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It wasn't because Steam charges 30%. When Epic came with their 12%, GOG had to lower their share, as they don't have a decent market share to afford not doing it. Fuck off.

EGs encourages devs to build hype-trains to sell instead of good games.

how much you get paid for shilling cancer

here's the actual number

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I give 0 fucks about supporting devs unless they're one of the few indie devs I have personal attachment too like the Super Flash Bros, if they want me to pay, it has to be a better experience then stealing it.

Who is this faggot supposed to be?

Meanwhile at Valve
>one billion active accounts

Why bother when Tim buys games for me?

10 MONTHS LATER

STILL NO SHOPPING CART

WHAT THE FUCK, EVEN DIPSHIT GEOCITIES SITES HAVE SHOPPING CARTS

WHAT IS TIM DOING WITH ALL THAT FORTNITE CASH?

It's interesting how basically no one said a word about the 30% cut until Epic came in and started crying about it, while also mentioning their own 12% is unsustainable in the long term.

Not that the cut really has anything to do with it. if that's all it was about, Discord's store and itch.io would have put Steam out of business years ago.

EPIC has more than that

When the fuck is Satisfactory going to release a dedicated server build?

>why hasn't complained steam monopoly was hurting GOG?
It was?
Gog even had to buckle and put their own exclusive game Thronebreaker on steam because it sold so poorly on Gog, despite getting tons of praise by journalists and good metacritic score.

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>Before epic, why hasn't complained steam monopoly was hurting GOG?
GOG aimed for a seperate niche and got a long fine.

All Steam games I've downloaded launch Steam when I launch the .exe, am I doing something wrong?

all Valve games are stolen mods.

>500,000 of those sales were by epic themselves
Wow... truly epic.

>I only want your money a certain way shitlord
Alright then, I'll be acquiring these treasures by slightly alternative means.

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GOG store is losing money and barely scrapping by

How much do Discord and itch.io take?

What game did this guy make and how many copies sold?

I hate Epic because they are introducing platform exclusivity in the PC space, inching the PC that much closer to console war cancer.

Just look at threads like these. Even when there's no payment to access the exclusive titles, the mere fact that titles are exclusive to a certain platform creates the retarded "Us vs Them" mentality that is the basis for competition in the console space. Sweeney is proliferating console war cancer to PC, and for that he deserves all the shit he is getting and then some.

>It's interesting how basically no one said a word about the 30% cut until Epic came in and started crying about it
Dude, people complained (as in devs) for years about it. But because Valve had such a pseudo-monopoly on the market devs/publishers couldn't say shit because if your game wasn't on steam it wouldn't sell at all.

>Dude, people complained (as in devs) for years about it
Proof?

>Before epic, why hasn't complained steam monopoly was hurting GOG?
Because Steam isn't a monopoly, tardmonger.

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>while also mentioning their own 12% is unsustainable in the long term.

Why valvefags need to lie all the time epicbros? Why can't they just admit defeat?

Discord: 10%. blog.discordapp.com/why-not-90-10-3761ebef4eab
Itch.io: 0%-100%. itch.io/updates/introducing-open-revenue-sharing

Why isn't there an autist spamming this already
>Steam doesn't set prices
>Steam isn't an industry
>Steam has no control over supply
>There are substitutes
>There are literally no barriers to entry

I forget specifically, but Discord at least took ~10% IIRC, and itch.io either took the same or less. They took less than even Epic does and pretty much no one gave a shit.

the gaming market is volatile. No matter how good a game is, if it sells poorly then that developer will go bankrupt. Isn't this the shit Yea Forums is always complaining about?

>>Steam doesn't set prices
takes 30%

>507,374 copies sold
Meanwhile in reality
>no discussion about the game
>no talks what so ever
>no threads talking bout gameplay
>no streams
>no one wanking about copies sold except the dev
at least we know how many copies Epic covers for inde games they bought out

What does Steam's cut have to do with prices?

Bad games should be allowed to fail so game developers can figure out what it did wrong and improve on it to make a better product.

Actually, indies rejoiced when Steam was created because that meant they didn't need to pay the publisher fees.
30% is pretty much the standard cut, not just for games but for other stuff. If you published something on Kindle it's also 30%.

Who is this guy and why should I care that he's gloating about games being sold, presumably on EGS?

>chinese spyware that they are clearly guilty of and just doing damage control for now
>no friends/social function, the most fucking basic thing that everyone else has had for years, in 2019
>predatory sales tactics that bribe devs into giving exclusives and fucking over the people who pre-ordered on steam, while even though that's the devs' fault for accepting, it's harmful to the customers
>no fucking SHOPPING CART FEATURE on a digital sales platform. what is this, 2003?
>makers of fortnite
fuck epic shills, fuck china, 1989 Tienanmen Square Massacre, free Tibet

This kills the Chang

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what about good games that fail?

>A company requires payment for services rendered
Wow, those fucking evil plutocrats!

Quite a bit apparently since games tend to be cheaper on Steam than on Epic unless you live in the United States or Israel.

Name some.

>>There are literally no barriers to entry
What a retard.
>>Steam has no control over supply
They do control supply of every exclusive game to steam, which is the vast majority of pc games.

stalker

>What a retard
Is not an argument
>They do control supply
Steam does not control supply of games, period.

>What taxes have to do with prices

Very good question, ask your mother

So if Steam sets prices, why are games allowed to go higher than X and lower than y? Why are developers allowed to set their games on sale whenever they please? Please, explain :)

whats the game?

>huur duuuur we give discount if you develop game around steam woiks huuur duuur
fuck off. your tribe is dead

No, but I'm surprised it took this long in the thread for someone to mention this.

