The absolute state of street fighter

My penis inside Poison's cunny

Imagine if punching Ryu's fireballs hurt Ryu
Capcom really fucked up this time

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I'm not even an sfvfag but this is how pretty much every long ranged character works in fighting games since always (You) casual brainlet

dhalsim or vega's claws work the same way since SF2, this is how fast, long ranged normals can exist while being balanced

>don't wanna spend real money but wants to play SF

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You mean bussy

>What's the problem with taking damage from a punch when your opponent is 10 miles away from you

>wanting to play SFV

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brainlet thread

let's all go back to SF4

Menat is the exception, not the rule, guys.

I tried to look for a dick in the slowdown

>spent my FM on E. Honda
Trash ass character. Don't even bother, Yea Forumsros. At least Lucia is fun.

I like playing SFV because I like the characters (except Falke and Lucia) and their movesets satisfy me. The only things I hate about SFV is how incomplete it is and Crush Counters is a stupid unbalanced mechanic.

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>SFV
>Aimed to pros
My fucking sides

>spats under the dress
LMAO FUCKING CRAPCUM

Get out tourist

i don't have the money and i don't fall for the f2p bullshit since i know it's capcom
the only reasons i wanted to play is friends and some characters that i like

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imagine being a nigger and playing fighting games

why don't they make vega's claw mechanic generic and have all those ranged weapon attack being able to be broken over time?

this is how fighting games work you absolute retards

what is with non-fighting game players constantly trying to shittalk SFV so desperately? Why would you do that to any game in a genre you don't give much shit about, and why do it specifically to this game?

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have sex

>wanting to see Poison's throbbing 12" cock flopping around the entire match

>expecting Yea Forums to know how fighting games work
The fightans that this board praises are the ones that no one here plays, it's either just a baseless circlejerk or baseless shitposting. I remember destroying the weebs at the old /asg/ and dustloop forums for talking shit. No one on Yea Forums nowadays even wants to play.

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ok this just proves that Yea Forums does not play fighting games

>how pretty much every long ranged character works in fighting games
only in shit fighting games
in samsho dudes with long weapons don't get hurt if an attack hits only their weapons

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>this is how fighting games work you absolute retards
shit ones maybe. Any game centered around weapon fights don't have that garbage.

>this is how fighting games work you absolute retards
My post specifically said that I knew they did it to balance it
it's still fucking retarded, and good fighting games don't do this sort of shit.

Sounds pretty comfy, user.

Does this happen to Whip in KoF?

TRANNIES BTFO

there are no good fighting games

>footsies bad
>detached hitbox half-screen normals good

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Is poison still a tranny?

Its because it is a 2d game as well.This isn't a simulation game.

This is literally how all fighting games work. If you couldnt punish whiffed normals then nobody would play any other character but the one with longest reach. They learned the hard way from the fuckup called MENAT if you cant punish the ball.

Ryu can not send 2nd fireball until 1st fireball exit the screen. Fireballs are so slow even bronze casuals can learn how to jump over them and punish it. That whip is normal fast attack without any build up, its effectively instant.

Dunno, maybe they dont have game designer as clever as you. Or they are lazy and dont want to implement twice as many moves (punch with whip equipped vs punch without whip).

Because in fighters with weapons EVERYBODY has a weapon. While in street fighter almost everybody is barehanded.

She never stopped being one

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whip never extends her whip much in kof so probably not, but I'd like for someone to confirm.

>it's still fucking retarded, and good fighting games don't do this sort of shit.
what "good fighting games" are you talking about?
Fucking every good fighting game with fast and long ranged normals do this, because this is the ONLY way to not make them broken

also why is it supposed to be retarded? Because of muh realism? With that logic you should get rid of 90% of the fighting game mechanics because none of them work on realism

>literally taking damage from imaginary reasons
more than ever

>all fighting games work
so you either never played samsho or don't consider it a fighting game
which is it?

Bad excuse. Games should always strive for realism. It adds immersion.

This is how trash ass fighting games work. I don't care about your blaz blue anime bullshit that taught you how to suck a dick this is terrible design.

You're pretending that other games havent managed this concept, and that poison wasn't already in a SF game with this problem l

>she never stopped being one
She was never one, that was just censorship shenanigans. Capcom won't ever say a shit about it because they know that keeping you degenerates fantasizing is good for their business.

didn't play Samsho, but KoF works exactly like in the op, just like blazblue, and just like how all sf games work, not just sfv

if you seriously think Samsho is the pinnacle of the genre just because of it's minuscule extra realism for not having a gameplaywise perfectly fine balance mechanic then you are just retarded

I say get a job.

Are you dyslexic?

>KoF works exactly like in the op
not him, but I don't remember being able to hurt billy cane by hitting his cane

>it's a "people who don't play fighting games still think SFV is bad" episode

Keep your tranny fantasies to yourself

Are you hitting the right cane?

People shittalk sf5 because it's the easiest target in the world, the launch was a disaster and of course it's a crapcom game. Usually the npc shittalking it doesn't even know why he hates it, he just wants to fit in. Not that sf5 doesn't have flaws, it has a lot just like any fighting game does. But the intense hostility towards the game is a bit exaggerated just like MvCI. MvCI has a garbage roster and garbage graphics, but the gameplay was actually fine. sf5's DLC content shows how fucking greedy crapcom is and it's severely unbalanced each season. sf5 may be inferior to the predecessors, but it's still a solid fighting game and doesn't have anything inherently retarded random shit like Danger Time in Xrd (yeah no one ever brings that up because no one on this board plays that fucking game) or something like tripping. CCs are cancer, but most of the characters that dominated the meta didn't even really rely on them as their main tool. Characters with the best frame data were the dominant ones. Tekken 7 was also dumbed down but no one ever brings that up, again because no one here actually knows anything about fighting games and what the differences are with each game. BBTag is a complete butchery of BB's gameplay and the biggest dumbing down a series has ever experienced. But there's not as much outrage with other games because they're not easy targets, weebs and contrarians make up most of the board. sf5 has issues but people often don't even know what they are and are just shittalking because they don't play fighting games.

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Because I think most of the Cane moves are Specials?

The king of fighters version of ryu has fireballs that don't leave his hand, its not an attack with a punishable recovery and does the same thing these whip attacks do.

