Hating persona 5 is the popular opinion now

It's good.
But, it is not a videogame

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More people had the chance to play it and see how bad it is.

Trash game, just like smtiv

If you fuck her you get to have Sojiro as a father-in-law

So you come to Yea Forums???
What kind of decision-making is that?

It's almost like all the casuals that latched onto it for being the hot new thing moved on to whatever else is new. Meanwhile the game itself is still the extremely flawed, style over substance disappointment it was when it came out.

i also hate myself, user

The fuck do you mean? You can't say any form of criticism to the game before Yea Forums starts shitting you a new asshole.

I like Persona 5 but let's be honest and say the second half was pretty shit. Least in the first two weeks discussion was good and nobody turned into shitflinging.

As they say, fuck the Phantom Thieves.
I hope all the members get revered poorly as well.

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It’s a pretty dull and poorly written game. Futaba is cute though

how do you make a game where the whole point is the story and then have the story feel like a shitty first draft

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Well it wasn't ported to the switch so that's to be expected

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She’s an autistic sperglord. I can relate to that.

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>whoa she said "multiverse" thats so deep and heavy

Neither are impressive.

Persona is trash.
Play SMT.

I liked it but I absolutely fucking hate that they're going to redeem G*ro in the remake.

Don't we all buddy
>the second half is shit
Everyone I know who played it to completion admits that
A few like where the group questions if they did anything right at all and didn't just fuck up, and to be honest there were some hints early on that something like Igor would happen
But it was all a mess for sure, a hot steamy mess, and we're hoping Royal actually takes time to fix the story and make it not suck in that bottom stretch.

With any luck they'll sort of smooth out the ruffles around Akechi and his story will hit less like a sudden truck out of nowhere

I platniumed P5 the month it came out. It's a pretty solid game. I just wish the last 1/3 of the story was a little more tightly written and Haru wasn't just awkwardly shoved into the party with no time to really mesh with the group. P5 didn't really do that much to be original outside of 3 and 4 outside of the aesthetic so it's really hard to call it the best out of the 3.
Still a good game though, Not sure I'll wanna get P5R though, depends on how much is different

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SMT's story isn't great either lmao. Unless you're talking about DDS.

It's just weird because you can't say that anymore in persona threads anymore or you're being a "contrinarian" or your "following opinions".

Is not on shitch so is normal the hate.

>muh story
Stay far away from SMT.

Only if youre on Yea Forums, P5 is the most popular game in the series

>caring about muh popular opinion

Yea Forums isn't contrarian, they literally just falseflag about popular games they like because this board wouldn't be as entertaining if everyone agreed on everything like Reddit

I hate the series for introducing thots and furries.

I want to force Futaba to sit on my dick as she browses Yea Forums for hours on end. Stinky NEET autismo.

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Yea Forums is just full of retards. Half of it is contrarian shitposters who really need to take a lead pill and the other half is butthurt P4fags who can't admit their game is complete shit in comparison.

Reminder you can't trust Atlus anymore. They're censoring Catherine FB because of lol trannies and they have an "ethics" committee now.

Based. Now they just need to censored all Persona games.

The JRPGs are stupid charicatures but even when you're trying to make WRPGs sound good they sound incredibly dry and soulless.

Futaba is Personas number one girl

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You are projecting and also outed yourself as mentally ill

I didn't like P5 even when Yea Forums was cumming all over itself for it. What do I win.

>ginger

If he doesn't murder you first

>not liking gingers
Unrefined taste. Also Futaba has no freckles.

>Game has a multiverse

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>Woomy

Always been. P5 is a huge turd that followed a god tier JRPG. Of course people hate it.

P5 didn't innovate at all (compared to P3 and P4), unless you count cool UI as innovation.

Worst writing you'll ever see

This.

Literally can't be any worse.

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I'll be happy when hating every persona game is the popular opinion. Back to your general waifufag.

Do you love Haru?

I love Haru!

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If I had to pick a second favorite it would be Haru but I love Anne.

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Anyone who's not a shit eating waifufag has understood by this point that Persona games are bad. They're just very vocal about their shit tastes and like smashfags they create new threads every 10 minutes for pointless 4 reply ""discussion.""

I don't hate P5. I just think it's yet another carbon copy of P3 where they were more concerned about keeping to tradition than they were about fitting the design to the game they were making.

What the fuck is an evil god of the collective unconscious doing in a game about phantom thieves?
Phantom thief media is all about being tricky and winning through smarts and guile, being kind of a good guy and kind of a bad guy at the same time, not killing supergods.
But because P3 ended with you killing a supergod, 4 and 5 both have to have the exact same ending, even if it doesn't make any sense to the base concept of the game.

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It's one of the greatest games of all time
It has a bunch of faggots who are seething about it for one reason or another, 80% of whom have not even played the game
>nintendofags
>smashfags
>P3/4fags
>P1/2fags
>anti-weeb reddit newfags
>wrpgfags
>ACfag and his copycats
>other JRPGfags
>contrarians (see: all of the above)

Genuinely bad taste is its own reward, enjoy it

I don't hate Persona 5, but it's all style no substance and that negatively affects lots of the writing and characterization, some of the most important part of a JRPG. I'd say it's comparable to grading a decent paper an excellent student they mostly wrote the night before the deadline: flashes of brilliance, but aspects of wildly differing quality and thoughtfulness were cobbled together until it was "good enough."

That's because Futaba's hair is black, she dyes it. She's not a ginger.

This but with Futaba

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>but it's all style no substance
How many times are Yea Forums contrarians going to repeat this? It's the number 1 indicator that you never played the game. It has more substance than every other Persona game, this isn't even debatable.

Persona 5 had a lot of flaws. First three palaces were great, but only kamoshida really stands out as a villain with agency and pressure.

The characters are some of the best individually that we've gotten in awhile, but they don't feel like an actual group of friends like persona 4 or a group of loyal comrades like in persona 3.

Base 5 just always has this one step forward another step back mentality.
The twist with igor is good but it doesn't amount to anything.

Social links are way more interesting than before and SL characters feel like characters, but they lock really important combat features behind specific ones that you'd want to get.

Dungeon design is the best it's been, but you're stuck in mementos for 70% of the game, which is randomly generated.

>smelly
Nothing indicated that she didn't start cleaning herself/looking after herself properly after she started actually going outside and hung around with the rest of the PT though.

Which part?

The Haru part. Anne is my waifu but Futaba has always been my second favorite girl of P5, not my waifu though.

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I want her to be smelly though.

based

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>why does it end with killing a super god

That's literally the SMT experience

The 4th palace was one of the peaks of the game, as well as the 6th and 7th palace, what are you smoking?
They feel like more of a group of friends than P3 where nobody talked to each other or liked each other, and they're not overly friendly to the point of it being autistic like in P4 which is just cheesy SoL shit. It's the right balance.
The twist with Igor was great.
You barely go to mementos, it's entirely optional until the end at which point you can just blast through it because you're overleveled.

In terms of the gameplay, debatable. There are superficial improvements like adding more elemental weaknesses, but rarely does that fundamentally change the actual strategy of the fights. Or other improvements that are locked behind confidant progression that are completely optional and therefore the combat isn't balanced around them. The most you could say really changes is rationing ammo and more gimmick bosses. In terms of the writing, the game tosses out a lot of interesting ideas, develops almost none of them (especially relating them to one another or developing the game's themes), and tries to coast almost entirely on style.

