FACT: JRPG's are the best

I want Jade to step on me.

All JRPGS are the same shit, can't think of a more creatively bankrupt genere

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why are nee-chans consistently the best female characters

she a ho

She has to peg me first and drain my balls.

because you're a jizzmind

HNNNGGGG

FACT: You're a cumbraín

Yes oneesama please peg me more. Ah ah can I cum now?

Hoes mad

Hoes mad

boring as fuck

She's literally Bulma with black hair

>game gives you an A and B choice
>if you pick B it loops over and over until you pick A

Why do Japanese games do this so often? Why even put up the veil of choice like that?

"""Japanese humor"""

Gamer.

they are pretty nice

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>can't think of a more creatively bankrupt genere
WRPG

I wish Japs would make a shorter RPG (20-40 hours) that has strong replay value. While I enjoyed the grand adventure of DQXI, few JRPGs keep me engaged for 100+ hours. I would love most Persona games if they didn't drag things out so much.

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But most jrpgs are 20-40 hours..

I mean modern JRPGs

Based Lufiaposter

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Can't wait to buy the definitive version of Jade's game.

I wish they were 20 hours with engaging gameplay and good pacing instead of 100 hours of turn-based combat and slow meandering dialogue. I don't have time to invest 100 hours in games anymore.

>jrpgs are only turnbased
You haven't played a jrpg in years have you

Most of them are turn-based.

Or have turn based elements

Veronica wins again!

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>Wanting Boogie's Used Goods

You cucks are pathetic

C

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>jrpgs were literally created to streamline and simplify wrpgs for mass market appeal
>wrpgs are somehow more creatively bankrupt

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Why aren't there any Dragon Quest games where you get the really cool girl as your first party member? They always hold her off for twenty hours. Is it just because every other party member would be fucking boring by comparison?
Also when are we getting a new DQ Monsters?

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I don't get the appeal of Dragon Quest. It's artstyle is just that shitty Dragon Ball artstyle.

Depends who you mean specifically by the "really cool girl" of each game.

Most people like Toriyama's art. Of course some people don't, which is natural. Some people don't like Jack Kirby's art, doesn't mean that most people don't.

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>1986 vs today
wRPGfags live in the past

Except Toriyama's art is bad and looks disgusting in 3D.

Ultima and Wizardry sucked.

based weeb

Okay Wizardry wasn't that bad but Ultima was and still is dogshit.

>1986 vs today
Oh, you want a more recent comparison?

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I mean if you just don't wanna have a discussion that's fine too, but a lot of people like it. I think that it has looked pretty bad in 3D but 11 is actually the first example I've seen of a manga's style perfectly translating to a simulated space game.

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Lets compared xenoblade 2 with D:OS. XC2 does the same thing as the OS's world/battle transition except it's not turn based, environmental hazards are in play, blade combos (which create seals to block off tributes/moves) and driver combos (incapacitate/burst damage) combine to create fusion combos which increase the effects of both combo paths and apply bonuses, such as extra party gauge, increased special build up, etc. Then you have other things to consider; positioning, pouch items, type of enemy, elemental weakness/resistance are some of those. On top of this, the game has a canceling mechanic that requires proper timing to boost specials and arts. Behind the scenes, characters are completely customizable with different blades that change stats, classes, abilities, passives, and certain ones have special prioritizes which change up how the game work (e.g. corsette brings a new dynamic to potion collection which increases fusion combo damage, an extra incentive to give up positioning to collect potions rather than just health). I haven't even gone over additional mechanics like just range or affinity, the latter which intertwines narrative elements into gameplay, something further emphasized with the DLC in terms of blade partnership vs ownership.

I challenge any wRPG fag to find a wRPG with a more involved and satisfying combat system

>wRPGfags will never know the feeling of stacking combos and timing a level 3's invulnerability frames to negate a party devastating AoE into a chain attack with 4 orbs build up into a full burst
maybe if wRPGs had good gameplay they wouldn't all be dead aside from shit eating normies who buy TES

BONUS: no wRPG has come close to the exploration of xenoblade X. No wRPG has come close to the story of xenogears, the closest is planescape torment which had it's world copy-pasted from DnD instead of creating a rich one like gears/saga as well as having a largly irrelevant cast (only party member that matters is morte).

