Well, that's it. It was a good run but the game's balance has now been ruined. We won't be recovering from this

MAD.

>implying they play smash and your just not mad that everyone isn't agreeing with you

>your

he's pretty ok. side b should be slower tho.

this bother anyone else's autism

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*ahem*

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE

I literally have never seen anyone playing as the DQ4 hero online. 90% are the 3 and 8 hero and the the other 10% are the 11 hero.

I've never played a DQ game but I think green with the helmet is the best looking one.

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No, that kind of thing always happens when you put a hat on.

It's a shame because he easily has the coolest design and the best voice, and even the best name. It's just that DQ4 isn't a very popular game, I guess.

>implying I give a shit about balance in a party game

I think his shield looks the coolest

Competitive Smash is such a fucking joke. Learn to adapt.

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i just really hate the way his crown looks
everything else is pretty good

HOES

not a fan of comp smash in particular but this comic is still terrible

>forced to arrive at using fucking GOLF because it literally wouldn't have worked for anything else
>when a golf hole is typically played by one person at a time

>all his attacks are unbelievably broken

Forward smash (non crit), Kafrizz, and Kazap are a little excessive. That's about it.

>getting hit by a stationary character that has to scroll through a menu, find and execute OHKO
>imagine being this bad at smash

The absolute state of competitive fags, this is why no one takes you retards seriously. If the game dies, good, let it die. Now you pathetic fucks can shower and learn a proper fighting game

>golf analogy

This comic is supposed to be mocking the guy on the left and yet it gives him the best line, "You thundering faggot."

Hero is incredibly vulnerable once hit, he has the worst disadvantage state in the game, and his recovery is easily exploitable

>B-but my RNG
Hit him out of it

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This, the menu is a dumb meme you only go to for buffs. You're better off using MP on his other specials when possible.

Fuck balancing games, especially fighting games because nothing will ever please those try hards

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I play Loto/Erdrick just because he's voiced by the King of Fucking Braves. I hate being lumped with the Vergefag/HOES MAD shitposters.
I just want to hear Hiyama again after all these years.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZI_6p0GMIAQ
Fair and balanced as all things should be.

This is a dumb fucking comic made by someone who doesnt understand jack shit about anything let alone Smash

Hey, no fair, there's an Edelgard thread going on right now and I wanted to post this picture. You fucking wasted it.

Don't get me wrong, GaoGaiGar is great, but you realize that you can just say OoT/64/Melee Link and even normies will be like "Oh yeah that voice is awesome."

I think the "lol randumb" shit in his general toolkit (down B and Hocus Pocus) is - for the most part - fine.
What's messed up is how much the shit from down b and HP stacks with a stupid thing like Critical Strikes.
Remove Crits, and Hero becomes a manageable character.

>Golf analogy

Are you fucking high? You can post the same image in different threads. The only exception is OP images.

Not sure why everyone is jumping to conclusions we haven't seen his performance in a tournament yet. As far as i'm concerned he's fun to play and play against competitive or otherwise so I don't care. RNG is never going to carry a bad player in any competitive setting so I see no issue with it. It's always going to be unreliable.

could have just as easily kamakazied himself

IMO the only two things about Hero that I hate are that his buffs stack and they stack with his crits.

I have some pretty easily solution that Sakurai will probably come up with himself if he thinks about it for two seconds.

1. These buffs (Oomph, Psyche Up, Acceleratle, Bounce) don't stack, one will always override the other if you try.

2. While under the effects of these buffs, Critical hit chances go to 0.

3. Thwack and Whack have a 0% chance of killing until 100% where they have a 50% chance of killing that rises by 1% for every 1% of damage past 100%

4. Magic Burst doesn't work unless you have 100% Mana

5. Kamikaze doesn't work unless you have less than 10 mana

Done.

smash babbies will never recover from this LOL BTFO

Are Skullgirls hitboxes really that precise? No wonder every character costs a million dollars to make. And they had the audacity to tease us with a dozen characters we'll never get like Scythana and the fish one.

Why is Solo so pissed?

>BRO JUST HIT HIM BRO
>BRO WHY DID YOU RUN UP TO HIM LIKE A RETARD BRO
>BRO JUST SHIELD BRO
>BRO WHY DID YOU SHIELD BRO IT'S YOUR FAULT YOUR SHIELD GOT BROKEN LMAO
>JUST GET GOOD BRO LMAOOOOOOO

Fucking faggot.

