So Playstation All Stars 2 Anybody?

Do PSAS fans even like PS games?

It was a fun game and I liked it but the roster choices were fucking stupid. If they gave us an actual good roster it would be hype as fuck.

No make it like a real fighting game instead

Name one (1) flaw in their roster

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Pick a differeny genre

No

Honestly a Tekken/Soul hybrid would be great

Why when there's much more you can do with some of the characters?

Donte, Heavenly Sword Bitch, The black dude from Starhawk, Zeus, Big Daddy, none of these people are what come to mind when I think "Playstation All-Stars".

And red Cole.

I'll be excited for it if those NIGGERS confirm best boy for launch. He was pretty much done as DLC for first anyway.

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This game is absolutely fucking horrible, played it a few times on ps3 and ps vita but got bored after 15 minutes of play. The people in this thread are just pretending to like it, for some reason.

>Donte,Heavenly Sword,Starhawk
Understandable
>Zeus,Big Daddy,Evil Cole
Wrong

God of War Zeus is one of the more famous Zeuses in games

No doubt, but in a game missing so many classic PS characters to begin with why are we giving slots to characters like that? Where's Crash, Spyro, Cloud, Dart, Abe, Claude, etc? There's so many more worthy candidates.

I want an Xbox smash game. Fuck Killer Instinct, that trash doesn't count.

I'm mad they took Isaac.

Copy smash main appeal of %knockouts and don't mash up stages of 2 different series.

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>make a fighting game about playstation IPs
>doesnt include gabe from syphon filter when SONY OWNS IT
No i dont want a sequel, they can burn for all i care

Because it was made as a throwaway game with shit budget. Maybe 2 would have a chance now that smash is now Titan-sized

sony can't make memorable, iconic characters, what's the point of this

This is what i like to call the "golden points of crossovers".
>Addition
"we need Crash and Spyro in this game"
>Representation
"we need to make Spike look like Spike and not a fucking goblin and probably showcase Ape Escape's music"
"if we're going to add multiple reps per series, Lammy from UJL might be a better choice than another Cole"
>Material
"this random jrpg protag may as well have more moveset potential than normal looking guy with guns"
>Creativity
"we could go nuts with how Parappa plays because his universe is silly but we must make the moveset fit the series' personality"
>Risks
"despite driving his truck most of the time, Sweet Tooth will spent more time often outside his truck to fit along with other characters"
>Base
"why is it a Smash clone when most of these characters are from 3D based games?"
"what about an art style that makes them fit and not clash with each other?"
>Variety
"if these characters fit that rule Valve used for TF2 where they can still be recognized as silhouettes, that's good news"

I'd love for this to happen, OP, but Sony has proven time and time again that they never cared about PSAS nor are they caring for their legacy IPs, now it's all Nu-ghty Dog and its merry band of copycats.
I'm still convinced we're getting the Medievil remake because Shawn Layden has suckes Druckmann's dick to get a favor.

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1. Jak (Jak and Daxter)
2. Baron Praxis (Jak and Daxter)
3. Ashelin Praxis (Jak and Daxter)
4. Ratchet (Ratchet and Clank)
5. Dr. Nefarious (Ratchet and Clank)
6. Captain Qwark (Ratchet and Clank)
7. Sly Cooper (Sly Cooper)
8. Carmelita Fox (Sly Cooper)
9. Neyla (Sly Cooper)
10. Spike (Ape Escape)
11. Specter (Ape Escape)
12. Parappa (Parappa the Rapper)
13. Master Onion (Parappa the Rapper)
14. Sir Daniel (Medievil)
15. Nathan Drake (Uncharted)
16. Chloe Frazer (Uncharted)
17. Kratos (God of War)
18. Sackboy (Little Big Planet)
19. Nariko (Heavenly Sword)
20. Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal)
21. Doll Face (Twisted Metal)
22. Colonel Radec (Killzone)
23. Lucas Kellen (Killzone)
24. Maya "Echo" Visari (Killzone)
25. Cole MacGrath + Evil Cole (Infamous)
26. Delsin Rowe + Evil Delsin (Infamous)
27. Toro (Doko Demo Issyo)
28. Kat (Gravity Rush)
29. Raven (Gravity Rush)
30. Captain Blasto (Blasto)
31. Emmett Graves (Starhawk)
32. Princess Plump (Fat Princess)
33. Tigershark (Invizimals)
34. Alundra (The Adventures of Alundra)
35. Arc (Arc the Lad)
36. The Good Hunter (Bloodborne)
37. Toan (Dark Cloud)
38. The Slayer of Demons (Demon's Souls)
39. Aloy (Horizon Zero Dawn)
40...