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Arguing about whether Western games or Japanese games are better is literally the dumbest shit
Japan and the United States are each other's best friends and they've had a cultural exchange like no other in human history, it really isn't surprising that they've both borrowed elements of each other's video games regardless of who borrowed more or what borrowing is more important

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Made for monster cock

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>Lets compared xenoblade 2 with D:OS.
pffft what the fuck kind of sentence is that. I ain't even reading the rest of your shit.

So did they have sex?

no argument, it's no wonder the "best modern wRPG" couldn't outsell xenoblade 2

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it's funny how the xeno series immediately shuts down wRPGkun in every single thread

Anything outside of final fantasy and persona shuts him down.

I want Jade to bully me

At least in that scene there is a consequence for picking no instead of just "lol just pick yes"

>Lets compared xenoblade 2 with D:OS.
The image is comparing turn-based games with each other, not comparing a turn-based game with a single-player MMO where you can't even control your party.

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>posted gay shit
>...
>posting anything with a woman
>"gamer"
Are we being raided by seething trannies or what?

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Only reason I haven't played it yet.

Shoulda had it in vanilla.

Boring turn based shit, select attack to win, for 60 hours
>just kill me

>Comparing these completely different games trying to do different things is fine!
>But don't compare THESE completely different games trying to do different things! It shuts me down
WRPGfans are cringe as usual I see. Post that Jagged Alliance vs Suikoden image for the millionth time or maybe Persona vs VTMB (yes they unironically do this)

I can't play "true" JRPGs, the story isn't good enough to keep me occupied through the hours of bland grind.

The only JRPGs I've ever beaten are RPGmaker porn stuff.

Yes.

>hours of bland grind.
Play better jrpgs

he brings in mechanics that exist in divinity but not persona 5 yet ignores the other way around, why should I do the same? I also opened the forum for him to find me a wRPG (any) with better combat than XC2 or better exploration than XCX yet he has never been able to reproduce anything. Really says a lot about the wRPG genre, doesn't it?

There aren't any. The grind is bland in every single one, because the gameplay is fundamentally dull.

By scp discord

No need to lie, I play jrpgs for the boobs

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Play my game user

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Japanese games cure depression
Western games cause depression

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Optimal JRPG is 30 hours with multiple routes and endings.

>Why aren't there any Dragon Quest games where you get the really cool girl as your first party member
DQ V and DQ VIII

Yes in my doujins

I think the most vital difference is in regards to world interaction. Even the oldest WRPGs had stuff like marriage, buying property, all that kind of optional stuff that helps you feel more immersed.

JRPGs don't tend to have that, and it's to their detriment. Sadly now WRPGs are going the same route.

>ANOTHER cumskull thread

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Back to your steam group

>based gamerposter
>seething wojak designer

Atta boy.

Thinking about getting XI. Does it have good waifus?

U

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based

Wait for the Switch version so you can choose your preferred waifu.

wRPGs are awful

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she's absolutely mesmerizing...

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Who the fuck keeps making these god-awful comparisons?

Damn, Dragon Quest looks like THAT?

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which ones? This is the first one I've made to combat the wRPGfag spam

Super late on the bandwagon, but does it matter which xenoblade i start with?

>Jade's design is fantastic and her role in story could've been really good
>shares some really good moments with MC
>fades into obscurity right after joining and is barely even utilized in terms of story

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You both made terrible comparisons filled with blatant lies.
Why can't you guys just accept people like different things?

you can play X whenever. It is in your best interest to play 1 before 2 but not necessary

could you point out the lies in my image? I'm pretty sure they don't exist

>offmodel doujin
I hate this so much I can't even fucking describe it. I LIKE THE SIZE OF HER TITS. I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE DIFFERENT JUST BECAUSE IT'S PORN. FUCKING STOP THIS STUPID FUCKING BULLSHIT.

Thanks. I think i'll go in order then starting on the wii

>Part 3 exists

no, these are Yea Forums users

also there's this, even if it might not be jade...

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>XC2 well received
It’s only liked for the waifus though. Everyone with good taste in JRPGs dislikes it.

consider dolphin emulator with HD packs (turn off the hideous "HD" faces though)

>cannot die due to the fact that you can use essentially limitless items
Why would you evn bring this up when you are immortal? You can't die to begin with.

>magic consists of nukes that don't take any strategy to use

>what is friendly fire (a feature conspicuously absent from the xenoblade games)
And nukes only take up a small portion of Torment's magic list.

