez back to yearly cods with noobs

CS is great compared to csgo, also DOD is better than DODS

>have 5000+ hours played in cs 1.6 and css
>CS:GO hours played: 210
I dunno OP.

This

DUDE I JUST GOT AN EPIC LGBT COLORED KNIFE, LETS MAKE A YEWTOOB VIDEO ABOUT IT
If anyone here wants CS without the cancer, you can simply go back to 1.6 or 1.5

it's a team-based game if i wanted to rank up solo i'd just play call of duty

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I only play Armsrace/Demolition. I love the way CS has always played and I love the maps but I hate the buying system for some reason.

>Armsrace
My nigga

t. too retarded to work as a team with random people

i have friends :^)
random people can get tae fuck

l2p faggot

>crosshair pointed at guy face
>short range
>both of us don't move
>press fire single time
>miss somehow
>wait for recoil recover
>hit after fourth time
Yeah truly skill based game

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this literally doesnt happen

yes is does

no it doesnt

Yes, the recoil is why you're bad at video games

It did happen to me. Played custom map. 1 vs 1 arena.

Youre full of shit. The only time this has ever been the case is when valve changed player models and their update screwed up the hitbox, which was patched almost immediately. Nothing to do with the bullets moving away from where you're aiming though.

I can handle any other FPS game but CS is just so retarded and has so strange mechanics.

maybe you need to wear glasses cause it does

>>platform immediately dictates quality
>he thinks it doesn't

THE RANDOM RECOIL IS GOOD. YOU'RE JUST BAD, AHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
fuck off

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Then explain it you nigger. How exactly is this possible? Because in every other game, when you point your gun or crosshair at someone face, you hit his face.

which gun do you believe this happens with, I have the recoil workshop already loaded and I cant objectively prove youre retarded if you want

You may say that it's not that complicated when being a solo player in pubs, but once you reach realm of proper team gaming and in-game leading with strategies, then pretty much everything changes.

theres nothing to explain, your first shot goes literally exactly where your crosshair is

>Get told that CSGO is normie trash
>Try it anyway
>Find out it also takes hundreds of hours to actually be even remotely okay
I don't know what to believe. Are normies better than me at video games? I feel ashamed

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Can*

1.6 nostalgia

It really heavily depends upon the weapon and distance, but frankly most weapons feel pretty random to use. It's kind of the combination of the actual inaccuracies and player's flawed perceptions, so while most of the times the game actually works as intended sometimes it's fucked. There's also always the question of replay accuracies,

i used to think the same when I was really bad and a silver

Yet it somehow didn't. Maybe guy was a shaman or his chakra was strong and redirected bullets.

what gun were you using? where you half a map away?

have sex

what if i have herpes from having too much sex?

Stop spraying your guns like a retard

Well, I'm far beyond silver and I still think that. The amount of times I shoot at someone's head from distance with supposedly pretty accurate weapons and only hit on like 3rd or 4th bullet without moving my crosshair feels too high. Sure, it's selection bias and I'm rather convinced that most of my misses are my mistakes, but the fact that I cannot tell when I fuck up and when I am just unlucky makes me frustrated a lot. Unless I am crouching I don't really feel too confident in the bullet's accuracy.

The worst offender in that regard is really the deagle, which is part of its balance, but it's still annoying.

>"mastering" any shooter whatsoever that doesn't at least attempt realism
>The most colossal waste of time imaginable.
Nigger every realistic FPS has barely any players once it comes out and fraction of that tiny number after 3 months. Arcade FPS are infinitely more popular because gameplay mechanics focus make for a better competitive environment and higher skill ceiling than realism. No one wants to master sitting on your ass in bushes for 5 minutes and killing people who aren't even aware you exist because it doesn't provide any satisfaction and gets boring quickly.

D. Eagle. 1 vs 1 arena. I did stand like 3-4 meters away. As I said. 4 shoots. Guy didn't move. I was standing still. Didn't spray. Fired one time. Did wait for recoil to stop. Then fire second and then third time. Fourth shoot hit.

>The amount of times I shoot at someone's head from distance with supposedly pretty accurate weapons and only hit on like 3rd or 4th bullet without moving my crosshair feels too high.