...

How new are you to JRPGs and Megami Tensei?

>Bad story
>Bad characters
>Bad writing
>Watered down negotiation gimmick p1 and 2 did better
>Watered down battle mechanics to appeal to brainlets
>Substance

I want to fertilize her last remaining egg before it's too late.

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>but you're stuck in mementos for 70% of the game
How in the fuck does mementos take you that long, what on earth? Mementos is a tiny fraction of the gameplay, a literal afterthought until the eleventh hour. The game should have ended at Shido though, Mementos didn't need to be a big important factor of anything.

Congratulations! What now?

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How do you expect someone who didn't even play the PERSONA games outside of 3 and 4 to know that?

If you were talking about anything other than Megami Tensei you might have had a point, but you're playing a game from the original "god-killing" RPG franchise. It had to happen at some point.

Not that user but the 7th palace overstayed its welcome and had that tedious part with the mice. 6th palace was probably the best in the game though

Marriage and then quickies inbetween her classes.

I disagree.

>There are superficial improvements like adding more elemental weaknesses
So any new good features are superficial? Gun, for one, is an entirely new mechanic that works different from gun in any other MegaTen game where you can shoot any number of bullets out of your clip, and customize them to great degrees with all kinds of status affects and damage/crit rate, accuracy, and clip amounts. Are you saying Persona 1 was superficial because it had the most elements in the series? How can that be superficial if it's the first of the series?
>but rarely does that fundamentally change the actual strategy of the fights
Yes it does, now we can attack with bless and curse while still having the insta kill bless and curse attacks separate, that's a great improvement. Psychic does extra damage to people with status ailments and nuclear can amplify burn damage.
>develops almost none of them (especially relating them to one another or developing the game's themes),
Did P5's story really go over your head? It's not overly complicated but people like yourself who complain about the game miss how the game's themes were very blatant through the whole thing and yet they still weren't blatant enough because you missed them.
>coast in style
Stop talking in Yea Forums memes.

Yup. Here we go. Personadrones defense force is in the house.

The story is better than any other Persona game, the characters are better than any other Persona game, as is the writing.
You have to be retarded to think P1 and P2 did negotiations better. If you didn't look up which negotiations worked for which attitudes then you were basically guessing on every negotiation and wasting your time.
The battle mechanics are the best they've ever been.

>make retarded post
>get called out
>u..ugh... stupid drones.....

The point is the premise of the game, phantom thieves, doesn't match with megaten and they didn't care because formula, brainlets. They took basically no inspiration from actual phantom thief media other than "they wear costumes and steal things" and slapped it onto Persona 3 without thinking about it.

>Turns out P5 doesn't come to the Shitch
>NintendoGAF suddenly hates it
Really makes me think

These are the kind of people who criticize P5, people who unironically think Mementos was 70% of the game. They probably watched a lets play.
The mice part really wasn't bad, the puzzles were easy. 6th palace was probably the best dungeon in the whole series.

haha no switch port

I thought the Mementos portion was pretty lame. I only went in maybe twice a month to clear 5-6 requests, then I'd fuck off. With all the running around you do trying to rank every confidant as well, it becomes something you don't want to do because it takes up a whole day you could be using to rank up two people. Until you max the teacher. Having it gated irked me a bit as well.

Only real complaint I have and it didn't stop me from enjoying the game. Luckily I spent maybe 10 hours there total in my playthrough.

That ain't it chief.

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>4th palace was one of the peaks of the game

No it wasn't the entire design of that place is retardedly convoluted and obnoxiously long. That's not even counting the fact that the story reason that you're there is a dumbass forced "breaking" up of the group, that amounts to fuck all.
The only good thing to come out of that palace is Haru having hands down the best awakening scene.
Sae's palace is only good because of it's music. Everything else down to the tournament there is awful, Kaneshiro's bank blows the Casino out of the water.
Shido's palace is bad for the same reason, it's way too fucking long and tedious without enough spectacle to be interesting. The part where you need to beat the separate shadows is super uninteresting.
Again the only good part there is the fight with Akechi.

>They feel like more of a group of friends than P3 where nobody talked to each other

t.never played the game. The P3 cast feel like actual comrades that grow throughout the story. There's not a single moment in persona 5 that comes close to Mitsuru comforting Yukari.
Persona 4's cast ACTUALLY behave and act like what a close knit group of kids would act like, it's way better than P5's group aesthetic where no one really feels attached to anyone.

>The twist with igor was great

Still didn't amount to anything as Igor can't do fusions still and getting him back does nothing. It's just a plot beat that unlocks the last "FIGHT GOD" area, "THE WORLD" also feels like utter shit in this game.

>You barely go to mementos, it's entirely optional until the end at which point you can just blast through it because you're overleveled.

Maybe if you don't plan on finishing anyone's SL's or getting any of the Moon quests, but then you'd be retarded. Either way on hard mode you NEED to do mementos to grind unless you get really lucky with fusions.

P5 has nothing to do with P3, where are you getting this shit from? You're really making me think you haven't played other Persona games and JRPGs in general. If anything, P5 takes a lot of inspiration from P2 but obviously you haven't played that. Anything can match with MegaTen, we have an entire MegaTen game that takes place in a video-game tier simulation where everything is made of data from the sun, a game set in early 20th century japan where you fight with 3D action combat, a mainline SMT game where you don't start in Tokyo and Tokyo is actually deep underground and stuck deep in the past where time flows differently, and a game where the law and chaos endings are not even close to the true endings.

>Haru having the best awakening scene
Wait. What? You mean Futaba?

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>got called a contrarian for not liking it just a few months ago
Now the shoe's on the other foot. Not so nice being told you have shit taste, is it?

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I remember when they were hyping it up as the best game ever despite not playing it shortly before their world came crashing down and P5 didn't come to switch.

I'm gonna assume you either

A. Didn't play on hard mode

or

B. Didn't max non party members SL's before the end game.

Because if you did you'd have been progressing through mementos. You spend more time in mementos than you do in any other dungeon. It didn't really need to be an end game palace as well.

>P5 has nothing to do with P3, where are you getting this shit from?
LOOK AT THIS DUDE

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The fourth palace is the Pyramid you fucking mongoloid, stopped reading there. For the record, if you think Okumura's palaxe is too long then leave the dungeon and take a break moron, it wasn't designed to be finished in one go.

Futaba's was literally just a persona 4 awakening scene. There's no way it was better than the tone and inflection of Haru's.

Good, it was shittier than Persona 4 :^)

>social links
>calendar
and.. uh......... wild card... i guess???

>literally the entire structure of the game
yeah pretty important lol

Right I forgot, either way, point still stands. Except for that palace there's the splitting off branching paths that artificially elongate it. The town segment was fun.

>Take a break moron

Nah faggot, the issue isn't it being overly long, the issue is it being tedious and boring to slog through.
I took plenty of breaks for Kamoshida's palace and was excited to hop back into it. Okumura's is just shit whether you stop or not.

I'm going to assume you're just really fucking bad at the game, because I went to Mementos one, MAYBE two times between each dungeon, breezed through every floor and every quest until I was locked out of continuing, and still managed to have time to spare to max everyone's confidant except Iwai and the arcade kid.

