Why aren't you using Linux?

Why aren't you using Linux?

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I play console

I am on every machine except my gay-men PC

incel's OS of choice

Are you posting on Yea Forums from your console? I can confirm that Yea Forums works on Linux.

>calling others incel while failing to have sex
lmao

>>calling others incel while failing to have sex
>projecting this hard

Based incel retard

I don't hate myself this much.

I do.

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Meaning what?

The "Linux is hard to use/install" meme doesn't even remotely apply to Linux Mint which is what's pictured in the original post.

because all the games i pirate have installers that don't work on linux

Because I don't give a shit about supposed tracking in Wangblows.

I've been very close to switching for a long time, only problem is I play a lot of games on gog and I'm worried about compatability for some older games that are already bad on win10. Minor perf loss isnt a big deal to me.
Are there resources for finding the compatability of games?
Though, what distro are you using for this? Looks nice.

Linux is more for nongaming PC usage imo. I would use it over this W10 tripe in a heartbeat on this machine but then I can't use 90% of my Steam library.

winehq.org
github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/

Why you linuxfags always have to take desktop screenshot with a bazillion windows open?

>tracking
This is the least of the issues with windows.

>bazillion windows open
>2 windows open
OmegaLUL

Thanks, user

I also said "always", implying I wasnt talking specifically about your own screenshot, but in general to all of you linuxfags that always post screenshots with multiple windows open.

> desperately tries to be like Windows
Why dont just use Windows? It just works unlike Linux.

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You're the first person to not show a linux desktop without showing that irrelevant system information like this faggot

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>what distro are you using for this? Looks nice.
Linux Mint.
>Are there resources for finding the compatability of games?
Well, there's ProtonDB (pic related), but I think that's specifically for Proton compatibility of Steam games, so the other guy who replied to you is probably giving you a better answer when it comes to GOG games.

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If your complaint doesn't apply to his screenshot then your use of "always" is incorrect.

Why does screenfetch make Windows users seethe?

But I do.
Tf2, Dota underlords and some indie games is all I need. will have to use windows if I ever get into diabotical, though.

>using linux
>installing spyware
what did OP mean by this?

FIrst, mine wasn't a complain, but a legit question and curiosity.
Second, he's a linuxfag, so i asked him about something linuxfags do

BTW whoever keeps making these threads, stop. Why would you keep trying to bring plebs to something like linux. Having everything you love destroyed over and over again by normans isn't enough of a teacher for you?

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microsoft went full retard when w10 first came out with all the bugs and bloatware and forced update shit
they seem to have toned down the retardation a bit in recent months but I'm hesitant to switch back even if they have that linux subsystem thing

not a retarded freegan with a 10 year old pc

Linux is just a far better operating system.

I'd rather use Linux than Windows even if Linux spied on you as much as Microsoft does.

Linux is a cheap windows knockoff

You install linux as your main OS only if you're a neckbeard without a job.

I have:

- Ryzen 3600
- 16GB 3200Mhz 14-14-14-35 Samsung B-die RAM
- RX580

And I only use Linux.

Literally one of the strongest PCs you can have.

I can play almost every game that exists except most games that use anti-cheat (Blizzard games work though), and some older games that use quartz video playback.

>performance hit
No thanks.

>Literally one of the strongest PCs you can have
>can't run an emulator
lel

Linux is already dead
just look at how widespread systemd is
it's ogre

>use linux so I can emulate windows games in wine
Fuck is wrong witchu boy

>Linux is just a far better operating system.

Can it display image thumbnails in the file open dialog?

driver support

Because I will have to format a partition to ext. Btw why the fuck does linux not support ntfs?

I am currently using Linux as my main OS, but I don't have a neckbeard and I do have a job.

I can't imagine a normal person actually being mad about others not using Windows. Do you work for Microsoft or something?

>wanting the Linux user base to be too small for developers to bother with Linux compatibility
Do you not use Linux, or do you not play games? Either way, what are you doing here?

>reddit spacing
Fuck off

>format a partition to ext.

and windows can literally boot from a VHD file

ye

Using a Raspberry Pi with Raspbian for programming practice, does that count?

Just use the LTSC version. No bloat.

absolute cuck post

>why the fuck does linux not support ntfs
it literally does. it's NTFS that does not support UNIX permission system, so no unix-like OS could ever run properly on NTFS

I'm way too lazy to bother with it, like unreasonably lazy

Why would I ?

/thread

barely anything works

Mad? No, only linuxfags think everyone should be mad because someone uses some other OS. I simply see no reason in using a piece of shit that doesn't work and linux works half the time if you're lucky since open source drivers are garbage and nobody is going to write good shit for free, which is why I use wangblows since you can actually get shit done with it instead of fixing the OS.

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Because I value my time.

>It literally does
>Except it doesnt

this and
this

No native compatibility with windows executable. Call me back when devs stop pussyfooting around copywrite laws and make windows software a reality on linux.

absolutely not an argument

But I do use Linux user-kun

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I use Linux for an offline Workstation when doing art and video stuff. I also have some of my favorite GOG games on it like Ys Origin, Dustforce and soon KOF 2k2UM.
Linux is good stuff and runs like a dream even when going with less expensive AMD parts.

But I am using Linux. And I'm using it to play video games

Too much work. I used to dabble with linux some years ago but it was always from a hobby perspective. When it comes to gaming it doesn't offer anything I want. I would only used Linux on a beat up laptop.

No one is going to use a no gaems/software OS.

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This is (nominally at least) a gaming board.
Why the fuck do you think we don't use Linux?

>Why don't you intentionally gimp your ability to use your PC for the primary purpose you built it for?

If I were starting a server farm, I'd use Linux. If I were shitposting and playing video games, I'd use Windows.

>what is Lutris

Be me
>install linux
>literally cant even figure out how to download steam

Plenty of people do on consoles.
And what does your post have to do with Linux anyway?

use google to fix linux

i know what lutris is, but go on

I am too stupid for it.

no games

honestly, the bloat was just a minor thing for me, the thing that made me go to linux was the forced update crap that wasted a good 2-3 days of my time on one occasion
I haven't had any major showstopping issues yet, so maybe I'll go back and pick up ltsc in a year or two if microsoft has cleaned up their act

because i am using windows

I am.
I still have a 100GB Windows partition for Steam, because despite all progress, gaming on Linux still sucks major donkey balls.

because iam i brainlet that doesn't have the augmented brain power to do so

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LTSC also has no feature updates, just security ones.

If you can understand words that someone wrote in a post that is an answer to question "How to install Steam on [distro]?" then you have the ability required to get it working.

you must also be efficient in copy/paste

>Why aren't you going through the hassle of installing and learning to use a new OS that's compatible with less games

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Where did this meme come from?
Just because dudes on ISS and dudes in CERN and top 500 supercomputers use Linux doesn't mean that you can't use it.

I don't know what distro you were using, but Linux Mint makes it pretty easy.

>open Software Manager
>search "Steam"
>click first result
>click "Install"

Literally easier than installing Steam on Windows because I didn't even need to open a browser.

Have sex, and oh umm dilate hahaha

>Where did this meme come from?
The 90s, when it was true. That's when some fags learned that Linux was hard and they never let go of that.

>using a windows emulator

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There's no Windows emulator in that image but okay.

>linux isn't a windows emulator

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I'm using a Linux based OS to type this out right now, what more you want?

DYI dog shit OS where nothing works right and nobody makes things for.

>video drivers busted, will take an hour of figuring out
>Suddenly Ethernet driver is busted, another hour
>Oh no now the monitor never goes into sleep mode, another hour
>Browser randomly crashing, another hour

Why would anyone choose to live like this?

>posting a true statement in greentext with a laughing wookie image
what did he mean by this?

Yeah, I don't get how people can use Windows either.

but muh "free" software

what if I use linux at home and also my job heavily involves using linux?

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Well at least you know that your phone is running Linux based OS. Most normalfags are not even aware of that.

It's not and you're retarded.

OP here. I wouldn't choose to live that way. Good thing none of that shit ever happened to me.

When you start using Linux you gain a fetish for posting screenfetch shots with anime girls to the side

>Use Linux
>Go to software manager
>Chugs like shit
>Try to install, it freezes
>Ten minutes pass, finally unfreezes.
>Crashes

wait, does my iphone run linex?

I've never had any of these issues on Windows. I'm on Windows 10 and it's literally never been this stable, even XP wasn't as good. Sure forced updates is annoying but much less so than linux constantly crashing and shit.

You get what you pay for.

Liar.

your iphone runs Unix, user

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>I've never had any of these issues on Windows
Well golly-gee I've never had them on Linux.

Then you are cool and daddy Linus is proud of you. Grandfather Richard also approves, but would be even more proud of you used only freedom respecting software.

is that some full featured version of macos?

Unix is not Linux you fucking retard. I bet you think MACOS is also linux LOL

but i am. currently gaming on manjaro. no major issues with any games so far. one of the best choices of the past years.

Liar. Once a year I give Linux another shot

I've tried distro after distro, I have never ONCE had my Nvidia card EVER work. It's actually impossible to play games on Linux without going through the hassle of an hour of debugging

You got me there, iPhone runs OS that is derived from FreeBSD.

Why would I use Linux to do the exact same things I do on Windows?

Linux is the most fedora tipping OS ever made
Literally made by fedora tippers for fedora tippers

Liar. Once a year I give Windows another shot

I've tried LTSC and LTwhatever, I have never ONCE had my Nvidia card EVER work. It's actually impossible to play games on Windows without going through the hassle of an hour of debugging

I do.