That is quite literally not how cs works. Your first shot hits and by the 3rd or 4th you have to move your cursor for recoil control

alrighty gimme some time to objectively prove youre full of shit, wont be too long

cs is too grounded to be interesting to me
more into games like titanfall 2 (despite respawn's extremely poor handling of the multiplayer and balance) and ut99
the specialists players where u at

You seem to be kinda lost.

Okay, let's approach if differently then. Are all guns 100% accurate at all ranges on their first bullet while standing still?

streamable.com/xmu60

7 shots 7 headshots 100% accuracy

what the fuck are you talking about? You tried saying that if you held your crosshair on someone and fired 4 shots, the first one would miss and the 3rd or 4th one hit. That doesnt happen in cs

So it still doesn't explain what happened.

you fucking suck is what happened lmao

actually im sorry for being mean. Do you want me to teach you really quick how to shoot in cs go?

it's not random, there is a pattern.

git gud.

>That doesnt happen in cs

youtube.com/watch?v=yyvTH_6gLUo

Of course it does, what do you think reseting your recoil is? If there is any inaccuracy in the gun, then of course you can miss and then hit if you reset your recoil. I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.

>lmao you suck
I don't and you are just faggot. I know exactly what happened and this should be headshot after first shoot, especially when I was aiming at same spot and 4th shoot actually landed at his face.

Guess what, there is both a pattern and it's also random.

lol you are literally talking about an impossible mechanic, you're straight up delusional

You are delusional and a retard too

Recoil in literally every FPS is going to have elements of RNG to it. There's still a fairly easy to control pattern for the initial 12 or so shots fired from the gun in automatic spray.

yeah less than 1k players is p much dead

i mean, im the only one that posted a video that objectively shows your wrong, so

lmao and how much does cs usually have? 500k?

So it is random after all. And it's not really that easy to control at longer ranges, at least compared to 1.6. The spray transfer in general is just much worse.

and still climbing

It’s literally a pleb filter. Cod kiddies hop on and wonder why they can’t hit or kill anybody. And blame the game. If you play cs and think you can just point your crosshair and shoot you’re gonna have a rough time

>Why not put effort into a shooter that would prepare you for a real life conflict, if you ever found yourself in one?

Nigga I love ArmA 3 but you are baiting, not one is that retarded, there is no game that comes closer to the amount of stress you would feel in a real life shootout, DayZ shootouts feel stressful as fuck and they don't even come close

>So it is random after all

Not completely random, no. Stop trying to misrepresent mechanics by pretending to be retarded.

>And it's not really that easy to control at longer ranges

You're supposed to tap and burst fire at longer ranges. It's basically to test the player, to force them to understand and which ranges they can spray, which they need to burst, and how hard are they going to need to pull down to properly control their spray.

Git gud

i was actually pretty disturbed when I saw how hitboxes work in those games. LITERALLY don't have to be aiming at someone to hit them

How many of you have a 144hz monitor and how good are you?
Just wondering.

>decide to try this for a lark
>get headshot 22 times and uninstall

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i got 60 and Im above average

>Play game for the first time
>Act surprised after getting absolutely rekt
Try to learn a game for once and stop being such a baby OP. Recoil is anything but RNG, the spread is always the same as long as you're not running and gunning like a retard

esea rank a-
faceit level 9
mm global

Okay,

>it's not random, there is a pattern
Sorry for thinking it means that it's not random and that there is a pattern instead.

I am aware of different shooting techniques. It just sucks that the method of balance isn't that much about skill, but unreliability and randomness. It's not just hard to control the spray, it's hard and unreliable, but since even tapping and bursting isn't always totally accurate you sometimes might as well spray instead to increase your odds of hitting, meaning you aren't really playing with skills, but just trying to roll the dice as best as you could.

Of course it is an overexxegeration and it's not really how people interact with the game, but the fact that it works like that on some level is still disappointing.

I need to git gud

>Sorry for thinking it means that it's not random and that there is a pattern instead.

That is completely true, it's just not a 100% static pattern every time you pull the trigger. The pattern being 100% static would have 0 impact on gameplay anyways, so it's basically unimportant.

> It just sucks that the method of balance isn't that much about skill, but unreliability and randomness. It's not just hard to control the spray, it's hard and unreliable, but since even tapping and bursting isn't always totally accurate you sometimes might as well spray instead to increase your odds of hitting, meaning you aren't really playing with skills, but just trying to roll the dice as best as you could.

