Why are fighting games dying?

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>cum.brains seething
Get over your addiction user, your life will only get better.

My life will become so good that I spend my weekends having a mental breakdown over the fact that others are enjoying games with sex appeal in them?

Ahh I get it jizzbrains are slaves and america is all about freedom I get it now.
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No, your life will improve when you don't obsess over fictional pictures and can have sex irl and also enjoy actually real good games.
You cum,brain.

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People don't like to put in the effort to get better at video games.

>dying
Tekken, MK and Smash are still selling great. Animeshit is selling better than it ever has in the past. Or do you mean that Street Fighter is dying?

Literally Street Fighter's fault. Everyone memes Smash Bros. isn't a fighting game, but for SF being a fighting game, it's a bitch of a fighting game. Combos, hit confirms, and inputs are unnecessarily complicated, and that is what the normie crowd assumes most fighting games are. As far as "neutral" goes, it's slow ass molasses and restrictive. How can anyone get hype from two players shimmying for 1 (ONE) hit into super/ex. And the pressure/mix-up is equally dumb. Players are literally POKING in throw range (with the way the system is set up) that's it.

If only anime fighting games where the supposed norm, fighting games wouldn't be dying. The burden is on Capcom and they're doing shit.

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Combos killed fighting games.

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haha look at him say it again! basde!

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Getting good at fighters was probably the most rewarding video game experience I've ever had. I remember thinking I could never do certain combos or even IAD consistently, but after playing them for several years and practicing every now and then, I've found a whole new level of joy.

You can enjoy them to if only you would try.

I got MK11 as my first fighting game in 20 years. It's repetitive as fuck. Ultra repetitive. I learned my combos and just repeat repeat repeat. And the same 10000000000000000 killing blow or whatever the fuck its called animations make it even more repetitive.

is this the new epic /r9k/ maymay?

>Trolls looking for lazy dopamine posting this of all things.

Casuals are not into 1v1, all the most popular games you can either rely on a team or are BR.

It's actually a facebook christians meme, believe it or not.

Why is the gamer meme being pushed so hard now? Who is the driving force behind this new psyop?

Oversaturation.

We're in the era of quantity over quantity. Developers are pumping out new fighting games every year instead of putting a lot of time and effort into one fighting game with a lot of content and depth.

I find old fighting games more fun. Samsho2, 3rd strike and alpha 2, soul calibur 2 and 4, etc. I picked up DBFZ last week hoping I'd get into it but it's kind of boring.
I'm not a game designer so I can't explain why, that's just how I feel.

gamer

Fuck off is it really? Thats hilarious

But 4 was way more unforgiving to casuals with combos and hit confirms. 5 is the easiest the series has ever been and it suffered for it.

Barely any fighting games come out, user

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Team based fighting games have been done before and are very fun. Developers are stupid for not making it available in their recent games. (DBFZ has it but with shitty netplay)

LOOK HE POSTED IT AGAIN

That's a pretty naughty image, user.

They require significant investment to get good at and there are too many of them to choose between now so none of them have adequate playerbases except for the big ones so no one wants to get good at them which results in a self-perpetuating cycle where only the biggest games can survive in the genre.

Who is this girl

Explain.

>Why are fighting games dying?
They have never been more popular than right now.

It unironically might be /pol/, they've had 'porn is degenerate' threads since forever and now they've come up with a snappy buzzword to use for it.
And now it's been added to the wordfilters.

They're doing relatively well right now, I'd say.

Jack-O. Yes, that's really her name.

Because they went full retard easy on 5. If they just stopped to think about what things to make easier to heighten the gameplay instead of making it easy for the sake of it, we wouldn't be watching SF players with dead eyes playing a game they don't like.

>add microtransactions up the ass
>lock out characters

Japs forgot how to make them.

Don't worry, though, westerners are smashing records and picking up the nips slack!

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discord raid probably

>Gulty Gear
>Blazblue
>BBTAG
>Under-Night In-Birth
>Dragon Ball Fighters Z
>Mortal Kombat
>Dead or Alive
>Fighting EX Layer
>Soul Caliber
>Samurai Showdown
And that's just within the last 2 years or so user. If I get even older with this it can easily be a 30+ fighter game list in the last 5 years. Fighters in general are just blowing up ATM, but it's also causing stagnation, and in turn many people just play for the looks as they get stomped on and never improve, so thanks to youtube you don't even need to pay the game for that, just load up videos to watch your character in action.

this guy's wife

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Most of them are breaking records in EVO entrants outside of SFV

