Mouse Thread

G305 literally lasts 10-12 months.

As for the G.Pro Wireless, you literally have the option of leaving the wire in and it's still the best mouse. Having the option of an 80 hour charge is a bonus. If you think there is input lag, you're retarded.

fpbp

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guilty

Nobody cares about you MMO trannies. All those numpad mice are too heavy and have mediocre sensors.

Two buttons are less than 15. I like 15.

Don't even play MMO's. having that many buttons is beneficial for any game except casual idle game fagshit

>Razer Deathadder
Good for claw grip, well rounded mouse, excellent sensor, but razer and they break.
>Logitech G402
Excellent mouse for palm grip, and layed back playing. Poor sensor, but you can float your hand on it. Super comfy
>Logitech G502
Very heavy, only good for palm grip or fingertip.
Good sensor, but the weight and stiff cable make it unusable for any FPS game, only good for casual/MMO's, even then it's heavy enjoy carpal tunnel.
>Corsair M65
Too fucking heavy, back feels annoying in palm, utter trash why are you even looking at corsair mice they suck
>Corsair M55
Really light, flicks everywhere, nice cable, any sensor 3325-3360 is god tier, they all feel the same anyway. Liftoff distance is high, so shitty.
Ambi mouse, but the cutoff on the right is deeper than the left, so righties end up having their pinky clutch the side and you lose grip, and chafe your pinky. Good if you're a lefty, and good for all grip styles.
>Logitech G500
God tier mouse, laser sensor cause only scrubs use optical. Literally the chad of gaming mice. Top tier ergonomics, can be used in all grip styles, Left or Right, allows you to scrub the floor with the faces of dead zoomers in CS GO. (doesn't work on glass)
>Cooler Master MM531/530
Light mouse, good feel, like a deathadder but more slanted down up front to be able to have a palm grip. Can play any style grip, right hand orientated, God tier sensor (3360).
Cheapest mouse on this list, at $31 including Tax, with a 2 year warranty, and a 3360 sensor. Best value for the money, highly suggest going for one. Have it right now, it's really good but my favorite will still be the feel of the G402, then again i have big hands.
t. 7.4L x 4W inches.

The G502 is god tier if you take out the weights

cont.
>Fnatic Clutch 2
For me this is the best mouse ever made, literally took me from DMG into Supreme.
Amazing design, can play claw or palm, you can even float your hand. It's a deathadder bellowed out at the top, mouse literally cradles into the hand. God tier sensor (3360) God tier software, simple easy to use.
Is blessed with the power of cArn.
Shitty warranty, bestbuy 30 day or send it back to bongland.
Mousewheel broke in 1 week of bunnyhopping, shitty quality control.
Still better than shitty deathadders and final Memes, this mouse is medium weight, not too heavy, not light either.
Really recommend it if you live in bongland, or you don't care about bhopping, for me the scroll wheel fell out of alignment, and kept hitting something.
I think the flick 2 is the smaller version.

Whats wrong with naga epic chroma?

>take out weights
>still 125g
>meanwhile the g.pro wireless is 80g and a way better shape
Hmm...

I have abusive macros bount to 7-12 so I can abuse on the go, and 1-6 bound for hotkeys. I have no idea about the weighting or sensor quality, I just bought it for the buttons.

People who complain about the weight of mice crack me the fuck up. How weak are your little bitch arms/wrists that a few extra grams is too heavy for you

What a shit list.

>deathadder in D
>naga in F

Kill yourself.

steelseries rival 500 good

>G502 literally the #1 top selling gaming mouse
>d Tier

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>G.Pro
>Double clicking intensifies

bruh, nice

>No MX518 Legendary on the chart
Okay, there's no G400 either, I mean what

G900 is great, charge for 1 hour a week using USB, can still use it while charging.

Deathadder is shit, it's way too big and they break retard fast.

>Big Bang Theory literally the #1 watched show
>d Tier

Have a 403. I can attest to its near perfection.
>good weight
>good feel
>long battery that recharges quickly
>no noticeable loss of performance compared to 400
I didn't think I'd find something I liked more than my old 400, but this is it. Not having a wire feels great.

Nobody, and I mean not a single person on this planet has ever had to use even half of these. What a fucking pointless list.

It would be perfect if not for the almost guaranteed scroll wheel reversing or double clicking after less than a year of use

i may need a new mouse, had my deathadder for a good 5 years and i've fixed the mouse wheel on it countless times, but the double clicking is driving me absolutely crazy.

Haven't had that with mine, but that would piss me irritate me to no end.

Just replace the scroll encoder just like I did

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My MX518 still works and on the day it finally fails I have a boxed copy of the MX518 Legendary ready to go. Fuck your other mice.

Just start using the new mice? how much of a cheap bastard are you

why are some razers shit and others good? don't they all need a proprietary botnet to work?

>buying logitech
lol

It's top selling because it appeals to morons like yourself, who think more buttons + gamur aesthetic = good mouse.

>dude just replace your working product for no reason
If my 518 lasts another decade it will just show how much better built it is than your new shit.

How fucking small are your hands? I have smallish hands and find it the perfect fit and also had it for 3 years now with no issues

Newer Razer Mice like the Viper have on-board memory, which means you can uninstall the software.

Razer's problem has traditionally been poor lifespan. This is a typical Apple technique to force you to buy their newer products as older ones fail. That being said, one of the good parts of the Viper is the new opto-mechanical switches, which means no double clicking; an issue that plagues pretty much every mouse.

mx518 is bad?
g402 not counted

oh op you silly fool

>double clicking; an issue that plagues pretty much every mouse.
My 6 years old zowie fk1 doesn't have this problem. But yeah when I was in middle school in 2008 everyone wanted shiny razer with leds too bad they had double clicks after a year of use

THE FUCK
WHERE MY SENSEI AT YOU ASSHOLE

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>Anything above F tier
>wireless

my nigga

It's quite popular among CS players
prosettings.net/cs-go-pro-settings-gear-list/

That's hilarious. My DA is 3 years old without doubt over at least 2 million clicks and still good. You've just got tiny ass hands lol.

>parroting information that was true years ago but isn't so today
>intelligent

>Wireless in SS Tier
>MX518 in F Tier
nice bait

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The best wireless mouse I've ever had is a cheapo $5 one I bought because it looked nice. Most gaming mice are too big and want me to rest my whole palm on them for some reason.

>g402 not counted
because the g502 is already there you imbecile

>A tier
>"underrated"
smoothbrains who make these charts never cease to amaze

>/threading his own post
absolute retard

>Most gaming mice are too big
Are you literally retarded? Did you not even do the slightest bit of research? Gaming mice come in all kinds of sizes, and have objectively far better sensors for gaming than your $5 piece of shit.

bros i keep getting hair caught in my mouse's optics and it's really fucking annoying

is there an easier way of getting it out than using a toothpick?

>G102
>A tier
As much as a comfy mouse it is, being prone to double-click is unacceptable

How can a wireless mouse be top tier?

Are you fucking retarded?

I also have an original MX518. Do you have problems with the scroll wheel? It's a bit loose for me and one of the "notches" isn't working
Just wondering if this is a common problem after the fucking 10 years or whatever that I've had this mouse
I should probably buy one of those re-issues as well

Every non-opto mechanical mouse is prone to it, especially if you have filthy hands.

You are retarded.

What's wrong with the Madcatz RAT?

I'm still using my deathadder. Great mouse, the only issue I ever had with it was whittling down the inside of the scroll wheel from excessive use. Nothing a small strip of tape couldn't fix.