>No it wasn't the entire design of that place is retardedly convoluted and obnoxiously long.
The palace had some of the best design in the series, by being a non-random generated palace and by not being convoluted as shit and obnoxiously long like P1/2 dungeons, it is by default already one of the best dungeons in the Persona series since that puts it above P1-4 dungeons. P5 dungeons are objectively better than any of the other dungeons in the series.
>That's not even counting the fact that the story reason that you're there is a dumbass forced "breaking" up of the group, that amounts to fuck all.
So you're confusing the 4th palace with the 5th palace, did you even play the game?
Sae's palace had the best events like the tournament, which was a great callback and homage to SMT Nocturne, which in Nocturne was already a great callback and homage to earlier SMT.
>t.never played the game. The P3 cast feel like actual comrades that grow throughout the story. There's not a single moment in persona 5 that comes close to Mitsuru comforting Yukari.
P3 cast does not feel close at all, they barely speak to each other. Name 4 times that Ken and Fuuka talked to each other. Name 4 times that Yukari and Shinji interacted.
>muh mitsuru and yukari
You mean that one 5 minute scene that P3fags jerk off because the MC isn't present? They already did that better with Makoto and Ann's relationship in P5 where they developed from hating each other to being friends in a much better way.
>Persona 4's cast ACTUALLY behave and act like what a close knit group of kids would act like, it's way better than P5's group aesthetic where no one really feels attached to anyone.
They don't, they behave like SoL whacky anime characters which is not how close friends behave. That' why P4's cast is so attractive to people who don't have any friends and don't actually know what that's like.

>P5 has nothing to do with P3

mementos is literally tartarus, the metaverse is literally the dark hour and the masks are meant to be as violent as the evoker.

You're retarded.

because of how time passes the games are the same? i don't get your point, they're very different. you would have a point if you were comparing 4 to 5, because the structure of when and how dungeons appear is pretty similar there.

Stop making an embarrassment of yourself, you haven't even played any games in this series and you don't know what you're talking about.

This is why I hate the SMT and Persona fanbase. All you do is fling shit on each other.

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Futaba's awakening alone beats all of the P4 awakenings, her backstory being explored through her palace was much better than just intermittently running into the dungeon's character every few floors where they spit shadow dialogue at you and then run away, every single dungeon.

Either dialogue isn't particularly groundbreaking, it's just the persona dialogue doesn't try to pretend otherwise - obvious shit has to be reiterated sometimes.

What a surprise, cumbríàns like persona

She was a perfectly fine character that got shafted fucking hardcore for the sake of Morgana's shitty arc. Hopefully they fix the amount of screentime she gets in P5R

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>hating persona 5 is the popular opinion now
I wonder why

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It's been the popular opinion since it came out, same with how people were hating on P4 due to comparisons to P3

>still trying to force this rivalry
Discordnigger be gone

Mementos is Tartarus but better, they literally gave you the option to do Tartarus on the side of the new and improved palace dungeons so you can grind. You're acting like mementos is the main dungeon mode of the game. You're retarded, every persona game after 3 has some other world, that's the point, the TV world isn't the dark hour and neither is the metaverse, You sound like you haven't even played P4. Every persona game has had a different way of summoning your persona. Pulling off the masks is symbolic of the themes of the series, shooting yourself in the head is just an edgy gimmick.

youtube.com/watch?v=PdbKumqiG9I

BA BAD-UM BE-DA BUM-DA BA-DA BU-MA BA-DE AH

covers are so cringe

no

P5 isn't bad but god it falls apart in the second half. Persona 2 still remains the best story but it's held back by the most basic-bitch gameplay of the series. P3 holds the best balance between the two but even then it still has crippling issues like how boring Tartartus is and how much nothing there is between story beats

>It's the best in the series because P1-2 dungeons are shit.

That doesn't make it good retard, Kamoshida and Kaneshiro's palace are the perfect length and difficulty combination. Okumura's palace is a stark downgrade by comparison, and every dungeon after feels the same. They feel padded without introducing anything new.

WHEN COMPARED TO CONTENT ALREADY IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE GAME.

The rest of your points are just subjective so I'm not gonna try arguing them because you're just bias'd to 5. The P5 cast are shit as a group but great as individuals and have the best party member SL's in the series.
They don't do half the shit that SEES or the investigation team does and feel like random characters just thrown together half of the time. The only notable times they gather together is just to move plot forward. Fireworks festival, Sushi, Destiny land, it's all just to have scenery for plot we never see how they work as a group.

You're really stupid, the metaverse functions the exact same way the dark hour does and unlike the MIDNIGHT CHANNEL it EXISTS OUTSIDE THE TV just like the DARK HOUR.

Retard.

>EXPOSITION IS GOOD BECAUSE THEY MAKE ME SEE PICTURES.

Okay fag.

She'll get even less, somehow. It wouldn't surprise me.

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>Persona 2 still remains the best story but it's held back by the most basic-bitch gameplay of the series.
How can you say this when P4 exists and has tiny dungeons with randomly generated hallways and multiple units that do the exact same things

buttkoto

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Persona 4 is objectively shit though, we all know this. The only people who like it are waifufags. It's the worst game in the series hands down.

>That doesn't make it good retard
Yes it does, and right next to that I pointed out that it's better than 3/4 because it's not randomly generated, making it better than 1-4 by default.
>The only notable times they gather together is just to move plot forward.
Except for all of the times they hang out just as friends, and all of the times you hang out with them in their confidants. P5 has the most options for confidant hangouts of any Persona, so that makes them better friends there as well since they go more places with you. And then, at those locations you can run into other confidants and hang out together as a group.
The metaverse doesn't exist in the real world, are you retarded?

I want a clearer shot of her new motorcycle.

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They explain her back story and the reason she is the way she is in a much more gripping and emotional way, they blew the P4 formula out of the water in a single dungeon, not to mention the dungeon itself is just better.

Do people out there actually convince themselves that this is true?

Why does everyone on Yea Forums always shit on P4? We're also falseflagged a fucking ton.

Which are ALL SHIT dungeon design, but that does not make it good, when you have BETTER examples in the game itself that completely shit on that level.
You'd probably be considered a success if I compared you to a cock-starved crackhead.

>The metaverse doesn't exist int he real world are yo--

You've never finished or played the game then, the metaverse is literally the same as the dark hour, it's a separate plane of existence that blankets the real world. The only difference is the trigger and way they both are reached.

They both have a giant dumb randomly generated dungeon that are central to the game's plot. Why you're trying to deny any relation at all, I have no idea.

Easy to shit on the worst Megaten game.

>>hating persona 5 is the popular opinion now
Only because there isn't going to be a switch port, which is unfortunate because it's virtually impossible to talk about the game now.

i have this shot of her butt

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>Randomly generated dungeons
>Bunch of SJW shit
>Literally a billion subpar tropey waifu's
>Removed the protag being able to use other weapons
>Took out persona fused weapons
>Dumbed down social links
>Made stats gating Social links ten times worst
>The entire Music club Social Link.
>Worst hub in the series
>Protag is a literal gary stu.

Why does Atlus remaster games more frequently than they even discuss sequels?