>No argument: the sequel

You know the vast majority of PC games aren't even on Steam, right? Hell, The Incredible Machine games are available in GOG.com and the Humble Monthly Trove (with a installer made by Disney), but not on Steam.

I hate Epic to spite you. Because I hate you.

Maximum secondhand embarrassment for you right now. No one cares that you emotionally identify with EGS because of Fortnite, kiddo.

sorry i own al lmy games on steam, and its the devs own fault for that.

>inching the PC that much closer to console war cancer.
reddit already did that with their "pc master race" maymay.

no, the reason i don't use epic is because i don't want my card stolen and fuck their beta ceo

How many of those copies sold were copies that Epic guaranteed sales for with their fortnite bux?

You do realize a difference between tax and fees?
Because i'm pretty sure you are fucking underage and you shouldn't be there.

If the 30% is supposed to affect prices, how come games are more expensive on the epic store?

If Valve drones really care about China's stake in video games then why do you NEVER see anyone complain about Perfect World or pasta bomb POE threads?

It's also worth mentioning part of the reason Steam does so well in other countries is because they support a lot of the more obscure payment methods those countries tend to sue.

See: that Malaysian dude on the Ooblets discord who was pointing out that he literally can't get the game now because Epic doesn't support payment methods in Malaysia(before getting told to fuck off because he's not entitled to being able to get the game).

Why are PC gamers, aka Gabe dick suckers, so mad at EPIC supporting devs?

They are not, it's that simple. Some of them are cheaper.

Please explain to me how Steam sets the prices of video games. I can wait all night, I got a brand new bottle of whiskey.

>I hate epic games because they use underhanded practice, and give no shits about consumers.
have you heard of a small indie company known as steam?

Didn't Metro Exodus' price triple in Russia when it went from Steam to Epic?

>steamniggers push and shove pc = steam narrative for years
>competitor finally arrives
>wahhhhh stop console warring
yeah nah eat shit steamniggers

Free quality games every week on EGS, bro. Stop being so angry

guaranteed 500+ replies
you guys are just like console war fags

In third world countries (like mine), Steam is always cheaper than the competition.

That screenshot was shopped by steamfags. Epic is supporting Malaysia.

Steamfags are literally left-wing news at this point

Nah, I'll just keep pirating.
Epic already supports the devs, explain to me objectively why they also need my support.

>Free quality games every week on EGS
woooooah $2 free games!

First, you would need to point where i said that. That may be difficult since you said that for no reason, not me.

>support devs
Fuck devs. Bunch of MTX-huffing, kickstarter-scamming, nostalgia-pandering and trend-riding scoundrels. Indie and AAA. To hell with them all.

I don't care some free shitty indie game. I want to know why Vampire the Masquerade costs almost ten dollars more on the epic store

>>Steam has no control over supply
>There are substitutes
>There are literally no barriers to entry
?

no steam,battlenet,origin = no buy

It did because 8 months ago there was no regional pricing. Not the case anymore

it's just one guy replying to himself
basically a bot with reply to self command thread
just look at them
same posts, same replies, every thread.

>They do control supply of every exclusive game to steam, which is the vast majority of pc games.
that's only because the developers in these cases never put their game up for sale anywhere else. there's no contract stopping them from doing that when you sell your game on steam, so that's an issue you would take up with the developers, not steam.
in the case of the EGS there IS a contract preventing some developers from selling their game on other storefronts for some time.
also there is no way that the "vast majority" of PC games are only on steam
how much does ebin pay you to shill the EGS?

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>where i said that
Ah, now he's back pedaling. This is the point where I take a screenshot of your post in which you stated that because Steam takes 30% they set the prices. Then you're going to respond saying
>Well I didn't explicitly state that! I got you there
Now, are you going to not be a faggot, or should we just get to the point where you give up and all caps the latest meme buzzword that Yea Forumsirgin redditors love parroting like zombies?

ah yes let me just put my game on that other popular game store..........

>also there is no way that the "vast majority" of PC games are only on steam
how much does ebin pay you to shill the EGS?

There is 30 000 games on steam, around 1000 games on gog, rest combined have less than 500 games.

Yes, vast majority of pc games are steam only shit for brains

>there is no way that the "vast majority" of PC games are only on steam
ivan you have spent too much on dota subscriptions and csgo skins i know. but please.

i use steam and i also pirate everything including the shit i own on steam. come at me

Saying that PC is master race is harmless retardation compared to actually introducing platform rivalry through aggressive exclusivity.

you mean steam? too bad we didnt fight it years ago.

This is a classic example of a Valve bot. Take notes everyone

>latest meme buzzword that Yea Forumsirgin redditors love parroting like zombies?
Strong words coming from a steamfag, afterall you and reddit share so much. For starters love for gaben cock.

And back to the main topic, i never said anything about 30% at all. So you prolly are talking about someone else

Taking products hostage is the scummiest way to compete and shows you have no faith in your own product, Tim.

Itch.io and GamersGate have lots of shovelware, Desura used to and DotEmu had an amount of exclusives too.

No, it's the only way of fighting steam cultist. And it's verry effective based on your butthurt

>ignore the contract part
>no argument
You guys are funny

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Oh, the redditor is now introducing a real fun one.
>I jumped into the quote chain at random, I'm not the previous guy!
Last (You), you soulless, brainless automaton.

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How many copies of that factorio knockoff were "bought" by Ebin itself?

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Name a single game that is exclusive to Steam due to Valve decreeing it so and isn't a first party game aka made by Valve. You can't because there are none.

this is the truth. the game has zero presence, the subreddit for the game has like 100 users. the game's biggest youtuber gets 500-2000 views per video. you're telling me that game sold 500k copies? fuck no.