>I only hate this one aspect
>proceeds to wish three other things were changed

Keep crying baddies, I'll just kill you at 30% using Mana Burst every time RNGesus blesses me with it

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take responsibility of your retarded actions and fucking strategize you paste-eating idiot

Who cares, and why? If he bugs you throw down a house rule. If you can't handle losing a game then don't play it, period.

I got this from reddit.
Fuck you.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZI_6p0GMIAQ

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Hero is like the Shulk of Smash Bros, he is going to be very strong once he gets players who are good at reading the command menu and selecting a spell very quickly.

>audacity to tease
Which is why they explained they could only afford to animate a few more characters

Damn, that Hero is going to get hit by a car tomorrow. While on the roof of a building.

>tfw you reflect whack

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And yet they showed us a fuckton of them. Like if they could only do three characters or whatever the number was, why would they show literally 30 fucking characters. Show like 5-10 at most.

Also, what is this image supposed to be?

Only a braindead Herofag would not even be able to use basic reading comprehension. Stop embarrassing yourself, cuck.

Mrs.Game and Watch

Speaking of Mr.Game and Watch, now is a really good time to learn him. Bucket can completely shit on Hero's day.

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Hero isn't even that good.
If he gets some lucky RNG, that's one thing, but the odds are against him, and he gets his shit pushed in by rushdown and camping playstyles, yes that's right, projectile spam is a very good option against Hero, because he has to bring up his menu and select bounce, but you can easily just shoot him some more and hit him out of the menu before he can select it, or before the spell can finish casting, because there is actually a small winddow where the casting of bounce can be canceled before he gets the effect. On top of that he needs to get lucky enough to roll bounce in the menu, so as long as you spam enough projectiles, and don't let him find a safe space, he can't cast bounce unless he just starts quickly picking the first menu option and gets really lucky, but that could also result in him selecting kamikazee or magic burst, and congrats, with some projectile spam you either just forced him to run dry on his only threatening aspect or got a free kill.
When it comes to his other 3 specials, he can be pretty great at times, but he needs the MP for them, once Hero runs low on MP, he becomes much less threatening, because his standard attacks are just straight up ass, and he needs to manage to hit you with those in order to get any worthwhile MP back.

He's like A tier at best.

>Hero is like the shulk of Smash bros

You mean he has a bunch of tech that he needs to be good while other characters can get by on fundies alone?

>he's not even that good bro just check out this scenario of a skilled player versus a less skilled player I just made up

Its not about how good he is or isn't, its about the fact that his inherent randomness is just going to make games that involve him not fun and the results less dependent on player skill/decisions made during the match.

Like no one is going to say
>Wow, well-played, GG, would play again
After losing to shit like this
Obviously its an extreme example but you get the idea, people just don't like feeling like they lost due to randomness they had no control over, its one of the major reasons items are banned in the first place. No one likes a coin flip deciding matches.

>spamming projectiles nonstop makes someone a skilled player
Gee, if your standards are that low, you must really be shit at this game.

No one says GG to losing to a random 9 from G&W, a sudden bob-omb from Peach/Daisy, or a misfire from Luigi either.

Also games involving Hero are incredibly fun, at the very least for one side, because Hero is the most fun character to play in the game.

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Just pressure him a lot, force him to use MP by knocking him off stage at low percents. (Kaswoosh requires 18 mp)

His up air isn't that great. He can't hit behind himself quickly. Just keep pressuring him and try to gimp his recovery.

Stay out of range of his side B, utilize jumping attack angles, don't get forward smashed, his grabs are weak, he has like no combos, his down smash is kind of weak. He commits to all his options, you can reflect most of his spells, etc.

>No one says GG to losing to a random 9 from G&W, a sudden bob-omb from Peach/Daisy, or a misfire from Luigi either.
You're right, but those all have comparatively low chances of happening and its a single move they have. RNG is Hero's whole deal and we don't need MORE of the above RNG nonsense.

There's no harm in having more RNG nonsense. Learn to accept the fact that shit can happen and move on, instead of bitching about how bullshit it is when you get hit by it (like some people I know irl)

>Dragon Quest killed Smashfags

sounds pretty h*cking based to me

>Don't ask questions, just buy character and get excited for next characters

Hang yourself, bootlicker.

You RLM fanboys are cringe.

Seething.

At low percents he can get back on stage with Woosh or Swoosh, he doesn't need to waste MP on Kaswoosh.

ít also says it's competitive, while FGC isn't, so what now fuckface?