They're not shit though, you're literally just blind and autistic. They're better than every other Persona dungeon on a fundamental level, that means they are good Persona dungeons.
It doesn't exist in the real world, the Metaverse is a separate dimension, hence why it's called -verse. The whole point of the ending is that Yaldy is trying to merge the Metaverse with the real world, meaning prior to that it was separate from the real world.
Mementos is entirely optional, you can blast through it at the end of the game when you're at max level if you want. The other two games force you to slog through 50 hours each of boring randomly generated hallways.

P3 - 5 are kind of samey to me. I like P3 a bit more than the others though I guess

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>Bunch of SJW shit
listen i hate p4 and all but you should be embarrassed by this post

The game has a lot of issues in general, the base game is like a 8/10 but could have easily been a 10/10 if they didn't rush it.

That being said i do agree the lack of a switch port is what makes it so hated.

Switch beggars are everywhere P5 is being discussed. They come to the newest P5R trailer livestream comments to port beg, it's ridiculous.

>mementos is optional and not central to the game at all

I'm done here.

I think he meant during the course of the normal game.
>you can blast through it at the end of the game when you're at max level if you want
Still a stupid argument.

>the base game is like a 8/10 but could have easily been a 10/10 if they didn't rush it.
This game had over 5 fucking years, there is literally no excuse

You are only forced to go to mementos 3 times in the game. Once the first time it is introduced, the second time 5 months later during Haru and Mona's thing (which is very short), and then one last time at the very end of the game. Complaining about mementos as P3fag is literally the dumbest shit I have ever seen because you literally have to go to tartarus for the majority of the game in P3, which is worse than Mementos.

A lot of shit can happen in 5 years man, especially with how much they changed. Every dungeon is completely unique, before they were stuck with Randomly generated dungeons.

So, I’ve decided to play through P5 again after all of the buzz surrounding Royal. I remember liking it a lot when it first came out but I’m not sure if those same feelings will still be there after the honeymoon phase ended.

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No neet girl would look anything like this or integrate into social situations well. They'd be fat as fuck and unappealing, just like the weeb fags that idolize her

Dropped it because of how boring it got during the space station part. Whole game felt like it was designed for a handheld system, not a home console.

>What are social link shadows
>What are moon quests
>What are grinding for items.

Either way I wasn't complaining you slack jawed retard. I was saying that both the metaverse and the dark hour share similar elements.
Only with you constantly yelling "NUH UH" which is retarded.

Yeah sure, but to say it was rushed is just plain dumb.

Mementos is better than Tartarus, this is common knowledge. Shadows as enemies are also shit, bringing back demons in 3D in P5 is one of many reasons that it is way better than the other Persona games.

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>Yes, i do enjoy reused assets, sir thank you please let me lick your boots yum yum.

this, it also doesn't help the fact she reminds lme those squid kids.

You also forgot about the fact her selfish reasons to join the phantom thieves. Sure Makoto did the same thing but it was for a greater cause. Futaba's was "lol i'm said :(( because of my mom".

She's the worst written character in all of SMT and persona

they aren't reused assets, retard. they're remade for hd.

>reused assets
You really don't know what the fuck you're talking about. P5 was built from the ground up, none of the assets from the PS2 era were used in P5 you absolute retard. Mementos is an objective improvement over tartarus.

Literally never met a socially isolated geek girl that wasn't pale, frail, and literally skin and bones.

>Persona 5 Pedo's actually think they're shit sly cooper rip off is anywhere near good

Xenobladechad reporting in to dab on you.

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Naoto and Marie called, they want you to acknowledge them.

Fuck off virgin

Poor attempt at a falseflag. Try again.

>WHY YES THEY WERE REMADE FROM THE GROUND UP, THEY DIDN'T JUST UPGRADE THE TEXTURES.

I bet you'll buy sword and shield too.

It sucks compared to P4 Gold. Maybe Royal will be good.

Okay fatty

>Xenoblade
Still doesn't even hold a candle to Gears. The game sucks.

It's literally impossible for Yea Forums to be contrarian when their top 4 RPGs are Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy VII & EarthBound

Shouldn't you be harassing twitter artist for putting clothes on a 15 year old?

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So you're an autistic shitposter who knows nothing about Persona or atlus, now this confirms it.

>Xenobladechad
yikes!

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ok, you have a point about Maire but Futaba takes place in second only because she's forced in as badly. Naoto on the other hand wasn't that bad, she was just bland in terms of writing.

OH NONONONO

Imagine actually thinking this weeb tripe holdes a candle against P5

>Popular
Where ? even here on Yea Forums the new trailers thread was comfy and good

No, i just realize actually unique shadow designs that fit in the world are ten times better than more Megaten reused models that are ALREADY reused for shadows.

persona 5 is a shit game weebs should be shot for liking this trash

P5 isn't just liked by weebs tho

>actually unique shadow designs
There was literally only 20 shadow designs or even less that were recolored to make more enemies, all Megaten demons in P5 are made from the ground with some new ones

The shadow designs are not unique, they're literally just a blob with a mask that sometimes looks like some random shit like a generic minotaur or a fat police officer. They reused the same assets and shadow designs in P4, and I'm so damn sick of seeing them I hope the series never goes back to them. Demons will always, always, always be better than shadows.

>Persona babies

youtube.com/watch?v=GH5Y7HIITT8

Imagine playing corridor simulator 5.

>another seething newfag who hasn't played the game

It's sad that the only way you can garner attention on this god forsaken board, is to act like a victim.

I mean persona 5 is basically dead, they had to suck sakurai's dick to get even an inch of attention back.

as opposed to gacha korean mmo simulator 2? xenoblade is sword art online-tier shovelware.

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>has to show off a WiiU game because XC2 was absolute shit
Cringe

You can't just destroy a mans life like that user.

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P5R is coming early 2020, also the daily threads and new trailers thread

You guys keep shilling the game like BOTW-fags did and now it's attracted haters. I don't get why this is surprising.

P5 is actually good unlike BOTW

Bloodbourne was shilled and it did not brought haters too(as far as i remember)

cringe

BOTW at least HAS gameplay unlike P5

Bloodborne was actually good though

Will you even get any bonuses in P5R for having a clear save of P5? I think they did something like that for P3 and FES.

>botw has gameplay
Now that's a funny joke.

They said you will get 'something'

Running around an empty open world is way closer to gameplay than leafing through DVD menus and reading text boxes.

>BOTW at least HAS gameplay unlike P5
walking simulators aren't games.

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You will get some sort of item bonus, but they're not letting you import anything.

>Running around an empty open world
That's not fun nor gameplay

>Bloodborne was actually good though
And surprise, BOTW and P5 are good too

waifu simulators arnt games either

Have sex

>botw switchfags were the ones seething about P5 ITT
Now it all makes sense

you do that in 90 percent of games and BOTW has more content then most games

test

>and BOTW has more content then most games
That's a straight up lie

>Compare one overhyped garbage game to another one
>I-it's the Switchfags I swurr
Persona babs are fucking pathetic.

name a open world that is better then faggot

>Persona Pedo didn't even get on dunkey's list

Hoe's mad.

shitty movie game

all open worlds are equally garbage.

When did purse owners start getting so arrogant? They used to be one of the most laughed at fanbases on Yea Forums

Ignorant post.

