No mini map is the best change in years we have to stop the COD shitters

PC is opt in for console and it's also based on input method so no KBM vs console

>3 lane maps bad

the maps showed off look like bombed out colorless abominations. Seriously you guys think those randomly places buildings are good map design?

No mini map will just encourage camping. HC is a massive camp fest.

I always used to play Hardcore mode which doesn't have a minimap anyway. I can handle not having one for the first 15 levels of multiplayer progression before unlocking HC again.

Aren’t the most popular COD maps 3 lanes anyway?

my dad also works for activision and he says you're a great big liar faggot

>HC is a massive camp fest.
if anything it's a consequence of how easy you get killed

CoD hasn't had good map design since MW2, so at this point I'd settle for anything that's not deliberately designed to reduce gameplay to whack-a-mole with guns.

dualshockers.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-will-have-uncapped-frame-rate-fov-slider-and-more/

retard

Fuck off you Modern Warfare 2 brony

>camping

lmao how you getting camped in modern CoD? The maps are specifically designed so that there's always more access points to a place than a person can cover and you can never fully watch your back. Just throw a grenade nigga shit

The CoD community REALLY hates any kind of tangible skill gap. It's the reason they hated IW.
This one still looks sort of okay, though. Snipers have been clearly nerfed to shit only because you strafe so fucking slowly any kind of corner peek quick scoping will be impossible to execute, but for dumb mindless auto spamming it looks like an okay game to play for a year or two
However, it being CoD means it'll be deader than a graveyard after 2 months of release on PC, no consolefags will play with the crossplay option on and their matchmaking is so terrible finding matches takes minutes anyways (also no dedicated servers even in 2019, fucking jews)

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>no mini map
>we want the Siege audience

>reduce gameplay to whackamole guns
>MW2 MAPS ARE DA BEST ME WANT MW2

>dualshockers
Nice clickbait faggot, post a real source next time.

Outside of Arma 3, BF3, and Halo 3 at their respective heights, nothing is better than a good cod game

Cod finally got rid of all that stupid advanced movement jetpack bullshit. We're back boys.

Grenades have been garbage in CoD for years now.

COD hasn’t been peer to peer since black ops 1. Everyone’s precious MW2 used peer 2 peer.

>he didn’t play WW2

What’s with all the people acting like COD players when you all clearly stopped playing.

Shroud said the game feels a lot more like Insurgency

Shroud got his ass kicked by console players

I'm not playing le nazi bad game

Cool

console players have aim assist

>no dedicated servers

When’s the last time you played COD? Let me guess Modern Warfare 2 since that’s the last “good one”

So does Shroud

Samefag why do you hate MW2 so much? Did you get triggered by its lobbies?

>also no dedicated servers even in 2019, fucking jews
The gamers have only themselves to blame for this, almost the entire steam group dedicated to boycotting black ops or whatever for no dedicated servers ended up buying the game anyway.

Lol

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KBM doesn't have aim assist. There was an exploit that let you in previous games but its not present in this game.

Whatever happened to those black ops 3 mod tools?

I did play WW2 and yes they were good in that one. I didn’t count it because this board is full of Treyarch fags who hated it.

it was modern warfare 2

IT WAS MODERN WARFARE 2

BLACK OPS 1 HAD DEDICATED SERVERS WE ARE ON THE INTERNET HOW LAZY ARE YOU THAT YOU CANT SEARCH UP MW2 DEDICATED SERVERS GROUP

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MW2 didn't have dedicated servers either. The last "good one" was COD4 but it was also the start of it going to hell.

I admit that this game interests me, especially if they really are having 100 player big battlefield situations that are probably gonna reuse some of that code and animation work from Blackout last year. But I also know Activision is going to ram that big veiny microtransaction cock up the game's ass a month or two after launch, if even that, and I really don't like supporting CoD anymore besides wanting to reacquire the older games.

>stop bullying MW2!

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The fact some on Yea Forums have the brain to say they are more hardcore than COD casuals yet seeing the posts on this thread make me doubt the claim.

That's more down to the game design than it is the lack of a minimap.

Long respawn times, low life...you want to avoid moving.

Modern warfare does not have ounce of Treyarchs shitty code

wut

It’s a joke Shrouds been accused of being a hacker.

Havent played cod in 5 years or so but I saw a video on youtube of this new one and it has night time maps now with proper darkness. seemed cool desu

if they add large scale maps then ill buy it

I don't see a massive mode like that not using the netcode from a prior game to make sure shit works.