A reminder that if Steam was actually a monopoly the EGS would never have existed in the first place

Not that guy but going through the reply chain, 30% was first mentioned here You're either someone else that jumped in on the argument or a terrible liar.

>WHAT IS TIM DOING WITH ALL THAT FORTNITE CASH?
I dunno but i guess it implies white powder and a nose.

it's a fun game desu. I'm glad they're being supported

steam is always cheaper period because you can just buy a cdkey from GMG

Introversion games in 2005.

500k

I hate EPIC GAMES because they have literally turned into what I hate most money grubbing pricks
This shit is why Trump got elected they are posers.
every one can see threw it also nice look what a fag.

youtube.com/watch?v=ao-Sahfy7Hg&list=RDMeoyOIRIeHs&index=2

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507,365

legit question, why do us epichads care about pcbros homo sexually fellating gaben, when we fellate tim 24/7 and do it in multiple threads at once

So, just like with epic. Nice

why aren't you mad at EA, bethseda, valve, and blizzard/activision?

it's a worse factorio on a worse platform. they're not being "supported" they're being kept on life support by chinese money.

Maybe in North America GMG is cheaper.

not really, no.
could I have bought DMC5 for $30 on the day of release if it was ebin exclusive?

Maybe because they didn't cockblocked releases of games they don't own or publish. Hell, Microsoft allowed Humble Hearts to self-publish Dust in GOG.

hi i see it is your first day here. we literally hate on all of those people everyday. might i suggest you lurk more before posting :)

yeah, feel free to put your game on gog, humble, or itch. ill buy your game on any of those if your game is good. im not married to steam i just use whatever gives me the best price.
sorry for not taking your word at face value when you didnt post the numbers in the first place.
regardless it doesnt change that none of those developers are stuck on steam. take it up with them if you want them to sell elsewhere

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I like Steam, I like Valve games.
I don't like Epic, I don't like what Epic makes, I don't like Tencent.
I don't want to support Epic, I don't want to support devs who deal a paid exclusivity contract with Epic, I don't want to support Tencent either for that matter.

For the record I have the Blizzard, GoG and even that shit Uplay client installed (but only for Anno 1800, god bless them).

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I'm fine with supporting devs. But I don't want to support EGS.

Because they don't bribe developers for exclusivity deals. Fuck EA, Bethesda, Actiblizzard, nu!Valve and Ebin.

O' But I am user.

Yeah and the problem is the devs outright lying with the help of epic and of course the masses just believes whatever comes out of their month.

It's working like this
Epic is paying you for certain amount of copies, in factorio case lets say 500k.
Epic is taking 100% of every transaction till you reach 500k. After that point you are getting money normally, that much we know from phoenix point. So factorio did indeed sold 508k copies and steamdrones are coping as always

All of you pirate fuck steal this bitch let's REK THIS MUTHER FUCKER. I'm counting on you to stomp this bitch out.

I don't see why not. It's all up to GMG

ah yes let me put it on Good old free pirate, humble steam code sore and lowqualitygames.io

It's called Satisfactory you fucking autist.

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RISE

And do this for a company and group of "people" who are outspokenly hateful towards you and consider you their mortal enemies for not helping them do something horrible and uncelled for?

Couldn't possibly be any more cucked than that unless you started the thread by posting an abhorrently disgusting, shit-eating, stinking foul assplay LGBT degenerate but OH WAIT... You did that too.

epic fags are the worst things on the planet.

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>Epic is taking 100% of every transaction till you reach 500k.
But what if there's only 100 people buying my games. Ebic will hold me hostage forever? Am I going to jail?

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Oh yes my bad, thank for correcting me user

Free games > Epic games > no games >>> steam

>lowqualitygames.io
Holy fuck, the cognitive dissonance of Steamtards. And Humble Store does has DRM-free games, just not the games they publish, as odd as they might sound.

No, you gotta keep your money and epic is at a loss. It's their whole strategy, to take the risk on themselves

No, Epic takes the heat and you can sell it anywhere else.

You dumb fuck those aren't genuine sales. Why? Because no one is playing them. 500k sales but they're all empty accounts.

retard logic
epic covered for 500k
people bought for 7k
end of story

>indie dev is a nigger
>steal his stuff
Sweet, sweet revenge

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proof?

COMPED

>to think this fuckhead made goat simulator.
What has the world gone too

of what? epic covering for 500k
fact that no one ever talks about gameplay itself, no streams, no discussions, not even journos wanking over it
no one buys the 507k copies sold

You mean Introversion Software, who made Uplink, Darwinia and Prison Architect? They were the ones who contacted Valve for a distribution deal when they were in financial trouble, and the deal that was struck wasn't exclusive. Valve did not make them sign anything that prohibited them from publishing anywhere else, they just chose to bank on Steam.

>le twitch popularity
oh you're just a retarded zoomer i see.
Not only that but also wrong in your own way, how retarded can you be?
fortnite is that way by the way.

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They literally retired their games from their own page because of said deal.

Samurai showdown director or one of the devs I think? Spilled the beans. They said that epic contacted them for an exclusivity deal and promise few thousand guaranteed copies sale. They declined.

>sweden
>mixed-race mutt with disgusting facial features
Jesus, the memes just create themselves.

unfortunate because samsho is gonna flop. he should have took the money

you dont get it do you
if game sold that much it would be on everyones mouth even remotely interested in game, but yet there are no discussions about it, you have to be stupid to belive 507k lie

Mordhau sold over 2kk copies, satisfactory sold 500k. Make sense based on google trends. This isn't even a huge succes, why are you feeling so insecure about that? Their fucking discord has 100k people on it, clearly 7k copies

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>dev declines Ebin fortnite money
>i-it's gonna flop!

Nope samsho director confirm the game sale was already a success just from Japanese preorders only.

