So....she was just evil?
So....she was just evil?
No, the only thing she ever defends you on is going light sided against the council. Her point was that you should do the right thing but not always trust that the Jedi are the deciders of what's right and what's not.
But she will berate you for doing the right thing if it's of no benefit to you.
No, she was neutral... She wanted to destroy the force because the force was the cause of 90% of the conflicts in star wars, Any time Jedi or Sith fight, millions die, she knew this and wanted to destroy the force to cut off everyone who was obsessed with it.
I kinda hoped in TLJ when Kylo said, let the past die that they actually would follow up on getting rid of titles like Sith and Jedi, but instead he just gets nae naed by Rey at the end, showing Disney is incompetent at writing a good story.
But she gains influence if you stand your ground. Sometimes. It's complicated.
Worse, she's autistic. Ignore her. Do what you want.
Literally all she wanted was to leave behind something in her legacy that did some real good.
>Revan was a fucking baller but not really because of her
>All her other students were failures and evil retards
>She herself was a failure
All she wanted was to protect you from the bullshit of the Jedi and Sith, because she couldn't save anything else, even herself.
It's realistic, and its a shame we'll never get KOTOR 3 to finish the Exile and Revan's story.
she was literally this
But apathy is worse than death
This definition of a centrist was concocted by extremists in the hopes of dissuading their target audience from believing there can be more than two opinions on a subject. More important, it doesn't apply to Kreia because she has very focused and defined goals: Teach (You) to be self-sufficient and get the Jedi and Sith off your back for good.
It's a shame we will never get a kotor 3
It's a shame we will never get a battlefront 3
It's a shame we will never get a Republic Commando 2 (or book 6)
It's a shame we will never get a Starfighter 3
It's a shame we will never get a Republic at War (real)
It's a shame we will never get Jedi Knight 4
It's a shame we will never get Rogue Squadron 4
It's a shame we will never get 1313
It's sort of a shame we will never get a TFU 3
It's a shame we will never get good star wars games ever again.
But isn't the Force something of a life source in Star Wars? Wouldn't destroying it kill plenty of people?
>evil
>Neutral
>fag response
>missed the point pretentious answer
>omega faggot comment
She hates the force.
She wants to get rid of the force, and removing the force means killing everything in the galaxy.
Play the fucking game before commenting, please.
Why does she hate the Force so much?
Is it reasonable to follow someone that is throwing a massive bitchfit because she fears she's being controlled by the Force?
>Kreia doesn't old serious convictions or beliefs
"Apathy is death" is even her most quoted line for fuck's sake.
You're as retarded as her.
>her most quoted line
>her
Play the game.
Fucking cope.
I'll live my life, FAGGOT.
She hates the force but she's never trying to kill it you fucking loser. She knows it is impossible. She's fixated on you because you're the answer she was looking for: you can't kill the Force, but you can survive without it.
>cope
>Literally a template response that admits the other person is correct
Why would you post this
I think the quote is "I hate the force; I hate how it seems to have a will".
Basically what this nigga said, except she's not neutral, she is an enemy of the force and thus hates the jedi and the sith.
Literally no. It's a response to an angry faggot that can't handle a response without crying, and the only thing to do is either ignore or call out what it actually is.
There is no argument to begin with, the other person was not correct.
Here endeth the lesson.
If you are still seeing things as good or evil you missed the point of her as a character and the game as a whole, there is more nuance to their motivations than simply being good or evil.
Im calling you a stupid retard for being wrong. You are the one that's incorrect.
She's a rule 63 self-insert of Chris Avellone who have be known to express libertarian values.
>start of the game
>you've cut yourself off from the Force for a number of years, successfully surviving without it
>Don't do that, Exile, you have to relearn your Force powers
>But depending on the Force is bad
>Also, we have to get rid of the Force, but keep learning it
You were exactly what she wanted at the beginning, but she ruined everything.
Play the game you fucking retard
All you have to do is tell her you'll consider what she said and it'll make her happy no matter how many times you make light side choices.
>no u
Wow.
You have no argument, stop being a fag.
Go home, Avellone. Your game sucks.
Kreia is a bit complicated, I think she's accidentally genius becaus of the game being incomplete
She isn't convinced about her own goals which and partially hopes that the exile stops her because the exile actually gave her hope for a future with the force. Even if it was a future she knew she shouldn't be a part of.
>she's never trying to kill it
Literally everything she wants, yes indeed.
Play the game faggot.
