Mouse Thread

Zowie FK1

>WIRELESS BAD!

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>cummycomb
>anywhere near the top

why is this allowed

Numpad = More weight, worse shape, worse sensor

The only reason to get a mouse with 5 million buttons is if you're an MMO tranny.

>there are retards that actually believe a wireless mouse will have the same latency as a wired mouse

You have already been comprehensively rekt

youtube.com/watch?v=orhb7Njj3h8

Run along now, brainlet.

Just a regular Logitech mouse because i'm not a manchild who needs a multicolored magnetohydrodynamic gaymer mouse with port and starboard attachments.

tfw G502 but love it

EAT MY ASS OP

It feels light to me me. The numpad is pretty nice for FPS too.

Gaming Mice have objectively better sensors. The fact that you don't realize this tells me you're a retard.

>g502
>took a g500 and said “how can we shit all over this?”

There’s a reason the 305 is up higher because it’s literally a pallet swapped g500

>The numpad is pretty nice for FPS too.

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>people on this board that think Gaming Mouses are a meme
>people in this thread that use anything lower than a Pixart PMW 33xx

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>over edited soi boi says so so it must be right
You couldn’t have picked a worse video to prove how much of a zoomer you are

>putting rats in f only because they look retarded
>putting the hand cheese grater in a+

chart maker confirmed for fucking retarded

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It's literally a pure, organic benchmark that comprehensively proves you're a complete idiot. Time to move on.

Gaming mouse charts are such a dumb meme when 90% of mice use the same pixart sensors

Just check the pixart product chart, pick a sensor, punch that into amazon, and buy the cheapest mouse that looks like a good hand-fit.

Zowie S2, Razer Viper, MM530, Revenger S, and Owl-Eye all use literally the exact same sensor for example. Only real outliers that make good mice that don't use pixart sensors are steelseries and logitech.

>It's a thinly veiled industry shilling thread to sell worthless trash to people who think they'll be just like the cool pros

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>wireless
>razer
yeah I'm thinking cringe

>Gaming mouse charts are such a dumb meme when 90% of mice use the same pixart sensors
Except it's not just about sensors you dumbass. Weight, size and shape also matter, and have a big effect on quality. This is why Corsair mice are typically shit, despite having good enough sensors.

wireless trackball

>WIRELESS BAD!

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This right here is my favorite mouse of all time. The numpad is nice but the real kicker is that programmable third mouse button. Too bad it's been discontinued.

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I use the original zowie FK from before the logo change, the finish is chipping off and the glass is a little scratched. How is the original compared to the newer versions?

>pick a sensor, punch that into amazon, and buy the cheapest mouse that looks like a good hand-fit.

You have eyes, don't you anonymous? Maybe you should use them to read what I fucking wrote. Shape and weight are completely subjective from person to person, so charts are worthless. What makes more sense is exactly what I said to do, pick a sensor, go on amazon, and pick one that looks comfy/similar to the mouse shape you're used to.

>programmable third mouse button
What do you mean? All the buttons are programmable, are they not?

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in what way is wireless good
I sit at a desk

That doesn't address weight you stupid idiot.

No cable drag, can move your mouse to different parts of the desk without worrying about tugging the cable.

Amazon lists the weight you retard

They are, I just thought it was important to clarify that it's not permanently assigned to a specific button or a proprietary logitech button that only switches modes or something.

Classic G400. They don't make em like they used to.

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user is talking about the third face button that your ring finger goes on. I have the same mouse and it really is nice.

I don't experience cable drag
where do you move your mouse on your desk apart from your mouse mat?

A friend of mine owns the new MX518 and keeps telling me how good it is.. is he in denial or what?

Here is the true tier list.

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>only trackball is on F Tier
pleb filtered

user, the MX518 in the OP list (which is a troll list to begin with) is the original MX518. A 14 year old mouse being compared to the modern models. FOUR. TEEN.

Where does pic related rank? Just got it on sale.

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>2012
sure nigger

I have a $15 logitech I bought eleven years ago and it still works fine.

chadballer coming through

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Because only dead set retards like yourself use trackballs for games.

>anything razer
screams 'fuck me in the ass'. Trust me this shit wont last.

ABSOLUTELY BASED, BOOBERFAGGOTS ON SUICIDE WATCH
The only thing I disagree with though is the rank of the g pro wireless, it should be SSS not SS.

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But that's one extra thing on your desk.

Who is she?

Literally every major pro-esportfag uses the G-pro. Nice try though.

>wireless
Didn't we beat you fucking zoomers to death last thread?
Stop shilling your eceleb shit.

15 dollar laser mouse with shitty sensor.

>2012
Time for bed grandpa. You still use a nokia block phone too?

>pause the game bro i gotta charge my mouse

>latency, paying extra, and having to charge my mouse for a completely useless feature good!

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Source on girl?

>input delay good

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Where does the G402 fit in?

Rival 300 for a couple years now, it's okay but if it died I wouldn't buy another one

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You only BTFO'd yourself, idiot. It's your word vs all the benchmarks and all the professionals.

>thinking there's input delay
Idiot.

>2019
>input delay

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>>latency
You're only further proving your stupidity here.

>wireless
hard pass

5 € mouse from nearby supermarket. All money spent goes to ACTUALLY relevant stuff like graphics card etcs.

Update.

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If you play competitive multiplayer games, you are gimped.

>Logitech G600 and 700s not even listed
>Corsair Scimitar in F tier

Do you faggots actually use 1 through 0 for your keybinds?

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Mouse monitor keyboard and headphones are the most relevant stuff.

Can vertical mouses be used for gaming?

>zowie fk at top
now THIS is a good list

Numpad mice are shit, scrub.

No, you got BTFO'd by everyone because you disregarded every pieces of proof that makes nowadays's wireless mice better.

Based. Though the current "MX518" is basically an updated G400.

They're a godsend for MMO's.

>Actually playing FPS games competitively and caring enough to get a mouse with a slightly better sensor that no-one really gives a shit about instead of a utility mouse that works for everything

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Nobody cares, MMO tranny.

fuggin based

What's so good about Zowies?

currently using a rival 110
used a cm storm alcor before it
the 110 is a lot lower profile than the alcor and it's taking me some time to get used to
solid mouse aside from that

Why are so many people obsessed with the G502?

on Yea Forums retard wireless shills outnumber actual smart people

Smart people? Is that how you think of yourself?

>BuuuUuuh Naga bad because it a brand name and me no like 12 buttons

Yea Forums ia retarded and i already dont listen to what you retards say but people are going to eat this shit up as favt despite the fact that a fucking wireless mouse is at the top

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It's certainly not how i think of you, that's for sure

wireless adds lag noob
The receiver has to convert emg waves to electricity that the computer can read. This step is completely avoided by using wired.

And then you realize that the insanely high dpi options that those ebic mice come with are never used because they would never actually help amd no pro uses the feature itself

Actually as a matter of fact, even the Naga has more dpi available than a pro would use, but retards will eat shit as long they can fit in

This is one of the absolute worst tier lists I have ever had the displeasure of laying my own two fucking eyes on.

>G502 anywhere below S tier

I really fucking hope to jesus christ in heaven this is bait

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I already know you're an idiot. All mindlessly spamming does is further reinforce that notion. You've already been proven wrong so many times, no amount of repeating yourself will change that.

>DPI
Irrelevant, retard.
Numpad mice have bad shapes, extra weight to accommodate buttons and gimped sensors, which are bad for games like Quake and CSGO.

Fuck off to your MMOs you worthless tranny.