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Because i'm not an autist.

unix is a standard that Linux, iOS, MacOS all follow. It's essentially a set of programs you can expect to have on a unix standard compliant device. unix is NOT Linux.

i never said Unix was Linux you absolute spoon

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Did you just hear about distro called Fedora? Do you find it that entertaining?

Based

Install gentoo

Don't care enough to switch. I also heard some software I'm used to isn't on linux, so are some of the games I play, so it's kinda pointless to me.

>Liar.
You're a fucking retard.

>Install Windows on fresh hardware
>While installing it automatically finds latest Nvidia drivers online and install for you
>Literally ready to fucking go for peak performance before you even see the desktop
W
O
W

Plenty of Linux distros can do the same.

>letting spyware install spyware
is the typical american windows user really like this?

Sunk cost fallacy. You've invested so much time in (((((learning))))) linux, you feel superior and attached to a fucking piece of software and you cannot handle truth in your face. It's sad.

Name ONE (1)

I'm Japanese

i'm using an old 950 gtx on a very old 2010 build that i recently tossed Mint 19.1 onto.

sure setting things up to how you like it takes time but just learn to google basic shit, most how-tos like adding nvidia drivers have lines you can copy/paste into the terminal.

I've been using Ubuntu as my main OS for the past year or so, and I'll never go back to windows. I have a windows 10 SSD that I occasionally swap to if a game I really want to play isn't supported by Linux or proton, but that rarely happens.
I need to use Ubuntu for work, which is what encouraged me to use it at home.

>I'm Japanese
timestamp hand

The last one I used was Antergos but I believe that's defunct.
Manjaro as well as Mint have an option to install proprietary drivers as well iirc.

Because I need Adobe programs.

Even ancient hardware Linux fails on, as you just stated. Maybe if they spent more time on quality software and less time on code of conducts it would be functioning properly.

>tfw I changed my motherboard and cpu
>unplugged old ones pluged in new ones
>didn't have to fresh install win 10
>it configured itself download the new drivers and booted straight

Felt good man, would of had to go through backing everything up, installing windows, installing all software and games then setting everything else up on a windows 8 or below.

but I do, Michael

Even Ubuntu will automatically grab video drivers for you.

Riddle me this you faggots:
Wh, do burgers masturbate to the idea of freedom, yet they happily deepthroat proprietary locked-down cock when it comes to technology
Are they ironically hypocrits or are they unironically sand-for-brains retaeded?
t. obsessed yuro

This. It's unfortunate that if I learned to do literally anything else in the time I waste here, I'd be a tech guru by now. But shitposting takes no effort, and here were are.

>be me
>try linux to be free sofware master race
>type "browse_internet.exe"
>cpu stars to overheat
>i type "active_absolute_zero_protocol"
>i forgot to chance from celsius to kelvin
>is not enough to control the heat
>"what_do_i_need_to_do.jpg"
>machines stars to speck
>"complied"
>fuck that noise
>run_crysis_at_ultra.exe
>jump out of the building before it exploded
linux is complex man

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Because my hobby is playing games not compiling kernels so I can (maybe) boot a game I'm not really interested in playing but want to post online about how it now runs on Linux.

Listen, Linux (on desktop) is a hobby and a nice one at that but it's unethical to trick typical gamers into wasting their time with it.

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Liar. It will try and fail, and you will get a black screen next login. This is what happen on my old 980ti.

what did he mean by this

prove it.

Clip Studio Paint seems to have no linux build and it's my art program of choice. I still plan on switching to linux once win7 updates end.

>Linux
>C:>_

Cons:
>trash drivers
>trash performance due to abstraction and compat layers
>almost never "just werks", always have to go through hoops to get a game to work
>no important programs have linux ports or ones that work on par with windows versions
Pros:
>free as in freedumb since too stupid to pirate
>roundabout way of not getting tracked when you could've just blocked it at the firewall/router level if you were actually computer literate
>can use it as a server
wow.. so this is the power... of linux gaming... woah

I use Linux MX at work. But I still have Windows 10 in my personal computer.
Honestly there is nothing I need to do with linux that I can't do just as easily in Windows.
>b-but it's free
Windows came with my fucking computer. I didn't pay shit. The propietary software that I actually use is actually worth it, unlike the linux bootleg version of every single program there is.

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Works on my machine™
I can even just go to software manager and choose proprietary or free drivers.

because the current gen of bergers wallowing in the freedumbs did nothing for it, and show no respect for it.

Shit audio stack
No proper CAD
DXVK sucks if your video card is old and it only has software vulkan support

cool story bro
reminds me of that episode of South Park where Chef gets new TV

I don't see the point in linux unless you are using it for coding or server development.

Windows just werks,stop listening to memes on /g/.

You paid with your freedom, retard.

>C drive on Linux
Wow, did author of this want people to make fun of him?

It came with your computer because the OS was factored into it's price. It wasn't free at all.

Of course you paid ahit
Your PC would be cheaper without Windows

>Windows just werks
except when it forces an update, interrupts your work, and then the update bricks your installation.

>muh freedom
>installs steam botnet/spyware
sounds about right and totally legit.

I've been thinking about dual booting manjaro just to fuck around with it

why would anyone? let's see:
>I'm a programmer and enjoy linux specific open source stuff
>I run servers
>I'm a hipster who wants to hang with the two above me

linux has exactly the desktop market share it deserves. IT people and wannabe-IT people.

do it faggot
Manjaro gives you the right to end every post with "btw I use Arch"

>I simply see no reason in using a piece of shit that doesn't work and linux works half the time if you're lucky since open source drivers are garbage and nobody is going to write good shit for free
AMDGPU is a thing, user.

I'm no RMS so I don't see why should have to be 100% FOSS to think it matters where I can find it. I use Steam to play some video games but I still prefer that my OS in general is free (as in...). I decide on non-free software on a case-by-case basis. You don't have to be all vegan just to be conscious.

Imagine spending thousands of dollars on a gaming PC only to go and install a free OS that gimps your performance just to save a hundred bucks.

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>Name ONE (1)
Anything with a new version released since late 2017 if you have an AMD card.
>I'm Japanese
And I remember Pearl Harbor, faggot.

proprietary software on linux is almost invariably bad

They treat their computers like appliances, and either don't know about the abuse of their privacy and data, or don't care. Same with their smartphones and talkative spyware devices. To be fair, when it comes to shit like nu-age cars, it's becoming harder and harder to avoid that botnet shit and I'm not looking forward to having to do a bunch of bullshit to a car to make it not a(s much of a) portable botnet.
The part where I get to call you a seething rent-free yuropooor is the part where the unwashed yuro masses are just as bad as the unwashed american masses. European countries' governments use free software, but they usually only do it because America spoopy no liek rather than because they actually believe in free software as a concept. Besides that, the distribution of freetards in America vs. Euroland is roughly the same. Quit blaming it on the convenient American boogeyman.

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That's very good philosophy

i've actually noticed a performance boost across the board on Mint 19.1 compared to windows 10.i assume it is due to less OS bloat.

>nobody has ever used Ubuntu
Wow, is this really your argument?

But... I do :)

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Even Stallman agrees that non-free games played on GNU+Linux is better than non-free games played on Windows, et. al. I'd give more of a shit about 100% free software no throttle more if I had a reason to keep good persec/opsec, but as it stands, having a GNU+Linux distribution I enjoy using with free software utilities and Steam plopped on top for my gaming habit is good enough for me. It's hard to stop spooks from getting my data, but it's easy to get Microsoft and friends from getting it. Plus I just enjoy using it thoroughly, in spite of the quirks, so telling some of the bigger silicon valley companies to fuck off is a nice bonus.

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>anecdotal evidence
Meanwhile in reality...

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>there are numerous Linux distros and countless possible hardware configurations but everyone whose experience with Linux differs from mine in any way is a "Liar"

Is this bait or is he actually this retarded?

how do i iinstall discord on linus?
plz help

>>there are numerous Linux distros and countless possible hardware configurations but everyone whose experience with Linux differs from mine in any way is "retarded"

Is this bait or is he actually lying?

Install flatpak that Discord provides
After that delete system32, download more RAM from downloadmoreram.com, hack the gibson and use GUI written in visual basic to track killer's IP

It honestly just seems like extra work for not enough gain. Like, every game will work on windows and if you need to use Linux you can get around that too. Meanwhile I feel like you have to spend weeks getting used to Liniux bullshit even if you're using Mint (which I was). Just overall a waste of time for gaming with absolutely no real gain and possibly many headaches because you'll have difficulty trying to find some random fucking shit you need to install just to get something working that was already working on windows. Yes the customizability is nice but not fucking worth it unless you are diagnostically autistic.

I assume you are not concerned about future of Windows (and therefore your future) not even a bit?

so i just type cookie?

>install Windows
>go through arduous process to remove all spyware thats probably futile since it's kernel level anyway
>have to manually and painstakingly install drivers
>have to update for hours upon hours
>start crying because after all that work I realized I accidentally didn't install it on my SSD so it's slower than Windows 95
>justfuckmyshitup.bmp

>install linux
>play video game|
>feelsgoodman.mkv

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I want to ditch windows. How do i get linux?