>Community is too autistic to be accepting of newer players.
>Most fighting games, including the biggest names like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat, have been turning into DLC or Micro-transaction farms for developers.
>Newer fighting games not linked to an existing fighting game franchise have a very difficult time ever getting exposure, unless they partner up with some already existing franchise that people like, such as Dragon Ball.
>Most fighting games have bloated, unbalanced rosters where the same 5-6 fighters are in the top top tier and the rest of the cast is useless trash picks unless you're somehow some kind of idiot savant with the shining who can make your basic bitch Ryu type entry level main characters work in the highest level tournament play.
>Many devs are now obsessed with being "Tournament/EVO approved" in design, which results in franchises like Dead or Alive abandoning their core demographic and design appeal to appease people who previously always considered their games an anime tiddie joke, which results in devs backtracking in the final months of development and the games end up being unappealing for everyone.
>Casuals love story content in games and will drop 60 dollars on a fighting game if it has a storyline they can follow, but the majority of fighting games have these convoluted as fuck storylines that are difficult to follow because devs only tack them on because they feel like thats what they're supposed to do now, which results in dumb shit like Soul Calibur's "Jump around to different points in history and follow these mini stories that always seem to end the same way" or DoA5's "There's a cohesive but mediocre story here somewhere, but it's told in a fucking asinine out of order way that you need to piece together with a a fucking spread sheet to try and plug all the scenes in the right order"
>The western war on titties

You can keep going, really. It's not any one major factor, but a number of smaller ones.

maybe he means combos you cant get out of if the first hit lands, I dont think its much fun just watching your character get hit till you can move again

Well there just glorified single screen tech demos with pretty girls, and once you're done jacking off you kind of lose interest.

I can only imagine that that ping is so vital that no one wants to play since the world wide community is always experiencing significant ping.
It cripples growth.

I think that's bullshit, you need some reprieve from all the mind games. You can use the time getting comboed to evaluate why you got hit in the first place.

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Because apparently everyone who plays them becomes a jizzhead who stops caring about the actual games and just wants to look at porn of the girls all day. Eventually the tits become all they care about.

>All that /m/ stuff in bakcground
KEK

Those people never begin playing, they get introduced to the characters from other people posting images of them, not the game itself.

I second this, online play just isn't viable yet for fighters, and couch co-op requires people to have friends and everyone is an autistic loner now.

Not beginner-friendly, highly competitive, lots of shit-talking and bantz. Basically the antithesis of what constitutes popular multiplayer gaming these days.

2D fighting games are dying, and it's because they are too complex to be fun at a casual level and too simple to be fun at a competitive level. Both to play and watch.

Tekken 7 is where it's at, faggots.

>tap buttons to win with meme guest characters: the series
Tekken a shit, my man.

Mashing buttons: the game

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It's an artificial way to make the game easy for veterans and prohibitively hard for newcomers. Literally just a list of cheat-codes you memorize that allow you to do 5x as much damage as a new player purely because he didn't memorize them yet.

>no idea what im talking about: the posts

They’re not and never have been.

A combo happens when you have made a mistake. They're there to punish you and to reward the other guy.
don't make mistakes and you dont get comboed.
This is why casuals should be ignored when they think they know how to balance videogames.

Too hard for your typical fag to play
No one else to blame for losses if you suck

Ah, yes. Another brainlet crawls from the woodwork to yet again insist, emphatically, that fighting games are dead, dying, or won’t last very long.

Every time, you do this. The same tired arguments, the same lack of understanding to how the genre works, the same poorly defined goalposts. Don’t you ever get tired of speaking out your ass?

I certainly don’t get tired of watching you. So go on ahead, fumble around with your words until you create something that vaguely resembles a cohesive argument. I’ll be here, watching. Lurking. Smugging.

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>You cum, brain

Did you somehow misspell Brian? Weird post either way, my name is user

the trend has been largely toward team games with lower skill requirements. these allow individual players to deflect culpability for their performance (including attributing losses to match-making systems), and to fulfill their own social need to be part of a small collective, but also, from the e-sport side of things, allow for the construction of complex narratives surrounding the drama of players in team games.
you can build rivalries in 1v1 competition and there are still audiences for this, but the dramas in team games are more elaborate.

This. Fighting games are fun as fuck cause there is always new stuff for you to learn
People who say fightans are too hard or that combos aren't fun have no idea of what they're missing out

combos aren't fun
stockholm syndrome doesn't alter the fact

yes they are
the mechanics of fighting games are extremely satisfying, you are just unwilling to invest the effort into them

Phone number should've been a command input

its an outdated 2d genre

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That's why Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter are doing so well, right?

They aren't.

KoF is great, GG is still around with a new game in the works, UNIST is the second coming, Blazblue is still played consistently, the new SamSho is fun, BBTag is alright, Tekken 7 is fantastic, and a new Soul Calibur came out last year.

The only ones tripping up are Capcom. They need to get their shit together. Also, NRS shit is garbage and Killer Instinct should have had that success instead.