I love P5 but Atlus are fucking Jews.
Unfortunately my OCD means I'll give them my shekels for P5R so I can play through it again. But seriously these cunts need to bring their games to PC or Switch, PS4 is honestly a shit console (pretty good blu ray player though).

>following Reddit YouTubers
As expected of a BOTWfag

Thanks Akechi for summarizing what that old hag said in 3 sentences and both establishing your character traits and driving the plot. It's amazing how much more can be said with fewer words, isnt it?

That's actually fucking stupid and mentally deranged to need conflict to entertain yourself.

Normalfags invaded and convinced themselves Yea Forums always loved Persona. Persona suffers from a lot of bandwagoning and social media circlejerk these days now that anime is more popular in the west than ever.

It's probably Sony fanboyism, considering that Persona is now PS' only 3rd party exclusive.

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It's just inferior to 3 and especially 4. 4 just feels like a better version of 5. Similar general plot concept but done better

Doesn't change what I said. There were plenty of people here that thought it was retarded garbage.

HAHA no switch port

ITT : Weird consolegremlins argue about exclusives instead of getting a job and paying for a PS4/Switch.

tfw the artist will never do videogame stuff ever again.

I played both BOTW and Persona 5 on PC and I can confidently say that no sane person should actually pay money for either of those games, let alone, hardware to play them.

A good chunk of Yea Forums liked Persona, but not without it being made fun of every step of the way. I used to actually feel bad for Personafags because despite the waifushittery, they were relatively non-hostile and polite.

These days it feels like they're all smug as fuck and will shit on anyone.

atlus games were a mistake. all of them.

Basically this.

Raidou was pretty good, but you're right otherwise

>These days it feels like they're all smug as fuck and will shit on anyone.
You ever think that because they got shit on a ton in the past, they wouldn't grow to become more hostile in the future?

>they were relatively non-hostile and polite
This. It's hard to believe it's the same fanbase nowadays.

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it's just not as enjoyable as previous installments
it's still ok, but atlus being atlus we're stuck with this installment for like 8 years worth of spinoffs and half of the cast is just shit

so, in other words, you can't handle the banter from personachads and wish they'd let you shit on their games without responding.

>waahhhh why are Personafags rightfully shitting on me now that their newest game is better than most games???

>banter
It's low effort shitposts and new threads made by obnoxious newfaggots.
see

Very few fanbases get as defensive about even mild criticism of their favorite games. Honestly it makes me feel as though you people don't actually enjoy the games as much as you act like because you feel the need to be validated on the games by a taiwanese basketweaving forum

>enjoy the games as much as you act like because you feel the need to be validated on the games by a taiwanese basketweaving forum

That's exactly what it is.

>Honestly it makes me feel as though you people don't actually enjoy the games as much as you act like because you feel the need to be validated on the games by a taiwanese basketweaving forum
That would explain a lot

Smash ruins everything.

the vast majority of the "criticism" consists of buzzwords or people showing that they either didn't pay attention to the game or were too stupid to understand it.

They toughed it out for over 5 years throughout P3's and P4's reign. Only reasonable explanation I can think of is that the fanbase is mostly composed of newfags and normalfags, as stated.

>Open catalog
>I love my wife Ann!
>4 threads dedicated to comparing the latest 3 persona games with the same arguments every single time, reaching 10 posts before devolving into shitposts and being archived
>I love my stinky NEETwife Futaba!
>Name a better video game ending than P3 (You literally can't)

Great fanbase you have there.

or because people eventually get tired of seeing the same bullshit get spewed about their favorite games after a decade of shitposting.

P5 did bring a bunch of new stuff to the table, but failed to offer any meaningful challenge to use the new stuff on. The Work-Life Time Management system is completely broken open by the fourth dungeon and enemies and bosses are just straight up not a threat after the second dungeon (even on hard mode). Kinda pointless to add all the new stuff if you aren't going to be giving the player a challenge to use it all on.

If you truly enjoy the games it shouldn't matter because at the end of the day, you enjoy the game, and the opinions of some idiot online shouldn't actually change your level of enjoyment of a game unless you aren't totally sure of yourself.

P3 and 4 were easy too, P3 full moon bosses were 100 times easier than most Tartarus ones, and the only problems in P4 were Yukiko

>They toughed it out for over 5 years throughout P3's and P4's reign.
Everyone has a breaking point and I feel that isn't a really good justification at all.

I enjoyed he game more than any other game ever, and I have played 100s of games. You can fuck off with your copy paste Yea Forums criticisms that you’ve been spamming since the game was released, you’re a joyless faggot and you have shit taste in games. Now you spend your time going into persona threads to get butthurt and you wonder why you get shit on.

Not him but them discussing the game here on Yea Forums becomes literally impossible

why HAHA? are you cuck? are you so poor that you worship your one and only console?
I'm an idort masterrace, I don't give a fuck about your teenage consolewars. PS4 is just an inferior console to play JRPGs - no portability and worse controller. I mean the Switch has tons of faults too, but at least it's not just an inferior PC.
You probably think 30fps 1080p is "cinematic".

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reality:
>open catalog
>20+ EPIC SMAAAAAAASH THREADS
>4 persona threads
>"how DARE another game try to compete with my party game for attention! i'm going to start shitposting against it right now!"

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Wait the left seems like a small throwaway line in a social link and the right seems to be a word salad that ultimately doesn’t say much past tangible plot / universe elements. What exactly was your intent with this?

Why are you so angry?

When's the last time you've actually enjoyed genuine video game discussion on 4channel? Be honest.

>get tired
>breaking point
To me it seemed like they just didn't care, apart from falling for some Fatlus memes and SMT shitflinging every now and then. Its a really sharp infantile change and usually people grow wiser as time passes.

I don't like smash either. Stop projecting.

>When's the last time you've actually enjoyed genuine video game discussion on 4channel? Be honest.
There are many threads that get on with good discussion, persona related was the P5R new trailer one

>I mean the Switch has tons of faults too, but at least it's not just an inferior PC.
yeah, instead it's an inferior leapfrog tablet.

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Imagine liking some self-insert haremshit VN for kumbrains.

What did he mean by this? Nocturne, Strange Journey, and DDS all had good stories

You’re the one seething in a persona thread because whatever game you like doesn’t get as much attention or praise. That’s the root cause of why you would waste so much of your time in this thread being mad about P5.

>What is the Fatlus meme?

>liking fatlus shit

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>Nocturne and DDS
>Good stories

Bragging about being the strongest console is like winning the special olympics, sure you won, but you're still retarded.

>thinks the point of Yea Forums is being angry and shitposting
It’s no wonder you’re a drone that reposts Yea Forums P5 shitposts

It was probably an attempt at gatekeeping Persona fans from SMT because smtfags don't really care about the plot when he seems to focus on it.

I'm not the one getting riled up over any level of criticism towards my favorite game.

yeah, but see, you don't own a high-end gaming pc. you're a nintendofag hiding behind pc to avoid coping with the switch's flaws.

Not them but TWEWY threads tend to be pretty good.