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Don't care that much about this game but I keep seeing battlefield e-celebs everywhere claiming that this will "affect" the series and DICE needs to step up.

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they also have a nuke to strive for again

mostly because apparently it will have its own 50 vs. 50 mode with actual pilotable vehicles and everything. so the BF community are freaking out about this game stepping on DICE's toes

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corner peeking is based on that corner mounting you do now, I think they wanted to at least partially dull the awful effects of low tickrate that corner peeking and prefiring had, so you have to do a like half second animation to glue your gun to a wall, then you can swivel in and out of cover to aim.

As has "camping"

The night mode looks fun.

Yep. First few matches I tried sprinting frantically and did poorly. Eventually I just planted my ass and raked in the kills. TTK is low even for cod, plus changing which direction you move in takes time, no more 180 dropshots. Feels different but still like cod, i'm cautiously optimistic.

He's a pro player though so he kinda has to say this

REEEEEEE

What am I looking at and why should I care?

the only mode i've ever played in cod for more than a few minutes is tdm, and my time spent playing that is about 50% looking at the minimap. do not think i will be able to play this game
i skipped IW and barely played ww2 because i hated it, but unless the footstep audio is the way it was in ghosts, removing the minimap is absolutely skill gap compression. ghosts was the game where i probably spent the least amount of time looking in the top right corner because the footsteps were awesome

I honestly thought the epic games store would be a repeat of this situation
I'm glad gamers proved me wrong.

>skill gap compression
What that mean?

Apparently the gunshots are so loud you can't hear shit.

>CoD hasn't had good map design since MW2
>designed to reduce gameplay to whack-a-mole with guns

Never seen more correct statements on Yea Forums. The design philosophy behind MW, WaW, MW2 seemed to be focused on making organic maps that catered to every type of playstyle on the weapon list. There were sections of each map with close quarters, medium open spaces, and large open sightlines. Some maps were smaller and tighter, some bigger and more open, but always leaned this way or that on that trifecta balance that seemed actually thought out.

By MW3, maps may as well have just been LEGO dumped out on the floor and you're playing between the pieces. The maps are just interconnecting alleyways and rooms specifically made to encourage and throttle down gameplay to that "run forward and shoot everyone who pops up in front of you until you're shot in the back" gameplay that shitters loved and gets ruined by defendable positions, large open sightline areas, and non-directed areas. After Nuketown's novelty of brainless easy kills from cramping everyone into a small space with easy to aim down lanes, they obviously decided that every map should be like Nuketown. Eliminate sniping, eliminate variations in playstyles, eliminate map flow, restrict gameplay to the most popular form, brainless run and gun.

Competitive still has it so only pub shitters need to be concerned.

in this case it means taking away a tool that good players rely on in order to hamstring them. meaning there will be less difference between what a good player can do and what a bad player can do. the gap in skill between the two parties has been reduced by whatever extent a good player uses a minimap for awareness and knowing where to go to flank, etc
wonderful. the cardinal sin of cod games is the swiss cheese maps where you are likely to be shot from 13 angles no matter where you are on the map. that's also skill gap compression to the above user. you need footsteps and limited, manageable angles to check, or you need a minimap
and it's not like cod maps are known to have good respawns. and i also believe revenge spawns are 100% real and have been for many cods now, but that's just me

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Haha, I was wondering when they'd finally get around to making large scale battlefield conquest a game mode in COD.

>swiss cheese maps where you are likely to be shot from 13 angles no matter where you are on the map

This is the cancer that killed CoD for me and stopped me buying nearly a decade ago. Positioning and situational awareness are essentially rendered pointless because there's always a way for you to get lit up from behind wherever you are no matter how good you are about maintaining 360 vigilance and trying to cover your flanks or back.

And there's no stealth elements whatsoever because there's only one way to get anywhere. Way back in MW, if I wanted a positional advantage on a map like overgrown, I could pick a route through the map that was slower and extremely low profile, but also least likely to get me exposed and shot. That option literally does not exist anymore because the devs laid out singular routes from point A to point B and they're always dangerous. There's no trade off anymore for patient players.

It's their fucking livelihood to play these games, of course they shill them.

They had a gamemode like that way back in World at War.

Shit like this explains why I can still enjoy MW1 or BO1, even with bots, while those free weekends of MW3 and BO2 were nothing but infuriating messes of death from every corner.