>you are pigenonhold into becoming a mage
You aren't unless you are an idiot. The most important stat in the game is wisdom, which isn't tied to any class.
Besides, you can freely switch classes at any time, so you never have to commit to a specific class

>can find only 2 additional party members
All party members in Torment are optional. Unlike Xenoblade, they can permanently die or leave the party depending on your actions.

>theme of identity only explored through TNO
So Nordom, the automaton who has gained a will of his own, is not exploring the theme of identity? Or Fall-From-Grace, the chaste succubus who went against her own nature? All the party members are usd to explore the theme of identity, as well as various NPCs. There is also Ravel, who reincarnates herself in different beings across the planes because she hated herself.

>despite having numerous gods, they are rarely present

>game wants to tell a personal story and deliberately leaves out mention of the gods
>NOOO SHIT STORY I WANT MY EPIC GOD-KILLING CHOSEN ONE PLOT

>music rarely fits the narrative

>unique musical themes for each party members as well as various npcs
>consistent use of leitmotif
>different combat tracks for differenet areas

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Sports games, with a few exceptions (usually the ones that aren't with real human players as units).

If you bothered to read beyond the first line, you would know that xenoblade 2 succeeds in every area "one of the best wRPGs" fails at. Also funny considering Annah was whored out and a literal succubus can join your party in PT

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>want to get her new gear and up her defense
>can't sacrifice seeing her in the bunny suit

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Name a few, if you're so brave

I've played a ton of JRPGs, but I just can't understand the appeal.They feel like they want to be movies, with barebones gameplay that you only have to button mash through to proceed. It just never seems to change. Whether I'm bored out of my mind from Neptunia and it's ironic humor, Final Fantasy and its attempts to constantly reinvent the wheel, Xenoblade's 500 billion hours of cutscenes, Persona just wanting to be a high school simulator, and so on. I genuinely think that the Mario RPGs are the peak of the genre because who cares about the story in a mario game? The gameplay is what's important. And because it doesn't have typical waifus or deep storytelling, they have to grab your attention with solid gameplay. Yes, they might be a little easy, but that's nothing that a few romhacks won't fix.

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>has to brag about xenoblade having basic features like elemental weaknesses or the fact that you can GASP position your characters differently

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>God I hate games you can just button mash through
>But Mario RPG/Chrono Trigger though! Now that's a real RPG
Every time lol

>Why would you evn bring this up when you are immortal? You can't die to begin with.
gameplay narrative dissonance, why have combat if failure is essentially impossible? You should also start a new character each time you fall in battle in PT but that doesn't happen

>what is friendly fire (a feature conspicuously absent from the xenoblade games)
something not present of a good portion of PT's spells, most notoriously cloudkill
>And nukes only take up a small portion of Torment's magic list.
which you won't waste your spell slots with because it's more efficient to fill it with nukes

>The most important stat in the game is wisdom, which isn't tied to any class
and int/chr right after it, the other stats may as well not exist. If you choose to invest in them instead of these three, the narrative becomes worse
>you can freely switch classes at any time
limited to TNO only compared to XC2's entire party

>All party members in Torment are optional. Unlike Xenoblade, they can permanently die or leave the party depending on your actions.
that's great, there are 10 additional blades who are also optional found in via exploration.

>So Nordom, the automaton who has gained a will of his own, is not exploring the theme of identity?
no because he isn't part of the narrative in the slightest. If you want to include him, you can include poppi in the xenoblade side as well
>Or Fall-From-Grace, the chaste succubus who went against her own nature
this is not related more to fate than identity, and isn't actually explored in game since the change has already occurred prior to meeting her
>All the party members are usd to explore the theme of identity, as well as various NPCs
ah, yes. The pyromaniac certainly explores the theme well

>NOOO SHIT STORY I WANT MY EPIC GOD-KILLING CHOSEN ONE PLOT
you don't need to kill gods for them to be involved. You know God is a good guy in xenoblade 2 right?

(continued)

With S no more of this problem

>couldn't outsell xenoblade 2
You do know OS2 sold almost 5 million copies?
Dumb frogposter.

