Honest opinions about new wc3 Tyrande model and lore retcons like night elves attacking only orcs while being totally...

Honest opinions about new wc3 Tyrande model and lore retcons like night elves attacking only orcs while being totally okay with alliance?

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>lore retcons like night elves attacking only orcs while being totally okay with alliance?
nice headcanon

thats a yikes

I'm genuinely surprised they haven't covered the night elves up. Was sure they were going to have them wearing more armour.

I guess someone at Blizzard still understands one of the core pillars that got the company to where it is today.

The sorcerer got boobs reduction

>single nightelf unit that was already mostly covered revealed
>WOW I'M GENUINELY SURPRISED THEY ARENT COVERING UP THE NIGHTELVES WHAT A RELIEF I GUESS ITS SAFE TO ALL PREORDER NOW, RIGHT BROS???
faggot

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the remake looks like putrid shit and anyone who buys it is a retard

why?

Looks like shit. Her hair is green. Her cat looks like it's wearing Anub'arak.

I'm looking forward to the new sharia elves

looks great, im buying it for sure

I’m gonna buy it for a very specific custom game mode called broken alliance

The shits in this thread are just looking for something to complain about at this point. The model looks good. I cannot imagine being this rent free about hypothetical censorship. You guys practically beg it to happen because you can only thrive when you have a fictitious villain to complain about taking away pixel tits. Sad.

>OP's picture is clearly just concept art
>People ITT think its an actual model

Actual "Gamer Brains". Yikes.

Looks like shit

The original has a lot of dated references for the comedy lines for units, and some that would be "too inappropriate" for today's sensibilities, I wonder how shit the new lines will be

patrician taste

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based

its literally no different than the old model, and they better not cut out her brutal murder of that paladin

Why do you go on the internet and tell lies? You know people can just fact check

>and they better not cut out her brutal murder of that paladin
>Golden is main writer
>Alliance races doing anything wrong
>In reveal of ne they literally wrote how Tyrande is totally okay with alliance and orcs going through their forests, and attacked orcs only after they started cut trees

>When the Alliance and Horde expeditions made to Kalimdor and started going through Ashenvale, the Sentinels reported their locations to Tyrande. Tyrande, glad that they were not demons from the Burning Legion, ordered the Sentinels to observe both groups as there was a chance both groups were just going through the forest to find uncharted land to call their own. Unfortunately, the Orcs started to deforest Ashenvale, and Tyrande ordered the sentinels to attack the orcs and spare humans
>Over the course of Warcraft III, Tyrande frees Illidan from his prison and helps Jaina Proudmoore and Thrall defeat Archimonde in the Battle for Mount Hyjal.

Why is she wearing pants

because without leather pants your legs would be incredibly chafed and fucked up from riding that fuckin cat.

>9 months later
>same blizzcon demo and 3 "new" pieces of concept art
so this shit just aint ever coming out i guess

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oh man its been years, I don't remember this part, got a link where I revisit this scene?

>Tyrande is totally okay with alliance and orcs going through their forests, and attacked orcs only after they started cut trees
>not only retcons
>retcons that dont even make sense when your husband literally shits entire groves for kicks
wew

sorceress still is hot though.

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i'm fine with the models, and probably not a lot of the lore will change since you can still use the old dialogues.

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>model almost is perfect
>horn on the staff
WHY

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atonidas' staff that drops from icecrown citadel in WoW has horns on it

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It's not really a scene, you just kill their paladin hero in the first night elf mission. It was extremely fucked up because the orcs and humans were in a temporary alliance to kill demons.

>someone
Look at the upper left corner of Ops image

What the fuck that hammer is way too big

I think I remember that one.

>it's literally no different
>has unnecessary armor added on
Why do retards do this?

I hope this kusoge doesn't kill WC3

It probably won't.

>I can sense that the demons are making a return
>oh, look these intruders are talkimg about how they only teamed up together to fight the demons
>better kill them all

Based purple Grom

Sir please calm down your autism.

Soul vs no soul. I'm glad custom maps will be beautiful and "old" WC3 can crossplay with both custom games and ladder. The unit models really clash with the minimally detailed environment.

Yeah and right after tyrande and her band of thugs kill duke lionheart and destroyed the base's defenses the survivors get overrun by undead and the legion.

They nerfed her breasts though.

>blue yoga pants
yeah, that's how i remember 2002

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Making her armor, bowstring and tiger's armor all the same color is stupid.