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>anything wireless being in C tier or above
Yeah, no thanks. Fuck wireless.

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fpbp

I've used the same mouse for 14 years, and the scrollwheel doesn't even work anymore. I refuse to replace it though because I'm pretty sure my hand has like remolded into the shape of the mouse.

>S tier g403 with scroll wheel prone to 'mind of its own' breaking around 3 to 6 months of casual use / internet browsing
m8 if you're gonna bullshit at least some some weight to your throw

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>when you have to samefag so much, even on different devices, to rationalize your own stupidity

why would you ever need anything more than an office mouse

Asking this question tells me you're pretty bad at competitive multiplayer games.

>Doesn't even have the new Intellimouse and MX518

G502 doesn't have that many buttons

>pixelated logo
>its orange
why is this so comfy?

I just prefer a small mouse, it's not my hands, it's just the mouse takes up a lot of pad space. Your DA might be 3 years old, it was probably manufactured when Razer was actually producing quality items. Also I bet the mwheel is on its last legs or playing up a little by now, almost certain.

Retards buy shit mice
Wow

So what should I pick if I want a mouse without a gorillion buttons to play and browse with that will not break down inside of 6 months?

>oh fuck guys let me just replace my mouse batteries in the middle of this match
wirelessfags are need to fucking die.

Literally me. I also think that angle-snapping unironically helps keeping crosshair on a head level.

My scroll had problems years ago and died at some point, I can't click/scroll it. But I usually browse sites with page up and down.

>I can't click/scroll it
get a new mouse you nigger

>playing competitive online multiplayer games
So no reason to have anything other than an office mouse.

Top tier list OP, saved

Anyone still buying razer in 2019 is a fucking retard
Anyone that thinks modern wireless gaming mice are bad in 2019 is a fucking retard
Anyone that thinks the MX518 or G502 aren't outdated as fuck shapes is a fucking retard
Anyone that uses an MMO mouse is a fucking retard

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>Wireless at top tier
>G502 in F but G 403 in near perfect
>fucking china shit zowie up there too
this image has to be a meme, it's fucking illogical

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>outdated shapes
yeah the human hand evolved in an entirely different direction in the last 5 years

>502
>bad

other than appearance what is wrong with it?

Why is Model O not in S tier? Everyone seems to love it. Low weight, great shape, top tier sensor, good quality, nice cord that makes it feel wireless, amazing price, etc.

Where's the downsides that puts it into A+ instead of S?

The MX518 is only good for palm gripping unless you have 6'8 Gigalanklet Hands

Palm gripping is objectively worse than fingertip or claw grip in fps.

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>$200 (TWO HUNDRED) for a mouse

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Too heavy, only good for palm grip, same as the MX518

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>muh grips

kill yourself

>only good for palm grip
>too heavy

you can take out the weights retard. also I'm using it with a claw grip right now and it's fucking fine

grip meme needs to die

>F TIERING THE CRAYOLA MASTER RACE!

Shit tier list OP.

Have you used more than one mouse before?
G502 is an okay casual mouse but shit for FPS games compared to literally every other mouse.

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Gearfags are everywhere, aren't they? The mouse you use makes maybe a 2% difference compared to just skill.

This retard just parroting a eceleb opinion. Third thread already of this bullshit.

You simply have more acurate input when you can use your fingers to shift around for fine movement instead of just your wrist, that is a fact

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Not for trash players like you, no.

There is input lag

Then why do I slay fags with it when I play FPS games? It's almost as if it doesn't fucking matter and what actually matters is you getting gud.

Its not about being too heavy you cant move it retard

>less accurate when clicking
what is this nonsense? What makes it less accurate?

I owned the G502 for years and did the same. That doesn't stop it from being a shit mouse. Humans can adapt to anything but why force yourself to adapt to a shit tier mouse?

I'm not the guy you are arguing with, but you have CLEARLY not looked into this at all. There's tons of pros across several FPS games that are using the G Pro Wireless as their daily mouse.

Do you think that so many people that actually compete for real money in video games would use a mouse that has any kind of input delay?

What's shit about it? Can you actually explain it, other than whining about weight nonsense?

Eceleb said it's too heavy.

Im sort of baffled by the complaints of the g502 for fps games. Do you guys not play low sens or something? Ive never once had an issue with it

Post them. Show them using them in tournaments.

Friendly reminder that unless youre in the top 3% of the players, better mouse will do shit for you. Ergonomics is what you should be concerned about, performance is secondary. Also, where Roccat Kone XTD at?

If the minute difference in control that claw grip provides is actually making a substantial difference, then youre playing at way too high of a sensitivity for an fps and youre a noob anyway

Logitech m100, 5 years old still working fine

youtube.com/watch?v=A2HFvGx8MZY

sorry bud

It's a falseflag
Nobody is actually dumb enough to /thread their own post

>mention everything but the weight
Why? It's a fact that compared to other mice, the G502 weighs the most. It has a mediocre shape for FPS games, again own more than one mouse. G502 has a meme braided cable when most mice now only use flexible rubber cables, if you have cable drag autism like me that's definitely a downside. Functionally it's an alright mouse with no inherent flaws, but there are several mice out there that are simply better so I see no reason to own a G502. Have you tried any other mouse besides the 502?

>Actually thinking wireless mice don't have increased latency

Lmao, this fucking thread.

>you can take out the weights retard
Hey idiot, even if you take out every weight, it's 125g. Most high level players won't use anything heavier than 90g.

Just because a low-skill garbage player like yourself is happy to use a heavy mouse doesn't mean everyone should use it.

>razr naga
my hands are small and I play mmos

Gamer hardware is the most cringy fucking thing around.

Well, that's one way of admitting you're retarded.
You retards have been comprehensively been proven wrong, so it's not worth dwelling on this.

You spent pro media equipment wrong

>Then why do I slay fags with it when I play FPS games?
You don't.

You're a scrub and you know it. You're just trying to rationalize your investment here.

What is this supposed to prove exactly?

>most high level players

so autistic people. who gives a single shit?

>It has a mediocre shape for FPS games

Elaborate. Explain why its bad.

>G502 weighs the most

Elaborate. Explain why thats bad

>cable drag

Literally doesnt exist. How have you guys not learned to tie your cables for slack yet. Its the simplest thing in the world.

Genius NetScroll 110X
It's one of those mice that fall into "I need a cheap replacement for my old borken mouse" category
I've lost count on how old this thing is
It's covered in shit
And It still works as intended

Gaming mice are a meme. You don't need an expensive mouse to kick ass. All you need is to git gud.

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>so autistic people. who gives a single shit?
Well naturally, a scrub like yourself wouldn't.

huur input lag pros will never use it

Just go to prosettings.net and click on PRO LISTS in the top, then select a game and do CTRL+F for G PRO. You will be able to find tons of professional players from a lot of reputable pro teams and organizations using the mouse in every single game there. CSGO, Fortnite, OW, PUBG, Apex, R6, etc.

Yeah great so they use it despite input lag but somehow shapes are not personal taste or whatever is comfy for your hands but ABSOLUTE FACT

This entire thread is full of fucking retards

See

>Elaborate. Explain why its bad.
Not ambidextrous, grip styles limited.

>Elaborate. Explain why thats bad
If you can't see the obvious agility benefits to a lighter mouse, you're quite clearly a retarded scrub. It's particularly important in aerodynamic games like Quake.

You're a low level player. Meanwhile high level players universally use mice under 90g. Not rocket science.