>Tfw Falco main

It would be a shame if a laser forced you to close your menu every second of the match

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Wait, Peach can pull a Bob-omb? I've been playing since 64 and I've never seen that. Is that only with items on?

Peach isnt in 64

The weaker swoosh spells are only good for horizontal recovery. Land some low percent spikes on Hero early in the match to force him to burn through his mp.

Just wall him out of neutral as long as you can and limit his options.

I've still been playing since 64 though.

Its been a thing since she was introduced in Melee, and items being on or off has no effect. She can just randomly pull a bob-omb.
Another thing random with her is that she can pull even more powerful turnips sometimes, with one being an instant shield breaker because its so strong.

>jump
>Down B, select first move if is not trash or kamikaze
>You and i won't even have time to react to the madness that will happen

G&W already does
T. Won a loser’s bracket and 40$ using him

>There's no harm in having more RNG nonsense
Says who? You?

The entirety of the competitive community disagrees.

Says Sakurai. He clearly doesn't give a fuck about competitive, and Hero is his way of telling you all to suck it.
Hoes are indeed mad.

Based DQ heroes literally destroying competitive Smash.

He has a good design but its one of the least interesting MC in any DQ, since the structure of 4 focus on the rest of the cast and Solo ends up being an overarching element

The spells are pretty limited in their range and speed. Best case scenario you get a buff, but the buffs have downsides a la shulk. Worst case scenario you die/waste all your mp.

also in golf you're limited to clubs of a certain caliber so golf isn't even a good argument

God I hope Hero gets buffed, he’s super fucking shit. Cut his mana costs in half

HOES MAD

Just run up and block, or grab, or dash attack. You literally cannot let him breathe.

Don't even joke man.

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$5.99 for the online meta king

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they need to buff his magic burst by making it closer to the game variant
damage should be (MP used)x2

Since this is the only DQ thread up and it's semi relevant, how do you save in DQB2 multiplayer? It makes no sense that I lost everything after I got disconnected.

In Ultimate she can occasionally pull out a Beam Sword, not sure if that was a thing since ssb4 though.

>Siz, Sizzle, Bang, Kaboom, Thwack
>25% or more to get a projectile
>Oomph, Accelerate, Pysche Up, Heal, Bounce
>25% or more to get a buff
>HatchetMan, Flame Slash, Ice Slash, Whack
>25% or more to get a hit move
>Hocus Pocus, Kamikaze
>less than 15% to get a move that could ruin you

And there's Metal slash that's worthless but at least it doesn't cripple you, or Magic Burst that just plain random but the worst bullshit move, zoom is also safeish to use outside or onstage.

He has good odds, i know i don't know the real % but good moves have high chances of appearing. As soon as you don't see Hocus Pucs or Kamikaze, you just select the move.

I think the only moves that have low % of appearing is Kamikaze and Hocus Pocus and that's pretty fucking good if you ask me.

Yeah, that was around since Melee too. She can also pull Mr. Saturn.

MAD

HOES

What kind of idiot wears blue lipstick.

MAD

Not true, you can use a wedge as a driver. It just won't work. Similarly, you can try and play Piranha Plant. It just won't work.

...anyone notice that the "gamer" posters are all gone?

And on the weekend... very interesting. Just thought I'd point out how paid shillposters don't post on weekends.

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What the hell do you mean? There's still just as many awful posts.

Imagine caring about any of this in a party game for children.

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Ridley feels surprisingly even against Hero, which I did not expect at all. Meanwhile Samus, who I expected to trash Hero, actually gets trashed by Hero himself.

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This is the best result. It will rape competitive play in an entertaining way while retards online will be easy kills while they try to sort out the menu. Like Crutchkers making themselves free as fuck by spamming counter.

>It will rape competitive play
I mean they'll just ban him if he's really that bad

lol

>that much RNG in a fighting game
Nah, fuck this shit.

>b-b-b-but muh party game
The game wasn't a party game until they added DQ-kun

Also I forgot to mention that Corrin buffs make this a 10/10 for me even if everything else gets fucked up. He's a ton of fun to play now.
>Samus
>Him
Blessed, heartwarming ignorance in an age of irony and conceit.

Hero really won't make a dent in competitive play and anyone even around fucking elite smash level would realize this

The fact that you think something being old means its bad makes you even more questionable. Hero is fun though.

smash fun
discord.gg/KdhvjcB

The Zenithian sword and sheild look so bad compared to the other 3 hero's equipment though. I love 4 but that shit is garbage compared to the sword of light.