>I can sense that the demons are making a return
She doesn't say that

every single patch of color on old models was deliberate in both in size and placement to make it readable from top down as an RTS unit.
the new models are being designed by people used to designing wow assets so they're just coloring in "where it fits" on armor they've designed. as a result the new units are far less readable when moving, in masses, or both

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I've never seen a truer example of soul vs no soul

If you have a CD key of the original version you can play custom games right now, you don't need Reforged.
Believe it or not the lobbies have been semi-revitalized.

why did they change the models and animations so much

Because it's a "remaster".
Considering it uses the same underlying codebase as the original and they want to keep parity with the original version, they can't really add any new gameplay features. The biggest changes are the visuals and the remade single-player campaign.

>yoga pants
How is Yea Forums so dumb?

If they redo the unit voice lines and/or remove any of the joke lines it's fucking shit

noone except people at blizzard can say for sure but most likely
a)10s of millions of people played world of warcraft who never touched wc3, and the new designs are to try and lure those people in to playing a RTS (it's assumed actual wc3 fans will buy regardless)
b)china (blizzard has been building a file for a decade about "what does well in china")

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>footman looks like a PULLDROONS retard armor
>terrible grunt
We're screwed. Fuck off Blizzard!

Let me guess, Sylvanas and Arthas look like they do in the Warbringers flashback in BFA?

She looks the same in WoW and HotS, it's gonna be how her model looks.

oh, also
c) to all the wow people they're trying to convent, RTS player issues are probably bottom priority.
"unit readability" doesnt matter for someone who's never touched an rts before and is just going to ctrl+a across the map and then take hands off the mouse and keyboard while the army men fight.
if this armor and proportions are worse for gameplay, but look better in cutscenes (for someone who only knows these units from wow) theyre going to favor the later

I was already convinced it was going to be shit from the get go simply due to three things:
-Nobody who worked on WC3 is working on this. They might not even be.. Working at Blizzard anymore??
-It's being outsourced to I think some Chinese team? It isn't even, like, the HOTS team who I think would have done an AMAZING job.
-They refused to do it in their HOTS engine and like a bunch of stubborn fucking uninspired retards: chose to do it in the WC3 engine.... So it just looks, fucking weird. It looks bad.

I DO really appreciate all the quality of life updates WC3 has received though. Before the news and the updates hit WC3 online was a fucking mess and a wasteland of bots, but now custom games are easy to host, they're getting constant attention, and the game has a decent level of activity once more. It really is fantastic.
If you missed out on WC3 custom games I'd highly recommend you get on them now- lots of people are back and the community is fuckin' poppin'.

I'm also kind of morbidly curious to see what they change or add for that matter.
They said they'd be retroactively making "WoW Canon" changes to the story and dialogue which is incredibly fucking ominous, but I'm.. So fucking curious.

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Wait so is this going to have battle.net shit and custom games? I'd legit buy this JUST to play HD kodo tag and HD heaven vs hell

Imagine the smell of puss on that saddle

The only good thing that can come out of this remake is them making this scene an actual fucking cg cutscene youtube.com/watch?v=eB82pF_64mw

It's going to have custom shit or fans will just make it, also all their games use Battle.net.
Having you getting laid, that'd be wild.

Give me mana

It shares the same servers as the original.

Watch them actually fuck up the amazing cutscenes WC3 had like youtube.com/watch?v=TliKWcepbAk by redoing them in their shitty artstyle

Watch them just not fucking do that despite having the time and resources to do so because in their infinite fucking customer-delusion they think the fans want it kept "that way".

its gonna have custom games in some form or another. the problem is in SC:BW remaster they said they weren't going to touch custom maps and they managed to fuck them up. WC3 remaster they specifically said they WERE going to go in and "improve" things so its totally up in the air to what degree they're going to fuck things up and break existing maps. of those maps whos going to have the time/patience/desire to go in and fix everything.
also if blizzard tries to pull another sc2 we know whats best for the custom maps scene :^)
just sign all rights of your map over when you upload to the blizzard™ custom map lobby service

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>Not barefoot.
Not even gonna pirate.

they said all the CGi cutscenes beside the Intro will stay, just in HD.

why does it feel like I'm looking at a korean mmorpg?

What's this meme in modern artwork of avoiding blacks? Contrast is one of the best things in art.

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Yes, there will probably be a huge revival of custom maps. They have said that 99% of all old maps will work in the new version with updated graphics and everything. Not to mention that they updated the world editor A LOT to make it able to do all sorts of crazy new shit.

Here's a video from some asian convention where they had a map editor competition, it should show you what the new world editor is capable of - youtube.com/watch?v=DHoEkXyjQWA

that looks pretty awesome. when the fuck is this shit launching?