>competitive keeps minimap
U wot. Fucking backwards idiots if that's true, but it's not like it matters because
>competitive CoD

True, but not on this large a scale.

yes. but don't miss the fact that this design also fucks aggressive players over
it is honestly a design decision to give bad players free kills
i haven't played a cod game for a very long time, but my kd was over 3 in black ops 3 and ghosts, which are the two cod games i spent the most time on, so i'm an above average player. and it's just sprinting and shooting people in the back and fighting against what the devs did with the map design by using audio perks and the minimap mostly to look at where your teammates have spawned so you can guess where the enemy is spawning

at least for me, playing the minimap was the whole game. can't think of a cod game where my first streak wasn't uav, and with a couple buddies we had it basically full-time in tdm

Oh I see. So now the only real skills are winning your fights and "controlling the spawns"(one of the most unfun displays of skill ever).

well yeah
tdm is about cycling through spawns and catching people off-guard
it's not about winning gunfights it's about avoiding them by playing the spawns, and getting the streaks going
this is generally possible in most map design, particularly the gayarch 3-lane style
you use all the sound perks, you use whatever smg does best with a suppressor and nothing else, and you play the map/minimap/spawns

that is the game man. it's either that or headglitching

Honestly it baffles me to see people play the spawns so well when they're so fucking broken nowadays. I've both seen and happened to spawn five feet away from the player that kills me three times in a row in different spots on multiple games at this point.

>vehicles that arent killstreaks (this is a first time for the series)
>no killstreak spamming
>big maps
It looks like Battlefield now. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

youtube.com/watch?v=7wiXqK_Q0e0

Depends if there's actually a new Battlefield this year.

the yearly gap for Battlefield games has been 2 years besides Hardline's ill-fated interjection. so you'll have to wait until next year at the least for that.

yes that's what i meant about when i said revenge spawns were probably real.
playing the spawns was 100% of my focus in tdm and it was usually me and a buddy, both of us over 3 kd and like 400spm and another buddy who was terrible at the game maybe .6 kd and then some randoms

the only thing that matters in tdm is being far away from your team on the minimap. that way you know the opposition could spawn anywhere around you. and everyone sprints immediately when they spawn, so if its a cod game with good audio, you hear it and you know you're in their spawn

what im saying is removing the minimap will hurt mostly because you lose the persistent info of where you team is spawning and where they are, and thereby you lose the ability to make a strong guess to where the enemy is spawning

>perfect maps don't exi-

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dexerto.com/call-of-duty/how-will-crossplay-work-modern-warfare-pc-controller-fps-and-more-878057

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It's not a first time for the series

I never used to have much problem reading the flow/schedule of the game/map playing Hardcore sans minimap. Then again that was back on map designs where you could in some ways remove yourself from that flow and observe it rather than being forced to be constantly in the meatgrinder.

Well the minimap isn't totally gone judging by gameplay for MW2019. It's just been turned into a low-point killstreak reward of a Personal Radar so that you have to earn it, but you can still exploit it to your advantage when you do have it up.

If I were to buy a cod game right now, which one is the BEST one right now, multiplayer wise?

personal meaning it is only for you, right?
regardless that is must-run, at least in tdm
is there a vsat equivalent? i just think you need to make a cod game. it's a formula. don't fuck with it. minimap removal is actually a more aggressive change than jet packs

Oh my user. I haven't seen this photo in AGES. I had completely forgotten about this stage. Damn...

Modern Warfare remastered

WW2, BO4, or COD:MWR. I'm a boomer so I like MWR. Very happy a lot of people still play it.

cod ghosts had the best netcode and shooting. really good maps, too
everyone hated it but i believe it is the best cod game and i have to assume i am not alone and theres a playerbase

There are no good CoDs to play right no multiplayer wise. The ones that were good are just going to be hacker lobbies at this point or dead on consoles.

you sure? i tried it and it looked really different. fucking green shit everywhere and there is loot boxes now? is it balanced?

I've never played WW2, but BO4 multiplayer is complete shit. Avoid that game

There's a UAV still, the gameplay here has both a personal radar and a UAV on the following kill, alongside other killstreaks throughout

no idea how the new guns they introduced to MWR fit in the balance of the game, but I'm playing it exactly like how I played COD4. same loadouts. still do well, just like back in COD4

>personal meaning it is only for you, right?
Personal Radar gives it only to you, UAV gives it to your team + has enemy locations.

what about 3?

No mini map is only good if you have ray tracing sound.