(cont.)
40. Robbit (Jumping Flash)
41. Knack (Knack)
42. Vahn (Legend of Legaia)
43. Kutaro (Puppeteer)
44. Chimera Hybrid (Resistance)
45. Nathan Hale (Resistance)
46. Jaster Rogue (Rogue Galaxy)
47. Wander (Shadow of the Colossus)
48. Iota / Atoi (Tearaway)
49. Joel (The Last of Us)
50. Ellie (The Last of Us)
51. Dart Feld (The Legend of Dragoon)
52. Rose (The Legend of Dragoon)
53. Tomba (Tomba)
54. Lammy (Um Jammer Lammy)
55. Rudy (Wild Arms)
56. Jack (Wild Arms)
57. Cecilia (Wild Arms)
58. Heihachi (Tekken)
59. Isaac Clarke (Dead Space)
60. Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
61. Dr. Neo Cortex (Crash Bandicoot)
62. Dante (Devil May Cry)*classic
63. Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy)
64. Old Snake (Metal Gear)
65. Raiden (Metal Gear)
66. Spyro the Dragon (Spyro)
67. Ripto (Spyro)
68. Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
69. Alucard (Castlevania)
70. Raziel (Blood Omen/Soul Reaver)

Could also run on pc based on roster alone

>Chief
>Sgt Johnson in ODST gear sans helmet
>I'd prefer Marcus but if it ever happens it'll be nu-Fenix cause marketing
>Dom f
>Titanfall pilot
>Ashen one
>Frank West, not from DR4 but DR1
>Lilith from burgerlands
>lol Steve
>some blops nibba
>Sunset Overdrive protag

add someone I guess

>59. Isaac Clarke (Dead Space)
REEEEEEEEEEEE

Klonoa?

71. Patapon Tribe (Patapon)

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The 3 Fable heroes

The Hero of Oakvale (Chicken Chaser)
The Hero of Bowerlake (Sparrow)
The Hero of Brightwall (The Prince)

each could utilize the different weapons and magic for their own games

Kiryu when?

see people keep saying Patapon or Kulche. but I honestly see them more as a hazard or a summon.
imagine a rip off of a assist trophy and you summon a patapon tribe to either follow you around or stand at one end of the stage and throw spears

?

>no blinx
I guess after they dropped the trademark no one wants to remember one of their few actual ips.

What about a Patapon with an identity like the Hero/Uberhero

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>The Hero of Brightwall (The Prince / Princess)*
excuse me

Yeah that would work. I was more thinking of using their rythm mechanics but this works aswell

What if Spikat was canon?

What would his moveset be?

>3d arena fighters
Always trash

He has quite a bit of possible moves in the wiki
patapon.fandom.com/wiki/Hero

>he hasn't played Jedi Academy

It was rough around the edges but I liked it. If they actually put Smash Bros levels of money into it it could be great. But they've said before they won't do another one. Best you can hope for is a crossover in a different genre.

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I think Oakvale and Jack of blades would be enough rep from that franchise

Thanks for reminding me about that little nigga. He'd be dope

This game is bound to fail if it's going to be announced at evo. It's not a fighting game, it doesn't have the same popularity as smash and if smash reveals a new DLC character nobody is going to give a fuck about this.

>It's not a fighting game
um... yes it is?

Stage mash ups were kino and gave stages some much needed flavor considering how dully colored most of them were

No and neither is smash.

Gonna post my roster here, if you guys don't mind, feel free to rate it
PS1:
>Spike
>Parappa
>Sir Daniel
>Sweet Tooth
>Toro
>Heihachi
>Lammy
>Specter
>Dart
>Robbit
>Crash
>Abe

PS2:
>Kratos (Based on 2018 game)
>Zeus
>Sly
>Jak & Daxter
>Ratchet & Clank
>Dante (Based on DMCV)
>Dr. Nefarious
>Carmelita Fox
>Rau Utu
>Ari & Stan
>Yu Narukami
>Sora

PS3:
>Sackboy
>Cole McGrath
>Nariko
>Nathan Drake
>Fat Princess
>Emmet Graves
>Colonel Radec
>Raiden
>Joel & Ellie
>Kutaro
>Neptune
>Oliver

PS4:
>Aloy
>Delsin Rowe
>Knack
>Astrobot
>The Hunter
>Sir Galahad
>Deacon
>Sam Bridges
>Jin Sakai
>Dreams Rep
>Destiny Rep
>Fish (Nuclear Throne)

PSP + Vita:
>Uberhero
>Tigershark
>Lord Badman
>Kat
>Raven
>Iota

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ya, ok kid

>no soul sacrifice / FW rep for vita
Fuck you and fuck your shittaste.