The force is pretty retarded if you ask me. It only cares about itself, wanting to be in balance at all times. It does not care HOW just that it HAS to be. The galaxy is always at war due to this shit, suffering and death. Go too far either way and you get fucked up in some fashion. Sometimes you dont even realize it until its too late.
was the crafting intended to be broken as shit?
literally the only hard segments in the game are the nar shadaa escape without exile, atton vs. sion if you don't build atton right, and lightsabers floating if you don't occasionally build and upgrade
>Person that has never played the game making a statement that is blatantly false to anyone that has played the game and telling somebody else to play the game.
What the fuck is this nonsense.
I'm LMAOing at you and everyone on this shitty thread. The game came out 15 years ago, stop whining about your interpretations on imaginary people.
>Buh-buh you're INCORRECT
Every single one of you are retarded faggots who live in the past.
That's the only thing she isn't.
Kreia is basically the exact opposite of the "evil character does evil things because of how evil he is". She thought she was right, and in many ways she was.
No one here has actually played KotOR, they're merely pretending for oldfag points. They might have watched that one video about Kreia, if anything.
Well she is/was a sith
Why are you here?
You're literally the biggest faggot in this thread.
>I'm laughing my fucking ass off -ing
She a bitter old woman whose beliefs have been trampled by both sith and jedi.
I might be remembering incorrectly, but wasn't Avellone not all that happy with Kreia?
What a pleb filter of a game
there are even such obvious levels to the filtering so all tiers of retards are easy to expose. On the bottom tiers you have the brainlets who go"muh i wish i could just throw her out of the ebon hawk!!1". Then theres the dicklets who think Kreia "wants you to be neutral/ gray". Then finally you get the idiots who are close to understanding but they instead go "Kreia just wants you to be a le machiavellian manipulator"
Kreia is a manipulator, her ideal jedi is pretty much ROTJ Luke
LMAOing at a nigger who decided to reply to everyone for some retarded reason
>waving your dick this hard only to be so wrong
It's like I'm in an EVA thread.
Alright, just bought KOTOR and having problems with my char just becoming frozen whenever melee combat is over
Any mods that can fix this issue?
Yes. Some people still haven't caught on that Kreia never wanted to destroy it. She hates it, but understands that it's an integral part of life that very few would survive without. She admits as much in a cutscene with the Disciple
>"Do you think I seek the death of all living things? There is no victory in such things. I do not want to win our war like this, little Jedi. When I win, I want it to be because I was right, my teachings true."
Your status as a dead spot in the Force makes you the perfect vessel to carry her teachings into the future, which is why she throws every enemy possible into your path to make you stronger, culminating with her as the final test and helping you get over Malachor V once and for all.
why is esfelectra such a faggot?
Because she thinks of herself as your teacher so she questions everything you do. If you defend yourself or admit that you'll consider what she said, you don't lose influence.
Kreia never says this line.
>So....she was just evil?
No. Unless you think destroying the Sith is evil.
>Kreia never says this line.
Vision Quest Kreia does.
That's not Kreia.
it’s something she would say
When is genocide ever good?
Read and actually understand what the Sith Code says and understand that Kreia is one the purest examples of true Sith philosophy while everyone else is a bunch of edgy larpers who just think being a Sith means kicking puppies and twirling their space-mustaches.
Space Jesus is the canon exile
Shame the exile pussied out and the order became what it is in the PT. Took until Luke showed up in the old canon to get it right.
When it's against white people.
Seems like some people forget two very important things about the character.
First of all, for most of the game she's dealing in "hows", not "whys". That making waves thing is a tool she's trying to teach you. Without really passing judgement.
Then there's her not being completely honest 100% of the time, to put it politely. "Lie by omission" should be her middle name. The only place you can most probably trust her at Trayus Core but Malachor and thus the Academy suffered the worst from cut content so there can be mostly rampant speculation about her "whys".
>one the purest examples
Except where she stops dead right after Strength. Power? The entirety of the game is her pointing out how often power is hollow or hides a deadly flaw which you discover too late. Victory? The historical backdrop is pretty much a chain of victories going from bittersweet to Pyrrhic to completely hollow and false (Kun, Quel-Droma, Revan, Malak, Mandalorian Wars, the Civil War, the Triumvirate, yours, hers).
What is with all these kotor 2 threads lately?
>it’s something she would say
It really isn't.
Kreia would have you not involve yourself in matters unless you directly get something out of it.
Probably sales on gabenscam.