>They uhh have bad shapes and stuff?
>G-gimped censors! Yeah!
>No im not going to cite or prove anything

Lmao try harder, they're perfectly fine, even if you want to play games competitively. Besides i dont even use the mouse for MMOs, the keyboard 1-9 is fucking retarded

>wireless g403 is $160 on amazon
>got it for $60 a year and a half ago
Dabbin' on them zoomies rn.

how comfortable is the back of that thing? I guess it depends if you have manlet hands or just the size of it compared to your hands in general

It's quite glaringly obvious you've only ever played competitive games at a low level. It's time you swallow your pride and move on.

IT'S HERE!

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>2012
Update that shit men

Why is my MX518 in the F tier?

G403 here, FUCK WIRELESS

t. doesnt think energy conversion takes time
You can't just convert electromagnetic waves to electricity without using some time.

nothing has changed in mouse technology in 14 years

FK1. Kind of wish it had a braided cable, but whatever. It's a wonderful mouse.
IDK why the fuck you'd ever pay 2x what any Zowie would cost for a G.Pro. How much more mouse are you getting for the extra $75?

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No cable, which means cleaner desk.
Modular side buttons on both the left and right.
Better sensor. The FK's sensor is slightly outdated.

>2013

It depresses me to think someone will actually pay out the ass for these EOL mice just because a massively outdated chart on Yea Forums told them to

>input delay good

then you obviously wouldn't buy a wireless g pro since it has a higher response rate than most wired gaming mice.

but you're just a stubborn, opinionated neckbeard elitist and don't care about facts, do you?

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emg waves transfer data faster than copper tho

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you forgot g900/903

You gonna eat that cat, chang?

>no cable
You could buy any wireless mouse of equal price.
>side buttons on both sides
You mean like the FK has, along with every ambi mouse made since the mid-00's?
>better sensor
This alone is not worth $75.

fuck off underage wojak nigger

This.

What a disgusting thread.

No, of course not. The mouse is from chinkland, not me.

I must say, I'm surprised how fucking light it is. Are all gaming mice like these nowadays? My dinosaur G500 weighted like half a kilo even without the "gaming weights".

That 1 nanosecond advantage is lost on conversion.

What makes G Pro wireless better than regular wired version? I remember reading somewhere that it's pretty much completely different mouse. True/false?

What's wrong? Insecure you're still using an outdated piece of garbage?

Deathadder has a good shape, good sensor and just the right amount of buttons. Why wouldn’t I use it?

>It's quite glaringly obvious you've only ever played competitive games at a low level

Yes because you, basement dwelling user, of all people, would know, right? You're really stacking that prize money, right, you're familiar with high level play? Oh.. no to both? Aww, you almost had me convinced. See here, you fucking shitter, it's retards like you that buy into this ebic pumped-numbers high performance mouse bullshit like you think you'll ever use it or that it's going to fix your shit skill out of nowhere. Take a fucking shower and clear your head before you try and move out of line again

It pretty much is a different mouse, the G305 is what should be the wireless G pro. I'm not entirely sure they they decided to confuse the fuck out of everyone.

Nice projection, dickhead. You have to go back.

>ss tier
>wireless
lol

>shows you video proof
>only argument is buzzwords

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I have a razer naga. I bought it in 2011 and it just never breaks so I've got no excuse to buy a new one.

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>You could buy any wireless mouse of equal price.
You were comparing to "any Zowie" though. Zowie mice are all wired.
As far as comparing the G.Pro to other wireless mice, it's only 80g, which is a big deal. The major tradeoff with other wireless mice is extra weight because of the battery, but 80g is lighter than most wired mice.
>along with every ambi mouse made since the mid-00's?
Wrong. Even the recent Zowie S series only have side buttons on one side. Also, the FK's aren't modular.
>This alone is not worth $75.
That depends. For most people it's not, but if you tilt-slam a lot in Quake, the difference between the FK's sensor and a more modern sensor matters.

My old Microsoft ball mouse from like 2001.

/boomer/

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Different shapes. The G.Pro Wireless is shaped similarly to the ambidextrous Zowie mice, and Zowie are the king of mouse shapes.
The G.Pro wired is the same shape as the G102/G203.

>corsair cimitar that low
My roommate has that one and is pretty ok as far a he tells me

Why are you so mad?
Forget about your agenda with me for a second, there isn't a single person in the top 1000 CSGO or Quake players who uses a numpad mouse. Why? Because nobody wants the extra weight, or side buttons planted on the grip area.

I know you're extremely insecure because you thought yourself intelligent to buy a mouse with 5 million buttons, thinking it would help your performance in FPS games. But the sad reality is: you're a complete idiot, and you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper.

>It's a thinly veiled industry shilling thread to sell worthless trash to people who think they'll be just like the cool pros

why is there always some grand conspiracy behind the reason why people want to own nice things?

Whether it be the RTX 2080 ti, wireless G Pro, liquid cooling or something as simple as RGB fans, there's always somebody that shitposts the idea that spending your own money on high end parts somehow makes you an unlikable, loathsome person.

The minute you deviate from the mid-end/mediocre-tier meme rigs that's the average Yea Forumsirgin's setup, they shit on you for it. Why? Because y'all swear its not out of pure jealously.

this is the worst tier chart ive ever seen, the mx518 was incredible, and everyone knows wireless mice are terrible

Any they better than their console controllers? I bought a couple of gamecube controllers from them a while back, and they were terrible.

>(((gaming))) mice
nice ricer shit zoomer

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SteelSeries RAW
It's been worth the 45 bucks I paid for it.

>the mx518 was incredible
Because you're a retard who can't let go of the past, I know.

>and everyone knows wireless mice are terrible
Again, retard who can't let go of the past.

youtube.com/watch?v=orhb7Njj3h8
youtube.com/watch?v=jAJ-uHga9eM
prosettings.net/cs-go-pro-settings-gear-list/

Damn, you people know your mice.
>t. touchpad pleb

Steelseries Sensei is the worst mouse I've ever used, and that includes some $3 trash from the supermarket.

Why would anyone do that in a fps

Seriously, why are you faggots all stuck in 2012?

I just ordered this its supposed to be delivered by Wednesday. Seems pretty good and I'm sick of all the rgb gaming mouses. I am currently using the Rival 310 and its the worst mouse I've ever used. The rubber sides peel off when I move the mouse and the "ergonomic curve" is uncomfortable.

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I've never used one of these in my life. What do you think of them those of you who have used them? Is this even a good trackball? Are there better ones?

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>forgot the greentext
>Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball
>pic related now

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nixeus revel
never seen someone talk about it but it works just fine

Wow

why are trackball mice bad?

*Slams 12 incher onto the table*

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Why didn't you just buy a Zowie?

>mx518
>fixed 800 dpi
>15g acceleration, which is shit in comparison to wireless G Pro's 40g
>no onboard memory
>106 gram pig plus clunky wire
>not ambidextrous
>can only withstand 8 million clicks in its usable lifespan vs G Pro's 50 million
>"incredible"

Nostalgia is one helluva drug in clouding somebody's ability to rationally determine quality/

>There isn't a single person in the top 1000 CSGO or Quake players who uses a numpad mouse

Oh, in all of top 1000? So you could show me the mice all top 1000 players use and prove this? No? I fucking thought not. But i'll humor you because it's already getting sad. Assuming that were true, they wouldnt need the buttons, it's that simple, they're convenient for some, but a necessity for absolutely none, i just like to have them, there is no disadvantage.

>nobody wants the extra weight

I would really love to know where you got the idea that these mice are so heavy. Of course, it'd be cliche to say shit about something you've never owned, but yeah, you'd never do something like that, right?