>unique musical themes for each party members as well as various npcs
if by each you mean all 2, and only in their intial meeting places
>consistent use of leitmotif
leitmotif's can be used incorrectly, xenoblade 2 has a heavy usage of them as well especially Mitsuda's tracks
>different combat tracks for different areas
2 (maybe 3? Don't remember if final area had a special theme). Xenoblade 2 had 4 regular battle themes, several boss battle themes, and even battle music

>Mario RPG
>maybe 10 minutes of cutscenes, no pretentious cinematic storytelling like "dude religion is evil" or "dude politics lmao"
>no shoehorned romances taking up half the game
>gameplay rewards timing and paying attention during battle, instead of just queueing up commands from a text box
>really fun minigames like booster hill, minecarts, even casinos
>less characters = more focus on each character

Take Mario and Luigi for example. I only ever have to worry about leveling them and giving them gear. So there's room for more gear that's better balanced. Also, each character can have more fun and unique moves and attacks. The first game was stellar with this, heavily rewarding good timing with higher damage. And then you unlock advanced bros moves, and the game just got even better.

this

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>I challenge any wRPG fag to find a wRPG with a more involved and satisfying combat system
>mmo combat
>satisfying
LMAO

>I only ever have to worry about leveling them and giving them gear
Yeah.

source? I have trouble believing that considering it gets almost 0 talk ( 5 million would make it one of the highest selling wRPGs of all time). It sold 700k in the first month, xenoblade 2 did 1.06 million (source wikipedia for former, nintendo IR for latter)

>right side has a bunch of fucking memes in it
y-yeah it must be a really difficult and extreme fight huh

And what's wrong with that? Is Mario too videogamey? Does it need cutscenes everywhere and exposition?

>source?
steamspy.com/app/435150
Also with console versions, 5 million copies are easily reached.

jotting down a list of mechanics isn't bragging, I didn't even cover them all really. I'm missing stuff like just range or invincibility frame abuse for heavy AoEs

No. It can have plenty of button mashing

Try button mashing during a bros attack then. *chuckles* See where that gets you.

steam spy has not been reliable since steam changed its policy regarding it, 2m-5m should be a clear indication isn't a retarded metric. Games sell through most of their sales in the first month with very rare exceptions (OS2 not being one of them, it's not GTAV or mario). No official numbers exist that state it sold more. I was not aware OS2 was available on consoles however (why the fuck would you play a cRPG on a console) and I will consider it a possibility that it did outsell xenoblade 2. Even then, it's a hollow victory considering it would have a 200m+ install base compared to XC2's (now at 1.8 million sales) with an install base of

I use regular attacks and dodge all the simple attacks thrown my way since the game was made for five year olds. To add insult to injury I equip the Mush Badge and break the game with a single item. I just find it funny the people who make grand sweeping statements about RPGs are always fans of the babiest and simplest ones for "some reason" and then complain about how complex the rest of the genre is while simultaneously claiming they're all easy based off their favorites so as not to lose face.

>(OS2 not being one of them
The game is always top seller when it's on sale user.
Even with -40% it's always on number 1 spot.

sorry, but you didn't name a wRPG with better combat. It doesn't exist

BASED Ysfriend

Amalur

>I use regular attacks and dodge all the simple attacks thrown my way since the game was made for five year olds.
That's more actions necessary than your typical JRPG, so it's still leading the pack.

some of the clunkiest combat systems in an aRPG. Good game despite the poor combat

>comparing two of the greatest RPGs ever made to fucking Xenoblade 2
Is this what blasphemy looks like? This shit is legit disrespectful.

>poor game despite the good combat
ftfy, that's the only thing amalur has going for, otherwise it same mmo design trash like xenoblade

do you have an argument? It doesn't seem like it, guess I'm right

I found it comfy to explore

>FACT: JRPG's are the best
Would be if Gothic 2 didn't exist.

She looks like she fucks BLACK men.

>gameplay narrative dissonance
What dissonance? If you want to talk about dissonance, why are you ignoring XB2's flaws in that regard. We are talking about a game where you can fast-travel even if you are stuck into prison. Care to explain that one? Or how about the fact that if you defeat bosses in combat, they end up defeating you in the following cutscene anyway.

>something not present of a good portion of PT's spells, most notoriously cloudkill
Okay, now I've know you've never played the game. Cloudkill most certainly has friendly fire, as do all AoE spells in Torment that deal damage.

>which you won't waste your spell slots with because it's more efficient to fill it with nukes
Except you can't do that. Spell slots are tied to specific levels, and most don't have nukes. E.g. you can't fill level 1 spell slots with nukes because none of the level 1 spells are nukes.

Furthermore, nukes tend to be the least useful spells in D&D. Buffing and debuffing spells are much more useful.

>that's great, there are 10 additional blades who are also optional found in via exploration.
So? I didn't brag about how many party members there are. You were the one who were lying about how many party members there are in Torment. I was just correcting you.