I have way more examples of long range normals and specail moves but I'm not more of my time with someone who thinks SFV hate is unrightfully earned. Nobosy is going to miss this game

>obey, that's how papa corpor told us to like it. You don't want those capcom professional players (paid by capcom) to laugh at you right?

boxdox-bb.dantarion.com/#/viewer/bbcf/jn/NmlAtkAIR5C/22
sounds like you're lying to me, coon

>You're pretending that other games havent managed this concept
the fuck are you even talking about

pretty much all fighting games since always, to this day use this method if they have few frames half screen normals
stop pretending that you know shit about fighting games just because you saw some games with 12f+ long range normals that didn't had hurtbox, and you thought it was the same thing

>the launch was a disaster
I still don't get this meme. Literally who gives a fuck about a shitty cinematic story mode in a fighting game? Where do all of these friendless losers that play fighting games for the single player come from?

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>confirmed canon she has a dick
>fantasies
cope more

What is the purpose in reinventing the wheel for every character? Why would they remake Juri and Poison from the ground up? What's the point? Why would I be excited to see someone return if they play nothing like before? Why are so many "returning" characters in SFV almost completely different? Why do they all play like each other now?

But is Poison good though

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based

SF is a downgrade since Alpha, idiot user, and people ragged on BBTAG constantly, try actually going to threads, retard.

For Juri I guess they didn’t want her to have negative edge for her specials.
Poison redesign baffles me cause in SF4 she was perfect in terms of playstyle

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to make it e-sports friendly, haha

It does in XIV, but it doesn't in 02UM. Not surprising since a detached hitbox in XIV would be bullshit OP.

Still better than kusoge like tekken

In samsho everybody has a sword. And it isnt a coincidence that in top8 half the cast was a character with long as fuck sword + extremly versatile moveset.

If you want to have a REALLY hard time in that game, try to main the barely eagle loli: the character with smallest reach and smallest damage. You will find very soon how fucking unfair it is when you cant punish whiffed normals because their sword is 4 times longer than yours.

Kof is also very meh series and it shows everywhere. And your kof char still has to do input motion to do that move and it has many recovery frames.

150k people watched sfv evo this year. But only 2k people play this game. That leaves you with 148k potentional players who are sad when you fighting game has no single player content. Its easy math.

Because game developers love designing new things instead of copy pasting old stuff. They want to innovate, evolve, move their passion forward (or sideways or backwards by mistake).

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add MK11 and Smash to the hate list

Why was Guile okay then? Why is he the only projectile spammer allowed to still be able to do similar things? Ibuki's rework was baffling too. I also wonder why the SFV devs have such a huge hatred toward rekkas. There literally isn't a single rekka in the game that isn't tied to V-triggers. Karin's just a generic gorilla in SFV too.

Is this your first fighting game?

not fighting games

It's smash swordies thinking their spammable disjoint Aerials should always be safe no matter what. It's retarded.

there's the hate again, see? those are perfect for the image
>I WANT TO HATE ON THEM GRRRR

>KoF is also very meh series and it shows everywhere.
>It's meh because it proves me wrong
Good rebuttal retard.

where to learn sfv? evo inspired me. im gonna be the next daigo, graham wolfe bonchan etc

>"SFV doesn't have flaws"
>"SFV may be inferior to its predecessors"
>Nostalgia dick up his ass so hard he thinks MvCI had any worthwhile quantities

Honestly I hate cavemonsters like you, have you ever been a part of a Fight game community, with you know people who get out of their rooms? Guilty Gear's danger time mechanics is the best feature within the game, the kind of people who think otherwise already find guilty gear too intense to play consistantly. It solves a world of character balance issues, as a Slayer player I can actually actively strive towards it while taking other bets in combat and turn a match around against Sin in no time.

Not to fucking mention everyones attention hits its limits once it goes out. If you really hate danger time, play a good friend consistantly for a few hours, you'll start craving it

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>They will never fix Ken's face until SF6

>>"SFV doesn't have flaws"
Nigga can you read?

Literally, nobody can tell me nor show me SFV is better than IV. NOBODY!

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Arcade edition is best value, im a moron who bought at launch, never buy fighting games at launch.

t. 09er

you are responding to a fighting game player. a nigger.

no, he can't.

>doesnt understand SFV was made around a universal system of simple frame/range/damage that allow the dev team to extremely easily character control balance

Why the fuck do you think they removed jumping away tatsu?

>>"SFV doesn't have flaws"
>post says "NOT that SFV doesn't have flaws"
You make yourself looks stupid in your first line and forfeit your entire post.
God you're fucking stupid.

uh oh

ohoho

I love her

Dhalsim at least logically makes sense, the entire issue would be resolved if Poison swung around her 30 meter long cock

Imagine seething this much because you're bad at video games

He didn't understand what I was talking about so he shit all over himself and made statements that where just blatantly false, fucks sakes god forbid we talk about the EX versions of that move that removes its start up time

>hit a whip
>the person using the whip gets hurt, not the one striking a weapon in motion
>"makes sense"

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Nobody gives a flying fuck about logic. Logically Gief should just crack your skull like an egg when he punches you, but that doesn't happen because it's not balanced

imagine if you could punch scorpions chain out of the air

The guy was probably talking balance-wise.
Thank god fighting games don't all go the "realistic" route. Shit would be so unbalanced and boring.

stop misusing that term loser

That is completely normal and reasonable. Billy Kane in Fatal Fury/KoF has exactly the same thing.

youtube.com/watch?v=VQ7UJBRp6F0

The punch reverberates through the whip into Poisons own hand

>circle random moonrunes
>add "newhalf" next to it
#wow #whoa

You're autistic
her fucking designer said he designed her as a girl and that she is one and no i don't care about the amerimutt version of the game
Filthy anglocunt

you are not White

>The guy was probably talking balance-wise.

You generally balance that in more sensible means, like startup, recovery, etc.

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That's a yikes from me dawg

what a dogshit genre

>He has never air punched someone
Lmao

So you're saying white people can't be good at video games?
Imagine being this cucked

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you are neither white nor good at anything

Bruce Lee's ghost, you fucking loser, you better fuck off we're talking about video games

>he has never facestabbed someone in tf2
Lmao

in kof billy's staff works the same way. Whip probably too but I don't want to look up hitboxes

>loses argument
>shit on the entire genre as a copout

Your opinion has no relevance now or ever.

MIST FINER

UNIST isn't like this, is it?

Honestly, if it did he wouldn't be that much worse than he already is. I don't think there's ever been a SF game where Ryu has been this shit.