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Let me date Sae please

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Wait, are you seriously suggesting tablets can play vidya like the Switch?
That's a different level of retarded, but not as retarded as trying to win the special olympics like this user put it COPE

>I just wish the last 1/3 of the story was a little more tightly written
I can definitely agree with that.
>and Haru wasn't just awkwardly shoved into the party with no time to really mesh with the group.
She got it pretty bad. Haru is not really in the game much until her brief appearance in Hawaii and after her dungeon, her job is pretty much done. Shinji and Naoto had plenty of screen-time before being a party member. Persona games would be better off with fewer party members

TWEWY is overrated garbage.

Which is why P5 was such a disappointment. Compared to its predecessors, it added more mechanics and offered less meaningful challenge (even in absence of the additional mechanics). The new stuff doesn't get a chance to be fully fleshed out because the game's too easy as it is. At least in P3 (and to a lessor extent P4) the new mechanics were complemented with a higher challenge (compared to your average jrpg of that time).

>phone filename
>low effort shitpost
>waifufag
Like clockwork.

No u

TWEWY threads are horrible circlejerks that drown any criticism out with song lyrics.

I don't know about that, there was not enough new mechanics on P3 coming from P2 to make it a challenge, same for P4G new mechanics making the game easier

Get as mad as you want, a collection of pixels will still be more desirable than you, tranny/roastie

A masterpiece

And full of people discussing the gameplay, memes, story, and characters.

yes

I think P5 is good because the combat and all that felt much more like a regular SMT game compared to P3 and P4, so I enjoyed it more.

>wrpg's text
Please dear fuck tell me that you made this up for the sake or shitposting, and that no games actually included that shit.

This
You literally can't go back to P3/4's shadows after you've had a taste of P5. For that reason alone P5 is better than them.

>phoneposter lashing out with buzzwords
You can't make this up.

Can you explain? The combat itself felt like streamlined P4 with some new gimmicks thrown in and basic ass shuffle time swapped with basic ass negotiations.

I can post on my drawing tablet if I want to
You probably can’t afford one lol

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Nigga the game has a LOT of faults, the story and post two of the end game dungeons being one of them.
Not only that but they locked the most important battle mechanics behind a stat locked social link.

Say Persona's dialogue is better. Say it.

>The combat itself felt like streamlined P4 with some new gimmicks thrown in and basic ass shuffle time swapped with basic ass negotiations.
Only good things, negotiations coming back were perfect

>the story and post two of the end game dungeons being one of them.
And what faults were them ?
>Not only that but they locked the most important battle mechanics behind a stat locked social link.
Which one ? if you say Star you must be joking

Every new addition was good. Negotiations >>>>>>>> shuffle time
Having demons also makes it way better

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P3 and P4 are worse due to the absolutely stupid social links that basically force you to play on a specific route in order to complete all of them

This is literally Yea Forums: the post

Both are saying the same shit, difference being one is a young teen living a mostly normal life outside of demon killing while the other is a centuries old succubus which existance is a paradox.
But no, WRPG-kun and his cronies have to shit everything up

But those were really minor and the combat itself as a whole is hardly different. I don't see how it feels all that more like a regular SMT game compared to nu-Persona.

Negotiations, demons instead of shitty generic shadows, heaven actually doing something, good difficulty, etc.

I said
>compared to your average jrpg of that time
Stuff like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest where the common strategy is literally attack, heal, attack, heal, attack, heal. P3 was the first smt game to hit mainstream and its was a breath of fresh air compared to the repetitive formula of other jrpgs of the time. It was also much harder compared to them too.

>dehh there are more things in life than you have experienced, you should experience more things
>wow so deep

>the common strategy is literally attack, heal, attack, heal, attack, heal. P3 was the first smt game to hit mainstream and its was a breath of fresh air compared to the repetitive formula of other jrpgs of the time.
P3 is exactly that too but with some buffs from time to time

You retarded? the way morgana and ryuji behave during the entire okumura dungeon lead up. Ryuji keeps getting made fun of even after he almost dies.
Shido's master conglomerate plan doesn't do anything after the ending despite him having all these high profile people in his pocket.
Space ship boss is literally just a mob rush making it the worst boss fight.

>Being able to switch out teammates on the fly is not necessary or is a joke.

This is a persona 5 fag everybody, game is perfect and has no issues.

I like JRPGs and I want to play P5 but most of the praise I hear for this game boils down to "I hate JRPGs and this game understands JRPGs are boring". Can anyone confirm?

Persona's dialogue is better.
Easily.
That other shit would have me chuckling at the attempts to be "suh deep", constantly.
L-like, multiverses, duuude!
I love reading, but wasting my time by making each sentence twice as long as it needs to be while adding literally no fucking content to the sentence is just pathetic.

I liked Futaba until I came to the point where it became clear she wasn't a playable party member. Hate that dumb fucking gimmick that someone has to be the "radar character" like Rise in Persona 4.

Why do Nocturnefags pretend the entire series is Nocturne.

>the way morgana and ryuji behave during the entire okumura dungeon lead up. Ryuji keeps getting made fun of even after he almost dies.
It all makes sense if you pay attention to what Morgana was feeling ever since Futaba got into the team, Ryuji being made fun after almost dying too as he laughed at the girls crying for him
>Shido's master conglomerate plan doesn't do anything after the ending despite him having all these high profile people in his pocket.
He was their head user and Joker literally needs to go to jail to make him stay in jail
>Space ship boss is literally just a mob rush making it the worst boss fight.
Nah there is still the rat mazes and some other stuff
>Being able to switch out teammates on the fly is not necessary or is a joke.
Yes it its, considering that is a new addition to the series and you can end the game without it

>most of the praise I hear for this game boils down to "I hate JRPGs and this game understands JRPGs are boring"
don't be a retard user, that is not what it is praised for.

Ha!
Ha!
No Nintendo Switch Port

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As someone who hates JRPGs, I hated this game too. Fuck Persona-shills for memeing me into sinking 10 hours into this game.

>Playing for 10 hours before stopping
Do you have autism ?

>Space ship boss is literally just a mob rush making it the worst boss fight.
>Nah there is still the rat mazes and some other stuff
Oh i misread this one, Okumura boss fight being a mob rush made him unique

>hates JRPGs
Yes, he does.

sorry they didn't zoomer it up for you like tabata did with ffxv. they kept what worked and improved on what p4 was still missing.

I think you've forgotten how simple the combat of old jrpgs of that time was. Take FF7 for example. Status alignments and buffs/debuffs were pretty moot and did not affect the outcome of fights (save for maybe petrify). Elemental strengths and weaknesses were just a little extra damage. There was no taking extra turns or stuff like knockdown. Pretty much your only options was "hit with your strongest attack" or "heal". The only way you could go game over was if you died due to attrition (ran out of an endless supply of cheap items) or you suffered a full party wipe (most likely underleveled). You can argue that "P3 is exactly that too but with X" which yeah you're right. But X is exactly what made it stand out for its time.

I love JPRGs and P5 is the best game ever

Don't worry, I've hated it since I had to endure that fucking nonsensical, smug plot twist

idort masterrace, I get to enjoy Joker in Smash Bros and play P5, stay mad snoy!

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The SMT's was that too at the time, you could even say Persona 1 more system is a simplified version of the SMT press turn, both DDS and Nocturne came before P3

How can he be talking about DDS when he said SMT?

I don't think the quote is anything special but motherfucker it's Planescape, traveling the multiverse of different planes is the whole point of the game, it's like complaining about a time travel plot in back to the future.