>buy a mouse with 5 million buttons, thinking it would help your performance in FPS games

Lmao what the actual fuck, excuse me? I would love to know what went through your head that you had to believe this story you just created on the spot for me. You're so desperate

>you're a complete idiot, and you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper.

Ahahaha, sayeth the fucking retard who thinks i bought and use this mouse for fucking shooters, literally all this assumption, all this implying. You can just use it as a mouse, the buttons are a bonus, you are literally mad as fuck and feel a need to drone on with your pseud bullshit because otherwise you'll feel the crushing weight of being called out, and you can't handle that. But by all means retroactively try and scramble together some narrative so that you don't die on this hill of your crushing stupidity. Or don't, the way you write gives me a very strong impression you're a highschooler who's recently discovered this site

It's in the update.

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>Oh, in all of top 1000? So you could show me the mice all top 1000 players use and prove this? No? I fucking thought not
prosettings.net/cs-go-pro-settings-gear-list/

Idiot.

>w-wireless is just a meme

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>there is no disadvantage.
But you're a low level player, so you wouldn't really know.

Size and shape is by far the most important factor when choosing a mouse for gaming performance, and nobody's going to choose to have a numpad over a beautifully designed Zowie curve when their priority is optimal aim.

You can stop crying now, idiot. I know you're desperately trying to rationalize your purchase, but it will never mean much coming from worthless garbage like yourself.

>Setting
>400 Dpi
>400 dpi
>400 dpi
>400 dpi

Oh nononono i thought the epic gamer mice were good??? What do you mean all that extra shit is bloat gimmicks? Nooo my gamer mice!

Absolutely lmaoing

Same reason controllers are bad. Analog.

haha what zoomer made this list?
shoulda have spent the time playing fartnite

>dpi is the only difference between mice

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>DPI
The fact that you think this is relevant tells me you're a complete idiot.

a4tech x-710bk
it's pretty great

youtube.com/watch?v=Rtt5qwYDasw

>But you're a low level player

You need to assert this, you HAVE to believe this is true, otgerwise you'll cry, you'll fall apart. If you, a low level player, fins out you're talking to someone way better than you, you'd never be able to cope. And that is sad. The fact is, you literal kid, you're bad, and i'm not, but you have to assert that i am, because you don't have a cope to crutch in otherwise. I feel for you, i do. But someday, you'll graduate high school, and you'll realize that guys like me will humble you all your life. Better get used to it now.

>SIZE AND SHAPE IS IMPORTANT THE CUSTOMIZABLE GRIPS AND BUTTONS DONT COUNT SHUTUPSHUTUP SHUTUP

Hey why don't you copy paste the word "idiot" at me a couple hundred times, i'm laughing my fucking ass off and i need you to keep my buzz up. As a bonus maybe you'll actually believe what you say is true, yeah?

>listen to the recommendations of these below 25 year olds!

lol no thanks, not taking any advice from you unless you're 30+.

>You need to assert this
I don't really, it's pretty glaringly obvious, especially judging by your angsty, insecure tone.

>use the G502 Hero
>so used to having the third thumb button
What is so wrong with this thing? I rarely play FPS games.

>B-but the pink hearts and studded grip for anal pleasure when i shove it up my ass..!

Do elaborate? No? If you are going to try and mention *literal* transient transfer numbers you ought to stop while you're ahead btw

i have been using 2400 dpi on my mouse for a while. reading a lot of gamers use 1600. i have been playing mmo's thou a lot. seem to be comfortable with this thou. im not for sure. 1600 does seem kind of home like ish tho for me.
heavy mouses do suck for fps let me tell you i got an m95 wished they were still made, still it sucks for trying to play a shooter. and i just play games like cod2 like games. not unreal tournament quake games. too.

one thing i have a crt monitor, and i had an ati card r9 390 and it had digital out video only, no analog. crts are analog ok. so i had to use a converter. that added some latency. dont know how much but. let me tell you it was like a headache went away when i got an analog out card, gtx980 one of the last cards with analog out wtf fuck you made. it was like a big headache went away when moving things on the screen and looking at them when i got the card. fuck dispaly latency.

>*sip* yep microsoft intellimouse is the best mouse ever made

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>Razer Naga is literally on the top 40 list

So is that video supposed to be in opposition or defense of what i said

Do you fags actually find that woman attractive? You have serious problems brahs

Keep projecting, please, it's hilarious. Go full armchair on me if you want, i'll get to laugh even harder

My god you're so stupid it hurts. DPI is just a setting.

That's exactly what it is user. What magical optimal features do these epic specialized sh00tr mice have, user? I'm waiting

It's supposed to tell you numpad mice are not the best choice for first person shooters you thick-headed moron. He explicitly says so in that video.

g102/203 > g pro hero > g305

Where am i saying first person shooters? I'm just asserting that the Naga is a good mouse and perfectly fine for even competitive play if you want, nothing more or less. No nees to try and contest me on that either, my posta are still in this thread, read them yourself

>i'll get to laugh even harder
The real reason you're laughing is because your pride has been hurt quite badly, so all you can really do is "laugh" in an effort to mask your stupidity.

Imagine getting this upset over using a numpad mouse and thinking it's good for FPS. You're one sad case.

>and perfectly fine for even competitive play if you want
and this is precisely why you're a complete idiot.
If you buy Razer, you literally have 5+ better options, all with better shapes, better sensors, less weight.

Your pride's on the line though, you'll desperately claim numpad mice are acceptable for competitive shooters even if you have to die.

i got a g402. liked it. as with all logishit stuff, within 2 years its garbage. middle click was blown within 2 years.
myh first mouse besides the one that came with the pc was a logitech. 2 years later, the shitty thin cord was shorting, i keep it going stragith to the back of the computer and don't move it all around. nope 2 years garbage.
buy logitech joysticks all the time. fucking cords usually within 2 fucking years are shot

i go buy microsoft intellimouse after my first shitty logitech mouse cord fucks up. lasts me 4+ years. until i started getting the double click. buy a 2nd one. 5 years before the double click. wire never has a problem.
fuck logishit and their automatically fucking up shit.

>N-no you

Please keep flipping the switch on your many, MANY coping mechanisms. Please do.

>Imagine getting this upset over using a numpad mouse and thinking it's good for FPS.

As you can see they're perfectly fine for FPS, even at a high level. I'm not asserting they're the best, i'm just asserting that they're generally good for everything. But for whatever reason that notion makes you absolutely shit your teenage pants

This baby just came in

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>As you can see they're perfectly fine for FPS
Doesn't say much coming from a low-skill idiot.

>with better shapes

Swappable grips and buttons mean you're good to go regardless of hand size or shape unless you're some sort of size outlier

>better sensors

You cant and wont define what aspect of the sensor needs to be "better"

>Less weight.

Again, it's not a weighty mouse, why are you asserting this about a mouse you've literally never even owned

This is the average ni/g/ger telling you RGBad and wireless bad. Lose weight

How do you stop the cockroaches from crawling into the holes?

My cable still has a kink where they bent it in the box, thanks glorious.

>dirt collector.jpg

>SS tier
>which implies ANTYHING is better than the mice that are under S tier
no faggot
That mouse is not SS tier

>Rival 600 and Viper this low
Watch Zy

You're arguing against Einstein theory of relativity right now my dude.
If a wireless device worked the same as a plugged one, the laws of the universe as we have defined them would be wrong.
Yes, that's how wrong you are.