Hey fuckhead, how about you prove that the G Pro Wireless has input delay instead since you apparently know better than all of these pro players who are fucking paid to play video games professionally.

Go on, let's see any shred of evidence that you can prove.

And? How does that stop the input lag? Not to mention wireless exposes your transmission to interference via hacking

Is there any mouse on the market like G102 but built to last?

>Hey fuckhead, how about you prove that the G Pro Wireless has input delay
>Wireless
>Vs Wired

I mean, you can continue being retarded because it's actually kinda funny

Anything I explain will just be brushed off into the realm of subjectivity. Most importantly it's all relative to other mice I've used and owned so you wouldn't understand either way unless you own more than once mouse and can actually compare them. Again I ask you, have you owned more than one mouse before? Otherwise this conversation is meaningless since you will have no perspective.

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I had a scimitar, but I really fucking hated CUE2. Biggest pain in the arse that wouldn't work half the time and even forced a few re-installations on me. I don't think my hand ever felt quite right holding the mouse either.

I have a naga trinity now. Works fine and does what I need it to do.

Want to 1v1 quake live?

i had a g403 but it caused crippling pain in my thumb. switched to the g502 and it's been smooth sailing for a year. not sure why it's in d tier except that the scroll wheel is a little fucked

>Deathadder
>D tier
maximum contrarianism, opinion discarded.

I mean if zowie made the fk1+ wireless i would go for it.

>no g402
>g502 now is d tier
this is a tier list for first person shooters at best fucking nigger. kill yourself
>wires are better
>stop liking wireless mouses
pic related (you)

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Fuck you lad, I've had a Naga gifted to me in 2013 and it's still doing the job just fine

Yes. I have every mouse. Please continue the conversation and stop wasting my time. I have a shareholders meeting at 9.

thanks, who gives a shit

The entire point is that you zoomer faggots try to deny physics because it has shiny LEDs and your e-celebs use it.
Fucking degenerate niggers.

Go ahead and provide any kind of proof that it has input delay or lag. Should be easy for you to prove, right?

Meanwhile doing a CTRL+F on prosettings.net shows this: 53 CSGO, 98 Fortnite, 54 OW, 108 PUBG, 31 Apex, 44 R6. Are you saying that all of these people, lots of them being in top tier organizations/teams and who get paid to play those games are just too retarded to notice their input delay?

only downside ever against the deathadder is the quality is hit n' miss.

>g402 and g502 are the same thing now

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>Go ahead and provide any kind of proof that it has input delay or lag. Should be easy for you to prove, right?
Because it is wireless. It is literally as simple as that you fucking ape.

Own something other than the G502, then you can reply to me. We'll have a conversation then.

>Not ambidextrous
Okay, an issue for left handed people. That's a specific case which has zero effect on someone who is right handed.
>grip styles limited.
Doesn't matter if you don't play in a claw grip. This is a matter of specialization, not flaws in the mouse.
>If you can't see the obvious agility benefits to a lighter mouse, you're quite clearly a retarded scrub
Insignificant amount of grams at low sensitivity have no serious effect on performance. I'm not saying that lighter mice aren't better, because they are, but this is just like gearfags sperging out on knife steel or camera lenses. The gain from a more efficient product is miniscule compared to skill, and is something that only tournament tryhards care about because they actually have something at stake.
I bought it locally on discount for 20$. Hell of an investment to protect there, right?

who gives a shit I think you do by replying.

You know most top players are provided a mouse by sponsors right? You know these companies bid for their gear to be used on camera on stage at events. Pros play with whatever mouse their going to have to play with

Show any proof. There have been several tests by reputable hardware and mice reviewers that show no input delay. That's why the mouse is so praised. It's the first real wireless gaming mouse that doesn't have it.

I have every mouse. Im sorry its hard to elaborate on your claims. I shouldnt have asked.

Wow, so it's magic?? That's very cool, better go buy that mouse, the marketing department is hard at work!

no

While it is a valid thing that some of them have to use a certain brand, why would they choose to play with G Pro Wireless if it actually had input delay? They could pick one of the 5 other Logitech mice that are also good/top tier.

See players within teams using different mouses seems odd

this reminds me when it was proven that gaycube controllers had an higher input lag than the wireless controller and smashfags were on suicide watch.
you have the proofs, if you keep pretending they don't exist, it's up to you

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>got G403
Perfect.

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It literally cant. With wired mice the signal gets sent through the cord bouncing along the sides and gaining speed each time. With wireless the signal launches in all directions hopefully hitting the receiver. Ina a wireless mouse theres no bounce momentum and some signals sent in other directions can bounce off of nearby architecture and into the receiver resulting in double inputs. They fucking suck.

I hope for your sake that you are just trolling now. What mouse and mat/pad are you using?

Wired mice have input delay too you know. It's just miniscule enough to be imperceptible, and the same could be the case for the G.Pro Wireless (I personally don't know and don't give a shit)

Guess I got lucky, I had several Deathadders before giving them away to my siblings and they are all still working great; Razer mice are the only Razer product which never broke on me, their headsets and keyboards are fucking garbage though.

>They fucking suck.
Show me a single review, test or proof that backs up your claim of this.

>input lag
it's not 2003 anymore grandpa

I mean, sure, ask for proof about wireless being a worse transmission medium than a cable.
That's a smart thing to do for 15 year old.
Some old kone and some fucking piece of plastic, I'm not an autistic twitch watching faggot so I don't care.
>Wired mice have input delay too you know
No shit, fucker

ATTENTION ALL G502 AND MX518 USERS:

youtube.com/watch?v=jAJ-uHga9eM

Watch this and learn.

so pretty much any Logitech mouse is a good buy?

Mionix mice SSS tier

>No shit, fucker
Why are you sperging out when your retardation is pointed out? There's nothing unlikely about a wireless mouse with imperceptible input lag.

>literally says its a fantastic mouse

Ok

>wireless
>perfection
yup. thats where i stop reading. OP is a faggot

Wired will always be faster than wireless and more accurate.
You fucking zoomers should actually learn how computers work instead of playing fagnite.

Here's the best gaming mouse.

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>Why are you sperging out when your retardation is pointed out
>Stating the obvious is pointing out retardation
Kill yourself niggerlover.
>imperceptible input lag.
Which is not something we're arguing about. This entire thing is about some brainwashed unpaid shills going overdrive for logitechs marketing department.

why are you stuck in 1990?

Not him but, while it may well be fantastic for a wireless mouse, I'm going to need to see some hard evidence that proves it matches or beats modern competitive wired mice.

Watch the whole video, listen carefully, shill.

They play on school laptops with wifi with wireless gear no wonder kids are shit at games these days

So you're arguing about meaningless semantics then?

Gee almost as if physics are stuck in 1990 as well you dumdum

Explain to me how wireless works, and then read about how wired works. You'll come to the answer yourself, zoom zoom.

>Meaningless
Yeah sure if you want these fucking zoomerbaiting corporations continue running their retarded bullshit like this, it's meaningless.
But this entire thread shows how brainwashed these fucking faggotass kids are by now.

king of kings coming through

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prosettings.net/cs-go-pro-settings-gear-list/
>ctrl-f "wireless"
>63 matches
youtube.com/watch?v=orhb7Njj3h8

I mean, you've been comprehensively been proven wrong numerous times, but your pride is too hurt at this point, so you can't stop.

The cold, hard reality: sensor matters far more than wireless. A wireless mouse with a top sensor will suffer no performance disadvantage compared to any wired mouse. A wired mouse with a bad sensor will have significantly more input lag than a G.Pro Wireless.