This
He has a lot of options but they're not always readily available and he has ass frame data so you can punish him super easy

Half the time if you get hit by f-smash you probably deserved it considering the start up on that fucking thing gives you literally every chance to run/block. He doesn't even really have the swordie advantage (at least not to the same degree) since his moves are slower than theirs and also have less overall range (nair feels stubby as fuck).

He's perfectly fine, compfags just can't handle RNG in their party game and want to make it worse for everyone else with nerfs.

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Just brace for a large projectile when he's got the menu open.

I play him which just means I never have to worry about getting shoved off my colors, Solo is based

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Chad Normalfag: "Arusu"
Virgin Normalfag: Eight
Chad Gamer: Eleven
Virgin Gamer: Solo

>compfags just can't handle RNG in their party game
When you have no argument, just pretend there isn't one to be had!

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Erdrick and Eight look the best though

Your taste is influenced by who you are. Others who appreciate strangeness shall have heart for less appealing designs.

Would that be the first time a Smash character has ever been completely banned?

>character with nigh-infinite launch capabilty is also a fucking heavy

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>robbnp
His style has suffered greatly and his shitposting is grating.

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The sword does unfortunately look like a penis.

The "him" was in reference to Hero but I can see how I worded that weirdly.

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What is "Crutchkers"?

No, Meta Knight was banned at the tail-end of Brawl

>just use projectiles against hero bro
>playing belmont, throw cross
>during my windup, hero presses down B twice, doesn't look at the list
>fires a vacuuming 30% projectile that blows through my cross and kills me at 70% before I could even move

If Sonic had any actual kill potential, he'd fucking shit on Hero.

Hero takes a huge risk every time he does that, because there's always the potential it could be Kamikazee. That's why they put that ability in there, to dissuade pressing down B randomly.

An incredibly forced amalgam of "Crutch" and "joker"
I knew that but I deliberately broke my grasp of reality for a moment there so I could live somewhere nicer for a moment.

You know it's true faggot. They don't want to have to learn the RNG. Give it a month or two and everyone will shut the fuck up once they actually learn, guaranteed.

Kamikazee has a literal 0.9% chance of being on the first spot on the menu. It'll hardly be a problem.

>Durr hurr he is uncompetitive
>Durr hurt he has no weaknesses
>What's rushdown
>What do you mean his down b is telegraphed
>What do you mean he has a bad neutral game
>Ban him nao

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If this ere a MTG card you'd just be saying
>lol it dies to removal its not broken :^)

>lol RNG is good get fucked Smashfags :^)

So we're all in agreement that tripping in Brawl was actually good and added depth to the game, right?

Thing is that his "bad" spells aren't bad enough, except for metal slash. Kamikaze can be good depending on stock and % status, timing a punish on metal form isn't easy, and hocus-pocus can just as well give him a game winning buff. If I don't immediately stop my game and respect the menu I'm risking instant death one way or another.

This won't work on them, these are the same people who defended tripping all those years ago.

Just make it so that his opponents gain critical hits when fighting him and nerf the knockback on Magic Burst so it can't auto kill someone on the ledge.

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>why does this party game known for its random party elements have random party elements in it?

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>only character in the game where they can just randomly deal double everything with everything on their moveset

He can only crit on smash attacks.

this guy is brawl tripping in one character, basically sakurai saying fuck you to the competitive side again.

grow up and get a Sony PlayStation 4

I don't want a CensorStation Snore.

I don't have a problem with Smash casualfags. But pulling the
>it's actually more skillful to play with items that were purposefully designed to even the playing field for bad players! I could totally beat Zero, I beat all of my friends after all!
shit, then it just becomes pathetic.

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Well if a pro can't figure out how to beat someone using Gust Bellows, they deserve to lose.

Yes, pros used items once, 15 years ago back when this was a debate worth having. Big fucking surprise, they were too advantageous in the hands of good players and led to degenerate strategies. Believing someone who plays this game 8 hours a day isn't good enough to throw a pokeball at the ground is retarded.

You're a fucking idiot, every character they showed off had a description of what they were capable of with a brief explanation of their character and possible move list if picked and alot of those characters are in the story which, again, they said
>can only afford to animate some of them thanks to the funding so you guys vote on which character gets animated
Stop acting retarded

It's still dumb to taunt people with that many characters but whatever because my favorite was Annie and she ended up being in Indivisible so in the end, fuck you.

You'd be surprised how often this happens with hats that have a strap in the back. All it's gotta do is shift around for a little while and then hair will somehow end up bent upward just to poke out.