All the art I've seen from it looks like it belongs in one of those games that the ads look like porn but its actually some shitty base building mobile game.

considering night elves have been constantly shat on since vanilla wow there's only one thing to say: FUCK BLIZZARD

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You guys think Tyrande is still just gonna murder a bunch of innocent prison guards?

>when the fuck is this shit launching?
Blizzcon is in November, they'll probably announce a release date there. I'm guessing sometime mid-2020.

No

>contrast
moral relativists do not believe in contrast or context. they'd rather censor shit instead

>they updated the world editor
>They have said that 99% of all old maps will work in the new version

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they already broke like 90% of all the old maps with patches 1.23 to 1.24d - so are they saying 99% of the remaining 10%?

these look good though

>there will probably be a huge revival of custom maps.
source: the company that gave us the SC2 custom map scene

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They only said an old maps will work if it only uses the original models.

old models/new models don't matter.
blizzard is not an authority on what changes to their editor will or will not break.

That looks cooler than most WoW warlock sets.

Predicting that Nathanos makes a human appearance and you kill him in a Scourge stage.

Who the fuck is nathanos, i never understood this. Is he some fuck heads self insert?

hes been around since vanilla you retard

I miss old blizzard

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Wow lore is not only inconsistent it doesn't even follow the events of WC3 properly. I don't play horde niggers either

I don't know what any of that has to do with Nathanos being around sine Vanilla.

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>lore retcons like night elves attacking only orcs while being totally okay with alliance?
What the fuck? That's retarded if true.

I bought this book over 9 years ago.

I still haven't played it to this day despite wanting to when I first got it.

He was an elite quest mob for alliance players.
His survival post classic is literally explained as "haha I was only prentending to be dead/I escaped eveey time!"
He is and always was coldsteel

>Is he some fuck heads self insert?
Yes. Completely unimportant NPC that was used for one quest back in Vanilla, which was suddenly resurrected and retconned because some fuckwad at Blizzard wanted a self-insert so he could roleplay that he's a servant of Sylvanas. Pic related.

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That type of design was only necessary because you were playing at 640x480 at 22 FPS. You're retarded if you think the new units aren't readable at 1080p 60 FPS.

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Based retard, readability has nothing to do with resolution or fps. There's a reason why TF2's classes are much more easily identifiable in the middle of a battle than overwatch's trash designs.

?????????????????

It was said years before Danuser did anything that Nathanos was personally inducted as the only human ranger lord by Sylvanas against the wishes of basically the entire rest of Quel'Thalas.

WOW is not wc3, mounted units were never to scale

So he's a gary stu too

look at all that passion. Good times.

>Nathanos was always irrelevant and worthless so him being important is self-inserting
>Actually he was always important
>So he's a gary stu too!
The two points contradict each other retard.

one part of me thinks its because they only had a few polygons to work with that the books looked so massive. the other part of me knows nublizz is cucked to the core.

Not when this literally random character also happens to be a snowflake.

blacks fuck up your model very clearly, sucking up all detail

Are those... pants?

It's not a remake, it even has cross play with the original.

>literally random
>there since vanilla wow, where he was a quest raid boss
Fuck off.

>quest raid boss
>Hey go kill this random alliance guy who got turned into a forsaken

>there's an undead at this alliance hero's house, it kills anyone who comes near
>oh shit, it IS that alliance hero, go kill him
>literally need to form a raid to down him
You're such a retard.

So you need to form a raid to kill a literal who because he's a snowflake insert character. Got it.

Well that doesn't contradict the fact that he is a quest raid boss

WoW 2 when?

Looks like some students mock up. I hate Blizzards fetish for massive armour, the soldier looks retarded.

Not him but think for a second. There a nearly hundred similiar quest bosses that require you to get 2, 5 or even 10 people to down them. Sure people remember Hogger because muh memes and first elite mob for new players to encouter making him newbie killer. But nathanos? He's one of those 100 andom elite mobs that you kill, get loot and q completed and never give a fuck again about it. Same with every xpac having name mob to kill once for quest completion

And suddenly muh random becomes a fucking donutsteel snowflake that shittalks everyone around like some big lore figure from wc1-3, being a always angry fucktard shittalking people that could wipe floor with him, player character included
A literal self-insert thats only alive because he's some banshee favorite pet. Without ehr he's just a fodder

Really? I had no idea where he popped up from with his new model.

The remake is being done by an all new team who are WoWbabs, not even genuine ones, they started with MoP and think that's what Warcraft should be, they never played the RTS games until they got the task to remake 3, although I feel like they haven't played it even then.