Yet mordhau has constant discussions about it while you never hear about the second game, for someone trying to look for paterns you clearely cant spot one

There's nothing wrong with supporting chinese businesses

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the only games i play are from GoG though

Indians look so ugly, holyshit

You do realized that trend spike is when they announce that it will be epic exclusives right?
Mordhau launched less than 2 weeks after Satisfactory.

The deal did not include any such clause, though. It was entirely their own decision. Mostly because they saw very little if any sales at all from their own site after the initial rush of sales during the first six months.

Say what?

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>just add the exe as a shortcut.
Still have to wait for the damn client to start up. GOG is the only good DD service. Steam can be tolerated because it was the very first store and it has the largest selection of games. All others can burn in hell.

I support Chinese indie devs, like DragonSnow

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>polish nigger defending epic
enoying that little chinese dick i see Jacek Kowalski?

I posted hard data and all you can say is "but i don't see people talking about it". You can keep on denying reality for all i care

Let me teach you a new word.
niche
I love the constant daily factorio, zachtronic and path of exile, grand stratergy, farming simulator etc. threads. oh wait, I don't.
retarded zoomer, kys
also here

Epic is going to join forces with GoG very soon. Don't tell anybody

>As part of the launch and Steam's exclusivity, we will no longer be offering Darwinia as a download option from our site, although it will still be possible to purchase shipped boxed copies. At Valve's request we will also be removing the demo from our site for about a month.
forums.introversion.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=40203
40%.

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Hmmm, I wonder why I use Steam.
>install X-COM 2
>auto-installs all my gameplay, cosmetic and balancing mods and downloads my save file from cloud save
>install KOTOR 2
>auto-installs The Sith Lords Lost Content Resporation Patch
Oh, that's why.

Some Indians look alright, others unironically look like niggers.
Tis a strange land.

Was that just time limited for Darwinia? I bought DEFCON on disc without Steam from them in 2006 and their games are sold DRM-free in other stores.

you hard data means jack shit because it's the initial search before launch, once the game is out you would have people discussing it especialy with the amount of copies they sold, so i will keep being sceptical because this whole thing smells

Epic is literally killing GOG.

my bad

ale z ciebie pedał
wypierdalaj kurwo

Huh, I stand corrected. I wonder what the point of such a deal was for Valve. It's not like their games were hugely popular and profitable at the time.

proofs?

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>/vg/
is where games go to die, aint working in your favour
>niche
>sold half a million
really gets that chinese money counted

>Was that just time limited for Darwinia?
Just like Epic exclusives.
>their games are sold DRM-free in other stores
True. However, they delisted the DRM-free version of their old games in Humble Store.

I guess they were popular in the United Kingdom.

The only thing i'm going to say is that tim really like gog as of late

so no proofs

Implying i would post non public information

>Niche means bad sales
just stop, this is embarasing.
You're already deluded enough Vladimir.

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>dude trust me
my dad works at gog and cdprojekt red and he says ur full of shit and a janitor

You don't have to trust me, you just have to wait

wrong
isnt very niche game where it sells so much, goes beyond that but you need a brain to realize that, shame you sold one to chinks

That's pretty much what niche implies. Are you retarded?

When will Tim stop selling Steam keys in GamersGate?

and hear what? epic failing again? they do that daily with tim doing great pr

>vladimir

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If you belived that yourself, you wouldn't be here.

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I hate EGS because their service is bad. Simple as that. I don't particularly care about Steam.

appealing to a small audience doesn't mean bad sales.this is next level retardation from valve-drones. Holy shit.
>guhhh all de zales are from ebin xd even though i have no proof. I just feel it in my zoomer instincts.
that is not an argument Ivan

action speak louder than words and so far tim aint helping himself at all

>its a niche
>apparently sells more than a niche game
>ur just dubm am rite
certified retard you are janusz

wtf an Indian lied to me on the internet??!!

>Support devs

But none of the sales will go to the developer until sales hit an arbitrary point that will never actually happen because it's the EGS and nobody uses it for anything but Fortnite. My sale only benefits Epic, and I don't want to support a very mediocre store headed by a man who heavily implied he doesn't care about the consumer at all

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Why are you implying your detractors are Russians?

>steam

You mean the PC platform that heavily values customers over devs/publishers?

fpbp. Pretty much this. Hell, for me if you're gonna not use GoG (basically allowing me to control my copy of the game completely) then I'm pirating. At least then I have complete control over my copy.

Am I retarded, or does OP's post make no sense?

Kek, the seedy website I buy roids from has a shopping cart
How embarassing

see we already went through this dimitri.

Factorio is niche. and it has also sold more than a niche game guess that changes the games target audience somehow based on your retarded logic.

>Google
>Twitter
>Facebook
>Steam
i don't want to create another fucking account for games i'll never play, just fuck it.

Mah boi

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Whatever you say, Chang.

They heavily value money, not customers. Unless you want to explain to me how them refusing refunds for years was pro consumer. And what pro-consumer thing are they doing in general, because i don't see any

How long are we waiting exactly?