It's an intentional part of his design anyway, look at and it has the same thing happen.

I don't know if it's just me but Dedede seems to be fucking hero up bad. None of my other mains can intimidate hero like Dedede does and they just panic and continuously fuck up. Could just be getting shitty heroes.

>It's still dumb to taunt people with that many characters
I see you've never designed anything in your life or planned something that required trimming down in order to make it in time

Hot damn, the modeling team really go all the way huh

That's not an excuse, this is a small indie studio with a limited budget that had a Kickstarter that promised a specific number of things. They knew exactly how much they would be able to do and yet created extra for no apparent reason.

>3. Thwack and Whack have a 0% chance of killing until 100% where they have a 50% chance of killing

You might as well just remove them at that point. I just think they need to be toned down a bit. Keep the random 1 hit, but make it so that it's not realistic until 50%. Or they could just change up his options for 1v1.

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Can I just say that the spell names are a pain in the ass to remember? Bounce sounds like a jumping move and it's a reflector. Zoom sounds like a speed up move and it's a jump move.

Just make sure to always use any move that starts with Ka, in DQ those are always the strongest moves. If you see a Ka select it immediately.

I'll keep it in mind, thanks. I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually, I memorized stuff like Foie, Zonde, and Barta and those make absolutely no sense.

you fight people in super smash bros, so its a fighting game. sorry youre seething about it being the most popular one

By that logic you play a role in Zelda so Zelda is an RPG.

HERO IS SUCH A DISHONEST CHARACTER. NIN-TEN-DOOOOOO. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN ATTEMPTED TO BALANCE MY MAIN AND YET THEY RELEASE THIS SHITTY RNG CHARACTER. 5 DAYS AND I STILL HAVE TO FACE HERO 98% OF THE TIME.

The level of salt Hero has caused among tourneyfags is fucking delicious. Sakurai is based as fuck.

you could but thats not the main focus of the game. the main focus of super smash bros is fighting other characters. its primarily a fighting game.
people are trying to redefine what words mean because they dont like smash, its mind boggling

More like biased as fuck.

How fucking new can you be?
Holy shit, lurk some more, you piece of shit

>hey dude ive never heard of smash bros what kind of game is it?
>a party game
>what the fuck does that mean
>s-sorry its a fighting game
thats you buddy

I guess if you've never played a DQ before, yeah.

Something really neat I've noticed recently is that a majority of the spells have a sort of onomatopoeia theme or it makes sense in sentence

>Projectiles harmlessly BOUNCE off of you
>ZOOMing back to the stage
>Ice KAKRACKLING
>Giving your attacks a little more OOMPH.

Pathetic

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>onomatopoeia theme
Congrats user, you hit the nail on the head.
Some spells in DQ in Japanese were named based on the onomatopoeia, so it carried over to the translation.
Like for example fire spell was named めら (mera) which is basically the sound of burning or some shit.

What about that thing they do in the newer games where all the item descriptions are vaguely alliterative, do they do something like that in Japanese?

>DLC character
>Not being broken
Nintendo needs to make $5 somehow. Smash DLC is really scummy, as it always has been. Reminder that you can't save replays if your opponent is using a DLC stage, DLC character, or DLC Mii outfit

Kill yourself leffen you are fucking trash

only bothered to read the first three panels. normal fighting games hate hazards so much they straight up don't even include them as game features, dunno what you're so mad about

off-model garbage

I haven't played a DQ game since IV, so I don't know that, sorry.

The old version of IV, or? Because I haven't played it but I would figure the DS game does that.

EAT THE FUCKING GUMBO YOU CHINK

youtube.com/watch?v=ABtjAmM218E

Is that the same guy from this?
youtube.com/watch?v=-LyVVpfU6Zo

He’s my new main, I’m having a blast and there is nothing you can do about it

fpbp

On one hand, this analogy is kind of shitty, but, on the other hand, competitive Smash is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. I lost my shit when I saw people arguing that FD shouldn't be a starter because it doesn't have platforms and that Hazards-Off Warioware shouldn't be legal because it makes 3 D-tier characters B-tier at best.

How does Warioware do that?

The fuck are you talking about?
Hero is pretty balanced given that using the menu is a crapshoot and his actual strongest moves are the fully charged versions of his specials which consume a third of his MP bar

Wario Ware's blastzones are way too small. A character like Incineroar can almost kill you off of one grab or side b at very low percents.

Her ears are huge.