>implying the bios/cpu isn't backdoor'ed
being this new

No, I don't care. The worst thing I do is watch bubble butt porn and honestly I'm doing whoever is searching my shit a favor by giving them good recommendations.

too deep reference for me, I'm not as cool as you
follow instructions here to get gaymer chat working:
flathub.org/apps/details/com.discordapp.Discord

i only run good operating systems, such as reece k. sellin's freedows

bullshit, most of the problems with gaming on linux are independent from nvidia/AMD drivers. AMD's are better but driver problems are the tip of the iceberg.

I'm not calling you a retard because your experience with Linux is different from mine. I'm calling you a retard because you reply "Liar" to everyone who claims to have used Linux without experiencing the specific issues you described.

shame windowmaker doesnt handle some newer programs very well

>better security, more control over your security
>more options for just about anything
>easier to fix problems
>package managers
>vast majority of programs that run in windows will run in linux through WINE

where i can get source code and compile myself?

Because Linux is not, nor will it ever be, a consumer-level desktop OS.
It is an enterprise/enthusiast OS with a desktop made of cheap chipboard tacked on the side.

Linux is for servers, or people who like to faff about with their OS more than they like to actually be productive/play games.

Windows/MacOS is for people who want to get a reliable desktop experience out of the box and get to work/fun with minimal interference.

"but muh bluescreen!"
Windows has automated rescue features. Linux does not. If you didn't manually ghost your OS when it was last working, you are fucked.

None of those were me, I was just making fun of you because the statement you posted can be turned and used against you. You having one bad experience with Linux doesn't mean other people haven't.

look at few videos of various Linux distributions. choose the one you like the most, go to it's website and download it
then you can either try it out in VM or make live USB and try it on your hardware
or go full Leeroy Jenkins and install it without checking it out

>Windows has automated rescue features. Linux does not. If you didn't manually ghost your OS when it was last working, you are fucked.
Wow that's weird because I just installed Linux Mint a few weeks ago and I specifically remember setting up the automated system restore feature to create snapshots daily.

>the statement you posted can be turned and used against you
No it can't, because I wasn't the one claiming that my experience with Linux is the only valid one.
>You having one bad experience with Linux
Okay, you clearly have no idea what's even being discussed here. My experience with Linux was good.

ANDDDDDDDDDD
>linux doesn't come with a shit tone of bloatware.

I am

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>vast majority of programmers
only under an arbitrary, elitist definition of "programmer", and under that definition how many thousand programmers are there in the world?
practical definition, programmer = someone who writes code professionally, no way the majority use linux mainly if at all.

>set up
That's funny. Windows has it out of the box by default.

Hey, do me a favor and try to set up a Torrent Daemon with RSS downloading without using the console.

>literally too fucking stupid to read
I can see why you're a windows user.

I run Ubuntu on my laptop, I want to get to the point of installing it on my desktop as well. My issue is basic things, like cropping and pasting images together is super easy in paint but I have yet to find a Linux program that works as easy as MS Paint.

source code for what? proprietary software?
you will need to pray to saint iGNUcius for a long time before Discord devs give you source code to their shit
that flatpak thing however I think is just an Electron app, meaning you are basically running customised web version of Discord inside a containerised Chrome browser. But I'm not sure, I don't use it.

What distro is that?

And when you really need that restore point windows won't let you use it, in reality windows still full of weird bugs and bullshit and give you very few option for data recovery.

You make it sound as if I actually had to go out of my way to find the feature and then do a bunch of work to get it running.

Booting up Linux Mint for the first time brings up a "welcome" window which presents the option of enabling the backup feature, among other things. Getting to configure things exactly how I wanted to configure them was worth a few mouse clicks.

pinta

backdoor != active keylogger
You have to be explicitly targeted to fall victim to a backdoor, and I buy all my drugs on a librebooted machine anyway.
>driver problems are the tip of the iceberg.
Elaborate. Linux is an out of the box experience as long as you're not using some dogshit like Arch Linux and you're using a sane desktop environment (hint: NOT GNOMEshit)
>shame windowmaker doesnt handle some newer programs very well
The only program I've ever had a problem with in regards to WindowMaker is that I have to force steam to use a titlebar, but you can do that on pretty much anything that doesn't want to cooperate.
>Windows/MacOS is for people who want to get a reliable desktop experience out of the box and get to work/fun with minimal interference.
Neither of those platforms are reliable. Stupid shit like NTFS which is the worst filesystem on God's green earth still plagues Windows to this day, and don't even get me started on the goddamn registry. I'm not going to reinstall my OS every 6 months because it slows to a crawl otherwise. Time is valuable, and Winniggers love to talk about their precious "time." I use Slackware because it's ultrastable and has had every included package put under strenuous testing so that when i come home after a long day, I can drink beer and watch anime without having to worry about some stupid fucking forced Windows update breaking my shit. You can laugh and bitch all you want, but I will continue to use Linux because it's the only major operating system that actually WORKS.

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post programming socks

>says Linux doesn't have something
>it does
>"that's okay, I'll just move the goal posts"

that's funny, windows didn't make any restore points when I installed it

If I chugged dicks I would, but alas, I am a filthy heterosexual. Sorry user.

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Thanks user, i'll check it out. One other question is, how do I get all my tool bar info on the bottom like in Windows? Running Ubuntu and it has a top tool bar with the time and settings, I move the app drawer to the bottom and auto hide it but the top one with the time stays. I have limited vertical res on my laptop as it is, can't I make it like Windows and have all my stuff on the bottom toolbar and have it auto hide?

>windows
>everything works from the beginning
>install drivers
>install steam
>download game
>enjoy

>linux
>nothing works and spend hours fixing shit
>install steam
>download game
>game won't work on linux even through proton
>install a different game
>decide to restart the pc
>all games are gone
>try to fix it
>pc won't even boot anymore because of incompatible hardware or some other bullshit

Why run a command when you can just click? Make an OS that isn't retarded as linux and maybe I'll use it.

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Did you actually change what he wrote so that you could present a totally irrelevant argument?

Because if I want to game, I want things to just werk.

However, I use Linux for pretty much everything else. And it's nice to separate gaming from the other things I do with my computer.

at least try to use believable scenarios when falseflagging

You can use Proton without Steam.

>NTFS which is the worst filesystem
The only valid complaint I've seen against it is that it causes file fragmentation. This isn't a concern for most end-users, especially with SSDs.

howtogeek.com/251616/how-to-move-the-unity-desktops-launcher-to-the-bottom-of-your-screen-on-ubuntu-16.04/

Try running software RAID on linux with 4TB drives

I'm not an incel

i just have so many problems with the dock

Did you install LTSB or disable that feature?
Because it's always enabled on default since Windows 7.

NTFS has really bad performance compared to other filesystems, especially with programs that create a lot of small files.

Thanks user Kun

I'm sure that's true, but the ProtonDB web site seems to be for Steam games specifically. The URL for each game's ProtonDB page is "protondb.com/app/######", where the ###### is the same ID in its Steam store URL (store.steampowered.com/app/######).

According to benchmarks run on linux, where there is no kernal-level drivers for it.

ITT: SEETHING linux fags

>i just have so many problems with the dock
There's a workaround for this problem, but I haven't had to fuck with it for years so I can't tell you how to fix it. Ask around, maybe. I will say it's very impressive a window manager from the 90s has held up so well.

If moving goalppsts was part of Olympics, you would have just won a gold medal.

and I have seen RAID with 4 TB drives done, I see no reason why you would not be able to get that to work

I've seen it done too.
I've also seen URE happen within minutes of building the array, and how Linux can't handle it.

No, according to my personal experience using emacs on windows and linux.
It's well known that NTFS has bad performance with small files, you could probably find benchmarks comparing windows+NTFS and linux+whatever if you're actually interested.

Yeah you guys sure did own them by pretending Linux is harder to use than it really is.

$0.01 has been deposited to your Windows Store account.

I'm here to seethe untill shills on Yea Forums report to their corporate overlords that they should make native Linux builds of their games.

>Because Linux is not, nor will it ever be, a consumer-level desktop OS.
Stuff like archlinux and the really DIY distros? Sure. I'd like to see your reasoning for how significantly more newbie-friendly distros like ubuntu or manjaro will never be adequate for average consumers. To me it seems like a question of software availability more than anything, and that can absolutely be improved over time.

>can be
it's not a hypothetical situation
have you seen how many games we got in the last few years?

>fresh Window 10 install
>while installing the system hangs, have to start over again
>finally installs, but now it has to download the big fall update because it couldn't just do that during the first install
>crashes again, have to do a system restore and start the update over
>Windows automatically installed some outdated wifi driver with a known crash bug that was fixed months ago, causing bluescreens every 15 minutes until I downloaded the fixed driver from the manufacturer's website
>few months go by without much fuss, until the spring update hits
>update hangs again, have to spend another few hours babying my system until it actually installs successfully
>the new update reinstalled those old wifi drivers again, bluescreens return, have to manually install fixed drivers again
>repeat next fall
Combined with other minor annoyances from Microsoft's half-assed attempts at turning Windows into a cloud based tablet OS, I just ran out of patience. Even Vista was a more pleasant OS to use. Installed Linux on the same machine and it's been chugging along for about 2 years now.

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Why would I? The fuck does it add that would make me care to use it? Windows 10 works fine and cost me less than 10 dollars.

>inb4 irrelevant shit that doesn't apply to 99% of people or exaggerated out the ass

>but now it has to download the big fall update because it couldn't just do that during the first install
why are you installing from an old .iso?
are freetards really THIS stupid?

hello fellow unreformed nextfag

>windows
>everything works from the beginning
Good one.