Scorpion's chain became a normal?

Does that upset you?

Watch every episode of Excellent Adventures of Gootecks and Mike Ross, and then get depressed about there never being new episodes ever.

Merkava is like that for sure, duuno about others.

Slightly but I've mostly resigned myself to this hell.

>being this insecure about masturbating to a tranny

>you shoot someone in the head
>their head hits the bullet
>you take damage

not a huge fighting game player, but I really enjoyed SF4, everything about it: the music, the voice actors, the combos, the pro matches.

how could they mess up so badly? the fundament was there and it was perfect.

So you continue to play SF5?

Just make the whip shorter and have more recovery frames you massive bootlicker

>coping this hard
She's not a tranny and never will be one

does poison really wear fucking spats instead of panties?
this retarded censorship is going to far

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SF4 is mediocre compared to fighting games that predate it. The pace, the feel...it’s all so unsatisfying.

SF5 corrected some aspects of it but its own design suffers from issues too (the biggest one I can think of being what I call “character linearity”, limiting the playstyle variety of every character and forcing players to stick to a very specific strategy to succeed with little room for exploration; I chalk it up to a consequence of their desire to remove some of SF4’s bullshit like 1F links).

Yeah. I play a lot of fighting games even though I'm not particularly good at any of them.

Ricki or Poison

Because they want you to play it since you’re an non fighting game player.

Never let dirty gaijin in charge of your multi million dollar japanese franchise

>But only 2k people play this game
Um, no

seething

poison is so hot

>There is not just a few, but all the FGC in this thread defending this because “Muh Balance”
>When there are several ways to balance this move without making the game a glitchy mess
Why are fighting game fans so insecure?

youtu.be/3Lj-9npanOI
Sorry my dude.

This thread is the perfect example of “get proven wrong in a debate but just go down swinging instead of bowing out”.

Fucking sad.

Only Smashfags think massive hitboxes on normals shouldn't be whiff punishable

Yeah kinda dumb but imagine sticking your dick up the leg of Poison's spats and rubbing it up against her balls until you both cum.

Yes.

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how did capcom get away with ripping off Whip?

youtube.com/watch?v=msihD8N6lX0

wiki.shoryuken.com/Whip_02

Both have examples of moves being balanced via hurtboxes in this exact way.
Did you have evidence of the contrary? As you said that balancing by other means is the norm. Or are you talking out of your ass?

>nu-Yea Forums doesn't know how fighting games work
More news at 11.

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You mean make it completely worthless for its intended purpose?

>you lived to see the studios who made fucking Silent Hill Homecoming and a port studio to make a better fightan game than Capcom

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Are you the fucking stalker she has? That dude is fucking insanely obsessed.

tfw roxy is still not over poisons transition because she was in love w her pre op

I pity you anisoy. You say SFV is dead but think a new GG will have an active playerbase for more than two weeks and thats being generous. Enjoy having to use discord to ask trannies for matches in your DOA kusoge.

Jesus Christ, just give the move more recovery frames, make the attack shorter, or let the whip be grabbed.
There are more ways to balance a game than to have it be a glitchy game

I’m surprised they turned such a gimmicky fighting game like KI into something that can be played seriously.

By the same way SNK got away ripping off Poison with Whip.

>glitchy
How is it glitchy if it works as intended?
Also
>It's not ok to whiff punish with normals but it is ok to whiff punish with grabs
N-nani?

Poison debuted in a beat ‘em up, not a fighting game.

That said what exactly can you do with a whip besides whip someone? There isn’t that much flexibility.

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KI was trash under Double Helix, it didn't get good until Iron Galaxy took over.

It is not. V-trigger is a design flaw by itself, it locks all the good shit behind it, the game is too barebones without it, and even if you modded it for V-trigger abilities to be always on it would just become extra broke.

Hope they keep that shit away from 6.

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It’s a lot better than you’d have given credit to a KI game. Prior to that KI was a curiosity but hardly a serious fighting game.

Without SF2 there would be no FF, AOF, SS, or KOF.

It intuitively doesn't make sense that hitting a whip hurts the one wielding the whip, there is absolutely no congruence between expectation and reality on a first glance, it's non-transparent gamedesign that forces players to look at frame data and hit/hurtboxes that isn't even provided by Capcom, but by some shmuck on an unofficial website. It's poorly planned when Sim has none of those issues because it makes sense that punching his arms and legs would hurt him. It's bad design for a good reason, but it's still bad design.

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All fighting games have hurtboxes on weapons and always have had, it's for balance purposes.
You can try, say, booting up any KOF, picking Ryo agains Billy, have Ryo do the multiple punches special move and have Billy stick this staff in it. He gets sucked in the trash compactor.
When they don't like have hurtboxes it's an exception, not the rule, like Menat.

>it's safe to say SFV is definitely dead
You've been saying this for three years now.

You don't play fighting games, you're not part of the community and your opinion is trash and not welcome.

Dilate.

>Poison debuted in a beat ‘em up, not a fighting game.
That doesn't stop Byakuya from UNIEL being a literal palette swap of Yu from Persona 4.

>Poison was a character before KOF 99
>her new game came out before KOF 99 and had her with a whip

>can’t argue, resorts to ad hominem

Fighting game players don’t realize how fucked up their genre is, they just suck cock and beg for more of the same.

it absolutely is, I play Phonon and i can tell you her whip definitely has hurtboxes, although they don't usually go all the way to the tip of the attack. her 3C hurtbox extends pretty far forward though, it's how Yuzu's bullshit counter works so well against Phonon.

Smashing someones sword that they holding makes way more sense that it would stun them. Getting hurt by someone slapping the end of your whip is ridiculous

based retard

I want Hakan's wife to Ultra 2 me

I remember when SF4 introduced extra outfits that had different hurtboxes for some reason.

Like isn’t the character’s collison supposed to be defined by their body? Why are you changing that data for a new outfit?

this is basically how every genre fan behaves user, they think what they like is a sort of dogma that should be followed at all times or else they REEEE
they want more of the same so they can keep their secret club, but they don't realize that there are no more secret clubs now, gaming is mainstream and for normies :)

i dont remember that

>what is with non-fighting game players constantly trying to shittalk SFV so desperately?

it's not SFV, it's capcom fighters in general that people love to hate more than they love to love

There is this popular misbelief, especially among casuals, that Capcom is some oppressive overlord on the fighting game genre that takes away the spotlight and success of other fighters. Basically, Capcom fighters get 10 times more shittalking for all of their flaws than what other fighting games would get for similar flaws.