Because games like GG/KOF came back with a fury besides KOFs graphics but an actual playable online and retards don't want to play a game that requires learning and more then 2 mechanics.

UNIST is the best game getting traction right now but I guarantee it won't be main stage next year despite Cl-r and it will dwindle far faster then Rev1/2 once the normies realize that "neutral" is just code for confirming off anything into 10 second pressure situations into the same. A game with Seth and Wagner running around is so "SF but anime."

too much of them and they cost way too much with their shitty new design of season garbage
because let's be honest you can't train properly if you don't have every characters
also online is garbage and local are dead almost everywhere
the nearest local is more than 300km from where I live and it's like 10 people

both are just 2d games with minor 3d gimmicks

a true 3d fighting game just looks like dark souls

Isn't this year's EVO the largest yet?

All 3 years of GG were hype and its still the 2nd most entered game at CEOtaku if I remember correctly. Besides Omittos somewhat dominance that isn't even 100% because Nage beat him at EvoJap grand finals the game is so far from solved. I don't even think Xrd is a solvable game. Its so free form and mechanics are so varied in how you can use them.

I still disagree greatly with removing it from main stage and keeping BBCTB which everyone has pretty much wised up to as a retard game. But atleast EvoJapan is wise and still realizes both Rev 2 and KOF14 are top quality games.

Not enough Baikens in them. And what I mean by that is, big tiddy thicc mommy characters.

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>with a new game in the works
Tell me more

Seriously, fuck BB. No one fucking likes this franchise except retarded waifufags.

Baiken's redesign fucking sucks

Every game but Capcom shit is selling very well for what it is. Even small spin offs like SNK heroines do well enough to please SNK. MK sells 10 million+ easy, DBFZ has sold 4 million and so had Tekken 7. This is the best Tekken has sold in ages, considerably better than T6 or TT2. Even SFV which is somewhat of a dub sold 3 million.

Events have more players than ever, this is another record breaking year for total entrants at EVO. Online is more alive than ever, fighters are actually playable on PC. Zoomers don't remember the days of 2 guys on fightcade and that is all you get. The smallest games at events now have double the players of main events a decade ago.

This is the strongest fighters have been since the 90s, Yea Forums is just mad cause they are bad. You even know fighters are doing well, you've seen the evidence so many times. But you suck so much ass at them it is a challenge to your epic gamer status. When you aren't being carried by a team or are facing brain dead AI suddenly all the reeeee casual talk goes out the window. Just accept you need to git gud.

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I wonder if they got in trouble for making her look like Kenshin with tits.

No, it looks like For Honor.

I don't specifically hate BB if anything looking inward CF/CP actually started to find its own sort of soul but its basically dead now since BBCTB is holding the reigns. A mediocre fighter becomes a party fighter.

I want to say probably not, considering she was girl-kenshin for fucking forever. She was always distinct enough that she wasn't really aping off the character. Really, if they ever did anything to combat that it was making her hair pink after GG1, and that was about it.

They're literally the easiest they have ever been now

Part of it was SNK Heroines was very lucky to release in a dry spell of fightan game releases.

They set up really hard for a sequel at the end of CF so I assume we'll see another standalone BB eventually.

Both statements can be true simultaneously

Fighting games are not fun, they are soifun at best

I see why people scream mental illness. This dude looks like he's got a lot more going on than just being trans

Uhh they're totally normal, not sure what you mean bigot

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A) They are still mostly a console focused genre, and consoles are nowhere as strong as they were in the PS360 generation, when they were super popular.
B) Online for fighting games is notoriously awful, the connection sucks even in rollback games and the matchmaking is always terrible..
C) The community for the majority of games are bad.
I don't buy the "they are too hard" memes, because fighting games are the easiest than they ever been, and there are multiple other genres of games that are just as hard or harder to get into yet keep growing regularly.

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they scream mental illness because it's a man that tells everyone he's a woman. there are usual comorbid illnesses as well

That is literally all we know, they announce last EVO that they were working on a new GG. If we are lucky we might find out more in a day or two.

>remember Guilty Gear
>remember it had some nice art
>look up latest one
>some shitty 3d models
What happened, anons?

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BB is a great fighter marred by a retarded story and stupid characters. Also, most of the women in the game are hot trash outside of maybe Rachel, Tao, and possibly Bullet.

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50% greedy developers forgetting about the essence of the genre in pursuit of DLCs, casuals and e-sports tournament approval and 50% terrible community that is trash and elitist at the same time.
The technical parts like netcodes, matchmaking, balance and difficulty exist but are not the main issue, if the game is fun it grows regardless of how obtuse, difficult or bad the online is (see: rts, early dota).

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The fact that this mangled garbage of a phrase makes sense is fucking hilarious

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1v1 format means no anonymous teammates to blame your loses on