Most incorrectly refer to anything that is not Persona in the Megaten as being on the SMT umbrella

sorry people are waking up and finding out your glorified visual novel is fucking boring, tedious, and all around just garbage

Whats the story behind that again? He thinks video games are too rightwing or something

Futaba's arc, her and Sojiro's s-links are the only good thing about P5.

I actually hate SMTniggers. All you do is fling shit at each other. Nocturne sucks, nocturne is the best game. Persona 5 is the best persona. Fuck persona 4. Persona 3 is the best JRPG ever, no it isn't you retard go kill yourself. Ann dono is so kawaiii !!!!! Oh no it's an Ann waifu faggot so he has shit taste. I wanna fuck haru forehead!!

Seriously all you smt niggers and Personadrones need to get off this board.

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But Persona is set in the multiverse, user.

I think it's just a bit of a stockholm's syndrome with this series. 3 and 4 were the most bareback JRPGs you could get in terms of gameplay, and stripped its SMT core of most things that made it fun or interesting while having a narrative centered around pleasing the player's ego. Lo and behold, the last game actually has designed dungeons as a "feature" and the ability to chat with demons to get them. It's still overlong, stupid, self-satisfied and tedious on most of its runtime. At least it doesn't fuck around for 4 hours before letting you play it, thank God.

Based.

Literally delusional non-arguments.

I won't deny, though, that the graphic design is pretty handsome.

>DQfaggot thinks he can talk

enjoy watching smashfag secondaries ruin your threads too, dqfag.

>dragon quest
generic garbage, fuck off you semen slurping retard. i fall asleep playing your trash series.

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>dragon quest
literally the persona of final fantasy, get the fuck outta here cringe ass faggot

Persona 4 incels are on suicide watch because people prefer something different from everyone sucking your dick. Persona 5 is the second best out of the nu-sonas.

DQ fans are so relatively peaceful that the major gripe they have between each other is whether to play the games on their original platforms or through remakes to follow original intent or QoL.

Thanks for beta testing, nerds.

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>SMT fags shit on me for liking persona and for having only played Nocturne.
>Pick up SMT4
>Finish it.
>It was fucking shit from start to finish.
Am I supposed to care what these people think anymore? I hope SMT5 is actually good.

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Lmao. You haven't had a decent thread up since before Joker's introduction in smash. All SMT threads die off or turn into persona shit flinging.
Taking a page outta your own book. The whites were right, all this suffering needs to end.

The fucking smtniggers and Personadrones need to leave Yea Forums

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I do like the balance they struck in P5 honestly, with the overworld models being thematically appropriate P3/4 style shadows that then explode into SMT demons. God I could write a book on all the love P5 gives the entire megaten series but it would be utterly wasted on Persona fans.

>WRPG argument.
>Everyone always sucks off this dry old woman forever like she's some kind of philosophy god
I fucking hate these people.

we havent had a thread up because no actual news has come out for smt 5 yet, just wait retard

>DQfags haven’t had a thread since....
Well at least now you get the pleasure of smashfags secondaries pretending they ever cared about your shit series

That's because all the games are the same lol

>it was shit from start to finish
what did you expect? the game is shitpost fuel. not even SMTfags think it's very good. play strange journey, the only good nintendo smt game.
smt 4 ost is fucking phenomenal though. atmosphere would have been great if it wasn't limited to 3ds hardware.

because there has been no info on smt v, just wait based retard.

Ha

I didn't even have a job for 3/4 of the year and I could still afford both while still affording to eat and drive. There's no excuse except being blindly loyal to a corporation, which is idiotic.

Fuck off nocturnefaggot
SMT IV >>>>>>> Nocturne

>SJ
>good
Stop forcing this meme, it was never funny.

Want me to replicate an smt thread for you? I can do that.

HOYYYYYYYY
HOW DO I BEAT MINOTAUR HES SO HARD?
HAHAHA XD FUCK CHAOSFAGS
BTFO LAWFAGS
LMAOOO THIS GUYS NEEEEUTROLLL
CRINGE HE LIKES SMT 4, BASED HE LIKES RAIDOU. DDS2 SUCKS. NOCTURNE IS BASED HEHEHEH YOSUGA MASTER REASON.
GUYS...DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA FUCK PIXIE???? UHM WHY IS PERSONA SO SHIT?
TOKI GIVES ME A HUGE BONER HHAAHAHA
CRINGE CRINGE BASED BASED ZOOMERS CANT APPRECIATE GOOD GAMES LIKE SMT 2.

So is P2 relevant again? P5R has P2 only enemies.

The only bad thing about SJ is the music. If you think it's too hard get gud, if you don't like the dungeons get taste.

See? All you SMTniggers just point fingers at each other and just tell each other games are shit. Fuck you guys.

>t. ADHD
nothing wrong with a good dungeon crawler. develop some taste nocturnebabby

>series with no new games are full of shitposts
no shit, retard? cringe post, by the way. your shift key is stuck.

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It’s too easy, the combat is complete shit, and the dungeons are the worst in the series. Fuck off you faggot contrarian.

Holy shit based

>dungeons are the worst in the series
Confirmed secondary that hasn't played SMT 1.

P5R trailers are really blatantly setting up for Nyarly to return, so yes. P5 itself was already sold on being a return to form with the actual dungeons and the SMT demons with negotiation returning with them.

SJ is trash. Smt IV and Nocturne are way better, it is a downright embarrassment that they tried to release SJ between them.

You're absolutely right. I fucking hate the SMT and Persona fanbases. Both are god awful.

How can anyone be fucked to get P4R? The original game was a 115+ hour slog to do everything. Who the fuck can be bothered to do that all again for about 15 extra hours of fanfic content.

Even SMT 1’s dungeons are more enjoyable. And SMT 1’s dungeons didn’t ruin everything that made dungeons good before them. I’ll take an important historical SMT game that built up the series over one that shits all over everything that was built up.

Worst girl by far. If you like her you have no taste.

>important historical SMT game that built up the series
That's SMT 2. And it's actually a good game.

Who is this character? I don't remember her.

vanilla p5 already had a lot of p2 references. hopefully with p5r, they'll stop teasing us and just bring philly and nyarly back.

People said the same thing about the base game and it had a fucking sentient cup as the final boss instead of Nyarly.

i don't remember anyone thinking nyarly would come back for vanilla p5. p4 arena, on the other hand...

>Attributing an entire fanbase to a what a few losers say to you online
Yea Forums is really that ridiculous. If want to have good discussion about games, then make a thread where the OP isn't a cock sucking faggot like this one.

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You weren't here on Yea Forums then.

8/10 battle system
9/10 OST
6/10 story
7/10 characters
9/10 waifus
8/10 dungeons

storyfags got BTFO but everything else is not bad.

The leaks regarding fake Igor had people thinking it was Nyarly.

The base game didn't have Lovecraft demons that only appeared in P2, weird real world altering wish fulfillment shit, or ominous tentacles during any of the Persona awakenings Futaba doesn't count because her Persona is the Necronomicon, Kasumi's is Cinderella which has no relation to anything tentacular.

>idiot OP thinks some handful of overactive retards shitposting on Yea Forums is "popular opinion"
YOUSE GENIOUS, DIPSHIT

I maintain that the reason he didn't come back for P4A was because it was a spinoff that wasn't even developed by Atlus. If it were a main game with the same plot it would have been Nyarlathotep.