MvCI was probably an even better example than sfv. Even though infinite was a letdown that deserved backlash, the absolute lynching the game got went way overboard, and most likely killed the series for good. People clearly saw MvC as some huge, mainstream AAA series with near infinite resources when in reality no MvC game ever went beyond selling 2 million copies (MKX in comparison sold over 12 millions), and MvC3 might have been a flop for Capcom considering it's sales to it's good production values and marketing (which might have been a reason why MvCI was clearly a much lower budget game).

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>The people actually playing the games don't know shit!
>I, someone who doesn't play the games know much better and the games should cater to my wishes
The state of some people.

because some outfits where visibly larger, so the hitbox should accommodate to prevent confusions

That never happened. What the fuck are you talking about?

> but they don't realize that there are no more secret clubs now, gaming is mainstream and for normies :)
Sure, the FGC welcomes people of all races, nationalities and ideologies. But you're still bad and an idiot for complaining about whiff punishing. Get good or get out. :)

retard

>It's bad design for a good reason, but it's still bad design
Rubbish. It's good for gameplay so it's good design. Intuition is for idiots who think actually learning move properties is beneath them

Poison first had a whip in Revenge which came out the same month as '99 but Whip was actually originally a cut character from '96.

>Any game centered around weapon fights don't have that garbage.
Fucking Granblue Versus has the weapon hurtbox mechanic and that game is meant for beginners to fighting games. Every character in that game can get hit further away than normal if they have their weapon out in front of them. You are fucking retarded

meant to quote this scrub

not him though, I don't mind about so minute mechanics like whiff punishing, I don't care enough about the genre to get as good as to have to mind those sort of things, and neither should most of the people coming here
but hey, lets all act like game pros here because we invested so much time already it must count for something, right?

This. So many casuals play Smash which has 100% free disjoints, so when a real fighting game attaches hurtboxes to it their brains fry.

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>grabbing whip good
>punching whip bad
Autistic. Do you even play SFV? Or fighting games that aren't dbfz?

>fireballs are normals

ok dude

Yes it is, but its just generally harder to do because of frame data. But if you can match the right jab to one of Merkava's or Phonon's normals, you can absolutely hit them.

So is she fun? I have 80k FM right now and don't want to waste it like I did woth Sakura.

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the mental Olympics you are going through to justify lazy character design are magnificent user

LIGHT IT UP

>I don't mind
>I don't care
>and neither should most of the people coming here
>HOWEVER I DEMAND YOU EXPLAIN TO ME RIGHT THIS INSTANT WHY THIS GAME ISN'T CATERING TO ME AND MY DEMANDS. RIGHT NOW.
Based retard.

it's not that unusual

I cannot believe this thread is real. I knew people here were ignorant to fighting games but this is just sad

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POWAAAH TO THE ASS
LIGHT IT UP

faggots wanted an ezwin slut and got BTFO'd
these fucks would be bitching if she could just zone them into infinity with no punishment for missing too btw

Why do new street fighters look like everything is made out of gross lumpy clay? Will the games every not ugly as fuck again?

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>just make the move slower dude
FFS, stop pretending that you understand how fighting games work

SF is not like Soul Calibur. Characters in SF have fucking quick moves in comparison. Let's say if Poison's basic whip attack is 6 frames, Ivy's similar whip attack would be 24 frames. These slow attacks work in SC because the whole game is designed around slow attacks like that, but in SF even adding another 1-2 frames recovery on a move might completely ruin it's poking/zoning potential.

The sooner you learn that you can't intuitively learn a fighting game and it requires learning on your part, the sooner you'll get it

he hits her with his BBC

Lol

Only ASW can make 3D graphics look like sprites.

I played SF2 and 3 as well as Tekken 1-3 and some other popular ones, I thought SF4 was done exceptionally well and from waht I gathered from the pros it had good mechanics as well.
To me it was also very satisfying to watch.
I guess I am not good enough to see the nuances that might make it worse.

you seem upset user, I never implied that I wanted SF to cater to me, are you even reading the conversation or just waiting to reply and attack? you sure are a basic idiot if you think people here are not acting like they can play at a level where this sort of thing matter

>Whiny 3S nigger complaining about MUH SPRITES
kys subhuman

Not to say that the whip moves are probably already balanced so that you have time to jump-in, and possibly punish, if used too liberally. So making the move even slower as the other user suggested would make the move and the character by extension unuseable.

SF character "design"
>Guy in gi
>Guy in red gi
>Girl in swimsuit
>Girl in two piece swimsuit
>Guy in blue gi
>Guy in shorts
>Big guy in biker gear
>Big guy in mad max gear
How do people get excited for this shit?

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haha that would probably be rather unpleasant hahaha

>game panders two waifufags instead of focusing on gameplay
>blunder of the generation

Who'd have thought?

game design mechanics should allow you to intuitively learn a new game
I understand that pro level requires pro understanding of the minute mechanics like that one, but there are no pros here

pretty much every other fighting game ripped something from street fighter at some point so its fair

For a lot of people it worked, I can’t fault that. But when I play it I struggle big time because it feels like a very offense-stifiled experience. Playing up close, jumping, playing footsies. There’s a very unnatural sense to everything that prevented me from ever getting better at the neutral. I can’t get my head around it.

I'm almost impressed that they managed to make the game uglier than SF4

Kek

>barely any modders in SFV
>the ones that do make good costumes all hide them behind paywalls
>people actually support this so it just encourages everyone to do it
Why are people like this?

>FGC waste all their time talking about balance and shit no sane person cares
>Smash "Party Game" Ultimate destroys them with 80 characters,single player content and actual sales.

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>non-fighting game players
except that SFV and MvCI are disliked even by the FGC top players

Yea Forums has always been bad at videogames, but ever since reddit and the tranny discords set up camp here, they are also now actively ignorant about videogames. Bad, dumb, and ignorant are not a great a combination when it comes to fighting games.

>tfw I want either Lucia or Poison but only have enough FM for one
Is Lucia rushdown heavy?

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Uh, he's actually reversing causality with his fists.

It's like you people don't even watch anime or something, yeesh.

You are seeing it, she is literally using her dick as a whip. That's why it hurt.

How to make 100k FM easily?? I need Poison

Explain.