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except they absolutely are

what about these guys?

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Give the game to anyone that actually likes the characters

Also, no meddling

MAKE

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What about an art style?

Sony's IPs are so diverse in artstyle that having them all unified into one looks weird. I think having the characters look like they came right out of their game is the best option

Depends on what style you pick.
Or what characters would even fit in a video game crossover.

Sony just announced a mk, bfv, and other game tourney series at evo so it's probably all they got knowing sony. dream is over

they can announce a state of play like nintendo did last year with their direct and then reveal it there, maybe give a tease as well at evo

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>The only game that's a fighting game
>A game nobody cares about
>and one of the biggest failures of 2018

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well a detailed and realistic style wouldnt fit well for characters like Parappa or Sir Daniel and a Cartoony or stylized style wouldnt fit well for characters like Kratos or Nathan Drake.

Drake and Kratos could go for something that resembles a comic book.
Like, making them a little bit more colorfull and cel shaded, but still keep proportions, so they're not whacky or anything.

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Can't wait for Crash Bandicoot in Smash

There's zero incentive to make a sequel. Nintendo clearly has a stranglehold on this concept. Only someone like Sakurai can pull off something like Smash.

>Lord Badman

Based. Can't believe he's already a 10 year old character. I would add leonard and garl from the PS3 era

Definitely a bright cartoony style like pic related. Then design the characters around it.

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Soulless

twitter.com/andmish/status/1155165701243625473

No, keep everyone in their own artstyle. Something like that would look more like a mobage than an actual proper title.

who else here /spidey/ mains in PSAS2?

*Snipes you*

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What about a style that tries to make them fit while preserving some of their original aspects with some balance?

Feel free to pitch it but their original styles is a very safe bet imo

*webs you from half the screen away*

Give it to a Japanese dev.

Can we get a pastebin with all requested reps and a strawpoll compiling then so we can see what people want the most?

Have 1v1 set to the default

Have a set schedule of balance patches and updates

Pander towards a competitive scene and less for casuals

Keep the gameplay focus relatively the same

Supers no longer kill, instead deal damage relative to their power level

Characters also have multiple options for the different levels of supers, which can be customized

Blocking can break after so many hits, also introduce minor poke damage

All characters get 2 movesets that will be "variations" like in Mortal Kombat

Ring Outs don't kill, but deal significant damage

Characters now have a life bar and super meter

(debatable) Characters have attacks or moves that will have cool downs

Release free DLC Character packs which include 1 character, 1 skin and 1 stage every couple of months after release

Keep stage design direction, stage clashes should be more mixed

What would anyone else add?

more character interactions?

Remove top half but keep block breaks

oh yeah,
I think having characters interact and make comments/mock each other at the start and end of a match would be good, again like Mortal Kombat, I think MK11's interactions are really good

but also keeping the rivals mechanic should be explored more and heavily geared towards for an adventure mode

WHERE MY DAN BROS AT?!

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Dan main here

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what sony should learn from nintendo is how to get people drawing porn of their characters

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Nothing wrong with Zeus.
It's the big vilain of one of (if not the) Sony's biggest franchise

>(debatable) Characters have attacks or moves that will have cool downs
What the fuck?

Just keep it to a MVC-esque unique quote in their battle entrance, don't make it into a full cutscene like in Injustice/MK

What? Zeus is the Microsoft guest character.

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Make them have interactions during battle aswell when doing specific moves to each other

was just a thought to help balance against spamming attacks which could keep characters like Kat or Raiden in check and not be so overpowered and dominating.

Sony 2D crossover fighter roster.
Sony
>Kratos
>Nariko
>Sweet Tooth
>Nathan Drake
Square Enix
>Sephiroth
>Lara Croft
>2B
Konami
>Pyramid Head
>Alucard
>Raiden
Capcom
>Leon Kennedy
>Jill Valentine
>Morrigan
Namco
>Nightmare
>Yoshimitsu
>Heihachi
Tecmo
>Ryu Hayabusa
>Kasumi
Sega
>Akira
>Yukuza rep

It's called recovery frames. The fuck do you want cooldowns for?

Huge fan of a few Playstation IPs (Parappa, Medievil, Twisted Metal) but no. Fuck another Playstation All-Stars game. Sony shouldn't try to be Nintendo.

>The fuck do you want cooldowns for?
again, like I said, to help keep dominating or overpowered characters in check.
they dont have to be long cool downs at all, like 1/2 a second or 1 second. And every character would get one.

Again I'm not gunning for this to be a mechanic, it was just a thought I had

why just 4 or so characters?

cause he is an idiot

Why not? The reaction against all star was insane, since street fighter 2 an entire genre of games were created inspired on it.
But sony tries to do his own twist on smash and people seethed like nothing I've ever seen before.