I would have no issues with epic if the store was not garbage you would find 15 years ago and they did more then throw around tons of money desperately grasping for exclusives because they know what they have is garbage and its the only way to get any notice

>Don't want to open the launcher, then just add the exe as a shortcut.
it doesn't work that way and you fucking know it

Fuck Tencent, and fuck Tencent devs

Industry standard

REMIND THAT "COPIES SOLD" INCLUDES THE COPIES THAT EPIC THEMSELVES BOUGHT, THIS MEANS THAT THEY LITERALLY SOLD 7000 COPIES LMFAO

Yellow bugman chinamen need to be wiped out.

its okay Mikhail i know you've got too much sunk cost in volo skins and dota plus, that it may have affected your thinking process

Yeah, indie devs who have never run a business in their life

source

yes we have been through this Ivan and like i said before, people still discuss and talk about factorio while not about satisfactory, sales translate to interest aka talks, discussions etc yet the only time you hear about this gamr is when they do somethinf stupid or epic related, that alone makes me not buy the 507k copies sold, hard observation Ivan :^)

Yeah this. Devs lost their "good boy" card when they started doing the same shit publishers do. They acted all nice and honest and blamed publishers for everything (not to say they aren't a huge problem) but really devs in general have been just as bad. Publishers do it just because of plain, blind greed. Devs do it because they think their special and that anything they make is precious and automatically deserves a free pass because they put time into it or greed. So really you pick either of those sides, you lose. Once again, you either stick with other like-minded customers or you get taken advantage of.

how many is that though?

wait its almost like if you make a thread about the game, the pcbros make it all about egs. hmmmm.

The devs were oddly specific. How many companies would put their copies down to the last number rather than just 500k?

And here's where you go back to how things used to be as if it's a relevant attack on current-day Steam. Steam allows devs to freely (within reason) generate keys to sell to third-party storefronts which results in better prices for the customer. Steam allows reviews of the game they sell on Steam (while Epic's said they don't want that or at the very most an opt-in system). Steam is continuously updating controller support with their client so you can plug-n-play with pretty much anything without any fuss. Valve has heavily invested in Proton to give Linux support for all games, meaning that the future of your PC vidya isn't reliant on Microsoft's continued success

>Provides a smorgasbord of features like VR integration, servers, forums for people to troubleshoot and report bugs, mod tools, to make publishing your game as easy and smooth as possible
>Has the biggest audience of customers willing to buy good products
>But boo hoo they won't pay me a fat check to do some retarded exclusivity deal so Epic better
If this retarded fucking cut meant anything people would be praising the Discord store with their tiny cut

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You're implying I like nu!Valve.
They're just the lesser evil compared to Tim and his monopolistic antics,

90k people on discord as stated before, cope harder steamcel. I bet you think there is no way fortnite is popular, we don't talk about it on Yea Forums afterall

>have zoomers pay for the game
It's not all bad, but expecting me to buy anything from egs is just too much senpai.

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wasnt my thread Dima, im just not buying your blyat

this is how they get the headlines, epic pays a multiple of the sales price so that devs can say they "sold x amount of units"

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When did I say I liked Steam? I know fortnite is popular. And neither of those things make Valve or Epic good. Their both cancer to this medium. If people care about it they'd support no DRM and move to GoG. But this "battle" over Steam and Epic Games' launcher is just a distraction from quality purchase choices. In the end if all other store alternatives die except Steam and Epic Games, it's gonna be Microsoft and Sony console wars all over again. Where both sides argue over how much less their getting ripped off by the one side or the other while their rights as consumers continue to diminish and features slowly get taken away.

Gog flat out will reject games from their store if they aren't old PC classics or hyped upcoming releases and the others like Origin, Uplay and Bethesda.net aren't intrested in your games unless you make some kind of publishing deal with EA/Ubisoft/Bethesda
Valve isn't forcing devs to stay on Steam, everyone else just makes it too much of a hassle to move away and Epic is no different, they rejected Skatebird because it already had a kickstarter that was gonna give away Steam keys

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this is an egs thread tho, did you not read op?

How do indies manage to get on GoG then? Many of them are not hyped. Odallus was not hyped and it isn't classic.

I don't give a fuck about devs.

this

>Steam allows devs to freely (within reason) generate keys to sell to third-party storefronts which results in better prices for the customer.
This is literally against valve rules. You offer your thanks to GMG which find a way to fuck with valve.
>Steam is continuously updating controller support with their client so you can plug-n-play with pretty much anything without any fuss.
Yeah, that's good. i"m not a controller fag so not for me, but good anyway

>Valve has heavily invested in Proton to give Linux support for all games, meaning that the future of your PC vidya isn't reliant on Microsoft's continued success
C'mon you know they didn't did that for linux folks, they did that because they want their own os based on linux. If anything, you should be thanking microsoft for that which is quite funny if you ask me

>This is literally against valve rules
No it isn't you fucking idiot

He's just a Steamtard.

>This is literally against valve rules
Except it isn't and devs can do it if they want, within reason just like he said.

>This is literally against valve rules
retarded detected; all other points discarded

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They don't allow you to sell it at a much lower base price than Steam. Other than that, anything goes.

Offering diffrent prices is against valve rules. Amount of keys you can generate is "within reason", and this is what the other guy was talking about

A website called Fanatical very often does a 20% discount on pre-orders all the time. You're talking out your arse.

>Offering diffrent prices is against valve rules
Then how are games often cheaper on stores like humble or GMG?

>You should use keys to sell your game on other stores in a similar way to how you sell your game on Steam. It is important that you don't give Steam customers a worse deal.

>t's OK to run a discount on different stores at different times as long as you plan to give a comparable offer to Steam customers within a reasonable amount of time.

"Potential". Just like EGS. If a game looks promising, or come from a developer with good record, it could easily enter those stores. That tough, can't be said about games made by small first time devs, even if their game looks good, they lack curriculum and have dificulty getting in. And that without touching the subject of being controversial, these things makes it even harder to get in. To get on EGS or GOG is a long via crucis of emails in and out, and constant bargaining.

About Steam? Greenlight made it easier for publishing your game there, but now you don't even need community support: Literally just pay them a 100 dollars fee for the server and and your game can be on Steam. Steam don't have more games published per month than others because of scammy money tactics or exclusivity, they do it because it's easier to publish there, and the store is more popular. You could be publishing a game about fucking lolis and licking their cunnies, they will only ban you if someone complains. Play it cool, like Evenicle where the lolis are not in the cover and are reached only midgame, and you will never have a problem.