Why would you have Max Payne uninstalled?

Because otherwise it's just a screenshot of your wallpaper?

>implying

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I don't hate myself

no good desktop environment
yes, I've tried them all
no, they all fucking suck so save yourself a few minutes and don't (You) me
I'd rather have a linux machine I can SSH into from a proper desktop OS, or even use WSL
fucking linux trannies

The number of Steam games with native Linux support (30% of top 10 games, 36% of top 100 games, and 27% of top 1000 games according to ProtonDB) is pretty high when you consider how many people are actually using Linux.

I prepared the install media a bit before the update hit, but put off installing it while I finished backing stuff up off my old machine.

Shut the fuck up Steve. You're not my real dad, you're just my stepdad. You can't tell me what to do, I'll (You) whomstever I want.

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I used to, but I play games far too often on my PC to justify using Linux. Windows does everything I need it to.

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>no good desktop environment
all right, I respect your opinion
may I ask, what is your opinion the desktop environment on Windows? is your definition of "good" actually list of functionality or is it just "more it behaves like Windows, better it is"?

ok ty.
WHY IN THE FUCK DO THOSE UPDATES KILL MY DRIVES BY RUNNING THEM
100% FOR THREE FUCKING DAYS

there's literally no reason to
linux users are the vegans of pc gaming

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>no good desktop environment
Meanwhile Windows is still catching up to Linux DEs from the mid 00. Only took them a few decades to add virtual desktops, hopefully window snapping and better focus follows mouse is next (I'm aware of and use the registry setting, it's still not as good as Linux's implementation)

i use linux for porn.....special porn

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>nobody does wacky tabs anymore

This site is dead, devoid of humor and culture, a zombie

people can just pirate Windows. People want to avoid becoming part of the Windows 10 botnet. Linux is also better for various non-gaming related reasons.

that meme is old though

>windows
>install drivers
>install steam
>download game
>it bluescreens every 20 minutes and you can't fix it because the only info you get is a sad emoji

>linux
>install drivers
>something breaks
>paste one command from google to fix it
>install steam
>download game
>enjoy

neofag started doing them too so now they aren't funny anymore

>>install drivers

If you have an AMD or Intel GPU then drivers are installed by default. (Drivers exist inside the Linux kernel and a package called "Mesa")

By the way the open source AMD Linux drivers are the best in the world right now.

Valve has been pumping tons of money and support into them.

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Forgot link

steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1602634609636894200

The only reason I don't use linux is because I love foobar2000 too much.

now that I think about it, you are correct. in a few years it won't matter what OS any of us uses because we are all going to get brutally cooked
and that will happen because of normalfags like you who don't give a fuck about anything. You don't give a shit about the thing Linuxfags are telling you, you don't give a shit about what vegans are telling you, you don't give a shit about what game crititcs are trying to tell you, you ignore every single thing that might help make this world more bearable to live in.
Question is: do I keep being optimistic that one day we will all get our shit together? Or would the correct thing to do be to start doing what you are doing? Maybe crank it up to 11, become even more ignorant than average normalfag.
Maybe that way I can contribute in a way that will make the end come day or two sooner than it would otherwise. I can help end our suffering sooner. Do I go for it? Do I become ignorant so that suffering will be a bit shorter for all of us?

Do you realize every fucking data center in the world uses Linux and have hard drives in software RAID using mdadm?

Out of all the things to complain about, I can't believe you chose RAID support.

Works perfectly through Wine.

Deadbeef is basically Foobar2k though.

>Do you realize every fucking data center in the world uses Linux
no wonder the shit is always breaking

>in a few years it won't matter what OS any of us uses because we are all going to get brutally cooked

Climate change isn't even proven.

However don't expect to cook to death anytime in the next hundreds of years even if it is.

[citation needed]

Fixed. Wait, is Max Payne 2 acceptable?
Fixed.

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Is this Linux Mint, Peppermint OS or Debian+themed Cinnamon ?

Too used to Wangblows and I'm not in the market for learning a new operating-system

this is a debate for /sci/, but I would like to say that you would need to put effort into being that ignorant. Such level of ignorance does not occur naturally.

Linux Mint.

By the way, sorry for making this thread. I had hoped it would be more screenshot posting and Linux gaming discussion, and less REEEE I HATE LINUX. I mean, I know I started the thread with the very mildly baity "why aren't you..." but come on guys. I don't care if you use Windows and I'd even welcome your difference of opinion if you didn't come into this thread literally calling me a liar for claiming I got Linux to work () and then telling actual lies about what features Linux has (). The Windows users ITT who just answered my question without being irrationally buttmad or dishonest are okay though.

Im using it under Solus

Windows SSD is full, to lazy to install my extra SSD at the moment. Freesync not working on multi-monitor setups is a big downside too for me.

Yea Forums is not place for discussion
we are here to bait each other for the lulz
and as long as this thread is up, there is one less space for a new smash thread

No, first one is much better

Linux can do alot of things but I'm not a superuser that needs to do most of those things that it does better than a windows does

>and as long as this thread is up, there is one less space for a new smash thread
well at least there's a silver lining

Why is it so difficult to run games on Shitlux?

Because I'm not autistic

It generally isn't. If you're a Steam user, you don't even need to know how to use WINE anymore. Steam's compatibility tool sadly doesn't work for all games, but for the games that do run with Proton, installing and playing on Linux is the same as on Windows; the only extra thing you need to do is check the boxes found in the settings window pictured in the original post.

it's not
native games work very well
native games only fail to run if developer fucked up some libraries or didn't describe well what dependencies the game relies on
non-native games require a bit more effort, as you are running a game that is not even meant to be run on Linux
in that case you can use Lutris to get your shit working the easy way or go do process of trial&error by yourself, and then once you have shit working share the knowledge with others, so that other anons will have easy way of playing the same game

Windows 10 licence issues is the main reason I moved to Linux. I used a cracked version of windows 7 which I upgraded to windows 10, however a few months ago it stated complaining about the licence.
I installed Ubuntu because that seemed to be the easiest and most supported
Here are the things I liked
>Updating everything on the system by running 2 command lines is nice and fast
>Far less rebooting
>Rebooting is faster
>Settings are less cumbersome e.g. changing IP address or DNS
>Didn't have to do anything about drivers. Automatically had the drivers for my wifi dongle. Had to install those drivers from a disk on windows, but I didn't have a disk drive so I had to download them to my phone first
>Fonts look better
>Seem to get better community support online vs windows (anecdote)
>Much easier for software development

Things I don't like
>Games don't work as well
>Sometimes have to jump through more hoops for software (ppa, snap, Flatpack, appimage, these things take a bit of time to learn if the software isn't just available with apt)
>Gnome feels like is was made for touch first
>Built in backup tool worked fine for a few months, now it won't back up to my NAS
>mounting drives is harder than windows
I should probably switch distros, but I'm lazy

Lmao I'll just stick to
>Download game
>Play game

But I just explained to you that Steam Play on Linux literally is
>Download game
>Play game
Oh wait, are you actually saying you're too lazy to check a box in the settings menu?

that is the process for all native games on Steam and even for most non-native
but feel free to stay on Windows, nobody is forcing you to move
I'm sure that you will even get easily used to whatever fuckup Microsoft makes next.

>le climate change bogeyman

>I'm sure that you will even get easily used to
not while this ssd can still chug along with a pirated windows 7 copy it won't

>Every game is available on Steam
>Every game on Steam runs well
>Replacing my entire OS for one with fewer capabilities

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>>mounting drives is harder than windows

On a setup distro you literally just click the drive in nautilus

>projecting this hard
Hello incel.

Because all the desktop environments are absolute shite for a multitude of reasons, most distros still have major issues when it comes to settings for multi-GPU multi-monitor with different resolutions, the automount options for NTFS drives are always a pain in the ass, Steam is a piece of shit so if you dual boot you involuntarily get hit with dozens of GB of compatibility files, there's more than a few games like Risk of Rain that are a huge pain in the ass to get running natively because they use 32-Bit libraries, and nobody wants to play Battle for Wesnoth despite it being a lot of fun.

>>Replacing my entire OS for one with fewer capabilities

The OS has extremely more capabilities.

The only thing it's worse at than Windows is running binary software compiled for Windows.

Because windows is an OS that actually works and gets support

I'm not using linux because the wireless adapter I have for my desktop doesn't work with any of the common distros and the proposed fixes don't work.

And running games. Even native linux games run worse compared to their windows counterparts on same hardware.

Like..? Does it wash my dick for me while I play vidya? No? I'll just stick with Windows.

more like
>download game
>doesn't work
>search around for a solution
>have to set some environment variable in the game's launch options to enable some experimental proton feature, use winetricks/proton tricks to install some libraries in that specific game's wine prefix, and download a cracked exe due to proton not dealing well with some drm and anticheat measures
>play game, but with glitches and worse performance than windows

>Because all the desktop environments are absolute shite for a multitude of reasons
There's literally nothing wrong with XFCE or the multitude of functioning window managers
>the automount options for NTFS drives are always a pain in the ass
Works perfectly for me. Is your fstab configured correctly?
>Steam is a piece of shit so if you dual boot you involuntarily get hit with dozens of GB of compatibility files
Have different directories
>there's more than a few games like Risk of Rain that are a huge pain in the ass to get running natively because they use 32-Bit libraries
Do you not have multilib installed? How does Steam even run for you? I've played it plenty out of the box.
I could strawman too, as there are many games that run better in Linux than in Windows, sometimes by over 30%

thank you for your endorsment, Pajeet. 0.2 cents has been deposited to your Microsoft account

>there are many games that run better in Linux than in Windows, sometimes by over 30%
Post them. Hard mode: no super tux kart.