>Girl in swimsuit
>Girl in two piece swimsuit
>Guy in blue gi
>Guy in shorts
>Big guy in biker gear
>Big guy in mad max gear
who are these characters supposed to be? (assuming you refer to their original designs not to alternative costumes)

yeah this everyone should be overdesigned like GG

>I'm not even an sfvfag
of course not

Go try that at an MMA forum, see if they give a shit what someone who claims not to care about MMA has to say. Or a TCG board. Or your favorite local political party. Or your parents.

Based retard.

>>FGC waste all their time talking about balance and shit no sane person cares

yes, that is what happens when a game has some kind of depth

Nope. Most pro players are fine with it and those who are disgruntled have never been top tier players in the scene anyway. Name 1 powerhouse from sfiv days who dropped it.

That is nothing but a pipe dream in multiplayer games. You have more of a point in single player games where everything is fixed, but in mulitplayer you need to do your homework if you want an advantage

you literally don't have to be to see that OP is making shit up
if you imply that anyone is some shill for pointing out when someone is objectively misleading others then you are the shill

why is she so cute

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Cammy
Laura
Akuma
Sagat
Birdy
Abigail

Hes just making shit up.
I don't know if he realized that having easily recognizable characters that you can describe with three words is actually good design.

lookws like a manface tranny

hrt does wonders

None did because it's their job and there's never been more money to be made with a fighting game than with SFV.

Here's a better question, how many pro players actually claim to enjoy playing it more than USF4?

why do you guys see trannies literally everywhere

My biggest complaint with SFV is that the graphics and art-style (character's faces, limbs, hair, & stage-backgrounds) are so ugly. I would be more likely to turn a blind-eye to SFV's game-play shortcomings if the game was a bit more aesthetic.

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>job meme
Dumbass, since when does that prevent someone from bad mouthing their "job" or the work they have to do. Post 1. Just 1 "pro" who was good at sfiv and hates SFV from any country. I'll wait. You're a memer with no original thoughts.

>Laura
>Sagat
>Birdy
>Abigail
these are just plain wrong

>Cammy
>Akuma
I'm pretty sure their designs have more notable features going on than just a piece of clothing

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shes trans user

>avoiding the question
Sad. I answered your question, now answer mine you little bitch.
>since when does that prevent someone from bad mouthing their "job" or the work they have to do
Since ever when you are a member of the marketing team which is what every single sponsored FGC pro is, retard.

I wish there was some consistency to it at least. Some characters look really nice like Menat, but some look horrible and have horrible animations like Falke. It's so obvious they have a bunch of different designers and animators working on the characters. Just look at Zeku's character model and animations. It completely outclasses almost every other character.

I don't play sfv but couldn't somebody just CA that shit?

she doesn't have a manface tho
her winning screen looked creepy but it's already changed slightly

I asked you first, dummy. You do realise other people can read our conversation, right?

how do I get over post-EVO depression?

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Weird, since everytime someone complained about SFV your kind was fast to labeled as a "guy from rkappa".

SEQUEL WHEN?!

Answer the question, reddit.
Protip: The answer is a big round number.

"Marketing team" good God you really know anything about this, do you?

Being peak trashy

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The way they milk fighting games in terms of microtransactions and DLC push me away from the genre as well as always prefer in single player games

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Because people want to pretend the shit mentioning New-Type wasn't just an attempt at dodging censorship at the time because beating up a buncha bad psychopath gangster women is bad in a beat 'em up apparently. They could put her in a bikini tight enough to show the cameltoe and people would still go "oh she's tucking" because they want to feel old.
Its like that stupid obnoxious shit with final Fantasy and the retarded localization numbers.

what "deep" you need faggots
Literally every new fighting game sells half his predecessor

People enjoyed SFII fine

because it's about ethics in games journalism

Zeta Gundam meme man

it's because of her big personality

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>People enjoyed SFII fine
Play it online and get back to me. Just because you only played it with your same low IQ siblings doesn't mean the game didn't have depth. I guarantee you can't win a single game against anyone willing to play it online, and I guarantee you're going to hate it more than any modern fighting game.

RENT

Play a fighting game

This thread reeks of casual normalfags, lel

>play an arcade FPS game
>shoot someone in the kneecap
>they aren't instantly crippled
damn this game fucking sucks bros, why do games make concessions on realism in the name of balance?????

Not him but it's pretty basic, my dude. You can meme all you want but everybody knows this. Not sure who you're trying to impress here.

>OP's thread backfired
kek

Answer my questchin

Need some good Poison porn where she gets fucked in the ass

This. Yesterday I finally learned how to wave dash semi consistently in Tekken.

I want to hit her with mine

>It's bad that a character who has massive range has their hurtbox extended with them.
Holy shit, you absolute fucking retard.

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You seem to be implying it wasn't a false-flag operation to begin with.

That's a special not a normal you dingus

I hate animefags so fucking much.

Based and same, my friend

>Not sure who you're trying to impress here
Not everyone is a mentally ill tranny trying to impress someone. I'm just calling you out on your ignorance.
Simple =/= Shallow. Chess has very simple moves that you can learn in 2 minutes, you still won't beat someone who has been playing for 2 years because the game has depth that goes beyond its simple rules.

>demonstrations
>story
>trials
>leveling up

In samsho, everyone also has a weapon you mouth-breathing troglodyte.

>but in SF even adding another 1-2 frames recovery on a move might completely ruin it's poking/zoning potential.
As a result you create stupid meta where any character who can't confirm combo from distance becomes useless against such characters.

>wanted to play honda
>can't do hands reliably
time to kill myself

They made Hands easy in SFV. It's only 4 inputs instead of 5.

>Grab whip to pull opponent in realistic
>Punch whip and damage them unrealistic
They should at least show the whip firing back at Poison if they wanted to do the whole “Punch a weapon hurts the fighter” stuff.

This. I assumed they would simplify inputs on hands like they did with Chun.

>It’s bad that a character with a weapon takes damage from someone hitting their weapon with no explanation
>Bro, the only only way to balance a game is to have it a glitched mess
Yea Forums loves sucking off Corporations today don’t they?

being able to do hand slap raw would be OD

It seems even worse than normal. I'm gonna pretend everyone is baiting to keep my sanity.

>Realism in video games when it comes to sexy women
We don't want realism in our video games.
>Realism in video games when it comes to not sexy women.
What the fuck, this isn't realistic at all.