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I have an online friend who made a shitty game and published on Steam, and he gave a fuckton of keys for people, and I doubt anyone payed for that garbage, so I guess you don't know what you are talking about.

List fag shut the *fuck* up.

Greenlight required some degree of popular support and, as such, was killed. Now there's no barrier.

>they do it because it's easier to publish there, and the store is more popular.
During a long time it was easier to publish in Desura. Guess what happened?

Had to google to know what the fuck that shit was. Probably died from irrelevance, just like itch.io will.

So, the point is made. Being easier to publish in is not an advantage.

>Before epic, why hasn't complained steam monopoly was hurting GOG
Tiananmen Square Massacre

That still wouldn't mean 7k sold. Not apologizing for Epic, mind you. My friends and I were planning on buying four copies when it hit early access to play together, but now we've all but forgotten the game exists due to it. Not installing chinese malware on my machine for one indie game.

That said though, since it's a guarantee, the "EGS sales are included in the figure" would only make sense if they said 500k copies sold. If they did indeed sell 7k only, then those 7k would have already been included in the total number. As a result, the number would stay flat at 500k until the 500,001st unit is sold, at which point it would start incrementing as normal.

Still doesn't explain how they sold 507k and the game is still complete crickets on discussion. I think it's much more plausible to think they just flat out made the number up.

Oh yes i remember them, they even offered linux support for their games before steam did. Too bad customers don't care about features

or maybe they just counted "epic money÷price per copy" and called it a day

Nah. Their secure is shit and chinks will do their best to attempt to crack into your account to get fortnite shit.

I wonder if these indies realize that if their game goes badly and doesn't sell they're probably not going to get another similar deal with Epic.

I don't get these kind of deals. At least with Borderlands you will attract normies, but with stuff like that Goose game... I doubt it.

>Not download installer
>support devs
>Pirate game
It's that simple. Don't want to open my torrents folder, I just add the exe as a shortcut

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Maybe it’s just a coincidence but no game that Epic has spent their chink money hoarding onto their platform has ever been on my radar, nor looked good upon minor inquiry. So let them waste all of their Fortnite money on this garbage as far as I’m concerned. They can eat themselves alive and it’s no skin off of my back. But on the off chance they ever do buy exclusive rights to a game I want, I’m going straight for the torrent.

Don’t insult me with your featureless launcher, Tim.

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>Tim is doing it "for the developers"
>the devs who actually work for Tim making Fortnite shit complain about how exploitative and abusive their working environment is
Indies willfully trying to sign the industry over into monopolized slavery under the boot of Timmy Tencent and his chink pals. "B-b-but gaben abloobloo"; shortsighted and greedy, or useful idiot?

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How about, brace yourself, we buy and download the games without a stupid fucking useless installer DRM? I've bought dozens of games from GOG without GOG Galaxy. It's not difficult to make a folder on your C: drive to dump game files and a folder on your desktop for executable shortcuts.

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>Admit it Valve drones, the only reason you hate epic is because they are a threat to your tribe.
No you fuckiing retard. It's because they're bring console bullshit to the PC. Steam never made anyone only release on their platform. No one wants exclusivity bullshit on the PC, for even trying it Epic deserves the rope.

I like GOG

>always the same few ESL third-worlders shilling this storefront

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Steam is fine
They need to remove/hide all the fucking stupid shovelware tho
At least force developers into labeling their games properly so I can filter them

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>And that without touching the subject of being controversial, these things makes it even harder to get in.
During a long time, GOG.com (and GamersGate and Amazon) were the only stores who took AO-rated games. There's also the Shining Song Starnova case.
techraptor.net/content/shining-song-starnova-gog
Dilate.

I like it too, but due to curation, I buy some stuff outside of it.

I got into the galaxy beta and its fantastic, like playnite but not garbage. Nice to just ignore these chidish store wars and buy wherever is cheapest, all the same library for me.

Why?

The point of GOG is not needing launchers.

Fuck off ESL
Derp, retarded monolingual

I'm talking about now, user. Now it is hard to get your game on GOG if it is surrounded on some sort of controversy, they are no longer as open as they were before. 6 years ago Nintendo was the one that censored and not Sony, doesn't mean it is still the same, stuff inverted.

Praise the pooh president, sick man of asia.

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GoG will always be here. It's steam cults that are complaining

The point of galaxy is consolidate multiple librarys, and to keep your shit updated. The point of GOG is drm free gaming, their launcher is not drm unlike steams or epic etc.

I don't remember paying $300 to install egs games. Fuck off kid

>Now it is hard to get your game on GOG if it is surrounded on some sort of controversy, they are no longer as open as they were before.
[citation needed]
The Starnova case wad literally a year ago. 40%.

Listfag we’re all tired of you, now fuck off.

you know who doesn't have shovelware? You guessed it, EPIC GAME STORE

>IT'S JUST ANOTHER LAUNCHER
so was the one for EA, U-Play, and many more. Epic Launcher doesn't threaten Valve and make Valve competitive, Epic isn't even a good launcher, GoG is better.

Daily reminder that OP is an infamous shitposter who has been spamming threads of this nature for years. He slipped up in a Monster Hunter thread a few weeks back and had since been exposed as being behind Monster Hunter shitpost threads for nearly 2 years. The EGS threads beginning with this image are all started by him. Please remember to report Listfag whenever this thread is made.

Opus Magnum.
The CAVE game's that now belong to Degica, like Mushihimesama, Deathsmiles, and DoDonPachi Resurrection.
All with the same shallow excuse of "too niche for GOG".