For some games, yes.

For others,
>download game
>play game

See protondb.com/

Garfield Kart and Nier Automata

It doesn't auto mount though right? I seem to remember having to point the drive to a specific file location when I was setting up my NAS, so it was easier to access them from the network.

>Nier Automata

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>Thread literally isn't about videogames
>Turns into a massive OS shitflinging
>Will reach bump limit
holy shit jannies do your fucking job

Games are software. So Windows games running through Wine fall under that.

It runs actual games better than Windows

RPCS3 for example runs way faster on Linux than Windows.

Shitty native ports don't count.

>Garfield Kart
>>Garfield Kart
>>>Garfield Kart
>>>>Garfield Kart

Not him, but Nier Automata does actually run better on Linux than Windows, it's true.

No that requires editing /etc/fstab

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Why can't we have this on Windows

The whole reason DXVK exists is because some autistic kraut was determined to play Nier Autotomato on Linux no matter what. It's the first game to run in DXVK and one of the most thoroughly tested by now.

>but then I can't use 90% of my Steam library.
Nowadays, you can. Most games (even native Windows games) are one-click plays on Linux. Most of the ones that aren't are games with anticheat, and Valve's working that out.

>Nier Automata does actually run better on Linux than Windows, it's true.
How is that even possible? The fact that it's running through Vulkan through Wine should cause noticeable overhead. How can it be that it isn't?

Thought so, even then it was pretty easy to do. There were plenty of guides online to set the hard drives up they way I wanted them.

Valve has been working with AMD on a new shader compiler, and apparently a handful of games run better through DXVK with it than natively on Windows. I'd presume it's because Vulkan is a lower level API than DX11?

incompatible with EGS

DXVK has gotten extremely good.

Linux kernel is much better in performance than Windows, especially on AMD processors.

RPCS3 for example runs PS3 games on Linux sometimes 60-100% faster than Windows.

Also stability and consistency, there's no problems on Linux running this game, Windows users for some reason complain about problems with the Nier Automata port.

Because as a C++ developer I have had a limited amount of interaction with the GNOME community and honestly I would rather stick with Microsoft, knowing full well what that means.

How do they exist?
They're assholes, their libraries are shit, their software is shit, their documentation is either bad or nonexistent, they make random retarded changes for no reason, every time you turn around they've sunk their stanky foot into something new, and their usage of javascript is personally offensive.

>I have had a limited amount of interaction with the GNOME community
I mean, to be fair, virtually everybody in the Linux community hates them too. They have insufferable developers that only give a fuck about their own ecosystem, and frequently try to push changes that would fuck over other software communities. Furthermore, everybody just about universally agrees that GNOME is the shittiest DE by a landslide, and GTK is a garbage graphical toolkit.

I use it at work, both on my workstation and on the servers I develop software for. I also use it on my home server. It's desktop experience was never polished enough for me to use it on my main desktop at home, though. It's fine for work because what I do there is just programming, in other words working with text. At home multimedia and gaming are also important to me and whenever I've tried to run Linux I always run into compatibility issues with software or into strange quirks and bugs, like inexplicable DE stutter despite running on high-end hardware, tearing especially when using multiple monitors, random crashes with certain DEs, spotty support for new graphics cards when they come out, games and hardware which don't run on Linux, worse performance in games that do run and shit like that.

Windows has just been more stable and hassle-free on my home desktop. There's nothing that I want to do that I cannot do on Windows, really. In an absolute "emergency" I still have access to my headless Linux server or can always use a Linux VM for something, but that doesn't really happen.

>there's literally nothing wrong with XFCE
Good panel customization but its application and whisker menus are absolute jokes
>functioning window managers
That's not a DE
>is your fstab configured correctly
Adding NTFS drives to your fstab instead of it being a quick option is the brief pain in the ass, dingus
>Have different directories
Or you know, actually give the user the option before automatically adding a multitude of downloads
>how does Steam even run for you, I've played [RoR] plenty out of the box
I can personally confirm that a large number of Linux distros--like Mint, Fedora, Ubuntu, and so on--will most certainly not let you play Risk of Rain "out-of-the-box" with an "out-of-the-box" OS installation and RoR download

But user, you can install quartz with winetricks

>application and whisker menus are absolute jokes
elaborate
>Adding NTFS drives to your fstab instead of it being a quick option is the brief pain in the ass, dingus
If you think that it's difficult to add one line to a config file, you shouldn't be using computers. Hell, my distro makes an fstab FOR YOU when you install that has all my shit in it, so you hardly even have to do that.

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because pic related and Forza

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>I can personally confirm that a large number of Linux distros--like Mint, Fedora, Ubuntu, and so on--will most certainly not let you play Risk of Rain "out-of-the-box" with an "out-of-the-box" OS installation and RoR download
Then you're absolutely full of shit. Not only does it run flawlessly through Proton via Steam, it has a native Linux version (albeit, not a terribly good one).

That doesn't work 99% of the time.

Trust me, quartz video playback and anti-cheat are the only two reasons for 99% of the games that don't work through Wine.

How many times does this need to be said?

>Proton works with a handful of games. Want something a little less known? You're SOL unless you wanna have fun debugging
>Wanna do the most basic tasks like use a printer on Linux? Download this, RTFM, and ask on forums for help when things don't go well
>Lie to yourself and pretend freeware shit like GIMP is remotely on par with any premium OR freeware shit on Windows
Until Linux is 90% compatible with at least everything on Windows I'm not using it again. Get fucked Luddit tard.

Y'know, I'd actually be down for a civil conversation on the topic if not for the fact Linux-fags are just as bad as Quake-fags in that they barge into the room, ask why you don't like thing they like, and no matter what fashion you tell them, they immediately get assblasted. It's a fucking OS and I know for a fact most of you that use it are the worst kind of perma-virgins

I didn't have any issues with my HP printer under Ubuntu. Was pretty painless to set up.

GIMP has actually improved a lot. It's still not on par with the premium stuff, but it's pretty solid for shitposting and random edits.

>if not for the fact Linux-fags are just as bad as Quake-fags
Quakefag here. Kill yourself.

>>Lie to yourself and pretend freeware shit like GIMP is remotely on par with any premium OR freeware shit on Windows

GIMP is fine for literally 100% of people's photo editing needs aside from professional photo editors who can afford to pay $600 for Photoshop.

>Wanna do the most basic tasks like use a printer on Linux?

I actually use this as an example of where Linux is better.

Linux has 1 printer driver. It supports thousands of printers.

Do you know how many printer drivers Windows has? Hundreds/thousands, most of them complete shit, bundled with malware, abandoned, etc.

If your printer is supported by gutenprint, it's just click and print on any setup Linux distro, or you use the CUPS interface to add your printer.

>Install ubuntu 19.04
>Need to print something at hotel
>Turn on printer
>Just appears in device list
>Complete print without doing anything extra
Just werks™

>Linux-fags are just as bad as Quake-fags in that they barge into the room, ask why you don't like thing they like, and no matter what fashion you tell them, they immediately get assblasted.
You know, they're probably like that because people like you just make shit up and don't know what they're talking about. (in your defense, Linux has been getting significantly better as of the past few years, and it's really not unheard of for someone to have tried it just 3-4 years ago and have had an experience that's quite different from what Linux is like now)

>Proton works with a handful of games.
This is a lie. It's not perfect yet (it's only been around for a year or so, but it works with most things out of the box with the exception of . At worst, there will typically be some minor issue like the game launching in windowed mode or something.

>Wanna do the most basic tasks like use a printer on Linux? Download this, RTFM, and ask on forums for help when things don't go well
When's the last time you used Linux, 2004? Most printers work just fine and have graphical interfaces just like Windows.

>Lie to yourself and pretend freeware shit like GIMP is remotely on par with any premium OR freeware shit on Windows
I don't think anybody except the most deluded actually pretends that software like GIMP is on par with its industry counterparts. However, most of the open source alternatives are -good enough- for the average person, and there's no reason why industry software can't be ported to Linux other than the chicken-and-egg problem of people not using Linux.

You can’t grow a dick. It’s just a dildo superglued to your crotch, Melissa.

>elaborate
Only been recently messing with XFCE, but the application menus are definitely on a lower tier compared to other DEs, thanks to the lack of searching in the default application launcher and the wonky way they operate when opened via hotkeys. Might be a preference thing, as I can see why someone would want their application launcher opened that way, but XFCE has been an exception to the rules I've experienced in most other DEs, and I don't like it in that regard (will probably stick with it though, because again, great panel customization).
>if you think that it's difficult
Something doesn't have to be difficult to be a brief annoyance, dingus.
>not only does it run flawlessly through Proton
1) Proton only came out recently and has little relevance to Linux programs running natively. That's like saying it's no problem that the native version of Dark Corners of the Earth for Windows runs like shit because you can emulate it on PC.
2) Proton definitely does not count as "out-of-the-box"
>it has a native Linux version
Then apparently you can't read because I've been saying the native Linux version will not work on an out-of-the-box installation due to the libraries it needs

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Because most of my games don't work on it.

>2) Proton definitely does not count as "out-of-the-box"

You literally click "Install" and "Play" in Steam.