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When are they gonna add the Undertaker to ultimate?

just spent 2 hours wrecking Hero niggas with that skin as Link. Git gud

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>hur dur muh competitive niggers

DIE
FAGGOT
DIE

You cunts are a blight on gaming. You need to ruin every fucking damn game with your bullshit. Fuck off die. Not every fucking game needs competitive esports faggotry. Stop trying to compensate for the fact chad gave you a swirlie in high school cause you're a kissless virgin. We don't want normies in our hobby.

FUCK
YOU
FUCK
OFF
DIE

Good, more room for my dick.

this so much

Dark Souls and Call of Duty are fighting games, confirmed

>What's messed up is how much the shit from down b and HP stacks with a stupid thing like Critical Strikes.
He kind of needs that due to almost zero combo game while being combo food himself, and has godawful frame data. He's a heavyweight without the actual weight.

Meanwhile it's 100% ok to have fuckhuge maps like Stadium where you can run circles around Incineroar.

Bad at games

How is that a bad thung? Heavyweights need all the help they can get.

Items are banned because there's no way to determine where the items themselves spawn, so it inevitably leads to campfests where people are more interested in grinding for items than actually fighting the opponent. Hero encourages the exact opposite, you're supposed to face him head on because his entire MO is shitting on campy, defensive playstyles. It's not even remotely comparable.

youtubemultiplier.com/5d45d51b5b965-mfw-scrubs-rage-over-the-hero.php

Mmm yes, feed me your tears over a mid-tier character

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Reminder that Gohan got his shit kicked in by a fat pink guy.

He's top tier, and soon he'll be banned. Fuck off.

>"DADDYYYY THIS NEW CHARACTER IS TOO OP BECAUSE HE HAS UNPREDICTABLE ELEMENTS. BAAAANNNN HIM, NERF HIM SO HE CAN ONLY DO KAMIKAZEE WITH DOWN-B SO I CAN KEEP PRETENDING MY PARTY GAME IS A SERIOUS, COMPETITIVE FIGHTERRRRR."

Smash babies can't adapt, what else is new. Other fighting games have unpredictable characters and hey guess what, nobody cries tears about Teddie's items or Faust in general.

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The "balance" is fine and doesn't matter anyway. You need to practice and not expect wins to be handed to you.

It's part of the same reason they stubbornly have 8 minute best of 3s instead of something reasonable, it's believed in the community that the better player should almost always win, but small maps mean somebody could get a "lucky" kill and win "undeserved". In addition it's a widely held belief in the autistic competitive circles that high execution (lol in Smash) characters should always be stronger, so heavies SHOULD suck, which is why even in mods like project M heavies are garbage.

Unironically get good because he's fucking terrible lmfao

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Shut the ENTIRE fuck up, weeb.

That's cause nobody plays either of those games lmao

>"HE'S NO FAIR NO FAIR NO FAIR, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ADAPT TO SOMETHING UNIQUE, HE SHOULD'VE JUST PLAYED LIKE A FIRE EMBLEM SWORDSMAN SO I COULD BITCH ABOUT ANIME SWORDSMEN WAAAAAAA I WANT A BAN THIS IS A SERIOUS FIGHTING GAME AFTER YOU TURN EVERYTHING IN THE GAME OFF STOP LAUGHING"

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Yes.... it's over...

Trunks is Eleven and Yamcha is Solo

Look at the alt colors. DBZ is Officially Inside Smash.

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But literally none of these are an issue.

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Female version of Solo

No. I'd be bothered if it fit smoothly, making his hair shaped like a penis.

yeah, probably

No one cares retard.

True. My Roy got obliterated by Hero in online.

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Just gonna tell you that none of that shit happens in Main-Line Dragon Quest

*Falcon Slashes you with the Über Falcon Blade at 100 Tension with Oomph*
pshhh.. nothing personnel.. kid

>solo/sofia genderbender doujins still not translated

Gimme a title and I'll get right on that translation.

>Items
>Fun

Items are bullshit. They’re only fun for like a couple matches.

You played with 7 stock?

So...

Soo

Soo.

Sooo.

Robbonp still makes new art?
Where?

Well if you look at the filename you can see the answer is tumblr, obviously.

What you mean?

The art is posted on tumblr.

I'm surprised by how much I enjoy Hero, usually I cannot get into male characters at all. But Hero is pretty good. All men should be like Hero, then maybe I would like them more.

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Bump this thread please guys

Shut up retard.

Bump guys please

You mean DQ has been doing the Alliterative Move names before Glitzy Glow, Sappy Seed, Splishy Splash and Baddy Bad??