>no because he isn't part of the narrative in the slightest.
youtube.com/watch?v=7JFnHFsBsjw

>and isn't actually explored in game since the change has already occurred prior to meeting her
It's a change she's still struggling with, and it's explored in a variety of conversations

>ah, yes. The pyromaniac certainly explores the theme well
He does, yes. It's an example of how passions can overtake your identity.

>you don't need to kill gods for them to be involved. You know God is a good guy in xenoblade 2 right?
That doesn't change the fact that Xenoblade 2 is a dime a dozen shonen story while Planescape: Torment is the most well-written video game story of all time.

>Are we being raided by seething trannies or what?
Yes, check the other threads as well. These fags even use the same parameters to post.

I wish DQ combat was better. its so zzzzzz. Rather just watch a movie.

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I love making sweeping meme generalizations. Really raises the quality of the board.

Well?

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After you've played the best JRPG, JRPG's just aren't that interesting anymore.

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No, fuck off. Anyone with a brain can instantly tell comparing a fucking by the numbers waifu shounen game to artistic labours of love with some of the best writing and gameplay respectively in the genre is dishonest at best and offensive at worst.

It's alright because this meaningless buzzword raid will eventually end while posts like OPs have been around since the beginning of Yea Forums and will continue to be her35

Great combat system especially in the sequel, shit everything else including the girls.

I'm a catperson

no, im not going to bow down to some anime bitch. fuck you

I am acknowledging dissonance, I didn't pit it against planescape until you brought up immortality. Obviously, dying and having to restart the game is a terrible decision (especially when trias can instant kill you with cloudkill, great design). Likewise, constantly locking fast travel in a game largely focusing on exploration is shit. In the case of bosses, I would take a fun boss fight over just getting my ass kicked in a cutscene, many fights you get your ass kicked in after you don't even drain the boss health fully

>Cloudkill
in my entire play-through of PT, not a single ally died to cloudkill despite spamming it to get through the shit combat. This tells me one of two things, 1. there isn't friendly fire for a large majority of spells or 2. it's greatly reduced in potency and largely irrelevant when you can pause to heal

>Furthermore, nukes tend to be the least useful spells in D&D
no comment on D7D as a whole, but nukes are certainly the best option in PT

>You were the one who were lying about how many party members there are in Torment. I was just correcting you.
party member scouting was in the context of exploration, which is limited to vhailor and nordem alone. You would have to be retarded to miss out on the other party members

>Nordem
ok, sure. Add him for the final line alone, add poppi (another robot) to my side as well for the scene in land of morytha

>It's a change she's still struggling with
"struggle" isn't the word I'd use when she's set up a brothel and denies all advances (except from TNO because of attraction from torment)

>He does, yes. It's an example of how passions can overtake your identity.
you can apply this to almost every single character. hell, add Bana to the xenoblade side if you add ignis

>That doesn't change the fact that Xenoblade 2 is a dime a dozen shonen story while Planescape: Torment is the most well-written video game story of all time.
not going to address this, you ignored the point entirely.

>if by each you mean all 2
Over a dozen, actually.

>and only in their intial meeting places
They play whenever you talk to the characters.

>Xenoblade 2 had 4 regular battle themes
Planescape: Torment has 5 regular battle themes.

The fact that a 20 hour wrpg where combat almost never occurs has more regular battle themes than a 100+ hour jrpg that is all about combat is...troubling to say the least.

And Planescape: Torment is actually on the lower side compared to other wrpgs. Deus Ex for example is also a 20-hour wrpg, one where combat is entirely avoidable, and it has more than 20 different regular battle themes.

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Would get on my knees and bark in a heart beat

not an argument

>waifu
like this one ?

>labours of love
a labor of love wouldn't copy paste existing material without changing it

Anyone else like 8 more than 11 still?

real schizo hours huh

>game gives you an A and B choice
>picking B ends the dialog
>game won't let progress unless you pick A

Why do western games do this so often?

>a labor of love wouldn't copy paste existing material without changing it
All the characters in Torment are original creations, as are most of the locations. And they didn't copy-paste anything, by that logic a game that takes place in New York is just copy-pasting real-life.

>Why do western games do this so often?
Name 10 examples.

you're right, I was thinking of the main plot alone and not the character interaction. I retract my character statement

>PT has 5 regular battle themes
I forgot the other two, in any case 5 regular battle themes, no boss themes, no event battle themes puts it at a deficit.