Still better than your average Persona thread tbqhfam

It's a different breed of shit, and Persona doesn't suffer from a content drought of things to talk about. SMT threads will recover.

SMT is dead

Not yet

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keep dreaming waifufag

>no news in 2 years
Why even bother posting that?

One thing, is the dude that composed IV and IV:A still around for V?

Except SMT was way more than that. What's the difference between taking Red XIII vs Tifa to a boss fight in FF7? The answer is pretty much nothing. What's the difference between taking Heat vs. Argilla to a boss fight in DDS? The answer is a whole lot of pain if the enemy uses ice attacks. What's the difference between fighting Motor Ball and Genova 1 in FF7? Pretty much nothing. What's the difference between fighting Mot and Surt in Nocturne? Surt's main threat is overwhelming fire attacks while Mot's threat is heavy buffs. Both require unique different strategies to beat with no similar comparison to FF7's bosses. You can't not say that the SMTs were "just" attack, heal, and attack again. There was a whole lot more going for them.

persona 5 development was even quieter, though that game turned out shit. maybe it's a sign.

Why does no one have patience anymore?
I believe he is, SMTV's OST is pretty much confirmed to be kino.

Worst thing is, the user shilling these images doesn't even realize how stupid they are.

>vaporware

can't imagine anyone else.

This is true for SMTniggers too. All they do is shit on other JRPGs.

Yea Kozuka is still bumping around, working on SMTV since he hasn't done anything else save for some remixes for P3D and P5D. SMT for all intents and purposes is the Ryota Kozuka show now.

Yes, Kozuka is in charge of V.

They -could- have gotten Meguro, he composed Strange Journey.

isn't he working on hackshino's reverse isekai bullshit?

SJ soundtrack was garbage

Fucking nice.

>though that game turned out shit
Here's the (you) you were fishing for, be sure to take it back to reddït!

>Meguro
Is a meme

Come on it wasn't bad at all, it fit the maximalistic intentions of the game in the mid-dogshit DS audio chip.

Can agree.

Probably.

SJ soundtrack was fine, but there really wasn't much variety. songs were cool but overstayed their welcome, especially the battle theme.

SJ's soundtrack was absolutely horrendous, it's easily the worst in the series. Even the early games had some really catchy tunes, SJ just has annoying bombastic orchestras and obnoxious chanting. Meguro's soundtracks in general are sub-par for the series, P3 and P5 are outliers, P4 is mediocre and the P1 remake was a fucking trainwreck. Even Nocturne has the weakest soundtrack of the numbered titles.

Autism

>P1 was a fucking trainwreck
holy shit, why does nobody talk about this? the remixes were insanely bad. DDS1 and 2 still remains Meguro's peak.

Everybody, absolutely fucking everybody, talks about how P1's PSP remake was fucking awful when P1 at all shows up in the discussion.

A lot of his best work isn't even featured in Persona at all yet it's all he ever gets lauded for. Yeah he's a meme, lotus juice is too.

that's weird because i never see anyone mention it. granted i don't enter persona threads very often, guess that's just the nature of pre 3 persona discussion.

SMT-fags go out of their way to shit on other JRPGs.
Persona-fags get overly defensive and can't take even mild criticism of their games.

SMT-fags are different but not really better.

>If want to have good discussion about games, then make a thread where the OP isn't a cock sucking faggot like this one.
Those don't get replies, silly.
The only way to make a thread survive is to make it controversial.

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>game

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i should add i'm talking about the remake's soundtrack in particular, not the game.

His orchestra/string tracks are terrible. Meguro is only great at this type of music:
youtube.com/watch?v=fkVzYsxGZiA
youtube.com/watch?v=3UEH3A3mqi8

Literally this

posting unreleased instrumental meguro kino
youtu.be/h4HXKlJRn-U

I feel vindicated in a way. I beat it in the month it came out and thought it sucked then but was told that was impossible and i was just trolling. Now more people are dogpiling it as the veneer of shitty sony exclusivity fades away.

>Has to give examples from games that were made 10+ years ago because all WRPGs are fucking shit now
Sure showed them.

>That bass

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Sounds like you have a severe case of shit taste

>implying

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It's a good game. Yeah it's possible to complete it in a month, I usually finish JRPGs in 2-3 weeks unless work schedules me for extra days.
It's just not a GREAT game.

>one of the few modern WRPGs that isn't gutter trash is his argument
any other examples besides divinity OS? (which isn't even very good)

Joker being a lazily slapped together Smash character kinda gave people a bad impression of it

meant to reply

I know that Jack Frost will probably be an AT in the next game but I'm still outraged that SMT demons didn't even get referenced as SPIRITS. It's fucking retarded. At least Dragon Quest wasn't a full retard moment like that and has monsters AND party members.

>i'm OUTRAGED over my party game dlc
fuck off retard. the farther smt is from smash the better.

Not made by Burgerfarts

No, fuck YOU, get over your fucking elitism. SMT being referenced in one of the most popular series fucking ever would be a majorly good thing, especially since Joker is in to represent it in the first place and does a piss poor job of it. Literally only four moves from the games and then the rest is 'rebel's [x]' bullshit that doesn't even have anything to do with P5, it's fucking sad.

Why are SMTfags so insufferable? Is it the accumulated salt from their series being ignored for so long?

>actually wanting to be in smash

spoken like someone who thinks their game is more important than it really is.

I wanna nut on futaba's glasses

This. No one in their right mind wants that sort of cancerous fanbase hovering over your favorite series. Shit is beyond me.

I really really really just want to see something from the actual god damn game instead of being bombarded with info of Royal.

Persona has been ruined at least on Yea Forums because Joker is in Smash. You really want SMT to go through that?

Casual reminder that if Akechi looked like this guy there would be no debate over him deserving everything that's coming to him.
>Akechi is a CHILD
>Shido made him do it!
>Akechi dindunuffin he's a good boy that can be REDEEMED
>They don't forgive him they just give him a chance to do the right thing!
These are only arguments being brought up because he's fujobait, if he didn't look like he does nobody would care because he's a fucking scumbag

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Haru!

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Why would you ruin my wife like this

I bought this game today on sale, what am I in for?

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Being told to go to bed

Enough content to last you the summer. As for its quality, debatable to say the least. You already have fanart, so you might as well play it.

Well considering you're already posting pictures of the characters before you've played the game, probably a lot of jerking off and not actually playing/finishing it, dumb waifufag.

Better?

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The best game ever, you just made the most important decision in your life.

>I can't think of a SINGLE reason people like Futaba!
she's flat

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>Morgana's shitty arc
god don't remind me, what the fuck were they thinking giving a character who's already annoying an "arc" where he gets angry at everyone and runs away for no good reason and everyone acts like you miss him dearly when really no one who plays it gives a shit? not to mention it happens in the worst dungeon and like you said shafts haru even more than she already was and completely kills any chance of her being a character
watch as R doesn't change anything about this at all except maybe have haru appear like 1-2 times in the background earlier in the story

no

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You better don't mess with any other P5 girls like this...

No.

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It's mostly Aigis, commissioning weird fetish stuff of her right now

I hate Futaba, I can tell you that much

I hate you

Faggot