>all men should be like hero
What, wield a sword?
That's like half the men in smash, yes.

Smashbabs are so cute. Slightest little thing isn't exactly how it should be and they get sent into a frothing rage. You can practically feel the autism radiating from posts like these.

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No, they should wear cool long jackets instead of boring armor and cape.

The best PM player plays Donkey Kong though

BEST THREAD EVER

Cool

Huh.

Awesome

I feel bad for Robin because they look like a complete bitch next to Hero. Not just from a balance standpoint but from a visual standpoint, Robin gets this teeny little fireball and Hero throws an absolutely monstrous ball of flame that explodes and leaves a pile of fire behind.

Uh?

What are you doing in this site? Considering you are really a woman. You Femanon ...

No, I'm a man. I just hate men. Except for myself, I'm one of the good ones who is smart enough to hate men.

You should only use Isabell , femanon , that's the best character to represent you, you female dog , slut, bitch, hoe

Ah, I shouldn't have bothered typing this out, looks like this guy is psychotic.

This

>Haha items are fun!
>3 matches later
>Wtf faggot stop chain instakilling me with items and let me grab something

They meant real world men should be like Knights, good hearted, educated, powerful, beautiful...

I understand

The only thing I don't like is the crit smash attacks. I rarely ever get hit by a Hero's smash but even so, it seems to be a crit fucking 50% of the time.
As far as the menu goes, that's easy to counter, just shield, jump, interrupt it, or reflect.

He's not broken (has shit aerials in an aerial heavy game) but definitely overtuned and/or wonky owing to the fact that it's literally easier to throw someone offstage, stack buffs and go for a shieldbreaking instakill than actually edgeguard

Items are only fun with local play because you can just give someone a kick in the dick if they're being a faggot with them.

> I cannot get into male characters at all.

This is a straight up weeaboo tranny catchphrase, dis you start transitioning already or are you still at the part where you play these characters because you "identify" with them

Sorry only the chads are canon heroes and allowed in smash.

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Even then it's shortlived no matter what

>Throw pokeball
>They run around avoiding it while you grab more shit to throw at them that they will try to avoid while you grab more shit to throw at them rinse and repeat

>hitting with that slow ass fsmash while having oomph and psyche up active
>easier than edge guarding with flame slash/kaboom/zapple/kazapple/magic burst

>slow ass fsmash

Not like it matters, you cant block it, that alone makes it infinitely easier to land

I dunno if he's "broken" or even top-tier but 0% kills are just kinda gay

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Hero has garbage frame data and is very vulnerable to a diagonal approach.
>frame 18 bAir

Gonna need the artist of that Samus.

and what's reasonable over best of 3s?

Who cares, he's going to be nerfed hard that patch

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The 0% kills aren't even remotely the issue. The chances of him landing a Thwack/Whack on you at 0% and then it killing is so low that it's not even worth mentioning. In fact, there are almost no issues with his Command Selection at all.

The issues are that Critical Hits are fucking absurdly strong with no real skill or counterplay factor involved, and that his neutral special and side specials have absurd fucking kill potential. Why the fuck does max charge side special kill at 50% from centre stage?

*next

The fuck are you talking about, the 0% to kill I've seen was because of critical hits
The one where the guy insta-breaks the shield because of one and then gets one again on a snake
Somebody post it for me

>play through his classic mode
>kill Robin at 30% with a random Thwack
I love it. I want this or invincibility from Hocus Pocus to happen in a major tournament.

>it's a fighting game
>if you turn off half the features, restrict stages and set arbitrary rules then it almost plays like a normal fighting game!
Take a shower.

Zelda fucks him up so hard because of Farore it’s not even funny. Literally any time he opens that menu, it’s a free fucking hit, and Farore can kill at like 120% too.

Hero is just the new scrub killer, he’s honestly not that good.

>I AM SILLY!

Littererly just remove random crits

>We, the scrubs who can't adapt to a character that suffers from middling frame data and susceptibility to rushdown won't be recovering from this.
Ftfy.

There’s nothing wrong with RNG in competitive play. It’s just a matter of how you incorporate that shit. For example, Faust in Guilty Gear is a good example of RNG done right. Hero’s RNG buffs balance well with the fact that they require Mana and everything about him is essentially ass. There’s nothing about him that would require moderation or a ban, because he’s not an overly dominating character. Just a gimmicky one.

His UpB is pure ass. If you’re not getting back on from below, you’re gonna get edgeguarded very easily. Plus the fact that it comsumes mana means that if you don’t have at least 10 mp, you’re fucked if offstage.