>deus ex
arrangement of field music

JRPGfags play games to have fun
WRPGfags play games to posture online for ecred. It's as simple as that. Notice how WRPG-kun spends all his time complaining about JRPGs instead of actually playing his beloved WRPGs

>they didn't copy-paste anything
blatant lie

>new york
>comparing a fantasy world to a real life location

To be fair I’d be doing that too if my favourite games were as fucking dry and boring as WRPGs.

>All the characters in Torment are original creations
so annah, the character with less clothing and official whored out art than the characters in XC2, who was not pulled from existing content, is not waifu shit? interesting

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>blatant lie
Post the proof then. It shouldn't be hard. Just torrent the planescape tabletop material and compare it to what's in the game.

>arrangement of field music
False. the combat tracks in Deus Ex are completely distinct from the field tracks.

What exactly is 'Puff Puff'?

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>post the proof then
your statement is "they didn't copy-paste anything", so all I need to do is state something (one thing) they did

lady of pain

Holy shit XC2fags are almost as embarrassing as their game.

>including the girls.
add in me in Rumblr right now faggot

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Making posts like this is the equivalent of mumbling at your feet. What do you think nobody can see you?

he's too afraid to actually debate, he knows he can't. It's a childish reaction

Reverse motorboating

Pathfinder King Maker, Deus Ex MD and KC:D where the only WPRGs in the like past decade that actually liked. Now Xenoblade 2 blows em all out of the water in every department besides maybe plot, and "actual" roleplaying since jrpgs (the good ones) have always been about fun and simple yet deep combat while wrpgs (the good ones) are more about simulating a world and you "being" the character

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>Now Xenoblade 2 blows em all out of the water in every department
LMAO

>Now Xenoblade 2 blows em all out of the water in every department besides maybe plot, and "actual" roleplaying
Christ you JRPG cucks are deluded

Fuck off ESL

>Yeah I like this game and-
>FUCK YOU ESL KEK FUCK YOU FUCK YOU WAIFU TRASH YOUR GAME IS TRASH CHRIST DELUSIONAL KEK LMAO.
You guys ever notice how overly aggressive WRPGfags are? It's kind of weird to get so worked up over toys isn't it?

The problem with most JRPGs is that all the encounters are just easy dumb bs until you get to the boss. Most encounters can be mashed through, with the exception of some status attacks. I admit I have mainly only tried mainstream JRPGs but I would love to play a game in which every encounter could be deadly, or even meaningful

>worked up over toys isn't it?
Says the Xenotrash 2 faggot.
kek

yeah, all without arguments. Sad really how they have to invade jRPG threads since no one else cares about their games

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>TRASH FAGGOT KEK
Again, these are toys you're getting flustered about. Planescape is only at the level of a bottom of the barrel genre fiction novel, not even close to approaching even the simplest of high school literature in depth or complexity. Why get so worked up?

t. gamer

Anyone praising pure weeb tripe like XC2 like that deserves to be ridiculed

>It's kind of weird to get so worked up over toys isn't it?

Says the person OBSESSED enough to go to all the effort to make this despite clearly not having even played at least one of the games in question

8 is still better than 11.its kinda sad. fucking SE man. 1 step forward 3 back. (i liked 11 still.)

Baste negro

Provide arguments first

I only made that list after images like were spammed countless times in jRPG threads. I don't think it's unreasonable to make a single image for threads of a genre I like, compared to the myriad of shit this guy has made to enter threads of a genre he hates. The guy you're responding to isn't me by the way.

>Everybody who upsets me is the same person
This is a sign of an underdeveloped mind. No wonder you like WRPGs and shun books
>WEEB TRIPE. TOYS ARE SRS BZNESS
You must be 18 years or older to browse this website.
What does that have to do with my post pointing out the unnecessarily hostile nature of WRPGfags? Are you okay?

Dark Souls is the best JRPG

Damn this really struck some wrpgfags nerves. Good work

That's understandable, but XB2 is still weebtrash while Planescape is one of the most unique and imaginative things I've ever experienced in all of gaming.

Dark Souls is a WRPG

>one of the most unique and imaginative things I've ever experienced in all of gaming.
Alrest is a hundred times more unique and imaginative than porting over D&D and inserting some new characters. If you want an actual imaginative wRPG, games like fallout are more out there than PT

This. WRPGfags in general should play more tabletop. That does require friends though which might be a sticking point.