Try harder, chink.

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None of these games are controversial at any degree. Don't forget to dilate.

That's not the point. The point is being forced to use another store that less features that are beneficial for consumers. For example EGS doesnt have regional pricing so some people might be forced to pay even over 80 bucks just to play it. Not to mention egs forcing the user the pay up the transaction cost for the game which steam covers because of their cut. So combine that and the non regional pricing problem and you might end up paying over 100 bucks.

>For example EGS doesnt have regional pricing so some people might be forced to pay even over 80 bucks just to play it.
They do have regional pricing. In Russia VTMB2 was too cheap in EGS.

>500k sales
>nobody talks about the gameplay, even their reddit page is a desolate wasteland
>only shows up in EGS shilling threads

nice game

As a consumer I have yet to be given a reason to support Epic. They don't even have a functional cart, their first sale was a shitshow, and Tim seems to enjoy being a jackass on Twitter for the press. Also I haven't actually seen a game I want to play on EGS yet anyway lol

>monopoly

every time. Steam never had a monopoly. it's so fucking easy to spot chinks these days

I stand corrected. Regional pricing is not available in alot of countries yet. He'll some countries don't even work with egs if I remember correctly

EGS literally can't exist without buying out exclusives. Imagine if they didn't. Steamfags would be saying they'd just buy the game on their platform because it's where all their games are already.

offer a reason that is beneficial for the customer then

88/12 split duh

That's not beneficial. That's even worst for customers since they are forced to pay for transaction cost on egs unlike steam which does cover the cost with their 30% cut

how is that beneficial for the customer? only thing it does is making the customer pay for the transaction fees because epic doesnt want to put up for it

I don't buy EA games and Bethesda came running back.

the more money the devs make, it will result to better games made

AAA publishers are getting more money than ever and what we got is that they will push for more MTX.

still doesnt benefit the customer since they have to spend more money for the product besides no one belives that bullshit

When is that going to start happening?

Devs have been drowning in money all gen thanks to microtransactions and it's just meant worse games.

what is star citizen?

Don't forget lower store cut means big sales aren't worth doing for them. Good luck seeing 75% off if Valve only got 12% cuts.

>Claim you sold 507000 copies
>500 000 were bought by Epic

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Fuck game developers.

we barely get 75% off as it is now, rip flash sales

based and fuckpilled

Why do people talk about Steam "exclusives" like it is anything like what Epic does? I don't buy for a second that Epic needed to buy exclusives to get their storefront on the map considering they already had tons of people installing it for Fortnite.

>When you can't make Epic look good without bringing up Steam 15 years ago

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blame it to people buying MTX and those ultimate packs bullshit. If people don't purchase them, devs will not waste development time making them
$60 game will still be $60. Regional pricing makes it even lower.
it's already happening
stop buying shit games. if people don't buy shit games, devs will not make them
scam citizen is a different story

Well, the free advertising the game and Epic are getting is just priceless.

based

How high is OP's social credit score now, do you think?

>blame it to people buying MTX and those ultimate packs bullshit.
The point is that getting more money doesn't means more quality, at all.

>Sell 20 000 copies
>Epic's deal ends and they buy another 490 000 copies off of you
>Sell 7000 more copies
>Write article
And this is how the jew tricks you.

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It's like handball in anti piracy threads

if i need to choose between two bads steam or epic i will keep up with steam, at least they have more tools, such as community hub, easy way to download and install my mods and quick page review before buying the game, epic can suck my dick for all the drama it started

except the customer has to pay transaction fees that alone makes your argument a bullshit

DO WHAT YOU WANT CUZ A PIRATE IS FREE

Give me ONE reason why you shouldn't just pirate everything. You're given the choice to get the same thing that you'd get by spending money, only this way you spend nothing. There are zero downsides for you as a player.

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> I don't buy for a second that Epic needed to buy exclusives to get their storefront on the map
well you're 100% wrong, so I dunno what else to tell you

Considering how long he has spent on the internet to post so many threads is say he is in the red. He probably got beate... Rehabilitated by the army for internet addiction

What data do you have for that? People by virtue of playing fortnite already have the store installed. All it would take some advertisement and quality of life improvements for the customer and it would've had no worries being talked about.

Dedicated sales can still be alright. Doom 2016 was 25% during the summer sale but 75% off during quakecon.

Does Steam even have any actual exclusives outside of the games they themselves made?

Should have pick some more random number. Like 623,597 copies sold.
"Epic Games, Inc will guarantee sales of Five Hundred Thousand (500,000) copies of the Game irregardless of..." read like something written in contract letter.

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In the actual legal sense: No.
In the sense that you can only get a game on Steam (because the developers felt like it but aren't under contract or with monetary incentive to do so): I guess.

you thinking that fortnite players care about other epic store games is cute

No it doesn't, that isn't at all how it works. Making more money does not in fact translate to better quality. If that was the case Blizzard would've done something to improve WoW after WoD made them $600 million on launch day

>stop buying shit games. if people don't buy shit games, devs will not make them
>vote with your wallet when the market is flooded with easily tricked plebs

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Surely you made a good point.

based

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I don't understand how this point is so hard for people like to grasp.

I'm saying it doesn't matter if I personally am smart enough to not buy shit games, when there are millions that will anyway.

>heh... US CONSUMERS
why reduce yourself to that? grow up, be a man

People literally are and the smart ones are completely ignoring those companies

You realize just because you have a vote doesn't mean you deserve to win every election when you're the minority?

>Buy games on GoG
>They come in a neat little installer package that's compressed.
>Makes it super simple to copy it to an external device to back up for future use.

GoG is literally the best way to go.