It's just more games why would that make anyone upset.

sony executed their crossover game badly with a lot of shit done wrong

Yes they did. The point of a sequel is to improve on the original.

and how would sony if all things improve it, when they also fuck up some rereleases of their games, ps mini and web.archive.org/web/20141216144436/http://ps20.software.eu.playstation.com/

By learning from their mistakes

you really think they'll do that?

bro you're fucking retarded.

read my post again
how will you trust sony to make a better playstation crossover when they screw up any attempt at celebrating their own history?

dont bother arguing with him
people like him are just brick walls

Because a developer is not the same as the marketing team you stupid ape.

Sony wanted to beat Nintendo with a quarter of the budget and with a no name studio.

I wouldn't mind an actual Smash clone from Sony, but they would have to try. Which Sony has shown they clearly don't understand what made Smash a success.

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sony might actually be retarded enough to do this

PS All-Stars would crash and burn like it did the first time because Sony doesn't understand what makes smash fun

I don't think Sony is the one actually developing the announced games, I just think that they are going to be the ones attaching their names to the front ends of the trailers so that they sell better on PS4

My money is on a new GuiltyGear, but I'm praying for Persona 5 Arena/Ultimax

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>Sony wanted to beat Nintendo with a quarter of the budget and with a no name studio.
I'm pretty sure Sony didn't care much about the game from the start, it was more an idea presented to them and they said "yeah sure what ever"
thats why foon after the IP was taken from the dev team all support was stopped

Yes I'm not arguing the end product was trash, my point is that people were against it since the announcement. Almost like they wanted the game to fail from the start, which is just the dumbest mentality you can have if you actually enjoy playing games.

sony is the perfect example of a company that literally hates their own games when they don't appeal to their target demographic
and i'm the retard for bringing examples to back up my arguement?

cause thats why MediEvil is getting a second remake

Smash is also meant to be a tribute for Nintendo history.
If the main priority of a PlayStation All Stars game was to celebrate PlayStation history, we wouldn't be here comparing it to Smash or complaining about the lack of Crash or Snake.
Sony doesn't have any hopes for their own exclusive titles that don't let you play as a sad dad walking through a forest.
They cut off LittleBigPlanet's servers in Japan, even.

>I'm pretty sure Sony didn't care much about the game from the start

That's the problem. I also really doubt they would care now.

No Crash, No Cloud, No RE rep, no Snake (nobody likes Raiden), No Spyro.

one without the permission of the original devs that even used someone's fanart in a teaser
you know, stolen fanart like in that 20th anniversary mural or this tweet
twitter.com/PlayStationFR/status/1128608461573345282
this french fuck even calls ape escape "monkey island"

You are retarded for thinking that a game they made with barely any budget or care reflects the entire past and future of the company.
You are retarded for saying shit like this
>sony is the perfect example of a company that literally hates their own games
It's a company you dumb donkey that's not how any of this works.

All those soulless characters

>I also really doubt they would care now.
I think after the game breaking even, the fans the game made, and the pleading for a sequel since it's release. Sony might actually look into a sequel, especially after 7 years, and after they have more IP's to add into the game

Either outright rip off Smash Bros this time or don't bother

>original devs
which were merged with another studio before the first remake
and sure its a bit shitty to not say anything to the original people behind the game, but it was a in house 1st party IP, Sony can do what ever they want with it

get ready for another dissapointment when sony removes parappa or ape escape for being too obscure in a crossover game, while giving their slots for a call of duty character

But people liked parappa

most feedback of the game is just "needs crash and spyro"
there were plenty of other problems people overlooked

yeah thats why they werent included in the original

"Most" is not "All"

Hold up, you actually have something of a good idea here.

Most arena fighters are only trash due to the fact that the developers don't have the time or budget to tighten the controls or make the game less jank. An arena fighter by a AAA developer could potentially break that mold. Smash makes sense for Nintendo because it's style makes it seem like a 2D platformer as a fighting game. Making PSAS2 an arena fighter would in turn make sense for Sony since their games started off at the beginning of the 3D era of platformers and shooters.

Playstation All-Stars shouldn't have tried copying Smash as a 2D platform fighter, it should have always striven to be a 3D arena fighter.

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Are they going to put the right characters in this time?
Maybe not balance it like a fat kid on a seesaw?

As long as they give it to a more competent studio and not a random indie dev, a sequel could potentially be better than the original. I still wish I could've seen the original roster in action, seemed like there was potential there...

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No fucking Rasputin from Psychonauts

Just give a MvC style game and we good

Where dem Fat Princess mains at?