From what I've heard the lootbox weapons aren't really any better than the vanilla weapons except arguably the shotguns (but who used shotguns in MW1 anyway?).

And PC players use easy mode mice, so there you go.

Depends if you want to play a CoD with jetpacks, wallrunning, and specialist characters with Overwatch powers. Modern Warfare remastered is going to be your "purest" CoD experience. Watch some gameplay first before spending money in case you don't like the mechanics. And FYI Black Ops 3 has over half the weapons locked behind lootcrates just so you know.

i like it pure but I really liked Advanced Warfare for how fast it was. that shit was fun but i'm afraid its probably dead as fuck right now on ps4

>using an intuitive form of input that still requires the player to be accurate and precise is dubbed "easy mode" by consolebabbies
top kek. Keep justifying your shitty controllers that need the game to cheat for you instead of having any skill because they're so shit. Bonus points to your overall faggotry score if you aren't baiting.

You linking a dualshockers to prove a point is like a liberal cuck mossad shill kike posting a Snopes fact check to prove a point. Get brain cancer and die

Dude you're seriously obsessed with MW2. It was a solid game, why do you blatantly samefag this hard in a cowadoody thread?

Oh wowzy cannot wait forr anotehr Call of Duty that will revitalize everybody that played it when he was 12-16 on playing MW 2 on 360.
Oh wait this will not happen because its is the same formula and you grew up faggot and nothing will bring back that feeling you had because:
1. Your friends from Hig school dont play vidya anymore
2. You have responsibilities so wasting 6 hours everyday is not possible and getting skill is now impossible i you work
3. The chat system that was prevelent in Mw1-MW3 whenyou could hear everybody is not implemented so you dont have any conversations at all because everybody is playing either in groups or alone so shittalking is fucking useless
4. The reason why you feel everything was better was because everything in MW2 was OP. there were a ton of OP weapons but because of "pros" getting angry they reduced viable weapons to 2-3 weapons Max

The only game mode I'd imagine you'd find consistent matches in would be TDM if that's your thing

I fucking hate those 3 lane maps, as the games have gotten faster they’ve just turned the maps into racetracks. Fortunately the maps in this look like MW1 and 2 in that they focus on organically placed enterable structures.

take off the tripcode and maybe we'll talk

I find pulling a trigger on a controller much more intuitive and easy than sterile pointing and clicking desu

I'll never forgive mudslimes for removing this permanently on PC

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>tripfag

>and it's also based on input method so no KBM vs console

Its really easy to spoof a KB/M into being recognized as a controller

Wasn't that simply censored to alter a painting frame

>playstationlifestyle
Snoy
>dexerto
Fake news
>wccfttech
Never heard of it.
Damn user why don't you post a Faux News article as well? I'm sure some mouth breathing, meth smoking, Walmart shooting, sister fucking, Trump voting republitard will believe you.

Wait wut

Why?

Yeah I'm sure it is. Cod is fucking trash built for mouth breathing idiots who wear tapout t shirts and vape juuls.

On PS3 and 360, yes. On PC they never got around to it and it stayed removed.

Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of Yea Forums are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

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i just vape cause i like it and don't wear anything but solid black with no designs. JRPGs are the best genre but COD can be mindless fun. admit it fool

>tripfag
>posts LE RANDOM FUNNY WORDS xD
You won't get an upboat and reddit karma on here. Quit seeking validation from Yea Forums you literal faggot.

Cod games were fun when i was 13. I grew up.

That's why I'm not interested in this game. If I wanted to play Insurgency, I'd play Insurgency.

>vehicles that arent killstreaks (this is a first time for the series)
No, it's not the first time.
>no killstreak spamming
There's a perk that lets your killstreak kills count toward your next killstreak.

>Replay MW3
>Use snipe rifle with impact
>Quick scope to the chest
>At close range
>The enemy didn't die and just turns around and wastes me
What are the chances they won't fix hit detection on body shots?

There was some Arabic word or something about Islam on a picture hung in a bathroom in one of the top floor camp spots. Camel jockeys flipped shit and IW removed the map from rotation on all platforms for awhile. They brought it back with the picture removed on PS3/360 and then completely forgot to patch it back in on PC. But now thanks to mod lobbies I can play the original version of the map.
>tl;dr fuck sand niggers

I just pre-ordered this with the money I made from gain, only took me a few days of minimal effort.

gain.gg/r/home

mario was fun when i was 2 years old. i'm 25 and still play it.