The Smash “competitive community” is a fucking joke that doesn’t understand game balance. Other fighting games have experimented with RNG before, it’s not inherently bad, Hero is fine, fuck off.

Honestly. He ain't that good. His frame data isn't the best and the recovery can be botched when MP is gone. Plus Peach and Daisy can grab a Bob-Omb in an RNG fashion and use aerials on the ground with the exclusive glide mechanic, yet they are "top-tier" and "balance" and "viable for play." Remember when people thought the Belmonts were "OP" because of the items they had, or K.Rool with the super armour and every bury move. Bunch of e-Celeb bullshit if you ask me.

this picture aged extremely well

And Bob Ombs.

I mean, there's not really any time when you should be trying to get back onto the stage from above.

sounds like you have shitty friends
it's generally accepted in my group to throw a item away after you've used it for a period of time
also you gotta keep the spawn rate on low and disable some of the bullshit items so they don't disrupt the core gameplay too much

I feel Hero does really poorly against lower tier characters, but is simultaneously Tier Whore medicine. Truly the most based of characters.

I remember as a kid, when Brawl came out, me, my brother and my sister use to take turns getting the Smash Ball, but only if we can get it.

If you have a teleport, there’s plenty. UpB’s that can only approach from bottom are super predictable.

Well there are like two characters with a teleport and that's it, so that's a pretty limited alternative you've got there.

How about you adapt and learn the character instead of crying like a little bitch?

>*kills you from 0 percent* JUST ADAPT BRO MY CHARACTER IS FAIR THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BROKEN CHARACTER IN THIS GAME THAT'S WHY NERFS DON'T EXIST

How about you hit him while he's navigating the menus instead of crying like a little bitch?

Keep crying bitch retard

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What kind of garbage Hero needs to "navigate" the menus?

Suht up

There’s more than two. I count at least 5 just off the top of my head. And characters like Peach and Daisy have reasons to approach horizontally, as do Fox, Falco, and Wolf.

If you lose to a Hero player, you are a shitter, end of story

5 out of like a 70 character roster, my point stands that there are very few teleporters and even counting characters with decent horizontal recovery doesn't add much to the number.

If you get killed at 0 you deserved it for being a retard

I've seen it, the Snake is a fucking tard for letting the Hero get both Oomph and Psyche Up and for then blocking a smash attack. It's equivalent to a Game and Watch Bucket being filled. If you let that happen to you, you're a fucking idiot. Any amount of pressure on the Hero would have stopped him getting both boosts.

git gud

Ah yes, the video with that Snake that was playing like an absolute retard and just letting the Hero do whatever he wanted

I mean the guy dealt a fuckton of damage to Hero while taking none himself, at some point you have to admit that Hero is excessive if you cannot make even a single mistake against him.

>Hero actually punishing you with Thwack and Whack is not only far more telegraphed than judge, but fairly rare for him to even get a chance to do it and has a huge chance to fail.
>THE GAME IS NOW BROKEN FOREVER
I have a friend who has been seething nonstop since release, it really isn't a big deal that there's a few weird variables, the character is balanced around them.

They created them *to ask people what they wanted* you fucking retard.

Anyone got the rosalina and isabelle source?

Good fucking grief you are really dedicated to getting that last word aren't you? Coming back 9 fucking hours later hoping that I wouldn't be here to respond to you. Well sorry but I'm still here, just like I was every other time you tried to do this. But you know what, this is getting pathetic. I'm about to go to bed anyway. Take your pitiful little win. You want it so much? It's yours. I don't care anymore. This is too much autism for my tastes.

Nope. But ganon’s eyebrows being connected to his hair bugs me.

At least 1/3 benefits from approaching in other ways than just from the bottom. How bad are you at this game?

>Doesn't jump over the attack.
>Doesn't reflect it.
>Doesn't absorb it.
Bitch he's slow.

Name all of them. Hell, name a couple of them.

>Anyone who calls me a moron is a samefag.
I just jumped in to point out you're a moron. I'd tell you to calm the fuck down, but you were sperging out at user about how a poll for what character people want in a fighting game is "teasing," so I think that's beyond a reasonable request.

He's not broken, but he's certainly the most unfun character to play against. I hate the fact that Hero can just kill you at 20 for no fucking reason, also his neutral and side specials are pretty stupid.

DLC that you don't have. And that was only put in this update, so I'm willing to bet that was Square's doing.

it's a shitty party game for kids why u care oh so much