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see Everything is being redone with WoW VAs and they already mentioned they'll be removing some of the more "questionable" voice lines

Jaina got plenty of attention in Warcraft 3, both RoC and TFT. Half of the Undead campaign in TFT is Sylvanas, she gets a ton of focus.
I'm not sure what more they would do with Jaina. Maybe give her a solo mission? But that would mess with the story's pacing.

It's being taught in art schools now, that black shading is universally bad, despite tons of great artstyles emerging from the practice.

It's cause of the WoW staff from WotLK,

To be honest they reflect the in game cinematic pretty well. they were always over the top.

>Lorefags triggered
>artfags triggered
Meanwhile, we Gem TD fags

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>artstyle trashed for wowshit
i hate the mount armor, the wow armor and weapons as well, and of course huge pauldrons for the epic jokes. just fuck my shit up.

Quite the contrary, the bigger the resolution the smaller shit is gonna look and the greater will be the need for readability.

Its the lowest level human unit and it has massive ultra knight armor.

I love WC3. Will buy, dont care what Yea Forums says

LUXURY

for the longest time i thought that the tiger was the hero and the elf on top is just some random archer

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games get revitalized because hype. Before dark souls 3 you could get on 1 or 2 on any platform and find people to play against. Those servers will die down a lot after reforged.

Right there with you, if I don't like it I'll go back to the game I've been playing for over a decade already. New campaign layouts makes me wanna try it even if it does chap my ass they're screwing with WC3 lore and design by doing it

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based

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Blood elves were made for BOC (big orc cock)

basado y rojopilled

You're goddamn right. I'm fucking excited.

>Those servers will die down a lot after reforged
No shit. That applies to every single multiplayer game on the planet. People always eventually get bored.

>12 years old
>Fire up the world editor and place every non hero slut in the game in one place and set hp to 1
>Roll in a meat wagon and blow them all to bits of gooey soup and bones
My penis didn't understand what it was doing then but I sure do now. Reliving that shit in HD with updated slut models

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The first introduction of the night elves in WC3 was the map where you had to collect lumber as Grom. Purple orcs and shit. I don't know if the EXPANDED UNIVERSE says otherwise but that sounds correct to me. Thrall teams the Horde up with Jaina so that Paladin that gets murked is still a part of a lumber harvesting operation. They were collecting resources for the confrontation with Archimonde

Malfurion wasn't awakened till after they started cutting shit down. She was pissed because she wasn't going to wake him up after 10,000 years just to heal for a small fraction of the forest.

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Hes some random npc frop vanilla hijacked by the fat writer as his selfinsert.
Dude is so powerful that he btfo Tyrande and Malfurion on his own while being smug

and I'm not talking normal Tyrande and Malfurion
I'm talking Ulltra Instinct Nightwarrior Tyrande Purple and Apex Archdruid Arctic Ninja Malfurion

It's better to have at least one Horde biased writer than none

Im buying, stay mad. The old models look like dogshit my dude. I bet you think Atari 2600 games look good too fag. Next time I take a shit ill send you a pic so you can be in awe, because apparantly thats the kind of taste you have lmao.

WC3 was so dumb, it ruined so much of the series.

Story is weird. It gets better with tft. Characters are great though.

I just hope the remodeled doodads stay this iconic for the sake of Gem TD and other custom games.

Looks pretty hot.

It looks like fucking dogshit.
fucking zoomers thinking More polygons = good.

it's always been taught, and for good reason- if you add black to your paint palette to darken your hues, you end up fucking up the chroma and it ends up looking dull and lifeless (aka like shit)

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>hots engine
Why talk about things u clearly have no clue about
Hots engine = modified sc2 engine
No reason to go trhu all that hassle of porting when they can just modify wc3 engine
Plus they are making it compatible with classic wc3 so another engine is out of question.
It also looks better than hots if they manage to tone down chink art style of some units.

Bad

haha epic

>christie golden does the WC3 reforged story and lore

fuck everything

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>Completely unimportant NPC that was used for one quest back in Vanilla
based nostbabby

>Plus they are making it compatible with classic wc3 so another engine is out of question.
My main issue isn't the graphics, but the physic limitations. I really, really fucking hope they would improve the physics, pathfinding, AI, etc.
This is what Wc3 needs more than anything.
And as a side note : With a good modtool upgrade, LoL or Dota 2 would have never existed.

They're going to make ThrallxJaina super canon

If you're painting or blending colors, sure, but don't act like black shading doesn't have its uses or a history of iconic styles in comics/cartoons/pulp art etc. Harsh black shadows can be used to imply a certain edginess, which Blizzard was built on. Not every highlight needs to be warm and not every shadows needs to be cold, things just end up looking samey, what Yea Forums likes to call "Tumblr artstyle".