Same

>explanation
A feature that had been in fightan since the dawn of time. Serious question: what was your first fighting game, user?

Guys...is he coming back? Will we see Mike Ross again? Will this be the beginning of a new era?

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nah. which is a shame, because e.honda is one of the most faithful legacy characters they've put in SFV. he's great.

He ain't coming back

youtube.com/watch?v=yH-PizBzyyc

>except that SFV and MvCI are disliked even by the FGC top players
This is what r/kappa actually thinks

No because "Street Fighter V bad!"

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>ITT: Yea Forums proves once again that they don't REALLY play fightan

No fucking shit, it's like this every EVO, and it's pathetically embarrassing.

Woah...... The same thing that occurs with every long poke character from Axel low to Dhalsim happened again..... Woah.......

FAT

TRANNY

BOOTY

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He said even if Honda came out he still wouldn't play SFV

Would cum in her asshole

>tfw no locals nearby
>no way to play offline fighting games

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Based chad.

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What the fuck ever happened to Anasheya anyways? I feel like he hasn't done anything new in ages.

>TRANNY
stop projecting your faggotry on others

Please say sike.

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Poison is one hundred percent a Tranny.
In Japan he is pre-op, in America he is post-op.

>tranny
It's no longer the 90s, user. There's no need for degeneracy unless you're trying to push an agenda of some kind.

>I have no counterarguments and I force myself to suck off the Japanese and Israeli at any given moment, and never question why they don’t put more effort into making an already lazy genre of gaming

He might come back for Guilty Gear, but he has to get over his issues first

It’s the best, can’t wait for constant threads about the new gg character being black when there were already two in the previous games

user I...

In Japan Poison is female. Educate yourself, tranny.

>that one doujin where she fucks Ryu and Ken as shotas

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No, he isn't. He's a tucker in Japan.

I have two words: Rebis Poison

>weebs pretending that Poison being a tranny is only a thing in America when every single Poison doujin gives her a big fat cock

And what if poison wants to reverse that situation afterwards?

Then I fuck her ass harder. I'm no faggot.

i mean the issue there is primarily people having objectively atrocious taste and also hesitation to step outside of what they are familiar with

you know what would be EPIC?
you know how zeku can switch between a young and old version of himself
poison should be able to do the same and become a man and a (woman)

>fighting game
>character whips out a gun
>shoots the other guy
>he blocks
>it doesn't work because yeah right good luck blocking a fucking bullet with your bare hands
>instant death
>not even a second round
gotta love them realistic fighting video games

Sure, in the hands of someone who can't use their own tools to fight through the zoning.

I hate MVCI because of how much I loved UMVC3
Also because they turned dragon punch motions into fucking down down which is ass to do on a stick.

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Here’s an idea for you corporate cocksuckers.
Why doesn’t Capcom, you know, either show off how punching a whip actually hurts the fighter (such as seeing an animation where the whip hits Poison in the face after it gets hit), or balance the move in any other way?
If this was any other game, people would be complaining about it, not because of “le you don’t how these games work”, but because this type of lazy and illogical design shouldn’t be in the game, and the designers can easily change it while still having it be balanced?

>pubes
Fucking ruined

How can you be this gay?

>implying liking disgusting pubes isn't for literal faggots

>Calling someone else gay when you explicitly want to fuck a tranny.

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Ok retard

>Call the developers shit for not thinking things through before including a character whose weapon would require ridiculous bullshit to balance.

Liking trannies isn't gay.

Sorry bro, I know how you feel. You

I think you mean he hasn't been shilled in ages.

Have a gold medal for that incredible mental gymnastic performance, user

There's nothing gay about wanting to suck a cute girl's massive throbbing cock

Thank you, what is it shaped like?

And you're wrong.

I'll be the first person to shit on V but this is in no way shape or form a bad thing

Faggot.

So why doesn’t Capcom balance the move in a different way or have some animation of the whip hitting Poison?

Because that would actually just cause more confusion amongst those who actually understand how fighting games work. And for what? To appease some autists on the internet?

>Hitting someone’s weapon
>They take damage with no explanation to why
>”I’ll be the first to shit on SFV, but...”
Is your IQ below freezing temperatures, you lying faggot?

You just project your delusions of being a hot woman onto a character because you hope one day to look as attractive,let go,you are only hurting those who love you,they may support you but they are hurting inside

>looking at this 'logically' at face value
It's a Dhalsim sized sweep/low it makes sense in a videogame sort of way.

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>Is your IQ below freezing temperatures, you lying faggot?
This is one of the best insults I've heard in this place, I'm gonna steal it from you to use it in other threads, thanks a lot user.

>Balancing a move in a different way is too confusing for the pros
>Showing a whip hit the user would be too confusing for the pros
And you’re the one that’s calling me a retard, you apologist faggot.

Is it really the same retard spamming 'faggot'?
How sad can a human being be?

someone hasn't watched literally any tam tam match in sam sho

Fuck off faggot.

That was pretty limp wristed actually so if I ever see that "insult" again I'm gonna call you a quadruple nigger and possibly, a faggot.

Factually and objectively wrong.
>doujins
lol okay faggot

Imagine having invisible hurtboxes

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Cope harder, dipshit.

Fagguette

In that order?

Wait a minute

LIGHT IT UP

why is g so cool and fun bros

>never buy a Capcom fighting game at launch
ftfy

Imagine spending so much time remembering these broken hitboxes to stand a fighting chance.

>no season pass bullshit
>only DLC (Bruce Lee) is cheap and even free if you got the previous game
>wealth of single player content
>focus on spacing and stamina management instead of remembering long, drawn-out combos
>plenty of people playing online still
>on sale
>can create your own fighter
>microtransactions are walled off in a mode you don't ever need to touch

Why haven't you played the actual best fighting game on the market (until UFC 4 comes out)? Soulcalibur, Tekken, it's all the same shit, long combos and muh epic headgames that only unemployed incels care about.

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They'll patch it, don't worry

I'm not the one coping, nigger tranny.

Says the trannylover?
You can deny it all you want, Poison is canonically a tranny.

Is it true that hakan's wife was Haman's original design but they went full AWAKEN MAH HOMOS!?

>It doesn't count! My emotions have spoken!
yikes

nice brainlet post
this shit is the same in almost every fighting game and it is that way for a reason. If you throw out a melee move and you whiff then you get punished, enough said. It wouldn't be fair to the characters who don't have weapons to add to their reach if it didn't have a hurtbox. It makes sense from a gameplay perspective and that's what matters.

either way these games also feature characters shooting sonic waves and fireballs out of their arms, maybe they just hit the weapon so hard the vibrations did damage to the character.