>posting on Yea Forums
>not knowing what fun is
This post checks out. Hop off your high horse for a second and realize no one gives a fuck the last time you had fun with a COD game. Hop out the thread if you wanna passive aggressively seethe nigga

Game isnt out yet and I think I already found the worst map.

youtube.com/watch?v=BJhdourFwA4

Is a specific map where you need night goggles all the time. Fucking annoying.

>That's why I'm not interested in this game. If I wanted to play Insurgency, I'd play Insurgency.
This is one of those things people say to try to sound profound, but they just come off as the manchild who only eats chicken tenders and pizza

>reddit spacing
I hate tripf*gs as much as you. But fuck off, your post seeps reddit

Fair enough, I didn't explain my reasoning at all.

They have day and night cycle in the game and they have gone on to say that certain parts of maps will be dark and require night vision.

Triggered?

That's kino as shit user. Enjoy having horrible taste

"LE EBIN REPUB BTFOS LIBERAL!!!1 #TRIGGERED"
lol enjoy 2020 when your white supremacist dog whistling President loses. He has blood on his hands now

>>/pol/

MW2 might as well be early zoomer version of fortnite. COD was never really good just a place to meet up online and scream nigger and fuck and blast retarded music through microphones and get in arguments with boomers. Shit was just as retarded as fortnight only difference was you couldnt get banned for being an asshole.

They made the game a BF and R6S clone and made the screen shake when you shoot a gun, now "le mature" gamers are eating it up. CoD was best during MW2 when it was still an arena shooter and not a MOBA FPS

Okay, clearly trigger by something.

>That near death at 1:06
and that's when I knew that it's going to be painful having this as a preview of 20v20.

This is the video game board, please go to /pol/ to discuss politics

The pros complained enough, and it's been confirmed in tweets by multiple developers

>activision
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YIKES

Damn this might be the worst map but it still shits all over BO4. BO5 is doomed next year if they stay with the BO4 formula. And I like how quiet it is. I don't have retarded specialists yelling "SCHWACKED" after killing me with some stupid super power

play Insurgency, you casual.

fuck all religious nutcases, in all honesty

Die from stage 4 brain cancer, please.

No, purely Islam. I'm atheist but I still don't remember the last time Christians threatened to kill people over a picture or something to that effect. Christians are whiney cunts but I don't remember them threatening to firebomb Comedy Central offices when Jesus was shown in south park. Now sandniggers on the hand...

>give us a thing that reduces need for gamesense and team communication in our "competitive" mode
top kek

man, you should maybe take some time away from the interwebs if everything is going to trigger you today.

What triggers me is that people still think its okay that Amerikkka has 100 mass shootings a year. And there are people in this thread right now that think its okay that a white guy trump supporter felt the need to take the lives of innocent people in order to divide us as a country. America was built by immigrants, but instead Trump uses trigger words and dog whistles to instill the fact that an invasion is happening. There are insecure, weak-minded white men on this thread right now that are literally waiting to be indoctrinated by Trump. Lets all put down the video games for a moment and recognize the fact that we have a problem with hate in this country. This kid was not a member of ISIS, he was not mentally ill. He was a Trump supporter indoctrinated by /pol/ and Trump to carry out this attack. We have a gun problem, and a weak-minded white male problem in this country.

That's great and all, but what does it have to do with anything you're retarded ass has been REEEplying to?
Take it somewhere else, or better yet go for a walk and calm down.

>yes goyim 3 shekels have been deposited in your account
Fuck Mexicans. I don't hate them enough to kill them but i hope every single dead person at the scene was an illegal immigrant.

"I'm okay with people dying at the hands of entiled white kids"
Listen once 2020 comes around you will have to adjust with being tolerant to others and not thinking its justifiable to kill someone over a difference of politics. Trump supporters are literally as bad (if not worse) than ISIS. Same way of promoting their ideology, different group of people. Keep intimidating others and killing them, you're turning more and voters blue each day this shit happens

>TTK is so low that it's one or two bullets away from Hardcore damage levels
>some of the fastest health regen in the entire series
i can't tell if they're trying to be more down to earth or more hyped up

...

I feel like the ads for the game are doing a good job of tricking me into thinking this was gonna be a good old gay time like all my days spent playing MW1 and 2.

Also Favela is the best map. Fuck your tiny shithole maps

didn't you check the streams? it's mw1/2 map design. Even the map designer of those games is back.

no they don't. no one cared about the map tools of bo3

The vast majority of mass shootings are both not covered by the media but done by non-whites.