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Everybody has already mentioned how you are retarded, but really, look at sc2 design, they are meant to be readable from above more than anything, then have some details to look good.

>The dammed stand ready

This is the first good looking thing to come out of blizzard since they killed based HOTS

>Tfw they're gonna set up every characters personality based on WoW events or chronicle

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readability isn't about resolution and FPS. The game could have 600k resolution and each individual footman could have a legible nametag on their underwear explaining that they're a footman and their entire lifestory and it wouldn't matter because readability is about the speed at which you can process information. The old size and placement of the color patches was deliberate to make large groups of footmen easier to read from RTS camera angles. the new ones weren't.

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Its going to be the epitome of soulless.
>most of the voice acting will be replaced with WoW "talent"
>dialog will be changed just like the story because of feminist lead writer
>the artstyle change is jarring and looks horrendous to the eyes of anyone who is not a zoomer who gets easily impressed by "HD remakes"
>probably will have some form of MTX
>music will probably be remade
>retconning all the zones to be wow-like instead of how it was originally intended in the concept art

>thrall wife is going to be cucked
haha i hope they make a little human orc hybrid

>Maybe give her a solo mission?
Well they could make a mission where she gathers people to travel with her to Kalimdor.

Having been a fairly central part of an active clan for 5-6 years now, and having talked with literally hundreds of people about reforged. I can with some confidence say the people who care about campaign or remodels, retcons or whatever the fuck are so hilariously few in number. the only thing that matters is making sure they dont fuck up the map editor. custom maps always were and always will be what makes wc3 great.

These looks so chinese made, Blizz should just say the remake was made my NetEase

Of course it is, it looks better when viewed from a top down perspective at a distance that way

Look at all the units in WC3, all the weapons are ludicrously oversized for this exact reason

the orc sure as hell looks different. why is this cinematic suddenly the holy grail that validates the dogshit looking footman yet the orc gets completed revised to nu-wow style orcs?

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That could work, the human campaign always did feel sort of rushed. Maybe have it when Arthas goes off to Northrend?

Aye. Also Reforged will fix the final NElves mission. As in add Chimaeras. It bizarre to see them in the Orc Campaign, but not in the NElves Campaign. Though it was because of the deadline they didn't add them. If they were in, then the mission would've been a tad easier.

Most of the main characters in WC3 kept their voice actors for WoW

>most of the voice acting will be replaced with WoW "talent"
Please no, I bet they'll butcher Anub'Arak again, I can't take it. ;_;

That was a dark ranger u dumbass not a archer

custommapfags have the greatest reason to be scared. its still up in the air exactly how much blizzard is going to break the current mappool. patches 1.23 - 1.24d already broke a FUCKload of stuff and that was just the beginning

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Wrong. Arthas, Sylvanas, Illidan, etc. changed because Blizz devs were literally assholes

Some based retard is going to remake dota in this and I can't wait for the shitstorm that follows. Someone is also going to make an auto-chess.

>see new thrall art from the china convention
>wtf why are they slapping retarded armor on the direwolf?
>think for a beat
>oh, because theyre going to slap in skin microtransations and mounted units are the biggest "surface" to work on with a RTS camera
>scroll back up
>archmage now also has horse armor
>tyrande now also has wintersaber armor
remember kids. things don't get better, only worse.

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This is WoW art : Everything has armor everywhere.
I bet the gooks and fat americans dressing their dogs love this.
>"look how kawai my tiger is"

True, but Kael'Thas, Thrall, Cairne, Antonidas, Uther, and Muradin all remained the same, Jaina did too up until the story got stupid, and Kel'Thuzad kept his original VA in Vanilla and Hearthstone, but got replaced in later expansions and HotS because they had the same guy using the same voice for the Lich King for no good bloody reason

Can't even get the swift unarmored mounts in Classic WoW

>blizzard put a neutral hero undead high elf unit in the night elf unit reveal art
>have to yank it days later when everyone asks why
>months later still back to the silhouettes
lol embarrassing. was someone drunk at work? did the chinese asset studio they pawned this project off on just never play the base game and assumed any bow and arrow character == nightelves? its really revealing how little of a shit blizzard gives about this game

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>the other part of me
You mean the part that wants to fit in here.

SMALL

INDIE

STUDIO

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That art is fucking retarded, her ass must be full of cat hair

It doesn't need to be easier

They said that you can just literally plug in an old map for WC3 and it will work in reforged, that the only thing why people are excited for it, nobody will buy this shit so they can play WC3 champaign in hd grabics

fucking nigger zoomers who didnt play vanilla, nathanos was literally undead version of saurfang, he was feared and destroyed so many alliance asses, he wiped literal raids of alliance niggers