Again though, you've dug yourself too deep. The very idea of stopping now hurts you.

They remade the MX518 mate, you don't need to use the worse replacement anymore

Are you 12?

youtube.com/watch?v=jAJ-uHga9eM

Just ordered the new MX518 last week to replace my old G500. How's it not on the list?

With comparable sensors you are simply wrong.
Latency will always be significantly longer on wireless. At this point you should finish your OSI model class junior year and come back to talk.

You are aware that 'these people use a wireless mouse so it's good' makes you seem like a gigantic fucking tool. right?

Fuck off, shill.

I don't give a fuck waht this faggot says
I can't even be assed to check whether you agree or disagree based on that shitty video
Go fuck yourself

It's quite amazing how much corporate dick one can suck for posts and posts on end. Zoomers need to die.

>wireless bad
>wired good

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lol jesus H christ.

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Hey fren, been playing FPS since 1996 here.
G Pro legit is better than wired mouse, even with the miniscule delay, the added precision you get from not having to drag the wire around is actually more beneficial than the >1 ms input lag, especially on a fast response system and high refresh monitor.

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>Latency will always be significantly longer on wireless
How come no tests show this then? Kinda strange.

S+

>Logitech G402
>Poor sensor
What?

As I said, here's the best gaming mouse.

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>A wireless mouse with a top sensor will suffer no performance disadvantage compared to any wired mouse. A wired mouse with a bad sensor will have significantly more input lag than a G.Pro Wireless.
But what if... what if my mouse has the same sensor as G.Pro, but it's wired?

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all it takes is for one partial signal and the receiver goes "please resend" or for a little household interference to make it worse than a wired mouse.
even negating the natural latency difference, this will make it even worse.

this is a paid sponsored video at all nope never.

and the mx518 fucking zoomers

look at this dood

>Hey fren, been playing FPS since 1996 here.
>Apex legends

Lmao.

Do you think you can tell the difference between a wired mouse with 0ms and a wireless mouse with 1ms? Are you Superman?

>not having to drag the wire
So you are saying you are so retarded that you can't use a chip clip, so you use an objectively worse mouse?

It seems wired g pro has a different shape and could be named differently at all.

but muh eceleb

They do show this, test it yourself and post the results.
So you finally admit wired is better?

>All those numpad mice are too heavy
>are too heavy

All you light mouse fags are cancer. You're ruining the mouse industry.

>Latency will always be significantly longer on wireless
And you're completely unable to prove this. After all, every single organic benchmark contradicts that idea. Well done idiot.

It actually makes idiots like yourself look dumb. You're a low level player, and you're trying to say wireless = bad while high level players are winning tournaments with them.

>He is still using the "but muh eceleb" argument

What the fuck is wrong with you

>So you finally admit wired is better?
"Better" in a way that LITERALLY no human can feel or notice when it comes to latency? Sure. However, like the other anons have said, the no-cable thing feels much nicer than wired ones. Once you have tried a proper wireless mouse you will never want to go back because then you can actually start feeling the cable drag on all other mice.

I fingertip the g400 no problem. No idea wtf you retards talking about.

I honestly regret buying G502 because I've always used symmetrical mouses.

I actually have a bungee, the G pro is a fantastically good mouse.

I just use a $10 mouse, seems to be fine.

>But what if... what if my mouse has the same sensor as G.Pro, but it's wired?
It means no difference at all.

In theory, wired should be faster, but in practice, no difference has been found. There are even many cases of wireless outperforming wired in 1000fps slowmo benchmarks.

This is why you don't listen to retards saying input lag is "significant".

You know I wouldn't be surprised if these wireless fags play on TVs

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Latency will always be significantly longer on wireless, physics has proven this time after time.
The wired connection has an advantage of 1.5ms on average from wireless to wired tests.
This is due to jitter, partial signals, and interference.

>eceleb
Do you consider professional competitive players ecelebs? Is that the extent of your insecurities?

Look, you're garbage at videogames, I get it. I don't see why you're so driven to make people listen to you, even though you're obviously not a good source of information.

My dude, you're probably the one playing on 60hz, with a $5 mouse, with a $20 headset and you keep claiming that there's no point in upgrading any of your shit because you are so stuck in your old ways from 20 years ago.

Nobody cares, keep playing the games you play you worthless MMO tranny.

Mouse choice actually matters for people who play real games.

Most wireless mice on the market will have around 8–16 ms of lag. This comes from the typical 125 Hz USB polling rate plus the encoding, transmission and decoding of the wireless signal.

>Still sucking muh gamer dick

Imagine being this pathetic.

>significantly longer
>1.5ms
Are you this fucking retarded? Do you honestly think that you can feel the difference of 1.5ms? Like really? The fastest humans on earth have maybe like 70-80ms reaction time at best and these are the top of the top of the top people.

Shave your head

>Latency will always be significantly longer on wireless
and you will always be a complete idiot, too scared of even looking at the benchmarks.

If latency was "significantly longer", not a single CSGO pro would ever use those mice, sponsorship or not. The reason they do use them, is because it isn't significant, it's entirely negligible. This fact pains you to no end.

Not him but, sounds like you're trying to cope really hard after you've had to face the fact that the same mouse would have less input if it was wired.

That's optimum perfect conditions.
Most wireless mice on the market will have around 8–16 ms of lag. This comes from the typical 125 Hz USB polling rate plus the encoding, transmission and decoding of the wireless signal.

Get a load of this manlett

Watch and learn:

youtube.com/watch?v=orhb7Njj3h8

csgo pro? why are you living in 1990. I don't care about outdated trash. Taking first with it still doesn't matter to me. I'm not arguing that wireless mouses aren't playable, im saying they are worse than wireless mice.

>posting this shill video twice

Why would I have to cope with anything? Are you aware that you can use the G Pro Wireless WITH the wire, if you want? It performs the same with and without the wire. The upside of no wire is no wire drag + lighter feel though.

>STILL arguing with 'authority'

What the fuck is wrong with you, I mean seriously.

Watch and learn.
gamersnexus.net/guides/2594-wireless-mouse-click-latency-analysis-vs-wired

Seems pretty accurate. Is there a headset version of this?

>I don't care about outdated trash
It's the one FPS game where the most money is played for and it has the most fierce competition. You are so delusional.

>This is the kind of faggot these kids listen to

I'm shitting myself in disbelief

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Want to 1v1 quake live?

>burying your head in the sand
BASED retard

Lean how wifi works and come back to this thread

WHAT?! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO USE WIRELESS MICE ON Yea Forums?! OUTRAGEOUS! HOW FUCKING DARE THEY!

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Doesnt really matter if you “feel the difference” or not. Its happening. And in a situation where 1.5 ms makes the difference it will kill you.

good argument faggot.

>top tier supposed to have no downsides
>but thanks to mental gymnastics of noodle arms and fat fucks high latency and battery charging is now an advantage
Am I getting fucking baited?

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2 months in my G502's scroll wheel is getting fucked

>Why would I have to cope with anything?

By your own admission, wired is better, even though you claim it's in a way that can't be felt, but really, you sound like you're trying really hard to shill this thing.

>It performs the same with and without the wire.

So the wire is just for charging and doesn't actually make it use a wired connection instead of wireless? What's the point then?

yeah these fucking retards were using that same faggot like i was going to be able to take some earring wearing faggot with a mouse full of holes in his hand seriously

>Alright now I finish them off with the wojaks

Pathetic

I'm not interested in any argument though. It's your word against 1000fps benchmarks and all the top pros who run wireless.