I know, I know, you're a mad Drumpfhcel who can't keep him off your mind, but don't get caught up in your own hype.

you'll get some xim shit tier controls. No one cares about that like no one cared about doing this in destiny 2 pvp on pc.

Ah yes. Like how those bastards covered up Bowling green massacre. Fucking libs.

Literally who?

No one. Now go away

The map is actually back in rotation on PC

Mods = Gods

How

>get rid of mini-map for "muh realism"
>players don't know where enemies are and don't know their surroundings without UAV

how does this possibly end well? they will reverse this stupid change if they have any sense whatsoever

>been saying COD is complete garbage since after black ops
>only cod me and my gf play is MWremastered
>actually excited for this cod
What’s happening bros we’re not supposed to like cod anymore

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>guys we made a totally new engine that we will use for next gen!!!
>its literally the worst looking cod of this gen

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>tank
>no destruction
Im out. After bad company 2 a fucking decade ago I just simply wont play a game anymore where a tank cant shoot through a concrete wall.

It means that bad players will perform badly, or better yet maybe they'll even quit

Favela is tiny as hell

the mini-map doesn't even help bad players though. good players make use of the mini-map in ways bad players wouldn't think of, removing it does literally nothing good for the gameplay.

I use it all the time if I hear gunfire, it's nice to glance at the mini-map and see where it came from, stuff like that. gives you just enough intel to not be completely lost, and there are plenty of ways to counter it

Actually no. I was watching people play it on the Livestream and this is the (Night) version of the map. There is a day version too if you watch Shroud's YouTube footage.

The weak will perish.

>COD was never really good
Even if you hate modern CoD, 2 and 4 were great.

>good players use the mini map
Its a crutch. Sure, it makes both good players and bad players perform better. But bad players, who literally cannot orient themselves in a virtual 3d space, would be completely lost without it. Counter strike doesnt have a mini map for a reason.

2 was fine, 4 had a trash campaign. Only Moh:aa and Cod 1/UO were any good.

dont cherrypick retard the shadow draw distance is horrendous but on the ground in urban environments it looks great

The devs said they are removing the minimap to help bad players
clips.twitch.tv/SwissRichCrowVoteYea

I think they're going to chance back, literally everyone is complaining which is a shame, I like the idea

>CoD in 2019

Lmao

the lighting is great too, especially on the night maps. some of those NVG shots look almost photorealistic.

Best maps
>MW2
Best Class system
>BO2
Best unlock system
>BO1

This is facts

yeah it was smart of them to use mostly night time footage in the initial reveal because that shit blew my socks off
the later trailers arent as impressive but it still looks good for CoD

>no mini map
Very interesting, but I'm gonna wait it out.
And for the love of god, fix the fucking map design.

Is fucking horrible, literally everyone spawnkill you from far away, to be honest the game aged like fucking milk and the maps are awful

Hopefully they do fix the shadow draw distance because that shit is jarring as hell, especially now that they have that Battflefield style zoom over the map each time you spawn which shows off how terribly low it is.

The UAV is still in the game alongside a Personal Radar that gives you the base minimap back. But both can be shot down to deny you them.

>Counter strike doesnt have a minimap for a reason
and it will never be half as fun as CoD

Counter Strike does have a minimap though

This game will be broken by 20hz shit servers on launch, mtx p2w guns locked behind 'surprise mechanics' 2 months after launch and fractured playerbase by the 5 map dlc packs they are gonna sell for $5-10 each.

They already said all post launch maps will be free. Of course, that probably means they'll double down on the lootbox skins.

The Enter Sandman trailer opened up my boomer wallet. I'm prepared to go in hard on this game when it releases.

Is it just me or does the screen shake a bit too much when you shoot your gun?

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>EXIT LIIIIIIGHT
>ENTER NIIIIIIGHT
That's apparently quite dependent on what muzzle devices and stocks you set your gun up with.

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Favela and Terminal may not be huge like wasteland but they’re not even comparable to something like Rust.

>fix the fucking map design.
According to the gameplay videos, the maps aren't 3 lanes anymore.

>mini map is for shitters
>not for seeing where your teammates are
Dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. Remove the fucking red dots so dot chasers can fuck off but keep the damn mini map so I can see where spawns are you dumb fucks.