Just like you do in Windows.

>1) Proton only came out recently and has little relevance to Linux programs running natively. That's like saying it's no problem that the native version of Dark Corners of the Earth for Windows runs like shit because you can emulate it on PC.
So? That doesn't change the fact that it allows a fuckton of games to be played effortlessly that you were previously unable to.

>2) Proton definitely does not count as "out-of-the-box"
By what metric? You install Steam, install a game, and hit run. At worst you might have to check a box to force run Proton for a particular game (if it has a bad Linux port and you'd rather run it through Proton, like RoR). Some distros have Steam installed out of the box.

>Then apparently you can't read because I've been saying the native Linux version will not work on an out-of-the-box installation due to the libraries it needs
Like the other guy said, what distro are you using? If you have Steam installed in the first place, you should have all the libraries you need for RoR. I have a fresh install (literally yesterday) of Manjaro XFCE and it works just fine. Maybe Ubuntu requires to to explicitly enable multilib, I dunno, I haven't used it in a long time. For gaming, Arch and Arch-based distributions like Manjaro are a lot more comfortable.

300 posts later, but I'm pretty sure the reason is that 80% of linux programs are qt/gtk which can both be automatically themed along with your desktop, unlike windows stuff.

Alternatively, they're trying to show off their dumb window manager setup, which is hard to do without windows

>>it bluescreens every 20 minutes and you can't fix it because the only info you get is a sad emoji
i get one or two a year and its usually because of admittedly bad browsing habits on my part

Because there are games that requires tweaking and configuring to work functionality, which needs additional software packages installed on wine/proton.

Likely they have an AMD GPU. Its one of the things Windows users have a hard time accepting, that a card that has effectively no drivers on Windows due to how slow and unstable they are, has the best drivers on Linux.

>there's no reason why industry software can't be ported to Linux other than the chicken-and-egg problem of people not using Linux.
Usually this is specifically just people bitching about lack of Adobe. Which is not even a good excuse since the same company Valve partnered with for Proton also produces a supported package of Wine specifically for their customers like Pixar that has Adobe's suite working perfectly.

Pretty much every other professional graphics software package except Adobe's is available on GNU/Linux, and honestly their licensing restrictions are getting onerous enough anyone should be thinking about switching.

>brings up WINE out of nowhere
>it runs actual games better, for example it runs [not an actual game] better
>any game whose linux version runs worse than their windows counterpart doesn't count because I say so

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I am though

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There's literally no reason to use linux as it would just be me doing the exact same things I would on windows except less efficiently.

>Hey learn the ins and outs of this operating system so you can do the SAME THING YOU'RE ALREADY FUCKING DOING.

Unfortunately right now outside of the developers of emulation and compatibility tools there has been very little uptake on proper Vulkan-first development.
Most porting teams starting work on a Linux port still get a D3D11 blob dropped in their laps which they then have to bash into shape with a proprietary compatibility layer which unfortunately have not kept pace with DXVK.

As much as I like what the guys at companies like Feral Interactive are doing, it is a kind of humorous example of the advantage of open code over closed.

Woah gimme that pape bro

There's some other examples, too, like some CAD software, the MS Office suite, and the occasional in-house software that a specific company will use. I'm hoping that some of the improvements going on for Wine right now will extend to running a lot of non-game software, as well. I know Crossover exists, but the last I've heard of it, it wasn't really perfect.

Point is, games in general run worse on Linux.

>the occasional in-house software that a specific company will use
This is the real answer. Big companies usually have tons of internally developed utilities and mission critical software that is win32 only, and sometimes even worse. It's horrible.

A game designed to be cross platofmr would run much faster on Linux than Windows.

Linux performans far better than Windows.

The problem with a lot of native Linux games is that they're incredibly shitty fucked up ports of the Windows version.

>download Steam version of Max Payne 2 on Linux
>it just works

The only issue I have is getting the unofficial widescreen patch to work on Linux, and it turns out I just needed to go to SET LAUNCH OPTIONS and add:
>WINEDLLOVERRIDES="d3d9=n,b" %command%

Verdict: Proton is great, but I shouldn't have needed to get that information from a fucking YouTube video (youtube.com/watch?v=AWHfU_B036M). At least two comments on ProtonDB mention d3d9 override for Max Payne 2's widescreen patch, but one doesn't say how to do it, and the other mentions winecfg which ended up being unnecessary. So the only real problem here is that the easy-as-fuck solution wasn't documented in the right place.

Maybe I should make a ProtonDB account and contribute.

>The problem with a lot of native Linux games is that they're incredibly shitty fucked up ports of the Windows version.
This, and for a long time Linux graphics drivers were nowhere near on par with Windows graphics drivers. That situation has gotten much better, though.

>The problem with a lot of native Linux games is that they're incredibly shitty fucked up ports of the Windows version.
Does this apply to Shovel Knight? I noticed Steam offers a native Linux version but I haven't played it on Linux yet.

Why even try to convince retards to use Linux?

I've been using only Linux since 2012 and I stopped trying to promote Linux online years ago.

These people are too fucking stupid to use Linux properly or even understand why they would want to.

I realized, why do we even want them using Linux? They will not contribute to development, and they will not increase numbers to get support of companies. Things are already going so well on Linux.

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Maybe he's not playing the Steam version? I know for a fact the Humble Bundle and gog versions of RoR on Linux require an old Ubuntu specific version of libcurl, which even on Ubuntu conflicts with the current libcurl package. The Steam version does work, but that's because Steam downloads the needed libraries as part of the Steam Runtime.

bro you just posted cringe lol

2d stuff made with cross-platform engines are usually just fine. In fact the games that were using XNA and that are now FNA should be in great shape.

Its the intensive 3d games where a porter has attemped to shoehorn D3D11 onto OpenGL 3.3 or 4.1 for Mac compatibility that really suffer on Linux, and even when they do get to use Vulkan their attention is divided between true Vulkan and MoltenVK and as I noted before its kind of sad but funny that they've fallen behind DXVK.

>and they will not increase numbers to get support of companies.
I mean, they kind of would. That's like, half the point of Linux evangelism, the other half being free software autism. Most companies have been pretty clear that the only reason they don't support Linux is the lack of a substantial userbase. So, people try desperately to bring others over hoping that the Linux install base will hit critical mass one day. If it had even 5% extra market share, that would probably be sufficient.

I'd rather just run things natively than have things go through an emulator or compatibility layer because muh performance
besides, LTSC with open shell is pretty good

Does Diablo 3, Hearthstone and Starcraft 2 work, lad?

It's literally better than on Windows

>install hardware
>it just works

I have it dual booted with W10 LTSC. I actually really liked it, but I have too much Windows software I can't live without. I was also annoyed I needed to plug in my ethernet cord to get it to install wifi drivers, that shit just work on Windows.

Given that many of those games are made with 3rd party engines like unity and unreal that already run on linux, making native linux port is pretty minimal work for devs.

Mine was the opposite, windows needed the internet to download wifi drivers and on Linux is just worked. Granted, it was some shitty TP link dongle, but I was surprised Linux had it out of the box.

Intel Wifi stuff has good Linux support

I can't run my vr porn games on it or I'd use it. It's a good option though.

>install some linux distro
>need to print something
>add printer to list
>download drivers
>doesn't print shit
>try matching by tpc/ip
>it doesn't have that option
>look up solutions online
>"bro, just edit the .inxxx3 file. add cmd.k3j f939j at the end fo the file"
>do that
>now it doesn't even detect printers, so I leave it as it was
>some other solution involves running some weird command
>it actually works
>linux says that the printer is out of paper, except it's not
>go back to follow some user's advice and edit some configuration files with shit I don't know where to even look up
>I can print documents now
>it only took me 2 hours
>it's broken again next time I start my computer

That'spretty much my experience with anything involving leenux

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because it fucking sucks my dick with how fucking retarded it makes doing the simplest shit
i fucking hate windows but i fucking hate linux even more, especially because i used it for a solid 3 months with absolutely no fucking problems
i was telling everyone how great linux was and how it ran every game i wanted to play and how smooth it ran, until one day i decide to do a kernel update and completely fucking nuke all my configs and python, preventing steamplay and lutris from ever working again
one fucking update wiped out everything i loved about using that motherfucker and i had to go back to fucking winblows
i got 0 fucking help from any of you retarded fart-sniffing linux fags and only got "WERKS ON MY MACHINE" out of you incessant cockbothering emotionally unstable retards, so switching back to windows was made so much fucking easier
if you want people to use this fucking piece of shit then make it absolutely fucking retard-proof like windows and decide on one or two distros you want people to fucking use. that's not gonna happen though because every single developer capable of helping to do that is either on too many anti-psychotic meds to give a shit or too retarded to actually make a good solution in any reasonable amount of time
fuck linux and fuck you nigger

>Most games (even native Windows games) are one-click plays on Linux
if they're 32 bit, sure
64-bit WINE is another story

Why do you update the Kernel? Isolated from your distro?

A monkey could operate Linux (and a lot do)

>Wanna do the most basic tasks like use a printer on Linux
arguably the simplest thing to configure and a total nonissue
>GIMP
total shite by any assessment and most freetards moved on to Krita

>Krita
Never heard of
Tell my why I should use it

because it told me i should update and like any normal fucking person i let it update
it updated the kernel and the distro which was fedora
i've already heard all the bullshit excuses from every kind of fucking faggot out there who insists linux is perfect in every way and anyone with a problem with it is retarded, so you're not going to convince me of shit
no one should use fucking linux for gaming, ever. it's a fucking waste of time and every single one of you motherfuckers acts exactly the same when confronted with someone who says otherwise. you fucking shit your little pants and insist everyone else is stupid.
you're gonna fucking die one day and the world's going to be better for it. nigger.