I'm white and have an exterminator come and spray once a year, sorry I dunno how to answer your question

But the mouse is white

>Get absolutely btfo
>"L-low skill idiot..!"

So do you actually have an argument that doesn't involve "low-skill" or "idiot? No? Thought not. But you need to believe this is true and adamantly crutch on that belief or you can't cope with being wrong AND bad. It is genuinely impressive how far you can fit those fat fingers into your ears, it really is.

Anyway, thanks for playing.

Why would you buy a mouse with holes in it?

>B tier
nice, thought I had cheap chinkshit

intellimouse pro, better than any gaymer shit posted here

Less weight

>not using a picture of the renewed MX518 that has come out with a 16k HERO sensor
No, you explain yourself

it looks nice and it's actually the lightest mouse ive ever held

>You cant and wont define what aspect of the sensor needs to be "better"
Actually I can. It's a measure of how well a mouse can travel pixel by pixel, and how quickly it can turn without spinning out. Then there are other factors like built in acceleration or angle snapping.

Good to see you don't even have basic knowledge on how to judge a censor. You find new ways to show just how unqualified you are to discuss mice. Way to go, idiot.

H O L E T E C H N O L O G Y

>That mouse is not SS tier
That's up for debate, but if you think wireless is the reason for why it shouldn't be, you're retarded.

over the past 10 years ive used 2 deathadders, see no reason to change

>have to change batteries
immediatly not SS tier since you have to take a moment in which you can't play

There are other mice with the same sensor and far better weight, shape, cabling, functionality etc.

poorfag here, which mouse to get on a budget

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for me? its the non stock photo of the Zowie by BenQ EC!

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Battery lifetime of the latest wireless mice is in months.

Depends on your budget.

G 900/903 should be in SS tier. The high end Logitech mice are the same with a different shape

30$ let's say

>I'm pretty sure i sounded real smart just now i bet you have no idea what any of these are or what i'm talking about hahaha...!

Absolutely adorable.

Oh, by the way, so can you prove those parameters aren't transiently worse on say, a Naga, than an epic shooter mouse? No? Damn, user, i thought you were an expert now?

I legitimately use all 12 buttons on my mouse and I need at least 8+ for the games I play.

I use the scimitar pro and it's not the greatest since its too small for my hands but I'll keep using it until it breaks.

Logitech has several lines of lower end mice. Just pick one that fits your budget.

Using the scimitar right now why is it in f tier???

Dclaws and mace are better noob

>wireless mouse
>ss tier
no

Why don't you fags actually take pictures of the mice you own and put them into a tier list? Or are you gonna tell me you own and used every single mouse on that list?

wireless logitech

I have long pianist hands and the squared butt of the mouse has never bothered me and I only notice it exists when I happen to look at my mouse.

Nah i'd rather put a fucking wireless mouse on a pedestal and arbitrarily decry 12buttons

G203
Rival 110

All the benchmarks and tests you could possibly want are done on rocketjumpninja's channel, or any of the other top mouse testers on youtube.

By all means though, continue with your insecurities and anger, idiot. You have 0 qualifications for discussing mice, but don't let that stop you from trying to shill your shitty mouse.

>spending more than $60-70 on a mouse in 2019 for literally any reason
>doing it for wireless
Big yikes from me scooter.

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>Mom i googled attributes that a sensor has and rattled them off at random everyone will think i'm an expert on this now

There is literally no fucking way you're not under 20

>actually resorted to samefagging
Goddamn, you're actually mentally ill.

I'm still using my G400s. Has anything actually changed in mouse technology in the last eight years?

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I use a cheap $5 mouse from walmart. At no point have I lost a game because "hurr the mouse isn't good enough". Muh $300 mouse so I can win is as ridiculous a concept to me as gamer socks. Zoomers are a joke.

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I have the 903 but I wish it was a bit more comfortable to hold

>At no point have I lost a game because "hurr the mouse isn't good enough"
You wouldn't know, poorcuck.

I don't totally agree with you, but I do remember upgrading when CS:GO came out, the switch between a mouse with a laser compared to one with a ball was nightmarish

The main points of differentiation in any decent mouse made in the last ~5 years are durability, button configuration and ergonomics. Any tier list you see was undoubtedly made by some tryhard wanker on a pro gaming laptop.

>J-just use the benchmarks and tests

Excellent sidestep

Sure, it would be all too easy for an expert such as yourself to outline which minutia do what and how they affect the mice you refer to in their outperformance of the rest, but of course, i COULD just "uhh you know... just use the benchmarks and tests.." as you so wisely put it. Of course, it was so obvious. It couldn't be your actual functional lack of knowledge about what you're talking about right? Nah, not a chance no way, you're just way too "qualified". Qualified by the way, not just knowledgeable, but qualified, oh the TRAINING you must have.

Pfahaha holy fuck this can't be real, ypu're actually just fucking with me at this point, i'm convinced.

>Tranny calls someone mentally ill

Guys monday morning cartoons are on

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Truly spoken like an insecure nigger who buys expensive pointless shit because he thinks it makes him look like he's rich. You're not fooling anyone, Tyrone.

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>Muh $300 mouse so I can win
That's not why you buy a $300 mouse, but because it's more comfortable to use. Allegedly.
It's like, buying expensive running shoes won't make you run any faster, but if you're going to spend any amount of time walking outside, then good shoes are a sensible investment.

That's just a matter of finding a mouse with a shape you like. You don't necessarily have to pay $300 to find one like that.

More comfortable to fit into the anus perhaps. Heh.

It's really hard to find mice that feel good in the butt, not because they don't exist, but because they don't let me test the mice in the store. I need to buy one, try it out at home, and then come up with some excuse to return it if it doesn't fit well. So annoying.

>Flashing your life savings like that

Bro, unless you could drop that money on something no problem no loss you have no fuckin business trying to front it like it's some sort of flex, don't be gay like that

Hey, fuck you! The Crayola Optical Water Mouse is god tier.

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>live savings
>checking account
Do you even have a bank account of your own? Or are you still buying stuff with your mom's credit card and then calling people poor on the internet?

They are, but $5 is actually pretty shit. I upgraded to a $50 mouse from a bargain bin one a few years ago and the difference was glaring. And you probably don't even need to pay that much for an equivalent sensor.

>that image
What's that meant to prove, retard?

$10 mice objectively have worse sensors than top gaming mice, and you only need to spend $30-50 to get a mouse with an optimal sensor. By all means though, stay dumb.

I have my own bank account of course, but it would be an easy front to just move all of my savings to my checking account and take an epic poorfag destroying picture. Im not a fag though so i dont front like that

>ypu're
Sounds like you're getting so frustrated your fingers are starting to shake while typing.

Look idiot, it's ok. You're one of many idiots on this planet, you'll always be one, nothing you can do about it. It's not my problem you're stupid enough to believe Numpad Mice are acceptable for high level players in CSGO, even though none of the top 1000 use one. Let it keep hurting your pride.

>front
How melanin enriched are you?

UNDERRATED MOUSE: Sharkoon Skiller Drakonia
im not joking its great

Apparently 70% of Americans have less than 1k saved

Can you imagine an actual rich person posting a picture of his money on Yea Forums of all places? Like, all his peers are banging hot children on Mr. Shekelstein's pedo yacht, and he's bragging about his bank account balance on Yea Forums.

This but with the m95.

I hate how they fucking discontinued it and I'm so fucking mad.

>bumped package with water damage
CHINKED.com

Sorry, it simply isn't as good as the USB Optical Duck Mouse.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMVckPIt_k

Is your point here that no one who isn't a poorfag browses Yea Forums because they're too busy fucking lolis, or that you should be able to just call people with more sense than you poor without getting BTFO because it's not fair?