>Alrest is a hundred times more unique and imaginative
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Is this weeb for real?

you can call XC2 weebtrash, but don't imply the world isn't unique or imaginative. You make yourself look like an idiot, especially when planescape's world isn't even PT's

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hmm I'm detecting a hissy fit going on here. I'll just let you be to yourself so you can calm down.

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>that pic
Sup Hans, sucked some Muhammed cock today?

I can think of a few
FPS
Fighting
Fantasy Sports
Survival "Horror" and "Horror" (aka jump scares the genre)
2D platformers

Are you physically capable of doing anything but mentioning FF and Persona strawman's? There are so many fucking JRPGs out there you must actually have two extra chromosomes to think that FF and a spin off branch of a JRPG series accounts for all of them.

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Not it didn't first one sold only 1 million and second one probably less than than.

>1 million and second one probably less than than.
Based retard

no he cannot, I have called him out with the xenoblade series and he has never been able to produce an argument against me. I'm sure you can do the same with series like Ys

>the xenoblade series
LMAO HANS

stop stealing games Muhammad

Is that picture meant to prove anything? It looks like anything an 8 year old could come up with scribble.
>WHAT IF WE LOVED ON GIANT CREATURES AND EVERYTHING WAS OVER DESIGNED ANIME BULLSHIT
Fucking embarrassing

They're not even good criticisms of Persona either is the worst part.
>WOAH THIS GAME FOCUSING ON HIGH SCHOOL KIDS IS DIFFERENT THAN THIS GAME ABOUT VAMPIRES WHAT THE FUCK????

You are the one that is retard. Last official sales numbers for OS are that it sold 500k by September 2014.

Based retard

calm down, it's just a video game

>no argument

>Hans can't defend his xenotrash
kek

yes, you have yet to present one

>Different games focus on different things
Woah dude, you've liked, totally enlightened me, I appreciate you posting that shitty image you proudly took 30 minutes to make. It really changed my way of viewing games!

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>Not it didn't first one sold only 1 million and second one probably less than than.

wccftech.com/divinity-original-sin-2-85m-revenue-2017/

>Divinity: Original Sin 2 Generated $85M in Revenue Last Year According To SuperData Research

Despite coming out in late 2017, having zero marketing and only coming out on PC (console parts only happened later), it was still one of the best-selling games of 2017.

Notice how there isn't a single jrpg included in that list, despite a bunch of them coming out in 2017 and having way more marketing.

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>waaa the game only has 60 hours of gameplay
Fuck off.

>Are you physically capable of doing anything but mentioning FF and Persona strawman's? There are so many fucking JRPGs out there you must actually have two extra chromosomes to think that FF and a spin off branch of a JRPG series accounts for all of them.

Yeah, not all jrpgs use menu-based systems. I mean, recently we had jrpgs like DQ11 and Octopath which are totally different.

Oh wait...

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VN is not gameplay.

Who lit the fuse on Xfags tampon today?

He's literally been waiting for four hours for someone to respond. Why would you give him attention.

>replay value
Nah

I don't get it. What is this collage supposed to indicate?

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$85m divided by 60 (average price of the editions of OS2) is roughly 1.4 million in sales. Persona 5 was over 2 million in 2017 while DQXI was over 4 million, clearly something isn't lining up or they don't have japanese values

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This is what XC2fags are praising? Looks like complete weeb dogshit

>Xfags
It's just Xeno2 faggots, you never hear anything about X1 and XCX people because they don't need to defend those good games.
Also Xeno2 faggots are only switch users, that system doesn't have any good jrpgs.

Oh no not menu based systems! The horror!

I used XC2 over XCX as a mercy, do you really want to compare shit world designs of wRPGs with planet Mira? Everything I said about XC2 applies to XC1 except the depiction of god

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Octopath and DQ11 share very few common branches like random encounters and the general idea of EXP but if you can't see the raw number of difference between the two that just proves you can do nothing but shitpost about strawmen that help prove your little arguments right. WRPGs have plenty of similarities but I'm not dumb enough to say their all the same, a few common traits don't mean they are the same game you absolute dumbass.

>Persona 5 was over 2 million in 2017
And despite this, Atlus is still not making profits.

correct, they are faggots who try to milk their materials and they all fail. I didn't even like P5 very much. That's besides the point though

Persona 5 is actually at 2,7 millions and that is on only one relevant platform, Divinity is on 3 relevant platforms.

It happens if you only make one game a decade

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>Atlus is still not making profits.