Between that and listening to you, a trash player, it's not a difficult decision.

>latency difference negligible
>lighter feel
>no wire drag

welcome to 2019. we PC culture.

I feel like i am.
Nobody will just read the fucking IEEE 802.11 article and understand that wireless will never ever be faster than wired, EVER. No matter how much ninja flosses or whatever that niggerfaggot does.

Want to 1v1 in quake live?

>high latency
Idiot.

I'm not a player at all really. I'm a senior network engineer that sets up wireless and wired networks. What do you think works faster and more reliable? What technology do you think mice use for wireless?

>lighter feel
You fucking twink-ass tranny faggot can't lift a mouse now?
>wire drag
Pic related, literally you

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>So the wire is just for charging and doesn't actually make it use a wired connection instead of wireless?
If you insert the wire it will act as a normal wired mouse. You can remove the wireless dongle entirely and it will work through the wire.

>What's the point then?
You just chose to ignore the part where I explained that. It feels lighter and you have no wire drag(yes, you get wire drag even with bungees). I was exactly like you before, but GWP has shown that wireless mice are the way forward from here.

I said this before, the drag you get from the cable (just by it being there and even connected to a bungee) is greater than the input lag you get, it's very freeing.

youtube.com/watch?v=wQxw-pX4dak
Logitech sponsored video, but this seems accurate as far as my experience goes.

Also you can always plug in the G Pro and have it be wired, it's still fantastic.

>all the pro uses it so it must be good
who cares? they're literally a god damn billboard. look at this and tell me they're not trying to sell you "gaming" products. fucking faggot

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Holy fuck. You are the type of person who is arguing against something you haven't ever tried or used because of something you learned 20 years ago. You're probably some fucking 40 year old bum who uses IBM keyboards, no mousepad and cheap headsets.

>Logitech sponsored video, but this seems accurate
Hahaha this fucking thread dude

he's 90 lbs so a regular mouse feels heavy to him

>battery weight

So which one is the best mouse for fingertip grip?

>DUDE physics CHANGED in the last few years, we have GAMER PHYSICS now get with the times

??????????????????????

Remember how people said mechanical keyboards were placebo, would never catch on and were actually worse/slower than membrane? Look where we are now, grandpa.

It's pretty light actually.
80 grams to be specific.

>another shill video
fucking hell

>china shit
You realize nearly all mice are made in china? Pretty much everything electronic is made in china.

>Remember how people said mechanical keyboards were placebo
No, what alternate universe were you living in?

>No finalmouse
>no mionix
>no sidewinder
imagine being this clueless

Okay, so you are just being completely disingenuous then. Tell me one thing, what's your favorite FPS game and when was the last time you played any FPS game?

>worse/slower than membrane?
never heard of this. the only people bitch about mechanical keyboards was CLACKCLACKCLACKCLACKCLACKCLACKCLACK

>Okay, so you are just being completely disingenuous then
Ever since I can remember people preferred mechanical keyboards for all kinds of shit. NO idea what your retarded reddit gamer sucked out of each others assholes for a hot minute there.

>fps
fucking casual, FPS doesn't demand low-latency, most of your actions in an FPS game should be predetermined and not even quake has movement that can shift rapidly enough to make it matter. RTS games are where instant response times are necessary because of instant movement unit throwing off a click.

>waaah the mouse is too heavy!!!
>waaah the wire's too hard!!!

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Tough choice.

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>If you insert the wire it will act as a normal wired mouse. You can remove the wireless dongle entirely and it will work through the wire.

Interesting, it's a shame it's still ridiculously overpriced. But more importantly, you said it performs the same wired or wireless, which is also untrue according to your own admission that it would be faster as wired.

>You just chose to ignore the part where I explained that.

I didn't ignore it, I just don't care for the miniscule amount of weight difference compared to wired or "wire drag".

>but GWP has shown that

Literally who? Go read this and get back to me.

has anyone tried this?

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Why do you think it took 20-30 years for mechanical keyboards to catch on?

You didn't answer my question. What's your favorite FPS game and when was the last time you played an FPS game?

>reverse search
>no results
>being so upset you make a wojak image that cites a CSGO fag
lol

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>Why do you think it took 20-30 years for mechanical keyboards to catch on?
What the fuck. You are aware they are old technology, right? Much like... wires? You are aware people that are not retarded gamer faggots were using them all the time, right?

should be a third choice where people only care about the shape/quality/looks/ambidextrous or ergonomical/cost

>lmao implying we could ever make a transistor smaller than a micrometer
>LMAOOOOOO 10 nanometer transistor? bro nice gamer physics bro

I've had this bitch for ELEVEN years now, and it works like a god. Obvious bait thread.

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yours looks dented my dude

It's weird being on Yea Forums long enough to see wireless fags actually rising up and ridiculing tried and true wired mousers. The fuck is this timeline I'm in???

>Actually implying we're at a point where a wireless transmission medium is faster than a wired one

This thread is very special

They will never understand that wifi is just another layer of encapsulation ontop of a regular signal. With exponential backoff, partial signals. Wireless will never ever be faster.

you should have seen how hard they were damage controlling in the mouse thread last night

>MX518 in Ftier
Fucker I dominated Unreal and Quake with that mouse, still the best mouse I've ever owned, I'd have kept using it if I didn't literally use it till it burnt out and they discontinued it at that time. Steel series rival is far too high in that list, it's what I replaced it with and it feels so much worse.

Look @ this bad boy
Remake when, Phil?

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The worst one. Corporate dicksucking is the norm now.

Reminder that no matter how much money you spend on gamer gear, you will always be shit at games. Especially the children who only plays mobas and CSGO, if you aren't already global elite prestige 12 with your teenaged peak reaction time, you will always, ALWAYS be terrible at games, and no 1ms latency M&KB can change that.

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You know whats sad that you have children in this thread can't understand that they're being marketed. they think just because a pro uses a product it automatically defeats all arguments. like what the fuck.

Yes, I am aware. I just told you that they were manufactured for 20-30 years without catching on. The future was looking so bleak that even Cherry themselves wanted to fold their company and sold it off in 2008. That's when another company acquired them and started bringing the mechanical switches into the mainstream and when they became widely accepted as better than all other keyboards.

Right now wireless mice are in the same state as Cherry was in 2008. The GPW is just now becoming mainstream and people are starting to realize that wireless is the way forward.

wow so you admit the argument "you'd need new physical laws for wireless to be the same speed as a USB wired mouse" is absolutely fucking retarded and you're a faggot for saying it. now that you admit that it is very possible within our understanding of the physical universe, can you tell me how you know logitech has not done it, other than being an it intern.

yeah just like wifi took over the corporate world.
Oh wait nobody but guests use it because it doesn't fucking work.

I use Logitech M90 to play games, yes it just works.

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Show us your setups. You guys probably still use 60hz too, right?

>Giving a shit about what an """"e-sports""" sponsor's mouthpiece thinks
Retard

It's not my fault you are poorfags who can't enjoy superior lightspeed wireless masterrace mice.

wired is lightspeed without
The hidden substation problem.
High error rate.
So stop being a nigger.

my main monitor is a predator xb1

Sounds like you're upset that Wojak represents you a little too accurately.