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Works fine for native linux games I guess but for anything involving Proton, Wine, cracks and online games it's a pain in the ass.

It works and it isn't run by the faggots behind GIMP

aside from muh spyware, what benefits would I gain from linux over windows from a purely gaming sense

>so you're not going to convince me of shit
I don't want to, user. I just wanted to know more of your problem and which distro you used.
You provided all of this information.
I'm sorry that Fedora fucked you over

OS does not get progressively slower at startup (same as MacOS for pretty much the same reason, no registry)

>OS does not get progressively slower at startup
had this installation of win 10 for 3+ years now, no slowdowns or anything.

If you have an AMD graphics card, working drivers, higher performance, and stability.

If you have an Nvidia card its about the same really other than the moral victory of not using a platform controlled by a console company.

I believe you but if you install the amount of software the average person does, in another 3 years you'll be convinced your computer's hardware is running too slowly and it's time to buy a new PC.

I've also made a protondb account and contributed to it.
Do it user, 2020 year of the GNU/Linux desktop.

i'm fucking sorry bro i just get the biggest fucking hate boner for these delusional cumswallowers who do nothing but lie to people just trying to get out of a fucked up lifestyle where their information and privacy is exploited for money for some fucking nigger in a suit to profit off of
it's so fucking counterproductive yet every single one of them acts the same goddamn way towards people who aren't educated but want to learn. it's almost like they don't give a fuck about being free and just want an excuse to dunk on people about something because that's all that's happened to them
FUCK

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I'm still on a 3770k with 16gb's of ddr3 ,I got 600+gb out of a 1tb ssd and it stilI runs as fast as the day I installed it. I really can't imagine any "normie" programs that would negatively affect performance unless they had a really shitty pc or kept on getting spyware/malware in which case they wouldn't know how to maintain and protect their pc in the first place so Installing linux would actually be a detriment

You sound like someone who doesn't routinely run as Admin which makes you a statistical rounding error in the population. Congrats.

>64-bit WINE is another story
Old news. This hasn't been a problem in over half a decade.

>You sound like someone who doesn't routinely run as Admin
I run it with full admin privileges. I even have a baby nas network. I would say my knowledge of pc's is just above average not really "programmer" tier but good enough, unless it was a shared family pc with grandma clicking on every add she can see I really don't see anyone who's mildly knowledgeable with pc's and has the unit all to themselves to get hit with crippling performance issues

It is you cuck

You're an optimist, we need more of those

sell me on linux, I play video games on my pc 90 percent of the time I am home. What advantages does linux offer me

>no u

>What advantages does linux offer me
Depends on the games you play. I mostly play visual novels, arena shooters, Team Fortress 2 and retro games but when theres a new game coming out I want to play it's very rare it hasn't worked in Proton, but then again, I'm in an autistic demographic.

No I don't mean compatibility, I mean like ignoring game compatibility, what is the reason to use linux

>literally not a single argument
cuck

People are legitimately scared of terminals. And even today if you use linux long enough you're going to run into something that requires opening a terminal.

I already do though.

>>start crying
kek fag

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm a dumbass who can't read.
Alright so the only real disadvantage is if you do professional video editing there aren't any great alternatives (although kdenlive and blender provide good tools for most shitposter use.)
Stay away from Arch Linux or any other gay meme shit. Use something well supported like Debian or Slackware. Stay away from shitty desktop environments like GNOME which are the source of most newcomers to Linux's frustrations. Use something like XFCE or even a straight up window manager with a file manager of your choice. There really are no downsides as far as what you can do; Linux provides you with a lot, lot more functionality in general. Eventually, you'll toy around with it enough and find a workflow you like and the best part about it is that no corporation can force you to change it. You have the advantages of using a uality, fast filesystem like ext4 which provides for much extra snappiness in everyday use. You'll have sane config management instead of having to toy with something like the windows registry. You can choose to use bleeding edge shit, or ultrastable shit so that your computer will never nag you again to update if you don't want to. All in all, it's just comfy

because i tried it and it's shit.
reminder that 95% of time spent on linux is time spent painstakingly emulating windows

Dumbfuck, you can use Linux for personal browsing and windows for gaming on a dual boot since developer support has always skewed towards windows as a platform. I do that and have a server running arch up for work while I’m out
If you feel superior for using Linux, you’re an absolute dork who has little to nothing going for him

Because games. I have games I want to play that aren't on steam and therefore don't care how great proton is now.

Not easily.

What distro did you try (pls don't say mint)
and not really.
I do basically everything faster, and easier on Linux than Windows.
Yeah, the odd game that requires tinkering sucks, but don't pretend Windows doesn't force you to tinker with games sometimes too.

there is no advantage to using linux in your case. you'd just be learning a new OS and not utilizing any of its benefits, like most people that waste the time to install it.

what games?
You can still use DXVK and the like with wine.
All valve really provide with proton is basically being even more automated than Lutris.

I saw some benchmarks that showed windows was noticeably faster than proton, which in turn was noticeably faster than the dxvk lutris install. I was mainly thinking of my non steam copy of GTAV. It's the only reason I'm not on my Linux Mint right now.

>makes it more like MP3
Who would do that?

Because I would need to run WINE for literally everything I do on a PC so what's the point?

Well dxvk translates directX -> vulkan on the fly, so yeah there's going to be overhead.
But yeah, GTA5 is probably a game i would recommend you just stick to windows with. Unless you have a pretty decent rig to offset the ~10-20% performance hit.
But get off of Mint pleas, jesus christ it's so terrible.
Give OpenSUSE Tumbleweed a try, so you always have access to the latest drivers and updates. It's even more out-of-the-box ready than Windows and INFINITELY better than fucking Mint.

yeet

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Not sure about setting up NAS, but you can make a drive automount with the disk utility (gnome-disks). With the partition you want, go to Additional Partition Options (the checkmark) > Edit Mount Options...

The default location is different from what you get mounting it in something like PCmanFM, but you can change that.

That may well be, but everyone suggested Linux Mint Cinnamon as retard-proof babby's first distro, so that's what I got.
Before that, I had tried debian and fucked things up by trying to add beta repositories, then getting half my applications updated to a broken state.

>Gnome
don't know how people can stand using that anti-intuitive shit.

>tfw Arch
feels comfy man

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i used gentoo at first and then void for a while, i also had alpine running on an old laptop because i had to run an ethernet through it to get internet on the desktop.
it doesn't matter, there's virtually no difference between distros other than that some with autistic design goals like alpine have even less support. no matter what distro you're on video editing, photo editing, design software, games, anything is worse, not to mention stupid rolling updates are liable to brick your system if you're not monitoring your computer like a hawk. when you're spending most of your time trying to find substitutes that are like what you'd use on windows only shitty then you have to ask why are you even bothering.

link all of them to a single controller and try to play them all.

show me your wallpaper user

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>That may well be, but everyone suggested Linux Mint Cinnamon as retard-proof babby's first distro,
god i hate new linux users perpetuating this shit.
Mint is fucking terrible, and i can't express that enough, it actually deters people from linux because 9/10 times it fucks up and leaves a bad taste, and then they spread their bad time to others and here we are.

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Because I want women to talk to me from time to time.

It was a pain in the ass for me just to properly hack my switch. I cant imagine switching over to a new OS, learning it, and praying everything I use is supported by it.

All because some user on a cunny board keeps saying to install it, but never gives any reasons as to why. Always just some screenshot of text art and their PC specs with a program in the background.

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Can you give me a reason to use Linux instead of Windows that I can't easily shoot down by explaining how Windows can do it better, faster, and easier?

man of logical thinking

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Why aren't you using a window manager?

they give "reasons" that they think are useful to anyone, but they aren't. i'm sure it has numerous benefits but i'm also sure as shit not a one is going to apply to me.

thread should've ended right here.

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Debian-testing or bust

Can I run Adobe suite natively?

what is bust? cant find it on DistroWatch

I switched the night Proton was released, so I'm coming up on a full year of using Linux

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As much as you think Linux Mint recommendations are bad, us plebs go to any linux thread anywhere and we get "Use X" then "X is shit, use Y" followed by ">implying Y isn't shit" ad infinitum.
For every post you make about Mint being shit I see another telling me you're a bitter grognard with irrelevant concerns that will never affect me and Mint is fine.
How am I supposed to pick one opinionated nerd over another?

>but never gives any reasons as to why
package managers are extremely convenient.
No M$ bullshit.
non-tailor made games for windows generally perform better, especially with vulkan
actual choice with how you customize your system.
wide range of distros for skill levels, ranging from Linux From Scratch -> Ubuntu
game support improving every day
emulators even performing better on Linux
terminal is a first-class experience.
eventual productiveness goes up once you acclimate to using it as well.
the list goes on

ehh i just installed it cause i didn't know which to pick, might switch to cinnamon soon, unless someone has a better suggestion

>How am I supposed to pick one opinionated nerd over another?
You decide for yourself, but i'm telling you that Tumbleweed or even an arch with a GUI installer distro is an infinitely better time.
Arch distros are also cool because arch user repo helpers (package managers) can compile shit for you that aren't in the official repos.