Nah, the SG and AUG are incredibly accurate when scoped in, plus spray control is exceedingly reliable in the hands of a decent player. If you spray at someone and they don't die it's a 95% chance it was your fault completely.

>it's a 95%
That's exactly the point. It's a shame that it's not 100% your fault and while the game works mostly fine the most frustrating part is not knowing when you're the one fucking up hard and when you're just having a bad streak of luck. It just messes with the feedback loop and I don't like it.

>It's a shame that it's not 100%

In any game that has recoil it never will be. It never will be in Siege, it never will be in Squad, it never will be in Insurgency, it isn't even in Quake.

>It just messes with the feedback loop and I don't like it.

You're probably just missing and blaming the game. I've seen anons post footage of them playing and they would clearly miss but still claim they were landing shots.

ASPECT RAIDO

>RNG recoil

Isn't CS one of the few FPS' that has fixed recoil patterns, ie. every time you fire full auto, the recoil will be the exact same?

very small variation, but more or less yeah

This game is complete trash and as an insider I can say it's only propped up by matchfixing and gambling. Also by the way even pros in tier 2+ matches are hacking.

Why can't you just use non-randomized recoil? I'm not saying you should, but to imply that it's incompatible seems weird.

And I do accept that most of the fuckups are of my own making. I just wish that I knew whether I fucked up or not, that way it's just easier to play as I'd be able to adjust easier or brush the result off. I can't always go "Yeah, that was my bad, I just need to do better/aim more accurately next time", since there just might be the odd shot where I did shoot and aim correctly and still missed.

The obvious rebuttal is that it doesn't really matter which scenario happened, since the only response still would be to try to play best/aim most accurately regardess, but that's kind of besides the point.

>Why can't you just use non-randomized recoil?

It would literally make 0 difference. No human would have the reactions to actually use this well.

It's like saying "why doesn't the game run at 10000 frames per second?".

>RNG recoil
I tought it was full of patterns, that was also the main gripe with the new BFV gunplay. but if the first shots are always more or less 100% accurate then whats the matter

Then what's the point of randomness if it doesn't make any difference? I'm not really following. I thought it was to make spraying in long ranges less viable, but apparently it makes no difference?

Yeah i'm wondering that too

The answer seems to me that it does make a difference and you're slightly misunderstanding how the game(s) work, but I wouldn't want to spoil the rare moment of someone sharing some degree of uncertainty on an anonymous imageboard.

what? i play 1024 bb. its stretched to 1600x900 then down to 720 to make this webm lol

> RNG recoil

bruh

I fucking loathe the setup bit at the start in siege with the RC cars and stuff. I don't give a shit about that. It takes too long to get into the game. and seems like worthless down time.

A lot of the pros have been suggesting making reinforcements go up faster and cutting down on the setup time. Maybe next year.

I loathe the whole getting raped by forces beyond my control aspect. At least in CSGO it's mostly about aim. In R6 the enemies seem to come from any direction and can even shoot you through walls. The aiming is piss easy and requires zero skill, which is rewarding for me as a noob but probably pretty annoying for people used to games like CS.

battlefield seems more your speed. you can hang back and snipe and contribute nothing to your team while still feeling like you are being useful.

>In R6 the enemies seem to come from any direction and can even shoot you through walls
try droning dumbass

OP BTFO

That's good to hear. I mean the people inside setting stuff up is fine, like when you are putting up reinforcements, but my god are the team with the RC cars dumb. I'd rather just that team fucking around for 30sec than anything. I mean there is no point in those cars, and the low ground level eye-sight makes me hate them. People are typically going to be set up in the most optimal places and reinforce typically the same few areas for optimal play, so after you get good at the game that info comes to you naturally. You get very little to no info from driving those shitty cars around.

SWAT 4 PvP is still active to this day, just pick it up

>I mean there is no point in those cars, and the low ground level eye-sight makes me hate them
Coordinated teams set their drones up in positions that will be useful later in the round. For example on bank you can get your drone up to one of the chandeliers in the lobby covering the entire southern portion of the map. That is incredibly powerful information and that's just one drone. Imagine having all five of your drones setup in similar spots across the map and roamers will never be able to sneak up on you.