She's not. Keep projecting, tranny.

Dhalism made sense since he used his limbs to fight.
And, again, why not show poison getting hit by her whip?

Girl girls, stop the catfight.
you are both retarded faggot niggers

In america maybe, since they think beating up women in a beat'em up is a nono

Laziest implementation possible
Like the hitbox of a 16bit game

Now I do hereby declare, to every single person on the planet Earth, from the very bottom of my soul and with the deepest of sincerity that I am firmly resolute in my undertaking. That I will not yield to anyone or anything until I accomplish what I've set out to do. Together, you and I will be one with Earth. I swear, the Earth and its people will become one. Power to the people of Earth!
Hope he's back in 6

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Imagine not having a 1 frame cancelable low

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>Tranny ruins game

Wait... you're serious?

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>implying you even played it

Based

saves time, something like that would have to be really quick or else it could end in a long stagger state for Poison making something like a sweep very punishable. Again this is the best option unless they somehow have an urge to appease you're au inspiring tism.

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No, user. There's literally no way he is.

SFV is the worst fighting game he has ever played

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Imagine being +10 on block

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It's all just functions anyway.

i hate this, they do this to falke's staff as well and shes low tier. they need to balance them in other ways than doing shit that just looks really weird and illogical.

Then why did Merkava raped everyone on every animevo before UNIST?

oh so you think guilty gear is shit then?

He actually said that the only thing worse is Tekken 7.

I don't give EA money and I never pirate so you got me. I've never played it but combat sports sim games just aren't as good or deep as regular FGs. You remind me of my 55 year old uncle lmaoo

Fuck off piece of shit zoomer.

I really enjoy fighting game threads because they're the only place on Yea Forums where I know for sure black anons participate the most.

No bully

>didn't play it

You could've ended the post there, the rest is superfluous.

Also weeb-heavy threads.
and fucking sony threads as well

holy fucking shit

Smh

UWAAAAAH

twitch.tv/mikeross/clip/ArbitraryStrongSardineKappaWealth

user....ex is dead

Im superior to you you fucking cracker bitch. You going extinct with negative birthrate and you dare talk you bitch ass cracker. Also blacks are the best at fighting games in the world ,wtf are you talking about boy?

Click on the link user

user... meme magic resurrected it

me too man. i just hope he doesnt get fucked up and his personality removed to transform into q

>t. whitey posing as black

this is the greatest day of my life

>sticking out a jab to catch an extended hurtbox

how is this an issue? back to kappa.

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why do people say nigger so much then
it was spammed so much when SonicFox was playing

Why larp this hard? What do you stand to gain from it?

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The actual fighting game community outcasts like you are the ones that dont realize everyone hates SFV and the ones that play it do so out of obligation

crapcom fighting game "community" is nearly entirely black in the west, it's an easy bait.

Does any non-retard want to play something on fightcade? 98, 02, st, a3, breakers?

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So enlighten us. Or alternatively post a lobby for your fighting game of choice so i can beat your fucking ass at it like the keyboard weenies you are

You're living in a fantasy world that you very carefully curate for yourself. Post one pro worth his salt who "hates" SFV. The memes have overwhelmed you, user.

Because it's funny and taboo to say anywhere else, nigger

see me in kof02 on fightcade username is van darkholme

F-fuck you...

No black person would reveal their ape power level like this you dumb whitey

t. Actual darkman

>Also blacks are the best at fighting games in the world ,wtf are you talking about boy?

lmao at this nig

>Post one pro
Sure, easy as all fuck-

>worth his salt
No one i list to you would qualify because otherwise you'd lose. Thanks for playing

>username is van darkholme

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>nig

just do what everyone else does and make a smurf account to grind enough easy fm to buy one character

Who thought Poison's default hairstyle in SFV was a good idea? That ponytail looks great in comparison.

Now give menat orb an hurtbox too capfags

I was like that too until I realize that SFV still has clipping issues and giving Poison short hair works

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>shilling
anasheya doesn't even have a patreon

>He actually believes this

No one still playing the game is going to shit talk it, for obvious reasons, you dumb fucking retard. How about seek the opinions of players who dropped SF, yeah?

>MvCI was probably an even better example than sfv. Even though infinite was a letdown that deserved backlash, the absolute lynching the game got went way overboard, and most likely killed the series for good.
This is half-truth.

MvCI died because everyone expected MvC4 but what actually we actually got was changed Tatsunoko vs Capcom with Marvel characters and tag mechanics. Plus game was rushed. Also I can't shake off the feeling that instead of polishing game they've decided to make game more appealing to casuals. On top of that there were roster problems - regardless what Mr. Function said we never got Magneto nor Wolverine-like characters in game. Finally MvCI looked worse than UMvC3.

I don't even play fighting games, but you should be murdered.

>applying real life logic to videogames in order to shittalk when there's plenty of actual reasons

know how I know you don't know shit about vidya?

didn't like it first either but it grown on me

overall I prefer it this way. USF4 already nailed her 3d look, there is no point in just remaking the same thing just with slightly more polys

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Yeah. She plays similarly to Kolin. Except for her fireball (which doesn't reach far), all of her attacks and special moves are close ranged. She has some really fun combos too. If you ever wanted a mix of Kolin and Ken, then Lucia is perfect for you.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Based

>Nig

Why do people act like weapons have hurtboxes is some unusual thing?

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Have you not played Dhalsim for the past almost 30 years?

What would you do if you woke up and saw this?

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slut fighter v's only merit is in the female models and lucia debuts at high tier with those thighs

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yo poison is lit,senpaitachi

>thought I was supposed to be looking for a penis bulge
>took me about 15 seconds to realize I was supposed to be looking at the hit box

Have you ever hurt someone by punching them in the sword?

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Any pictures of >her in that stunning white dress?

I'd ask where Juri is

Billy Kane syndrome has been a thing for a long time now, get used to it.

why

Can't win if you don't commit

when the fuck are we getting a kolin doujin?

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MvCI's problems all stem from baffling dev mistakes. They deserved everything that came to them, despite the gameplay actually being solid. But if there arent good character selections and those characters look awful then you have literally no market for a fanservice crossover game.

Ask her why her default costumes hat is so much better detailed than her wintry costume.

have you ever finished someone with an ex hadoken?