>hehe you probably haven't bought into the latest gamer accessory trend
And you even state it like it's a good thing.
what the fuck is happening here, how can this entire thread be filled with consumer whores

>ips

Go ahead and show it along with the rest of your setup then.

no I'm not because it is still true and just because you and your daddy wish for it very very much doesn't make it happen

If wireless latency made a "significant" difference, top professionals would never use them. They'd just use a wired mouse from the same sponsor.

I know it pains you to admit, but there's no difference whatsoever in latency. Times have changed, scrub.

The lack of the cable at the tip of the mouse is very liberating, the latency difference is not noticeable.
Your loss I'm just trying to be honest and kind here.

just take the L, my dude. Your b.
nobody:
absolutely nobody:
you: i'm a pro gamer because i buy wireless mice
oh no no no no
what did he mean by this?

the timeline where you are old and near death, and the latency gap is closed to the reaction time of healthy adults, let alone your arthritis contorted hams

Human eye can't see past 60hz, you dipshit. But hey, don't let me stop you from buying whatever bullshit marketing is trying to feed you.

Wait, are you ACTUALLY still using a 60hz monitor because you don't want to "buy into a trend"? Holy fuck, you are a sad case.

against all data, against all info demonstrating with video footage that a lightspeed wireless mouse is on par with a wired mouse, you want to believe that wired is better because you're too poor to buy one, and believe your rudimentary understanding of physics is enough to make matter of fact statements on wireless data transmission latency.

im in the process of moving
>drive 20 miles to the storage building to prove something to some random faggot on the internet!
no thats retarded

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Look at this dude. this is he kind of person that lists his LED lighted toenail clipper in the about me section on steam because it has a zowie logo.
fuck man

all the wiredfags here are finalmouse shills right?

The IEEE standard 802.11 article is what is disagreeing with you. Do you think I came up with these standards myself? People are just explaining the technology to you. If you choose to ignore these published articles that's your fault.

MX518ERS RISE UP

I am the exact opposite of what you are saying. My Steam profile is completely empty. I am also the person who has turned of all RGB on his keyboard, mouse, case and motherboard because it serves no fucking purpose.

wireless posters might be complete fucking retards, but damn am i glad we moved away from ball mice
the computer i used from the 90s to about 2010 had one and i constantly had to fight to get the ball back in place because it would get stuck inside the mouse

i sometimes buy used razer stuff for cheap. The Copperhead was really fucking comfortable

>Alright time to spend some more money on these glowie plastic bits so I can keep up with my gamer friends online

This thread man, this thread. people used to laugh at these razer shills, now it's the default and they're proud of being taken advantage of.
Fuck this gay earth, holocaust now

>lightspeed
holy shit, wireless mice have some amazing technology in them huh. To be able to send packets of data at literal lightspeed, when will the world governments take notice and adapt this technology?

my legendary edition is sitting in the box for when i get a good place for my new setup
im excited to use it

youtube.com/watch?v=jAJ-uHga9eM

I prefer my mouse instead.

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>people actually think these mice communicate through WiFi

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What mousepad do you use lads?

its what they call the wireless pipeline you fucking mongoloid

alright this post seals the deal, I can't anymore

I really hope you are trolling. The jump from 60hz to 120hz has been proven time and time again. Funnily enough the people who are so vehemently against wireless mice are the same as people as the "humans can't see past 60hz" crowd. Wireless mice are the future and you're going to see every single manufacturer start making them within the next few years.

>"uh i dont really have experience with this mouse but i like the one i use a lot more and it really comes down to what you like more"
saved you like 5 minutes

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

I bought a MX518 Legendary edition, it was great.
I replaced it with a G Pro soon after though, it's even better.

You best be joking nigger.

>There's just no way a wireless mouse can have the same performance as wired. There's just no way. It like, defies the laws of physics. There's just no way. I don't care what any benchmarks say.

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Don't you think it's unsafe to have miniature black holes in every gamer mouse? Sure, us gamers want that extra edge to prove our epic skills, but having a quantum entangled transmitter is pretty dangerous. What if the CIA gets their hands on a gamer mouse and turns it into a weapon?

this post man. this fucking post.

Funnily enough gullible idiots who chase one marketing trend also chase the other ones.

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I can't tell who's a zoomer and who's merely pretending anymore

Proven to do what? make you a better gamer? literally who gives a fuck kid

you're actually just a stupid nigger aren't you? post what music you're listening to right now. just post it. if you dont post what music you're listening to, you're a confirmed dumb nigger.

>wireless
no thanks, although i do appreciate your input on the mx518 legendary edition

says the incel wojak poster. I'd say have sex but you probably haven't found a pure aryan maiden yet huh

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Deathadder is god tier, low cost and I've had mine for 3 years so far no issues and I used one for 5 years before that and replaced it because the it was getting too old.

This thread started off alright, now it's just non stop shit flinging.

I'm listening to youtube.com/watch?v=6AOnthAYLEo because it's from the episode the characters shopped for new gamer gear, and it reminds me of my time watching esports and being subliminally pressured into buying red bull and wireless razer mice

Deathadder was/is a great mouse, but Razer QA is so fucking trash. I had 4 of them and now I refuse to buy any Razer products ever again. Never had any other peripherals from any other brands break on me like that.

>the two worst keypad mice in F tier
well okay fine I guess as along as-
>g600 nowhere to be found
Full fucking retard.

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what music were you actually listening to you stupid nigger. why are you so afraid of posting what you were listening to

I adore it, no drag from the cable at all makes aiming more consistent, older wireless technology was shit tier for sure but this is actually surprisingly good.
Never thought I'd say that.

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that is what I was listening to faggot, it was destiny for that song to be playing while I was posting in a gamer gear thread and now I know I must preorder the newest up and coming VR gear so I can simulate what it's like to have wireless hands

wireless guys can say what they want but i appreciate the drag of the cable. the muscle memory i have over the years has built up around it so without it my control is thrown off
i've tried wireless gaming mice at various friends houses but i really just dont like the feel of them, even with the cables plugged into them

how does the G602 rank

If it was up to me, I’d have everyone using wireless mouse for gaming killed off. Slit your wrists, fucking zoomers.

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yes

Unfortunately, you'd still be bad at videogames.

Were they a G Pro?
youtube.com/watch?v=NeWRU92qMUQ

>no G600
>wireless
Kill yourself

none of them were g pros but i still stand by the points i stated in my previous post

>WIRELESS BAD
>WIRED GOOD

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Kill yourself MMO tranny.
This thread is for people who actually play games.

Trust me though it's almost revolutionary.
But if you can't afford it I understand it's expensive.

>who actually play games
I can use my many buttons to tell you to kill yourself. You're not playing fuck all right now either

>130-140 dollars at its cheapest
what the fuck? thats way overpriced for a good mouse

All of those buttons and you're still shit at video games.

holy crap he looks like an albino nigger

user, 2013 was 6 years ago...

In this day and age the only thing that matters is a comfortable shape, and you chose it by getting your ass to the store and trying it out. Otherwise you're retard

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Can't be bad when I can game with one hand and call you a faggot with the other. Eat shit

Why is Yea Forums so butthurt over the fact that wireless mice are good now?

There is a difference in latency. It just doesn't matter because of several reasons such as no human being capable enough for it to matter.
It's like a competition in determining what something looks like between 1080 and 4k. Both give a clear readable image unless it's some bullshit 400 miles away in arma that only registers as a single pixel on the 1080 display, and even then the 4k wouldn't be much better.

Does /g/ have good taste?

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I wonder what /g/ thinks of this thread. lol

Not only is that list 20 years old, It's shit as well.

this

FOR ME IT'S THE NIXEUS REVEL!!!!!!!