>only freedom respecting software.
And hardware

>arch with a GUI installer

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I don't expect windows users to do a vanilla arch install, nor would i ever recommend it.
That being said, after doing 4 myself, I now use Artix, and have no need to ever install arch manually again.

so a bunch of hipster shit that the average person would never use unless they spent unnecessary amounts of time trying to figure it all out, on top of the time already needed to figure out how to use the OS

literally nothing i listed is "hipster shit".

>what is a vm

ok bud

A waste of time in my opinion.
Just use a live iso if you want to get a feel for it.
And If you fuck up on your actual hardware just reboot the USB again.
but everyone's different.

>Linux
bunch of irrelevant shit

>windows
runs loli porn games without problems

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IDK anything about Linux. But it sounds like I get less native game support, but console ports and emulators might run better?

I've been using windows for years, so whats MS bullshit? The start menu ad's or are you talking privacy stuff?

>wide range of distros for skill levels, ranging from Linux From Scratch -> Ubuntu
user, I double click .exe's and right click menus for everything else. Is this shit gonna have me righting code just to watch a jav video?

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>I've been using windows for years, so whats MS bullshit?
all the bloat and overhead in their OS that makes your games run slower.
50/50 chance of updates failing and you getting absolutely 0 reason why.
>user, I double click .exe's and right click menus for everything else.
you can do that on linux too.

Because I love when Windows 10 updates my PC before I shut down even though I don't have updates enabled

>bloat and overhead
like what? quality of life stuff?
>50/50 chance of updates failing
what is this even referring to? computer updates? i've never seen an update fail.

the fug is that

is there any reason to use that piece of shit over Krita?

Krita's a digital drawing/painting program while Gimp's an image manipulation program, IMO it's the only good thing Gimp has over Krita but that's just because I'm still new to Krita while I have like 7+ years with Gimp.

Is it still just an objectively worse version of Photoshop or has it become it's own thing?

>Until Linux is 90% compatible with at least everything on Windows
done

i didn't like how unintuitive it was. all i ever do is just some small edits or crop stuff so i just use paint dot net.
i'm not sure if this is relevant to a linux thread since i also use windows but whatever.

How do you decide what distro to use?

The same reason you're posting on Yea Forums instead of /g/.

Why isn't Linux doing anything groundbreaking besides being minimalist, which is a demographic already occupied by Mac/Apple?
Why should software developers cater to an OS that doesn't even put effort to make a better OS?

Face it. Linux is just for leeches. Wanna know why Gaben dumped Linux? Because it was a one-way street. Linux has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

same here, I'm used to all of gimp's bullshit but I can still recognize what a horrid UI it has and how sluggish it is. Some of the image manipulation is so awful it's unusable, like trying to scale down a layer you pasted that's too large, because you can't see what's under the slowly updating, jaggy preview until you confirm the entire operation. Meanwhile in Krita it just works, no bullshit windows popping up.
And holy shit I hate Gimp's multi-window interface.

>I use Slackware because it's ultrastable and has had every included package put under strenuous testing etc etc
Thats one reason to not use Linux, when you guys want to install something you have to use some package manager otherwise you can't be sure that it works.
On windows you just find the installer online and then double click it. Done

Package managers are nice though.

based retard

No they are not and I don't use windows store either.
Freedom is just being able to download whatever you want and it works truly out of the box.

use ubuntu until you're used to it then decide to switch based on what you want to do with it

>99% of people just want to play games, browse web, write emails etc
So why not stay on windows lol

I don't see an actual reason to switch to linux, all I do is play vidya and browse the internet, I can see its usefulness in other areas like programming but I don't fuck with that.

Try a few of them and see which one you like more.
I recommend a rolling distro though, as you'll always have the most up to date everything.
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, debian testing (sort of), Arch (or one of its many derivatives), or if you have an intel CPU, Clear Linux is a great choice as its maintained by them and has excellent performance.
Or if you want the absolute best support and ez googling, ubuntu.

feelings were hurt but the truth remains. No woman is going to want a guy who cares so much about their computer's operating system to use something like Linux. If you're not really making anything interesting to show for using it then it seems like you think too much about stupid shit.

>wget game.tar.gz
>tar -xvzf game.tar.gz
>cd game
>mkdir bin
>cd bin
>sudo apt-get install cmake
>cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/homes/faggot/games
>make
>sudo make install

wow so hard

There is literally nothing stopping you from getting it at the source.

Package managers just make it quicker.

Is the background that Zen garden with the stones arranged for maximum good vibrations?

with arch it's just
aurman -S game
y
y
game

>like what? quality of life stuff?
i don't know what it is but everything runs better on my machine under linux. even modern games running through wine
>what is this even referring to? computer updates? i've never seen an update fail.
i lost like 500 gigs of shit 2 years ago after an update because the retarded monkies at microsoft didn't think people might have more than 1 physical hard drive

Unfortunately linux only really works on specific hardware so you have to build/buy with linux in mind if you want use it.

>On windows you just find the installer online and then double click it. Done
sounds like a lot of work. on linux i just type "install steam" and i'm done

thats not even kind of true

>why not stay on windows
its shit

Eroge is mostly fine on linux.

A game that you get the source code for? Ye ok but most that I play I don't have the code for.

Linux has literally more compatibility than Windows actually.

>caring what women want
lmao

>OS of choice
which one? linux itself is not an OS retard

>already know it
>has the most software
>newest versions
>doesn't mysteriously crash all the time
How is windows shit

There are people who hate on Linux just because it looks different. People like that are no different than my father.

>Wanted to get my dad to use Linux because he just uses his computer as a Facebook/Youtube machine
>Organized everything so it was exactly like a Windows setup
>"SON, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS. BAWWW"

Then eventually when Windows Vista lost support he migrated to Windows 10 and even complained about that being too different and just had to COPE and adapt.

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I am.

mostly fine is not fine
>this game works on linux but you need to apply 2 patches, change values to match your specs yadda yadda
>on windows it just werks

I don't really care what anyone wants. I just wanna chill out and die from old age

popular bad

>>newest versions
>>doesn't mysteriously crash all the time
what?
Linux gets drivers faster than windows sometimes because people can upgrade as soon as they're pushed to master
>doesn't crash
Literally can't remember the last time i've had a crash in my ~2 years of switching.
Only restart my computer when i absolutely have to.
All this FUD gets pretty boring.

cool, we are proud of you

>already know it
its never too late to learn
>has the most software
>newest versions
>doesn't mysteriously crash all the time
literally the opposite of true

Have any of you Linux power users setup a VM with GPU-passthrough? specifically a Windows XP VM or is Wine/DXVK fine enough performance wise that I don't need a GPU from 2007 sitting in my PC specifically for old games?

people keep forgetting Windows 10 $100 price tag

it's 0$ for pirate master race

People pay for windows?

there's no proof that collection of this data is malicious. google collects just as much data when you're not even using their products.

pass-through is pretty outdated these days as performance is /mostly/ fine with dxvk
Larger AAA games like GTA5 you can expect a decent performance hit from 10-20% though.
But if you have the hardware for it, pass-through is an interesting experience and you'll learn a decent amount about linux.

>yes, fuck me more, corporations!

>is Wine/DXVK fine enough performance wise
i've been getting better performance on new games through wine than native on win10. i assume it would be similar for older games. DXVK is fucking crazy

Any data collection is inherently malicious.

I use Linux at work and it crashes roughly twice per week.

Yeah no, not the opposite of true. When windows crashes, it's almost never mysterious. Linux on the other hand? Every mong out there has their own error management so you never know what kind of message, if any, you have to deal with.

Mostly fine as in most games just work without doing any extra setup. It's actually easier on linux in a way, since you don't have to install a locale emulator or change your system locale to play japaense games.

50 rupees etc etc

>google collects just as much data when you're not even using their products.
>not using a custom dns to block all google servers

So stop using most Linux distros then

the people using linus for games seem generally retarded. game devs themselves are putting spyware into their games. the last that got caught was redshell, and that shit is prolly still being used it's just more obfuscated.

>implying I use linux

Impossible to exactly match my Windows sensitivity in-game or force proper 4:3 with black bars scaling on 16:9 displays the way W7 with NVIDIA Control Panel does.

>I use Linux at work and it crashes roughly twice per week.
then go bitch to IT/ your sysadmin, also what distro?
>When windows crashes, it's almost never mysterious.
Fuck right off, WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR is the most un-debuggable shit ever.
Atleast on linux i can look at a clear fucking log, but on Windows?
good fucking luck with that shit.

>Every mong out there has their own error management so you never know what kind of message, if any, you have to deal with.

i guess you might be right. i've never experienced linux crashing in 15 years of using it as my main so i dont really know

>WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR
>he doesn't know how to OC properly
HAHAHA OMGLUL

>>he doesn't know how to OC properly
wasn't even OC'd you double nigger, now what?

Suse
My sysadmin is literally on another continent. I do bitch to It every time but to no avail.
Yes there is a system log on windows as well, and you don't even need to touch a keyboard to access it

Yes it "never crashes" so when it does, it gives the most fucked up errors imaginable
Or sometimes none at all, stuff just doesn't work

WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR is a hardware fault
Possible that a new driver can fix it, but possibly not

i mean i would rather my data not be collected sure, but the point being everything is going to collect your data even when you don't know it. you just have to have faith that you aren't being sold to african slave traders.

>you just have to have faith that you aren't being sold to african slave traders.
You know that's what they think the moment before they get bonked on the head.
Make sure you are not they.