More to the point, why vote in the first place if your vote is meaningless? It's like voting Republican for president when you live in California, your vote is literally thrown away and doesn't matter.

>Here's my source
>

I don't care about the devs, I don't care about the store. Pirating everything is the only smart thing to do, if you're doing something else then you aren't coming out ahead.

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Silence nonhuman

I want it on Steam, I have Factorio, so I don't really need that game.
The mods in Factorio are a million times more fun than that.

You people are literally children mistaking their favourite toy companies for personal friends. When the real question you should be asking yourself is "why am I paying for this at all?"

>bring console bullshit to the PC
This is also why Facebook's Oculus exclusive store is bullshit.
They're fracturing a already small community.

Who the fuck cares about the developers?
We're CONSUMERS, if someone offers you a product you don't want you don't buy it.

Even if developers gets a bigger share on the EGS it doesn't affect us consumers cause now developers will get more on EGS than Steam.

YOU ARE A PIRATE
Rest in peace, Karl

Valve was always cancer and people still refuse to admit it.
They even brainwash themselves into thinking HL2 is anything more than a 6/10 game because they want to advertise for Valve for free and they need something to talk about so they just choose that over rated piece of trash game.
Valve always gets a pass, and Gabe never gets called out for being the literal Jew that he is.
GOG is no better. One of the co founders of CDPR started out in business by selling pirated software, but now he doesn't want people pirating even though he actually made money off of it, unlike most people who pirate, in the past.
Fuck Epic too.

>Who the fuck cares about the developers?
It's literally a tactic to try and emotionally manipulate you to support their position, as if you should give a shit about people you don't even know.

Steam shills love themself some sweaty gaben ass though

>One of the co founders of CDPR started out in business by selling pirated software, but now he doesn't want people pirating even though he actually made money off of it, unlike most people who pirate, in the past.
Source? And if neither companies nor customer care about that, why do you give a fuck?

His first name was Stefán though.

Maybe it's because I remember the time before Steam when the idea of having to run an extra piece of software in order to access your game library was thought of as dumb and unnecessary, but I just can't find it in me to care about this Epic stuff. Just make a desktop shortcut and never open the actual launcher, how fucking hard is that?

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I'll get a game on EGS when there is a single exclusive worth downloading it for. It's that simple. Why do faggot journos want me to use it so badly?

all of the points that guy tries to make about other industries not caring about piracy are absolutely untrue

>Source?
Marcin Iwiński said that when he was in high school, copyright laws in Poland were literally nonexistent so he sold cracked copies of videogames in a Warsaw marketplace.

In steam's case, it's convience, cloud saves are god tier.

outer wilds is pretty great

>Why do faggot journos want me to use it so badly?
There's not a single article in the whole thread.

user, I don't think you know what a source is...

It's not about the industries and the fact that you make that argument means either you're an idiot that can't understand the simple thing he's saying, or you're arguing in bad faith. What he's saying is that in these other markets, you aren't chastised by your fellow consumers for pirating. Yea Forums doesn't give a shit that you torrent anime, Yea Forums doesn't give a shit that you torrent comic books (for the most part), Yea Forums definitely doesn't give a shit that you torrent movies and tv shows. /g/ does not give a shit that you pirated windows, just that you're an idiot for using that OS in the first place. Forget just /gif/, you're hard pressed to find ANYONE on the internet that gives a shit that you steal porn. Only on Yea Forums do people go moralfag on you.

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Fine, you want a source, I'll give you one that has him say it in an interview. I just don't like linking to this site
polygon.com/features/2014/7/16/5884227/cd-projekt-the-witcher-3

Thanks.

oh if you're just talking about Yea Forums then sure. but go outside of here and plenty of people will get on your shit for pirating anime or movies or whatever

But who cares what they think though?

>but go outside of here and plenty of people will get on your shit for pirating anime or movies or whatever
Not really. The fact that everyone, even old grandmas, download mp3s of music these days. Pirating music is so widespread that people simply accept it as part of how the world works.

>nobody takes issue with pirating photoshop
Only because there's no records of a purchased copy of photoshop ever having existed.

>thinking the general public downloads mp3s anymore
everyone's streaming now moron, get with the times

To be fair, all those places pirate because they don't want to pay for it. Yea Forums try to excuse their piracy through bullshit reasons. Nigga I pirate games, and it's not cause I can't find a copy of it somewhere, or because I don't want to install some launcher, or because I don't want some dev to make money from me, or some other reason. I just don't want to fucking pay for it period.

>Admit it Valve drones, the only reason you hate epic is because they are a threat to your tribe.

no, we hate it because they're trying to force monopoly and use steam as advertising. all they do is just talk shit about steam and expect everyone to migrate over.

>another epic shill thread
oh pajeet im not bumping your thread ever take my (you) and some bandwidth

>Yea Forums try to excuse their piracy through bullshit reasons.
Because they feel bad about something that they shouldn't. They forgot about the chart.

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My friend's parents paid for Photoshop 3 or something. I think 6 or 7 had just come out and I was trying to pirate it on dial up, and my friend offered to lend me his copy of it. That was nearly 20 years ago, and the only purchased copy of Photoshop I have ever seen.

I don't hate epic, I'm just unwilling to download another launcher. It's bad enough that I have big box and steam to deal with, I ain't fucking with any others and I especially ain't fucking with any chink shit on my PC. Chinkshit is for my other DIY electronics around the house that are on their own network isolated from everything else.

Well, I suppose someone had to sacrifice for the rest of us.

When is satisfactory coming to steam?

March 19th 2020. It will get devoured by Borderlands 3.

I download flac which I then convert to ogg like a true patrician.

Cheers, but you mean it won't sell because memelands 3 releases at the same time?

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>507,374 copies of Literally Who: The Game