And how would you know that?

Cope

Not best, but very good.
Pros:
>Story is usually pretty good
>Super long games 80+ hours (When I was a poor kid growing up, this meant the world to me)
>Not afraid to tone switch or go into strange taboo topics/symbolism
>Immersion is intense and you will have feels
>Physical copies usually retain good resale value. no clue why.
CONS
>Grindy
>Can hit weird difficulty spikes and Does shit job explaining anything
>Those chances it takes with story telling and tone shift can not pay off and be cringey and gay

JRPGs have their own little place in many peoples hearts. Western RPGs are pretty good but they are seriously night and day from each other.

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>And how would you know that?

>Atlus Reports Net Loss of 904 Million Yen for Fiscal Year Ended March 2019

>Atlus reported a net loss of 686 million yen for Fiscal Year Ended March 2018, and net loss of 570 million for Fiscal Year Ended March 2017.

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That's not how fishnets work?

This shit is meant to be unqiue and imaginative? I can barely see anything from the terrible graphics and I can still notice it is just generic JRPG world

Source?

that's what these fags get for no SMTV. P5's characters are all shit aside from yosuke, so the side material sells like shit

personacentral.com/atlus-financial-fiscal-year-2019/

The loss is from an ongoing repayment and isn't due to any problems with game sales and marketing.
>inb4 cope seethe twitter buzzword

repayment for what? weren't they bought out by sega?

It is due to the amortization of business rights with repayments taking place every fiscal period

Not them, but considering P5 took over 5 years to make with a large team, I imagine the sales weren’t quite enough.

>The loss is from an ongoing repayment
An ongoing repayment they have to make because Atlus is so incompetent that

>a simple turn-based rpg with virtually no interactivity or world simulation had a bigger team size and a longer development time than sprawling triple-a open-world rpgs

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Hard Mode + Level Limit was a lot of fun even if a few areas were capped really low like the desert boss

Well you would be incorrect. Atlus’ balance sheet indicates an equity ratio of 90.5% and a current ratio of 592.0%, indicating a high level of financial soundness. You can literally look up their balance sheet in the article you posted.

Oh. Keep in mind that's in thousands of yen too.

Why does them getting bought out and having to amortize business rights mean they're incompetent? Are you okay? Did you just want to post your epic image?

Except having actually difficult fights at every random encounter would make people drop the game within the first hour. There's nothing fun about having to constantly buff yourself for several turns and then debuff your enemy just to deal with them, not to mention all the grinding for money just to keep up assuming you can't heal from save points or something.

Oh wise sage of the pussy, enlighten us! How do stockings work?!

>all those repeating names
why you have to be so misleading?

At least post best girl

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Well this is the same guy who's either willfully pretending net income>net worth or he's so stupid he actually believes that.

If she's wearing just fishnets there's no material between the links. Most girls will just wear tights underneath them if needs be.

Early game EO games are a matter of life and death.

DUDE PORN LMAO

>misleading
The comparison is actually limited to only core staff. If you include the full staff, P5 would look even worse by comparison, since it has like a billion people credited for making those anime cutscenes.

And most of P5's staff names are included in paragraphs with no line breaks. If you redid the credits to have the same format, P5's would be even longer

>all those repeating names
Care to point them out?

>Dude if I time travel into the past before she was impregnated by monsters it's like it like she's a virgin again and totally pure!
>Only problem is that future is now my past and I totally remember when she was a monster's breeding sow
>And if we consider multiple timelines I just blinked out of the universe where she was a monster cocksleave into one where she wasn't so in the universe I left she's still probably fucking monsters on the reg
>But hey at least in this one timeline she's pure, except for the fact when we have Guru unlock her hidden potential it unlocks her succubus form she got from fucking monsters in the other timeline making me question if I actually changed anything

>Zoomers can't even follow turn based mechanics anymore
Pitiful

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spoken like a true semen brain

>most girls
Jesus christ....

It's a patterned stocking.

>Le woman who doesn't take shit from anyone japanese and everyone fears her for some unknown reason trope
Isn't there an option to put this bitch in her place?

>Pros
>Story is usually pretty good
>posting Fire Emblem
lol

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>Japan and the United States are each other's best friends and they've had a cultural exchange like no other in human history
That's right, name another country nuked by the US
Exactly, no one

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But what if I only like good games?

DQ VIII or XI to start

JRPGs already have insane replay value. It's almost always way more fun to replay a game than to play a new one.