Based. I do this all the time, mostly for refreshing Yea Forums

I think it might be time to clean my mouse again.

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>"Y-YOU MADE A TYPO! H-HAHA, I FINALLY GOT HIM!"

I pray you are in fact someone who doesn't get the opportunity to flagrantly unleash your autism in a real verbal altercation. Talking to people is clearly not for you.

>Idiot idiot idiot and umm maybe i'll type idiot a few more times and tell him he's wrong
>This is it, magnum opus, i finally have him

Not an argument. But then again you clearly gave up a while ago, i've already broken you so thoroughly you can only repeat one word now. Anyway, bark, sit, play fetch, call me "idiot" a few more times.

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>but it would be an easy front to just move all of my savings to my checking account and take an epic poorfag destroying picture
do it

Mionix Naos. Got it for 20 euros, sensor is 3310 and it's good enough for my purposes.

I'm about as melanin enriched as you are anus-expanded you gay

Give it a week, and don't eat the dirt disk. You'll get rheumatoid arthritis.

>he's still going
You might want to visit a psychiatrist dude.
You're getting this upset over mice, to the point you even samefagged in desperation. You are seriously not right in the head, idiot.

Where does the G300s fall into?

Bark. Sit, fetch

>calls me gay, implying that I actually am anus expanded
>which means he actually is melanin enriched
This guy just admitted to being a NIGGER!
NIGGER!

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I sometimes forget that Benq (zowie) and Logitech are memed to get idiots to buy mediocre mouses. To the point where someone actually spent their time making an image for it.

I have a razer naga and I feel fine, fuck you

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>502
It's a nice shape, and good for everything but competitive FPS games.

What are you implying i am an N word you crackor

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Sounds like you're insecure about your own shitty mouse.

Weird how the Lancehead TE, which several companies copied, is in anything but S tier. With the best sensor on the market. FM most recent mouse was a 1to1 copy of the sensor and shape, but without LED and honeycombs to remove weight.

I wonder why anyone would make a list when they clearly have never used most of these.

This one isn't weak to rock type wojak you fool, accept defeat

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>Razer
Guaranteed short lifespan. Also it has a flawed shape.

Sorry, you're not going to get the purchase validation you were after. S tier? Fucking lmao.

Arbitrary pokemon references now? As if we need more evidence you're a deranged sperglord. Take your meds moron, but stay out of mouse discussion threads because you clearly don't know shit.

>Wireless mouse technology is finally only the level of wires
And it only took 15 years

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Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, >>>/reddit/ is two blocks down

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It's more that if you gotta brag about your wealth, it's pretty pathetic if you don't have a better place than this to do it.

Reiinapop

get a load of this poorfag

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well would you prefer if it never did

No see, if I had just brought it up for no reason, that'd be bragging. He specifically called me poor because I said he's a retarded zoomer. One of these was provable to the contrary.
Cope harder.

>latency
no
>paying extra
negligible
>charge mouse
Yes, it becomes a wired mouse for a few hours until it's charged. How is this worse than a wired mouse?

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What's even the point of a wireless mouse?
Even if you pretend that technology has reached a point where it's completely equal in every other way to a wired one, how exactly do you benefit from it being wireless? Are you playing games from 20 feet away?

My MX518 has been going strong for over 10 years. Cleaned it out the other day for the first time ever and there was only the tiniest amount of dust under the scroll wheel.

>Reddit nigger posts literal reddit meme that are only used by reddit
Kys

fucking poorfags I swear

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I use a wireless mouse when I tab my porn over to my TV and fap on my couch. Otherwise I use a Logitech B100.

>"You don't know shit even though i've constantly ousted myself as a clueless dipshit at every turn."

You've demonstrated that you know absolutely nothing about mice but nonetheless you insist on implying that you do, and are trying to bullshit your way into, somehow, still dying on a hill you should have left a long time ago. You actually write and come off like an obstinate high schooler. You need to learn to stop digging your hole deeper and sit the fuck down. You are a complete retard, you have no friends, you're high in melanin, high in chromosomes, and low in IQ, but you just cannot cope. But by all means deflect with impotent ad hominem instead of actually contesting me on literally anything, because we both know you can't, and your sophomore-complex ass wont let you do anything else. There's not a bone left to break in you, the only option i have right now is to fucking bury you every time you reply until something not absolutely, dumbfoundingly retarded comes out of you. Which, let's be honest, won't happen.

>n-no see! you are the redditor not me, r-right fellow reddi- I mean 4channelers!
Sorry kid, we're taking our website back.

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>no logitech m500
disgusting list

>spending more than 5 minutes a day watching porn
Gamer. Imagine how much more productive you would be if you weren't fapping on your couch.

>You've demonstrated that you know absolutely nothing about mice
I guess when you're desperate, you have to project your own ignorance onto the people you're arguing with.

You've proven you know nothing about sensors, nothing about professional use, nothing about practicality, nothing. You're a completely worthless moron.

Love you my man

>Replaced my Rival 310 with G502 last week
JUST

Imagine how much more productive you'd be if you didn't watch porn, play videogames, shitpost on Yea Forums, or generally had fun at all and instead just went to work, went home, went to sleep, and then rinse and repeat.

>Even if you pretend that technology has reached a point where it's completely equal in every other way to a wired one
This sentence alone proves you're retarded and in denial.

>What's even the point of a wireless mouse?
By the same logic, what's the point of cable management inside a PC?

'Scuse me folks, GOAT mouse coming through

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The G502 is fine for multi-purpose use, and one of the best mice for browsing thanks to the hyper scroll wheel. If you play FPS games, then there were definitely better choices.

I use a Razer Naga trinity, being able to hotswap between a 12-key for MMO's, a 7-button radial for action games, and a generic 2-button mouse for web browsing is pretty comfy.

>ask a simple question
>this guy gets defensive over it
Jesus christ dude
Do you really have so little going on in your life that you lash out like this over a mouse discussion?

>wireless mouse
>the very highest tier
Did you get kicked off of /g/ and now you're peddling shit here?

Next time don't make a fool of yourself by suggesting we're "pretending" wireless technology is equal to wired.

How does the g502 feel in your hand compared to the 310?

>what's the point of cable management inside a PC?
Air flow, supposedly, but it doesn't really even matter for that most of the time.

Okay bro, calm down. Calm down bro. It's okay. Take a deep breath. I'm sure it's just as good.

99% of /g/ will actually tell you top wireless mice suffer no latency issues. The only people still in denial are retards like yourself.

>Clicking simulates the sound and force needed to break glass
It's like I'm really back in middleschool "computer class" hiding in the back and playing flash games instead of learning how to touch type.

Actually, the main reason is to make it easier to make future modifications, where you don't have to sort through a mess of cords.

Wireless Mice mean one less cable on the desk.

I'm using one right now and its quiet as a church mouse

>Literally every person being paid to shill products is using this specific product
Now you're going to tell me all F1 drivers have marb reds on the side of their car, so they're obviously the AA tier cigarette.

99% of /g/ will tell you it's sensor is shit and it's buttons wear out in as little as a year.

It's not great but it works out.

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G403 wireless, no lag, week of battery life. Perfect step up from my old g400s

99% of /g/ actually knows the specs and knows either of those aren't true instead of making shit up.

FOR ME IT'S THE NIXEUS REVEL!!!!!!!!!