I didn’t even know people had an issue with the mini maps back in the old days. What’s gotten into people?

teammates are useless but seeing where they are is indeed very useful, I forgot about this. holy shit what a bad decision

the game devolves into 90% looking at minimap and running to enemies once you get UAV, it's not fun, but it is kinda why cod is the way it is (kill respawn repeat in an instant)

>It's the reason they hated IW.
That was an amazing game. Obviously you had to either play claw or buy a scuf to be able to do everything with those movements, and I feel like it was probably the case why people didn't like it (i.e. they couldn't do anything with those movement properly). I play claw, and it was so easy to dominate in that game against new players, they literally couldn't do shit when you just jump around + use that skill that teleports you back in time.

People wanted to play MW2 + everyone knew that Activi$ion couldn't care less about some boycotts on PC. Epic Store, on the other hand, no one wants to use. Like, there's literally no point. Yeah sure, there are some games there that you might want to play, but you might just pirate it as well or buy on console.

The problem with IW was that the movement was just too much on console. It's fun on PC but I'd never want to play it with a controller. For one, you have no chance in the game if you use default mapping against tryhards.

Just use a mix of bumper jumper and put crouch on the right stick.

Mw2 had several kino maps

i think the key point is, it looks like a modern warfare game, the game that made everyone fall in love with cod (whether it was mw1 or 2)

I love the way maps look.
This time they did some actual research and managed to capture the look and feel of an ukrainian/russian/belorussian town.
Simply 10/10 aesthetics.
Compared to previous games it's crazy how accurate it looks.

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>For one, you have no chance in the game if you use default mapping against tryhards.
Yep. There must be those paddles on the back already.
You still can't ads and keep jumping at the same time. At least not if you hold the controller the way most people do.
And if you're going to hold it differently, you might as well learn to claw, which is way better.

true, looks like my town here in Ukraine

Point is that CoD is supposed to be casually competitive for most people. People prefer consoles because of comfort and accessibility and if you have to relearn how to use your controller to play it people won't. The problem is multiplats really. We could have a fun jumpy shooty CoD on PC if they just didn't have to find this middle ground everyone can live with.

cod4
bo1
cod2
waw
mw2
mw3
the rest are meh

>tanks have time limit
>still no magazine + 1 in the chamber ammo count
>AMMO BOX IS NOW MAGICALLY AVAILABLE NOW WAIT A MINUTE AN A HALF LMAO

Or just modify the controller, literally one extra button on the back fixes the problem

Ambush hardcore S+D was top tier fun

They won't do that in a billion years. Enhanced movement in CoD is dead because of consoles. Let it go.

Honestly this is one thing I struggle to understand with controllers, like your fingers are on the back of the controller, yet all the buttons are on the front.

PS5 / Xbox Scarlett better at least have paddles or some shit on the back of the controller.

>still no magazine + 1 in the chamber ammo count
why do you give a shit
all it means is you have to watch the reload animation twice

There is no point in skill based gameplay in a game like CoD because CSGO, Overwatch, TF2 and Quake exist alredy.
BO4 is shit exactly because it was geared towards esports. 5v5, nerfed to shit weapons with long TTK and annoying "jumpshot around corners every time" gameplay for tryhard faggots with SCUF controllers.
They actually had to change 5v5 to 6v6 because everyone hated it.
Thank god they're going to scrap this bullshit for CoD:MW.

CoD is literally the new Battlefield game. DICE sucks that much

is that real? in all modes? how do I praise this without sounding like a shill? I've been replaying some old games of the mainstream consoley type and caught myself thinking the radar / minimap takes away from them a lot. it's one of those features that people latched onto because it looks cool rather than because it creates good gameplay. you should be looking and listening at the world around you, not constantly glimpsing at a 2D ranged wallhack. with no minimap there's more room for genuine stealth, genuine game sense and good positional audio playing a role. suddenly positioning yourself so you can hear certain things becomes a big brain play where before it was just "am I in range for it to show on my map?". I wonder how the loyal COD player base will react to it though.

>skill based
>Overwatch
>TF2

lmao

Anyway if you weren't retarded you'd understand that different FPS games serve different types of skill bases. One FPS existing that serves one skill base doesn't preclude all others from existing and make them redundant.

what will suppressors do without the minimap?

There's still a compass with red dots.

Read the thread. The minimap is gone by default, but in modes with killstreaks still around, you can not only get a UAV still, but also grab a Personal Radar which gives you the classic minimap and indicators of where enemies are firing from. Both the PR and UAV can be shot down, though, so you can deny your opponents map coverage and crucial info.

