How would you deal with the current mess?
Assuming that there is a magic wand and suddenly Blizzard is again composed by capable people loving and respecting the game and its universe. How could it be done?
Perhaps this current Classic fad could be a way to reset some things in the game's universe and do it better? How would you do it?
take it to /vg/
I'd make it about best girl Sylvanas. Second best girls Jaina and Azshara are also there.
Just cute girls doing cute things.
Thats why you are not on the lore team, because you are legit a jizzbrain unironically.
It was all a dream and start over in classic.
fuck expansions, just continue where you left off with in naxx and new patches are for furthering the fight against the undead.
That's kinda rude coming from a braindead WoW shitter.
Elaborate further we might be onto something here
>everything goes south
>the time dragons sacrifices them selves to rewind time to classic but without them
>thrall and anduin are now girls
I would forget about it and Make Warcraft 4 because 90% of the game is the community and you can't fix that after beating them mercilessly for so long and turning them into Jaded Cynics who hate social interaction in a fucking social game
I'll have you know I'm based, redpilled and 100% pro lgbt but at least i'm not a cumbrian
That was very rude excuse yourself or I will leave your thread immediately. Wow’s “””””lore”””””” is beyond redemption you should be happy for every single person who is willing to put up with it
They painted themselves into the mother of all corners at the end of Lich King. The story is 100% beyond redemption.
>:( I'm sorry.
I wouldnt. You cant save this plot which borders on capeshit tier writing or even parody.
all of the lore figures want to fuck your character and its up to you to choose which one(s)
grade A jizz noggin' right here
You’re forgiven we all get carried away by our emotions from time to time
It all went wrong with TBC and lazerz space goats shit
Don't salvage it plotwise
Throw all the plot into the shitter and turn it into a dating sim/porn game where you can watch your edgy oc fuck lore characters
You seem like a braindead underage fuck that just jumps on every new meme and spam it like the sheep you are. Good for you, child.
These motherfuckers needed to do one simple thing at the end of classic. Either they needed to make the orcs demon worshiping baby eating shit bags like they were in warcraft 2 or they needed to end this alliance vs. Horde farce. The constant faction war and "we need to work together to save the world" see-saw really really sucks.
>for the next few expansions, things start going wrong
>more and more good guys die only trying to kill the lieutenants in whatever big bad is currently happening
>upon realising that we cannot win against [evil character], the bronze dragonflight abandon this timeline and try to start again
>the story is now about re-doing history in a different order and with different methods to achieve the right outcome
And this is how they can then rehash everything, but actually have a clear idea of what needs to happen over the next 5+ xpacs, so it doesn't all feel like a mess of ideas taped together.
Classic > wrath > mop (with someone else getting corrupted) > tbc > returning from outland to find a destroyed overworld (using this as an excuse to squash levels if need be) > fuck with time to try and unfuck azeroth leading to the events of legion.
That would be my general xpac reshuffle. Wod can fuck off, bfa doesn't need to happen, as the islands and whatnot can be done during other xpacs. The final xpac would be an unraveling of everything, where we as heroes end up losing, and each patch is another major battle being lost.
The final patch is azerothians last stand, a kind of "objective: survive!" kind of patch.
t. ideas guy
It was all Illidan's dying dream after Arthas gutted him.
When BC was released it shouldn't have invalidated classic content. This should have been the standard for every expac.
Instead of increasing the level cap give classes access to new niches
BY ADDING MORE LAYERS SO I CAN FARM MORE STUFF FOR ASSMONGO
How the HRT going?
This thread is about story and lore
something nukes the planet or the universe and shit starts again from scratch with only references and few broken relics to the past
just hire better writers lol
How's the coping going?
Have all the lore held within item tooltips and don't put any of that shit directly into the game
Then actually continue the story in Warcraft 4 and just update the WOW maps to reflect
I don't think anyone skilled enough would want to touch this garbage.
considering the one and only expansion with a genuinely good story was WotLK, this is really the only answer
the overall story has otherwise never been the game's strong suit and I think fixing the design problems with the game (which classic will do somewhat) is far more important. the game's been dying because they rip out everything good to reinvent the wheel each expansion, not because the plot or characters suddenly got less interesting.
wtf?? michael jackson would roll in his grave talking this way to his cousin. prepare to get arrested
There is still decent writing in the finer details, but the overall story direction is very very badly portrayed. That Saturday morning cartoon villain shit with the Battle of Lordaeron? fucking yikes..
Not sure what direction I'd go in at this point. I was surprised they opted to slap Azshara/the Naga into a patch and say that's that. I guess people didn't like Vashj'ir, but I still thought they were gearing towards a deep sea expansion. Especially with that great quest in the campaign where you are forced to play around a light mechanic on the ocean floor. Seemed like the obvious route to take after MoP, before WoD disintegrated any consistency the story had.