>it's way too big
you fucking what mate you're a manlet if a deathadder is too big.
the only problem with durability is the cord. it crinks like a motherfucker

Because 90% of Yea Forums consists of children, third world people and retards. If the GPW was $30-40, you'd see everyone using it and praising it.

All you need to do is go look at the threads where people post their systems and you'll see how many people are unironically using 5-10 year old hardware.

Yo where da Steelseries at??

They wouldn't think anything of it unless you brought AMD into the discussion

I may be older, but that affords me the ability to have experience and know not to be fed bullshit by corporate entities and blindly believe it.
I mean holy shit, this is nuts. I could destroy Yea Forums if I could screencap this and post it back in time.

>unironically using 5-10 year old hardware
user, check what year it is. Hardware 5 years ago still holds up today unless you're playing the latest unoptimized AAA bloatware on max settings. Even hardware 10 years old can run shit on low/medium.
Hardware requirements have stopped rising so steeply. We're not in the crysis era where you need to dump a grand and a half for a playable PC

Imagine playing with a 12 keyless mouse in current year lmfao

/g/ here, do you people actually still believe wires are better or are you trolling?
Wireless SURPASSED wires in latency reduction years ago

Sure you would, kid. Sadly you've always been bad at actually playing games.

/g/ here, this guy is an impostor and a shill.

Do you still use a 60hz monitor too?

The materials are top quality, super thin mouse walls to shave off weight, super good batteries, R&D costs, etc one would assume.
I understand why it costs more than the average normal wired mouse.

they have a mouse thread annnd it's same shit you see here.

Retard. Finish school physics course first.

Do you think 144hz is necessary? Unless you're playing quake, which is dead, it really doesn't matter. It's purely a luxury, an incredibly nice one to have, but you don't need a 144hz monitor to run any game

It seems obvious to me that an ambidextrous mouse would be inferior to a mouse specifically fitted to your hand, is that not the case?

Those are Yea Forumsermin crossboarders. They typically go to other boards for validation, you can see plenty of them on Yea Forums in shounen threads as well.

Do you think a graphics card is necessary?
The onboard GPU is more than good enough a graphics card is nice to have but it's just a luxury.

Input delay exists on all physical hardware, wired or wireless. However it is easy enough to reason that EM waves (photons) travelling through the air arrive at their destination faster than electrons through copper that usually have to cover a suboptimal path length too.

>Do you think 144hz is necessary?
If you play any FPS game ever, yes. 60hz vs 144hz is like night and day. Anyone who has ever tried 144hz can never go back to 60hz, that in itself should tell you something.

>not using superior 240hz to shit on poorfags and scrubs in any FPS

fpb-
>/threading yourself

It's not. Onboard gpus can't hold a stable 30 with graphics turned down. If you can hold a stable 60 you're fine in any game.
It only matters in FPS games that are dead, like quake and tribes. If it really mattered, people with 144hz would be noticable. The truth is they aren't, a shitter who gets a 144hz monitor will still be shit and a good player who gets 144hz was good to begin with.

>official mouse chart
>chosen by one fucking user
Dropped

>it's not
it is*. Meant onboard gpus were not good.

>implying i'm the same user
fuck off reddit

wahh de mouse too heavy for my limp widdle wrists

>pretending to be me
being anonymous must be new to you for you to be that petty, redditbro

>one fucking shill*

>If you can hold a stable 60 you're fine in any game.
You clearly have no clue about anything. I'm sorry that you are suffering from advanced brain rot, my dude. Must be hell being 45 years old and having slow reaction speeds and being unable to see above 60 FPS/hz.

Got myself a Zowie S2 glossy blue and am really happy. Shape>weight

>this entire thread
summer sure is suffering

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If a mouse doesn't have at least 3 extra buttons, it's not worth using
G502 is bar none the best mouse on the market, clearly as the market proves it
>it's bad in fps, m-muh esports
It is one of the most popular mice in both competitive and casual gaming, we have an objective measure of how good it is
The only people who hate it are limp wristed faggots who complain about it's weight

>will suffer no performance disadvantage compared to any wired mouse.
Except you know fucking wireless interference. Which they literally say in your fucking video. No matter what wireless will have this disadvantage.

suicide furfag

user, the difference between 60hz and 144hz is very noticable and very sexy. But humans are not capable enough for that to matter in most games, only fast paced arena shooters can they potentially show a difference, something nobody plays anymore. Unless you participate in quake tournaments, 144hz is just a really nice luxury, but it will in no way boost your skill noticeably in something like total war or CSGO. There is no CSGO professional who saw an increase in their winrate upon moving to 144hz, although I'm certain their enjoyment went up because of how much smoother it is.

How many pros use the G502?

>he's too much of a low-test brainlet to handle instant weapon swaps with thumb keys, increasing mobility and response time in close-range fights
>wastes precious time using shitty scrollwheels and reaching for numbers instead of perfectly positioning himself with his move-keys
have fun being stuck playing Counterstrike and CoD till time ends you 0 motor skill dicklet, you're what killed Tribes

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He brings that up because his trying to make his benchmark as authentic as possible you stupid idiot. That's the whole point of having a credible benchmark.

Several top players use the G.Pro Wireless, that automatically discombobulates your retarded argument. Top wireless mice have no performance disadvantage.

>wireless mouse at top
>mx518 no where on the list
What a horrible chart.

Show me a single top professional Counterstrike player who uses a numpad mouse, retard.

>have fun being stuck playing Counterstrike and CoD till time ends you 0 motor skill dicklet

For me, it's SteelSeries 110.

>mx518 no where on the list
It's at the bottom of the list you braindead idiot.

Also Wireless has been comprehensively proven to have no noticeable input lag compared to wired. Like many other tards in this thread, you're just running into a dead end argument.

I'm using a Rival 700 currently. I think they might've discontinued them for the 600?

Anyways I love it, its pretty heavy too and just doesn't just float around freely.

I think it also has the PMW3360 sensor right?

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>literally fucking brainless
show me where you learned to read, retard

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Your eyes can't see more than 27 fps anyway, 30 is over-rated.
That's why TV's are in 27 fps.

How can people play games with a mouse only having 6 buttons? I need at least 8, preferably 9 or 10.

The question still stands, idiot. In fact, show me even a single example of any top professional of any competitive game using a numpad mouse.

You are a low-skill player. It's your word against people who are far better than you.

boomer coming thru
SSS++ tier
-5 dollar mouse

>There is no CSGO professional who saw an increase in their winrate upon moving to 144hz
That is wrong. Why do you think 144hz caught on so fast amongst the pros? They were the first ones to test them out and felt like they NEEDED them because of how different it was. I don't know how you can try to argue against literally being able to see more than double the frames AND seeing them more then twice as fast.

Not only that, but you can literally feel the difference in terms of aiming too. If you take any CS:GO pro that regularly plays on a 144hz or 240hz and put them on a 60hz, they will definitely perform worse. I don't know why you think they would perform the same, it goes against any and all logic.

>How can people play games with a mouse only having 6 buttons?
By not being retards, or MMO trannies.

Why don't you ask that exact question to all the high level players who choose not to use numpad mice?

>wireless signals travelling at light speed, or 3e8 m/s
vs
>bloated electrons bouncing off each other at 2.8e8 m/s
okay

My mouse isn't even listed, guess I better buy this £100 wireless mouse that Yea Forums has ranked as the best.

>MX518 bottom tier
I bet you'd have put the intellimouse that half of those are based on down there as well if your underaged ass had ever heard of it.