>multiplayer fps that has no servers on PC
>no servers
>on PC

what kind of fucking mp fps doesnt have servers in 2019?

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I want the weapons to work as weapons

hes a fucking ugly faggot loser thats what he is

yeah wtf. CSGO's minimap is also cancer and the game would be much better if you had to listen and think about what's happening rather than seeing the exact position of an enemy. if the devs truly stood by this design they'd just show shooting enemies with straight up wallhack highlighting every time they fire. "hiding" that information away in a minimap that takes time to get used to is FAKE depth.

only reason mw2 was good was because of the modded servers, that allowed crack players in, that way you got more people to play.

>perfect games don't exi-

pretend that when you do a tactical reload the new magazine has -1 round then

Black Ops 1 bad dedicated community ran servers and a browser.

IW was fucking awful, fuck off.

thats retarded

Reminder that Hardcore CoD is easymode.

Who's the absolute worst Call of Duty shill in the community with the most punch-able face you've ever seen and why is it motherfucking Tmartn

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okay so big whoop, all it takes is 2 fucking frags and you get the regular minimap like every other COD and CSGO. obviously once you get this you have a big advantage over everyone except the one or two enemies who are also decent, so you're just rolling on the noobs while avoiding locations where you expect good opponents to show up. once again it turns into 80% looking at the top left and 20% spraying down easy targets. and then you get wiped off the map by a literal nuke which you couldn't have prevented and took no skill to do. nah, fuck COD.

They need to adjust the recoil on the pistols. Not even the primary weapons are that ridiculous.

> it was probably the case why people didn't like it
no.
>so easy to dominate
>when you just jump around + use that skill that teleports you back in time.
It's sweaty bullshit and it's just not fun to play like that.

For the record, underloading magazines is common among people who actually shoot firearms. I don't think this is something worth bothering about.

Not really. I'd say ghosts619, fortunate and karnage clan are a much bigger faggots than trevor martin.
They are less known however and it's pretty clear why, they make shit videos.

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Prestigeiskey

>4 had a trash campaign
Contrarian faggot gtfo

I don't understand complaints about reload realism when the game magically fills magazines for you / you keep your bullets in a magical pocket that fills magazines up. either full SWAT realism or anything goes.

>kill mod community for a decade
>wtf why is there no mod community?

Probably OP and his shill lackeys all over COD threads. Some fag on youtube has no effect on me.

Same.
I play claw, but I'd really like to try those paddles out.

How come?

Shit campaign in just about every way. The copy paste side missions didn't help at all either. And as far as the multiplayer was concerned the maps were terrible balanced and designed. Especially so in regards to the new movement options like the jetpack and the wall running. The maps were clearly not built around their inclusion, yet they were still there. Invisible walls on things that seem mountable is just proof of how bad the maps were, and they were still shittily designed 3 lane maps instead of good ones.

>100 percent guaranteed to be infected by lootcrates/microtransations

Hard pass.

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its just incorrect, not unrealistic
its like everytime you reload a 30 round mag your gun ends having 27 or some shit

>codbabies think this is photorealistic and impressive

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>no paid dlc
so 1 new map a year just like bf5.

Yeah, P2W loot boxes is a hard pass. No matter how good this game may appear to be.

I miss playing this game so much.

It's only fun when playing private matches with friends. The game has been a hackers playground for many years.

>stop the CoD shitters
>in call of duty
if you don't like call of duty why the fuck do you want to play call of duty you god damn moron
removing the minimap just makes the skill gap smaller so braindead morons who don't ever use the map have one less thing to focus on. casualizing the game to an extreme, game's going to be trash. battlefield kids won't like it because it's cod and cod kids won't like it because it's not cod.

Not gonna lie, the gun customization looks dope. Not a big fan of the maps though.

I've only bough 2 CODs in my life. Black Ops 1 and WW2. I've enjoyed the hell of out them. I've also pirated and played with Bots on Black Ops 2 and 3 (because I don't feel like buying them) and they're pretty nice.
Any other recommendations?

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Yeah, it sucks. Maybe they'll remaster the game someday.

>people have to communicate now.
It’s no different from csgo in search and destroy and allows people to be more aggressive pubstomping matchmskjng. It doesn’t remove skill it makes gameplay more interesting. Just use sound and map knowledge like every other fps

>he likes 3 lane static garbage on every single map
Yikes dude