>If i call him names it will substantiate everything i just said
>That *entire* post

Sigh, just sigh. Look, it's clear to me you've been broken so thoroughly you can't say anything else or pretend to be anything but a coping, deluded madman. Any reason or intelligence you may have had has long since been busted, along with your ego.

I'll tell you what, someday, you will graduate, and then you will be humbled, much like you have just been, by me. Someday, mommy won't be able to protect you from people like me and neither will she be able to buy you the diapers that do so when she can't. And at that time, you will come to understand.

The fact is, i am no longer in school, i do not have unlimited free time like you. If i gave you the opportunity, you would shout obscenities and make a clown of yourself until this thread 404s, because you are a legitimate, medically diagnosed autist, and you have the time. I must go now, since i am not as unfortunate as you. But try to learn from this regal ass-beating i gave you, next time beware that the pseud act works on no one. You will most certainly reply to this post after i've left, but the only advice i can give you to the question you will ask with that reply, namely, the question of how you can avoid the worst fate known to man, being you, can be avoided. And to that all i can say is that you should avoid killing yourself, or shooting up your school, both of which i know you will be tempted to do. But do not despair and do those things, and you may survive to a better life. Good day. Try not to stay up too late if you want to be healthy grow to at least 5'6" by the time you get that diploma.

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I modify my computer rarely enough that there certainly wouldn't be any point in positioning the cables specifically for that.
I mostly tried to tuck them out of the way because it looked neater, even if I'm the only one who will ever see.

>ignore all criticism
>consume product

no it's more like using the same car the driver uses

Where's the g900?????

>99% of /g/ will tell you it's sensor is shit
No they won't retard. The Hero sensor is currently the best on the market.

>criticism
>preconceived notions from 2012 that you only believe because you saw it on an image on Yea Forums

>The only reason to get a mouse with 5 million buttons is if you're an MMO tranny.

I'm playing on a naga because I can only use one hand for gaming. Those buttons come in handy in my case.

>if it has lights or an interesting design it’s bad
>if it’s plain black or solid and looks boring it’s good

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Without memen, can somebody actually explain what is so bad about the razor naga and its variants? Other than it being a razor? I've used one forever.

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G500 has built-in acceleration, it was already ruined.

Imagine hating a mouse because you can't use all the functions it offers.

Scimitar all the way

LEDs

Macropad = More unnecessary weight. Most good FPS players in 2019 won't use a mouse above 90g.
Macropad also makes for a worse grip/shape. Zowie is famous for their god tier comfort curves on the sides, something you can't achieve if you're accommodating a wall of buttons.
More buttons also generally means worse sensor. Shit like the Naga isn't marketed towards FPS players, which means Razer is happy to cut costs on the sensor.

>Trackball not god-tier?
The fuck is wrong with you people? I used to dominate TF2 with an old Logitech trackball wired mouse. Haven't tried the MX shown in the chart though.

I have to deal with razer mamba tournament edition's z axis bug :(

are gamers really so fucking weak and sickly that they can’t handle a triple digit gram mouse. lmfao.

Imagine having that little money lmao

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Id jest werks xDDDD

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I was gonna laugh, but then it occurred to me that I used to post my Blockfolio full of shitcoins on /biz/ with are worth about the same as that picture.

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It felt a bit weird to lift, I think because of the shape of where I place my thumb, but I got used to it real fast. It's nice now.

Just letting everyone know that OP is fron reddit. When we clearly had a clear understanding that the Intellimouse is SS tier. We had this discussion since 2007. Dont know why OP made a tier list when the one we used was the definitive list.
>pic related
The penultimate of all mouses

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What do I use if I've got big hands? The EC2-A ended up being too goddamn small.

I have G Pro in the mail should I get the wireless charging mousepad too?

Seriously, why are all you faggots so stuck in the past?

Low-skill retards like yourself aren't qualified to discuss the matter. Quake is a game that requires a lot of hand dexterity, and a 40g difference can make a huge difference when rocket jumping several times in succession.

my gf

Does G903 go in S tier along w the others? Shit's mint

I wrote the IEEE 802.11 standards?

corsair scimitar users here.

I play mmos. so eat shit

I'm sure you didn't.

>40g difference can make a huge difference
maybe to someone who’s never worked out a day in their life.
seriously. how fucking unhealthy are you people that

Oh okay so why are they saying it's my word?
I';m just telling people how wireless works, they can reference benchmarks or whatever shilling bullshit they want. Until they come out with a new wireless standard though they should probably just shut the fuck up. That's what i'd do if I didn't work in the industry, i'd probably just shut the fuck up.

I can see your dress in the reflection of the trackball, tranny.

obsessed.
rent free.

>catandmouse.jpg

I got this mouse for playing MMO's after using another like it years ago; to me it's faster than pressing the numbers on a keyboard and the buttons let me quickly scroll pages.
I don't use the high DPI though, around 2000 out of 16400 with my screen size. It collects dead skin and keratin on the sides so needs regular wiping.
I took all the weights out so it doesn't drag as much; overall a good mouse for general tasks or MMO and games using number keys.

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Drink water.

Have sex.

dilate?
im not sure what comes next but i figured i'd help out.

Basilisk should be higher imo, great feel and DPI clutch actually comes in handy if you know what you're doing

What is so bad about the Deathadder? I've used them for years. Aside from the glue on the rubber pads turning into goo, at least.

I'm gonna buy a Roccat Kone EMP, somebody stop me.

So I should just get a G403 if I want an overall mouse? I play everything so I need something that works for everything.

>F tier
My naga is alive after 9 years and still kicking

Buttons get worn down quite fast, shitty scroll wheel, limited customization. I had one and it didn't serve me well. Came with broken LEDs when in shipped

I have a cheaper rubber version of that kind of thing. I love it and don't know how I ever got my without one.

>deathadder that low
it's one of the best mice on the market, despite everything else from razer being hot garbage

>please introduce input lag and limited battery life to my controls!
yeah, no

my naga is the peripheral I had the longest. I still have it, I bought the first version in 2009

fuck OP

Again retard, you're in no position to make an assessment. You don't understand anything about hand dexterity, or how muscle affects it.

How much indisputable evidence do wirecucks need before they can face the truth?

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The best mouse is a $3 bulk-ordered office mouse swiped from your work's supply closet. Nothing else will compare.

>please introduce input lag

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>im an orthopaedic surgeon now because i use gamer mice to play my pc games!
yea, no. anyone can tell you that if a few grams ruins your ability to play a game, you need to get off the games and get in the gym.

It's evolving.

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>durr I post reaction pngs instead of arguments doy

Yea, it's really a hit or miss mouse. For me it's perfect to hold.

Again idiot, you're a low level player, you're not in any position to make calls on this. You have 0 understanding on how muscle affects hand dexterity.

it's ss tier. It's the same mouse as the G pro but just in a different shape

yeah "she" is pig disgusting honestly

that's what i thought

>wireless has a quicker response time than a physical connection
Holy fucking shit I bet you guys think gaming wireless card is faster than ethernet. Fucking sheep.

a few dozen grams does not affect “”hand dexterity”” in the least. unless you’re ill.

Nobody said it's quicker you moron.

There's no difference in real world benchmarks, as much as that upsets you.

Can anyone recommend which mouse to get where your palm and index finger are as close as possible to the table? So a small mouse with good optics and low profile/thickness

>a few dozen grams does not affect “”hand dexterity”” in the least. unless you’re ill.
Mindlessly claiming the contrary is not an argument, but braindead idiots like yourself don't know any better.

>There's no difference in real world benchmarks
Yes, there is. Wired universally gives a 10-100x faster response than wireless.