It was an error the developers didn't catch. It wasn't fixed for the sf anniversary edition too, likely for balance reason and accuracy.
He does have an literal inescapable throw loop.

i thought you could neutral jump it

>mfw will never hug Poison

not even anything taboo, just that

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Dhalsim's limbs physically extend so it makes a lot of sense that his hurtbox would be so far out.

They're trying to balance the game and are smart enough to realize they're too stupid to do a good job. So they balance by giving everyone gimpy shit.

Which is weird, because in two versions of 4 (Super and USF4) balance was pretty good. I honestly liked the Super approach: make characters nobody wants to play (turtle & charge) the strongest, and traditional (offensive) characters somewhat less strong.

>grabbing normals instead of counterpoking normals

this is not smash and counterpoking normals has been in SF since the fucking asian dynasty

ArcSys have a slightly different approach to footsies, user. Most of the characters can run, airdash, and use invulnerability frames as a part of their footsies - that's not something SF games are balanced around.
For instance, vanilla SFIV was all about spamming regular fireballs - that's not something that would work in, say, GG.
That being said, that particular move is one of the best aerial pokes in the game and one of the best moves Jin has.
If we talk Guilty Gear, Ky's far Slash has an absurd reach, moderately quick start-up and it can be cancelled into basically anything - and Ky can be punished by hitting the tip of his sword. 2S or 5HS do not have this problem because they aren't as far-reaching.

fug*

Vampire Savoir user name Eliishere
You'll probably win I just want someone to play with.

This is how its always been tho.
You could do this with a lot of stuff in sf4.

There's a SHITLOAD of problems with the garbage that is sfv, this is not one

Only you idiots would hate footsies

Launch was really just for enthusiasts and being able to get the game into competitive scenes early.

That being said, I bought it at launch and the fight money system worked perfectly for me, I have every single character and haven't spent anything outside of the $48 i paid for the game.

user where are your frens...

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>more characters with spats
I am so sick of this shit. Give me one fucking reason not to end it all.

Is Tekken 7 any good? Thinking of picking it up.
t. doesn't play fighting games

With how popular it's getting if you don't have any biases toward franchises it's great.

I think they are referring the the very first day, where online just flat out didn't work. Day 2 was aight.

She's about to get BLACKED

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Ayy lmao

>t. Doesnt play fighting games

I'd recommend soul calibur instead, it's a better entrypoint into 3D fighters than tekken

>Is Tekken 7 any good?

It's good but rather complex and does a shit job at explaining mechanics.

>blacked
>a white chad blasting her ass
She was built for BWC

>quantities

Once again a thread confirms that Yea Forums is absolute shit at fighting games and have no idea about them.

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>fighting Balrog
You know how this is gonna end

You're all retarded.

Extended hurtboxes are like the only way to balance long range pokes like that without them being retarded or else the other player could never get in.

Look at these hitboxes:

wiki.shoryuken.com/Billy_Kane_02

A scrub like you retards would think "WOW THESE SUCK LMAO". But billy in kof02 is a top tier character and barely has any combos. JUST because of how well he can poke you with his buttons. Back to /r/kappa you stupid pieces of shit.

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It's more MvC1 than TvC.

Make up, angles, lighting.

He has his own shit to deal with, and he's one of the few that sees what the FGC is becoming/has become, and he doesn't like it.

>what actually we actually got was changed Tatsunoko vs Capco

No, you got Cross Tekken 2.0

jesus i just came to Yea Forums to see the REEEEEE over trump cracking down violent games, and i instead i witness that video game zealots have higher level of damage control than crypto zealots

BECAUSE SFV BAD.

It is good, but it's equally as hard to get into.
Just like everyone before me said, try something simpler first, maybe even a 2D fighter

Honda's stage is fucking great.

Explain OP's lazy shit without end up looking like a retard, please enlight us.
Idiotic justification

Well it was 4k people today on steam at peak because of new characters. And as always sony does everything to hide their own numbers. Even if it was 8k of players on play station, its still 10k actual players VS 150k people who at best plays this game for single player content only. Imagine if half of these people review bombed the game on steam :-)

Tldr if your fighting game doesnt have content for casuals it will be hated.

Make smurf account and find out.

Most of the design goes into how these characters play. And you can spice it up with different costumes. Pic related: rashid

You get CA ~once per two rounds and if it misses you lose all resources and even complete begginer can punish you. You dont normally use CA to punish normals. You save CA as big round finisher.

If you can post on Yea Forums chances are high you can play online. Also during evo they asked the dude who made the evo about how does one make such community. And he just said: build it and they will come. One day you will have 2 people and next month you will have 4, then 8 and soon you will have problems like too many people and not enough chairs.

They make default skins too ugly on purpoise so people spend extra cach on buying nostalgia or better looking skins :3

Its decent fighter but i wouldnt recommend it to anybody unless they have sadomasochism. Btw SFV is free to play until saturday. So start there.

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>Explain OP's lazy shit without end up looking like a retard
You can't even type out a simple system without looking like a retard, why should anyone care about responding to you.

>pcgamestorrents.com/street-fighter-v-arcade-edition-v4-070-codex.html
I have the game on Steam but I'd rather just pirate it so I don't have to give Capcom a dime for all the DLC. Thanks, user.

Thot status: patrolled.

So Yea Forums as expected is going to cry about extended normal just the same as they cried about stubby normals.

user...

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>a simple system
look who's talking

The DLC situation really got out of hand. In Tekken 7 I have 100% of the content available just by purchasing both season passes. For SFV I own the game since day one, have bought all season passes, have grinded FM and I still don't own all characters, all stages and have only a small percentage of costumes.

He'll just say google translator is shit/ lying or whatever.
All our existence is based in beliefs (Plato's cave etc.), and so fanatics can never be wrong by argumenting their belief is truth and yours fake.
Basically, the only way to "win" an internet fight is by not participating at all.

considering getting into SFV, but am dogshit at fightan games
i assume i should be trying to stick with ryu a while to learn how to play, but what are some general tips i should know?
are there many oceania players online or will i just constantly get put against americans and be forced to sit through half a second of input delay?
how does the ingame currency work? will microtransactions be mandatory to unlock certain things?

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Even if that specific retard still denies it, the thought of enlightening bystanders to poison's massive dick is reward enough

How good is e.honda?
Thinking about getting him, but I'm not sure if his worth it right now?

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