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Look at this retard

At least use the buzzwords correctly retard. That's not what was said.
>Why do you think 144hz caught on so fast amongst the pros?
Several reasons. The most obvious is to sell merch. Why would companies not take the opportunity to sell expensive monitors? Do you think they do it for the betterment of gamers or to push technology forward? Reminder: pros were forced to wear glove skins, even if they didn't want to.
The second most obvious is why wouldn't they? 144hz is much nicer to look at, after playing at 144hz it's almost painful to go back to 60fps. It makes sense for professional gamers to prioritize spending money on the latest hardware, they'd naturally see 144hz and never want to go back, even if the performance gains were minimal. It's the same reason rich people drive cars with very comfortable chairs and sound+climate control systems.
No pro has seen a noticeable increase in their winrate from switching. It's a luxury

To be fair, MX518 and MS3.0 were top tier mice for a decade back then, but at this point they are definitely outdated.

Ah so I have to become a pro to negate wireless interference. Thanks for the tip

Any thoughts on the wireless ironclaw from corsair? I hear it's comfy for big hands like mine. But I worry about the button design. Not sure how to press the middle one on top of the two side buttons.

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Maybe if you play mmo arpgs

Had to play on a 144hz to see if it was a meme but it was legit smooth as fuck have yet to try a 240hz fps> 4k any day

So are fucking radiator dildos because they're paid to use the fucking meme gear you moron.

which gayman mouse would be useful for someone with big hands

Can you explain what "wireless interference" is and what you think it does to a mouse?

Nice. Got mine like 5 years ago since the intellimouse was out of print, and it's been working flawlessly. White's nicer, though.

>Had to play on a 144hz to see if it was a meme but it was legit smooth as fuck
I was the same way about 144hz, and I was the same way about wireless mice too. I guarantee that everyone in this thread that bashes wireless mice haven't actually tried the G Pro Wireless.

I said above If Wowie made the FK1+ wireless I would give it ago

my mamba is randomly disconnecting if i don't move it for a few seconds, like if holding a corner in csgo and suddenly i can't even aim.
also the grip rubber is glued on with the strength of a post-it note

Wireless mice are fun and all until someone near you buys a microwave that has just the right frequencies that demolish your mouse's wifi
>tfw went through several wireless mice of different brands all thinking something was wrong with them/my computer before finding out a fucking microwave was the culprit

Zowie* fucking kek

do you game in the kitchen or need to have hot pockets every 2 minutes within arms reach.

>cont.

the razer abyssus i had a while back was the best mouse ever made, even if it was just that one single mouse, and not even the model

How the fuck are they outdated? Our hands didn't evolve in the past decade. Circles don't suddenly fit more degrees.

Mice have been arbitrarily precise for fucking ever, only ergonomics matter, and half of that fucking list is just intellimice with new names like the steelseries raw nippon banzai kensai sensei ichika no ecchi muchakucha desu

Pathetic samefag kill yourself

Wired is just objectively inferior to wireless now. Watch the LTT vid on the subject if you're so uninfformed about current events.

My room was about 6 meters from the microwave, and had several walls between. The fucker still managed to rape my mice. I don't remember what brand that piece of shit was, but it made it completely unplayable when it was doing its deed.

I have heard about this happening with WiFi signals because they bounce around the house and the microwave somehow intercepted the signal in between, but how does that happen with a mouse? Sounds scary.

>watch a sponsored video
user. you couldn't shill harder.

retard

>razer in D tier
Poorfag detected

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Everything thats wireless gives off a signal. Its not fucking magic you mongoloid. Consoles, routers, phones, controllers. The more signals there are bouncing atound the harder it'll be to read said signals. So unless you only have a pc itd be fine. You can literally see what happens with that shitty wireless mouse they used. Just because a signal is stronher dorsnt mean it no longer has interferencr, it just a stronger resistence too it

what a shit list lol

Watch a paid advert no thanks

Nah they're not. Modern wired mice have that new wire that makes it feel wireless anyway so there's no point in wireless

>How the fuck are they outdated?
The old MX518 had angle snapping/smoothing, prediction, tracking loss, etc. and was often prone to double clicking. We just loved it back in 2005 because we didn't know any better.

Are you talking about the Model O wire? Because people who compare Model O to GPW say that you can still feel the wire of the Model O when they are compared.

Works on my machine just fine

> Modern wired mice have that new wire that makes it feel wireless anyway
>This level of wirefag cope

huh, that's too bad
anyway my shitty intellimouse ripoff(end of production, rip) works flawlessly, it's not a complicated decision. Just get something you like the feel of. You're fucking done. They've been as accurate as they need to since before most of these twats were born.

educate yourself nigger

Tfw my shitty 5$ Logitech mouse still works great after 8 years

No, but you have to be a good player to have input on this discussion. You're a bad player trying to say good players are wrong for using wireless.

You're just a bitter idiot who can't admit he's wrong.

Razer is in A+ tier you mental defect.

He's a retard who fell for the deathadder meme, don't mind him

Imperceptible input lag and lower weight > Perceptible cable drag
Anyone that argues that G Pro W is not the best mouse currently has just never tried it

Every MMO and MOBA pro player,
Every single pro Fortnite player on this list has a mouse with two side-buttons, a couple of them have numpads with 10+ buttons.
You are a lowtest faggot with shit taste and fat hands.

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>being such a wristlet a .04 ounce wire causes perceptible resistance

>He fell for the death adder meme, don't mind him

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>a furfag who fell for the deathadder scam AND a wojakposter
lol

It's a lot more perceptible than the input lag you niggers are arguing about.

true enough, but both still have no real impact, whereas needing to swap out batteries does.

>swapping batteries every five minutes and adding a volatile bluetooth connection beacuse you're too limp-wristed to move 3 grams of cable

>caring what pro counterautists do
show me a PROGAMER non-MMO pc game that even requires more than 2-3 weapon slots. When shit like Tribes comes out with more than 2 weapon slots these ELITE gamers can't handle not spamming a corridor for 4 hours and give up.
Keep your garbage nokia dickclicker mouse and keep playing the same boring-ass games over and over again

Death adder is a good mouse, user. I'm sorry you're an impoverished retard who can't afford one

Seething moterlet

>only defense is how much money he wasted
The first stage is denial, but please don't get scammed again.

>swapping batteries every five minutes
1 hour charge lasts 60 hours and it doesn't drain when you aren't moving it. Also, if it ever goes out in the middle of something you can just quick charge or put the wire in.

brainlet can't even spell motor
melts your brain when you play the same game for 30 years

Dude some Razer mouses I have used recently were fucking trash that got broke after max 3 months of daily usage. The old Razer was bonkers as they could work for literally 10+ years and the whole plastic casing of a mouse would broke quickier than the mechanical parts and insides. It used to be SSS tier for me, now its F for Fuck this company tier. I doubt they have any mouses that will work so well as many years ago.

Kill yourself

And a cord lasts decades. Bit less if you've cunty cats, but no 60 hours.
Why buy broken shit?

>MOBA
Idiot. Moba players almost always go ambidextrous with good shapes.

>two side-buttons
That's not a numpad you stupid idiot.

The entire pro-SMITE league has used multi-button mice for years

ms 3.0 probably

There's no point arguing with those ignorant poorfag retards.
It's like the niggers that still claim HDD is better than SSD.

No one here is a free thinker

Cord is a compromise, get it through your head

I love that meme. I don't know what the fuck their PR guy was thinking.