>mx ergo in F
lmao

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whatever makes you feel better. keep weighing your mice and buying overpriced gamer gear while i actually play video games and win more tourneys.

>Yes, there is.
Notice how you say this, without actually providing a benchmark yourself. Instead, you go on to make a mindless, uninformed claim:
>Wired universally gives a 10-100x faster response than wireless.
In other words, you're a complete idiot, who can't offer anything but worthless input.

>win more tourneys.
Dream about winning them*
Let's face it, you're a complete garbage player, and you're basically arguing with all of the top 1000 CSGO and Quake players in the world, all of whom will tell you lighter mouse = better performance.
The reality is, you're just a moron who bought a heavy mouse, and upon hearing someone claim lighter mice are generally better, your first instinct is trying desperately to rationalize your purchase. Such is the extend of your stupidity.

I'm in retard tier with laptop trackpad.

Got the Razer Viper and it sucked ass. Mouse3 broke within a couple of months.

whoooole lotta projection there. face it, you bought an expensive gamer mouse and are trash anyways. a $10 best buy mouse is literally better than most of that overpriced garbage. stop falling for marketing.

>repeating yourself like a broken record
So you admit defeat. Good, moving on.

Well, that's a lie.

>announcing yourself as the 4channel winner
so THIS is the power of 0.02 gram gamer mice

numpad mice are fucking awesome for games like MWO

i can easily fire different weapons instead of doing finger yoga across my keyboard.

I hate that the wired one I had broke and that they only really make wireless ones these days. Other than that I haven't used a regular mouse in years

I bought and held ARK, ADA, and NANO. Link of all coins is the only one in the green for me, what a timeline we're in.

whats wrong with razer?

99% of /g/ don't actually use wireless mice for input sensitive tasks like VIDEO GAMES. They don't know shit.

Why do people love this piece of shit so much?

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Ok so first it was "did /g/ kick you out?" and now it's "/g/ doesn't know shit".

Ok retard, and by all means, keep turning a blind eye to the real world benchmarks showing no difference whatsoever, and all the pros who use wireless mice.

CoolerMaster MM530

I'm not the same person dude, but what is acceptable for /g/ standards of use isn't the same for gaming. Wireless mice still have latency albeit that latency can still be really small they still have latency though most wireless mice these days are running on 2.4Ghz frequency or Bluetooth instead of 27Mhz like the old ones but even still Bluetooth and 2.4Ghz mice still have issues as well. Sometimes these devices will just straight up shit itself and stop responding due to wireless interference which is not what you want in the middle of a game. That shit doesn't matter anywhere else though.

>Wireless
>SS tier
Hahahaha no. I'm not introducing input lag and wireless interference as a factor into my VIDEO GAMES.

It was a different time.

>fixed 800 dpi
This is incorrect. Mine also lived like a decade, still lives but i've got a g403 now.

Is Razor Abyssus any good? Found one for 10 yurobucks and I'm tempted.
Wireless a shit

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Actually got a Model O today and first impressions are really positive. Aside from the hardware, which is good as expected I like that I was able to set it up via the software and then ditch the software entirely. Synapse 3 has made me write of Razer peripherals entirely.

Look scrub, whatever their latency is isn't noticeable to the human eye, as much as you want to believe your reactions are lightning. 31% of CSGO pros use the G.Pro Wireless alone, and before you say ">m-muh sponsors", if there was even the slightest bit of latency, they wouldn't use it, they'd use some other wired mouse from the same company instead.

The latency isn't even noticeable in 1000fps slowmo, let alone in a game playing at a 144Hz refresh rate. If you think wireless latency makes a difference, you're fucking stupid.

Are there more guides like this one?

not him but much better sensors than office tier mice, shorter response time, extra buttons and options to program macros/functions to some of the buttons, more clicks through the product's lifetime
to name just a few

Probably, but that's the only one I have.

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How do you feel about the Zowie FK2?

>Look scrub, whatever their latency is isn't noticeable to the human eye, as much as you want to believe your reactions are lightning. 31% of CSGO pros use the G.Pro Wireless alone, and before you say ">m-muh sponsors", if there was even the slightest bit of latency, they wouldn't use it, they'd use some other wired mouse from the same company instead.

Cool story bro, I already said that that the latency is very small in modern wireless mice but it still exists but you acted like I somehow never mentioned that and then argued like I had a different position otherwise. I also like how you conveniently ignored my points about the fact that wireless interference still exists and never addressed or considered it.

If you're talking about actual LAN competitions for CSGO where not only do they use it because of sponsors but also the fact that those setups have to be specially isolated from wireless interference. No sponsor is ever going to admit fault with their product to the point that their alternative product is better than the most. The G.Pro wireless signal strength is 4dBm, which is basically the same as Class 2 Bluetooth, which is rated at 10 meters range. You can bet if you brought in enough wireless devices within that same range trying to connect to the same computer you can bet those mice will have erratic issues and even drop signals at points. There's a reason why any tournament events using wireless mice/keyboards have to have a massive clear zone to prevent interference.

>The latency isn't even noticeable in 1000fps slowmo, let alone in a game playing at a 144Hz refresh rate. If you think wireless latency makes a difference, you're fucking stupid.

The issue isn't latency alone, it's introducing points of failure to an area where originally there was none. Wireless mice still have to consider latency, interference, input response and signal strength, that is four points of possible avenues of failure where a wired mice would not have any.

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>being this desperate to rationalize a wired purchase

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Why the fuck does your chart not have any Steelseries on it? You're giving a Razer mouse an "A+" but no mention of any Steelseries? The fuck? Is this a Twitch thing?

How does it feel to be retarded?

Well I can see you're clearly a moron that knows jack shit about wireless device technology and interactions and has no rebuttal to the points made.

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I'm thinking it's a zoomer thing.

There's no need to argue anything, there's no input delay whatsoever among the literal millions of people who use the G.Pro Wireless, even in high level play. You're just a bitter little idiot who can't move with the times.

I'd actually consider the Sensei in my top 10. Did you fiddle with the settings at all?

Kinzu was/is a beautiful mouse.

As for a contemporary mouse, the Rival 600 is very nice and is my current favorite.

A4 Tech Laser Oscar Edition
Comfortable, long-lasting, cheap as shit. 20$ and it comes prepacked with everything I need. Spending over 50$ on a computer mouse is literal idiocy.

>There's no input delay
user there is ALWAYS input delay even if that input delay is like 0.03ms there is always delay, it might be miniscule but there is always a delay. Also you still don't have an argument to the fact that wireless mice are still prone to wireless interference. You simply sound like a mobile warrior that thinks all wireless is the future and doesn't have its own issues and there's never going to be a fault ever because you know things like bluetooth jammers simply don't ever exist at all ever.

youtube.com/watch?v=orhb7Njj3h8

I've said it before already, but whatever delay there is makes 0 difference on a 144HZ or even a 240Hz monitor.

At this point, you are one desperate, pathetic little idiot.

>deathadder
>d tier
ok retard stick with your basic microsoft mice

The only one who sounds desperate here is you. Quit trying to sell me your mouse, shill.

>I've said it before already, but whatever delay there is makes 0 difference on a 144HZ or even a 240Hz monitor.
Cool story bro, I never once even mentioned monitor refresh rates into my arguments of wireless devices. You still haven't given a counterpoint to the wireless interference argument that wireless mice and devices are open to. Hell it's funny you even link to Linus because at points in the video he literally talks about wireless interference differences between 2.4Ghz and bluetooth mice which you seem to ignore. You're nothing but a sad internet sheep who can't even argue his own points.