>t. semenskull
Wotlk was easily one of the worst with tbc.
Ruined Wc3 characters like tbc, and introduced "story driven gameplay" full of cringe cinematics.
>Wotlk was easily one of the worst with tbc.
TBC was infinitely worse for it than wrath was
Have sex incel son of a whore
Why is your kind plaguing my board, normalfag?
>Fire Christie Golden and tell her she's a talentless hack
>Fire that fat fuck who made Nathanos his self-insert and memory hole his character
>Have some sort of event which alters the current cosmology of WoW, or just memory hole all of the bullshit that Christie changed in recent years
>Have some sort of relative period of peace where leaders can be changed, have time to mature and we can stop with the constant forced faction conflict
One of the main issues with the game now is that the lore and the world is a hodge podge of conflicting ideas, concepts and is full of inconsistencies. The unfortunate reality of this is that you're going to need to do something to wipe the slate clean to establish consistency again.
Warcraft girls chibi spinoff animation when?
It's already been leaked
8.3 - inside sargeras sword
Next expansion - Shadowlands
Don't forget that the Naga xpac came right on time in the Summer. Couldn't have picked a better time for a sea campaign.
Scrap everything since the fall of Lordaeron/Andorhal. Build the whole game around that story line and see it rebuild step by step. Then have the Scourge recover/attack another part of the world to fight it there /repeat.
The expansions shouldn't have raised the level cap and invalidated all the content before it. I'm not sure of the best way to do this, but all the end game content in each expansion essentially was erased every expansion. Maybe each expansion could have introduced new content for all levels 0-60, and also introduced new races / classes, or even new permanent / unalterable attributes, so that people could re-roll and experience it. Because vanilla didn't actually have a lot of classes or races. Basically, horizontally scale content instead of vertically stacking it which cut off content and turned the earlier levels into a grind.
I'd generally keep vanilla mechanics. I think TBC tried to turn PvP into an esports thing, the introduction of PvP specific stats like resistance, and the obsession with balance (which didn't even balance things that well) really broke the immersion. It really annoyed me the stat description literally references "other players." Then cata dumbed down talents and skills, so that it was impossible to gimp yourself I guess, maybe to appeal to a broader base of more casual players. But it essentially just programmed cookie cutter builds into the game instead of like vanilla where you felt your character was unique in cata you just because a cookie cutter class-spec. You have to make it so its possible to gimp a character and not be so obsessed with balance.
>t. ideas guy
Cringe
kill yourself and your family niggerfaggot
Put it to death and start over, none of it ever happened.
WoW2 would be a new innovative mmo, blizzard could be pioneers again, paving the way for a new wave of half assed clones.
>fucking pandas
t. ideas guy
>cringe
Retcon everything post mists away.
These are actually good suggestions.
The question is what kind of event could do that? Perhaps a global, memory-affecting, spell?
I fear that if we use time travel various shenanigans might come back and bit the story's ass again.
>Defending and wanting in any way to be connected to nu lore
To be fair, I kinda understand blizzard decision to have each new expansion ignore and delete everything that came before. Most modern players don't want to do content in "old" zones, to them it feels like they are just back tracking, as we can see from the people complaining about the rep requirements for the allied races.
Time travel would be the easy out. Hell, it practically writes itself.
>Add raid in Caverns of Time
>Infinite dragonflight is at it again, but this time, they actually succeed in altering Azeroth's timeline
>But not for the reasons they really wanted, they just fucked up things royally for everyone involved
>Azeroth's legions of murderhobos end up in a new timeline and no one really knows what's changed and what hasn't
>Everyone returns to find that the classic WoW map is back, but with some new stuff to do as well
>Classic faction leaders are back, but the overall story and timeline is more rooted in Warcraft's older lore
>post mists
That's a funny way to write "post-Warcraft III"
you will never drop diversity hires so shut the fuck up nigger
Didn't they fire a bunch of literal whos doing nothing to hire more devs?
blizz just gotta do the classic "they we're good guys all along" and let the trainwreck commence
They should hire the eternally based HOTS designers to replace those attrocious models they have in retail. FUCK the story at this point.
> muh dark souls
Absolutely retarded in this instance and doesn't make sense. You're just attacking this evil castle full of space elves for no reason?
she looks way better in hots
I know
She does. All hots models look better than their wow counterparts
>story driven gameplay means it has a bad story
>ruined WC3 characters by fleshing them out
>worse than space aliens, catashit, fucking pandabears, dumbass time travel, iLlIdAn rEdEmPtIoN, and the abortion of BFA
bruh
hnng
>Caring about the plot of a video gams
>How would you deal with the current mess?
Go back to change the Warcraft 3 campaign and everything onward.