>At this point, you are one desperate, pathetic little idiot.
Well at this point you should put on some overalls and go to a farm because you sure seem like a cherry picking retard.

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>You still haven't given a counterpoint to the wireless interference argument
Because there isn't one. People use wireless mice next to their phones all the time and there's no difference, idiot.

Again, you're just trying to rationalize your purchase like the pathetic little idiot you are.

>Hell it's funny you even link to Linus because at points in the video he literally talks about wireless interference differences between 2.4Ghz and bluetooth mice
He does that for validate his benchmark, moron. It still makes no difference in real world use.

>Because there isn't one. People use wireless mice next to their phones all the time and there's no difference, idiot.
Are those phones trying to connect to the device that the same mouse is using and operating on the same bandwidth and frequency? Because I can guarantee that if even a single device does do so your mice will drop out and the more devices in the area the greater that chance increases, again this is the reason why in tournaments there's well over 15 metres distance from the competitors and anyone else using wireless devices in LAN tournaments. Welcome to wireless technology user.

At 8:30 in the video he literally shows the delay times of all the mice in ms user.

>i-it's how the technology w-works!
>i-it doesn't matter if i haven't used it o-or don't know the development process
In other words, you're an utterly worthless idiot denying every single real-time benchmark out there.

>He does that for validate his benchmark, moron. It still makes no difference in real world use.
It makes a big difference if the mice you're using is 2.4Ghz or Bluetooth. You are introducing more points of failure to an element.

>penultimate

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I've been following this argument for a while now and I don't even really know what your point is anymore. For personal use you just said it makes no difference, but there's a potential issue at tourneys which is accounted for and is apparently not a problem and has never been a problem. You could just as easily argue against wired at tourneys by saying "well the cables could get tangled!" for how much fucking difference it makes.

So in other words you don't actually know how radio frequencies and wireless signals work and can't argue the point except resort to greentext memes. I not once ever denied benchmarks or the fact that there's a difference between 27Mhz, 2.4Ghz or Bluetooth wireless devices but keep setting up that strawman to make yourself look internet cool user. I have wireless mice myself but even I know that they're prone to signal interference in particular settings.

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>It makes a big difference if the mice you're using is 2.4Ghz or Bluetooth
No it doesn't moron.
I used a cheap logitech wireless mouse for 2 years and never had problems with interference, despite a laptop and phone using 2.4GHz wifi nearby. The G.Pro Wireless is far better too.

You're just a moron who's dug himself too deep, and can't stop at this point. Keep going idiot, won't change the reality that top wireless mice have no input lag.

>So in other words you don't actually know how radio frequencies and wireless signals work
It's pretty clear you don't, idiot. After all, you're still desperately making assumptions while turning a blind eye to what works in actual practice.

Why are people on Yea Forums always so retarded about wireless? They just parrot shit they heard 5 years ago and think it's still true.
>84 hour battery life, 1 hour change time while you use it and 1 ms are somehow bad
Poorfags, or ignorant? I'm not sure which.

Point I made was that wireless mice are still prone to wireless interference where as a wired mouse is not. My original post was . The issue at tourneys is they have to set things up to reduce factors of where things can go wrong and to account for them. I said at home use it might not make any difference if you have only one or two devices but when you have a whole office or room full of them that's where things become issues.

Cool anecdotal evidence user. That totally invalidates the principles of radio frequencies, wireless networks and signals in real life. Put your mouse and phone onto the same frequency bandwith and then try to connect to your laptop, not your WiFi router but your laptop and see if you can use the devices with no conflicts or dropouts. I mean you do know how to adjust the radio frequences and bandwidth of your wireless devices right user?

It's pretty clear that i'm the only one actually posting information and knowledge about the subject and on how this shit works and you're the only one typing up general non-sequiter rhetoric while ignoring important points like it isn't an issue and never happens.

I've been using this mouth ever since the first version came out and I fucking love it. It's what I'm used to, it's my childhood/youth and the one time I tried something else - a G402 - it fucking broke because it has a giant hole where hair gets in.
Say what you will, these things are built to last and be indestructible and time has tested this premise. I also love the handling and shape.
Weight is a little bit low in the new model I guess, but I've grown used to it.

Pic related is what I use. Apedra A7 wired

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G502.
Love the mouse wheel feel. It's also the only mouse out of the last 4 (2 of which are in a higher tier) that has had the left click break on me. They always start double-clicking with a single click in under a year, no matter how well I clean them.

*blocks your mice*

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>It's pretty clear that i'm the only one actually posting information
Worthless information considering you don't even own the mouse, idiot. You have no real time benchmark to back yourself up.

I use a trackpad. Suck my cock and balls.

Who said I didn't own it or any other wireless mice user? It's literally my job to have wireless mice on hand for testing purposes.
>M-m-muh benchmarks
Cool story bro. I haven't disregarded benchmark tests at any point, you keep setting up those strawman arguments user. You haven't used any form of logic to back yourself up with anything. You could even backup a hard drive with your brain capacity.

G502 is great fuck do you mean

see

>Who said I didn't own it or any other wireless mice user?
It couldn't be more obvious judging from your all-round idiocy and assumptions.
If you don't own the tech, you don't know shit about it. Swallow your pride and move on, idiot.

>nearly 2020
>people STILL think wireless is bad
honestly should just round these luddites up and put them out of our misery

It's bad for first person shooters. Way too heavy, not a flexible shape.

Just refurbished my mx518. Works as good as new again.
*sips*

>It couldn't be more obvious judging from your all-round idiocy and assumptions.
Lol if i didn't own the tech then how do I know how many decibels the G.Pro wireless signal strength was at and what the equivalent bluetooth class range it was? Could it be simply because it's actually part of my job to know some of these things user?
>If you don't own the tech, you don't know shit about it. Swallow your pride and move on, idiot.
No i'm pretty sure I understand and dealt with more wireless devices in my lifetime son to the point that I could go to sleep for the next 50 years and you still wouldn't have acquired enough knowledge on the subject. I think the only swallowing that should have been done was by your mother because she gave birth to a grade A retard.

shut the fuck up niggers.
you aren't even caught up on wireless tech from this decade

The only idiocy is coming from you. Vendors can manufacture 2.4GHz devices less expensively than regulated spectrum like the 5GHz band. The downside to this “unregulated” band is that manufacturers use it for everything: cordless phones, baby monitors, microwaves, garage door openers, etc. 5GHz is a regulated frequency which costs manufacturers more to produce. The 2.4GHz band offers better range and handles obstacles better than 5.0GHz. 5GHz offers much faster throughput for maximum performance. It just doesn’t handle obstructions and channel noise quite as well. When there are more 2.4GHz wireless networks, the frequency channels can become crowded in some areas.

You clearly know nothing about how wireless technology works.

So you only take advice from people with suboptimal reflexes that shouldn't be playing video games in the first place?

Where does ultralight/air58 fall into this

notice how the list was made in 2013?

Any other Razer Taipan chads?

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You realize wireless mice have a plugin for wired use right?

I let Yea Forums decide what's I should buy!

g pro wireless

>he doesn't have a numpad mouse so he can quick weapon swap in minecraft and type out engineering calculations or code with his thumb while jerking his dick or eating with his left hand
All you wannabe pro-gamer counterautists can get fucked, having the same wow wow wubzie mouse that Team Washed-up-at-27 uses isn't going to make you even noticeably better.

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The razer Naga is great for mmo's and Dota. I will never abandon it.

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we put rats this low because the sensor blows the mouse is heavy and it still manages to be uncomfy despite the gimmicks.